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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

• ... that the lyric video for an Olivia Rodrigo song included a teaser that she would tour in support of her album Guts?

Sorry but it is not making sense to me why the interesting part needed to be snipped...? Sources like Billboard magazine clearly document the tour as having been announced on September 13, a whole five days after the lyric video's release. This got rid of the interesting part, which was supposed to be the hinting of the tour in an easter egg before its announcement.--NØ 03:44, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

This issue was addressed a day or two ago on this page, see this diff. Gatoclass (talk) 03:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm not seeing anything interesting here at all. "Musician announces tour" is routine. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 12:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

• * In the 7th hook at "in support of her album Guts?", should there be the question mark ({{-?}}) template ? JennyOz (talk) 05:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

   Done, noting it'll need to be undone if the hook is changed to move "Guts" away from the question mark. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:22, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Next-but-one DYK

• ... that cyclist Daniela Larreal competed in five Olympic games for a country that exiled her?

No, she competed in five Olympic games for a country that would later exile her, per the article. I guess the wording isn't technically incorrect since they're both in past tense, but the heavy implication is that Larreal competed from exile. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:39, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Done RoySmith (talk) 03:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(October 11, tomorrow)

Monday's FL

(October 14)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

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General discussion

"In the United States, the Democratic Party wins control of the Senate..."

Not true. They have won 48 out of 100 seats. The only thing they accomplished was preventing the Republicans from maintaining their majority, which is all they could do ever since the results of the regular elections. "Winning control" hasn't been on the table for them since then. A50E10AN500ER (talk) 13:12, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

A50E10AN500ER 48 Democrats plus 2 independents who caucus with them equals 50, plus Kamala Harris makes control- and that is how reliable sources report it. 331dot (talk) 13:28, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

How does Harris make control? Does she have an overriding vote? HiLo48 (talk) 23:15, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, she has the deciding vote in the event of a tie. Stephen 23:33, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. HiLo48 (talk) 01:14, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Something I need to tell you

The CSD tag on talk was a test to see if a CSD tag can be placed on protected pages, it was not vandalism. --🔥LightningComplexFire🔥 13:53, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Rioters storming US Capitol

When I'm logged out, the page width causes the first ITN entry to appear thus:

Rioters supporting Donald Trump storm the United States Capitol (pictured),
disrupting certification of the presidential election and forcing Congress to evacuate.

And when I'm logged in, the page width is different (I use Monobook), so the entry appears thus:

Rioters supporting Donald Trump storm the United States Capitol (pictured), disrupting certification
of the presidential election and forcing Congress to evacuate.

To me, the first layout is mildly problematic: the second line is longer than the first, making it somewhat less clear where the first blurb ends and the second starts. Yes, I know there are bullets at the left end, but they're less distinctive than when the second line of the first blurb is clearly shorter than the first, as in when I'm logged in. (1) Is this perspective shared by others, or am I unusual? (2) If it's shared by others, is there any way that we could tweak something (maybe with CSS?) so that the first is longer than the second? If this were a permanent thing, I'd suggest that we place a nowrap around certain words so that they'd always appear together, regardless of browser settings, but obviously this would take a ton of time and testing to do manually every time, and the only other way I can envision to force this (tweaking wording of blurbs) would be ridiculous. Nyttend (talk) 13:20, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

@Nyttend: when you are logged out you are almost certainly viewing the page in vector (assuming you are using the web view) - so that is already going to be a big styling difference. This may also vary based on your resolution; we normally would only no wrap items that are very useful to keep together, like the units identifier with a number. Do you want a specific word on this specific blurb addressed - or just want to discuss this condition in general? — xaosflux ^Talk 14:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it's Vector. I'm mentioning this blurb only as an example; I really just want to discuss the condition in general. I only brought in nowrap to say "I know this wouldn't work". Nyttend (talk) 15:16, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

This is not fundamentally something we can or should control. Mobile display particularly is damaged by attempts to control where words wrap. --Izno (talk) 15:22, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

So then we can't tell the CSS to render the last line's length no more than a certain percentage of a previous line's length? Nyttend (talk) 15:41, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

No. Certain percentage of container for a specific arbitrary passage. Or start a new line with a paragraph or new list bullet would be ways. Both of which are content decisions and/or impact the total column length of course. All of it arbitrary at that point though. --Izno (talk) 16:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

What is "demesne"?

off the main page --Jayron32 15:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
In the "did you know" section about Rostellan, demesne should be WikiLinked! I had to look it up.Kokopelli7309 (talk) 03:03, 9 January 2021 (UTC) I don't know about you, but I knew the word "demesne" back in primary school.--WaltCip-(talk) 21:28, 10 January 2021 (UTC) Play some Crusader Kings II and you'll get it. ;) The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 21:41, 10 January 2021 (UTC) I never heard the word before. I'm an American. Its it a British word? Dream Focus 23:05, 10 January 2021 (UTC) It's certainly not common. Wikilinking would be sensible, AND polite. HiLo48 (talk) 23:12, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

The dinosaur and the British penny

off the main page --Jayron32 15:04, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
I'm surprised to see, on the main page under Featured Article, a photograph of a dinosaur tooth, with a British penny for size. I know that happens in articles, but I know that it's specifically discouraged--with good reason. I myself have been to England several times--but now it's been a few years (and I've been to several other countries since then), and I'm trying to remember what the British penny looks like and how big it is. In addition to that, they've changed the size of the penny in my own lifetime. At least, they did so with decimalization; the old penny (pounds, shillings and pence) was about the size of the OLD, CLASSICAL U.S. silver dollar (NOT the current ones). Have they changed the penny since? I'm not even sure. I do know they've changed at least one coin SINCE decimalization. (The five new pence coin was originally the same size as the old shilling, since under the conversion they were mathematically equivalent, so they made the new coin to be interchangeable with the old; later they made a smaller 5 P.) And all this is really extraneous anyway, for someone who has never been there and never seen a British penny. Uporządnicki (talk) 12:16, 10 January 2021 (UTC),, Odd, the old British penny has not been UK currency for nearly fifty years! David J Johnson (talk) 13:12, 10 January 2021 (UTC) It's all pretty pointless given there's a scale on the diagram in any case. The British decimal penny might as well not be there. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:20, 10 January 2021 (UTC) Hmm! I see that in my own--uhm--zealousness? to jump on things, I completely overlooked that rather conspicuous detail. I see now that it is the current British penny (I did have to go and look it up--but then I'm fretting about the size of the coin, and not the size of the tooth). Point taken! But I do happen to be well over 50. (On the other hand, by the time I first set foot in Merry Olde England, as a young man, the shillings and the 240 pence to the pound WERE history--albeit recent history.) Uporządnicki (talk) 13:40, 10 January 2021 (UTC) You already have the metric system measurement there for the rest of the world, why not have an American penny so Americans can know the size? And doesn't America have the largest economy in the world anyway, so its penny would be more widely recognized? Dream Focus 14:04, 10 January 2021 (UTC) American penny?? C'mon, just ditch the penny altogether, the measurement is there, we don't need this divisive conversation on whose penny makes more sense. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:03, 10 January 2021 (UTC) "The Dinosaur and the British Penny"? That sounds like some weird crossover between Batman and Encyclopedia Brown written by Agatha Christie..... and I now desperately want to read that book. --Khajidha (talk) 21:00, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Alt texts

I think, and this also concerns the future of the Main Page (MP), we should include alt texts in images to make it more accessible to those using screen readers. I believe there's a parameter for that on MP templates. GeraldWL 15:20, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gerald Waldo Luis: I'm seeing the alt text, for example we have the image File:Peter Badcoe c.1950's P00942.002.JPG and it includes img alt="Peter Badcoe, c. 1954" . Are you seeing something different? If so, are you using desktop view, mobile view, or mobile app? — xaosflux ^Talk 16:22, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit number 1,000,000,000 on English Wikipedia

In about 40 hours, two days before Wikipedia's 20th birthday on January 15, we'll reach edit number 1,000,000,000. (See Wikipedia:Time Between Edits#Projections for details.) I think that's a reason to celebrate! Are there any plans to post something to the main page? I'm not acquainted with the processes for this page... — Chrisahn (talk) 05:48, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Didn't we do something similar recently? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:40, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Last year we had a red banner underneath the Wikipedia globe logo to commemorate a certain number of articles created. ~ HAL333 14:50, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't think this is as "reader centric" as the x'th article being available for main page inclusion; I wouldn't be too opposed to maybe a short duration watchlist notice of "Congratulations on revision X, EDITOR" with a link to somewhere discussing it (WP:VPM maybe?) — xaosflux ^Talk 16:26, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm thinking whatever we're doing to celebrate the anniversary, just mention "and recently received its billionth edit" or something? —valereee (talk) 18:01, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

@The ed17 and Ed Erhart (WMF): was WMF planning any CN banners for the birthday? — xaosflux ^Talk 19:49, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for pinging me! Tagging the community lead for the project Selsharbaty (WMF). Ed Erhart (WMF) (talk) 20:01, 11 January 2021 (UTC)