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== Politics ==
{{main|Politics of the Netherlands}}

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	This talkpage contains discussions about the article Hong Kong only. Past discussions can be retrieved within these archives. For discussion regarding Hong Kong-related articles and issues, please visit the discussion page of the HK wikipedians' notice board. Archives
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Addition of information on fire stations, etc.

User:BlueValour has tried to add into the article a new "public protection" section with the information, "There are 75 fire stations in Hong Kong" [1] and says that it is a "seed heading for police, ambulance etc to be added" [2]. I question the need for this section due to the article size, and have reverted the addition again. Kimchi.sg 20:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I will not press the new section until another editor can fill it out - I have added the information to the article body for now. The information should not be lost since it is from an AfD page. BlueValour 20:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

There should be a pointer to an existing article. Fire Services Department (Hong Kong) SchmuckyTheCat 22:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; now done. BlueValour 21:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on CD selection

Hey congratulations on a much deserved recognition. Great work, guys. --Ideogram 07:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Sports!

Looks like we need to add something in the Sports section. It's completely empty! Hong Qi Gong 15:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

The sports section was added by Petepetepete a couple days ago. Though I doubt whether it deserve a section in the main article since sports is not an important part of Hong Kong. In fact, to my opinion, not many Hong Kongers pay attention to local sports. --WinHunter ^(talk) 15:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, not many people in HK care about sports... unless you also count horseracing. Hahhah, but that's more like gambling. But there's certainly enough content to at least put up a seperate article and a little section here. Check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sport_in_Hong_Kong. Hong Qi Gong 17:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Sister City

I was looking at other Wiki pages on other international cities and I was wondering why Hong Kong does not have any sister cities in the world? Iman 23:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ng iman (talk • contribs) 23:30, July 13, 2006 (UTC) .

Thank you for pertinent question. I will find out. Hylas Chung 08:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps it's because Hong Kong does not define the entirety or any part of itself as city for administrative purposes. The Government usually keeps in touch with the national governments of foreign countries, rarely, though not never, with state, province and city governments. The two concelhos of Macao, however, did twin with other cities. — Instantnood 19:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I did hear on TV that Singapore is a sister city of Hong Kong. I do not think it is official. I also do not think that people like the idea. Hylas Chung 01:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that refering HK as Singapore's "sister city" (or vice versa) stemms more from economic and political reasons than really enforcing the spirituality of being "friendly". Iman 02:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ng iman (talk • contribs) 02:54, July 18, 2006 (UTC) .

That's certaining not town twinning.. Remember the Asiaweek cover story "The Tale of Two Cities" late 1998? — Instantnood 20:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

What's that "Tale of 2 Cities" of Asiaweek about? triumph 12:52pm, 30 July 2006 (Pacific Time)

Immigration Laws

I'm wondering what the HK's law for immigration? and how long do you have to stay in HK in order to be a permanent citizen?triumph2004 July 14, 2006 0:18am —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.105.243.92 (talk • contribs) 07:24, July 14, 2006 (UTC) .

You need seven years of permanent stay to be eligable for permanent residentship. You could try marrying into HK. You can also try to be an II (illegal imigrant) like my Grans:) Hylas Chung 08:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The Touch Base Policy for IIs was changed in the early 1980s. :-) — Instantnood 19:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah yes, I will have to remind my cousins:) Hylas Chung 09:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

General style adjustments

Hi. I have made general adjustments to Hong Kong related pages. If anyone sees anything too messy please correct me. Hylas Chung 09:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

What exactly you've done? Can you provide diff links or a link to your edit history? Thanks. — Instantnood 20:20, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Capital punishment in Hong Kong

As Hong Kong is currently governed by the "one country, two systems" rule which implies a 'western' legal system (based on former UK laws), does this mean that Hong Kong and Macau do not have death penalty? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 170.65.192.6 (talk • contribs) 11:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I can tell you with certainty that Hong Kong does not have death penalty and only have life sentence as the maximum sentence. For Macau, although I am not 100% sure, I don't think there is death sentence there either. (but it's law is based on Portuguese ones though) --WinHunter ^(talk) 13:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

The general Chinese government cannot overrule local HK courts and sentence HK citizens to death? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.142.205.192 (talk • contribs) 19:00, July 17, 2006 (UTC) .

Not generally, no. But the red authorities have claimed jurisdiction over a criminal when a crime, or part of a crime, was committed in red china. AFAIK, they have never had Hong Kong send someone over to them, only people arrested within the mainland. SchmuckyTheCat 20:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

No. Hong Kong is its own legal jurisdiction. — Instantnood 20:19, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes and like the individual states in the U.S.A and Australia the Chinese authorities need to extradite an individual to the mainland through the courts, as china has authority over foreign affairs and defence only. Enlil Ninlil 04:55, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Blocking all HK editors?

Hi. I tried to do some editing on the NLP (neurolinguistic programming) article. But there is an editor there who keeps calling me a sockpuppet. There were HK sockpuppets there some months ago who were banned. The usercheck did not show me to be sockpuppeting. The article is not being improved by that editor at all and it is easy to get it in shape if I am allowed. I want to know; is that editor allowed to block all Hong Kong editors? It looks like he is anti-HK to me. What is your thinking? Hylas Chung 07:47, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Just curious, but why are some HKers so fond of using words like "Anti-HK" for any conceivable reason? It is a rather strong word to use, and to slap it on a user who is just trying to resolve vandalism problems in that article?--Huaiwei 14:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Why are you having such impression? Who are the "some Hongkongers"? — Instantnood 21:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Because "some HKers" (or rather too many then I would have tought normal) are giving me this impression. Why are you curious to know who they are, unless you are one too?--Huaiwei 13:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Huaiwei. I think nobody is looking for arguments. There is a rule in NPOV that articles should not be Anglo-American. It is quite mildly statement. It should be much stronger. It is a bigger problem than is stated. The NLP article has an editor with that problem. There is no vandalism there at all. Just an editor who wants to claim I am a vandal just so he can promote his beliefs. I made good edits with good sources. So check the facts first. There is a big problem with that article. It is mostly because an editor there is making the most of the opportunity after socks were banned to push his point of view. Hylas Chung 05:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps this should be brought to WP:HKWNB. This talk page is for matters related to the Hong Kong article. — Instantnood 21:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Instantnood. Your suggestion is helpful. I did notice there are some blocked editors from outside HK though. So I reported the abuser to the Admin notice board instead. I hope they see the problem. It needs no more mention on this article. The Anglo-American issue is important though. Hylas Chung 05:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Removed statement on CfA rulings

This makes supposely final ruling of the judicial system to be not final, since any decision it make is subject to reversal by the NPC:SC by means of basic law interpretation.

This actually isn't true. An interpretation of the NPCSC is a legislative act rather than a judicial and does not change the status of cases already decided.

Roadrunner 22:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

I have quite a few pictures I've taken of Hong Kong and would be glad to add them to the article, but I'm not sure whether Wikipedia really wants pictures I guess and I haven't quite figured out how to add them. Basically, would it be appreciated or just take up space if I added one or two. I don't mind if it's inappropriate or something, that's why I'm asking :D. Omishark 03:09, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Official Language?

Isn't the official language of Hong Kong now English and Mandarin? Taipan198 04:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

The official languages are Cantonese, Mandarin, and English. They are the 兩文三語 of HK. --- Hong Qi Gong 04:26, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

The official language of Hong Kong should be English and Chinese. That means the government documents are written in English and Chinese. Cantonese and Mandarin are the spoken languages. 兩文三語 is the language policy in Hong Kong. --Kfsung 06:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I believe that in court, you can request English be used or you can request English translators. So English is also an "official" spoken language as well. Not to mention that the status means English is also taught in school, spoken as well as written. --- Hong Qi Gong 00:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Spoken Mandarin is not an official language of Hong Kong. Chinese and English are the only official languages. In Hong Kong, Chinese means Cantonese, in practice. ---anonymous 04 Dec 2006

What is this mystery place?

Would anybody know what this is? Maybe just some rich person's private island resort?

http://maps.google.com/?om=1&z=15&ll=20.702852,116.723943&spn=0.016339,0.023732&t=k

Astrophil 23:19, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Interesting find. Just a little bit off Hong Kong. My guess is military-like. Appears that some sections have been purposely grayboxed?Luke! 19:41, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Those grey parts were added after I looked! Did you notice the tennis courts? Astrophil 20:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

It seems to be part of the Pratas reef od economic in nature, see Pratas Islands. Enlil Ninlil 05:14, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that must be it, thank you, very interesting. Astrophil 20:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Hong Kong

I've revamped and given new direction to the WikiProject Hong Kong page. Feel free to invite more people to join. The more people the more effective. Be sure to also try and tag as many Hong Kong-related articles as possible with the WikiProject Hong Kong infobox found on the project page. Looking forward to working with you all. Luke! 19:38, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Too many sections + too long lead + weasel words

Some problems: "Culture" and "Religion" should be put into "Demographics" (as with other similar articles). "Climate" can go be trimmed then merged with "Geography" - not every 1000km square on Earth needs a specific mentioning of its climate. Most sections need to be trimmed into about 2/3 or less of its size - the article is far, far too long. Most sections has its own main articles so we don't need to put all the numbers and datas here. The lead is also very long. Half of the first paragraph deals with the naming (Hongkong, Hong Kong, blah) - definitely not necessary. The lead should be able to summarize the article and show the notability of Hong Kong, and is not a place to put all the "un-sectionized" materials into. There's also some weasel words in the article - e.g. "Hong Kong is China's richest region", "This is reflected in all aspects of the culture", "Due to the creative destruction so endemic to Hong Kong", "Hong Kong has never had its own military forces because it has never been a sovereign state, except voluntary auxiliary force like The Royal Hong Kong Regiment (The Volunteers)." A thorough cleanup is needed. Thanks. Aran|heru|nar 13:59, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you do it then. Thanks. Astrophil 18:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

yeah.

Hawaii

What's the point of the comparison to Hawaii's latitude in the climate section? I don't think a scattered archipelago in the middle of the ocean works well as a reference point; even Hong Kong itself would do better...--cloviz 02:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Hawaii somehow, indeed, could count as the best reference point in the altitude range besides Hong Kong. --Deryck C. 09:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

The Tropic of Cancer is enough reference: Hong Kong's location right in the south of it clearly explains its position barely between the tropics. Having another place as reference point is out of place and biased.--cloviz 15:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Version 1.0 release nom?

Is this page eligible for version 1.0 release nom? - jlao ⁰⁴ 11:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Minor Mistake

On 'Religion' on the last sentence it reads: "Interestingly, it is not uncommon for living room to have a Crucifix........" it should be "Interestingly, it is not uncommon for a living room to have a

Done.--cloviz 22:36, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Bruce Lee statue image

Just wondering: do we really want an animated GIF image of the Bruce Lee statue? I found it rather annoying as it changed while I was trying to read the article. Perhaps one high resolution image with a scaled down version for the article would make more sense than an GIF animation? Klepas 10:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I personally think that this image doesn't create any disturbance. Why did you say that? This is a pretty small image and it is under the category of "Culture" only. leungli 20:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

It's flickering and distracting to the reader. _dk 01:27, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I changed the photo. Please give me comment, thanks!!! leungli 06:22, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Panorama photo

The panorama photo of the Hong Kong Island skyline is indeed beautiful, but it pushes the main content down and leaves a lot of whitespace on the page. The layout of the version before this was added (from October 20, 2006) looked a lot better. I suggest moving the panorama image under the Architecture section. Does anyone agree? KeL 02:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I think you didn't fix the text size, did you? you had better fix it to "largest" and you can see there is no space left. For the older version of this topic (i.e. the one on 20th Oct, 2006) I personally don't prefer. I dunno, probably somebody else would like to have other opinions. leungli 03:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Welw move the picture, I believe it made the article more interesting and captivative near the introduction. Enlil Ninlil 02:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Weather Averages for Hong Kong

Would it be better to use the HKO's data instead of weather.com? (1961-1990 data, 1971-2000 data) Insanephantom 13:45, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I concur. I'll fix my chart later today --UCLARodent 20:04, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

laissez-faire

In the section on economics, I propose that the reference to Hong Kong's status as a "laissez-faire" capitalist society be removed. By definition, laissez-faire capitalism entails the total separation of state and economics, with a complete absence of government intervention. Though remarkably free, Hong Kong's government does intervene to some extent. -24.220.246.20