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August 19

How do you make columns?

I'd like to list articles I've improved/created on my user page in 3 columns across the page to save space. How do I do that? Thanks. Malke 2010 (talk) 01:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Malke 2010! Will [[Template:Columns-list#See also|]] help?···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 02:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you Vanischenu. I appreciate it! Malke 2010 (talk) 02:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

How do you the amount of edit reverts are in my account

I tried Help:Reverting but didn't see it there. Just wondering how many reverts are in my account, how do you do that anyways? EuroCarGT 00:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think there is an easy way to retrieve the number of reverts you made under that account. That is in part, because there is no easy definition of what constitutes a revert, much less one that a tool for parsing your contributions could understand. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 13:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Rescuing information and sources from a page that may be deleted

Dear editors: This article: Himanta Biswa Sarma is short on reliable sources. On the other hand, this one: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Himanta Biswa Sarma, has some, and also is more extensive. Unfortunately, it's an old Afc draft about the same subject. Before the old draft is deleted, it seems sensible to transfer any useful parts of the second article to the first. The instructions on merging articles assume that both articles have different titles, and that one can be made a redirect containing the original edits in its history for copyright reasons. Would it be acceptable to move the draft to "Himanta Biswa Sarma (politician)", then move the useful content to "Himanta Biswa Sarma" and make the other article into a redirect? Bill william compton has offered to work on the article, but neither of us is sure how to do this properly. —Anne Delong (talk) 03:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

One way to do it is to approve the draft to mainspace and then immediately tag both it and the existing article with "Merge" templates. Such a merge doesn't need to be discussed before doing it because content forks are not allowed by policy. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Roger, that's what I thought. The merge instructions say to make the secondary article into a redirect. Should the primary article be the one with (politician), or should that be the redirect and the primary article just have the name? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

@Anne Delong: Parenthetical qualifiers like "(politician)" are for disambiguation, not for direct information: compare Barack Obama to, say, Barack Obama (politician). So the (eventual) redirect should be the article with "(politician)" in its title. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

History of 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division in Vietnam

Your subordinate unit listing is incomplete. There was a "Delta" Company. I was a member of that company and we landed by C-130 aircraft at the air base in Danang on January 21st, 1965 as a "reinforced" company to guard the air base. Your history of our combat role is completely devoid of this and other facts. See also the "stories" of Marines from that unit on their website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 980richardm (talk • contribs) 04:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Even though it has over four million articles, Wikipedia is far from complete, but getting better all the time. If there are published sources such as news reports, military magazine articles or books in which authors have written about this unit, then some information about it can be added to the encyclopedia, along with references to these sources. I'm afraid that stories from the unit's members are not "independent", and can't be used as sources, although once an article or a section of an article is written about the unit, the web site can be added at the bottom in the "External links" section so that interested people can read the stories. —Anne Delong (talk) 05:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

It's not so much that they're not independent, as that they're not verifiable: if a reader in a month or a year or ten years reads the Wikipedia article, and wants to verify that it is correct, there will be no way to do so. (This is of course true for unsourced information, which is why we ask for all information to be sourced; but referencing an unverifiable or unreliable source is not more useful than unsourced information). --ColinFine (talk) 19:04, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Use of a user page

Dear editors: While looking through some old pages in Afc space, I found this one: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/INFO ON EXPLOIT GROUP which I believe should be deleted as an advertisement. However, the user has the same text on a talk page, User talk:Exploitgroup. Should it also be deleted? —Anne Delong (talk) 05:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, Speedy-G11 both pages and give the user a warning per WP:SPAMNAME too. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Blocked as a spam username, AFC page deleted. Bencherlite^Talk 12:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. That's one more "abandoned draft" dealt with. 976 to go... —Anne Delong (talk) 17:42, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Need help in image replacement

Hi Guys,

There is an article over here on a firm called 'Ashghal' here is the link to that article Ashghal

Well, now the logo on the image has to be replaced on that article since the branding guideline of the Company has changed and so has their logo. Here is the link to that website where you can check out the new logo.. http://www.ashghal.gov.qa/en/pages/default.aspx

I cannot replace the image since I do not have a confirmed account and in order to have that I need to have done at least 10 edits.

Since the replacement of the image needs to be done ASAP, I will appreciate if I can have an assistance from those who have got a confirmed account.

I can provide the High-res image of the new logo based on request.

I will be glad having a prompt response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 06:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I will see what I can do.--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I uploaded the new one. All the sizes on the net are small but it may be large enough for the article info box. If not just ask back at this help desk or email it to photosubmission@wikimedia.org.--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

@Canoe1967 Thank you. I am glad to have your help in this regard. I have already emailed you the High-res image. Do let me know if that will suffice, and if it does then what will be the time margin required to replace the image.

They can take a few days sometimes. Can you put it on the net somewhere for me to get? http://www.picatom.com/ and other sites are easy to upload to. Remember the code to delete it. I use Dropbox (service) but it takes a while to set up.--Canoe1967 (talk) 08:56, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

@Canoe1967 Hi. Well actually I emailed you the High- res image. However, I have also uploaded the image on a website you recommended. Here is the link http://www.picatom.com/2a/Logo-162.html I noticed that the logo in the info box has been replaced. Thanks a lot for it. Just a small query. why it takes certain number of days for the High- Res image to be published? Can you provide me an approximate number of days required needed so I can accordingly inform the concerned people. Appreciate having your response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 10:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Will the hi-res image be released under a license that allows it to be used by anyone completely freely? If not, it probably won't be allowed under Wikipedia's fair-use rules. Rojomoke (talk) 12:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

The biggest one on the net was only 132x75. We can reduce any version larger than 300px wide and then delete the revisions. The OTRS may do that before upload.--Canoe1967 (talk) 13:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I do want to point out to the original poster that language like "the replacement of the image needs to be done ASAP" and "Can you provide me an approximate number of days required needed so I can accordingly inform the concerned people" imply a false sense of entitlement. We are all volunteers here, operating under no deadline; and your corporate priorities do not obligate anybody here working on something else to drop what they are doing and rush to oblige, although several of our volunteers have in fact gone considerably out of their way to be of help here. A sense of perspective is in order. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:33, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

@Orangemike I apologise if the request has been in any appeared to be inconsiderable as I did not intend to communicate that way. I respect your efforts in contributing to the articles and I assure that my communication will not have such tone.

@Canoe1967 I like to point out something about the logo that there has been an error on the image which is currently used. The actual logo has a line between the English and Arabic text which is missing from the one currently used... the new logo can be downloaded through this link. http://www.picatom.com/2a/Logo2-17.html I will appreciate if this logo can be replaced. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 08:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

hi i am not understanding

i am not understanding trachtenberg division system so please explain that breifly as like mutiplication method — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.139.221.155 (talk) 07:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Does Trachtenberg system help?--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

If not, you should ask at The Maths Reference Desk, not here. This Help Desk is for assistance in writing Wikipedia articles. Rojomoke (talk) 12:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

referencing problems

can anyone tell me how to reference a 'citation needed' tag. i have tried to reference it following the 'reference for beginners'but it comes up on the page 'citation error' in red and it won't let me change it. i have the reference article all ready to go but it won't reference it in the list at the bottom of page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neilc123 (talk • contribs) 07:49, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

hi, i am trying to reference a 'citation needed' tag on 'football fan sub-culture'. i have the article for the reference and have tried to go through the 'reference for beginners' video but it won't actually list the article on the reference list. instead it just come up with 'citation error' in red at the end of the reference. can anyone help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neilc123 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

The url was missing.

• <ref name="My Cat">{{Citation|year= |title= |publisher= |publication-place= |page= |url= |accessdate= }}</ref>

This will use the above ref again:

• <ref name="My Cat"/>

--Canoe1967 (talk) 08:43, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

How to make my orphan article become not orphan?

What are the steps in making an article become non-orphan? Can you list the steps in detail please? Thank you so much I greatly appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LindaYates13 (talk • contribs) 08:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You need to link it in other articles. If your article is Willie Mays then put that blue link in baseball articles. Then they can find your Willy Mays article from the baseball ones. Try not to put it in unrelated articles or spam articles.--Canoe1967 (talk) 09:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Hotcat n/a ?

Hotcat no longer appears to work for me; I use IE8 and have checked my preferences, any ideas ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 09:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You're not the only one. Dismas|^(talk) 09:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Toggling "Compatability View" fixed it ! Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 11:17, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Looking for an erased phrase in Timeline of World War II (1941)

Hello Good Helpers ! There was a phrase in that article , about Stalin broadcasting on the 3rd of July his second radio speech ever, but that phrase has been erased (& replaced by "Stalin announces a "scorched earth policy") , & I can't find it back. Can you ? Thanks so much beforehand for your help Arapaima (talk) 09:52, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I found the speech. Need another source showing which one it was.--Canoe1967 (talk) 12:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Canoe1967, go on taking care Arapaima (talk) 04:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Wrong Information

Dear Wiki,

I'm one of Wiki's fan over the year, especially when I try to find something new, Wiki is always my number 1 reference.

Lately, something is bothering me, because I see my Wiki's company page is filled with wrong information. Every time, I try to change and give right information, someone is changing again in a brief of time. This happens over and over again.

I know the information is wrong, since I work there for quite a long time, and I have company identity and documents to prove it. And not in my attention to make that page as an promotional page. It is just weird to see wrong information about your company and it will mislead everyone that read it.

Is there any way that I can give the right information and protect it, others than change it over and over again ?

Thank you very much Wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adjimantoro (talk • contribs) 09:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

So far your only two edits with this account are here at the Help Desk, so I can't tell what page you're referring to. You don't mention whether you provided reliable sources for the facts that you updated/changed. Without references and sources, we can't just take your word for it. It would be best if you posted to the article's talk page (see the top left of the article page where it says "talk") with not only your updated info but also where someone might verify that information. The reason I suggest that you post on the talk page instead of making the edits yourself is due to your conflict of interest. Dismas|^(talk) 10:03, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

How to tackle a conflict of interest?

A new user with the very unsubtle name NEC Australia has just edited the article Ultranet, in good faith but with obvious commercial intent. I'm not au fait enough with our templates and stuff to know how to formally but politely tell this user they need to change their approach.

Can someone with greater knowledge in this area please either sort this out, or point me at how I can best do it? (Don't make it complicated for me. I don't have time to learn new stuff right now.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HiLo48 (talk • contribs) 10:13, 19 August 2013‎ (UTC)

Well, it's a bit too late now. They've been blocked. And I know you don't have time for much new stuff but here's a quick tip. If you put their username in curly braces like so: {{user|NEC Australia}}, then it produces links to their user page, talk page, and contribs like so: NEC Australia (talk · contribs). Dismas|^(talk) 10:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Setting up page.

I am not sure that i have started correctly, and formatting everything in the correct way. Also my surname Hillary has appeared with a small h, and I can't alter it. Regards, Moray. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moray hillary (talk • contribs) 10:32, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You seem to be trying to use your user page as an article. The purpose of a user page can be seen at Wikipedia:User pages, and in particular the section WP:FAKEARTICLE. In any case, you should not be trying to write an article about yourself, see Wikipedia:Autobiography and WP:conflict of interest. For changing your user name to include a capital letter for your surname, see Wikipedia:Changing username. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I have moved the user page content to a user sandbox at User:Moray hillary/Sandbox.--ukexpat (talk) 13:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Need new logo on 'UAS Laboratories' page

THe new logo can be found on uaslabs.com's current page - it is only a splash page but that one is correct.

Thanks,

Matthew (from UAS Labs) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.178.65 (talk) 14:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

 Done Insulam Simia (talk) 16:04, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Interlink

In the past I used to interlink my pages very easily. But now whenever I try to interlink a page what I get is an unexpected error message (both here and in wikidata) . Any suggestions ? Thanks. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You recently added a link to 10th government of Turkey. It works correctly for me. Maproom (talk) 15:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I assumed that the OP was talking about inter-wiki links, hence the mention of Wikidata? - David Biddulph (talk) 15:56, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I have created a Wikidata entry for 10th government of Turkey at d:Q14623493.--ukexpat (talk) 16:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Account update

How does one regain access to their previous account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.212.151.98 (talk) 16:36, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

What is the username? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:09, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Ashmore Group logo

Hi I work for Ashmore Group adn I have left a message about changing/updating our logo but havent recieved a reply yet. How can i send you/upload our new logo please?

thanks Kate Whittaker Kate Whittaker (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Do you have a link to it, where I can download the image then upload it? After I've uploaded it, see WP:CONSENT, where you can get the copyright owner in your company of the logo to give us copyright permission to use the logo, rather than us using fair use. Thanks, Insulam Simia (talk) 16:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Insulam Simia very kindly replied to my message but I cannot work out how to reply. I am sorry but I am a very new user. I am sure it must be something obvious. Kate Kate Whittaker (talk) 17:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Just reply by clicking 'edit source' which is located on the section heading (which is above) at the right (also indent your message by placing two colons before your message) . Insulam Simia (talk) 17:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I managed to replace the logo.--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you both so much! It hasn't updated yet - does ittake a little while? Kate Whittaker (talk) 08:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

You are very welcome. You may need to refresh your browser. In Windows Explorer it is a circle arrow up at the top left beside the url address. I see it fine so others should as well.--Canoe1967 (talk) 08:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Need help with issues on an article

I am trying to address the two issue alerts that appear at the top of the page I manage for one of our company's owners: Jennifer Borg

After reading through the requirements and instructions and adding more citations to the page, these alerts still appear.

Can you please advise what further steps I need to take to satisfy the requirements?

Alerts that appear at the top of the page:

This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. (September 2012)

The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies. (September 2012)

Thank you so much for any help you can offer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizowen (talk • contribs) 17:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

One thing which you will need to address is the difference between external links and references. We do not include external links within the body of the article. You also need to read, if you haven't done so already, the guidance on editing where you have a conflict of interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Liz, but you are under a misapprehension. You do not manage any page in Wikipedia (and nor does anybody else). As somebody with a conflict of interest you are a less appropriate person to edit that article than most user, not a more appropriate one. As to your specific question, warnings like that are almost completely manual: a human editor added them, and a human editor can remove them. This could be you, if you are sure the issues have been addressed; but because of your conflict of interest, it would be a bad idea for you to do so. What is needed is solid, substantial discussion of the subject in reliable sources (such as newspapers or books independent of the subject), and you could contribute powerfully to the article by identifying these, and posting them on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 19:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

John grant (footballer)

I'm here to report redalert92 who is responsible-editing my profile with out my authority to do so, I am john grant and I'm able to edit my own profile with out his in put — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.149.6 (talk) 17:27, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You cannot just 'command' users to stop editing your page. Indeed, he is certainly in the wrong, as it is pretty obvious why you are removing it, but still. Also please see WP:COI. Insulam Simia (talk) 17:32, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I assume that you are referring to the article John Grant (English footballer)? That is an article in an encyclopedia, not a profile on a social media site, and you need to understand that, even if you are the subject of the article, you do not own the article, and in fact you need to be very careful as to whether you ought to be editing it at all. You need to read the guidance on conflict of interest. The other editor does not need your authority to edit the article, providing that the material which he includes is supported by references to published reliable sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC) ‎ Thanks to Anne Delong for pointing out my typo in omitting the significant word "not" from my reply. Corrected now. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:05, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Rescuing article history of a page that's being reused

Dear editors: This article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jeff Halevy (2) has the edit history for this article Jeff Halevy (Personal trainer), which was cut and pasted by a different user to mainspace and then improved. For copyright reasons, the edit histories of the two pages should be merged. However, the user has made one edit changing the first page into an article about a Michael Jackson recording. This really should have been done in a sandbox or user page. Is there any way to create such a page and move the one Michael Jackson edit there, while retaining the name of the editor with it, so that the rest of the page history can me merged with the mainspace article? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:54, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

There isn't enough of the Michael Jackson edit to be worth saving, so that should just be reverted as irrelevant to the page that it's on. If there's a tangle to be sorted out with the other material, Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen is the place to report it. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Is it copyright to copy word by word text from a source such as a book?

Just say for example "Elvis was known as the King" you put in an article and the cited book said "Elvis was known as the King" is this considered copyright or are you allowed to copy word by word text from the book or whatever you use as a source?--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 18:46, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You'll find useful advice at Wikipedia:Plagiarism. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:49, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

First of all, copyright is the right of the author to restrict copying by others. If someone who does not have permission from the author copies in a way that violates the copyright law, that is a copyright violation.

An author can only restrict copying, not independent recreation. So if someone writes "Elvis was known as the King" without knowing someone wrote that first in a book, it is not a copyright violation.

Then there is fair use. It is allowed to copy a small amount of text from a book if you indicate it is a quote and give an inline citation to the book it is copied from.

You can use as much information as you want from a book if you paraphrase it in your own words. Inevitably a few words in the paraphrased version will be in the same order as in the original; there is no hard-and-fast rule about how many words in a row can be the same as in the original before it would be a copyright violation. If your paraphrase were two short sentences, one of which was "Elvis was known as the King", and you didn't put it in quotation marks, that would be considered plagiarism. If your paraphrase were five paragraphs long, and the overall impression was it was substantially different from the book, having six words in a row that match the book might be OK, especially if the same sentence appears in several other books you consulted. Also, even if you paraphrase it, you should include an inline citation to the original to avoid plagiarism. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I edited Nazi_propaganda#Radio and most of if not all of it is exactly what it says in the book so I should alter it a bit or not?

Before Hitler came to power, he rarely used the radio as a form of speaking to the audiences, and then only in part nor did any non-party newspapers carry his speeches.[90] However, after 1933 his speeches became major events for the Germans, they were broadcast in full over the national radio, printed in every newspaper in Germany, shown in the weekly newsreels and reprinted in huge editions in books and pamphlets.[90] It became so widely spoken to the masses that even restaurants and pubs were expected to turn their radios on when Hitler spoke and some cities even erected loud public speakers so passersby could hear his speeches.[90] The extent after Hitler came to power that Nazi propaganda portrayed his speeches was that the key passages from his speeches appeared in the weekly posters with inspiring quotations and hung all over Germany by the hundreds of thousands.[90]

I didn't know you could not copy the exact words from the book, should I alter this then into my own words to avoid violation?--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 19:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)::In general, as I understand it, you most definitely may not copy into Wikipedia text (or images or sounds) from any source that is in copyright. That would constitute a copyright violation, which since it puts Wikipedia on the wrong side of the law is severely prohibited. In some circumstances it may be OK to quote, with quotation marks and full identification of the source, limited amounts of text from copyright sources. Older works such as books whose copyright has expired can be copied freely; but to be honest it isn't often useful to do so. If you think you've come across copying of the kind you mention, you should tell someone about it. If you need more advice, please ask. There are experts on this topic (of which I am most definitely not one) who will be able to answer any question. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:10, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Please see wp:PARAPHRASE LeadSongDog come howl! 19:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Reply to Andrew Dorsons: I believe your best course would be to remove everything you added, and then add it back, bit by bit, using your own words and checking as you go along that they are not the same as the words in the book. HTH, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I will do that now and understand it more clearly, thanks very much!--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 19:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Can I use this picture or not, I'm a little confused?

I want to use this photo in particular and was wondering if its okay to use can anybody help me and confirm?

http://www.dhm.de/lemo/objekte/pict/625_2/index.html

It is taken from http://www.dhm.de/lemo/html/nazi/innenpolitik/rassenpolitik/

It is also used on this website http://wizard.webquests.ch/schulens.html?page=10346 and links to ^, is it okay to use this picture??--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 18:51, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, the sources seems to be the DHM, Deutsches Historisches Museum, and it says Copyright DHM on the page. Unless this picture is illustrating something that there's no free equivalent for, I wouldn't use it. What were you planning to use the image for? Howicus (talk) 18:58, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I was going to use it in Themes_in_Nazi_propaganda#Racial_pride and because the children were taught this in the schools.--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 19:08, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, since that's a fairly general topic, there's probably an alternative public domain or compatibly licensed image out there, so I'd recommend against using that one. Howicus (talk) 19:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I've actually tried looking, could you give me any directions to where I can could find the image I've tried Wikipedia Commons to no luck. :(! I think it would look best suited in that bit since it was a key and essential thing and displays it very accurately.--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 19:29, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I've tried looking around as well on Flickr but cannot find it at all, the rassenkunde image of the woman to the board seems difficult to find.--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 20:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

The photograph is from 1943, would this even still be copyrighted? (Germany is 25 years from the date of publication) In any case, as a historical photograph I would think fair use would be a fairly easy bar to cross. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Gaijin42, how do I go about using this image then because I have looked at images to use on "racial pride" towards the Nazi racial biology bit 'racial pride' on Nazi themes and this picture looks very accurate and good to use for this exact bit, how do I go about putting this onto Wikipedia?

Also, could you look at my talk page User_talk:Andrew_Dorsons and tell me if I have done something wrong because some user has went out of their way to keep reverting an image I used that I allegedly used it as non-free image usage policy but on their talk page their have done this several times to other users and their have said that their will report me for personal attack but I am new on here so don't know if I have broke any rules on here???--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 21:02, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I believe copyright in Germany is life +70 years - at least that is what our article here says. I can't immediately find a date of death for Liselotte Orgel-Köhne, but she published a book in 1980. She could well be still alive. I don't myself think you have much chance of constructing a fair-use rationale for that image, but I'm no expert. You could perhaps try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Images and Media/Non-free. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Unless someone from the DHM took the picture or the photographer gave copyright to DHM, the claim of copyright that DHM makes is unenforceable — it appears that they simply scanned it. That's completely different from the photographer's rights, which are definitely enforceable, and it's definitely still under copyright in any life+70 country. Nyttend (talk) 23:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Some of the replies are confusing and contradicting each other. So am I not able to use this photo under any circumstances for the purpose of the Themes of Nazi propaganda under their "racial pride" since essentially this photo demonstrates quite clearly how the youth were taught from a very young age to understand the racial differences among the peoples (i.e Germans and Jews).--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 09:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

That is not the reason you are not allowed to use it. As has been explained above, you are not allowed to use it because the owner of the copyright has not granted permission for its use. Maproom (talk) 10:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

But someone earlier on said since its a historical photograph it could easily pass for fair use?--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 10:13, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it is possible that person could be mistaken. On Wikipedia, it is actually relatively hard to meet the requirements of fair use. There is some more information about this at WP:NFCC. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:23, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

It's also worth noting that Wikipedia's non-free use criteria are stricter than "fair use" as that term is used in copyright law.--ukexpat (talk) 16:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

So the conclusion is I cannot use this picture under any circumstances, correct?--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 17:27, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Werieth gave you a link to WP:NFCC#8 which says "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Your use of this photo may be justified because it doesn't merely show that children were indoctrinated in schools but shows specifically how they were taught to classify people by race. While you could write some text about how children were shown collections of photos of people, I feeel that this picture shows it in a way that will be more readily understandable. —rybec 18:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Rybec, I've looked on the Wikipedia Commons for "Nazi propaganda" and cannot find any exclusive to the "racial pride" apart from the Race and Soul book which was removed for Non-free content, I found this picture of the woman pointing towards the board out of luck essentially and have found that for "racial pride" it would help a readers understanding much better. In the Nazi themes propaganda page there is already " the NSLB stressed that as early as primary schools Germans have to work on only the Nordic racial element of the German Volk (people) again and again and have to contrast this with the racial differences that foreign peoples such as the Jews represent." and "Children in schools through textbooks, posters and films the differences between Germans and Jews, it showed the Germans being the Aryan master race and the Jews were simply untrustworthy, parasitic and inferior subhumans (Untermenschen)." - this does cover the showing of the differences for the picture. Also when you said "I feeel that this picture shows it in a way that will be more readily understandable." where you saying that is how you feel or me?--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 21:06, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

You can put that if you like (minus my typo?) but I wasn't presuming to express your opinion, just my own. All that's needed is a non-free use rationale for that photo as used in that article, any explanation of why it meets WP:NFCC#8 and isn't merely decoration. —rybec 22:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Well my opinion is that it will help the reader understand that section of the article more clearer by showing them exactly how the youth were taught and it is mentioned in that section about biology schools taking place in which the youth had to know and understand the differences between Germans (and other Aryans) and Jews on such things as simply the alleged differences in the physical looks between the two. Rybec, how do I go about adding this and where do I add this bit of information as it can be made as a non-free and fit the criteria asked.--Andrew Dorsons (talk) 10:39, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

@Andrew Dorsons: The experts for your questions are at this page: WP:MCQ. They can certainly tell you how to upload the picture to the English Wikipedia (not to Commons; it cannot accept "fair use" images), and can tell you whether "fair use" is in fact reasonable in this case. Be sure to mention the discussion here, at WP:HD#Can I use this picture or not, I'm a little confused? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 05:14, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Latina

I heard so many things from anita kelvin, about DR obosianzen from <redacted> and every story about him has been so great. so here is my story me and the father of my son has been off and on for 3 years its been a very stressful relationship. he cheated on me and I was very hurt, it was miserable for me so in returned I cheated because I wanted him to feel the pain but he never cares so we went apart, so he went back to his ex.i wanted him to leave her and let us come back together, I love him so much and I just want him to feel the same way i feel for him, luckly for me DR obosianzen was the one who brought my lover back to me, he is a good spell caster. his contact address is <redacted> .you can still save your marriage if u really love your husband or your wife— Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.203.69.3 (talk) 19:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

This IP address is from Nigeria. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

My name is Mrs Khatooum sheik from Saudi Arabia.

Am the lady you helped two months ago 14th of June -2013 who was crying for poverty and divorced from my husband, Doctor SAMBA i have forwarded this testimony from the bottom of my heart , since you helped me i have never turn back in poverty again , i contacted you after being divorced from my husband who left me when i was 6 months pregnant and i had to borrow $750 the price you asked me to send for the items that was require by the spirit . When it took long time to finish the process i thought you have scammed me as the previous spell caster the one i contacted before , i prayed to allah to give me a strong heart of believing in you and i patiently waited until i saw unbelievable miracle from you with amount of money from your spiritual ancestors, may your ancestors be praise believe me whose so ever that is reading my testimony , since then i have never suffered again, and my husband come back to me i can now feed 2 full masjid is in my area food; a day which i never believe that i can do it before .DR SAMBA for that. may allah bless you again and again Insha’Allah . Me and my husband are planning to come and visit you next year,insh a-allah . oh i forgot to mention that i invested mostly in properties and din. Insah allah As you told me to do, you also can contact him on his email address VIA, <redacted>— Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.203.69.3 (talk) 19:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

This IP address is from Nigeria. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:51, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

How to add icons to portals

I forgot how to add images to portals, and I want to add an icon for Portal:New Caledonia in place of the puzzle icon. What do I need to do?

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 20:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

@WhisperToMe: I think you create Template:Portal/Images/New caledonia, copying the format of the other subpages listed at Template:Portal/Images. ~HueSatLum 00:49, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! WhisperToMe (talk) 02:23, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Tracing names

Heading added by ColinFine (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

im looking for help tracing two names the first one is Spendlove and the orther Vicount i would love to know where these names come from and what they mean they are two boys names i was told they could be German but cant find anything on them at all can you help please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.73.24 (talk) 21:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

We don't seem to have articles on these names, though we have one about the title viscount (note the spelling). You could try posting your question at the reference desk. This page is for help about editing Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

A photo with NO copyright problems has been removed; please help

This inquiry involves the page Nicholas Johnson. The photo of myself which I uploaded there yesterday [August 18]: file:Nicholas Johnson.jpg -- has now been removed.

I am the Nicholas Johnson in the photo, and the Nicholas Johnson to whom the Wikipedia page refers.

This photo does not, and could not, have any associated copyright problems.

I am Nicholas Johnson. The photo is of me. I possess the picture. It was not taken from any publication or online source. Thus, as I explained on the forms yesterday, any necessary "copyright" (or "license") for this purpose belongs to me. It was taken by a family member (my sister-in-law) with the understanding I could use it for any purpose I wished. It was not the work of a professional photographer nor done in a photo studio; it was not done by a photographer for a newspaper or magazine. She took the picture with the intention of giving it to me, which she did; she sent it to me; she had no other purpose, nor use for it. She knows I have it on my hard drive. She knows, and approves, that it is the picture I use on my blog, http://FromDC2Iowa.blogspot.com, on the back covers of my books (see, e.g., http://www.amazon.com/Nicholas-Johnson/e/B00B138MYQ), and on a Facebook page, https://www.facebook.com/NicholasJohnsonIowa?ref=hl Indeed, she is flattered I have chosen to use it for these purposes. I would like to use it on my Wikipedia page as well -- and as of yesterday had done so, until it was removed.

I really don't know what more I can provide to convince you there is no copyright problem here. Surely there are other instances in which those who have Wikipedia entries about them have used family photos on their pages. Although I would acknowledge that it is hard to know how to provide this kind of information about a source given the options on your forms.

So why is this coming up now? Because I noticed yesterday that when one searches Google for "Nicholas Johnson," not only are the first five or so hits sites of mine, but Google now provides, in the right hand column, additional information about me, along with a picture, however, of someone who is NOT me. When I saw that most of that information came from Wikipedia, I went to my Wikipedia page and discovered that it had no photo -- a logical explanation for why Google, relying on the Wikipedia page, might have ended up with a picture of some other Nicholas Johnson. Well, I thought, I should upload to Wikipedia an actual picture of me so that so long as Google is inserting that information on the search page they would at least know what picture to use.

So that's the story of the photo, why it does not involve any violation of Wikipedia's standards, and why it came to be uploaded.

Please let me know how we can proceed to get it uploaded once again -- without, hopefully, going through the same process I did yesterday and that is unlikely to be any more successful if I do the same thing over again.

Thank you.

Nicholas Johnson Editor52 (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2013 (UTC) Editor52 (talk) 22:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Nicholas. Your photo was deleted as a copyright violation, either in error (Wikipedia is run by volunteers) or because you did not give enough information when you uploaded it, so that it had the appearance of being in violation of copyright. I will leave a note for the person that deleted it and perhaps they will undelete it. Thanks. Formerip (talk) 22:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

• To convince us, do one of the following, preferably both: a) go to your bolg and, immediately below the image in question, add a note to say that the image is Creative Commons licensed {{cc-by-3.0}} with a link to the licence details or b) upload - to the Commons - the original image raw image off your sister-in-law's camera. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:22, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

RHaworth: Thank you very much for your help. I have followed your suggestion, and done what you describe as "a" (including, of course, the link, as you request). ("B" looked like it would dump me right back in the soup.) I will check back on my Wikipedia page from time to time to see if the photo reappears -- and then see if Google is able to pick it up! -Nicholas Johnson Editor52 (talk) 00:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Nyttend has taken care of it. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Uploading a photograph

I have created an entry for a writer, and she sent me her photo to upload. This photo is also available publicly on her website. I uploaded it by loading first on Wikipedia commons . After a couple of months, the photo disappeared. I assume it was removed due to copyright? I uploaded it again, this time not thru Wikipedia commons, and now I only see the name of the file but no photo! (its for an entry shanta acharya)-Please can someone help as I don't have the time and expertise to be trying to sort this out. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by MDash100 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

You hadn't changed the article to call up the file name of the newly uploaded photo; it was still calling up the old file name. I've changed that for you. You do, however, mention copyright, and I fear that your new photo may disappear, as you have claimed that it is public domain but given no justification for that claim, and you say it's from the author's website, which says: "... Except as noted above, no part of this website is to be reproduced, stored in any sort of retrieval system or transmitted in any form or by any means, without the prior written permission of the relevant copyright holder." - David Biddulph (talk) 22:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

and what David didn't say is that the copyright holder telling you that you have permission to upload it on Wikipedia is not enough in two ways: first, we have no way of knowing who you are and what she has said to you; and second, permission to use on Wikipedia is not enough. Please see WP:Donating copyright materials for what would be needed. --ColinFine (talk) 15:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I have moved the file to File:Shanta Acharya.jpg which is a more descriptive and accurate name. But it will be deleted without the appropriate permission.--ukexpat (talk) 16:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

How to publish an article?

I have an article developed in the sand box, have made 11 edits and the process has involved more than 4 days.

I can not find a place to upload the srticle HTML created in the sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bertmbc (talk • contribs) 23:21, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

The text you have in your sandbox at User:Bertmbc/sandbox is not at all suitable for a Wikipedia article as it stands now. I've left a welcome message on your talk page which might help explain why and give you some help as far as what direction you need to go right now. Dismas|^(talk) 23:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Rather than uploading anything, I think you need to use the procedure described at WP:MOVE. Good luck! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Having said that, User:Bertmbc/sandbox is not a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article. Maybe it should go on WikiSource instead? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:45, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

August 20

Still not added

Hi Guys, I see my page Kristina Hughes still has not been added.

Can you assist me? I'd love to update it.

Thanks, ~Kristina — Preceding unsigned comment added by KristinaHughes (talk • contribs) 00:16, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Please see WP:AUTO and read Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kristina_Hughes for why the article hasn't been created. Writing an article about yourself is never a good idea. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

James Lafferty

Hello I was wondering if you could post a picture of James Lafferty. Please and Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.144.181 (talk) 00:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:First_steps That should help. Commons is the repository for most of our pictures.--Canoe1967 (talk) 09:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

How do I remove my wikipedia account?

How do I remove my wikipedia account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueScreen (talk • contribs) 02:16, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

You can't remove it, but you can flag the account as retired, or take the right to vanish. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

"USER:SA Brit/sandbox"

Hi, I was helping my friend make an entry on Wiki, and neither of us can figure out how to name it properly. The title of the article comes up as "USER:SA Brit/sandbox" and this is clearly not the intended title. We designed it to be called "International Clinics in Beijing." Thanks for any help you can provide on this matter, Z — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiser2001 (talk • contribs) 03:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

When you think that the draft is fit to be submitted for review, you can put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the article, and then someone will probably move it first to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/International clinics in Beijing, & then (if acceptable) to International clinics in Beijing. Note that we use sentence case, not title case, so it would be International clinics in Beijing, not International Clinics in Beijing. The same applies to section headings, so (for example) you should change "Prominent International Clinics and Hospitals in Beijing" to "Prominent international clinics and hospitals in Beijing"; this is covered in the WP:Manual of Style. Another point which you ought to address is that your references are currently bare urls, or even incomplete urls such as www.imcclinics.com; you ought to expand them with additional information, the easiest way being the use of {{cite web}}, perhaps through the referencing toolbar, see Help:Introduction to referencing/3. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:30, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

@SA Brit and Wiser2001: I suggest taking a look at WP:NOT - specifically, that Wikipedia isn't a directory, a guide, or a dictionary. In this case, unless there are newspaper and magazine articles about international clinics in China in general (so that the term is defensible), and similarly articles about these particular clinics, you're quite unlikely to have this article approved; and if you create it yourself, to have it survive very long. (About a thousand articles are deleted from Wikipedia every day, and that doesn't count articles that don't make it out of sandboxes and WP:Articles for creation.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

UPDATING AN ARTICLE ON ME

Hello. May I call your attention to an article about me on Wikipedia:

Thomas Sheehan

The CV at the end of the article is long out of date. Can you advise me on how the current version of my CV could be substituted for the old one?

Thank you. 2605:A601:111:401:E151:990C:C3B8:3EA3 (talk) 05:32, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for not updating the article yourself – Wikipedia disapproves of people making changes to articles about themselves. The correct thing for you to do is to describe the changes you want made on the talk page associated with the article about you, Talk:Thomas_Sheehan. If possible, please provide references. Then a helpful and impartial editor may update the article itself.

(There used to be a problem here, the "talk" tab at Thomas Sheehan was wrongly redirected to Talk:Tom Sheehan (politician). I have deleted the redirect. I hope that was the best way to fix it.) Maproom (talk) 07:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Signature

Help me how to make a signature — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.179.160.213 (talk) 07:10, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Type 4 tildes at the end of your message ~~~~, or use the signature icon in the edit toolbar at the top of the edit window. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)You need an account to have what most people consider a signature. Though you can always sign your posts using four tildes, like so ~~~~ Which in my case yields: Dismas|^(talk) 09:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Image correction on the article

Hello,

I like to point out something about the logo on Ashghal's info box- Ashghal There has been an error on the image which is currently used. The actual logo has a line between the English and Arabic text which is missing from the one currently used... the new logo can be downloaded through this link. http://www.picatom.com/2a/Logo2-17.html I will appreciate if this logo can be replaced. Will appreciate your assistance- Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 08:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I replaced it. The pictacom one was .jpg format that won't do the transparent background. If it needs to be transparent then use .png.--Canoe1967 (talk) 10:12, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

@Canoe1967 Hi. I wasn't aware of this technical aspect, I saw that the updated one is in .png, I believe you converted it in this format. Thank you for the assistance and prompt action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.152.10.111 (talk) 11:30, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

How Do I Re-submit an article after making requested changes?

Frustrating. I provide all changes requested and there are no instructions on what to do next. No "resubmit" button. Please advise. Thanks. Montpine (talk) 10:56, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

There was a resubmit button until the relevant tag was deleted in this change. I've added it back again for you. You will want to read WP:referencing for beginners, a link for which is provided in the feedback box which you can now see again. As a less important point you should remove the leading spaces at the beginning of lines, as these are causing the formatting errors which you can see in your draft. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Please do not delete previous review boxes, they provide you with many links to useful information and guidance, they provide reviewers with information about the review history of the draft so that we can better help you, and finally they contain the resubmit button. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

The style of the article needs a lot of improvement. Why, for instance, does it start with a random remark about Denver? If that is where she was born, the article needs to say so. Maproom (talk) 12:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

City State link question

Which is correct to use [[Pierre, South Dakota|Pierre]], [[South Dakota]] or [[Pierre, South Dakota]] or is the answer that either is appropriate, just don't change it. The closest I can find is WP:SPECIFICLINK, but even that doesn't seem to quite align.Naraht (talk) 14:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

If the reader is likely to be interested in the state, as well as the city, then the former would be appropriate. If not, then the latter would be better. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I personally don't like to see the city and state split as two links. One reason is that Pierre, South Dakota, looks like a single link that can be clicked anywhere to go to the city, but that's not true. A second reason is that this wikitext is less than clear to a new editor. I just assume that a reader interested in the state can easily get there with two clicks (to the city, then the state), if presented with a single link.-- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:07, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Missing article history?

Dear editors: I received on my talk page a thank you for creating this article: Palmetto Education Association. However, it is not an article that I wrote. I looked at the history, and the first edit is me moving the article from another user's sandbox into the Afc so that it could be reviewed. I am sure that I used the standard move method, since the default text is in the edit summary. What could have happened to the older history of the page, showing the original creation by the original user? Is there any way to change the attribution so that the correct editor gets credit for creating the article? —Anne Delong (talk) 14:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

You moved the author's sandbox to AFC where it was later moved to become American Teachers Association. The author then reused the sandbox (the opening item of the history being your page move) to create Palmetto Education Association. I've deleted the first few items of the history of the PEA artile to make it less confusing when looking to see who started the article. Bencherlite^Talk 15:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I have moved hundred of articles out of sandboxes, and this is the first time this has happened.

Donating photos

Dear editors: I am creating an article about a geological feature, and my husband has taken two photos which he has agreed to donate to Wikimedia Commons to be included in the article. He doesn't have a Wikipedia account. Can I upload them myself and include the fact that the photographer has agreed to donate the photos? Or does he have to get involved himself (he'd rather not)? —Anne Delong (talk) 15:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

If your husband doesn't want to register a Wikipedia account, he could upload the images to another website, with a copyleft notice with the appropriate licence. Details of the options are at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:52, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, he has agreed to make an account. One more question: To donate photos, does he have to use his real name for a user name? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:01, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Another option would be for you to upload the images and for your husband to communicate appropriate permission to OTRS via the process described at WP:IOWN.--ukexpat (talk) 17:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

As long as the photos don't appear anywhere else in copyrighted form, he can use a user name rather than his real name. Looie496 (talk) 17:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; I think I have managed it. At least, the images are showing up in my article, The Gut (geological feature). —Anne Delong (talk) 05:47, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Rock Paper Photo Edit

Hello, I work for Rock Paper Photo: Fine Art Photography. All I am doing is going to the wiki pages of our photographers and adding our site to their page. Apparently, because I am doing this to numerous pages in "rapid succession" it is considered spamming. I'm not trying to spam, I'm just trying to make clean edits. Is there a way for me to do this without getting "blacklisted?"

-Elana 50.74.5.67 (talk) 16:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry but, in general, external links should lead the reader to further (encyclopedic) information about the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:External links for what is acceptable.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

No. You are spamming (whether you do it in rapid succession or not). Please revert your edits now. Wikipedia's guidelines are at external links. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:26, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

See MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/February 2012#rockpaperphoto.com; though it was left in three articles prior to your insertions. Dru of Id (talk) 16:31, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

References

Sir/Madam:

I am the author of an article submitted to Wikipedia about the Public Service Advertising Research Center which I founded nearly 20 years ago. The article was rejected due to not having references and as I review the article, I am not sure what needs a reference and would request that someone tell me what needs a reference so I can provide it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.188.185.195 (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I suspect that what is missing is not just "references", but "references that demonstrate that the subject of the article is notable". And if your Research Center is not notable, you will not be able to provide these, however hard you try. Maproom (talk) 21:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

CURRENT CONGRESS:

How can I find out the congressman/women that have taken a JUNKET in the recent congress that could be considered out of line with the last resolution passed by congress to limit these trips paid by "other" and of course we their bosses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.187.137 (talk) 20:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

This is a help desk for questions about editing Wikipedia. You might find somebody able to answer the question on the Reference desk - but it will help if you say what country you are in. And I suggest you ask it in a way that makes it clear that your question is a real question, and not just an excuse for a rant, or it will likely get removed as soapboxing. --ColinFine (talk) 10:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Footnotes

Editors:

I can't seem to get the footnotes to come out right despite trying my best to follow the directions. Instead of each footnote appearing correctly, they all referenced the source in the first footnote and completely left out the content that was supposed to appear in the footnotes. I have tried to fix but cannot. The footnotes in the text looks correct but when I press preview it all comes out wrong. Help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsgwun (talk • contribs) 20:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Your problem was that you had {{reflist}} tags scattered like confetti throughout your draft. {{reflist}} should occur once, and that in the ==References== section near the end of the article. I've hopefully sorted that out for you, but you need to read WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:30, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Help to avoid deletion: Articles for Creation space

Hi,

I received a message stating "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/[my article], a page you created has not been edited in at least 180 days."

My article has been in the articlespace for some time. Is my article (which is about a magazine that's currently in circulation) in danger of being deleted? Or does it just need to be removed from Articles for Creation space? I'm not clear on my next step. Do I need to edit or add to the magazine's Wiki page? I want to ensure that the Wiki article that I wrote stays on Wikipedia.

Thanks in advance!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.22.153 (talk) 20:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

If it's in Articles for Creation space it's not currently part of the encyclopedia, and if you're not working on it there is a likelihood that it will be deleted. If you tell us the name of the draft we can look at it and may be able to help you get it into a state when it may pass the review stage and be accepted for the encyclopedia. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:59, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, David! If you, or anyone, could take a look and tell me what I need to do, I would really appreciate it.

The article title is "We Are In America." link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Are_In_America — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.22.153 (talk) 21:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

That article is in mainspace - the notification is not about it. Maybe there is a copy of it in AFC? Please copy the exact link directly from the message you received. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Here is the link I received in the message. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/WEAREAMERICA

Here's the first sentence of the message: Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/WEAREAMERICA, a page you created has not been edited in at least 180 days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.22.153 (talk) 22:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/WEAREAMERICA was a rejected draft which has not been modified since October 2011. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/We Are In America was a new, separate, draft created in May 2012, and it was that which was accepted into main space as the article We Are In America. It is the old rejected 2011 draft which has been proposed for deletion, so unless there is any information which you want to salvage from the old draft before it is deleted, you don't need to worry. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi David, I see. Thank you. I was unaware a draft had been created in 2011. I will leave it alone. Again, thanks so much!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.22.153 (talk) 07:11, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Chemophobia page

Hello,

A page called "Chemophobia" has been put up there but a communications firm representing the chemicL Industry. it is a thinly veiled attack on science and scientists documenting health impacts from chemicals. The author "Grumpy Andy" works for a media firm which has been hired by the chemical industry and has just "reported" me to yo folks. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepheniehendricks (talk • contribs) 20:48, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

What you can do is comply with Wikipedia policy, which requires you to discuss contested edits, rather than edit-war. And for the record, I do not work for the 'chemical industry' - though I don't expect for one minute that you will believe this, since you are evidently batshit crazy. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

To AndyTheGrump: as you know, you should not make personal accusations to other editors.

To Stepheniehendricks: please sign your postings; please try to get other editors' names right; please do not make unjustified accusations against them; and please try to spell words like "chemical" correctly. If you fail in all of these, you do indeed give the impression (unjustified, I am sure) that you are batshit crazy. This does not help your cause. Maproom (talk) 21:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

It was a characterisation, rather than an accusation - and I'd say that the evidence is quite sufficient to suggest that it is accurate, and if Stepheniehendricks doesn't like it, she should think before casting aspersions at all and sundry. As it happens, I think the article could do with a little editing to rectify the rather overdone 'this is all irrational' line - but Stepheniehendricks accusations of everyone being paid chemical industry shills isn't the way to rectify it. Incidentally, I'd not even edited the article prior to this incident, as the article history shows.... AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

How long have you been working in pubic relations, Grumpy Andy?[1] Bishonen | talk 19:32, 21 August 2013 (UTC).

OTRS pending

Dear editors: I wanted a couple of photos for my article The Gut (geological feature), so I uploaded a couple that my husband had taken and e-mailed his licensing form to the appropriate spot. However, I forgot to add the OTRS pending tag to the description of the images. I tried to find the images again, but the search engine won't find them - probably because they are new. How do I add the tag to the description retroactively? —Anne Delong (talk) 20:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

You can see a list of your contributions to the Commons at commons:Special:Contributions/Anne_Delong. Scarce2 (talk) 21:15, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

And regarding the "how', you just edit the file page to include {{subst:OP}} in the "permission" field. Deor (talk) 23:52, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I will bookmark that contributions page in case I need to make more changes later. The instructions for donating photographs just said "place on the image page", but didn't say where. —Anne Delong (talk) 05:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Help with article

Have read tutorial. Just need a little help with set-up! - Thankyou Kurt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wwkweinberg (talk • contribs) 21:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

If you are the topic you are trying to create an article about (judging by your past edits), I strongly discourage you from proceeding (see Wikipedia:Autobiography). Otherwise, just follow the article wizard, it will help you in creating a new article. Scarce2 (talk) 21:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Login Problem

My user name is "Terkurs" i registered in July 2013 and subited an edit on "Crisis Cell". I want to do more writings and edits but i can't login. Its like i forgot my password. Pls help me out asap. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.186.22.121 (talk) 21:56, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Note: Two duplicate posts removed. The username "Terkurs" does not appear to be registered: [2]. If you set an Email address to your account, you can go to Special:PasswordReset and enter either your Email or username. ~HueSatLum 22:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

From the edit history of Crisis Cell, it looks as if the user name was Terkura, not Terkurs. Sounds as if you forgot not the password but the user name. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Updating IMS Health entry

Hello,

I am an employee of IMS Health and have been updating the IMS Health Wikipedia page to ensure it's up-to-date, accurate and valuable to the community and any visitors. I had been doing it without an account, but this was considered bad practice and the page was called-out by another user as a potential conflict of interest (COI).

In a discussion with this user on his talk page, I've created an account clearly indicating that I am updating the page as an employee of the company. This may appear to be a COI, but I take great care to keep the content bias-free, up-to-date, and ultimately valuable to all visitors. Without my edits, this page would be quite outdated and not accurate, which I think is worse than me trying to keep it up-to-date and relevant.

After being instructed to read the COI policy, going forward, I will post on the page's talk page any plans I have prior to updating the site. If others in the community don't take on the role of updating based on the referenced content, I will make the update to ensure the page maintains its value.

Based on this background and work I've done to comply with the COI concerns, I would like to know how I can have the COI tag removed from the IMS Health page[[3]]. Also, the logo on the page is now outdated, and I am unable to update it due to the newness of the account. Can someone grab the logo from their website (http://imshealth.com) and replace the logo so that it's accurate?

Thank you, Jon from IMS Health (talk) 14:33, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Encyclopedic Bias of Some Admins

Resolved

Good day! May I ask if anyone can help me regarding some encyclopedic bias of some admins.

I created an article and I did my best to follow the rules especially Wp:GNG, WP:SIGCOV and WP:NRVE and after a day, unfortunately some admins tagged the page for deletion.

While I understand that it's their responsibility to clean WP, I am just sad that they may be just relying on their encyclopedic bias rather than the rules established by WP itself to clean the pages.

If you can see the AFD of that page, you can see that I have explained in detail the defense for that article. Mainly because the subject I wrote has satisfied the requirements of Wp:GNG, WP:SIGCOV, WP:NRVE and to add to it, satisfies WP:BLP1E and #2 of WP:ENT. Therefore passes the WP:NOTABILITY criteria.

Although I am open for corrections, I know (in the spirit of WP) that all basis for decisions should be grounded in the WP rules. However, the dissenting opinions are just "I am unconvinced" and "WP is not a tabloid" without citing anything in the WP rules. Isn't that unfair, because if that's the norm, then the articles here in WP is subject to the subjectivity of the editors rather than objectivity that is grounded by the WP rules.

Again, I am open for corrections and appreciate the debate. But debates should be grounded on the WP rules and not just what the particular admins are feeling that day.

Let me give you an example, in the article, I cited carefully from the biggest networks of the Philippines where the subject comes from. One of the admins dismissed the sources as "Fringe Media." But all the sources cited are news outlets, and big company websites, it even has a TV show snippet, and not just mere blogs. Then why "Fringe Media?" Is it because it came from a 3rd World Country and comparably small, say, in comparison to CNN and MSNBC?

Another example, since my subject is a blogger, one of the admins said that the claim to fame of that blogger is writing about a "very minor celebrity." That "very minor celebrity" is the 1st Runner Up of an international pageant and is considered as a heroine for her country.

Dismissing the sources from that country as "fringe media" and dismissing a certain person as a "very minor celebrity" is an encyclopedic bias (and bordering on racist tendencies, IMHO) of certain people.

People of lesser stature has passed WP:NOTABILITY standards here in WP but I won't stick to that argument because it seldom carries weight as indicated in WP:OTHERSTUFF.

Although I admit the admins are not perfect since we are all just humans, I urge them to be more sensitive to the topics that does not come from their native land. It's not only Americans or Europeans who uses WP, but other countries as well. And valuable info for a citizen of that country may not be as valuable for others, but it doesn't mean we should deny them access to that info, especially if it is notable enough WP:NOTABILITY by WP standards.

I may be new here, but for what I know, WP is not a frathouse, where new pledges get subject to higher classmen "because they said so." It all should be grounded on the rules.

That's why there's the rules. And the article is cited properly using the Wp:GNG, WP:SIGCOV, WP:NRVE standards. This is not an AFD debate, but more of a "talking out loud" and a way to plea to some of the admins of WP to be more sensitive. Drumsaway (talk) 22:59, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

This is an ongoing AfD. An uninvolved Administrator will review the opinions expressed and close the discussion after seven days, pursuant to WP:CONSENSUS. If you believe the closing administrator made a decision that did not properly reflect the consensus, you can ask for a review at WP:Deletion Review. Calling other editors or administrators "biased" because you have a disagreement can be seen as a personal attack and is not allowed. You do not need to canvass or repeatedly expressing your opinion. Give your opinion, respond to other opinions if you think a mistake was made, and then let the closing admin make their final decision. Singularity42 (talk) 23:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, actually that's why I didn't put actual usernames here so that it won't be seen as an WP:NPA. It's more of a universal thing, by the Law of total probability, I am sure I am not the only one who experienced this. I'm shutting up now, but I hope a WP rule should be established regarding "sensitivity to an issue not native to an editor's country" or something. That's what I am aiming for and not to canvass actually. And that's why I put it here in the helpdesk, because, where else, right? Thanks.Drumsaway (talk) 00:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I think you will find that the Help Desk is not a great place to get help dealing with concepts, etc. (such as how to deal with general biases, etc.). The Help Desk can help explain the process, and generally speaking, the process works. Work with the process, follow the guidance above, and see what happens. Remember, you may not be happy with the end-result, but that's part of contributing to a community- and consensus-based project. Singularity42 (talk) 02:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

August 21

Assistance with changing name of page on Wikipedia?

Hello,

I have recently edited the page titled "Charities Commission (New Zealand)" on Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charities_Commission_(New_Zealand)

The Charities Commission no longer exists (it was disestablished by legislation, on 1 July 2012), and its functions have been transferred to the Department of Internal Affairs and re-named "Charities Services". I have reflected these changes in the update I have posted.

However, I have found myself unable to re-name the Wikipedia page as "Charities Services (New Zealand)", so anyone searching by this name now can't find the correct page. Is someone able to help me do this?

Thank you!

Sandra

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandra Bennett (talk • contribs) 04:01, 21 August 2013 (UTC) 

Welcome to Wikipedia. You can rename a page by moving it to a new name. See WP:MOVE for details and instructions. RudolfRed (talk)

Copying article to new correct official titled article

I was editing an article about Kununurra Airport, a place I know well because my sister and parents live there. Since a major airport expansion was finished last year, the official name of the airport has become East Kimberley Regional Airport. So being conscious of a need to be accurate with in Wikipedia, I thought I would make a correction.

Now, I could have simply made a #redirect to the old Kununurra Airport article. This would mean the page title would be incorrect and so I decided to edit the current article and then copied it to a new East Kimberley Regional Airport page. Almost instantly a bot highlighted the relevance to the old article, despite myself stating in the comments that I intended to create a redirect in the old article.

Essentially, have I put the cart before the horse or simply applied matters in the wrong format or procedure. I am happy for any advice and corrections needed.

Livewireshock (talk) 04:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I looked at the article. If it's true that it's still mostly known as Kununurra Airport, then that's where the page should be, even if the official name is different. See WP:COMMONNAME. The next time you need to rename an article, look at WP:MOVE. It puts the page at the new name and automatically inserts the redirect from the old name. For your case, I think you should redirect from the new page back to Kununurra Airport. RudolfRed (talk) 04:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Copied photos?

Dear editors: I was about to tag this article Katum Kutum for speedy deletion because it is copied from various sources. However, there are images on the page. Two of them have been published along with the copied text, and one has the photographer's name in the newspaper, and it is not the same as the name on the copyright notice on the image file. Is there a proper place to report this? Should I blank the page anyway? —Anne Delong (talk) 05:00, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

You can tag the media files as copyright violations here or at Commons (wherever they're hosted). Which images are copyright violations? I see the top-most one has already been tagged. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 05:37, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, this one: File:Utpal Kumar Chakrabarty.jpg appears to be the same as this one in the Telegraph India at http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130801/jsp/siliguri/story_17167049.jsp#.UhRB1T9TVUo , but has a different photographer name. This one File:Snehesh Sinha.jpg appears to be cropped from http://m.outlookindia.com/story.aspx?sid=4&aid=215789, but this doesn't have a photographer shown, so it's hard to tell. —Anne Delong (talk) 06:19, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

re article 'Jensen's Swamp' submitted in January 2013.

I have received a message from HasteurBot advising that more and better references are required. This is a local project, created by volunteers, and it is the very lack of information that makes this Wikipedia article needed. There really aren't any other references. What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Essaie2 (talk • contribs) 07:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I regret to say that if there are no other sources, then the article should not exist. Wikipedia only accepts articles on items for which there has been substantial coverage in independent sources. Its purpose is not to act as a publicity medium. Instead, go out and persuade local papers and news media to write and talk about it, and hopefully it will become notable enough to have an article here. Rojomoke (talk) 09:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry Essaie, but you have a misunderstanding about Wikipedia. A lack of information on a subject does not make a Wikipedia article 'needed': it makes it impossible. Wikipedia is not a means of promotion, no matter how worthy the cause. --ColinFine (talk) 10:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

How is an article assessed?

Hello, I've been working on an article and I was wondering, how can someone assess it and determine how good it is written like many pages here on Wikipedia? Any information regarding this issue would be useful! Inspironss (talk) 07:05, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Good article criteria.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. This was the page I was looking for Wikipedia:Good article nominations Inspironss (talk) 08:27, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I need to create a genuine page regarding the owner of company.

I'm a customer of Webage Solutions India. I have very good experience with this company specially the administrator. I need to create a page addressing him, but it is not for promoting him, it is my choice to create a page for him. So I request you to tell me if I'm doing anything wrong.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farhan0075 (talk • contribs) 07:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for asking. You can create an article about him if he meet's Wikipedia's definition of notability, and more specifically notability for people, and if you can demonstrate this by references to published reliable sources discussing him. If he meets these criteria, then see WP:1st. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:52, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Page declined, what to do now?

I created a page called 'Leiden International Film Festival' but it was declined due to a lack of reliable independent sources by Dodger67. I improved it by adding many sources and resubmitted it, but that's over a week ago and I've heard nothing back. The page is actually a translation of a Dutch page that already exists so it shouldn't be too hard to have it put up. Can somebody help me? I've never edited Wikipedia before so I'm in desperate need of some help. Thank you! -Sophie — Preceding unsigned comment added by SophieJansen (talk • contribs) 09:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

English Wikipedia has different notability guidelines to other Wikipedia variants, so the fact that it came from a Wikipedia source isn't necessarily a ticket to an easy ride. Also, the Articles for creation teams are usually quite busy, so you may have to wait some to hear back from them. You'll see at the top of the page you created that there is a wait of 2-3 weeks currently estimated, as there are over 1000 articles waiting for review. Give it time, and it'll be reviewed again. However, I've just taken a look over the article myself, and you may want to consider the following:

• The tone seems to be quite promotional in places, rather than encyclopaedic. For instance, phrases like "brainchild", and "not only" read more like an advert than an informative, non-bias article. Consider revising the tone of the article.
• The article seems to have multiple formatting issues. For instance, what appears to be an attempt at a title is instead displayed as =s, and you have placed a source on a title line. Sources should be inline with the text, backing up the points made in the content of the article, rather than the names of sections. Also, numbers shouldn't be formatted with "."s denoting thousands in English Wikipedia. Finally, the content of the Competition section is formatted as if it is a code sample, rather than informative text. Consider using a table, as this BAFTA award does.
• The table for visitor numbers and winners needs sources that back up all the data. Unfortunately, you cannot use other Wikipedia articles, no matter what language, as sources.
• Some explanation of the content of the table may also be useful. For instance, what is "Iron Herring"? The table heading gives no indication of what this term means, nor how to find out more about it.
• Finally, you'll need a few more sources. As mentioned above, Wikipedia isn't an accepted source, although you may find you can get some sources from the article you've currently cited. Most of the other sources are primary, meaning they are from the organisation itself. This doesn't prove the notability of the subject, and often leads to promotion-centric articles. Look for articles on reliable news sites, journals, or in newspaper archives.

If you try to incorporate some of the above suggestions into your article before it is next reviewed, it's more likely to get accepted into article space as soon as possible. If you need help with any of the formatting issues I've mentioned, you can ask me on my talk page. I hope this helps!  drewmunn  talk  09:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

World Firefighters Games

To whom it may concern, I am a friend of the Worldfirfighters Games and have been looking at it lateley and it appears that someone has been editing the page so as to remove the full history of the World Firefighters games and use it to promote their own by assuming control of the page. I have noticed that the page is now locked from editing until FEB 2014 this is a great idea but wouldn't it be prudent to restore the original content of the games that was available for many years until someone calling themselves WFG changed and deleted the history and many other sections releveant to the World Firefighters Games. I feel that an injustice is being done here and that you are able to correct it quite easily. Kindest regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Straightnnarrow (talk • contribs) 09:11, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi! There are still some major issues with this article, and it looks like it needs some serious work. May I suggest that you start an edit request on the article's talk page for the content you wish to see reinstated. Meanwhile, the user you have mentioned seems to be in contravention of Wikipedia's username guidelines, so I will look at beginning action to resolve that also. Thank you for your vigilance!  drewmunn  talk  09:29, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

can i connect my any mobile with directly to pen drive

plz give me fast answer.i want to need. actually i took subject in research methodology and sunject name is mobile with pendrive connectivity.i also know about android mobile connect with pen drive using otg. plz give me some information about i mention is subject topic.i want to connect my every mobile with pendrive.can i use otg to my simple mobile also.plz i expect some anwer from u — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.225.106.9 (talk) 10:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

This page is for questions on how to use Wikipedia. You may find the reference desk more useful.  drewmunn  talk  10:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Citation popup window failing

Description of problem= Sometimes under the cite tab of the editing window (Not VE), the templates drop down menu "drops down" behind the editing panel itself, so you can't see or select the templates in the list. Other times, the drop down menu does appear correctly, but clicking on one of the template choices does not bring up the citation window.

Refreshing the page a few times usually solves this problem, but it is v annoying if in the middle of something. This only started happening after VE was introduced. I blame VE, somehow it is making bugs even though I don't even use it. Advice appreciated if anyone knows anything about this bug and how to fix it. Lesion (talk) 11:22, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

It's not a problem I seem to be able to replicate; what browser and OS are you using? I personally use ProveIt for referencing most of the time (you can enable it in your preferences), and find it much nicer than the built in tools.  drewmunn  talk  11:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I use chrome on windows 8. This set up was working fine before VE, and I don't want to learn how to use a new add on when the old one works fine 95% of the time. It's just that it used to work 100% of the time. I know, I know ... Post hoc ergo propter hoc but honestly this started after VE was launched. I only complain now because it is starting to annoy me and I was wondering if this is a known bug. Lesion (talk) 11:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Go to Wikipedia:RefToolbar, select the version you are using and discuss on the talk page. --  Gadget850 ^talk 12:15, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Rejection and Submission

I had an article rejected twice and I corrected the article, actually I rewrote the article, according to the suggestions made by the people that reviewed the article and that has been more than a week ago yet no one will check the article again. I have resubmitted it several times..What do I need to do to get the article checked again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisabohler (talk • contribs) 13:21, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

To get it checked, you need to resubmit it. But at present I believe it would fail: most of the references you have are either not reliable sources (eg blogs) or not independent of the subject. There is still peacock language, it's formatted in great blocks of text which are hard to read and have few references, much of the material seems to be not about the Chateau but about certain individuals. The lede needs to give some context, like "The Chateau de Canisy is a fifteenth century castle in Northern France". But the shortage of independent, reliable sources is the most serious problem. --ColinFine (talk) 14:24, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I think, Colin, that you might be starting to share some of Lisa's confusion. It has been resubmitted, and in fact the last 5 edits to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Chateu de Canisy have each been submissions, and of course the last 4 have been pointless because they have just been resubmitting the same version. Colin's points on the content are, of course, valid. Another point, of course, is that Lisa seems to have got muddled with the spelling of the draft, having missed out the second letter "a" from the word "Chateau", so she may want to move the draft. There is further confusion in that as well as the draft at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Chateu de Canisy there is also a Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Chateu de Canisy, apparently being worked on in parallel, but that isn't where an AFC draft belongs so to avoid further confusion she may want to tag that with {{db-author}} to get it deleted once she has salvaged any content that she wishes to keep for the other version. (This latter one not only spells "chateau" wrongly in the draft title but gets confused between singular & plural & refers to it as "chateaux" in numerous places in the text). - David Biddulph (talk) 15:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ekin Tunçay Turan

Dear editors: This is the first article that I have nominated for an Afd discussion, because the main text had to be deleted as a copyright violation and there were no independent sources. I notified the Turkish Wikiproject, since any possible references would probably be in Turkish.

A helpful editor has rewritten the biography text. The original article author left an unhappy posting on my talk page, and I suggested that he/she post at the Afd discussion in favour of keeping the article, but so far that hasn't happened. No one else has commented. Is there something else that I should have done? —Anne Delong (talk) 13:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I think you did nearly everything right. You forgot to sign on the WikiProject Turkey talkpage, I think? I have linked the page here to the corresponding one on Turkish wp, and added an {{Expand Turkish}} tag to the article. As you surely know, if you now feel that the article should not be deleted, there's nothing to stop you from withdrawing your nomination at the AfD discussion. If you do so, you could also ask if that makes the article a "speedy keep". Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Does Wikipedia have any sort of suggestions regarding pronunciations in articles? Particularly in medical and legal articles, very long, unfamiliar words are used and the reader has no idea how to pronounce them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.100.30.159 (talk) 13:47, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Articles about named people or places often do have a pronunciation guide, sometimes even a recorded segment. But it would not be appropriate to provide pronunciation guides for words which happen to be used in articles: see a dictionary for this. --ColinFine (talk) 14:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

improve/deletion warning

"Knightmare On Wall Street" (book) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi, I'm editing "Knightmare on Wall Street"(book)but it seems to have multiple issues and it about to be delete. I would like to improve the article and save it from deletion. I'll apreciate your help. Martin Campos

Martin raul campos (talk) 16:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be any evidence of the notability of the subject, and no sources are presented to prove otherwise. At the very least, major work must be done to revise the content. The page title is incorrect, the structure is poor, and the tone of the content is incorrect. All of these improvements, however, are unlikely to resolve the underlying issue that the book does not seem to meet the notability criteria.  drewmunn  talk  16:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

I didn't realize wikipedia is a political site

This is completely outrageous, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_LePage Do you really allow this kind of political hatchet jobs on wiki? If so I can cite many sources about Barack Obama's agenda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.179.157.205 (talk) 16:29, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Although every effort is made to ensure content added by Wikipedia's large number of contributors, it is not possible to moderate ever one of the millions of live article at all times. As I am not knowledgable in the area of American politics, I cannot judge whether your comments are accurate with regards the article you have mentioned. However, you may wish to start a request for comment on the article's talk page, requesting other editors opinions on the content, and suggesting changes.  drewmunn  talk  16:34, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a political site, as I suspect you well know. It tries to maintain neutrality, but particularly on controversial topics, it is impossible to satisfy everybody's view of the topic; and sometimes an article does get written with a bias and not corrected. At first sight Paul LePage appears to be well-referenced, from reliable sources; but like SonicScrewdriver I know nothing about Maine politics, and it is quite possible that the article is one-sided. Please follow Sonicdrewdriver's suggestion. --ColinFine (talk) 18:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Redirect requests

Hi, anybody know if there's an official way to request an article become a redirect? For example, when we want to propose a page deletion, we have AfD, which allows us to get a bunch of eyes on the article. It's also super-simple to pop that request through Twinkle. I know that I can personally turn a page into a redirect, but the page doesn't get a lot of foot traffic, and my preference would be to get some sort of consensus to justify the redirect, so we can avoid the back-and-forth that sometimes happens with redirects. Boomerang +1 is the article. It's both been an article and a redirect, but the article was essentially a duplicate of Boomerang (UK & Ireland) and didn't impart any new information that wasn't already covered in the main article. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:23, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

There's no defined system that I know of, but an RfC on the page to which it would redirect would probably be the best manner in which to gain opinions. A little more outlandish, perhaps, would be a merge request. Although there's not content to merge, it would have the same effect (merging a blank page into a full page and having a redirect created). However, it's a little round-the-houses when an RfC would provide the same function. I hope this helps!  drewmunn  talk  17:35, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Nice! Thanks much! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Assistance with article

Is anybody here? This is the 3rd time I have requested assistance with my article over a period of 2 days! Jealosy is very un-becoming with a neutral source!?

Please respond! Kurt and friendsWwkweinberg (talk) 18:50, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

What article are you referring to? If it is the text that is on your user page, User:Wwkweinberg, then it's hard to tell what you're trying to get across to the reader. Maybe Your first article and Wikipedia:Article wizard will help you out. Dismas|^(talk) 19:00, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

It was an article I tagged for speedy deletion. Take a look at his talk page. Insulam Simia (talk) 19:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

First, please be patient. Everybody here is a volunteer, and works on what they choose, rather than to your deadlines. Secondly, read the response to your previous posting here, and stop trying to create an autobiography (if that's not what you're doing, I apologise, but I can't find any references to any other article you have worked on). Third, please assume good faith rather than talking about jealousy. The deletion, and the responses on your talk page, are governed by Wikipedia's rules. --ColinFine (talk) 19:07, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia article "Lewis Lockwood"

Dear Help Desk: In the article "Lewis Lockwood" can you help me delete the reference number "3" and the apparently defective reference information -- and renumber the remaining refereBoccherini (talk) 19:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)nce numbers and material? Lewis Lockwood ^^^^Boccherini (talk) 19:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

 Done Removed info now left unsourced as well. Insulam Simia (talk) 19:33, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Assistance with article

Thanks Wiki user's/reference desk for your assistance! I will use set-up wizard, and other accepted procedures for the article in the future! Usalim-I think you are working for Hawking!Wwkweinberg (talk) 19:44, 21 August 2013 (UTC)K.R.W

use of 'fair use' information when writing a ancestry history book

I have referenced Wiki. in factual information for Hobo's; Model A ford; Fall Creek Massacre; Indiana Rangers; even Joan of Arc and Hundred Year war in France for a 10 generation historical fiction book of my ancestors to be published. What steps do I need to take to insure the 'Fair Use' doctrine is in play or what steps are required for written permission to access your copyrights of these items? Thank you, Rob Harden <redacted contact info> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE9A:810:695B:E431:76EB:94D3 (talk) 19:46, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Rob. I don't quite understand your question. Almost all the material in Wikipedia is licensed in such a way that it may be freely used for all purposes, commercial or not, as long as the conditions of the licence are met (which are mostly about attribution). See WP:REUSE for the detail. --ColinFine (talk) 20:57, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be necessary for the author to paraphrase (rather than quote) any material in Wikipedia in order to obtain full copyright to the novel? If substantial portions are copied from Wikipedia, wouldn't it cause the Creative Commons copyleft to be inherited into the book? Robert McClenon (talk) 23:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Technically, licensing the derivative work under CC-by-SA is a requirement of the original license. If the writer does not do this, then they are in breach of the license (and possibly infringing copyright), but the derivative work doesn't "inherit" copyleft automatically unless they choose to license it that way (avoiding copyright infringement). If fair use (or some other exception) applies, then there is no need to agree to the license to use the original work, so they can license the derivative however they want. MChesterMC (talk) 10:39, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Fair use means, by definition, that no written permission is required. As for specifics, we can't give you legal advice as to what constitutes fair use. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 05:30, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Creating reference section on talk page

How can I create a reference section on a talk page, and have it be "self contained" so a different editor could create a different reference section? See Template talk:Rtr.

The purpose of the reference section is to provide an example in a discussion of citation techniques. Jc3s5h (talk) 21:49, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Are you perhaps thinking of Template:Reflist-talk? - David Biddulph (talk) 22:00, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, that was it. Jc3s5h (talk) 22:29, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Citing new media sources

I'm having a thought, but I'm not sure how (or if) to proceed. I was looking at the citation templates, and knew from dealing with media-related articles that there is a protocol for media sources (television, et al.), and I was making minor tweaks to the article on comedian Judy Gold as I was listening to an interview with her on Marc Maron's WTF podcast. Is citing a podcast 1) something that would be appropriate in certain contextx and 2) something that would be done via that broadcast citation template? Absurdist1968 (talk) 22:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

As long as it meets the notability criteria, I see no reason not to use a podcast as a source. In fact, I'm sure I've come across them as references before. I'd use the cite AV media template, which includes a medium parameter that supports "Podcast" as an option.  drewmunn  talk  22:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

We actually have {{cite podcast}}, but I eventually want to merge it into {{cite AV media}}. --  Gadget850 ^talk 09:59, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

location on map in infobox

Hello, In Carrière des Nerviens Regional Nature Reserve, I can not point the reserve on the map. Would you help me, please. Thanks. Christian COGNEAUX (talk) 22:33, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

| map = France will do it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

August 22

Article text missing when attempting to edit

The bottom paragraph of the following article, Mobile_phones_on_aircraft (Technical_discussion), is missing a word. When attempting to edit this section, the last paragraph disappears. In fact, once I log into Wikipedia, the paragraph disappears entirely. Am I missing something or did I stumble across a MediaWiki or caching bug? Kruncher (talk) 03:09, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Which paragraph are you referring to? I can't tell if I can't see the "last one" if I don't know what that one is supposed to be. RudolfRed (talk) 03:12, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I've purged the page's cache. If you're still seeing the error, purge your own cache.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:14, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Your purging of the page's cache seems to have done the trick. The paragraph used to start with "Cell phones do cause interference to aircraft communications" and ended with "This interference is a reason to not have phones on during critical phases of flight near the ground". Kruncher (talk) 03:26, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Regarding my personal profile page title(URL address)

Hello,

I created my page on last 20 Aug 2013 and my page URl is shown http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jeewantha_Ranganath_Samarasekara and i just want to know that how can I get URL like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeewantha_Ranganath_Samarasekara without "User:". Because of that I can't even link to my profile page from another page. Wiki says that there is no page by my name "Jeewantha_Ranganath_Samarasekara". Please help me on this. Still I'm developing my page at the moment.

Thank You Jeewantha Ranganath — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeewantha Ranganath Samarasekara (talk • contribs) 06:03, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

You cannot. The main space is only for encyclopedia articles about subjects that are notable. What you have on your page is not an article. If you want to link to your page, you can use User:Jeewantha_Ranganath_Samarasekara RudolfRed (talk) 06:18, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Wkipedia is not a social networking site and does not publish "profile pages". Your user page is a place for telling other users about your skills and interests relative to using and editing Wikipedia. If you are sufficiently notable to merit an article in the main space, you are not the right person to write it. - Karenjc 06:52, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Changing the title of the page

If a wikipedia page is named incorrectly, how do you change it? As in, the title of the page is inocorrect — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.5.5.66 (talk) 07:28, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

If it is actually wrong, the "Move" button (under the down-arrow at the top right) is available to autoconfirmed users, but in response to the original wording of this question (regarding Ineos or INEOS) the guidance is at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

As you mentioned, it should be all in capitals. How do I change this?

Golia

I have made an article (Golia,Odisha) on my user space (debashiskhataijawahar) and later I moved the same article to my Sandbox provided I have deleted all the contents of my article from the userspace and later requested for the speedy deletion.

So my query is that ,whether my article will be deleted from the Sandbox too or it will delete the same article from my userspace only.

Please help me out in this case.

Advanced Thanks.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Debashiskhataijawahar (talk • contribs) 10:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

What you wrote is now at Wikipedia_talk:Golia,_Ganjam, where you can work on it until it is ready to be submitted as an article. Maproom (talk) 10:19, 22 August 2013 (UTC)