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Hello my name is LB22 and was looking around Wikipedia and found your page. It struck me how much we are alike! You like F1, I like F1(I am a chief editor and founder of the WP:F1 newsletter), I like Warriors also. The only difference is that you like Arsenal!! :| I support Chelsea!! Happy editing hope to hear from you soon LB22 (talk to me!)Email me! 21:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


Thanks 4 replying!! I have finished Dark River from po3 series - book 2. I would like to get Outcast though!! I could only briefly look at the wiki but I noticed what you called the 6th book! Its name is now called Sunrise!! I won't give anything away...! LB22 (talk to me!)Email me! 17:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC) Ps I used to have an F1 wiki on wikia! Why not look!

He he

He he! LB22 (talk to me!)Email me! 17:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (January)

Cs-wolves(talk) 21:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Hamilton page


I noticed you undid your edit - did you manage to put it in correctly ? I take it you wanted it to say "SS Indus (1945)|"

if you didnt manage did you want me to do it or are you going to try again?

cheers--Chaosdruid (talk) 20:25, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Re:2008 German Grand Prix

Well, first of all, welcome to the project! One good thing about everyone doing the same kind of article is that it's easier to help the others, as the same problems generally arise. I'd still probably call it C-classed, with references being the major problem (the race is largely uncited). There's also a little jargon ("Both Heidfeld and Button later said that they suffered from tire graining during this session.") But really, there's not much to be concerned about. I'd say merge practice and qualifying, so you have the same format as this year's two FAs (Japan and Brazil). You're definitely on the right track, though. Apterygial 23:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

The article looks good - you could nominate it for a peer review to see if there are any other minor problems that need fixing, similar to the ones Apterygial has raised.--Diniz(talk) 20:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and you need to add a 'Background' section. It's fairly easy, just copy the first paragraph from the equivalent section in the 2008 Japanese Grand Prix article, adapt the second, and add a little about the circumstances of the Championships heading into the race. Apterygial 10:07, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
References are encouraged to be from 'reliable sources' at any stage of creation, although at stubs, start-class, c-class you'd probably be right in saying anything is better than nothing. For Good Articles or Featured Articles however the criteria states that references must be present and must be from reliable sources. As you say, taking them out wouldn't be any good. Are you putting "2008 German Grand Prix" into Google with quotes? If so, that could be limiting your results as rarely does that exact phrase appear in an article. My tip would be to manually search some of the reliable sources. This can be achieved in Google by searching for
2008 German Grand Prix
Notice no quotes are used. You can replace with any reliable source, e.g. etc. (see the current GA/FA to get an idea of what the reliable sources are considered to be). Alternatively go into the F1 news section of and browse manually back through the news archive to the time this Grand Prix was held. There are a couple of things that are easily sourced from the Autocourse book (official race name, championship standings tables). Assuming you don't have a copy, you can try asking D.M.N. or Diniz nicely if they'd be willing to source that stuff for you. AlexJ (talk) 12:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

If I was doing this article, these sources I would regard as invaluable: [1], [2], [3], [4] (which I'm aware will rot), [5] and [6]. Use them and you can't go wrong. Apterygial 23:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:2008 German Grand Prix Autosport book refs

I think you mean Autocourse, not Autosport? Anyway, I must apologise as I am at university at the moment and don't have access to it. I shall be back by the end of March, although I believe D.M.N. has it as well.--Diniz(talk) 17:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

By the way, when you've finished responding to Apterygial and AlexJ's peer review comments, let me know and I'll be happy to give my opinion of the article as well.--Diniz(talk) 00:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 Done - D.M.N. (talk) 16:08, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (February)

Cs-wolves(talk) 10:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Insane Idea newsletter (March)

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Re:2008 German Grand Prix

I've taken a look at the article and left some comments on the peer review page.--Diniz(talk) 22:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

There are quite a few quotations from McLaren people in the AUTOCOURSE and Autosport sources; I'll post them soon so you can choose which one(s) would be suitable for the article. I'll copyedit the article soon as well; unfortunately I'm out this evening so you will have to wait until tomorrow at least. Now that I'm back home and have read the sources, there are also some small details I can add when doing so.--Diniz(talk) 19:35, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay! I've now posted all the McLaren-related quotations I could find on the talk page. Let me know if and when you have incorporated any of them into the article; I will then start the copyediting.--Diniz(talk) 18:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
All done! Please let me know if you have any queries about the changes I've made.--Diniz(talk) 02:18, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

There's nothing major that needs doing to the article, but a copyedit is required. I'd make it easier for Diniz by making sure the simple WP:MoS problems are under control: driver names and linkages (there's still some points where the drivers' full names are given in subsequent mentions), and just make sure all refs follow some form of punctuation (not including dashes). I'd probably just expand the last paragraph in the "Race" section so it covers every driver, so everyone you introduce throughout the article gets their whole story. After that, Diniz can give you the green light to take it to GAN. Good work, and good luck! Apterygial 23:12, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! Apterygial 13:55, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Fell Beast -> Nazgûl

I say go for it. There seems to be broad consensus. Perhaps a mention could be made in List of Middle-earth animals as well to satisfy those who suggested that and to cover all the bases... -Thibbs (talk) 16:32, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


Re your edit [7] -- did you check the referenced text? Tolkien did originally spell "Melkor" as "Melko", and the text in question is a quote. Elphion (talk) 21:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


Thank you very much, and sorry that I failed to correct a couple of typos I made! Here's to a successful GAN.--Diniz(talk) 17:33, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

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Hate to break this to you, but I think you need to file the articles more directly in the categories, under "Grand Prix". So 2009 Spanish Grand Prix would go into the category as [[Category:2009 in Spain|Grand Prix]]. Apterygial 09:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Just "Grand Prix". The reasoning for the this is that anyone looking at a category already knows that it's set in 2009, and that it is in Spain (par example), so the title of the GP is not necessary. Football topics should be under F, alcohol should be under A and the Grand Prix should be under G, even the European Grand Prix, which is really just another Spanish Grand Prix, but by a different name. It might as well be called the Iberian Grand Prix! Apterygial 23:47, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (March)

Cs-wolves(talk) 12:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Shiny thing!

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For your fantastic work getting 2008 German Grand Prix to GA, and your continued commitment to my insane idea, you deserve this. Nice work. Apterygial 02:48, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:2008 Turkish Grand Prix ref

Well, the question is whether you need it. If you can write the entire article in its absence (and you can) you can remove it as a source. It was probably hooked up to a ref at some point, but your re-writing broke that. Apterygial 23:46, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:2008 Turkish Grand Prix PR

I'll have more. I'm sorry for not moving terribly quickly, I'm a little busy in real life at the moment. I think you should get onto some copyeditors before you take it to GAN though, the grammar needs some tightening up. Apterygial 09:38, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

I think I've got all the problems I can find. Nice job. Apterygial 23:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

F1 2009 (video game)

Sorry, my intention wasn't to revert your edits but removed other unsourced edits. I've added a note regarding the sequel. D.M.N. (talk) 19:48, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:2008 Turkish Grand Prix copyedit

I'm busy at the moment, but I'll get down to it when I can. :) --Diniz(talk) 19:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I've copyedited the whole article, except for the race section. I've also left some comments on the talk page which, amongst other things, explain why I haven't done the race section yet.--Diniz(talk) 20:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Almost finished! :) There's another talk page comment and some invisible notes in the article itself.--Diniz(talk) 16:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
That's much better! All finished, good luck with the GAN. :) --Midgrid(talk) 18:20, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

April Newsletter

Chubbennaitor 20:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2008 Turkish Grand Prix

Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article 2008 Turkish Grand Prix you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 14 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. SilkTork *YES! 15:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

This should be quick and easy. Points noticed so far: the lead goes into too much detail of the race and could be cut back, while other details, such as the collapse of Super Aguri, should be in there. The images are not from the race. Take a look on Flickr to see if there are any action shots available. SilkTork *YES! 18:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2008 Turkish Grand Prix

The article 2008 Turkish Grand Prix you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:2008 Turkish Grand Prix for eventual comments about the article. Well done! SilkTork *YES! 13:58, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Good work

Awarded by SilkTork for Good Works in Formula One


I've just looked through your contributions - you've done some good work on the encyclopedia. Well done. We need more content editors like yourself.

Keep up the good work! SilkTork *YES! 14:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Turkish Barnstar of National Merit award

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Please accept this Turkish Barnstar of National Merit for your fine work to get 2008 Turkish Grand Prix to GA level. I hope you will elevate it also to FA status. CeeGee (talk) 19:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: 2008 French Grand Prix qualifying

Well, the first question you have to ask is: "what is qualifying for?" If the answer is "to see who can do the fastest single lap" then you have a problem. If the answer is "to determine grid positions", then the problem is reduced. If you favour the latter approach (as I do) then the line in the article Hamilton qualified third is wrong. I toyed around with how to explain this more in a coherent manner, and ended up fiddling with the paragraph itself, the results of which (sans references) are shown below (needs a little bulking out with why certain drivers were quicker than others, though).

Apterygial's quali paragraph

Räikkönen clinched pole position, taking Ferrari's 200th pole, with a time of 1:16.449. He was joined on the front row of the grid by team-mate Massa. Alonso qualified third after Hamilton's penalty moved the quicker McLaren driver to 13th; Toyota's Jarno Trulli qualified fourth. Kovalainen would have started from fifth, but was given a five-place grid penalty for blocking Webber during qualifying and would start from 10th on the grid. Kubica, Webber, David Coulthard, Timo Glock and Piquet rounded off the top ten. Heidfeld qualified 11th, with Vettel ahead of Hamilton in 12th, and Bourdais behind in 14th. Rosberg was next quickest, but after his penalty demoted him to the back of the grid his team-mate Kazuki Nakajima took his place. The final four places went to the Honda and Force India teams, with Button qualifying ahead of Barrichello, Fisichella and Sutil. Barrichello, however, was given a penalty for changing his gearbox, meaning that he started 20th on the grid, one place behind Rosberg.

Do with this what you would. I won't be able to give a detailed review of the article for a little while as I'm quite busy at the moment off-wiki, but I'll get there when I can. Apterygial 10:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (May)

Cs-wolves(talk) 02:11, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (June)

--Midgrid(talk) 16:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

F1 2010 (video game)

Just wondering if you can do me a favor on the F1 2010 (video game) vandalism issue. Still not eligible for semi-protection because of the autoconfirmed vandalism, but if you could throw a warning template on the vandals' talk page when you revert I can block the vandals after a few warnings. The {{uw-unsourced}} series and {{uw-error}} series are good for this. I'd suggest starting with a level 2 warning on these, as I'm sure these edits are not accidental.

I'll go back and warn the people for the last day or so, but if you could warn on your reverts going forward it would be a huge help. Thanks!--Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:16, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


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Re: Insane Idea

Well, if you are still eager to do 2008 articles, you can do 2008 European Grand Prix, as I won't have time to do much for a bit and I still have to do the re-write of 2008 Belgian Grand Prix and take it to FAC. By the way, you have helped (I can't seriously believe we are this far along!) Apterygial 08:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Young-Earth Creationist

No, problem; keep up the good work! Invmog (talk) 19:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

One Ring

See response on my talk page. Elphion (talk) 14:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (July)