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====[[Help talk:Citation Style 1#RFC on publisher and location in cite journal]]====
====[[Help talk:Citation Style 1#RFC on publisher and location in cite journal]]====
{{Initiated|15:59, 27 November 2018 (UTC)}} Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at [[Help talk:Citation Style 1#RFC on publisher and location in cite journal]]? Thanks, [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 23:44, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
{{Initiated|15:59, 27 November 2018 (UTC)|done=y}} Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at [[Help talk:Citation Style 1#RFC on publisher and location in cite journal]]? Thanks, [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 23:44, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Cunard}} Thanks for listing this. I would like to add that the closer should be familiar with [[WP:BOTPOL]]. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 14:21, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
:{{ping|Cunard}} Thanks for listing this. I would like to add that the closer should be familiar with [[WP:BOTPOL]]. --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 14:21, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
:{{done}} —&nbsp;'''''[[User:Newslinger|<span style="color:#536267;">Newslinger</span>]]'''&nbsp;<small>[[User talk:Newslinger#top|<span style="color:#708090;">talk</span>]]</small>'' 07:14, 3 February 2019 (UTC)


====[[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: authority control]]====
====[[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: authority control]]====

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    Talk:Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party#RfC: Inclusion of expert opinions, views of pundits, activist groups, tweets, etc.

    (Initiated 2212 days ago on 17 September 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party#RfC: Inclusion of expert opinions, views of pundits, activist groups, tweets, etc.? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:52, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    • I'm going to have to come back to this one, because it, along with Racism in the UK Conservative Party and Islamophobia in the UK Conservative Party (2016–present) look to be a combination of WP:POVFORK and WP:OR (the article titles scream it to begin with), while the RFC feels like just the end result of bureaucratizing all the problems of a POVFORK/OR combo, too. Incidentally, the articles smell of sock / possibly-banned-users (at cursory inspection; they're also relatively recently created). I can dive deeper into it if truly nobody else is going to (and if I even have time), but this looks like it could be an unnecessary pain to sift through when there might be more overriding/fundamental issues. I dunno;I might just be crazy. Others with better knowledge of British politics should please feel free to deal with this. --slakr\ talk / 04:39, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • The issue of antisemitism in the Labour Party of the UK is a significant and controversial subject, so I would strongly suggest that the task of resolving this group of RfCs (some 18 of them!) should be assigned to a group of three administrators rather than simply "an experienced editor." Involved editors have already been making changes, such as this, to the article on the basis of perceived consensus. -The Gnome (talk) 12:19, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      I agree that because "the issue of antisemitism in the Labour Party of the UK is a significant and controversial subject" and because of the socking mentioned by slakr, it is likely better to have a panel of three admins close the RfC. Pinging Primefac (talk · contribs), who closed one of the RfCs, for your thoughts. Cunard (talk) 06:50, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      Yeah, I bailed on it because it was just such a massive task. I don't think we need a three-editor panel for all of them (some of the discussions like #10 are nearly unanimous) but it might be worthwhile for some of the more nuanced ones. Primefac (talk) 16:33, 9 December 2018 (UTC) (please ping on reply)[reply]
      Greetings, Primefac. I maintain that one and the same group of at least three admins handles this. It's not so much an issue of difficulty as much as of the need for a consistent and consolidated process. It's a rather large RfC. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 19:10, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Help talk:Citation Style 1#RFC on publisher and location in cite journal

    (Initiated 2140 days ago on 27 November 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Help talk:Citation Style 1#RFC on publisher and location in cite journal? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:44, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @Cunard: Thanks for listing this. I would like to add that the closer should be familiar with WP:BOTPOL. --Izno (talk) 14:21, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
     Done — Newslinger talk 07:14, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: authority control

    (Initiated 2131 days ago on 7 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: authority control? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Now in Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 148, it would be nice if someone could close this! Fram (talk) 07:45, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Fram: I'd be willing to close it, but I don't know what the procedure is if it has already been archived. Do I close it, and then post the result of the close? (Also I'm not an admin, so if don't think I should close a policy rfc that's fine) --DannyS712 (talk) 06:32, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I think unarchiving it would be best, so people at VPP at least get to see the closure. I personally have no objection against a non-admin closure, no idea how others feel about this in this case of course. Fram (talk) 09:18, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll give it a couple more days for any objections, then I'll draft a close and unarchive it. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:06, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    (Initiated 2129 days ago on 9 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Taiwan#RfC on English variety and date format in Taiwan-related articles? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Linda Sarsour#Request for comment: Teresa Shook criticism

    (Initiated 2123 days ago on 15 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Linda Sarsour#Request for comment: Teresa Shook criticism? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    The discussion was archived before it was closed, and is available at Talk:Linda Sarsour/Archive 15#Request for comment: Teresa Shook criticism (Non-administrator comment) --DannyS712 (talk) 06:27, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Linda Sarsour#Request for comment: ADL criticism

    (Initiated 2123 days ago on 15 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Linda Sarsour#Request for comment: ADL criticism? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    The discussion was archived before it was closed, and is available at Talk:Linda Sarsour/Archive 15#Request for comment: ADL criticism (Non-administrator comment) --DannyS712 (talk) 06:28, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/Archive 11#Request for comment: Periodic table article as three-peat TFA

    (Initiated 2122 days ago on 16 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/Archive 11#Request for comment: Periodic table article as three-peat TFA? There is related discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article#Result of recent RfC?. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#"Datebot" (limited scope)

    (Initiated 2121 days ago on 17 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#"Datebot" (limited scope)? Please close this RfC after 16 January 2019. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Has been archived at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 156#"Datebot" (limited_scope) without closure (Non-administrator comment) --DannyS712 (talk) 22:37, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Ritterkreuzträger Profiles series

    (Initiated 2117 days ago on 20 December 2018) This RfC and the one immediately below are part of an ongoing dispute regarding mentions in the Wehrmachtbericht as a military honor. See related discussions at MILHIST project: [1][2] –dlthewave ☎ 18:26, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Description of criminal charges against Trump associates

    (Initiated 2118 days ago on 20 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Description of criminal charges against Trump associates? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: Die Eichenlaubträger 1939–1945

    (Initiated 2117 days ago on 21 December 2018) See above for details. –dlthewave ☎ 18:26, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Jack Evans (Washington, D.C. politician)#RfC about whether to mention illegal parking habit

    (Initiated 2117 days ago on 21 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Jack Evans (Washington, D.C. politician)#RfC about whether to mention illegal parking habit? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Cunard This took way too long.  Done ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-☖ 22:41, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)#RfC on using US or U.S.

    (Initiated 2115 days ago on 23 December 2018) As this RfC approaches the 30 days mark and a lack of recent editor involvement, I believe the responses to date would require an uninvolved editor with closure experience to determine the appropriate outcome or extend the discussion. -- Whats new?(talk) 04:25, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    • Indeed the discussion had stopped, and yet the initiator, despite requesting closure above, has unilaterally reopened it past the 30-day standard. -- Netoholic @ 22:28, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • I did not unilaterally reopen the RfC, I just reinstated the template with new data stamp due to Legobot removing it before the discussion was formally closed, per instruction at WP:RFCEND. Please assume good faith and do not accuse me of starting a new parallel discussion -- Whats new?(talk) 22:31, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran#RfC -Which statement is better for the lede section of the MEK article?

    (Initiated 2114 days ago on 24 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess consensus on the RfC -Which statement is better for the lede section of the MEK article? discussion? Thanks. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 08:47, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     On hold This has only been open 17 days. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 03:50, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Matthias Corvinus#RfC: information about John Hunyadi in this article

    (Initiated 2114 days ago on 24 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Matthias Corvinus#RfC: information about John Hunyadi in this article? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Oswald Boelcke#Request for comment: Boelcke's legacy

    (Initiated 2113 days ago on 25 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Oswald Boelcke#Request for comment: Boelcke's legacy? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Death of Elaine Herzberg#rfc rename to uber death

    (Initiated 2112 days ago on 26 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Death of Elaine Herzberg#rfc rename to uber death? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Eva Bartlett#RfC

    (Initiated 2111 days ago on 27 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Eva Bartlett#RfC? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Indefinitely semiprotecting the refdesk

    (Initiated 2111 days ago on 27 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Indefinitely semiprotecting the refdesk? The discussion is listed at Template:Centralized discussion. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Tamika Mallory#RfC on anti-semitism in lede

    (Initiated 2110 days ago on 28 December 2018) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Tamika Mallory#RfC on anti-semitism in lede? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#2nd RfC: Do alternative medicine practitioners have a conflict of interest?

    (Initiated 2107 days ago on 30 December 2018) Seems clear there is no consensus for this proposal, though it has the occasional post from editors but mostly repetition of same arguments. There have been several complaints (see talk page) that the proposal is interfering with the function of the COI noticeboard (it should have been created on the talk page). Previous attempt to move it to the talk page was reverted with crude language from two users, one of which is the proposer. I suspect the proposer will only accept an admin closing this. Note that this is the 2nd RFC on the topic (the first was closed after 10 days in 2015), with no change of proposal, and IMO no change of arguments made or balance of opinion on the project. At the very least, could an admin move this to talk, to enable the COI noticeboard to function properly. -- Colin°Talk 08:45, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia talk:Article titles#RfC on naming guidelines when a person has plead the Alford plea, whether the parenthetical disambiguator "(criminal)" should be used

    (Initiated 2099 days ago on 7 January 2019) Please could an experienced closer close this. There are good arguments either side and editors have expressed that this should be closed. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 10:02, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Place new discussions concerning RfCs above this line

    Deletion discussions

    CFDs (general)

    (Initiated 2153 days ago on 15 November 2018) General comment about CFD closures (not sure if this is the right place to post but please move it to the correct place if you know a better place): there has been hardly any administrators' closures at WP:CFD for multiple weeks on a row now. Consequently, the backlog is growing rapidly. Would a few administrators tackle the pile together please? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 29#Category:Former populated places in Palestine (region)

    (Initiated 2139 days ago on 29 November 2018) Would an admin assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 29#Category:Former populated places in Palestine (region)? The discussion has been open for almost two months now. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:42, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 30#Category:Palestinian Christian communities

    (Initiated 2137 days ago on 30 November 2018) Would an admin assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 November 30#Category:Palestinian Christian communities? The discussion has been open for almost two months now. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:42, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Supercentenarian CFDs

    (Initiated 2131 days ago on 7 December 2018) At Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7, lot of these that have been open for a month. They probably won't be difficult closes, but this topic has a way of always being controversial. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:55, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Links to the supercentenarian CfDs:
    1. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:African-American supercentenarians
    2. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:Singaporean supercentenarians
    3. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:Spanish supercentenarians
    4. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:Nigerian supercentenarians
    5. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:Hungarian supercentenarians
    6. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:German supercentenarians
    7. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:Turkish supercentenarians
    8. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:Ukrainian supercentenarians
    9. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:Puerto Rican supercentenarians
    10. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 December 7#Category:Norwegian supercentenarians
    Cunard (talk) 01:36, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 6#Category:Autism quackery

    (Initiated 2100 days ago on 6 January 2019) Would an admin assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 6#Category:Autism quackery? The discussion was reopened per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2019 January 12#Category:Autism quackery. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:47, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Place new discussions concerning XfDs above this line

    Other types of closing requests

    Talk:Astronomical bodies in pseudoscience and the paranormal#Merger proposal

    (Initiated 2464 days ago on 8 January 2018) This is getting complicated. I think the article in question should probably be trashed, thus Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Astronomical_bodies_in_pseudoscience_and_the_paranormal, but User:Jehochman requested that we not have the discussion so that the merger discussion could end. I think there are bigger issues at play (we've discussed a bit on Jehochman's talk page), and he suggested I request a snow close for the merger discussion, which, as the AfD nominator, I would agree to though I'd like the discussion to continue for how to handle astronomical pseudoscience. In any case, in need of an admin to sort it out. jps (talk) 18:13, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    The discussion that is linked directly here was initiated by Richard3120 (talk · contribs) at 22:38, 8 January 2018 (UTC) - more than a year ago. Despite being described as a merge request (it begins with a link to Wikipedia:Proposed mergers#MERGE REQUESTS), it seems to indicate that another closely-related discussion took place elsewhere in December 2017 - but there is no link to that other discussion. It appears to have been intended to be no more than a notification of another discussion (in line with WP:MULTI), but the sentence "Discuss here." means that other people have used it as the actual discussion venue. @Richard3120: where was that earlier discussion held? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Redrose64: I'm not aware of another discussion having taken place. I just opened the discussion on the article's talk page at Talk:Astronomical bodies in pseudoscience and the paranormal#Merger proposal on 8 January 2018 as an uninvolved editor, per a request from the IP address 108.210.216.182 made at WP:PM on 23 December 2017. Richard3120 (talk) 14:31, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Amazon (company)#History of Amazon

    (Initiated 2197 days ago on 2 October 2018) Could an experienced editor please assess the consensus at Talk:Amazon (company)#History of Amazon? --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:33, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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