Jump to content

User talk:Softlavender

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Twitbookspacetube (talk | contribs) at 12:35, 23 August 2017 (→FYI: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

You may want to increment {{Archive basics}} to |counter= 9 as User talk:Softlavender/Archive 8 is larger than the recommended 150Kb.

Myke Hurley

Hi Softlavender. You were a lot of help sorting out Bill Hillmann, so I'm wondering it you wouldn't also mind taking a look at Myke Hurley and commenting at Talk:Myke Hurley#Notability and primary sources. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:45, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Marchjuly, I think I came to Bill Hillmann via a thread on ANI, and got into it because I felt sorry for the newbie who created it and got slammed by SwisterTwister's lack of WP:BEFORE. And then I became very interested the the article subject -- I found it intriguing that someone could be a former boxer, bull-runner, and very colorful writer. Whereas that article you mention seems very boring to me. I wouldn't even want to determine notability on that one, but the article does look promotional. I just don't have the interest to fix it, though. I think I'll tag the talkpage with search suggestions and see if that helps. If not, you can always nominate it at AfD .... Softlavender (talk) 14:51, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Understand. If you have any comments on the sources, either way, than that might be helpful. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Frankly, I just don't know much about podcasts or podcasters or what makes them notable or not. It's really a matter of doing the research (with the help of the tag I added, for instance) and getting better sources if available, but I don't have any interest. Softlavender (talk) 15:11, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank for you taking the time to take a closer look and provide input. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:32, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
for your diligent efforts to find resolution in the Winkelvi ANI, a thankless task performed well and in the face of much heat and antagonism. Figureofnine (talk • contribs) 14:36, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Z147

Thanks very much, Figureofnine. Much appreciated! Softlavender (talk) 14:51, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Trevor Eyster AfD

Hi Softlavender. Sorry again for the mistake on ANI. I was gonna ping you again, but then decided it would be better to post this time around. You might want to take a look at WP:ANI#Retaliatory Editing since it may have an impact on the AfD discussion. I just saw that another possible SPA/COI account (with only a handful of edits) added a comment to the dicussion, so there may a bit of strangeness happening on both sides of the fence on this matter. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:12, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kitchen sink films

Please stop removing vital films from the list, I created the list initially and these films shouldnt be removed. 81.174.255.78 (talk) AmyNelson. —Preceding undated comment added 11:26, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tell yourself to stop edit warring! Do some research instead of removing vital films from the list, this is beyond a joke. 81.174.255.78 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:02, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Salute Your Shorts

Hey there! Can you check out the edit history for Salute Your Shorts? Judging by the IP address, I assume it's another sock for the prior malicious editors, but my main question is about leaving Christine on due to her being a "Guest Star" vs an extra. Only reason I'm asking you directly is because this person apparently thinks you and I are the same person and since we both know we aren't, I thought maybe you could help in this case. Thanks! Erinhayden (talk) 06:01, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Erinhayden, I don't have any knowledge of that matter (whether someone who was on two episodes should be in the cast list on Wikipedia). If the IPs are being disruptive or are socking, request semi-protection of the article at WP:RFPP, which will prevent IPs form editing the article. Softlavender (talk) 07:29, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Thank you! Sorry to bother you. Erinhayden (talk) 07:31, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion invite

Hello. I invite you to join a centralized discussion about naming issues related to China and Taiwan. Szqecs (talk) 04:55, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Meta Glass

If you have a chance would you mind looking over (or mind directing some apt minds) over to Meta Glass (a new Sweet Briar related article that someone has made)? I've made some small edits where I can but it seems that some things could still be fixed. Thanks! Ladysif (talk) 07:54, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ladysif, I don't know how much time I have to spend on it; I made a few edits. If you like you could add a {{refimprove}} tag to the top (although it is possible that most of the info comes from the frequently cited Stohlman book, and it simply needs to be noted in a separate section called "Sources", which would cover a lot of the material which does not have inline citations). If you need extra eyes/help, I advise posting a neutral request on the talk pages of the WikiProjects which are linked on the article's talk page. Hope that helps! (PS: I invite any of my talkpage watchers to also help out. PPS: The article creator is not a total newbie, and could be reminded that the article could use some help to get it up to snuff.) Softlavender (talk) 08:15, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again Ladysif, I've pecked away at it and made it about as good as it's going to get with the current information. Hope that helps. Softlavender (talk) 16:17, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! A few things seemed off with it and I'm a bit far removed from editing these days as I am extremely busy, so I appreciate it. I would have stuck it in the articles for improvement but since it was brand new it didn't seem right. Ladysif (talk) 21:45, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of LiveJournal users

Regarding your recent edits to the above-noted article, could you please start a discussion on the talk page describing your concerns, particularly as they relate to the notability guideline for standalone lists and to the previous two discussions of the article's notability in the AfDs? Simply slapping a template on a page that has already survived two notability-based deletion discussions, without providing something new to the discussion, is not particularly helpful. If you believe that it is necessary and possible to better establish notability, then some ideas would be helpful. If you don't believe it's possible to establish notability, then as I mentioned in my previous edit summary, a better course of action would be to start a new deletion discussion. —Psychonaut (talk) 10:11, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • See Help:Maintenance template removal. Do not remove maintenance templates until the problem indicated in the template is solved. The article does not establish any notability whatsoever, much less from any reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it beyond its mere trivial mention. WP:LISTN states "Notability of lists (whether titled as "List of Xs" or "Xs") is based on the group. One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources ...." The article does not provide that. Softlavender (talk) 10:20, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Winnipeg editor

I've blocked 142.160.173.180 (talk · contribs) for evasion. Let me know if you see any new IPs working in the same style. Consider filing an WP:SPI, just for record-keeping, though I'm unsure if the clerks like that. If SPI isn't the best, I wonder if WP:LTA would work. So far I notice some 142.* addresses and some 216.* addresses, though no blockable ranges have been used so far. Some of these IPs have been blocked by User:Coffee. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See a response from an SPI clerk on this idea. Their only caution was against IP tagging for the suspected sockuppet category. EdJohnston (talk) 16:23, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AN thread

Hi, Softlavender! I've reverted your revert, as I feel you've misunderstood the edit. (I was merely undoing a recent automated bot-archive that I felt was premature.) If you have concerns about this, I'd like the opportunity to discuss them with you. Kind regards, Xenophrenic (talk) 16:44, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Copied troll-chasing meta-question to VP Technical.

Leave the section on ANI alone, note the move to VP, or just nuke it in place? Anmccaff (talk) 21:01, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Anmccaff, I've noted the move in the close now, and in my edit summary; I've also removed your unnecessary formatting on the VPT thread, making it easier to participate in. Softlavender (talk) 21:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'd still be more comfortable if it was obvious at VPT that Thos. W's contribution was originally elsewhere, but if this is how it should be done, I'll live with it. Anmccaff (talk) 21:20, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you want people at VPT to answer the question, the thread shouldn't be in green. I noted that the conversation was moved from ANI. Softlavender (talk) 21:22, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

April 2017

Information icon I noticed that a message you recently left to a newcomer may have been unduly harsh for a newcomer. Please remember not to bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. I know it can be frustrating at times, but that level 4 on Quantum seemed a little harsh to me, for what looked like good faith edits (that just failed to meet P&G in a newbie way). Murph9000 (talk) 22:32, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Murph9000, I gave him a level 4 because I had already given him a level 3 (because of this ANI report [1]) and he responded by edit-warring with me. Also, you might want to read Don't template the regulars. Softlavender (talk) 22:41, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, I was unaware of the improperly filed ANI (no notice of it on the user talk page). I meant no offence by using a template here, it was just an expedient way to express the base of my concern about what I saw, supplemented with a personal comment attached to it. I saw you going directly from level 2 to level 4 in a case which seemed to have misguided good faith from the newbie. Anyway, you won't hear any more from me on this particular issue, as I just wanted to quietly add my opinion. Please do feel free to remove this talk section, if you want to. Thanks, and best wishes. Murph9000 (talk) 22:56, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AN

Is there a reason why you're taking the moral fucking high ground with me on your Laser brain thread at AN? Do you know how patronising your coming across by advising someone to email the retired editor rather than participate on a thread which you've aptly named "Laser brain"? I had no idea the thread was exclusive to you and your thoughts. CassiantoTalk 10:49, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your poll post

Hi Softlavender. I must say that I found this to be really harsh and bitey. Was that to put others off taking the poll, to put White Arabian Filly off running for adminship, or to blast me for "spamming"?

In response to your post:

  • Many editors approach many others about adminship at their talk pages, face to face at Wiki-events, via email, etc. In fact, that is one of the main ways new admins come into being. Why do you feel that my post were inappropriate?
  • You wrote "... no interest, no indication, no need, and little or no qualifications for becoming admins..." but White Arabian Filly is interested, has shown indication, and is qualified.
  • As for "need", plenty of editors see AIV and other areas requiring more admin help, and run for RfA for that purpose. "Need", as you put it, implies need to serve one's own purposes. Adminship is about serving Wikipedia.

My best wishes,

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:37, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A new hobby?

Pssst!! I'd avoid Craggy Island, if I were you. At least until AAA-Uncle-Jimbo-Cars steps into the fray again? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:36, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please help

Corkythehornetfan is at it again.

He's changing CORRECT info with incorrect info. Also, he's going back and undoing CORRECT changes to the logos that he himself introduced. This guy has a history of doing this. It becomes about "winning the argument" and not doing what is right and starts these mass edit wars. Please help me with this. I tried to move past this the last time, when you stepped in and ruled that I was right and he was not. But now he's doing it again. It's clear his latest edits are a mere extension of this past attack.

Please help and stop him.

Thank you. AnneMorgan88 (talk)

No idea what you are talking about. Softlavender (talk) 03:44, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

please provide diffs for your accusations

diff - Your continued harping, on the other hand, accorss multiple talk pages and in multiple venues, is disruptive editing, and sooner or later is going to get you blocked -- at this rate I'm predicting sooner.

It is a wp:npa personal attack to accuse without providing links to support - Please offer links or retract your accusations - thanks - Govindaharihari (talk) 07:12, 28 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You have been seemingly very harsh

...to me, for someone experienced here, and professionally. I say this especially with regard — not to the issue of tags, which I can understand that there are strongly differing perspectives — but to the motives behind what I do. I will acknowledge there is a little of the counter-cultural "I don't care a whit for running up edit numbers, by being religious about logging", but there is not a whit of what is attributed to me, in terms of attempts to deceive. If I perceive there is any possibility of concern as to indentity, or any chance of misunderstanding, I add Le Prof to IP edits. I think the policies and guidelines are clear, that IP is allowed, logging preferred, but the red line is use of IP by registered editors with an attempt to deceive. This simply does not apply—and as I replied at Ivanvector's talk page, even the appearance that recent edits were an attempt to get around the ban is just that, appearance. (I did not know about the ban until late today, shortly before the time-stamp of my long reply at User:Jytdog's Talk page.) I simply spend no time at my own Talk page. (I find it largely a waste of what little life I have left to live.) Cheers, bonne nuit. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 10:11, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Softlavender, can you remind me again why we put up with the verbosely deaf and clueless? EEng 22:26, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note, EEng, you have been warned about this, by an Admin, please comply. Leprof 7272 (talk) 23:41, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Being scolded by you for not listening is like being told you're ugly by a toad. EEng 02:26, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
...charity...?! :D — O Fortuna semper crescis, aut decrescis 22:54, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Softlavender, I renew the invitation to explain your ire. Not your studied concern, or your principled objections to the mistakes I have made—some of which I admit to—but your anger/ire. Cheers, Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 23:33, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Mark Anderson (writer)

Hi Softlavender. I was looking at Mark Anderson (writer) and noticed that you made a number of contributions to the article. There is only one source cited and that appears to be to a primary source, so I was going to tag the page with "Notability" and "BLP primary sources" templates. I know you do help out improving BLPs and also remember saying that you mainly work on those you find interesting, so I was wondering if you feel Anderson meets WP:NAUTHOR or if this should maybe be AfD'd. I did Google "Mark Anderson writer" and there were some hits, but most of what I saw appear to be trivial mentions or stuff which might be for another Mark Anderson. Any ideas on what to do here? -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:40, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the article should be AfDed; it has withstood the test of time and intense scrutiny because he is or was in the middle of the Shakespeare authorship controversy. I just now added the "friendly search suggestions" template to the talk page, but checking that now it's kind of hard to use that because there are a number of Mark Andersons who apparently have the word "writer" come up in random links mentioning them, and because he doesn't use a middle initial that I can tell. Anyway, I'll look at it down the line to see if I can figure out more targeted ways to find sources on him. I'm kind of distracted right now so I don't know when I will get to that. :-) Softlavender (talk) 22:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a look and your feedback. Do you think tagging with a {{BLP Sources}} would be appropriate just to let others know to be on the look out for better sourcing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:20, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I'd rather wait on that step, if you are asking me my opinion. I would like to do some targeted Googling with added keywords to find appropriate sources. If I haven't done that within a week, get back to me here to remind me, if that plan is OK with you. Softlavender (talk) 02:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. Although I do add tags to articles, I don't see myself as a tag bomber. I'll keep looking for stuff as well. I was able to find his Linked In page (I think) and seemed to weed out a lot of the other Mark Andersons by searching "Mark Anderson Shakespeare". -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:22, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I didn't spend too much time on it but I've added four references, all of which establish that he is a recognized expert in the fields of the two books he wrote. The three references for the transit of Venus book are all interviews, but they are all from major international venues with high quality standards. I'm sure there would be much more that can be added if a painstaking search were done, but I didn't spend all that much time. Softlavender (talk) 06:47, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hello. I didn't realize Marchjuly has already contacted you regarding Mark Anderson (writer). I some time ago prodded this article mentioning there were no secondary sources discussing the author. I have further noted that one primary source failed verification and another statement had no citations. You removed the prod mentioning that the author is "clearly notable and an internationally recognized expert in his fields". I'll go by your direction here. May I request you to add the secondary sources to get the article up to our notability guidelines? If I'm missing something here, please don't hesitate to pull me up. Thanks. Lourdes 03:29, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You're very welcome, Lourdes. Thanks for the nudge; it was nice to get the article up to snuff. Softlavender (talk) 10:02, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Just want to say thank you as well for really taking the time to improve the article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:51, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cary Grant

To date, there are 5,387,571 articles on the English Wikipedia so there is no need for you to be at the above trying to breath life into an old, and very much established discussion on a contentious subject. I'm sure there are many other articles out there that could benefit from your invested time? I have some suggestions: Why don't you go and make the 5,387,571 articles 5,387,572, or go and review a GAN, or take part in a peer review somewhere? I fail to see the benefit in you playing your pipe towards the Grant article in an attempt to attract a bunch of faceless nobodies to pitch up at an article that they will more than likely never visit again, just so they can enforce their unwanted and very much unneeded POV at? I consider your attempts at doing this to be thoroughly disruptive. CassiantoTalk 13:16, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LeProf

I kindly request that you stop messing with LeProf. It's clear that they have a particular view of how they want things done, and you're really not making things better by insisting that the exact threading of the original conversation be kept. All you're doing is antagonizing them. Is that really worth it for a few seconds of self-congratulations that you're "right"? Primefac (talk) 12:17, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TPG. -- Softlavender (talk) 13:26, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm familiar with that page, but I genuinely think this is a case for implementing WP:IAR (especially since TPG is more of a guideline). LeProf clearly doesn't want people messing with his talk page, and (as mentioned on a few parallel discussions) it's probably easier to just let him have his way in this case. Pointless quibbling helps no one. I guess the question is this: in the grand scheme of things, is the threading of that conversation going to seriously change the message and overall outcome of the page? No. So again, I ask, please just drop it. Primefac (talk) 13:38, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page rodent) 1.6.1 Others' comments - Fixing layout errors - He likes fixing errors... at least it's not big tags before each message: (sorry, I couldn't resist). — PaleoNeonate — 14:12, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Interested or perhaps a tps is?

I was glad to see you pop by the Akhal-Teke article. That one is a mess, we had it halfway cleaned up for a while, then the political stuff got added in and I haven't had the time to clean it all up since ... there's quite a political kerfuffle over there, and I would be really interested in collaborating with someone who can delve into that mess and clean up the article accordingly. There are a lot of unsourced claims in there -- the horse genetics and bloodline stuff I can probably delve into ( I've done so before) but it would be great if someone could also look into the political side and the Amnesty International involvement (I think that one of the major breeders and gov't agency heads is now was imprisoned [2], [3] ) -- the horse obsession of the dictator is neither helping the horse breed nor the people... these horses are of some moderate interest in the USA (see Nez Perce horse), and the question of whether they are descendants from the same sources as the Byerly Turk is of some historic interest to Thoroughbred breeders. Anyway, you also have a lot of talk page watchers too, I'm sure, so just extending an invite to anyone interested. Montanabw(talk) 01:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Archiving the music project page

Thanks for your edit - I agree that 30 days is too short. But just to point out a slight logical error (imo): if anything more important projects can be archived sooner. The fact that a project is obscure suggests that people may visit it far less frequently, and so arguing for a longer archive delay on grounds of obscurity would be more persuasive. Did you know, btw, that imo is the generic Japanese for edible tubers, including potatoes? (And btw is prolly German for something else) Imaginatorium (talk) 08:48, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Revert unclosing

Hi Softlavender. I noticed you reverted my close of the James Lambden section without leaving anything other than an edit summary. JJL understands not to alter talk page comments anymore and no one has commented in the past few days. What else is there to do? Please consider closing it back. Mr Ernie (talk) 18:59, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is a massive amount of discussion in that thread, on a wide variety of topics, not just about JJL's altering talk-page discussions. The thread should continue open until all matters reach some form of resolution. If it simply dies out, a bot will archive the thread after three days of inactivity. Threads should not be purple-box closed unless they are completely resolved. Rather than shutting down discussion, just let them expire naturally if there is no obvious resolution. Softlavender (talk) 19:15, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The point of that thread was altering talk page comments. Everything else was unrelated and belonged somewhere else and no admins had commented which led me to think there would be no administrative actions necessary. Now since you've reverted my close it will sit there for 3 more days. But thanks for your comments here and attempting to keep some order and structure on ANI. Mr Ernie (talk) 19:40, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Unrelated things very often come up on ANI threads, and they don't belong somewhere else unless there is a specific administrative noticeboard for them (and if they do belong on a different noticeboard, that should be pointed out so that discussion can be moved there). It's important not to shut down conversations simply because one issue seems to have been resolved. Softlavender (talk) 20:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How do you deal with the "fake admin" attacks?

I don't know if you've noticed, but I've been active on ANI a bit more lately. I've been posting there on and off for years, though, and only recently noticed an upsurge in attacks on me for making (admittedly an unusually large number of) non-admin comments in threads I'm not involved in, coming from something like four different users in the last three weeks, only one of whom I was proposing a BOOMERANG against. I don't know -- have you experienced this?

(Also pinging User:Mr rnddude, who is third after me and Softlavender in terms of good-faith non-admins who I know make a lot of comments in ANI discussions that I happen to have noticed; there's one other who I don't have any problem with, but who I suspect wouldn't like me pinging them.)

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hijiri88; I figure that this is because of this thread and subsequent discussion on Bishonen's talk page (courtesy ping). Well, I don't recall ever being accused of being a "fake admin", though I have, along with other non-admins, been accused of abusing my admin privileges. The ones I don't have. In terms of having been "attacked" on AN/I it has happened about three or four times total. The end result of these has always been more heat than light. The thing I would recommend, if you come under fire and you're not doing anything inappropriate, just ignore it and don't respond – hard as it is to do. There's no use in defending yourself; the person attacking isn't generally going to be willing to listen or reason with you and you just have to trust that the other editors involved (especially those of us who are regulars) are paying attention and can see bs when it's there. Maybe respond if it's an editor who is usually willing to reason and might have had a heat of the moment response, but, mostly just ignore. I spent time to go through a bit of the AN/I thread I linked above. There are moments where the long posts (looking to be pushing 5k on a couple occassions) don't do anything to bring clarity and just further an already pointless discussion. Consider the section entitled "Another arbitrary break" (started by you), it headed in the wrong direction almost immediately. Your first post was fine, but, it was met with hostility from AlexTW. You tried to engage with them to no avail and no productive outcome (repeatedly). From what I read in that section AlexTW was looking to carry-on the fight with you. By responding, you were just feeding their aggression. After that the two IPs show up and join in. No idea who they are or what they want, but, I agree with Bishonen that they aren't just randoms. The only thing you could have done is recuse yourself from the discussion. Might have saved you some grief. You've self-imposed a ban from AN/I for the duration of one new archive. I'd say that's about a month PBAN. Might do you some good to get away from the drama for a bit. Beyond that, there's not much you can do if somebody decides to attack you beside either cop it on the chin and move on or request action. Personally, I usually just cop it on the chin and move on. They'll get themselves blocked sooner or later. Mr rnddude (talk) 01:09, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Votes

Hi. I've lately been getting used to nodding silent agreement with a lot of what you say around the site, but your vote on the current RfA left me a bit baffled. Best, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:12, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Editor of the Week

Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your outstanding negotiating and mediation skills. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Figureofnine submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I nominate User Softlavender to be Editor of the Week for her outstanding negotiating and mediation skills, which recently resulted in her reaching a compromise that resulted in resolution of a particularly thorny user conduct issue at AN/I. Softlavender's proposal received near-unanimous acceptance among the warring factions, thereby resolving for the time-being a longstanding issue. There was considerable antagonism expressed, but she maintained her equanimity. Softlavender has honed her diplomatic skills through ten years on the project, 54,000 edits and creation of 82 articles. Thus it is my great pleasure to nominate Softlavender as editor of the week.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week: 

{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Recipient user box}}

Thanks again for your efforts! Lepricavark (talk) 21:23, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This award is very much deserved! Congrats Softlavender. I know you will keep up the good work in the years ahead. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 21:29, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, Corinne! Softlavender (talk) 00:04, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So glad to nominate you for this. Long overdue! Just the kind of editor it was designed to honor. Thank you Buster for creating and administering this award. Figureofnine (talk • contribs) 13:17, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations Softlavender! Thoroughly well-deserved :) And thanks to Buster and the nominees for keeping this great booster on the road! Irondome (talk) 20:35, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations, very well deserved! Huldra (talk) 20:44, 29 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Irondome, Huldra, EEng! I am preparing a speech, which will include a sit-down chicken dinner for all invitees and gatecrashers (until we run out). Softlavender (talk) 01:40, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations, Softlavender. Hope you do Southern style for us gatecrashers. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:24, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have rented out the Elks Lodge Banquet Hall! It's not gonna be fried chicken, but the dessert is gonna have whipped cream! This is gonna be legit professional. I guarantee it! Softlavender (talk) 00:55, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Why would you inflict this on Softlavender (or Buster, for matter, whoever that is)? What have they ever done to you? EEng 23:31, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Much Thanks to MarnetteD for re-awakening the distribution of a plaque to go along with the award. See Editor of the Week Hall of Fame Buster Seven Talk 14:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'll cheer for that! It was an honor for me to receive an EOTW, and to get a mention in the Hall of Fame, am glad to see it go to Softlavender. Shearonink (talk) 19:20, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Softlavender
Scenic Lavender Field
 
Editor of the Week
for the week beginning May 27, 2017
A hard-at-work 10+ year veteran with over 60,000 edits. 82 articles created. Her excellent diplomatic skills are a true example of the type of editor that is the backbone of this encyclopedia.
Recognized for
Outstanding negotiating and mediation skills
Notable work(s)
Creating and maintaining articles over a wide range of topics.
Nomination page
Oh myyyyy (as George Takei might say). Well, I'm speechless. My, my, my. I may have to wear my Sunday best while giving my speech at the Elks Banquet Hall. Thanks very much to all concerned. I really love that plaque! That is a very cool thing. :-) Thanks again! Softlavender (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Very well deserved! Bishonen | talk 17:47, 6 June 2017 (UTC).[reply]
Thanks Bish. You're invited to the chicken dinner too. Softlavender (talk) 06:35, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers! —PaleoNeonate - 03:30, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attack removed

In stark contrast to the above section, I have removed the personal attack / stupid bad taste joke you made at WP:AN. Please think twice before posting such things in such discussions, and please at least react when someone indicates that they have a problem with your post. Such comments do nothing to help the discussion and only confuse the situation, as they lack all context and are misplaced there. Fram (talk) 11:10, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 9 June 2017

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:18, 9 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tory Burch

I got this. El_C 10:08, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was, thanks very much, El_C. I was going to give you "thanks" a ping but sometimes that's hard to do with protections. Softlavender (talk) 10:13, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you reverting the semiprotection template, twice? El_C 10:17, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't notice that you had reverted the sock, which was what I was trying to do. I restored the semi icon as soon as I realized that was the diff, just now. Softlavender (talk) 10:20, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, cool. El_C 10:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, forgive my oversight; I'm in the middle of a Twitter DM (direct message) conversation with a historian which is indirectly related to some Wikipedia articles, so I've been toggling between a dozen windows and missed that little detail. :) Softlavender (talk) 10:44, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

for your work on the fox family

i got into a bit of a problem some months ago where I was trying to be more even handed about the naming convention of james fox (actor) and got interrupted mid way - and havent re-visited the scene of the crime - any suggestion e resolving the untouched remains - gratefully appreciated - if any of this makes no sense at all - can be more specifici with diffs (if I can find them ) JarrahTree 03:15, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JarrahTree, If you could be more clear (and also use correct capitalization and punctuation), and also link whatever articles you are referring to or wanting help with, and also be more precise as to what you are actually requesting, I might be able to reply cogently. Softlavender (talk) 03:24, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You have been recently editing articles relative to the Fox family. There is a problem there. In the last half hour you have edited Laurence Fox, James Fox, Edward Fox (actor) and Freddie Fox (actor). However lets leave it at that. Thanks for your reply. JarrahTree 03:43, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

JarrahTree, no one can read your mind and see a "problem there" if you do not describe what the problem is and what kind of assistance you would like. In addition, you have been here for more than 12 years and made more than 142,000 edits; please learn to nest your replies correctly under the post you are replying to using the appropriate number of colons. Softlavender (talk) 03:56, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your remark at Arbitration request

Without going into the content there, can I ask why you deleted the content I added to your first message? Thanks. Be good!238-Gdn (talk) 00:40, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I see now that you just moved it. Thanks. 238-Gdn (talk) 00:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I am inexperienced, but I am willing to learn from my mistakes. What steps do you suggest I take at this stage?238-Gdn (talk) 00:50, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@238-Gdn: I suggest focusing solely on content. I've given most of my advice in my posts at the ArbCom case request. You could start by choosing one issue which you feel is insufficiently resolved or insufficiently discussed, and starting a completely neutral and completely civil thread about it on the article talkpage, in an attempt to determine community consensus. If there is a deadlock or insufficient response, then neutrally request additional input from one of the WikiProjects listed on the article-talk banner, or ask for help from admin Zero0000. If that doesn't resolve the issue and establish a consensus, then choose a form of WP:DR to use. Since you are very new, you may also want to seek advice at the WP:TEAHOUSE. IMPORTANT: Never discuss article content on user talkpages -- only on article talkpages. Softlavender (talk) 01:19, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 23 June 2017

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:32, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on

This is to inform you that an attempt is being made to overturn an RfC that you voted on (2 RfCs, actually, one less than six months ago and another a year ago). The new RfC is at:

Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Allow private schools to be characterized as non-affiliated as well as religious, in infobox?

Specifically, it asks that "religion = none" be allowed in the infobox.

The first RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was "unambiguously in favour of omitting the parameter altogether for 'none' " and despite the RfC title, additionally found that "There's no obvious reason why this would not apply to historical or fictional characters, institutions etc.", and that nonreligions listed in the religion entry should be removed when found "in any article".

The second RfC that this new RfC is trying to overturn is:

The result of that RfC was that the "in all Wikipedia articles, without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the Religion= parameter of the infobox.".

Note: I am informing everyone who commented on the above RfCs, whether they supported or opposed the final consensus. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:26, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ANI - content dispute

That was one of the best edits I've seen at ANI for a while (I don't frequent it, but still). I've not always been that impressed with your contributions, so take this as very high praise. You've gone up in my estimation. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:13, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, although it's the same thing I post on ANI or ARC constantly. Maybe you need to get out more? ;-) Softlavender (talk) 12:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Now that is for sure. See my talk page. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:26, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2017

I intended to remove that "poll" once anyone presented any argument at all on the talk page, but got distracted away before doing so. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:17, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Debtors Anonymous

I do not agree, not even ANI or AN leave discussions without any new comments open for three months, maybe at BN but I suspect too long there also, 3 months is rediculous, but have it your way. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:59, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I

As you participated in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive957#Proposal: One-way IBAN on Godsy towards Legacypac, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Proposing IBAN between Godsy and Legacypac. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 03:12, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AN

Why do you archive discussions at AN and ANI? You do realise there's a bot configured to do this automatically at the appropriate time? GoldenRing (talk) 12:48, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Many threads go unattended to or under-attended to, especially by admins, if there are too many threads on a noticeboard, especially if many of them are quite long. Without closes and one-click archiving, ANI grows to 70–100 threads. With closes and then one-click archiving 24 or so hours after that, we are able to keep it down to, on average, less than 30 threads. Without closes and one-click archiving, many items do not get addressed or responded to at all, because they are lost in a sea of nearly a million bytes of black and white. (The purple-box closes also allow admins and other editors to easily see what does or does not need attending to.) All of this holds true at AN as well; although there is less of a need to one-click so quickly (because AN is less busy; however, bot-archiving is six days rather than three days there so it can get crowded), it's still important to clear the decks substantially when there is too much going on there and many huge threads are obscuring a few short ones. This system of purple-box closing and one-click archiving has worked very well, especially on ANI, for the past few years; we have increased the level of actual engagement with threads by a factor of 10 or more, rather than letting people's concerns get bot-archived without being addressed. Softlavender (talk) 02:29, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not so fussed about ANI, I guess, which tends to the dramatic-but-not-that-important. For threads at AN, some are quite important notices to administrators - do we just trust that you don't archive such things too quickly? GoldenRing (talk) 15:31, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't see this question till just now. I'm a Master Editor III, I've been here over a decade and made over 60,000 edits; I've made 3,523 edits to ANI and 345 edits to AN. If something very simple and perfectly straightforward is resolved, it's resolved, and doesn't need to stick around more than a few days. If you have any qualms about the threads I one-click archive you are free to revert, the same as I did to SNUGGUMS a couple of weeks ago: [4]. – Softlavender (talk) 21:41, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:BP (Band) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:BP (Band). Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 13:36, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I found the mainspace version, did a merge and redirect. Your edits were quite helpful.

I appreciate your calm and insightful contributions and I'd like to run a little friendly experiment with you. Legacypac (talk) 20:25, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Legacypac, I do not accept your running "a little friendly experiment" with me. Please do not do so; this is your only warning. Softlavender (talk) 05:50, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So sorry I was hoping to get some constructive feedback or thoughts on how to handle that. Experiment is long since over. Sorry it was not helpful for you. Legacypac (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

July 2017

Information icon Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Khan Shaykhun chemical attack, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. That template should not be removed before there is consensus on the talkpage that the issue has been resolved. Erlbaeko (talk) 07:43, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Please read this notification carefully, it contains important information about an administrative situation on Wikipedia. It does not imply any misconduct regarding your own contributions to date.

A community decision has authorised the use of general sanctions for pages related to the Syrian Civil War and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. The details of these sanctions are described here. All pages that are broadly related to these topics are subject to a one revert per twenty-four hours restriction, as described here.

General sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimise disruption in controversial topic areas. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to these topics that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behaviour, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. An editor can only be sanctioned after he or she has been made aware that general sanctions are in effect. This notification is meant to inform you that sanctions are authorised in these topic areas, which you have been editing. It is only effective if it is logged here. Before continuing to edit pages in these topic areas, please familiarise yourself with the general sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.

Erlbaeko (talk) 07:59, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Khan Shaykhun chemical attack

That article is subject to one revision in 24 hours. You made this and this which is two. I'm not sure about this as it was removing something added without consensus so I have brought it up at WP:AN in the section titled "Khan Shaykhun chemical attack". CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 11:34, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All human knowledge

Thanks. Did you see at the Village Pump Tech that here's an __INDEX__ template at the bottom of the page which overrides anything at the top? He's pretty stubborn. MfD? It's got about 60 userboxes linking to it. Maybe it should be somewhere else, but it shouldn't be indexed. Doug Weller talk 12:17, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. He's already breached 3RR removing the noindex/userpage codes. It needs to be summarily deleted, because he's just going to keep flouting Wikipedia rules and we can't babysit the article. Clearly he doesn't care about wiki policies. I'm taking it to ANI or AN. Softlavender (talk) 12:21, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Doug Weller talk 12:28, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

From ANI

I don't really want to do this at ANI as it's a bit public. You need to calm down and check things. To pick up on a few things from your comment at ANI:

  • I didn't say your notification of Erlbaeko was tit-for-tat; rather that his notification of you was.
  • The general sanctions on Syrian Civil War are not authorised by the arbitration committee and you can't take enforcement actions to the AE board (at least you can, but no-one will be interested because they're not arbitration remedies).
  • The processes around GS are not as well-documented as AC/DS, but even with AC/DS it is not necessary to alert an editor if the editor has given the same alert to someone else in the past year - see point three of WP:AC/DS#aware.aware. In the case of general sanctions, there is no requirement to notify every twelve months and, according to that very useful log, Erlbaeko has received a notification previously (from EdJohnston in 2015).
  • If, as you say, GS notifications are required and necessary before reporting someone at AE and so there is nothing wrong with you having done so, what is the big problem with Erlbaeko having notified you - especially when it is now well-established that you had just violated the GS in place? He has a fair history of issuing such alerts and you can hardly claim that he's singled you out. GoldenRing (talk) 15:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is no need to search through someone's contributions to see if they've left notifications because they're all supposed to be logged in the central notification log, which is why we're all here in the first place. In the case of Erlbaeko, a quick search through the current text of the notification log you were editing would have told you all you need to know as his name appears many times.
  • It is very much bad form to post a non-required notification and it can be the basis for sanctions - see WP:AC/DS#alert.dup.

I have not conflated anything; you appear not to have actually read the policy related to general sanctions, discretionary sanctions and alerts. GoldenRing (talk) 15:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The thread is not about Erlbaeko's talkpage template to me; it is about his logging at Wikipedia:General sanctions/Syrian Civil War and Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, but you appear to keep talking about his talkpage template to me, which is not what is under discussion, and since I had not logged at the GS/SCW, that wasn't tit-for-tat. Moreover, Erlbaeko had not received "more than one alert per area of conflict per year". As for everything else, please read my reply to BU Rob13. Softlavender (talk) 15:39, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, since you're supposed to log all GS notifications in the central log anyway I still really don't see the point of all this. If you didn't know about the log, fair enough. I've added a note to the relevant template's documentation pointing people gently in the direction of the notification log. As an admin who's activish in arbitration enforcement (and as Rob said at AN) I value the central logs; as you rightly point out, manually searching a user's history for notifications is a pain (though the DS notifications are at least meant to trigger an edit filter that makes searching easier; I don't know, off the top of my head, if the GS notifications do the same). I would gently point out, in response to your Moreover, Erlbaeko had not received "more than one alert per area of conflict per year" that you still don't seem to have grasped WP:AC/DS#aware.aware so let me spell it out: point 3 says In the last twelve months, the editor has given and/or received an alert for the area of conflict. Erlbaeko has given three such notifications in the past twelve months, according to the log. There is some ambiguity here, as WP:AC/DS#alert.dup only talks about duplicate notifications, not unnecessary notifications, which is why I described it as "exploring the edges of disruptive editing", not actual disruption. GoldenRing (talk) 16:02, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am moving this to the thread because there is no reason toi have a conversation in two places. Softlavender (talk) 16:05, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What's your problem?

Why do you object to both the AfD as-written, AND to any possible changes? Power~enwiki (talk) 22:14, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sock?

Hi Softlavender, Hope all is well, Would you say DreamLinker was in any way related to 118 alex - They'd created their account on the 4th of July and have been editing Delhi related things however they've now taken an interest in the Singapore bus terminals that I've AFD'd so wasn't sure if this was another Timothy S1 or whether I'm simply over thinking things ?,
Seems stupid to send everyone to SPI who edits a Singapore bus-related article so figured I'd ask you instead seeing as you're not easily fooled like some of us :),
Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 13:10, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Davey2010, I'm not sure but that does look extremely suspicious. I'm not an admin; I suggest either running this by the admins who were involved in the previous blocks and/or SPI, or re-opening the SPI on 118 alex, or both. Hope that helps. Softlavender (talk) 07:41, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Lowden

Just noticed this warning[5] you gave an editor. Not many people would realise this. See also this. Doug Weller talk 13:27, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Worrying misconception of the facts

Hi, I'm a little worried about the slanderous comments you've just made about me with regards to some "threats" I've supposed to have made on an unspecified date to an unspecified person. Could you please see your way clear to go back to ANI to provide a diff for these threats. This is a serious allegation and I'm keen to understand this further. If you've got this wrong, I'd be expecting to see a strike and an apology. If you don't, I'll bee seeking advice a couple of threads below my one. Thanks. CassiantoTalk 22:30, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 15 July 2017

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:48, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

YGM

Hello, Softlavender. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

-- sent you that study discussed at the Yanardag article. Look over pp 522-523 and then we can proceed. Montanabw(talk) 01:57, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert

There were 3 editors who all agreed the lists are redundant. The NYTimes timeline is redundancy - we don't need a photo of the NYTimes building. The other timeline is already in the prose. There was no justification to your reverting information that is purely redundant. Your actions are disruptive. Atsme📞📧 11:54, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

July 2017

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:57, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Whisperback

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. 07:35, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page assistance

Hello. Since I don't want to bother you any longer, I'd want to fix the talk page issues I had. So I was replying to the other user and not to you, that is why I put the same amount of colons as you (an additional one to what you are replying to). So, can you help me with this?--ZiaLater (talk) 05:04, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've now provided some instructions on your talkpage, which I have now watchlisted. If you have any further replies or questions, keep them there so the conversation stays together. Softlavender (talk) 08:07, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Take a look

Since you have been so involved with the article, I thought you'd be interested in this.--ZiaLater (talk) 10:56, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@ZiaLater: It seems to be strong evidence that E-DemSnoopy is (an agent of) the blocked COI sockpuppet E.Parisca. As far as what to do about it, I'd say it's either a case for WP:COIN; a possible WP:DUCK cause to re-open the SPI; or a case for ANI to ban that editor (and possibly Carriedelvalle23 as well) from the Smartmatic article; or all of those. I think E-DemSnoopy's additions to the article may bear reverting. Softlavender (talk) 03:48, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. If you could, make the decision on further actions that you deem necessary as you seem more experienced and I want to remain neutral in this event. I will provide comments and assist with the background when needed.--ZiaLater (talk) 06:16, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
ZiaLater, I'm honestly not sure when I would get around to that. If E-DemSnoopy continues to edit the article, I will probably take action. Also, if you feel his edits bear reverting, I will back you up if you revert them. The COI and POV SPAs are very entrenched in this article, so it and those accounts definitely need administrative oversight and action. It's just a matter of carefully proving the case. Clearly there is sufficient evidence. But, again, I'm not sure how much time I have to put into it at present. Softlavender (talk) 06:34, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I will see what I can do. If I have time, I will present a case.--ZiaLater (talk) 07:38, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I made a case on WP:COIN and WP:RFP. Also, some of E-DemSnoopy's edits could be reverted since they aren't really notable and are just filler in the article to promote Smartmatic. However, this is difficult for me since it somewhat balances the POV in the article. We can worry about this later since I am more concerned about further POV/COI edits. It seems that without protection, the article will have continuous accounts coming from nowhere.--ZiaLater (talk) 21:02, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ZiaLater, RFPP is the wrong venue and is not to be used for content disputes, COI editing, or behavioral problems. I've just now made a comment on the new COIN thread you started. I would also like to make an editing request: Please place your edit summaries after the title in the edit-summary field, where there is a space for them and where they belong. That's why there is an arrow that appears after the title when viewing the edit history of an article or viewing someone's contributions. Thank you. Softlavender (talk) 05:44, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My recent edit on the COIN should have the proper summary now. After all this time I never noticed this... (embarrassed).--ZiaLater (talk) 05:54, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

*Sigh*

You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Kudpung's talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:41, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

YGM. If the link didn't work, let me know. I've cleaned up the list. To get the red links you'll have to go through the list and put square brackets round the page names and save the list again. If you want anything else, let me know and I'll mail it to you. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:04, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MOAB

The event is in the article. If you can't see it, let me know and I'll show the words. Please stop making such pointy edits. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 5 August 2017

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ANI notice

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. jps (talk) 11:35, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's always good to refresh one's memory...

Wikipedia:Casting_aspersions Atsme📞📧 02:30, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Hillbillyholiday

Thanks for weighing in there. Hillbillyholiday has ceased the mass deletions and edit warring, but, like I stated at WP:ANI, I'm certain that the disruption will start back up again. Hillbillyholiday is just biding his time, waiting for the matter to cool down, and will be right back at it afterward. I'm not sure that I want to be the one to start a WP:ANI thread on this editor in the future, especially when there are administrators not paying attention to the case or giving it the serious attention it deserves. You are at WP:ANI a lot more than I am, and administrators might be more willing to listen to you if you start a thread on the editor in the future. In the past, administrators would be more concerned about any WP:ANI thread I started, but it's a different story these days (for whatever reason). Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:15, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And, yeah, I know that the weekends (especially Sundays) are slow on Wikipedia, but still. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:21, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flyer22 Reborn, I'm not interested in reporting an editor I don't have a dispute with. On ANI I only provide my view of things that are reported, upon looking at the evidence. I only rarely have an issue with an editor that requires me to report at ANI, and that is the only time I file a report. Softlavender (talk) 02:19, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

Just saw your ping today re the sockpuppet investigation for Caesar's ghost. I was on holiday (in the Basque country, ironically enough) so now I'm back I'll keep an eye on those articles. Valenciano (talk) 11:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Could you please join the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Appeal_of_community_sanctions_placed_on_User:Barts1a Twitbookspacetube 12:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Softlavender&oldid=796851358"