User talk:NeilN

Rajiv Malhotra

Please take a look at the history of the Rajiv Malhotra page. Edit warring has been taking place on this page and now i see a newly registered editor (DharmoRakshati) making his first edit on this page where he begins with edit warring. The controversial section pertains to a recent controversy where it has been alleged that Malhotra is guilty of plagiarism. Please consider semi-protecting this page for some time.Soham321 (talk) 06:03, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Soham321, another admin has applied full protection. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:52, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Protection level of Cory in the House

Hi Neil, given the history of protection and vandalism, especially that the PC1 you applied hasn't slowed it down I think it's probably worth putting a long-term if not indef semi on it. Before I do it, I thought I might check with you. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:56, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Callanecc, indef semi applied. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:23, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:29, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Please improve the article Kasamh Se

I have submitted an edit request in the talk page of Kasamh Se having provided some reliable sources to improve upon the Awards Section of the article. Since you protected the article, then being a registered user, it's your very own responsibility to make constructive edits in the article to make it more concise. Is it that you are fond of doing only destructive edits? I have myself watched the award shows in which Kasamh Se was awarded many awards. The Indian soap opera has won about 25 awards which were enlisted in the previous edits but you reverted them claiming the cited sources to be unreliable. If you find the sources to be unreliable, why don't you find yourself reliable sources. If you don't have enough time, then leave the work on other editors who have time. But how could it be? You have simply protected the whole article making worthy editors unable to improve the article. It is quite unbearable that in many articles of Indian soap opera, the awards section do not have even a single reference and even then the award section have not been removed in those articles just like what you did in Kasamh Se. Why don't you concentrate on those articles? One such article is Kahiin to Hoga. Please unprotect the article Kasamh Se so that other editors can also make worthy contributions. If you can't do it, then please do respond to my edit request mentioned on the talk page of Kasamh Se. Vibha Ashan (talk) 10:08, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Vibha Ashan, the article was protected because IPs (I'm guessing those were yours?) were adding poorly sourced information to the article. You've also made some incorrect statements. I have not edited the article and if you want content added, it is your responsibility to provide proper sources. Also, I see that your edit request was answered by two other editors (one of them an admin) who told you why your sources were not reliable. Adding content sourced to blogs is not improving the article. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:47, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

More Need1521 socks

I noticed that you blocked a sock of Need1521 earlier. They've returned as the ips User:95.29.71.206 and User:95.29.143.120 and are now making unconstructive edits to the SPI and to the talk page of me and OneLittleMouse, another user who has contributed to the SPI. Valenciano (talk) 18:39, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Valenciano, socks blocked, SPI page protected. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Bella and the Bulldogs

What's the deal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FauXnetiX (talk • contribs) 00:40, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

FauXnetiX The deal is that you are edit warring on a BLP. You need to stop immediately and discuss using the article's talk page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:44, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Then please head over there and moderate. I've provide sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FauXnetiX (talk • contribs) 00:49, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

FauXnetiX Thank you for opening a discussion. Now please wait for others to reply. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:51, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

And how long do I have to wait before I can re-edit the page? If the only response I get is a revert then the issue becomes that the person(s) don't want the page edited because they don't like the content rather than the content being incorrect.FauXnetiX (talk) 00:54, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

FauXnetiX, give other editors a couple days to reply. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:56, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Question about ANI archiving

Hi NeilN! Quick question. A bot archived three discussions on the ANI page See here, the one that I was involved in hadn't really resulted in a decision on the (imho) offending editor's behavior. Is that usual? Thanks. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:08, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@Onel5969: The bot looks at the date of the last post in the section and if it's older than a certain number of days, decides the conversation is done and archives the section. You can undo the archiving if you really want (don't forget to undo the archive addition as well) and make a new post to that section. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:16, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

I just want to check that I am doing this right

Neil, I just want to make sure that I'm doing this right and not screwing things up. First of all, thanks for the latest round of protections. These vandals aren't going to achieve anything by being so petty, and the site will remain safe, but the temporary protection does help. I suppose that's part of the process.
Second of all, a few more unprotected articles just got hit again, by all new IP addresses: Madhhab (not protected), Quranic literalism, Sirat al-Jahim, Ben Sediq Abdelaziz, File:Ben Sediq Abdelaziz 1.jpg, Template:Sindhi Scholars and The first four Sunni Caliphs and the Sunnah. Either the loser and his/her friends are jumping from computer to computer all to make some kind of a point to me personally (it hasn't been made successfully, all I see is that they have no lives), or they have some means of switching IP addresses rapidly. Either way, they're slowly going around reverting changes I've made, even small ones like putting brackets around the title of a linked Wikipedia article.
My question is: there's no limit on how often I can go to the protection request board, is there? I have no problem doing this indefinitely if it means protecting the encyclopedia and you did say that was the best we can do, but I wanted to check once more that I'm following all the correct protocol. MezzoMezzo (talk) 05:24, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi MezzoMezzo, there's no limit. I've protected the pages you listed above but please revert to the correct version. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:15, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

RAKESHmanu

Hey Neil. This editor, RAKESHmanu, has repeatedly been adding incorrectly licensed movie posters to Bollywood film articles. His entire talk page is filled with and deletion tags and repeated warnings, but he never responds to them and goes on with the same edits. Any suggestion on how to deal with him/her? --Krimuk|90 (talk) 13:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@Krimuk90: Blocked until they start communicating. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:21, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for such a prompt response. :) --Krimuk|90 (talk) 13:22, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

FC Arsenal-Kyiv Kyiv and the dispute tag

Could I ask you to please place the dispute tag below the redirect, not above it? Placing it above makes the redirect non-functional and, worse, puts the page on the Short Pages report. I would normally fix this kind of thing myself, but I don't want to edit through an admin lock like that. - TexasAndroid (talk) 13:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@TexasAndroid: Sorry, done. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:25, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

TY. - TexasAndroid (talk) 13:26, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

St Edward's Church of England School protection

Good decision on the referenced page ! Thanks very much, PKT(alk) 15:51, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@PKT: You're welcome. Hope it helps. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:53, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Louis Belasco

Good block although he needs to be told if he uses the word cunt again he'll be blocked. Shall I do that? Doug Weller (talk) 20:21, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Doug Weller, I'm in the process of writing a note. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

apologies

Didn't mean that, finger slipped. WCM_email 20:21, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

@Wee Curry Monster: No worries, figured that. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:46, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Tajiks page protection

Hi! I've noticed that you just protected the page Tajiks, which, of course, I agree with. The page is undergoing a massive edit-war (you know that, that is the reason you protected). I have no relation to Tajiks or anything similar, but I came to know about this case as a sockpuppet investigation clerk while reviewing Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Beh-nam. The case is basically this: there are two users: Scytsari (alleged sockpuppet in the said case) and Jeppiz who want to add to the infobox images of various persons for whom thay have no sources to prove they are/were Tajiks. I initiated a calmed-down argumented discussion on the talk page (Talk:Tajiks#Who should be included in the infobox and why) trying to resolve the case while the page was protected for the first time (by you). Scytsari took no part in the discussion and openly said that he doesn't want to take part [1]. All editors taking part in the discussion agreed that those images should be removed, except Jeppiz, but even he admitted he has no sources to prove those persons were Tajiks. After the page protection expired, Scytsari immediately re-added the images, while I tried to remove them. Now, you protected the page for the second time, but for the second time, you protected it in the "wrong" state (against the clear consensus, with unsourced images added). Now, I don't give a damn about Tajiks, but I just think that it is bad for Wikipedia to have one such article protected in the state that clearly violates WP:Verifiability and WP:consensus. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:47, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Come on Vanjagenije, as an experienced editor you should know about WP:WRONGVERSION and not to revert three times on an article that has just had full protection lifted. It would have been a lot easier if the SPI was resolved or if you had shown some patience and not reverted three times. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:05, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Whatever, I just thought that unverified content that we agreed on the talk page to remove should be removed. I guess I was wrong. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

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Many thanks

... for dealing with my impersonator so promptly. General Ization ^Talk 00:16, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Thanks for protecting Fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. That saves us all a big headache. GAB (talk) 01:23, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

GAB, you're welcome. Good protection request. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:24, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Your ping

Hi, NeilN. Thanks for the input. Much appreciated. Now that I look at it, my report was a bit of a reach. Sorry. ~Oshwah~ ^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:32, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Derp. I just now realized what you were referring to. In a nutshell, it was my bad. He made an revert here, and I didn't notice his edit summary until after I restored it back. I realized my mistake and left him a message. What I forgot to do was remove my AIV report. Thanks for catching that and I appreciate you for letting me know. ~Oshwah~ ^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:43, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Airport vandal by Indonesian IP

Hello NeilN. Many thanks to you for blocking 202.62.16.77. Do you mind to investigate 111.95.145.6 due to his/her disruptive edits? I believe both IPs belong to the same person. Tafeax (talk) 04:34, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

@Tafeax: Blocked by Glen. If the articles are disrupted again after protection expires, let me know. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 05:37, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

IP block

I wonder if you could kindly re-block User:37.16.140.91, who has been up their old tricks again. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:19, 19 July 2015 (UTC).

Rich, done. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

INKUBUS SUKKUBUS

Hi I am a member of Inkubus Sukkubus, and am requesting that the page be locked so that only registered users can make edits. The page has been under constant attack by what appears to be the same person, using different IP addresses, it had just been re-vandalized I cannot change it myself as I have been told that as a member of the band I am not allowed to. Thanks Vampiredivision (talk) 10:56, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Vampiredivision. The page is under pending changes protection which means readers of the article will never see IP edits unless a registered editor approves them. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:52, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank YouVampiredivision (talk) 17:10, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much.......

....for protecting Wikipedia's long term abuse page of the New Order vandal. The only question left is...

WHAT WAS GOING ON BEFORE PROTECTION??

JG

Malmsimp (talk) 19:15, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

@Malmsimp: Looks like all the disruption was caught. [2] --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:24, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Dead link

I'm working my way though trying to correct dead links, if I don't do it, why don't you do it rather than just keep sending messages and do something useful — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckyredandblack (talk • contribs) 20:01, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Luckyredandblack, replacing a dead link with a link to an escort agency is not useful. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:04, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps you'd like to find another alternative working link or delete the dead link together (and do something useful) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckyredandblack (talk • contribs) 20:06, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Removing spam links is "something useful". —C.Fred (talk) 20:07, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Luckyredandblack, we don't replace dead links with spam or unreliable sources. I hope that's not what you're doing on other articles. I have removed your link once again. The content already has one source. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Finally you understand - that wasn't too hard was it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luckyredandblack (talk • contribs) 20:19, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Bikram Singh Majithia

Hey Neil, can you please add this and the AshokaChadha‎ to your watchlist and/or take any necessary admin action. I came across this during an AfD I was closing and started off uninvolved, but I'm getting involved now after cleaning up a host of advertorial content and reverting IPSocks and sock accounts (Robin Aanalyst). cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 06:51, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

This edit does confirm he's IPsocking, but as far as the birthday, the election commission filing does seem to support the 1976 that was in the article before these editors hijacked the page. Now add to the list Balraj Singh Grewal. Meh, all this comes from poking my nose after closing an afd! —SpacemanSpiff 07:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

@SpacemanSpiff: Blocked the IP for socking, opened an SPI, requesting a CU: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Grandntel --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:23, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks NeilN. I hadn't seen the older account earlier and assumed it was just IPsocking along with the one other account when I posted here, but apparently not. I'll comment on the SPI. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 14:09, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much, let's hope this stops now. —SpacemanSpiff 18:07, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Neil, can you take a look again please? Usual one edit accounts are back. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 13:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Sock blocked, page semied. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:10, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Inevitability

It was inevitable that the yodelling gentleman would resort to legal threats, and the correct decision to block. The challenge is that he has been trying, albeit rather aggressively, to get his own way without seeming to understand what he has been told. He was certainly not here to build an encyclopaedia, so is not a loss to the community. The entire incident does make me concerned, though, that we are not able to handle those who, perhaps, cannot understand what they are told, lumping them together with those who will not understand. I'm not sure which of those categories this gentleman was in. It has seemed to me to be each of them from time to time. Fiddle Faddle 08:20, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

@Timtrent: The "unwilling or unable to understand" situation happens constantly on Wikipedia. Many of my posts yesterday were addressing an editor exhibiting the same behavior. I think a lot of this is caused by the anonymous online nature of Wikipedia and is mirrored in the corporate world where sometimes the only solution to a "neverending email chain" is a face to face meeting where issues can be hashed out in a real-time conversation. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

However much I wish it were not so, I have to agree with you. One issue I have also experienced, and often, is that unfailing politeness can produce amazing abuse. Such is our lot in life. Fiddle Faddle 13:00, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

CSD of User:OdentheGray

Can you please explain (no offense intended) how the content of that page would not be considered nonsense? Even when the spelling is corrected, the sentence on the page does not make sense. Thanks in advance, MopSeeker (talk) 15:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi MopSeeker. G1 is "...consisting purely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history. This does not include poor writing, vandalism and hoaxes (G3), material not in English, badly translated material, etc." In other words, stuff like "bvbgfvxvddc bgffdekj;ol" or "mamamamapapapapa". I would have deleted the page as a test had it been an article but user pages are an entirely different matter. Many users use them as test pages or to keep notes to themselves (sometimes very poorly written) and deleting them is unnecessarily bitey. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:45, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)(edit conflict)@MopSeeker: The challenge with user pages is that they may contain any manner of stuff unless that stuff breaches a policy. This one contains, well, something. Often it is wisest to smile and nod and move away, marvelling at life's rich pageant and tapestry, a phrase I blame an aunt of mine for. You could always ask the editor what they mean, of course. Fiddle Faddle 15:48, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

So G1 applies less strictly to user pages? Does it apply at all? Is the text not incoherent enough for its application? MopSeeker (talk) 01:51, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

MopSeeker, I've never seen an admin use G1 to delete a user page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:14, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Cozi Zuehlsdorff

I didn't do it any thing wrong for that editing Cozi Zuehlsdorff , they need her profile picture , birthdate , birthplace and that's all of it and that's life they need and bio is life to see Renzoolivares (talk) 18:10, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Renzoolivares. The birth date and place need to come from a reliable source and the picture needs to be in the public domain or have a free use license. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:15, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

I have already my licensing picture File:CoziZuehlsdorff6912 and can u unlocked the Cozi Zuehlsdorff profile and I didn't do anything wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renzoolivares (talk • contribs) 19:29, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Renzoolivares, the file you linked to doesn't exist and the article will be unlocked in a couple days. However if you continue to add unsourced information after protection expires you'll be probably eventually blocked. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:36, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Faculty2 long term hoaxer?

Which long term incident / sockpuppeteer / hoaxer is that? Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 21:58, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Georgewilliamherbert, it's the same "Coleman is a professor in Cairo" hoax that has been tried for years. I was writing up an ANI post to get an uninvolved admin to have a look. Should I continue? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Is there a long-term abuse page for it yet? I don't see one; if you know the pattern you're probably best to put it in. I blocked this one now. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:08, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Georgewilliamherbert, excellent idea. If there isn't one, I'll work on creating it. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:10, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Two Lee Corso replacement reverts I've done

Here's the two reverts I've done: [3] (today) [4] (July 6) Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 00:13, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Stevietheman: Thanks, one was blocked earlier and I just blocked the one who popped up today. If I'm not around or you want to report to AIV or ANI, just point to the sockpuppet investigation and indicate the editor should be blocked indefinitely. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:22, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I think the vandalism at Woody Paige is related. It's very similar in style and timing. Can you please protect that article, too? ElKevbo (talk) 06:49, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

ElKevbo, it's the same vandal. The Paige article is semi-protected but if it gets hit again today I'll bump it up to a full. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Another one: User:CodyfoleY with this reversion. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 00:49, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

@Stevietheman: Thanks, blocked. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:40, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Two more users, this time trying to the make the redirect "Leland Corso" the whole article: User:AbzButtlesron and User:TapatThreeZabs. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 08:41, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

@Stevietheman: Thank you. I've blocked the accounts and deleted and salted the redirect as it was created by a blocked user. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:06, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Uninvolved Admin

Hi Neil, I would request you to consider giving your opinion, as an uninvolved Admin, on an ARCA discussion featuring me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Amendment_request:_Imposition_of_an_Arbitration_Enforced_Sanction_against_me_by_Bishonen Soham321 (talk) 00:37, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Soham321, if I have something useful to say, I'll weigh in, but I tend to stay out of AE matters I'm not familiar with. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:20, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

173.63.33.120

Good morning. You blocked this IP recently for edit warring, but he immediately returned to warring the same article (Mary Calvi) as soon as the block expired. I've put a warning on his talk page, but he hasn't shown any particular propensity for heeding warnings -- or even engaging in dialogue. Thanks, DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 15:57, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi DoctorJoeE. I think you've misread the timestamps. I blocked the IP a few hours ago for the first time. I also reblocked the master Truthteller910. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:02, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Oops, sorry about that. I'm a bit late for my second cup of coffee. DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 16:10, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, now I'm apparently a "fucking asshole". I assume this is the same troll, although you're better equipped to determine that than I. DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 17:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@DoctorJoeE: I take it you're not? :-) Page protected, edit summary deleted, user indef blocked per WP:NOTHERE for this and past edits. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:39, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps I'd better check with my wife before answering that. ;-) Appreciate your prompt application of troll spray. Cheers, DoctorJoeE ^{review transgressions}/_{talk to me!} 17:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Edit summary revdel request

Can you hide the last two edit summaries at Lynda Thomas? These summaries appear to make BLP accusations. Thanks! Binksternet (talk) 17:45, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm... It's just the last one edit summary. Binksternet (talk) 17:47, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Binksternet: Yes, got that. Warned user. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:48, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Page protection

Congrats on becoming an admin (If I remember correctly you weren't one a few months ago). Could you take a look at this. Multiple accounts, particularly socks of User:Eulalefty have had an issue with the mention of Ahmadiyya on Muslim population growth for a few months.--Peaceworld 18:16, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Peaceworld111: Thanks, got the bit in June. I've fully protected the page for two days for the edit dispute. That should be enough time to resolve the socking issue (it's not a WP:DUCK for me so a checkuser will be helpful). --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks.--Peaceworld 18:39, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Peaceworld111: CU came back and the socks are blocked so I've unprotected the article. If new socks show up please either report to WP:RFPP (include a link to the SPI) or let me know. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:14, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Protection at Ted Strickland

Thank you for protecting the Ted Strickland article. Any objections if I undo the last edit by the IP, whose continued re-entry of disputed material without discussion is what led to the protection? —C.Fred (talk) 18:19, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@C.Fred: No objections as the article was only semi-protected because of IPs not participating in existing discussion. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I didn't think there would be a problem, but out of courtesy, I wanted to double-check with you first. Thank you! —C.Fred (talk) 18:25, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

John Kasich

Just encountered an editor with a fresh account ( User talk:Jjgoatin )who was vandalizing the John Kasich presidential campaign, 2016 page, asserting Kasich as a Catholic, not an Anglican. I gave him warning. However, I believe he may be the same user whose IP Address 9 ( 70.198.201.59 ) was warring over the same subject on the John Kasich bio article, which you subsequently protected. Spartan7W § 02:21, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

@Spartan7W: Looks like they've stopped. If disruption starts again on that article please let me know or report to WP:RFPP. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

More behavioral evidence to support that theory: Jjgoatin just left this on my Talk page, even though I've had no interaction with that registered user (but I reverted a series of the IP's edits at John Kasich). General Ization ^Talk 11:59, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

This user is working with an IP Address ( User talk:2602:301:77D2:15E0:B113:B6A6:24DB:18F9 ) to bring unsourced, partisan attacks on the page Ohio's 6th congressional district, and will not stop the vandalism. Spartan7W § 21:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hmmm. I don't think so; only two (1 2) of that IP's edits seem problematic to me, though both require citations. This one should actually be pretty easy to source, the other more difficult, since I don't know that "most" public workers have been polled on the question. Many Ohio public workers, however, will not support him, for the reason the IP says. That's probably citable. General Ization ^Talk 21:47, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Removed until it gets a cite. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:50, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

User:Jjgoatin has just added Roman Catholic to the Kasich campaign article without getting consensus. FYI Spartan7W § 23:35, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

@Spartan7W: Just doing up a report. BTW, I moved your post to the right article talk page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 23:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

@Spartan7W: Thanks for the report, and moving the post. My ipad insisted that the talk page for the campaign was that of the biography article. Spartan7W § 23:41, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

This user is going to erupt another edit war on Ohio's 6th congressional district. I removed his reference of gerrymandering, which could not be credibly sourced, and added info in the History section referencing the 2010 election and redistricting as a result of the 2010 census. You can see the talk page where I posted on this matter. I don't want to get in a slippery slope to an edit war on this, but he is unrelenting. Are there any blocks which can be made on this user between now and decision on the John Kasich matter? Spartan7W § 00:22, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Spartan7W: Because I became involved in content matters I cannot use my admin tools any more with respect to these articles per WP:INVOLVED. I have added an extra note to the edit warring report. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:58, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Good Adriano gabriel (talk) 11:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for unblock naveen. Your an intelligent also Wikipedia systems is very powerful. Article.adder.kerala (talk) 18:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your 'Al Albani' page, can you add a picture of him please? JazakAllah khayr :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.41.66.161 (talk) 08:38, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Offensive sockfarm

Hi Neil, are you online? There is some kind of high-speed sockfarm attacking Bishonen's pages and posts: [5], [6]. Probably more to come. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Those are Kutsuit's socks. I wish she had better things to do than harass Bish. - NQ (talk) 20:29, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It's only User:Kutsuit, no biggie, in fact, yawn. My talk is semi'd so she attacks my edits. Finally I've found a use for the "rollback all" script! Neil, if you're there, and you other guys, please take a look at my post at the bottom of ANI, it's more important. I think it's Randi himself. I'm all of a flutter. :-) Bishonen | talk 20:33, 22 July 2015 (UTC).

Bishonen, I semied one of your subpages for two days. And it's funny, the Randi article is on my watchlist and I almost reverted the edit I highlighted at ANI when it was made. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:45, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thanks for stopping the edit-war on the sharia page Code16 (talk) 15:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Code16: Not sure what I did besides one talk page post but thanks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:18, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Revdel

When you get a second, would you mind doing a revdel at [7]? Falls into the grossly offensive category. Thanks! agtx 18:14, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Agtx: Done. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:16, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Story on List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN page

Hi NeilN, I'm a UK journalist looking to tell the story of the hard-working people editing the List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN page more often than the pages for Barack Obama, Hitler and Britney Spears. I know you're a major part of the task, particularly protecting the page from vandalism as admin, and I'd like to highlight the great work you're doing, and to learn more about what motivates you. If you'd be interested in talking, my email address is stokel _at_ gmail _dot com_. 2.26.53.169 (talk) 18:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Woody Paige

I noticed you fully protected this page due to vandalism; however I think this was a bit unnecessary, and that semi-protection would have been sufficient. Would you consider lowering the page protection level there to semi? Everymorning talk 00:30, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Everymorning, both Lee Corso and Woody Paige have been fully protected (Corso by another admin) because of a vandal who has hundreds of accounts. He makes ten edits in his sandbox and then attacks the articles. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jaredgk2008 and archives for some of the accounts. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:37, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Censorship Incident Report

Factual information on current actions of California's sitting governorJerry Brown is being censored in wikipedia.

Information being censored:Jerry Brown informed the Catholic News Service during his visit to Vatican that Junípero Serra's statue will stay on United States Capitol.

I cannot add to what others have already told you. You're going to have to use Talk:Jerry Brown to gain consensus for your addition. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

References

Using Response Helper?!

Hey I used the response helper since someone (Redrose64) wouldn't help protect a page and told to paste there! —73.47.37.131 14:47, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Redrose64 was correct. I've declined your requests as we don't protect pages preemptively. Please see WP:PROTECT for the policy. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:20, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

I know the policies genius all I want is a protected Godzilla (franchise) page to avoid any unnecessary editing to unregistered users, okay?! — 73.47.37.131 17:16, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

If you know all the policies then you should know we don't protect articles to "avoid any unnecessary editing to unregistered users". Please stop asking. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:20, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

give me work

give me work or tell me how to do it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.253.26.140 (talk)

That article was created by a blocked editor. If you are that editor, see standard offer. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:49, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

YGM

Hello, NeilN. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

-- WV ● ✉ ✓ 18:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Disruption

You already warned this user, but they continue unabated with disruptive edits (blanking). Rahibsaleem (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - Cwobeel (talk) 04:22, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Also posting on my talk page, using a different editor's signature: [8] ??? - Cwobeel (talk) 04:30, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

@Cwobeel: Added various warnings to the editor's talk page. They're already on thin ice. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:50, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Using a different editor's signature is WP:SIGFORGE. Besides warning them, you're entitled to replace it with a clean version. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:00, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Filmography

Hello, I am usually sports related editor but I'm interested in bollywood as well because I'm from Nepal. I had one question how many films does one actor require to have its separate filmography page. Seen long filmography list in many articles so asking you. I want to edit but according to rules. Cheers!!! NextGenSam619^t@lk 17:15, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi NextGenSam619. The number of films is irrelevant. The actor has to meet our notability guidelines. See WP:ENT and WP:BIO. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:19, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Nanak Shah Fakir

Hi NeielN

I put the request to semi protect the page * Nanak Shah Fakir (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), today and even last week also, which was declined, due to not enough IP destruction, I have the special request on this, there are some people on the internet trying hard to put the wrong information about the movie Title, I have seen recently there is the user from IP address 173.71.50.211, trying alot to revert back the information about the title with the wrong one, can you please aprove to semi protect this page, This movie is about to release soon with the proper aproval from head of religious group world.

please let me know,

Seeking your positive response in this regards

Best Kulvinder Singh 17:31, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Kulvinders, I have declined your request again. Please read our protection policy, specifically WP:SEMI: "Semi-protection should not be used as a preemptive measure against vandalism that has not yet occurred, nor should it be used to privilege registered users over unregistered users in (valid) content disputes." Issues with one editor can be reported to WP:AIV or WP:ANI. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:39, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

thank you NeilN, thats what i would like to know otherwise how to block that IP. thank you once again

René Bazinet Photos

Please refrain from using my photos on his Wikipedia page. I wrote a very comprehensive bio and added the images I took, of René Bazinet, on Wikimedia. Then due to Wikipedia policies, involving lack of published references, was compelled to remove the entire bio, which now only remains on the IMDb site. I do not want my pictures used without my permission. Thank you for your compliance with my wishes that no one use these photos, on Wikipedia or anywhere else, without my authorized permission to do so. Blythe Spirit (talk) 08:35, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Replied here. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

René Bazinet Photos

I'll ask you once again to please refrain from using my pictures of René Bazinet, without my consent. Common courtesy and consideration should be exercised in such cases and the ownership of a photographer’s work should be respected. I had previously composed and posted a comprehensive profile/bio, of René, only to experience others making inappropriate edits and finally being notified by an administrator that due to a lack of published references it didn’t meet Wikipedia standards, in any event. I had originally added the images, which are copyrighted, to accompany my composition, but was under the misconception that others could only use them with my permission. The policies regarding permission and image utilization were ambiguously stated and I did not interpret them correctly, as it turned out. Neither was I aware that once they were added to Wikimedia I relinquished the opportunity to remove them, from that site. However, after a talk with my lawyer, who assured me that the Wikimedia organization is not entitled to keep them, rather than file a contentious lawsuit in order to protect my work - by demanding their removal - I decided not to press the issue. I’m sure you can understand and appreciate why I wouldn’t want my photographic work to be used by unauthorized people to represent their text, especially, after I deleted all of my contributions, from the René Bazinet page. Thanking you, in advance, for honoring my wishes to cease using the images, I took of René Bazinet. I'm disinclined to give my express approval, of their use, for the above mentioned reasons. Blythe Spirit (talk) 13:42, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Replied here. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

A chuckle for you

Hello N. As I scanned the edits of the IP you blocked I was afraid that I had read them too fast that this character was going to show up. I hope that you have a pleasant week. MarnetteD|Talk 18:29, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

MarnetteD, ha, you're right! And I had no idea the spelling for Keaton's character was Betelgeuse. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:43, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I hadn't seen it spelled that way before either - well by that I mean in relation to the film - even as a kid I liked that spelling for the star. It is kinda fun to read the discussion that began in 2008 about this. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:39, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

baahubali box office

I request you to intervene in Baahubali movie box office collections. Actually the movie is primarily a Telugu movie shot simultaneously in Tamil and it is bilingual. It is also dubbed in Hindi and Malayalam too. The story, entire cast and crew including production house is from Telugu. It grossed around Rs 401 crores in 15 days. But it is included in Tamil list of highest grossing films. The Telugu version alone grossed Rs 236 crores The Hindi and Malayalam versions ( dubbed from Telugu) grossed around 120 crores. The Tamil version grossed around Rs 55 crore from India and rest of the world. The above information is from official trade analysts. So I kindly request you to remove from Tamil list which even didn't gross 15% of collections.

baahubali box office

I request you to intervene in Baahubali movie box office collections. Actually the movie is primarily a Telugu movie shot simultaneously in Tamil and it is bilingual. It is also dubbed in Hindi and Malayalam too. The story, entire cast and crew including production house is from Telugu. It grossed around Rs 401 crores in 15 days. But it is included in Tamil list of highest grossing films. The Telugu version alone grossed Rs 236 crores The Hindi and Malayalam versions ( dubbed from Telugu) grossed around 120 crores. The Tamil version grossed around Rs 55 crore from India and rest of the world. The above information is from official trade analysts. So I kindly request you to remove from Tamil list which even didn't gross 15% of collections. - padukati raju — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padukati raju (talk • contribs)

Note that User:Padukati raju has been informed of the discussion of this topic Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films#RfC:_How_should_we_classify_Baahubali. Why they have chosen to come here rather than participate there is unclear. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:29, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I'd recommend the list page's protection be upped to semi from pending for a bit, maybe a couple of days. There's a hideous amount of edit-warring from IPs and others over this, and pending is barely slowing it down. Just my two cents. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 19:40, 26 July 2015 (UTC) Plus I'm suspecting some puppetry of the sock and/or meat kind may be occurring as well. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - General Health ‖ 19:42, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

@TheRedPenOfDoom and Ebyabe: I have put back the semi that was dropped after the full expired. I don't think we need an editnotice if the semi is there? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Elon Musk

Could we get a Facebook fansite blacklisted? An IP keeps adding one, which there is no indication is official. The same IP tried adding a Peter Capaldi Facebook fansite a while back, and it did get blacklisted. Then they said that there was a malfunction or something, when it was all about it being a blocked fansite. They were also doing something similar at Annastacia Palaszczuk. It seems to be the IP's raison d'etre or something. I put in a request at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist, but perhaps it could be nudged? Thanks and cheers! :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 00:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

@Ebyabe: I'd have to get up to speed on the blacklist process but I've blocked the IP for two weeks for repeating the same behavior that led to the first block. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:58, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, that'll do. Yet I was so looking forward to them calling me a vandal again. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 01:01, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

• FYI Special:Contributions/202.86.32.122 is WP:UNID and RBI should be quickly and quietly applied. Johnuniq (talk) 07:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Possible speedies?

Hello again N. I am wondering if this Robert M'mbololo Mwakangalu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and this User:Mmbololo/sandbox/Robert M'mbololo Mwakangalu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) are eligible for speedy deletion. Two different user names but look to be the same person. While I have nominated article for speedy before I just couldn't decide which one applied to these. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 14:37, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

MarnetteD, the first deleted as a WP:A10 and the sandbox page deleted with the same reason. Not a good sign that the Obama article is being copied to a page with an "African" name. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:49, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Good to know for future reference. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:51, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

can you look at that liks

Hardy Sandhus songs Soch AND JOKER AND MANY OTHER and Navjit Buttar.

Navjit Buttar have his fan sir why he can't get his wikipeia. we are fan of him Navjit Buttar

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/life-style/world-wide/80189.html http://www.celestexptech.com/previews/navjit/about-navjit-buttar.php http://punjabupdate.com/videos/patiala-peg-diljit-dosanjh-full-music-video-speed-records http://punjabnewsexpress.com/news/35713-hardy-sandhus-single-track-joker-launched-.aspx http://simplybhangra.com/news/bhangra-news/9109-video-rajveer-singh-note.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.253.64.29 (talk)

Judging from your IP, I've already answered your question above. If you are not the blocked editor, please see WP:ENT and WP:BIO for notability criteria. You may want to use the WP:AFC process to create a draft article other editors will review. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk page

Could you remove this comment (below) from my talk page? It's meant for someone else. Thanks.

Create an account?[edit] Any chance you could create an account? I protected Generation X because of the confirmed sock puppetry [1] but that mean you're blocked from editing as well. --NeilN talk to me 23:38, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 18:05, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Never mind, now I know what you meant. 2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 18:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Will you please look at?

I think we are in need of a block hammer. You fully protected Mary Kom (film) a few days back, the issues are still ongoing. Let me give you a few examples, [9] this section started by Krimuk is saying there is a problem with the reviews and that they are mixed giving several sources to show that the reviews are indeed mixed. Here User:Cyphoidbomb edits away the POV and it is deceptively changed back under the edit summary "clean" and reinserted another time again [10]. It's the same concerns raised on the talkpage under Mixed Reviews and Edit Warring and their userpage. It is also one of the more severe cases of WP:OWN I've seen in a while as well. Berating another user for nominating the article as a FA, [11], [12] and continued through to the talkpage of the article and eventually ends with [13] all the while with the edit warring, NPOV and attacks ongoing. On a side note by the block log it doesn't appear this is the first issue thaey've had with the FA process so the problem might extend to that subject area. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 00:27, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Hell in a Bucket, a block hammer is only going to come courtesy of ANI as the editor, while acting a bit young, is editing in good faith. I've tried to reinforce Cassianto's points here. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:06, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into, I've seen the concerned inquiries before and we still arrived here but maybe the last two will do the trick. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 03:11, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

@Hell in a Bucket: One adjustment: though I did remove the "unanimous" language in that edit, there was another "unanimous" in the article which I did not see until later. I don't think it was snuck back in. Just in case that helps mend any negative perceptions. Regards all, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Shelbychevette and Lukeno94

You recently blocked Shelbychevette (talk · contribs) for a 5RR edit war on Chevrolet Corvette (C1) (and others). Fair enough. Yet you don't seem to have taken any similar action against Lukeno94, his adversary in all this, the instigator of these changes, a much more experienced editor who ought to know better, and who seems to be winding up everyone (myself included) at WT:CARS. One of the issues he has kicked off there is precisely this removal of engine information. You even felt the need to warn him to not term other people's edits as vandalism.

Why block only the less experienced, and no more involved, party? Andy Dingley (talk) 01:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Andy Dingley, given that this editor knew enough about edit warring (without it ever being mentioned on their talk page) to start filling out an WP:ANEW report, I do not think you can consider them as "new". I also offered to unblock (twice) if they started to discuss their edits. As for the talk page, I see this note by another admin, "First, please knock off the chest thumping, gentlemen." Seems there's winding up on both sides. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:55, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

With the advice to follow Eric Corbett's lead on behaviour? Come off it! Andy Dingley (talk) 02:01, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

If you think this editor is a sock, then file an SPI and CU them. They hardly seem familiar with ANEW, looking at that filing. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Andy Dingley, it looks like a perfectly fine start to me, to be followed with diffs. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:08, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Fortunately you had them blocked within the minute, conveniently avoiding scrutiny of the pair of them.

This isn't about Shelbychevette, it's about how Luke can join in multiple cases of 5RR across articles, to push a change that is already causing pushback at WT:CARS, and he doesn't even get a warning. Edit warring is edit warring. Being "right" is not an excuse, and it's not even a credible claim in this case. Luke was pushing a single-handed change that no-one else wants. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Andy Dingley, then that's a case for WP:DRR. Note I blocked for disruptive editing, not edit warring. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Andy Dingley, I see you've filed a case at ANI against Luke for his subsequent edits. What are you looking from me here? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Then (to rephrase only slightly) why let Luke off from DRR? Andy Dingley (talk) 02:24, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Andy Dingley, as I said before, I twice offered to unblock the other editor if they would start discussing. If that happened, I would expect Luke to join in the discussion. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:28, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

As the block (and my sockpuppeting as Shelbychevette!) has been mentioned there, you should be aware of Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Lukeno94_-_out_of_hand.3F Andy Dingley (talk) 11:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	For your excellent work at requests for page protection. You've been going like a machine! Cheers, ceradon (talk • contribs) 05:01, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Revdel help on my talk page

User is upset that I removed their articles that should have stayed AFD'ed for lack of notability. Need some revdel before it turns into harrassment. Thanks. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 05:05, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Reported user

The user has deleted edits based on the fact that it is not written well, I told the user to fix it if they believe it to be, but they refuse to do so. Instead they resort to deleting the information. (11:27, 28 July 2015 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.107.200 (talk)

This is a content dispute, not vandalism. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 11:31, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

If you can, then could you ask them to fix the information that they think is incorrect becuase they seem they don't want to listen to IP users. (124.180.107.200 (talk) 11:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC))

According to their edit summaries, TheRedPenOfDoom thinks the info does not belong in the article. This is something that can be discussed on the article's talk page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 11:37, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Well that's not what they said, there is a source provided. They do not think that it is worded properly, here is what they said, "Still malformatted, still undue and still inappropriate tone". (124.180.107.200 (talk) 11:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC))

undue is a reference to WP:UNDUE. Essentially, he feels the info is too trivial to be added to the article. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 11:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh okay, sorry about that then. (124.180.107.200 (talk) 11:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC))

Not your fault. You can't be expected to know wikijargon. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 11:53, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Okay then, thanks for the clarification. (124.180.107.200 (talk) 11:55, 28 July 2015 (UTC))

Interfaces

Hi Neil, are there any interfaces (a la Twinkle, for instance) that you'd recommend to a new admin to help make responding to AIV and RPP requests a little easier? Or are we supposed to remember all those various approved/declined/question templates and slap them in manually? Danke, sir. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Cyphoidbomb! First of all, congrats! Second, I say a thank you to MusikAnimal every day. Have a look half way down User_talk:NeilN/Archive_24#Thanks_everyone to see scripts you can add. Those, along with Twinkle, make most of RFPP and AIV just button pushing (once you figure out what action to take!). --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Aw shucks, glad to be of service! :) For other nifty scripts, you might have a look at User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/SpamUserPage for deleting pages/blocking in one swing, and User:Timotheus Canens/spihelper.js if you plan on working at WP:SPI, and finally User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD.js for closing AfDs. Welcome aboard Cyphoidbomb! — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:36, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Ah, brilliant! Thanks Neil, and thanks also, Musik! I hope I don't fuck everything up. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:37, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey MusikAnimal, while you're here... got anything to rollback hundreds/thousands of edits? I have Mass Rollback but that opens a tab for every rollback and some bozo just did this. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I didn't realize mass rollback opened up everything in tabs... we can do better than that! I can put an API-driven mass rollback script on the to-dos. As for this bozo, we've already taken care of those contribs, right? — MusikAnimal ^talk 19:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

MusikAnimal I use this. And yes, all the contribs are rolled back. First time I've seen my quad-core i7 pegged at 100% --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:57, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I always knew that opening up each tab was a silly way to do things. I inherited that script from another user and was just always too lazy to look up how to do it properly. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 21:21, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: This should be much better, I think. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 04:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Writ Keeper, may be obvious but the new version will still only perform rollbacks when the current version of the article is by the vandal, right? It'll still fail on articles that have already been reverted? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks Writ Keeper! — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:53, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Yup. This script just calls Wikipedia's rollback function; it will succeed and fail in exactly the same situations that clicking on the rollback link does. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 15:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-unusual request...

Hello again, NeilN! I have a somewhat off-the-wall request: Is there any way I can "see" (or have "sent" to me) the last version of the code of the now-deleted template {{CUE}}? (I have an experiment I'd like to run in "Userspace" using this now-deleted template as my "guinea pig"...) I would have asked the original deleting Admin, Plastikspork, but they have recently retired from Wikipedia, and I really couldn't figure out who else to go to for this request! Thanks for any assistance you can provide on this! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism

Why hasn't anybody given any attention to my report of user:178.168.19.68 in Administrators Intervention Against Vandalism? 2602:306:3357:BA0:2D5F:12D9:78A5:49FA (talk) 22:18, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I suspect because none of the reviewing admins can tell if their contributions are vandalism. Can you specifically point out how they're vandalizing? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

They blanked a page called Template:HC Sochi roster after getting a final warning from user:Pokechu22. 2602:306:3357:BA0:2D5F:12D9:78A5:49FA (talk) 22:27, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

They are also constantly adding unsourced content. 2602:306:3357:BA0:2D5F:12D9:78A5:49FA (talk) 22:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but given their other edits, that might have been a mistake. Let me post to the hockey project to see what they say. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:34, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Public Storage

The original article was authored by someone in a legal dispute with the company. I now have a financial connection with the article-subject and have proposed a draft on the Talk page here that I think would be more of a legitimate, well-rounded page. The previously involved editors haven't responded yet and I wasn't sure if this kind of thing would interest you. If you feel we should wait longer for previously involved editors that would be fine too. Smartse said on his Talk page that the draft "looks good", but he sort of indicated he wouldn't do anything with it, without checking the sources, which he indicated he is unlikely to spend the time to do. It's always a bit fickle with this kind of thing, because I'm essentially bothering editors about a page they don't really have a genuine interest in. If you have time, to take a look, let me know. CorporateM (Talk) 23:38, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Infidel vandal

Don't you think a user who has shown no inclination of being productive, has told one user to die in a hole, and has actually asked to be blocked deserves longer than a31 hour block? ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 00:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: You need to tell me what user you're talking about please. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:19, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, its User:136.167.211.87. He kept vandalising the Infidel article and actually asked to be banned. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 00:23, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@Editorofthewiki: It's an IP address which has never edited before and is assigned to a school. The person who had that IP address is probably long gone. If they come back, and use the same IP address, then the next block will be longer. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:34, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism is haram :) Hell in a Bucket (talk) 00:37, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Request

Hello NeilN and thank you for deleting my user page. I believe we may have come to a misunderstanding; I wanted to delete my user page and create a new one, not protect it. If you could please remove the protection tag on my user page, I'd appreciate it. Sorry if I couldn't explain it properly earlier. Best, Vacationlandman (talk) 04:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Vacationlandman  Done --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:47, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

need for help

i need help review on Navjit Buttar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Needreview (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 04:21, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films

Unable to understand the full scenario/subject, and contributing unknowingly in not keeping wikipedia neutral, unable to understand bunch of users' biased position and giving in or accepting just because some set of editors are big in number. Providing users like Ricky81682 who blatantly edit the same article to their terms, going on to revert the page more than three times on the same day, please log. Spend time on the article and understand what is going on, do not follow people who feed you information only then would you realise, that the ones who feed you information are doing so wrongly, the ones who are confident that they are right would not reach out to administrators unless like now where the article is locked and biased users are given full power to edit the articles as they wish. I seriously doubt your abilities as an administrator.

Please see the sections

• Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films#Tamil_Films_misrepresenting_information
• Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films#Film_language_versus_industry
• Baahubali is a Bilingual

Have you ever thought why the article needs to be locked ??? My opinion: Majority of people do not like what is on the article and know it is false and are constantly editing it. And the minority few who want to control the article need power hence contact admins to lock it down.

Marchoctober (talk) 07:45, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Insulting people and calling them incompentent. There's a term for that. Yep, that's going to get people to see things your way. Or maybe not so much? --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 12:07, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Replied here. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:42, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I have replied here Marchoctober (talk) 17:03, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I offer a profuse apology for calling NeilN in competent, In this case my actions were incompetent as I did not know the full scenario of his past records and based my comment on just one of his edits. I was very disturbed and got very emotional in the process ended up using strong terms, I think its the need for attention towards injustice happening towards the article which made me take the drastic step to call someone terms like incompetent, I deeply regret my actions and I am shameful of them. Marchoctober (talk) 17:26, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

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Is this edit wrong on the talk page ? My comment is being hidden and the users say I should not attack other users personally as seen on my talk page. I have read that page and it says that I can put my comments if I back myself with diffs which I did and I never made any personal statements about the user's except the user's edit and backed myself with diffs. None of the sections described here are being violated by me, in fact I feel the need to express myself on talk page, and my edits should not be hidden, there is evidence in my edits which have diffs of other user which are being ignored.
Marchoctober (talk) 21:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Marchoctober, yes that post should have been hidden. That edit, plus these, [14], [15] indicate a battlefield mentality. You need to accept there's no "great injustice" happening on a list of highest grossing films. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:36, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

okay :( Marchoctober (talk) 03:40, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

i need review tag on navjit buttar by admins

i need review tag on User:Needreview/Navjit Buttar for geting review by admins

I see that from above. While I've commented, please be more patient. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

thanks for your comment and time i will working on it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.253.24.32 (talk) 13:46, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Bajrangi Bhaijaan Fake Collections

Sir, Alot Of Vandalism Happening on Bajrangi Bhaijaan Movie Page.... Alot Of Salman khan fans posting Inauthentic References and changing Box office to 470+..Alot Of Indian news papers making articles based on this Fake Collections which is Question the credibility of Wikipedia.. You have fully protected the article and am glad for that but you haven't changed the collection number and you protected it with the fake number locked in.. This is the Authentic Source which says Bajrangi Bhaijaan movie didn't even cross 400 Crores.. Kindly.. I beg.. Check and change the number and then protect it.. I I beg your pardon.. I love Wikipedia.. i don't want it to lose its credibility cause of few People

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/bajrangi-bhaijaan-box-office-collection-salman-khan-film-rs-350-crore-blockbuster-now-kabir-khan-baahubali-competition-collections-money-earnings-ss-rajamouli-prabhas-anushka-shetty/1/454605.html

http://m.ibtimes.co.in/bajrangi-bhaijaan-worldwide-box-office-collection-beats-chennai-express-baahubali-salman-overseas-640840 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santhoshlee1 (talk • contribs) 16:01, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Santhoshlee1. You need to use Talk:Bajrangi Bhaijaan to discuss this. Ricky81682 has already opened a discussion there. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

No Gun Ri

Hello,

Hope you're doing well. I am currently engaged in a lengthy dispute resolution process over at No Gun Ri Massacre, which has seen a very heated debate between Cjhanley and WeldNeck which has seethed for years.

Part of it revolves around a sourcing dispute, namely, the credibility of the U.S. No Gun Ri Review Report, the initial AP reports (particularly the credibility of certain eyewitnesses), and of historian Robert Bateman. In general, the page has been a battleground, with frequent personal attacks, accusations of POV, bold edits against consensus, and so on, although it has calmed down as of late. It is important to note that Cjhanley is in fact one of the AP reporters who initially broke the No Gun Ri story, and was awarded the Pulitzer Prize; also, WeldNeck has accused him of a conflict of interest. Both editors have compiled extensive lists of their grievances, and have dragged one another to ANI: [16][17][18][19][20] WeldNeck also attacked Cjhanley as a sockpuppeteer: [21]. Neither editor is blameless, to say the least. I filed a DRN quite some time ago.

For some time, I, along with Timothyjosephwood, Wikimedes, and Irondome have attempted to mediate, and we have successfully imposed an unofficial "freeze" on editing the page without prior proposals. The page has been fairly quiet for a while. Unfortunately, there has recently been some adding and reverting of content, as the "freeze" has begun to thaw out:[22][23][24][25] I would appreciate any help an experienced editor such as yourself could offer. If you are interested, I can also provide some sources to provide background, although some can also be found on the page's external links category.

Thanks very much,

GAB (talk) 01:50, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

• Neil! Guess what! You're not the first one to try! Good luck, pal. This is quite something. Maybe you can begin by banning the two main editors from the article... Drmies (talk) 01:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Because of reasons

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		I know you've probably received plenty of these in nine years, but everybody deserves recognition for their work. Your responses have been fair, even handed and always very swift. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:37, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank MezzoMezzo. But really, you should be getting one of these for your vigilance. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Silent Generation

Come on Neil...why did you wipe-out my hard work to correct the fabulously misinformed error comprising what amount still to only a stub requiring time, effort and expansion?

I see that you have great Wiki experience, dedication and power...but you're are no walking encyclopedia. You're text on the Silent Generation is just plain wrong...it's narrow and drawn from only one hardly accepted resource.

I had only just begun to repair the page and build a proper body of information. Really, just because you've more power doesn't mean that you've acted either rightly, in the interest of knowledge or for the benefit of readers. The Wiki is build from the contributions of many people, simply protecting your ignorance like a childish wizard on the watch with his magic wand does not pass for decent editorial work.

Now, really, you own me a civil apology, restoration of my words...and, frankly, assistance to me with some Wiki issue I need to learn in order to properly straighten-out this page. (e.g., changing it's title from 'Silent' to 'Great' Generation) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Y.Woodman.Brown (talk • contribs) 05:19, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Y.Woodman.Brown, please read my talk page post. [26] --NeilN ^{talk to me} 05:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

User:BickinBackBeinBool

Hi NeilN. User:BickinBackBeinBool resumed vandalism of exact same edit as 78.179.85.32 at The Scent of Green Papaya. I smell a duck. For your immediate actions, please. And a suggestion of pp if it qualifies. Optakeover^(Talk) 20:22, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Optakeover: Thanks. User blocked and I'll watch the article for further disruption. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey NeilN, the vandal strikes back. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Scent_of_Green_Papaya&oldid=673847824. Requesting pp and range block if warranted as well. I'm not sure if there is any other way to deter SPA vandalism other than that. Optakeover^(Talk) 22:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Optakeover: Already taken care of. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Got it. Thank you very much. Optakeover^(Talk) 22:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Muhammed Chaudhry Removal

Hi, i recognized the Conflict of Interest and wished to edit it, but Nawlinwiki has deleted it and I cannot edit it. Can you please let me know if there is a way I can get it back so I can rework it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammadsvef (talk • contribs) 20:54, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Mohammadsvef: No, we don't host copyright violations or press releases. And what do you mean you "recognized the conflict of interest"? If you have a conflict, you must abide by our terms of use. "Note that Wikipedia's terms of use require disclosure of your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation." --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Uh Ok where can a disclose that info? Im just a summer intern.

@Mohammadsvef: From our TOU

You must make that disclosure in at least one of the following ways:

• a statement on your user page,
• a statement on the talk page accompanying any paid contributions, or
• a statement in the edit summary accompanying any paid contributions.

It is highly unlikely you will be able to create an acceptable article by tomorrow. Please read our notability guidelines for biographies. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:12, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

I will make the statement on my user page. And not be abel to finish it?Why wouldn't I? There isn't a huge wealth of information on him, but I feel like there is enough to constitute a page that is informative for anyone who wished to know more about our organization. I understand that it should be unbiased, and I would remove any statement that expressed personal opinion, just other people's stated opinions such as Obama's quote. What else do you want me to do, make up a negative opinion so I can show two differing perspectives? I was lazy the first time and just copied and pasted everything. I will go through and read the interviews people have taken of him, and use those as sources. Your goal as an administrator for wikipedia is to help spread knowledge, no matter how prominent. Why can't you help me without bringing your criticism into it? Because that seems to be biased, surprising since you dedicate a great portion of your time to this website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammadsvef (talk • contribs) 21:22, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Mohammadsvef: Given that you are being paid to do this, and your first attempt read like a press release, you really should be using the WP:AFC process and creating a draft that will be reviewed by an experienced editor. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok thank you for the link, I will use it. But other than it sounding like a press release, I don't see why you couldn't specifically tell me what you didn't approve of, and not a general rule, like a specific section. Also, can I at least have my sources back? Of course I can't use the administration page as a source again but the other three I think were valid sources, they were news organizations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammadsvef (talk • contribs) 21:34, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

@Mohammadsvef: Your sources [27] [28] [29] [30] --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohammadsvef (talk • contribs) 21:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Is BoxOfficeIndia a trusted source for wikipedia ?

I've noticed BoxOfficeIndia is the quoted source for box office collections for a number of hindi movies(including PK). Why are their numbers for Bajrangi Bhaijaan not being considered authentic then ? http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Details/art_detail/bajrangibhaijaanclosinginon500croreworldwide#.VbsXEROqr_i Is there an exhaustive list of trusted sources for box office collections for Indian movies ? Sbhowmik89 (talk) 06:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Are there any third-party sources commenting on the website? What are their editorial standards? You may want to post your query on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard for more input. Elspamo4 (talk) 06:47, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm not claiming their authenticity. I know as much about them as you. I'm just wondering why they are considered a source for certain articles and not for others ? Sbhowmik89 (talk) 07:07, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sbhowmik89. Elspamo4 steered you correctly. WP:RSN is where you should ask this. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Sbhowmik89 I would also take anything related to Indian cinema box office totals with a grain of salt. Major corruption. Most of the totals are little more than estimates. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

IP sockpuppet of banned User:Vote (X) for Change returns

See Special:Contributions/82.3.169.164. Thanks, JoeSperrazza (talk) 11:04, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Blocked. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:12, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Disruptively editing at calendar articles again. See Special:Contributions/86.134.217.6, Talk:Hebrew_calendar#More on Cheshvan vs. Marcheshvan, & [31]. Thanks, JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

86.174.161.26

Binksternet seems to believe that this IP is the same as the cause of death vandal. What do think about this? Dustin (talk) 16:51, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

@Dustin V. S.: Yes, I agree. They're already blocked for a week for edit warring and it's likely they'll just hop to a different IP. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:56, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

User leaves me an "edit warring" message after nothing of the sort occurred

I'm not sure if policy means anything can be done about it, but I just wanted to let you know that I've gotten an edit warring message from User:Jytdog only after one friendly good-faith revert. What makes it worse is that he reverted back to an incorrect text, where he could have easily verified that the newer version reflected information in the article Jerry Abramson. I'm not sure what I did to deserve such treatment. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:36, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Follow-up: Jytdog has issued a retraction. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:59, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

@Stevietheman: That's good. I know it's never pleasant getting slapped with a template for edits you believe are good. Often, it's a good idea to engage the other editor, to find out what they're thinking. Sometimes it's a mistake, a misunderstanding or they're just having a bad day. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:18, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for blocking User:RichardNorfolk. I hope we are able to expand Yishai Schlissel significantly in the next few days.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:38, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship (3nd nomination)

I'd recommend you speedy close the nomination under WP:SNOW then. - NQ (talk) 02:04, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

NQ, just did. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:06, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

NQ or anyone else wondering as to the reason: [32]. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:17, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

The close was a no brainer. I restored the notice since the discussion was ongoing and wasn't closed yet. - NQ (talk) 02:33, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Re:MFD

I respect your decision to close the MFD. I also direct your attention to the our IAR policy:

Wikipedia:Ignore all rules: If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.

All the same, I proved to myself something I needed to prove: no one gives a damn. Having re-learned that lesson, I will fall back into place. Sorry for the inconvenience I caused. I'm not sure why I did this or what I thought I could achieve. Please accept my apology. Sincerely, TomStar81 (Talk) 02:34, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

TomStar81, have you not looked at the myriad of recent discussions about reforming RFA? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:40, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

They talk and talk, and nothing is every accomplished. Ten long years of "blah blah blah" and what have we to show for it at RFA? Nothing. Not one God-bleeping thing. Actions speak louder than words, but by the time the Wikipedia chapter of the League of Nations figures that out it will be far too late to do anything. It always is. If this had worked, if we were to force the shut down of the process then evolution dictates that with the sudden need to evolve we would have a new process in a few months that everyone could have a chance to weigh in on, and more importantly one that would be free of its predecessor, but no one sees the issue from this perspective. I don't know about you, but I would have liked to have looked back on this at New Years time and remembered that thanks to a Bold action we were able to do something, rather than look back in a decade and realizing that nothing has yet been done to fix or reform the process. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:47, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

TomStar81, the atmosphere at RFA has improved from what it was a few years ago. If you want "no new admins until RFA is reformed" then you will have to start a RFC. Yes, I know you think of RFCs but people are going to disagree with your proposal. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:53, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

I would have it no other way :) How terrible the world would be if there was no one with an opposing view point, for in our species we judge what perfection we find by the shades of imperfection we see. I have always admire that in you, that you and I may disagree on these matters, for in our difference of opinions I find some small measure of peace. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:59, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Apparent sockpuppet of a user you blocked earlier

Hi NeilN. Earlier today, you blocked Allstartrick14, a user who I had reported at WP:AIV for repeatedly adding unsourced info to baseball player articles. It looks like this user has now made a sock account, Allstartrick13, to attempt to evade their block. Just thought I should make you aware of this. --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 02:54, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

A guy saved by Jesus, thanks. Sock blocked indef, master's block extended to one week. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:58, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for taking care of it. --A guy saved by Jesus (talk) 03:08, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

There is also Allstartrick (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), created this morning (EDT), before Allstartrick13 was created, but who has not yet edited. May want to keep an eye on them also. General Ization ^Talk 03:15, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Stop Deletion

Hey Dear User Please Stop Speed Deletion Of Our Country Artist Article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.143.250 (talk) 05:37, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Dear Techzaada, please stop socking. Another admin will decide if the article will be speedy deleted. If it is not, then it will go to WP:AFD. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 05:41, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Fix

Fixed this, it's nothing weird, just fixed, is all. Don't panic, not a sock, etc etc 88.104.29.57 (talk) 06:23, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 06:33, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Gen X

Please unlock the page. Thanks. 2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 18:49, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Protection actually expired a couple days ago. The bot didn't remove the icon. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:54, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Marathon Course Cutting

Thanks for your feedback on the matter and I apologize for violating the three-revert rule. I'm still learning the ins and outs of Wipikedia Etiquette and I'm tyong to be a good citizen. I did notice the rule but it was already after the fact so a bit to late. It is hard to be ina dispute with an anonymous editor who has no evidence to their claim but I guess we'll see how it goes. GregTakacs (talk) 21:29, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Page protection request

Good evening NeilN,
Following my request a week ago, you kindly added semi-protection to my User page at 16:10, on July 26, 2015‎. Since then I received an annoying post, [33], in itself fairly innocuous, but presumably must mean that my Talk page has not received the protection.
Am I correct? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:44, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones. You user page is protected and your link is not a diff? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:26, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

@Gareth Griffith-Jones: Are you talking about this? That's on your talk page. We rarely semi-protect user talk pages and never indefinitely for active editors. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:31, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I understand that; it was just that I read that both were protected. The edit in this instance puzzles me more than offends:

=== Matters arising ===

FYI: Wikipedia:Don't feed the divas. 128.90.35.90 (talk) 07:40, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

As an IP, non-registered editor, without any contributions, based in New York, you make no sense at all. Please clarify! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:25, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

... the only contribution from this IP.
Cheers! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 06:40, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

PP

Answered in detail about Francis. Please reconsider, it is a difficult page and has been protected earlier. --Hafspajen (talk) 16:00, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Sorry. Hafspajen (talk) 16:02, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Done. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:05, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

A brownie for you! A brownie is a flat, baked super-good treat made of dense, rich lovely chocolate cake. They are usually served as squares or bars. Delicious .... Hafspajen (talk) 17:00, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

2022 FIFA World Cup

I suggest taking down the 2022 FIFA World Cup page, because it is so far in the future that the page will be vandalized many more times before the tournament even starts. Also their is a chance that Qatar could be stripped of the world cup. One August 17th rolls around people will just come to this page and vandalize it. It probably is better if the page is deleted until qualifying for the tournament begins, — Preceding unsigned comment added by AllSportsfan16 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi AllSportsfan16. The proper venue for proposing the deletion of an article is WP:AFD. But I'll tell you right now it is highly, highly doubtful it would be deleted as the topic meets our notability guidelines. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:08, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Listen Carefully

Jon Hensley hasn't appeared on the Bold and the Beautiful since 2013! Therefore, not having acted since then, he has been inactive since 2013. Give your head a shake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimBarbasol (talk • contribs) 00:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Replied here. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:29, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

User

Hey there! Look, i don't know where exactly i was supposed to report this but user FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8 has done some inappropriate edits for a while. He stopped for a time but apparently has returned. Since some of his edits are ok i don't know what to do. But i know that edits such as this should not be tolerated, right? Can anyone do something? Thanks. Coltsfan (talk) 00:41, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Coltsfan, you can report things like that to any active admin. They may deal with it themselves or ask you to make a report at WP:ANI. In this case, I've indefinitely blocked the editor, explaining why and what they have to do to get unblocked. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:49, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

SPI case status

I think that once an admin has taken the required final action and no issues remains to be resolved, as was the case here, they can/should change the {{SPI case status}} to "close". At that point a clerk/CU takes a final look, and archives the case if everything's ok (or, re-opens it if it is not). Pinging @Vanjagenije: to make sure that I haven't got the procedure or distribution of labor wrong. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 04:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Abecedare: Thanks, I've reviewed the instructions and done so. I've left Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BulgariaSources open in case Vanjagenije wants a rangeblock done. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 08:43, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

It seems I missed your RfA, for some reason I just assumed you'd become an admin during my inactivity and only now realized that I'd actually missed it and you're a newbie! —SpacemanSpiff 08:58, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@SpacemanSpiff: Newbie, but I haven't blocked Jimbo or deleted the Main Page (yet!). --NeilN ^{talk to me} 09:26, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Abecedare: Yes, administrators should mark the case as "closed" if they made the decision based on the evidence, but only clerks are allowed to archive cases (see here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Clerk and checkuser procedures#Patrolling). Vanjagenije (talk) 09:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

M1gosyrntrillog

You are probably following it but just in case, I would suggest removing talk page access for User:M1gosyrntrillog as they are editing their talk page with personal attacks. 331dot (talk) 10:06, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

331dot, already done :) --NeilN ^{talk to me} 10:07, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@331dot: See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Migosyrn. My suggestion is to coldly deny recognition. NeilN probably know about it by now but if not, well there you go. Optakeover^(Talk) 10:09, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Chloë Grace Moretz

Hi Neil – thanks for protecting the Chloë Grace Moretz article about six weeks ago. Going to the RPP page is now a bit of a regular thing for me, which is unfortunate but it does have its merits in the long-term. Anyway, because there is still a considerable amount of IP vandalism there since you put the pending changes protection on the page, could you please change the protection level to semi-protected so that IPs can no longer reach the page? Let me know your thoughts. Thanks – 4TheWynne^{(talk)(contribs)} 12:50, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@4TheWynne: Given that every single IP edit for the past six weeks has been reverted, I've semi-protected for one year. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:55, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. 4TheWynne^{(talk)(contribs)} 12:56, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Suspected IPsock you recently blocked

You recently blocked:

• 213.123.194.188 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

This IP seems to be another evasion:

• 86.134.217.6 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

Compare these diffs, showing same obsession to replace Cheshvan with Marcheshvan: [34] and [35]. I'll point out that 86.* IPs are commonly used by Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Vote (X) for Change anyway. If I'm supposed to go through an SPI report, I'll do so, but I assume this is allowed and quicker and you know better. Thanks. (This came up at Talk:Hebrew calendar#More on Cheshvan vs. Marcheshvan.) Choor monster (talk) 14:41, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

• Never mind, that was quick! Choor monster (talk) 14:43, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

---

And now he's posting to Talk:Cheshvan (which I reverted). Choor monster (talk) 14:46, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

So you are cleverer than Risker who closed the SPI then.213.123.194.188 (talk) 14:48, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Obsession? What are you talking about? Others support this change. Are they all obsessives because they don't share your POV? 213.123.194.188 (talk) 14:50, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

LOL: [36]

NeilN's attack dog JoeSperrazza

Reported Special:Contributions/80.44.163.80 at WP:AN3 JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:27, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism Warning

I have been warned not to edit the talk page as it amounts to vandalism . I am unable to comprehend the context in which i was warned . Could you plz tell me a bit on that . Plz help .rahila 15:15, 4 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrishitch (talk • contribs)

Replied here. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:22, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Taken. Thanks. rahila 15:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrishitch (talk • contribs)

Affirmative action in the USA

Hi. I can see you blocked my IP. I find it worrying that you don't take the time to actually read the sources. This article are about a policy based on percived injustices, not some that are factual. It's not based on stately discrimination, as affirmative action is, but social discrimination based on people's views about minorities and women. This can never be know for a fact, and we can never know if a majority actually discriminates white males, white women, black men or whatever. This is also something that always changes. It is also a very strange policy, when white men today are to be discriminated based on what their mothers were victims to, would they really want their sons to be discriminated because they were? That makes no sens.

I also added a source by the census bureau. All women are outnumbering men, not only white women, white men. Olehal09 (talk) 17:11, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

And I did not use "sockpuppetry", I don't know exactly what that is, but I could just as well have been loged in when I edited. I just forgot. Olehal09 (talk) 17:12, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Olehal09, I have not blocked your IP but thanks for confirming your sock. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I could just have edited with my normal acount Niel. I didn't think it were necessary to log in. Olehal09 (talk) 17:16, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Olehal09, see WP:SCRUTINY. The edits you just made and the edit warring are a continuation of your problematic history. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:20, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Of corse my history are problematic, I am on this site because I know it is used by some people, and groups, to make "consensuses" that have no propper sources or are true. Olehal09 (talk) 17:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

A new version of an old problem

Hello NeilN. You may remember the nonsense that went on here last month. Well it started up again here Woody Page created by this brand new (in name only) editor. I am not sure that this redirect is needed since his last name is spelled differently. I have tagged the new edit so someone will take a look at it in time but I did want to let you know about the situation. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:02, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

MarnetteD, blocked and semied. Thanks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:21, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome and thanks for your efforts N. Since the edit was as full of nonsense as the previous ones and some of it was a BLP violation I am wondering if it should be subject to rev/del. If not no worries I am never quite sure about these. Would you also mind taking a look at this User:Iliketotest/sandbox. I know that leeway is given to sandboxes but the edits from this new account have been mostly WP:NOTHERE so far. Thanks again for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 19:26, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

MarnetteD, I usually don't revdel as it's "stupid" vandalism rather than anything else. The sandbox is deleted as a hoax. That other page in article space should be deleted too but I'll let another admin decide that. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:40, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I appreciate your input. Thanks again. MarnetteD|Talk 19:46, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello again :-) I was in the middle of adding a WP:PROD tag to the Lahia article when you add the "hoax" template. Is it okay to add that prod? I did go through the website for the ref provided [37] and could find no mention of this "minor district" MarnetteD|Talk 20:11, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

MarnetteD, I've asked an expert. [38] --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:15, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Dr B is certainly the right person to go to about this! I added a thread on the talk page for the article as well so I think we are gathering all of the intel that we can. MarnetteD|Talk 20:17, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

superfluousholes

Hello NeilN. Thanks for blocking him. I was ready to do it myself when I got the notification of the changes he made to the St Austell page. Our happy-go-lucky vandal is none other than "comedian" M J Walker. He's been gleefully reporting his edits on Facebook and Twitter. I may just keep an eye on those accounts in case he decides to create another account for round 3.

Scripticuk (talk) 21:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Magazine reader 25

You have blocked this editor as being a sockpuppet. I do not suggest that you are wrong, but it is much easier to assess his inevitable unblock request if you say who you believe the sockmaster is. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 22:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Correction; Magazine reader25 --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 22:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

OK, found your added comment. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 22:34, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

TD Ameritrade and FINRA Case 13-03663

What do you say neiln's ? In this text, added to the information on TD Ameritrade there is nothing defamatory. The judgment of the FINRA Case 13-03663 has sentenced for illegal actions on account of Antonino Arconte, his accountholder on 25 march 2015 Why shouldn't I be able to update? It is a news story in the public interest, as all those appeals to FINRA and the class action. I do not no crusade on wikipedia. I made a case against a bank incorrect and it is only fair that you know how it acts. For my blog link I've compilation copyright who else if not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AntoninoArconte (talk • contribs) 00:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

AntoninoArconte, the article is not the place to advertise your personal lawsuit against the company and your blog is not a reliable source. This is an encyclopedia, not Consumers Watch. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I understande, thanks, but for me credibility of wikipedia is a priority. The news is true, FINRA has condemned Td Ameritrade for embezzlement on account of a customer (mine) Case 13-03663 on 25 march 2015 in 1 Liberty Plaza in Manhattan, NYC. I had inserted a link to my blog not to advertise it, it has no need, but to give the possibility to verify the news reading the judgment. I saw on that page the news of other appeals FINRA and other judgments FINRA and class action and i thought it was fair to also know of this very serious judgment and it is not libel, because it is the truth established by FINRA judgment. It is not copyright infringement, because the blog is mine and I have all copyright. Let me know if I can insert it without my name and no link to the blog.

AntoninoArconte — Preceding unsigned comment added by AntoninoArconte (talk • contribs) 21:52, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@AntoninoArconte:. Again, Wikipedia is not a soapbox. The only way that material will be added is if multiple independent sources cover the incident. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 23:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

User:DeBarry Texas legal threats block

I have posted a long comment on ANI about the DeBarryTexas/Luis Santos24 dispute and the resulting legal threat block. You are mentioned, and although I pinged you there, the ping feature has failed for me several times recently so I thought I'd best give you a personal heads-up.

Please note that my criticisms are not personal to you in any way—a fact I particularly wish to stress since you and I coincidentally disagreed a few days ago on an unrelated matter. A large number of administrators would have handled the situation just as you did, and at least one has expressly said so. Nonetheless, my concerns as I've expressed them on ANI go very deep and I thought I'd best place them on the record for community discussion. Your thoughts as part of that discussion would of course be very welcome. Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:27, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad, I replied before I saw this message. I fully understand your concerns and did not consider taking them personally in any way. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:48, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I hope you are ok with my severe refactoring of User talk:DeBerryTexas. Johnuniq (talk) 02:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

(tpw) @Johnuniq: If wanted, you could create another account and continue editing.. Doesn't that go against what is described at WP:NLT? - NQ (talk) 02:18, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I reverted the change. I'm all for giving blocked editors good advice, but telling them it's OK to simply create another account and carry on is not good advice. Nor is removing the block notice, without which they'll be pretty much clueless as to what they need to do. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 02:28, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Johnuniq, I would probably re-add a message saying the material has been removed per our guidelines. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:32, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Of course I know about WP:CLEANSTART but given the circumstances my comments were the best way to handle the situation. There is very little chance that person (with a total of two edits) will return to Wikipedia so precisely following the rules is not necessary. Johnuniq (talk) 03:27, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Did you see this?

Congratulations - apparently you have become the personification of the ideal RfA candidate! [39] --MelanieN (talk) 09:28, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@MelanieN: Ack. I know of a few editors who would politely (and not so politely) disagree with that sentiment. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 10:41, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

...and I think you can probably wear their disagreement as a badge of honor. 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 15:54, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

"7 Seals" revealed as 'beyond Einstein theories'

NeilN: You wrongly removed a link of http://7seals.blogspot.com by Watson for the "7 Seals" revealed as 'beyond Einstein theories'. This is very important; it's nothing less than the 2nd Coming of the Christ and a HUGE paradigm shift in science. You need to reverse your action. If not, I will. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.104.60 (talk) 11:54, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Please see here and WP:FRINGE and WP:ELNO. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:29, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Our friend is back ...

... this time at Talk:Cheshvan. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:49, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: Blocked. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:57, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

We appreciate it. Maybe keep an eye on that page, and semiprotect also if he comes back? Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:29, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Kelly Osbourne

Hello. I was wondering what was wrong with my pending changes request, I have made a few others that you have also denied and applied semi-protection, would you please explain what is wrong with my requests? Govindaharihari (talk) 16:09, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Govindaharihari. You asked for indefinite pending changes. The last time the article was protected was in January 2013 for one week. We don't jump suddenly from that to indefinite. The recent disruption was frequent enough that it's not productive to ask editors to keep reverting. Therefore, I chose two month semi-protection. After that expires, the situation can be reassessed. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:19, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't see a backlog of pending changes, in fact there are hardly any, you could just have easily applied two months pending protection, this at least allows ip users to contribute, you have totally restricted them for two months, I don't see this as an open approach? You gave this article 6 month pending protection, and I see little difference in the revert history], was it just because I clicked on indefinite, and in the online world isn't six months a very long time? Govindaharihari (talk) 16:23, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Govindaharihari, if you're willing to keep on reverting then I will drop the protection down to pending. As for Chris Pratt, take a look at the protection log. [40] --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:32, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I just saw this and thought you applied pending, I don't really get it , one month semi and six months pending, anyways, no worries really, I had it on my watchlist and edit most days and always look at any pending revisions. Thanks for responding and advising. Govindaharihari (talk) 17:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Govindaharihari, if you want to know, sometimes I do this to articles where there's a low but steady stream of vandalism which has suddenly picked up for some reason. I want to stop the immediate disruption and then have some sort of control over future disruption when the semi expires. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 17:11, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Ok NeilN, thanks for the explanations, I don't often request protection so when I do in future I will consider your comments here, I appreciate the advice. Govindaharihari (talk) 17:15, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Block request

HI. Could this IP please have a temporary block placed on them. Continued unsourced additions over a prolonged amount of time and has not heeded to warnings. DaHuzyBru (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi DaHuzyBru. I've added a final warning and a tutorial on how to add references. Let me know if they continue and there are no sources for their changes. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:55, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

up to his old tricks again. IMO, he's been warned enough and needs a time-out. Rikster2 (talk) 00:45, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Seventeen (band)

Sorry. I can't because i am an IP editor, so I can't edit semi-protected pages. 2602:306:3357:BA0:454B:F02:1D85:F7DF (talk) 19:27, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Here is the last good version. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seventeen_(band)&diff=674197604&oldid=674030716. 2602:306:3357:BA0:454B:F02:1D85:F7DF (talk) 19:32, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Question...

Hello NeilN. I've got a question for you – what should an editor do when they see something like this (note the edit summary)?... Thanks in advance. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi IJBall. There are two issues, the edit and the user. If what they're changing from is not strongly sourced, I would leave their edit if it looks credible. If the person has taken the username of someone famous or semi-famous, they should be pointed to WP:REALNAME and reported to WP:UAA. In this case, I would simply welcome them using {{welcome-COI}}. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 19:51, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

 Done And thanks for the advice – I think that is the first time I've come across something like that! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Millennials page

Could you provide your expertise on the new info. box on the Millennials page please? Splitting the dates in the info. box makes the range of dates very confusing. Why add another layer to what the lede already says. This information is redundant and negatively impacts the flow of the lede. Also, we already have a notable person segment -- but do the authors of that need to show how the people listed are relevant to the Millennials page? The sources don't say they're "Millennials" (from a first glance). Should the list be removed as well...per OR? Your thoughts?2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 21:19, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Gen Z page

The editor is adding the same info. box to the Gen Z page with unsupported info. i.e. "Ending years 2009 - present". Could you remove it please? It makes the range of years confusing and the information is redundant. Thank you. 2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 21:21, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

David Yerushalmi - Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act173.67.162.123 (talk) 01:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Editor claimed that it does not even belong on page citing original case against OBAMACARE and his name is not mentioned. Editor removed entire reference to case. I tried to correct references by adding a new reference that clearly shows involvement by David Yerushalmi The passage needs work, but should be there! The last edit had the following:

On March 23, 2010, Robert Muise and Richard Thompson filed the first federal lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Thomas More Law Center et al. v. Pres. Obama et al. The case was filed in Detroit, Michigan on behalf of four Michigan residents who did not have health insurance and who objected to the Act's individual mandate, which required them to purchase insurance. By the end of the case Muise and co-counsel David Yerushalmi became the lawyers of record. On October 7, 2010, the judge ruled against the plaintiffs. The case was appealed to the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals. which also ruled against the plaintiffs and upheld the individual mandate. Muise and Yerushalmi filed for a U.S. Supreme Court review, and in June 2012, the Supreme Court ruled against the plaintiffs and upheld the individual mandate. In 2012, Muise and Yerushalmi co-authored an article published in Duke University Press's online version of the Journal of Health Politics, Policy, and Law, entitled, "Wearing the Crown of Solomon? Chief Justice Roberts and the Affordable Care Act 'Tax'", which criticized the majority opinion written by Chief Justice John Roberts in the United States Supreme Court's ruling on the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act.

References

Your previous IPs have been blocked for this before. [41] --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:50, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring

Hi Neil, the IP blocked on 4 August as a result of this is at it again: [42] [43]. I haven't bothered with a warning on its talk page because I think we're beyond that and I wasn't sure about adding to the existing ANI entry in case it was considered closed. Do you have a suggestion? Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 03:16, 6 August 2015 (UTC

"It"!? Are anonymous users animals or something, what are you trying to say? Anonymous users are legitimate users entitled to edit Wikipedia. If they make important points, they are entitled to receive engagement. Kiernan, an admin I see, trolled my talk page with an edit warring warning while himself edit warring, spurned attempts at discussion, and felt entitled to post an edit warring report after himself performing four reverts in a few days, three in one day. NeilN, another admin, blocked his opponent and passed over his contributions without comment but continued to post aggressive messages on my talkpage. And Ian Rose, your contribution? To join in the edit warring citing non-existing 'consensus' as a reason for a template in lieu of any meaningful contribution to the discussion, and run about whining about how you can't be bothered warning some animal thing. And what's this sacred 'consensus' your trying to bullshit me with? Kiernan on the talk page offering some confused logic, and another guy complaining about bad language. It probably won't be to you lot, but the behaviour resulting from what would be an uncontroversial edit from an established user should be an embarrassment. 80.44.64.116 (talk) 03:48, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Blocked my opponent? What are you talking about? That is a serious charge. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:53, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

*His=Kiernan's. Definitely ambiguous, I'll grant you, but you revealed your defensive/paranoid streak there. 80.44.64.116 (talk) 03:55, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

"NeilN, another admin, blocked his opponent..." It would be much clearer if you did not refer to yourself in the third person. You are also edit warring on a featured article which has undergone close review. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:00, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Don't disagree. Have you seen the latest reverts? Meaningless and contemptful like all the rest. Apparently I should be discussing this. User didn't seem to notice that the only time I wasn't was when I was prevented from doing so by a block. 80.44.64.116 (talk) 04:05, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Discussing and refraining from reverting. If you think discussion has stalled, there are options listed at WP:DRR you can try. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

It seems to be very emotionally attached to this topic. Strange for someone who has been dead for over three centuries. Mary Queen of Scots, not the IP. Who might actually be Mary, communicating from the Great Beyond through the Internet. Where's Melinda Gordon when you need her?  :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Health and Welfare ‖ 04:16, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Block evasion is grounds for immediate blocking, yes?

The thing is, they really don't seem to have had a fair discussion, because everyone, including me, is too busy piling on to revert per BRD. Kind of a shame, but I'm sure it will all be worked out. FourViolas (talk) 04:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, funny how that works. And I was just starting to sort of agree with them. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - General Health ‖ 04:49, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Does somebody want to help a newcomer with an article?

Performance fabrics. It should have ideally been submitted through AfC, but it wasn't. I've tried to help it somewhat, but I'm afraid I'm losing patience with it. Do you and your watchers want to help? Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 11:59, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Update: It kept getting worse, beyond my control, and I moved it to Draft space, leaving a redirect. The editor blanked the page, apparently intending to replace the article. The editor is very odd, and a loose cannon. I don't know what to do about this but I feel sure you will know what to do, Neil. Thanks in advance. Softlavender (talk) 12:17, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the deletion of the article-space title. The draft is now at Draft:Performance fabrics, which I see you have templated accordingly. Softlavender (talk) 12:29, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Softlavender, the article could've probably survived an AFD but since you moved it to a draft, the redirect had to be deleted. Hopefully the creator submits it for review so he can get some feedback. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:34, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

It wasn't the notability that was a concern, it was the fact that it was a complete mess and that the editor was making it worse by adding to the mess ineptly (every edit he made made it worse). It did not warrant being on article space in that state, nor would an AfD have helped with the problems quickly enough, hence I moved it to Draft to allow the editor to at least modify it and have it reviewed before it went to article space. Hope that makes sense. Softlavender (talk) 12:42, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Hmm. "Performance Fabrics" is a huge field, and that draft merely scratches the surface. Covering the subject properly is way out of my ability grade. Every fabric is a "performance" fabric, requiring specific properties for each end use and trying to define a performance fabric is the first order of business, one which ought to be astonishingly difficult. The draft focuses down on a particular niche which is OK as far as it goes. (this has been my field throughout my working life. Also, if you want to see a poor article in this area, try Spandex) -Roxy the dog™ (Resonate) 12:59, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Here is how the article started: [44]. The editor then kept creating it on the fly ... triply problematic when one is a brand-new user with only 140 edits, does not know wiki article formatting style or requirements, and does not speak or write native English. It was all too much to bear, even with my cleanup, as I couldn't stem the tide of problems. Softlavender (talk) 13:17, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Renaming Articles

Since your an admin, I've decided to ask you this. How can you rename articles? As this article ,AlbaStar Destanations. Has the word 'destination' spelt incorrectly. I created it but copied and pasted all of the destination information from AlbaStar. Not realizing that destinations had been spelt incorrectly. RMS52 (talk) 12:31, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi RMS52. You use the move tab at the top of the article to move the article to the correct title. Not sure we need a separate article listing destinations, though. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, we do. Because on WP:AIRLINES destination lists need to be seperated from the main airline article. RMS52 (talk) 12:42, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Ibadi page

I know it's nitpicking, but on the Ibadi page, under "Relations with other communities", the term "predated" should be replaced with "antedated". Efreshwater5 (talk) 13:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Efreshwater5: Fixed, thanks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Can you email me a copy

Can you email a copy of my userpage (wiki coding) that was deleted back in the spring? I just need a few pieces of info off it but do not wish for a full restore. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:30, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Hell in a Bucket, done. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:34, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:34, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Blocking, gagging, and so forth

Does it not feel a bit ridiculous, protecting the talk page of a featured article for no real reason? 80.42.3.248 (talk) 14:42, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

You were told twice that your comments might be allowed to stand while you're blocked but definitely won't be if you attack other editors. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:45, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

That wasn't the question. I'm still trying to figure out if you are an idiot or not, an answer like that sways me in a certain direction here. 80.42.3.248 (talk) 14:47, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Our blocking policy states that a user may only edit their own user talk page and nothing else while blocked. It's served us well over the years, keeping disruption to a minimum. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:50, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

There. You've just called NeilN an "idiot", and you accuse him of "gagging". Is your behaviour not clear enough? —George8211 / T 14:53, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, hope you notice that the guy whose behaviour you are promoting and protecting, DrKiernan (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA), has just protected a template to preserve a recent edit he made to remove long-standing content; and he is using your block as an excuse. 89.241.220.110 (talk) 14:55, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Which is entirely proper behavior, seeing as you are block evading. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:03, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Millennials page 2

The new info boxes on the generations pages are turning out to be a way for editors to fight over the birth dates again. The range of dates were already discussed on the talk pages (with input from many editors) over a long time consuming period. Would it be best to remove the date info from each info box (Gen X, Millennials and Gen z) and let the articles explain it with references attached? Thank you for your help. 2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 15:20, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

As I said on the talk page, I agree with you that the infoboxes should not be there. No one has replied to my post yet. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:37, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Could you explain how to get rid of the "start - end" sub-header in the info. box please? See recent Baby Boomers page edit. The template was created here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_generation&diff=prev&oldid=674697376

Do you want to edit the template or fill in the values? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:48, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I want to edit the template. 2606:6000:610A:9000:1D0F:636F:39A:867D (talk) 16:00, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Edit the template and remove {{{start}}}–{{{end}}} from subheader = --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:02, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Awesome thanks, could you review this change to the template (see the edit summary too) here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_generation

I dont know if it's going to work. These info boxes should be removed until they can provide value though. They look like crap. The editor who created them wants us to "fix" it instead of putting it in a draft folder.

Yes, I don't like those infoboxes at all (and this is coming from someone who generally supports their inclusion). The "notable members" field right now seems like an exercise in original research. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:43 pm, Today (UTC−4)

Also, how do we get rid of the dash in the sub-header inside the box? See Baby Boomers

The dash is in the field code you were asking about. See it between the two start and end fields? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:53, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Louis Belasco 2

See[45] and his talk page. Really I don't see much future for this editor. Doug Weller (talk) 15:53, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Doug Weller, indeffed, obviously. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:57, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Painfully. Doug Weller (talk) 16:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Mujaddid

Hi Neil, could you look at this.--Peaceworld 17:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

MelanieN took care of it. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:52, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

@Peaceworld111: Thanks for identifying the last stable version for me. That made it a lot easier. This has been going on for a LONG time. --MelanieN (talk) 19:10, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for taking care of it.--Peaceworld 19:13, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Marie Antoinette

Hello, first I want to thank you for your intervention, I hope you supervise this article from the talk page after the ban is lifted ; I 'm ready to follow your arbitration and make compromises, I have already sent a message to Blue Indigo on his talk page. Thank youAubmn (talk) 18:04, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

To your attention:

NeilN,

I left a msg to your attention on Marie Antoinette's talk page [46].

Best regards, --Blue Indigo (talk) 19:22, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Gadgets

Howdy, I've fixed the gadget "Change UTC-based times and dates, such as those used in signatures, to be relative to local time.". Cheers, Nakon 03:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

@Nakon: Thank you! --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:58, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

The FINRA is an independent source and it's public. I don't understand their own motivation to not give the news on wikipedia. In the other published were not even judgments FINRA but acceptances to pay compensation before the judgment of the Court.