User talk:Voceditenore

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Hey

Oi, you haven't put your email into your preferences!

Only reason I noticed is that I usually ask this privately, but anyway...fancy a shot at RFA? I would be happy to nominate you. Best, Moreschi (talk) (debate) 22:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

• Oi, Moreschi, I've sent you an email so you'll have my address if you ever need it. Thanks for the offer and your confidence. But... admin-ing would take too much time away from what I really enjoy – writing articles, rescuing worthy kittens from being drowned at AfDs, and helping out on the Opera Project. The latter can provide quite enough wiki-drama as it is. ;-). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

See also [1]. Voceditenore (talk) 10:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

It was a delight...

...to read this brilliant piece. And I wasn't even looking for it; I came here to thank you for backing me up on the GA issue on Egardus, since that's something that's been bugging me for a while and had to get off my chest. But your essay was spot-on. Oops, there I go again, pretending to be an adult! Need to get a bouncier, animated signature ... Antandrus (talk) 23:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll make you one if you promise to give me three barnstars. ;-) Seriously, though thanks for the kind review. I wrote that when WP was in the midst of an invasion by a particularly... er... time-consuming... bunch of 13 year olds. At one point there was even a WikiProject (now deleted) that was awarding them barnstars for every 1000 edits, every 50 AfD's "voted on", every 5 (hapless) editors they adopted, etc., etc.. For a while, I and a couple of other editors spent all our time running around cleaning up after them, until they lost interest and/or got blocked. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Much appreciation

Hi, Voceditenore. Thanks for the beautiful rewrite on John Andrew Rea. I would prefer not having to delete noteworthy articles, but the current backlog at copyright violations leaves me little time to revise much text. (Especially in Moonriddengirl's absence.) I just wanted you to know that I very much appreciate your contributions. Cheers. — CactusWriter | ^needles 06:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome ;-) and you were absolutely right to delete it. If you have time, could you do me a favour? I've re-written Juliette Pochin on Talk:Juliette Pochin/Temp. Would it possible to move it into article space. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:33, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Done. Another nice job -- and better still was your discussion with the original creator on the talk page. "...Teach a man to fish..." etc. You're a good teacher. Cheers. — CactusWriter | ^needles 16:13, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! In my university teaching days, I once had a student who plagiarsed my own book in her essay. But at least it took some effort, bless her. She typed it out from the hardcopy — must have taken ages. Re "teaching how to fish...", I'm not sure how many new fishermen it produces for Wikipedia. In the Opera Project we get a lot of articles for singers, opera companies, etc. created by their agents and PR people, and sometimes themselves. In my experience, the best I can hope for is that they'll edit their article according to the guidelines in future. I have yet to find one who has ever contributed anything else to Wikipedia. Their only interest in the project is as a PR tool. Having said that, at least it results (after much red-pencilling from other editors) in one new article on a notable subject that we didn't have before. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for teaching me also, about every singer to opera and avoiding answers.com! I keep supplying singers to the project who never sing opera, last Dorothee Mields. When I found a Bach singer who also sang opera I nominated that fact for DYK, Franz Kelch, to be 95 this year, no PR involved. Unfortunately the only source for him I found in English reads like a machine translation. Any help in that case? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

My god, plagiarizing the prof's own book -- that's sadly funny -- the very definition of clueless. I would suggest she switch majors. I know what you mean about bulk of submissions coming from PR types. (It's one of the reasons I refrain from offering copyright violators much opportunity to license the source website -- the promotional text couldn't be used anyway.) But, occasionally, unexpectedly, when the stars align just so... you'll come across a true angler among the crowd of daytrippers. When is that next blue moon anyway? — CactusWriter | ^needles 19:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Assistance Please

Hello Voceditenore. Would you please check my user talk page? Some time ago you were assisting me in the creation of a new page, ".Gabriel". As you requested, I posted my request on that page but haven't heard from you. I understand you are very busy but would really appreciate your help. Thank you!TF537 (talk) 21:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Infobox

Please see edit request. In the meantime, you can use put the alt in the image parameter. e.g. |image=[[File:example.png|200px|alt=Example alt text]] Racepacket (talk) 21:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

• Image_alt parameter has been added to {{Infobox play}} Racepacket (talk) 22:16, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

• Great! Thanks so much! I'll add it to La Tosca. I used your "get-around" for the book infobox at I Love Bacon!. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:06, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Coming of Age (BBC TV series)

I would question why the BBC are allowed to vandalise the page and put blatant propaganda on there suggesting that the response to the programme was mixed in some way, when in fact it was universally appalling. Every time real and referenced reviews are put up, they are taken down by some BBC apparatchik dickhead. Why are they not censored? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.176.103 (talk) 18:06, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with "real and referenced reviews" being taken down. You deliberately inserted false and in several cases defamatory content about living people in multiple articles related to this show, as well adding as your personal commentary disguised to make it look as if it were a quote referenced from a reliable source, e.g. [2], [3], [4], [5]. You are going to get your IP, aka Oxford University, blocked if you keep it up. Voceditenore (talk) 18:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Travesti/Victorian burlesque

Tim just did a nice job expanding the Victorian burlesque article. Does anything need to be added back and forth between this and the Travesti article that you are working on? Just a thought. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

What do you think of the current merge proposal at Burlesque (literature)? I wonder if merging it into the poorly-written Burlesque article will destroy any value (or chance at expansion) that it may have. Your comments would be valued at Talk:Burlesque. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, V. You may find this article of interest: http://www.jstor.org/pss/3826405 -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:20, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Steve. I'm going to file this away for when I next add to Travesti. I've still got a bit to do re the ballet sections. But I never seem to get the time. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Keto and Kote

Many thanks for re-establishing this article. During copy-edit driving I found the previous version a complete copy-and-paste violation from inception; I was the one who tagged for deletion. I have to say your succinct but elegant stub is superb, and should be set as an example of “how to do it”’. I have a tendency to reduce faulty articles to the brusque and barren, so I will log your Keto and Kote as a guiding light. In admiration. Acabashi (talk) 03:24, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Castrato parts

Hehe :) Moreschi (talk) 17:38, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Above comment is in response to this. Voceditenore (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Burlesque

Thanks for watching the dead links. It's a big shame that the PeoplePlayUK site went down, as it had a huge amount of info for Victorian articles. I think that most of the content migrated somewhere, but I'm not sure where. Any idea? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:03, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, the only dead link was PeoplePlayUK. The other 2 were spam/copyvio. Anyhow, the Theatre Museum's contents are now held by the Victoria & Albert. See the V & A's Theatre and Performance collections page. If you search the V & A collections, the online objects generally come with a lot of informative text in addition to the image. See this, for example. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:40, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Carmen

I have finished my work on this. The peer review threw up some interesting suggestions, many of which have been absorbed into the article. It is now at FAC (please take a look), and I am working on improving and extending the discography subarticle. I have not done anything with the "adaptations" which were removed from the older version of the article, and it may be a while before I can get to deciding what should be done here. Brianboulton (talk) 18:16, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations on getting it to FA, Brian! I'm going to be away for the next 2 weeks and wouldn't be able to help with an "adaptations" page anyway. One of the advantages of page like that is to keep all sorts of minor (and often very trivial) distractions out of the main article. A popular work like this is particularly prone to that kind of stuff, often added "drive-by" without references or context. But let's see how it goes. There may not be a need for an "adaptations", at least in the near future. By the way, can you get the Carmen Filmography link to work? I can't and have tried multiple times. :/ Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I will continue improving the discography article as time permits. In due course I'll open a rudimentary "adaptations" article for the purpose you describe; it won't be long before the trivia merchants start tampering with the main article. It went through the FAC process so smoothly and swiftly that I can't help an uneasy feeling that something important got missed. Brianboulton (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Smithsonian updates website!

Hi Voceditenore! The Smithsonian Institution Archives took notice of your finding about Clara Hasse's death date and will be updating their records, website and Flickr! The changes should take place tomorrow. So thanks for the great find! Sarah (talk) 14:23, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. It's nice to see that the traffic between Wikipedia and its sources goes both ways. Last year I got the Encyclopedic Discography of Victor Recordings at UCSB to change a glaring error on their database which found while I was researching Stanislao Gastaldon. In the process, I discovered another and even more whopping error in New Grove Dictionary of Opera which had been propagated all over the internet, but that's Grove's problem. OK, now I'm off to give the Harvard library system a nudge over this. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Tobias

Apologies if this is in the wrong place (finding out how to contribute to Wikipedia is a very steep learning curve and I've only just learnt Joomla, brain hurting!). Huge thanks for the rewriting and reformatting of the article on Dove's Tobias and the Angel. I'd only just discovered it was there and found it was so incomplete and inaccurate it needed some serious input. Having been in the project from the very beginning I felt I had the authority to write on it, and did post some material from my website - hadn't realised this seems to count as conflict of interest. But it certainly doesn't violate copyright which presumably belongs to me, and I'd like to be able to insert a photo of the Birmingham production, would this be allowed? I'd be very grateful if you had time to help me on this. Kate Quartano Brown (talk) 15:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Little favour

A while back I did some work de-fluffing Richard Gombrich. I think it still needs some more, but I have a little learning to the most dangerous degree and can't really see the wood for the trees. I'm pretty sure the structure is still hagiographic. May I ask if you could do a quick brisk hacking back of the undergrowth? Am pretty sure that the list of publications goes way beyond the notable, too. Amuse yourself by reading how it looked five years ago almost-instinct 12:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks

I'm grateful for your clear explanation and kind welcome on my first interaction with Wikipedia. The format here is slightly intimidating and I'm wary of breaking taboos or upsetting anyone so your breakdown and reassurance was greatly appreciated. :-)

SonnySonnyWilliamson (talk) 11:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Giovanna Gray

DYK gong archived here. Voceditenore (talk) 09:35, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I just wanted to say, nice job on the Giovanna Gray article. Going to the old, foreign language sources is something not everyone can do, and it makes a big difference. David.thompson.esq (talk) 13:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, David. I had a lot fun writing that. Most of the articles I write tend to be of this type, e.g., Cristina, regina di Svezia, Mala Pasqua!, Stanislao Gastaldon, Andrea Salvadori, Eugenia Tadolini. I figure that for the really famous composers, operas, singers, etc. there are plenty of online sources, but for these, the only place people will be able to find detailed information, in English, and free of charge is Wikipedia. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Image

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004008982/resource/

What do you think of this image, which also covers an opera singer without photo? Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 21:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

It's OK, but I'd never use it for Lillian Grenville. The one of her alone will be much better for that article. It's also a much more arresting image than this rather stilted duo. But this one would be good for Gustave Huberdeau and Natoma (kills 2 birds with one stone for that article). Voceditenore (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Here are some more possibilities for articles and future articles with no images:

• http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ggbain.00006/ for Eleonora de Cisneros

• http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004000007/ Josephine Jacoby (Met contralto)

The Bain collection is very badly annotated, I'm just plowing slowly through all the images and clicking on ones that likely to be opera singers. I may find some more...

Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Any idea which Stephano the Jacoby is? Niklausse is almost certainly Tales of Hoffmann, but I'm not sure off-hand about a Stephano trousers role. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:10, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I assume Roméo et Juliette she sang it many times at the Met at around the time that picture was taken [6], and her career was almost entirely at the Met. Voceditenore (talk) 19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Ah, thought that would've been too high for her, since Wikipedia labels it as a soprano part. If she sang it, though, it's probably that. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:58, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

The Met lists her as a mezzo-soprano (rather than contralto), and the role is frequently sung and recorded by mezzos, e.g. Kristine Jepson, Susan Graham, etc. Voceditenore (talk) 10:18, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Rosine Stoltz

Some time ago, you started the article on Rosine Stoltz. There is now a discussion about the date of her death. I wonder if you could consult your original sources and let us know. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:58, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Rosine Stoltz. Voceditenore (talk) 13:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Notre-Dame de Clignancourt

A most pleasing new article. I'll add the church to my itinerary for a vaguely-planned, Fauré-themed wander round Paris. Don't bother to reply to this: I just wanted to express my appreciation. – Tim riley (talk) 19:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Di Fiorino et al.

Ciao Voce. I hope this finds you well. Our paths once again cross in Mario Di Fiorino, and I notice your work in Gruppo del Rosario. There is a connection between Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry, the closely connected, newly created bios Maria Luisa Figueira and Mario Di Fiorino, as well as edits made by the same users in e.g. Davide Lazzeretti, Leonetto Amadei, Ganser syndrome, and Mind control. I reverted in Leonetto Amadei, and left a note on the editor's page, and subsequently tried to add info from the .it article Leonetto Amadei. (It appears that the Italian Leonette Amadei has had additions similar to the ones made to the English.) The English version has had the same material re-added. I restored an older version of Davide Lazzeretti. I have raised attention about this pattern (WP:COATRACK?) on WikiProject Medicine and WikiProject Psycholog, alas, not to much avail. Maybe it is something you would like to look into? Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 21:05, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sam, hmmm, yes, I've noticed this interesting little can of worms. On the Italian WP, some of their stuff has been deleted outright, e.g. Mario di Fiorino, Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry and Psichiatria e Territorio (also founded by Di Fiorino) or reverted in existing articles, e.g. Leonetto Amadei, Davide Lazzeretti. Often, however, a "new" editor pops up to re-add the stuff, as happens here. The editors also use the same arguments they use here: "It's in the Italian/English Wikipedia so it's ok".

Several of the SPAs active here have been blocked for sockpuppetry at the Italian WP [7], [8], [9]. I'm not sure if they're sock or meat puppets, but without getting into outing, Google searches on their user names reveal that all are from the Pisa/Forte dei Marmi/Viareggio area. A couple are students of Di Fiorino or his colleagues, one works for a hotel in Forte dei Marmi and helps organize functions for Di Fiorino's symposia, two have co-authored articles with Di Fiorino, one appears to be Di Fiorino himself, etc. etc. I would say that just about every red-linked contributor since August to the articles you've cited is in some way connected to Di Fiorino and all their contributions here need checking. Some of them have extensively edited psychology/psychiatry articles in addition to the ones you've mentioned. Note also this sandbox. There's obviously more to come.

Anyhow, here's my take on some of the articles:

• Maria Luisa Figueira passes, seems reasonably notable.
• Mario Di Fiorino probably just scrapes but I'm going to wield the red pencil extensively there.
• I'm going to stub Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry and probably redirect it later to Di Fiorino
• Suggest we keep a watch on Leonetto Amadei, clearly being used as a coatrack and needs excising and building up. He's definitely notable.
• Ditto Davide Lazzeretti.

If we meet resistance from the "consortium" of Tuscan editors, then we take 'em to WP:COI/N. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 22:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Beautiful to see the logic you apply when investigating, I learned a lot. Thanks! Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 00:04, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Want me to do {{cite books}} in the Publications section of Mario Di Fiorino? Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 09:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Caldara +

Thank you for the Caldara opera, here's another: La concordia de' pianeti [10], --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gerda. You're welcome :). I've added quite a bit more to it now. Apparently, Tito e Berenice was part of contest! I might do La concordia once the German performance actually takes place. In the meantime, I'll be working on creating the other two Operas of the Month, by papa Scarlatti and his son. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. After I closed my shop completely (see my talk, - I kept the ironing lady) I suddenly feel very busy with a man whose boss is the pope and a painter stub, not mentioning the GA nom for Chéreau. Did you see that I mention singing as occupation in my own (bzzt, unspeakable)? (Derived from "Singen, singen" in the Christmas Story by Schütz). In choir, we will concentrate on Schütz and Rutter, Magnificat by both, I hope I will get in the mood until July / October / November. Certainly not if we keep losing a great editor every week, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

*taps microphone*

Is it safe to come back....? almost-instinct 15:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Yep :) Great to see you, A-I! I miss those happy hours we spent de-pufferizing articles. I had to whack this one all by myself. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:56, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Mmmm maybe not so safe after all.... almost-instinct 13:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Ah, you mean below? I think you'll be OK . I only mention it if I'm specifically asked. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

It's not you I'm worried about ;) almost-instinct 11:19, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Anna Schoen-René

Hi voceditenore. I just read some interesting articles on this lady and thought you might enjoy penning an article on her. Here are some potential sources:

• http://www.nycommunitytrust.org/Portals/0/Uploads/Documents/BioBrochures/Mme.%20Anna%20E.%20Schoen-Rene.pdf
• http://books.google.com/books?id=oLAMtq6dtFkC&pg=PA21&dq=%27von+schoen%27+%22agriculture%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qU8NU6W3OaLiyAG2koCoCw&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q='von%20schoen'%20%22agriculture%22&f=false
• http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/48/v48i08p332-338.pdf

Best wishes.4meter4 (talk) 02:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow! She sounds like quite a character, 4meter4. I'm sort of up to my eyeballs at the moment, but I'll keep this here to remind me to get 'round to it eventually, if someone else doesn't first. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:44, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Sharon Ruchman

Thanks for your recent cleanup/removing promotional/un-encyclopedic information from Sharon Ruchman. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi David. I'm away until the end of April, but I'm rather minded to PROD it or take it to AfD. But I'll need to do a little research first. I had a look at the talk page of the reviewer who had accepted it. Dear Oh Dear. :) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:05, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey, thanks. Some of the articles on Gluck's major operas need more work, but I'm probably not going to touch them until next year. I thought I'd produce a bunch of stubs on the Baroque and minor Classical works then add to them bit by bit. I noticed you discovered the Gluck Gesamtausgabe online, a very useful find. Some of the information is very interesting. For example, I don't think there can be many operas where the entire cast was made up of archduchesses and the work was conducted by a future emperor.

BTW I think La danza (Gluck) is beyond start-class, at least C. There's not much you can really say about an opera Julian Rushton dismisses as "a slight work". The Penguin Guide to Opera on CD doesn't even bother trying to give synopsis, saying there is "no plot or development whatsoever." Having read the libretto, I can sympathise with that! Cheers.--Folantin (talk) 10:32, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Article on Leela Bordia

Hi

I have made some further inputs to the said Article on Leela Bordia. Please have a look at it and give me your suggestions on whether i am on the right path and plz guide regarding corrections if any, since i am just a beginner.

Regards

The iWriter ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by The iWriter (talk • contribs) 12:51, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello, The iWriter. I assume you mean the draft User:The iWriter/sandbox? I'll have a look at it later today or tomorrow. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 13:06, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Voceditenore

Yes plz and thanks

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Ada Cherry Kearton

You may remember doing some work on Ada Cherry Kearton. I thought you would like to now that the BBC now link to it, from http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/desert-island-discs/castaway/06c4739d#p009y95q - Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:49, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Andy. Thanks for letting me know. By the way, I haven't forgotten about David Ward, I've just been a bit busy with other stuff. I hope to get to it in the New Year. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:06, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Message from Lisaby

Hello Voceditenore. You may remember me from the Alessandra Marianelli bio.

I'd like to create one now for Sylvia Schwartz.

The main problem with my first attempt was that I didn't know how to evaluate the various sources of information I found. You considered many that I proposed as inadequate.

For Sylvia Schwartz, could I send you a list of the sources I've found (not their contents), so that you could tell me which to exclude?

Many thanks for all you do for Opera on Wikipedia,

Lisaby 18:29, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Lisaby. Many apologies for this late reply! I suggest that you list your proposed sources at User:Lisaby/Sylvia Schwartz. I'm about to be travelling for the next two weeks. But I will definitely have a look when I get back. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Íride Martínez

Hello, Thank you very much for updating the talk page of Draft:Íride Martínez. I would like to ask for advise on article review. Would you know where I could ask to have the article reviewed to see if it can be moved to the mainspace. Your help with this would be greatly appreciated.Besenok (talk) 19:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Besenok. I'm abroad at the moment with not terribly good internet access. But I'll try to review the draft when I get back in September, if I don't manage it before then. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 06:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Small World

Dear VdiT, Tonight, as I was suggesting to my brother that he join Wikipedia, I thought to show him the Butter Rebellion article that my daughter had written. Because I hadn't visited it in years, I checked the history, and who should I run into but your gracious self? I nearly fell off my chair. Thank you for protecting its integrity!

Thank you also for helping my Berklee students again this semester. Those who solicited your help were more than amply rewarded, and we were very grateful.

Best wishes to you for a happy Christmas and a joyous New Year. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 02:06, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi IJ! That's a real blast from the past—it was 2007 when I stumbled onto it—and an amazing coincidence. Happy Holidays to you too and all your family, especially your daughter. Voceditenore (talk) 19:47, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

New Year's Greetings

Dear VdiT, Thank you for your kind season's greetings to my students and me. You were a great help to the Berklee students last fall, particularly through the grace that you demonstrated when you wrote to the deleting editors. We'll strive to bring this year's user pages more in line with Wikipedia policies.

Speaking of which, both Longy and Berklee will participate this spring. May I recommend you to them?

My daughter Caroline loved the connection that we three have made.

All best wishes in the New Year. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 21:43, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page [11]. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:53, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Das öde Haus

Voceditenore, given your love for the story I thought you might be interested in creating an article on the 1817 novel by E. T. A. Hoffmann. See it:La casa disabitata and de:Das öde Haus. Not sure if there is any connection between the story of the novel and the story of Princess Amalie of Saxony's opera. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:36, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

• Hi 4meter4. No, there's no connection, despite the Italian WP article title. The standard English title for Hoffmann's short story is "The Deserted House". It's a spooky Gothic tale set in Berlin—not quite Princess Amalie's cup of tea. But... it's kind of fascinating in its own right. I think I'll give it a go. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:58, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

• Note to self: It's a Wonderful Life (opera). [12], [13]. Voceditenore (talk) 09:19, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Help with my first new page

Thanks--I'll take your advice on the FireKing stub-of-a-stub. I will expand it as I get time. Someone (you?) added a number of additional links to information which I'll attempt to incorporate. My primary intent for putting it up was to get opinions as to it's worthiness for inclusion. Thanks for the encouragement. This is my first non-minor edit to WP so I'll probably make some faux pas about which I will welcome advice and correction from you and other experienced editors. TBoaN (talk) 03:36, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi TBoaN! Yes 'twas I who added the refs. I couldn't resist. Have fun with it, take your time, and if you need any help just give e shout. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:40, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Richard Horowitz

I found this obit on baton maker Richard Horowitz fascinating and thought you might too. He was also the person who worked the longest for the Met according to Opera News; serving for many years a principal timpanist. Thought you might enjoy crafting an article. Best.4meter4 (talk) 23:39, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Brilliant, 4meter4! Another one for me to squirrel away. It would be fun to do an article on him. Voceditenore (talk) 18:47, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks, Voceditenore, for your gracious message. Having been on medical leave since the end of January, I'm sadly not sure who took over my courses. By September, though, I intend to be back at the helm, pointing new classes in your direction. Here's hoping that you enjoy your April break. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 15:25, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Back at work

Hi, VdiT,

What a joy to read your Talk page, chuckling and sometimes laughing aloud at all that you've been up to this year, especially a discussion that resonated in these quarters about going out of copyright. I'm back at work after too long a leave, with a Berklee class that's proving to be the best to date. If we might impose upon you to be our Good Angel again, I'd be grateful. Stay well. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 20:38, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi IJ! Great to see you back! Of course I'll be happy help and look forward to seeing your students' work. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:11, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, dear VdiT. We'll start showing up soon. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 19:45, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Focusandlearn

Thanks for your comments about the articles they created and sorry for not responding. They've announced their retirement today which I guess is an indirect admission that they are a paid editor. One of the article subjects confirmed that they paid a company to write it too. I've just proposed a ban at ANI, which will help get the ball rolling with clean up. SmartSE (talk) 22:01, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, SmartSE. I was away when the discussion was on ANI, but I too would have a supported the ban, alas. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:38, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

What do you think RE notability of Susan Allen (musician)? Apart from the NYT piece, I don't see suitable sources for BIO, but I've no idea about judging NMUSIC for classical artists. The one source that I've checked utterly failed to verify the content as well, but I'm wary of tidying up unless notability is solid. Thanks SmartSE (talk) 22:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi SmartSE. Yes, she is a notable musician (within a rather niche genre) who has premiered and recorded works by several well-known contemporary musicians. She would pass WP:MUSICBIO on the recordings alone. There are sources for her prominence: [14] and the works she has premiered, e.g. [15], [16], [17]. Plus basic biographical information is available from obituaries [18], [19]. The current article is odd. There is no biographical narrative. It's more like a CV/programme "bio". From the timing (created when she was already suffering from brain cancer), I suspect it was a "commission" to honor her. Anyhow, it needs to be truncated and turned into a real bio. Would you like me to tackle it? Voceditenore (talk) 07:17, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. I can see that notability isn't a problem now. It'd be great if you could take a hedgetrimmer to it and add the verifiable details from those sources. SmartSE (talk) 21:23, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks and a Happy New Year!

Dear VdiT, Happy 2017! The students and I very much appreciated your beautiful Christmas greeting, and I hope that you enjoyed a good holiday.

Rosa Rosen mit Schleierkraut

My wife says that I should send you a bouquet of roses, and I finally figured out how. You've helped me, the students, and the cause of Wikipedia, enormously: the ideas that we inherited don't jibe with the Wikipedia ideal that you so graciously and thoughtfully demonstrated again and again. I admired the way you engaged, helped, and guided these new editors in turn, even passing them on when you deemed it appropriate. If your summer travels bring you to Boston, I hope that we might meet.

Meanwhile, another semester is starting. Might we impose upon you again? And you must let me know when these repeated requests become a burden.

All best wishes to you and yours for a healthy and productive new year!

Ijmusic (talk) 23:11, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

• Hi IJ! The roses are beautiful, thank you to you and your wife . Of course I'll be happy to keep an eye on your Berklee students. I'm looking forward to it, as always. I can't believe its been almost 10 years since we first started working together. It was the 2007 Autumn class at Longy. Time flies! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:11, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

• Can it be ten years, dear VdiT? The number you've helped over the last decade runs into the hundreds! You'll enjoy this year's Berklee class, boasting as it does several bright lights. Thank you for agreeing to keep an eye on us: the students, my wife, and I dub you our Good Angel (as opposed to the editors who have less flattering nicknames). Yours, Ijmusic (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:44, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

On this day, 11 years ago...

Hey, Voceditenore. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Lepricavark (talk) 17:49, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

• Thank you, Lepricavark. You're very kind! Voceditenore (talk) 16:57, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Very impressive record, thanks for all you do. - Sigh, Oleg Caetani, another case where the subject works on the article, including complete blanking. It needs work, and I have no time, also am kind of "involved" by singing in choirs with a member of his family. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Gerda! I've put Caetani's article on watch, but it seems to already have several other watchers, fortunately. It does need a lot of work–the referencing is poor, and in some places the English too. Yes, situations like this are very draining, as you perhaps saw if you were following the latest saga. Ah well, onwards and upwards. PS. My sister-in-law used to live in an apartment in the Palazzo Caetani in Rome and as an operatic tidbit Titta Ruffo's father made its wrought iron gates. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:04, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Rachel Maines

Well done! You may find Good Vibrations (sex shop) relevant and interesting. I used to buy gifts for girlfriends at their original location in the late 1970s. Cullen<sup>328</sup> Let's discuss it 08:43, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Haha, I've shopped there. Softlavender (talk) 09:18, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Edited to add: also at Dell Williams' Eve's Garden, which was the first of its kind. Softlavender (talk) 09:21, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Well, this is quite an eye-opener . I had never heard of either one of these establishments, but then I never go to NY and I moved away from SF in 1963. Cullen, how on earth did you find Rachel Maines? I created it following this discussion to prove that a properly written, well-referenced article on a woman is not going to be immediately nominated for speedy deletion simply because of the subject's gender. Voceditenore (talk) 10:11, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

I saw the article mentioned at ANI, which I read sometimes to help restrain my boundless faith in human nature. Cullen<sup>328</sup> Let's discuss it 20:58, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I've just nipped over to ANI to see what you were talking about, Cullen. After long experience with the editor in question, I must say that the outcome of that saga does not surprise me. Voceditenore (talk) 11:23, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Let's put it this way: That person espouses a bizarre theory of editing. Cullen<sup>328</sup> Let's discuss it 15:51, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Re my comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frederick Achom (2nd nomination)

Yeah, I'm not sure that Achom would qualify as a UK/national "celebrity" either, but was trying to tease out if he could notable on that parameter (combined with his multiple convictions for fraud etc). Shearonink (talk) 18:27, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Precious five years!

Precious

Fie years!

Latest opera I saw and didn't know and found impressive, with the choral conductor leading the performance, and a great singer-actor in the title role: Peter Grimes. Thank you for your consistent encouragement! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Brava, brava…

…for turning the chaos at Virginia Zeani into an encyclopedic article. A well deserving subject, and a superb effort. Brava. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 10:02, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

		The BLP Barnstar
		For collegially accepting bold edits as an invitation to create an article of excellence, and then, for perhaps the single finest effort of extended, focused article editing that I have seen in many years of WP editing, its consequence being a brilliant turn-around of an important article.

Leprof 7272 (talk) 10:16, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Leprof 7272! You're very kind. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 16:40, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

an help for John Seymour (author)

Good morning from Calabria, I'm writing to say hello and know how you are. I pretty well, as committed as ever to the country and in tourism for Coreca. Besides that I'm writing to ask you for help in this biography which then translate into Italian. Reading an old book I had at home I am passionate about his biography, he was a man and extraordinary life (at least in my opinion). Just 10 minutes of your precious time, for the rest I thank you for what you do for me, with an affection and great esteem. greetings from Calabria and thanks again--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 04:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Émilie Ambre

On 13 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Émilie Ambre, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the soprano Émilie Ambre was portrayed by artist Édouard Manet in the title role of Bizet's Carmen (pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Émilie Ambre. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Émilie Ambre), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 00:02, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

URGENT BIG SERIOUS PROBLEM

I ask you to take action on the item Carlo Biotti with the utmost urgency. The Justlettersandnumbers modified, writer made an unprecedented severity that is, that the judge in question had been accused of being a constant struggle wing. In 40 years no one has ever moved such an accusation, nowhere. This reasoning is false, defamatory and historically, remember that defamation is a criminal offense. I ask you to change on his part with the utmost urgency the line in question or the fact that the judge was accused of: * disclosure of official secrets, * have anticipated the previous convention on their own judgment before the final judgment. Please kindly, to immediately correct these constant changes and call, that person Justlettersandnumbers. who knows nothing of contemporary history, sees the sources, he understands the absolute criminal seriousness of what he writes. I have changed the voice, could you please point out that should not be changed by writing serious libels that no one has ever raised. Nessno ever said it was never allowed to say that the president was referring to the extreme left wings.

Thank you. --95.236.138.131 (talk) 00:11, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

See my comments today at Talk:Carlo Biotti. Voceditenore (talk) 09:51, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Françoise de Rimini

On 27 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Françoise de Rimini, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the historic characters in Françoise de Rimini, the last opera by Ambroise Thomas, include not only Francesca da Rimini, but also Dante and Virgil? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Françoise de Rimini. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Françoise de Rimini), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Request for Comment: the Onion "incident" in the article of Congressman John Fleming

I would appreciate you weighing in on this talk subject as you have previously. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_Fleming_(American_politician)#Request_for_Comment:_2017_discussion_on_The_Onion_.22incident..22. Thank You!Tomuchtalk (talk) 15:19, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tomuchtalk. Unfortunately, I'm about to be off travelling for the next three weeks, and at the moment haven't got time to look into the issue in enough depth for an RfC. But... my approach would probably remain the one I took here when the issue first came up. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:03, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt response, Voceditenore. There has been no changes on the issue---just a new editor brought it up again. A quick statement posted to the bottom of the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_Fleming_(American_politician) would be appreciated. (talk) 00:36, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Favor

Voceditenore, you're a bona fide editor and you're logged in. Can you please look at the recent edits by User:Ashvingod? They are not bona fide. Thank you, 12.96.67.34 (talk) 16:55, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi IP! The edits are not optimal, but they don't appear to be vandalism as such. If he makes any more that you think are inappropriate, simply revert them with a clear edit summary explaining why. If you continue to be concerned, and he doesn't respond to a message on his talk page from you, it's best to contact an administrator (which I'm not). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2017 (UTC)