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August 1

List of past titles?

For any given article, is there an simple way to see all of the past versions of its title and when they were changed? RandomCritic (talk) 01:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Title changes (more correctly termed "page moves") are logged automatically. To visit a list of logs for a given page, click the "view logs for this page" link at the top of the article's revision history page. There you can filter the results to only show page move logs. Happy editing, hajat vrc with WikiLove @ 01:15, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) similar to the above answer

Yes; on an article page, first go to the "History" - if you are using the default skin, that's at the top-right, "View history", next to the search box.

Then click on the small link View logs for this page - which is near the top, just under "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia".

That will show all logged actions for the page; if there are too many other actions, you can use the drop-down to just show "Move" entries.

You can also go directly to Special:Logs, and put the page name in there.

For example - for the article Kate Middleton, you'd get this. Chzz ► 01:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where do I submit a request for an article?

I seem to be going in a circle trying to find the correct link to take me to area where I can submit a request for an article. I can find submitted requests, pending requests, etc., but not a link to a form to submit a request.

Thanks! 69.205.199.92 (talk) 02:03, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you can write a draft, with some appropriate references, the easiest way is to use WP:WIZARD and, at the end, choose to "Submit for review".

If you just want to put in a request for anyone to write an article, it's Wikipedia:Requested articles...but, it has an enormous backlog. So it's better to have a go yourself. See also WP:FIRST. Chzz ► 02:07, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone help me create an article?

There was a real person called Dlasta that Xena:_Warrior_Princess character Velasca was based on. I have a source about the person right here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/ama/ama07.htm Can someone help me make an article on Dlasta please? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:22, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See the section immediately above: If you cannot create an article yourself, the place to request an article is Wikipedia:Requested articles. —teb728 t c 03:50, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also see WP:RS to determine whether the source you linked to is reliable, and WP:BIO to determine whether Dlasta meets the notability requirements for people. You might find it easier to leave a comment on Talk:Velasca where you might find other editors interested in writing about Dlasta. --Teratornis (talk) 03:56, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If memory serves, Neptune was asked not to create any new articles since they create a poorly written stub and then come here asking for people to clean it up. At least two editors have attempted to take Neptune under their wing. IMO, Neptune needs to deal with those two editors since they seem to be willing to take on the task of helping Neptune. Dismas|^(talk) 04:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dismas is right - Neptune is under a restriction to create articles only in her sandbox so that they could be checked. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Table help

Hi, does anyone know how I create a table with rounded borders? Thanks, Magister Scienta ^talk (1 August 2011)

It's non-standard, won't work in all browsers, and can cause unexpected results. It certainly shouldn't be attempted on articles.

One way to achieve it is, using a "border radius" style; This page explains it a little. An example;

{| style="border:1px; background:#bbbbbb; border-radius: 2em;"
|-  
|This might have rounded corners. It depends on your browser.
|}

This might have rounded corners. It depends on your browser.

There is also a template, {{Round corners}} - see that page for an example. Chzz ► 04:10, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FYI using Google Chrome v12.0.742.122 the rectangle above does not have rounded corners. CaptRik (talk) 11:28, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everybody, all your assistance is really appreciated, Magister Scienta ^talk (1 August 2011)

That should work in Chrome 4.0 and above. What about the example at {{Border-radius}}? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:08, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am running Google Chrome v12.0.742.122 also and the example above has square borders but {{Border-radius}} is rounded. In Firefox 6 both have rounded borders. GB fan please review my editing 13:22, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with GB fan, {{Border-radius}} is rounded for me. CaptRik (talk) 14:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The example above was using the Mozill specific -moz-border-radius, so it only worked with Firefox. I updated it to use {{Border-radius}} so it will work with all browsers that support the CSS selector. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:30, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re. the change to the example [1] - yes, with that change, it will work on more browsers - but by no means all. That's why I used the example - to highlight that it won't work on all browsers, and thus we need to be cautious in using it. (plus, to show the code, and explain it with the link) Chzz ► 03:18, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

X

I am pissed. I wanted to just say, somewhere, how much I like WIKIDAMNPEDIA. I feel it is the only true source of information, however nieve and manipulatable that may seem. I now despise the internet with its constant wastes of time when I, a vulnerable single mother, though uniquely bright, am searching for L I T E R A L L Y vital information.

I listen to BBC/NPR daily. I also have friends who are off the grid. Which is better? I am in a flux. Help would be good. But making easier access for user compliments, let alone comments would be a good start.

Thanks for wasting my time tonight, and thank you even more for you original, brilliant and dangerous idea. It has to work. I will do whatever it takes to support it. by the way, i plan to graduate with a ba in psych in may 2012, just in case you have any openings for a weird, overlooked, think tank, multi-tasker type.

ADIOS AMIGOS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.16.169.164 (talk) 04:41, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Could this be User:Since 10.28.2010? He recently lost talk page access and this seems to be of a similar writing style. Ryan Vesey Review me! 05:18, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mum's the word. (Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.) --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 08:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Forced addition of dot in middle initial?

Resolved

I am looking at the template Template:LDS70pres and I am running into a problem with Mr. Goaslind. Even though the entry in the table has [[Jack H Goaslind|Goaslind]], when I mouse over it or click on it, it goes to the page for Jack H. Goaslind (note with period), which then redirects to Jack H Goaslind. This means that when the template is displayed on that page, it still contains a link. I'd like to make it not redirect, so that the entry in the template correctly is shown in black on that page. Any ideas on why the initial link is to the one with the period?Naraht (talk) 05:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me - ie, on Jack H Goaslind, if I look at the "Presidents of the Seventy..." navbox, the word "Goaslind" is in black.

It's probably a cache issue; the redirect - on the template - was fixed with this edit at 08:29, 29 April 2011. It's hard to spot, but in that edit "[[Jack H. Goaslind]]" is changed to "[[Jack H Goaslind]]". That happened after the page was renamed [2] 10:58, 28 April 2011.

I guess you're seeing an outdated version of the page, from some cache somewhere along the interweb pipes. Please purge both pages, by going to;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:LDS70pres?action=purge

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_H_Goaslind?action=purge

If that doesn't fix it, try clearing your browser cache. And, finally, it's always worth trying a reboot.

If it still fails...can you check if it's the same if you are logged out, not logged in? Please let us know. Chzz ► 05:50, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Goaslind appeared on the page twice and the period remained in one of the links. I assume that when you clicked on the link you chose the one with the period but when you viewed the source information you saw the one without the period. I removed the period and the duplicate Goaslind and it works now. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:07, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, well spotted, I missed that! Thanks! Chzz ► 06:30, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!!!Naraht (talk) 11:12, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What do you do when someone joins Wikipedia to edit to promote his own agenda?

New user User:Ebenezercore has just added his own name to Kinetic Sculpture Race even though he is notable for nothing other than what his father did. From personal experience with this individual, I know that there is little understanding of the concept of fair and unbiased reporting. This person has caused so many lawsuits and problems that even the local papers have begun to take note [3]. What do we do when someone joins only to self-aggrandize and probably to rewrite pages to suit himself? Is there a watch program for this? Please help. Ellin Beltz (talk) 10:32, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've undone the edit - because the person named is not a public figure, and because it was unreferenced. And I have cautioned the user about our conflict of interest policy [4].

If you have further concerns, see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. Cheers, Chzz ► 11:06, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Need to edit a page, but option is no longer available.

I would like to add/amend some content on the article about "Mehdi Hasan". However, there is no longer an edit option available on that page.

What can I do to edit the page?? Thanks

2yyiam (talk) 11:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The page has been protected from editing by new users, due to repeated violations of our biography policies.

You can, however, put an edit request on the discussion page - go to Talk:Mehdi Hasan, create a "New section", put in a heading, and put {{editsemiprotected}} - just like that - followed by your request. (You'll see a previous request that you made in May 2010 on that page).

After you've made a few more edits, you'll be autoconfirmed, and able to edit it directly. Chzz ► 11:10, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Searching for Improper Latin replacements for Greek Letters.

I'm looking to make sure that all Greek-Letter Organizations (Fraternities and Sororities) have their names properly done in all Greek Letters. What I often see is (for example) instead of the proper ΛΧΑ, articles would have ΛXA. The first example is three greek letters (Lambda Chi Alpha), the second has a Lambda followed by a Latin Alphabet X and A. What I would like to have is the ability to search for any instance of a letter in the Greek Alphabet (Capital, no accents) directly preceding or following a letter in the Latin Alphabet (Capital, no accents) Does anyone have any ideas?Naraht (talk) 13:21, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://toolserver.org/~jarry/grep/?lang=en&wiki=wikipedia&ns=0 can search page names. I tried (Α|Β|Γ|Δ|Ε|Ζ|Η|Θ|Ι|Κ|Λ|Μ|Ν|Ξ|Ο|Π|Ρ|Σ|Τ|Υ|Φ|Χ|Ψ|Ω)(A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M|N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z) and (A|B|C|D|E|F|G|H|I|J|K|L|M|N|O|P|Q|R|S|T|U|V|W|X|Y|Z)(Α|Β|Γ|Δ|Ε|Ζ|Η|Θ|Ι|Κ|Λ|Μ|Ν|Ξ|Ο|Π|Ρ|Σ|Τ|Υ|Φ|Χ|Ψ|Ω). Most results were redirects even though "Include redirects" was not checked. The only non-redirects I didn't already know to be valid were KhLΘG, WΔZ, Concerto for Piano and Concerto in G♯ΔA♭, Egaleo ΒC, ΔF508, ΦPHI Hi-Fi Innovation, but they may also be valid. I don't know a way to make the search for article content. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:42, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) Slightly laborious but there's only 46 possible combinations (we do not need to search for chi followed by the Latin X) so ΑX ΒX ΓX ΔX ΕX ΖX ΗX ΘX ΙX ΚX ΛX ΜX ΝX ΞX ΟX ΠX ΡX ΣX ΤX ΥX ΦX ΨX ΩX XΑ XΒ XΓ XΔ XΕ XΖ XΗ XΘ XΙ XΚ XΛ XΜ XΝ XΞ XΟ XΠ XΡ XΣ XΤ XΥ XΦ XΨ XΩ.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:49, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That only searches full words and not parts of words. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:53, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Give me a few hours, and I'll use the Database scanner on my other computer. Disclaimer: my downloaded database is from early July, so some of the results will be wrong. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:32, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c)

To be more specific, I would need anything with a Greek Letter before or after a Latin letter that would be used by a lazy editor. So, for example, I don't need GΧ (G Chi) since G wouldn't be used that way. So the grouping for the Latin letters would be ABEHIKMNOPTXYZ and thus the "grep" would be [ABEHIKMNOPTXYZ][ΑΒΓΔΕΖΗΙΚΛΜΝΞΟΠΡΣΤΥΦΧΨΩ] and the two flipped. (I have seen something like a KΚΨ (first is a K, second is a Kappa - ugly), so doing "X Chi" would be useful.) I'm also ignoring F/Ϝ(digamma). I need parts of words since there are only a few cases where the latin letter and greek letter together would be the entire fraternity/sorority name (AΦ and ΔΥ are the only ones that spring to mind)

The typical situation is where University of Northern Wyoming lists their fraternities in the Student Activities with the greek letters after the spelled out letters so lines like *[[Alpha Phi Omega]] (AΦΩ) and the letter just after the left parentheses is an A where it should be an Alpha. Because of this, I expect multiple occurences on most pages where this occurs. Thank You!Naraht (talk) 16:36, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming you use Windows, the Greek characters can be typed by using alt codes alt+224 all the way to alt+235, as far as I know. For instance, you can type Σ by using &Sigma with a semicolon at the end, which produces Σ. Similarly, you can type a delta by using &Delta with a semicolon at the end, which produces Δ, so it should be the same for all the other letters. --

Σ talk contribs

00:29, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to use the ability to click on the greek letter entries in the wikied.Naraht (talk) 14:01, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Value of card

i was wondering if you guys could help me ive got a 2010 presspass fourwide jeff gordan memorbilia card numbered 4 of 10 can you please tell me the value of this card please......thanks jamie h — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.141.192.43 (talk) 16:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:25, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anxious to help?

Those of you anxious to help editors, but are frustrated because Chzz seems to get to them first :) might check out Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2011 August 1. I've responded to almost half, but could use some help.--SPhilbrick T 16:11, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User name

The user name is on the top of my article and doesn't make sense there. I can't fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Girlfromnarnia (talk • contribs) 19:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You tried to create an article, but you wrote it on your userpage, which is supposed to tell us about you! I've moved it to User:Girlfromnarnia/Eliza Harris; but that draft wouldn't last long in its present form, since it provides no evidence that this person is notable enough to have an article about her in an encyclopedia (see WP:ACTOR for our standards). --Orange Mike | Talk 19:52, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think Orange Mike intended to refer you to WP:NACTOR for our notability standards. Beside that, your draft provides no citations to reliable sources to verify the facts asserted. —teb728 t c 20:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

help

I recently asked question about how to put a reference and I wanted to know about this in detail but unfortunately there were no answer given, however I would like to know what's wrong with the references those I published in the article of Syed Zakir Hussain Shah and is there any other problem please how I can solve that because This a famous who I put article about therefore I don't want this to be out of Wikipedia.

Thank You I hope you will understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.24.201 (talk) 20:22, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please take a look at WP:Referencing for beginners. Briefly, rather than list the sources at the end of the article, you need to cite them in the body of the text. This is particularly important in the case of biographies of living people where potentially controversial material not supported by reliable sources will be removed. In fact Syed Zakir Hussain Shah should probably be reduced to a stub until it is properly sourced. – ukexpat (talk) 20:36, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

...which User:Orangemike has now done. – ukexpat (talk) 01:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I experiment in my sandbox

I created the article called Dlasta in my sandbox: User:Neptunekh2/Dlasta. Could someone tell me what think of my article and if it should be on wikipedia? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 21:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commented on your talkpage. I don't think this person passes our notability test - the only reference to her is in passing in Rothery's book. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:46, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Worse yet, it is copied almost verbatim from http://www.sacred-texts.com/wmn/ama/ama07.htm. The slight changes do not remove the fact that it is a copyright violation. —teb728 t c 02:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations Wikipedia User..

You are the winner for August 1st.

I received this and a choice of either $1000 gift certificate to Best Buy, $1000 towards and Ipad & something else. I chose the Best Buy gift certificate. Filled out a questionaire (no personal info was requested). But it it got stuck when I gave a phone number requested. (Cell Phone). Not sure if this is a legitimate prize. Please advise. I received this while searching on my BlackBerry. Thank you,

Brian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.248.1.220 (talk) 21:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, you got Spam --Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This usually happens with squatted domains - i.e., you'll get a similar "survey" to win an Ipad if you go to http://wikiepdia.org instead of the correct address, http://wikipedia.org. ^Avic _ennasis @ 22:23, 1 Av 5771 / 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Another possibility is that your BlackBerry got infected by malware which directs searches to a bogus site. In any case, the message you saw was not from Wikipedia and we cannot help, other than I strongly suggest that you give no additional info and most definitely no money or card or account number to whoever is running this scam. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:44, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move multiple pages

Is there an efficient way to move an entire set of archive pages? Specifically I need to move all the Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts/archiveN pages to Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance/alertsN, (where N is an integer). Gerardw (talk) 21:55, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you move the top page, all the supages will follow automagically, I believe. Alternatively, if all the pages need moved, I can do it pretty quickly. :-) ^Avic _ennasis @ 22:25, 1 Av 5771 / 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Some did but most of the archives didn't. If you have a way to do them in a batch I'd appreciate it. Gerardw (talk) 22:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done all but one page, which will be moved once an admin handles this request. :-) Let me know if you need anything else. ^Avic _ennasis @ 23:18, 1 Av 5771 / 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Done--SPhilbrick T 00:00, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gerardw (talk) 01:19, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added dalasta in List_of_women_warriors_in_folklore#Historical_Czech_Lands

Can someone tell me what they think since I added dalasta in List_of_women_warriors_in_folklore#Historical_Czech_Lands? I did it because User_talk:Elen_of_the_Roads said I should. Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 22:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure she didn't tell you to copy and paste copyrighted text though did she? I have reverted your edit on that basis. You may and should use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Note also that just changing the sentence superficially is not sufficient to avoid copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Finally, if that text was not copied and pasted but your own, the main comment I would have made for improvement was that it was not cited to a reliable source that verified the information.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:12, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll talk some more on your talkpage. I've reassured Fuhghettaboutit that there isn't a copyvio problem in this case, but we do need to look at the writing, then you will be able to put it back in. Incidentally, I had missed that Dlasta and Valasca are the same person, just variant spellings of the name. Ryan Vesey is rewriting your Valasca article here User:Ryan_Vesey/Valasca, so you needn't worry about the article. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 09:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spam protection filter

Hi i keep running into the Spam protection filter, i know how it works, but i'm not adding blacklisted links or titles. I get this even when the links are internal, if i hit back and publish again it works. I am an admin on the terraria wiki and this is conflicting with my ability to quickly edit pages. Is there some reason this is happening? And how do i fix it? Daking123 (talk) 22:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give us an example of an edit? ^Avic _ennasis @ 23:20, 1 Av 5771 / 1 August 2011 (UTC)

This was the first page i got the spam filter message, and i only added one link to the page and it was an internal to a category page. Daking123 (talk) 07:06, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to edits at Wikipedia or at http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/Terraria_Wiki? This is a help desk for Wikipedia. Terraria Wiki may have other settings but it's possible somebody can help anyway if you quote the message you get. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes i am referring to the wiki you mentioned, sorry i thought the protection filter was automated across all wikis. I get a page saying:

Spam Protection Filter

The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam protection filter.

This is probably caused by a blacklisted link or pagename.

If you think this is wrong, please contact us here. Please, provide a copy of this message when ::reporting any problem.

On the Help:Spam page it says it should tell me the link that is bad but it doesn't provide me with anymore info than that. Could i get white listed on the Terraria wiki to avoid this problem? Any help would be appreciated. Daking123 (talk) 07:06, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where it says "please contact us here", is that a blue link to some kind of help page at Wikia? I suggest you explore that route; you'll only get guesswork from the Wikipedia help desk. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:21, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is run by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation. Wikia is run by Wikia, Inc. We have no control over them or the thousands of other wikis which use the MediaWiki software. MediaWiki has lots of configuration settings and extensions which can vary between sites. It sounds like you got the message at http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Spam_blacklist#What_is_the_spam_filter_message.3F (but without the link). The message says "If you think this is wrong, please contact us here". Follow the link on "here" to get help from Wikia. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:01, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help Link

I need help creating a link. I thought there was a template/magic word that created if I clicked it would link me to my page, and if you clicked it it would link you to yours. Is that possible? Majestic Pyre^{My Speech Bubble} 23:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Mypage. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:28, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 2

Article "San Francisco Choral Society"

The article "San Francisco Choral Society" isn't showing up, though I posted it and found it initially. Where is it or what happened to it?

my hp printer

my hp printer was not compatible with mozilla firefox I constiatly had to uninstall and then reinstall the printer program so i went back to explorer i dont like explorer what should i do I have windows vista and my printer is hp all-in-one C7280 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.181.228 (talk) 02:20, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:23, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Does the site "Dear God please help me" on freewebs contain some kind of virus?

as above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.38.224.172 (talk) 02:28, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that you are in the Help Desk of the English Wikipedia, where we answer questions about editing Wikipedia. We are not affiliated with the website you mentioned. But you can try asking in the Computing section of the Reference Desk.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 02:42, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I started a new article on Dlasta

I started a new temporary article on Dlasta: User_talk:Neptunekh2/Dlasta/Temp. I didn't copyright this time and the article is stub. Could someone expand it please? Neptunekh2 (talk) 02:50, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your original article, while it could use some work, is not a copyright violation, for the reason I listed on the talk page. Any admin should be able to see that and remove the notice, which should then allow you to continue your work. ^Avic _ennasis @ 03:31, 2 Av 5771 / 2 August 2011 (UTC)

That's a good catch, but you do realize that it's plagiarism, right?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, indeed, which is why it needs work - I merely stated it was not a copyvio. ^Avic _ennasis @ 06:49, 2 Av 5771 / 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Remove my article please

Could an admin please remove the notice from original article article? User_talk:Avicennasis says not a violation. I would like to work on the article. Thank you! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:44, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted my tagging of the article; I believe I am allowed to do that. Thanks to Avicennasis for noting that it is PD. —teb728 t c 08:22, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia article rule...?

I have been told by an admin (see my talk page) that I should edit a actual article on wikipedia eventually, lest I risk being blocked. Is this an actual rule? Because if it is, it doesn't seem to make much sense to me. LikeLakers2 (talk) 03:32, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. If you read the page they linked to, you'll see our policy on treating Wikipedia like a social site. While they might have been able to phrase it better, those users who seem to be using Wikipedia as "the new facebook" are likely to get blocked. ^Avic _ennasis @ 03:40, 2 Av 5771 / 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Acceptable username?

Is the username "copyright violation", "copyright infringement" or something similar acceptable? 183.81.68.94 (talk) 03:34, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not if you want to contribute to Wikipedia in a positive way. Looking for names that are potentially misleading, but might not explicitly be disallowed (if the ones you suggest aren't) doesn't suggest this intent. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:51, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Copyright violation was blocked due to the username one minute after the account was created and before it had made any edit. See Wikipedia:Username policy#Confusing usernames. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:56, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong URL leads to Wrong Article

reading up on Emilio Estevez, and the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilio_Estevez takes me to an article about American Dad's Stan Smith Character. I tried looking up articles and forums to tell you guys, if this isn't the correct place to place this don't care. I just thought you should know that the link to Emilio Estevez leads to a different article. I don't want to edit the article, I was just trying to let you guys know if you wanted to fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.199.163.206 (talk) 04:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting us know. It was a spate of vandalism there that was already fixed by the time you reported it. DMacks (talk) 07:15, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WHY can I not figure out how to request an article!!!?

I am on your site every single day and I CANNOT understand why it is so IMPOSSIBLE to figure out how to request an article. I've just spent ten minutes getting redirected all over your site and NOWHERE on any single page is there a place to input a simple question, on top of which none of the caregories make any sense. I simply want to request an article on Lenell Geter, who was very famously convicted of a crime he didn't commit and NOWHERE is there an intelligent place for this to be done -- your Biography page asks for nationality and doesn't have American, which is carrying multiculturalism just a bit too far -- this is an American website, right?

Lenell Geter is famous and would you please create an article on him? I simply came eto try to find out if the man is still alive and it has been a very frustrating now fifteen - twenty minutes of wasted effort. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.160.169.188 (talk) 05:13, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Requested articles, The sina qua non of this website is people creating articles themselves, not requesting creation. Because everyone is a volunteer, and writes about what interests them, requesting articles doesn't really work very well.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:40, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also "this is an American website, right?" No, wrong. The Wikipedia servers are based in Florida, and a large number of contributors come from the U.S., but it is an international project. Have you tried using Google to find the information you require? AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:47, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In short: you'll probably get nowhere if you expect to demand things and get it. Everyone here is a volunteer. This is "our" site, in the sense that anyone, including you, can contribute. And as Andy pointed out, no, this is an international English-language Wikipedia, it's not American.

If you want an article on him, writing it yourself is the fastest way to do it. I highly recommend you see the Article Wizard instead.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 07:37, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In reply to what you were originally looking for, Lenell Geter still is alive and is a motivational speaker with Lenell Geter Enterprises. I wouldn’t be good at writing, but if anyone is interested, there is a Dallas Observer News article on how he was cleared here. —teb728 t c 07:54, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Janet Ross - Adding Sections

I have been expanding the stub on Janet Ross. I now want to divide the article into sections. I successfully created the first section "Early Days"; however, my edits to create subsequent sections entitled "Expatriate Life In Italy," and "Books," have failed to take." Henry Heater — Preceding unsigned comment added by Henryheater (talk • contribs) 05:32, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "== Heading ==" marker only takes effect if it is at the start of a line. I have edited the article and your headings are now showing. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)

It was already fixed by John of Reading. Subsection markup (==TITLE==, etc.) need to be placed in a new line for them to work. I have also arbitrarily divided your text into paragraphs and added an infobox (fill it up with what you can). See changes here. Its far more readable if you do so. Please rearrange as you see fit and rematch to their correct citations if necessary. Thanks. Interesting article, by the way. :) -- Obsidi♠n Soul 08:09, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot create "Copal Partners" page on Wikipedia

Dear Administrator,

I am not able to create "Copal Partners" page on Wikipedia, can you please help.

Best Regards, Atul — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.144.118.2 (talk) 05:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First, you must create an account to start an article. Second, the article for Copal Partners has been deleted six times by my count and the name has been salted which keeps an article from being created under that name. The reason is that the past versions of that article were clearly made for promotional/advertising purposes. Dismas|^(talk) 05:55, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please let me know how can I create the page in that case keeping in mind that it should not be for promotional purposes.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.144.118.2 (talk) 06:07, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Probably the best way to deal with this situation would be to first create an account and then create a userspace draft which can then be reviewed to see that it meets the minimum standards before it is moved to Mainspace. In the meantime it would also be a good idea for you to get familiar with Wikipedia's ways of doing things by editing existing articles. Start with minor edits such as correcting spelling errors and as you gain experience and become familiar with the way articles are structured you can work on your draft. Roger (talk) 06:58, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

TEXT STYLE

I CANNOT READ WIKIPEDIA IN THIS JOINED UP STYLE. IT IS ALL A MESS. MY WIFE AND KIDS FEEL THE SAME. PLEASE PRINT IT IN A CLEAR STYLE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.235.202.137 (talk) 08:50, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing has changed at this end - most Wikipedia pages do not ask for any special font to be used. Please check your browser's font preferences. If you're not sure how to do this, post again here with your browser name and version number, and someone will be able to give you step-by-step advice. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting an account

I recall at one point it was possible to delete an accountname entirely from all WMF systems without causing any disruption or loss of free-license content data. Is this still a feature we have? --Alecmconroy (talk) 10:28, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to: Wikipedia:Right to vanish? Яehevkor ✉ 10:30, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

FAQ#How do I delete an account. Wifione _.......^{Leave a message} 15:54, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is not possible to delete user accounts, as all contributions must be assigned to some identifier; either a username or an IP address.

All Wikipedia editors have the right to leave Wikipedia for good (ie, permanently). The usual way to leave the Wikipedia project is simply to stop editing. Your contributions remain in Wikipedia. If you wish to resume editing at a later date, you can simply start again by logging into the same account. Old accounts that have any significant edits are almost never deleted or recycled to new users.

If you decide to make a fresh start and do not wish to be connected to a previous account, you can simply discontinue the old account(s) and create a new one that becomes the only account you use. Discontinuing the old account means it will not be used again; it should note on its user page that it is inactive— for example, with the {{retired}} tag —to prevent the switch being seen as an attempt to sock puppet.

Editors seeking privacy per their right to vanish can have their accounts renamed and their user pages and (in some cases) user talk pages deleted. Feinoha ^{Talk, My master}

Usage of titles in articles

I tried searching, but could not find any policies or guidelines on usage of titles in articles. Should the full title of a ruler be included in an image caption? For example, [5]? Bejinhan talks 12:33, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hullo Bejinhan. :P See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility). -- Obsidi♠n Soul 12:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (captions)#Succinctness. The caption in your example was far too long. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:12, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image not showing

If I try to put File:99.9% Sure (I've Never Been Here Before) single cover.jpg in the infobox to 99.9% Sure (I've Never Been Here Before), it just shows up as a blank. What's wrong? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 13:36, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It might be too wide. The template page mentions 200px and that makes sense to meet the low definition 'fair use' image definition. --Aspro (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just managed to get a different image for a different cover that was about the right size to display in the template. So I think that is all that's wrong.--Aspro (talk) 13:59, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's because of certain characters in the filename confusing the infobox parser. Not sure if it's the percent-character (which has a special meaning in URLs) or the parens or the apostrophe, but I renamed that file to File:Brian McComas single cover 1.jpg and added it to the infobox. DMacks (talk) 14:22, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When are redirects considered useful?

Resolved

– Redirect created at List of planets in the solar system. Thanks PrimeHunter. --Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:26, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We have the article List of planets. The first section in the article is List of planets#In the Solar System and this section represents the main part of the article by length. Now would it make sense to create a redirect targeted at List of planets#In the Solar System under List of planets in the solar system? The redirect would appear a bit odd right now, but if the article were longer, it would arguably be a useful redirect. Furthermore it would satisfy point 6 at WP:R#Purposes of redirects. I just would appreciate some input if a reader really "should" be redirected in this case, as the section is more or less directly beneath the article title and if the additional suggestion in the search box is really needed here. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:16, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of planets has no info on each planet but only a link to its own article so it would be a poor target for the Solar System. Solar System planets and Table of planets in the solar system redirect to the featured List of gravitationally rounded objects of the Solar System. If you make other redirects for Solar System planets then they should also go there. As a rule of thumb (I don't know whether this is written down somewhere), if two redirects sound like they are going to the same page, then they should go to the same page. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:30, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Then it seems it would make even more sense to create a disambiguation page under List of planets in the solar system containing a link to List of gravitationally rounded objects of the Solar System#Planets and List of planets#In the Solar System. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:42, 2 August 2011 (UTC) Strike that, since List of planets is already a partial disambiguation page and a double disambiguation doesn't seem to be needed here. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:16, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can be logged in only on my country's wikipedia page. Why?

I encountered a problem with logging in. I can easily log in to polish Wikipedia. I read an article and i change language to read it in english. Suddenly I'm not logged in and when i try to log in I get "Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again". I changed language back to polish and I was still logged in. How can it be that password works on polish Wikipedia only? I tried logging out from polish Wikipedia and log on straight from US site but same thing happens 85.89.189.79 (talk) 18:35, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Logging in#Login issues and problems. Does this help you? Wifione _.......^{Leave a message} 18:42, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You might also want to look at this page, pl:Pomoc:Konto_uniwersalne on the Polish Wikipedia. It is the Polish version of this page, Wikipedia:Unified login. GB fan please review my editing 18:47, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting an Article

I have tried to request an article about AVANCE, Inc.. I cannot figure out how to do so. I have gone to the request page and selected the nonprofis topic. Once I am on that page I dont know how to actually type up and sumbit the request. Can you help me do this?

Brief summary: AVANCE, Inc. is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization offering comprehensive early childhood education, parenting and family support services.

References: www.avance.org, http://www.wkkf.org/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.90.251.77 (talk) 18:38, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Being a not-for-profit organisation does not make it notable. Have you got reliable, independent sources which would show that the organisation meets the criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia? -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 09:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2010 U.S. Census data bot?

Hello, this is a curious question concerning the 2010 United States Census data. I have noticed that most articles concerning cities in the U.S. have the outdated 2000 Census data for demographics. Will Wikipedia create a bot for the 2010 Census? If so, when is this expected to be created? If not, why? Other articles that have been updated, do not follow the 2000 Census data and are very over detailed such as Arcata, California and Sacramento, California and obstruct main points as we can go to the sources themselves for more inside info. Thanks. Moalli (talk)

Wikipedia:2010_US_Census contains information about this, does that help? CaptRik (talk) 20:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a page for a company I work for. Is this kosher?

I work for a Canadian Telecommunications company called TekSavvy Solutions Inc. Now, despite the fact we're a company with a strong tie to the Internet and a good following, we do not have a Wikipedia page. I was brought on as a communications specialist back in May and when I realized this, I wanted to fix it (even though I'm more of a reader of Wikipedia than an editor).

Now, upon reading the rules and restrictions on Wikipedia, it sounds like I cannot create this page because it would be similar to advertising. Do I have this correctly?

I want to start work on this and have it looking appropriate before officially posting a Wikipedia page for TekSavvy so it can be properly represented as a Canadian Telecommunications company on Wikipedia.

So again, would it be okay for me to create this page or does that constitute advertising?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teksavvy wrotkowski (talk • contribs) 19:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You got two issues here, notability and potential for conflict of interest. First check the relevant notability guideline for commercial organizations, WP:COMPANY, to see if your company meets the criteria for inclusion. Otherwise the article will be deleted. Assuming that the company is in fact notable (coverage in reliable sources, etc.), check the guideline on conflict of interest, WP:COI. Now, the second one does not actually preclude you from making the article. What it does say is that you have to be very careful in making sure the article is neutral. In particular the Wikipedia article should not be a PR press release or anything like that. If you create the article but stick to just the basic facts (when created, what industry, who the head is, etc.) you should be ok (note: people vary in their interpretation of WP:COI so this is essentially how I see it). If you want to write whatever you want, try MyWikiBiz.

On the other hand, they ARE going to make you change your username as that kind of username would be regarded as promotional, which is a no-no.Volunteer Marek (talk) 19:22, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tool for creating wikilinks from all entries in a category

Is there a tool that can create wikilinks from all entries in a category, ie transform a category into an edible page, such that I have a list of wikilinks? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:58, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:CatScan. The page talks about category intersection, but if you enter only one category name you get a category listing. Select "Wiki" format near the bottom of the tool page. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:18, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks John. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 20:50, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Split history

I know it is possible to do a history merge, but is it possible to do a history split? The article previously known as Mile-High Tower has been moved and subsequently edited a number of times today to make a very different sounding article. Unfortunately, as I have pointed out on the talk page, there is little evidence that the current name is in any way linked to the previous name apart from them being project(s) for the same company. What I would like to see is a new article called Kingdom Tower (Jeddah) with essentially the current contents, while Mile-High Tower is reverted to its previous state before today's edits. Of course, if someone comes up with some evidence in a reliabel source that these are in fact the same project, I will fully support a later merge proposal. Astronaut (talk) 20:10, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is possible (example) but you need to flag down an administrator. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:21, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Maybe it'll be better if I wait a day or two in case someone comes up with something on the talk page. Astronaut (talk) 20:30, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adding items to Discography

I added 2 new items to the Discography page and when finished, the whole Discography appeared under the header "External Links", not "Discography". Also, the "PersonData" appeared under the Discography which is now all under the "External Links" header. How can I move the Discography box and items to appear under "Discography"? Afrasia (talk) 20:52, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed by User:John of Reading in this edit. – ukexpat (talk) 20:57, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IN ERROR I BLOCKED AN ACTIVE GAME OF FRONTIERVILLE`````.

HOW DO I GET THIS GAME BACK IN IT ENTIRETY`````

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. GB fan please review my editing 21:01, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Section of Administrative Law and Regulatory Practice

I've just edited the Section of Administrative Law and Regulatory Practice page to respond to the tags that have been there during 2009-10. Can someone un-tag that page and remove the ! notice that still appears there? 21:29, 2 August 2011 (UTC)149.101.1.120 (talk)

The issues pointed out in the template are all still present in my opinion, so the template is appropriate on this article. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Most importantly, this article needs reliable sources (see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources). This is needed to establish the sections notability (see Wikipedia:Notability). Wikipedia is supposed to contain only articles on topics that are considered notable according to that guideline at the second link. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:58, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have PRODded the article. I doubt that individual sections of the ABA meet the WP:ORG criteria. – ukexpat (talk) 16:02, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a photo to an article.

This image and this image showing "Chief Yeoman George Ellis" on board the USS Brooklyn in 1898, shortly before he was killed in the Battle of Santiago in 1898, should be added to the article George Henry Ellis, if our fair use policy allows. It is viewable at Google Book search; would they have any legal objections on the basis of having scanned it and made it available? Presumably the original publisher in The Century from 1899 would have no copyright claim. Where are the mechanics of capturing the image and adding it discussed? I can copy it in Windows via "print screen" then crop with Photoshop. Can the result be uploaded to Wikipedia, or does it have to go in some Wikimedia image database first? Thanks. Edison (talk) 22:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The book and photo were clearly published prior to 1923 in the U.S., so the images are in the Public Domain. PD images should be uploaded to Commons instead of here, so that all Wikimedia projects should use them. I have no idea on the technical way to get the image off of Google books and use it, but once you figure that part out, you should upload it to Commons. --Jayron 32 22:09, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see thousands photos in pre-1923 books which might improve related Wiki articles, but I rarely mess with images. My big question is whether Google Books claims any intellectual property of images they paid someone to scan and which they make available on their site. Do they have any explicit denial of copyright for their efforts? Is that assumed, for mere placing the book on the scanner? Edison (talk) 01:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. copyright law does NOT include the sweat of the brow doctrine: U.S. copyright law follows a different doctrine known as the Threshold of originality in order to get copyright protection. Faithful reproductions of works do NOT constitute a new copyright on that work; if the copied work was in the public domain, then all bona fide copies of that work are also in the public domain. Since google books is literally a straight scan of the original, so long as the original work is in the public domain in the U.S., then Google Book's scan is as well. See Threshold_of_originality#Reproductions_of_public_domain_works which explains this quite well. --Jayron32 02:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 3

Website

I want to write an Article about a subject(which I feel Isn't currently on Wikipedia) and am thinking about putting a link or two of my website where people can purchase the product that I will be writing about. My website also has some good reference as well to help with the page that i want to write. The page will be written in a encyclopedic manner and as a neutral party.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikilova22 (talk • contribs) 00:13, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, you may not use Wikipedia as a vehicle to promote sales of your product. Please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Spam, and What Wikipedia is Not for more information about our policies against this sort of behavior. --Jayron32 02:54, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Should the article Dlasta get deleted

I don't mind if someone wants to delete the Dlasta article. I understand if it has to be done. 00:43, 3 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neptunekh2 (talk • contribs)

If you feel it should be deleted, then you should nominate it for deletion at WP:AFD. However, I don't see why it should be deleted. It needs some expansion and cleanup, but I don't think that, as a topic, it doesn't deserve an article at Wikipedia. --Jayron32 02:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Beside that it has only one source, and it is massively plagerized, copying that source almost word for word. —teb728 t c 03:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there is that. But, presumably someone could simply write it fully in their own words, and that would solve that problem. It's still mainly a cleanup issue. --Jayron32 03:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a related thread on ANI. Chzz ► 05:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New to Wiki (except for reading); I do not know where to go to address an issue.

I have recently read an article (actually, this was labeled a stub... but it did have a not-small amount of information).

It was very helpful, I'm very glad it was there, and in no way do I want to 'complain' about the article. I am quite grateful that it was there because it helped me quite a bit.

However, there were some issues with the article in terms of the writing/proofreading, such that it made some of the information that was being conveyed a bit ambiguous. Maybe the writer knows and doesn't care, but by the quality of the page, I'm inclined to believe they don't know there might be an area that could be changed to make it better.

As I said, I'm new to wiki. I know enough to know that there isn't a central group maintaining every single page on a micro level, but that's as far as I know. I don't know what I'm supposed to do to mention that an article needs a clarification in a certain place. In some of the FAQ trees I've read, I have seen where I might start if I know there's a fact issue, but in this case it's not that a fact is incorrect, but that it is unclear what the fact is.

So, I don't know where to start. I don't really know if this is the place to ask where to start, so I apologize if I have chosen the wrong place to go first. Regardless, I would be very much appreciative if I could be thrown a proverbial lifeline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoreyRichards (talk • contribs) 02:31, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some ideas for you:

If you can fix up the article yourself, please do so. Everyone, almost literally every single person, here at Wikipedia got started like you: noticing something small that they could fix; which they did, and then got hooked.
If you can't fix the article because you're not sure what is wrong, there is a good chance that the article is maintained by a WikiProject. Check the article talk page (click the discussion tab) and see if there is a "WikiProject" maintaining it; if there is you can go to the WikiProject page and notify someone there.
If you can't find any information about a WikiProject maintaining the article, if you can post the specific name of the article here, maybe someone can give you more guidance.

If no one has done so, let me be the first to welcome you to Wikipedia, and I hope you find your stay good! --Jayron32 02:46, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the above,

4. We have a number of template messages that you can add to the top of an article, which a) put a box at the top, explaining a concern, and b) put the article into a category, so that people know it needs attention. For example, {{copy edit}}, {{POV}}, {{expert-subject}}. Note that it is best to elaborate on the discussion page (see below). There are other messages that can be added to specific parts of the article, e.g. {{unreferenced section}}, and some can be added inline, e.g. {{fact}}. The page Wikipedia:Template messages lists them, and there is a gadget called Twinkle which makes it easier to add these tags (see pic).

5. General comments about an article should be put on the article discussion page - which is also called a talk page. For example, to comment on the article on Sausage, you'd leave messages on Talk:Sausage. See Help:Using talk pages. Chzz ► 03:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Posts deleted

Everytime I post a page link is deleted, why??? The source is correct!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.132.95.110 (talk) 04:35, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Wikipedia:External links for more information; in general Wikipedia articles should NOT link to someone's social media accounts (Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.). This was also explained to you on your user talk page. --Jayron32 04:37, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

adding to an article.

How do I add an LP to a recording artists list of LP's which is now mistakenly listed as "complete" The artist is Alirio Diaz and the LP is "Récital de guitare Nº 1" I could also insert a photo of the album cover if someone told me how to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.44.76 (talk) 06:41, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This Wikipedia article does not contain a discography. The "Discography" link leads to an external site, http://www.aliriodiaz.org/disco.htm. To request a change there you would have to contact the administrators of that site.

Thank you for your offer of a photo. However, since the album cover is almost certainly copyrighted, it cannot be used here to illustrate the Wikipedia article on the guitarist. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:22, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reference question

Hi there, We have edited Nicola Emmanuelle (a living person) to Wikipedia, and we have entered references/reliable source to it, but WIkipedia is still not happy. Could you please tell us what we're doing wrong and help us to bring Nicola Emmanuelle's page up?

That would be very kind! Thank a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.171.46.128 (talk) 07:44, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

There appears to be some concern over the sourcing for this page. For example, there are multiple mentions of her working relationships with George Fenton and other noted musicians, which are not sourced. Whilst one review has been included as a reference, it does not demonstrate her notability, which is the benchmark for inclusion in Wikipedia. If you can track down and include reliable sources which both indicate Nicola Emmanuelle's notable status per WP:BAND and demonstrate that the statements about her are verifiable, you can remove the article template. Yunshui (talk) 08:10, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Evening Standard is a reliable source, so I have removed the "unsourced biography" deletion notice. As User:Yunshui says, the article still needs work, and other editors may choose to add other kinds of maintenance tag to it. You say "we have edited", which leads to wonder if you are Emmanuelle's agent or similar. If so, please check the conflict of interest guidelines. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:21, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"We have edited..." - why the plural? Who is 80.171.46.128? Possibly a COI "role account"? Roger (talk) 12:30, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An unregisterred IP address cannot be a "role account". There is no prohibition against multiple people editing from the same IP address, and we can't really stop that. --Jayron32 12:33, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can I flag users?

I want to flag Kneedle because of his biased editing. He keeps deleting my contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericdxx (talk • contribs) 11:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He has done no such thing recently. You haven't edited, prior to yesterday, since May 15 and none of your recent edits have been reverted or deleted. I don't see where you have ANY basis for complaint against any user given what your recent editing history shows. --Jayron32 12:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be related to edits to Rob Barnett. Made a month and a half ago. Яehevkor ✉ 12:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Which I have re-reverted, as it's only weakly (if at all) supported by the source) Яehevkor ✉ 12:09, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ericdxx's last edit to that article was July 1, 2010, which was 13 months ago. Unless he is intentionally disguising his identity to cover his tracks since then, it seems rediculously arbitrary for Ericdxx to try to drag someone over the coals for an edit made 13 months ago, even if he had been in the right. I make not statement on whether or not he was or was not in the right, just that 13 months is a LONG time to hold a grudge... --Jayron32 12:18, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wiktionary wikilink

Is there a better way to link to Wiktionary definitions than the clumsiness I just committed in Jonathan Agnew's biography? I'm sure there is, but [[wkt:]] didn't seem to work... --Dweller (talk)

It's wikt: ... You missed the "i". See Wikipedia:Wikimedia sister projects for a list of prefixes for sister projects. --Jayron32 12:15, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! <smacks forehead> TRM got it anyway. --Dweller (talk) 12:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commons

Coul you transfer File:No Talking Just Head.jpg on Commons. It is not so elaborate for the copyright.--95.247.175.165 (talk) 13:13, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid not. Commons can only accept free content. It can not accept images released under Fair Use laws. See Commons:Licensing.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 14:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear to me that the album cover meets the threshold of originality to qualify for copyright protection. It's just simple text and red and white squares. If I am right, then it does qualify for transfer to Commons as {{PD-simple}}. – ukexpat (talk) 17:14, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I actually would disagree with that. Even simple colored geometric shapes and the arangement thereof represent creative choices, otherwise wouldn't the artworks of Piet Mondrian have been in the public domain? This is clearly a case where one could make a case that it was PD, but one could also make a substantially good case that it wasn't, and at Wikipedia we should always default to the more conservative approach WRT copyright: for borderline cases where we can't be exactly sure how, say, a court of law would decide, we should default to assuming that the work is copyrightable and not free. --Jayron32 18:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I only said that it wasn't clear that it was copyrightable... – ukexpat (talk) 13:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:TheBeatles68LP.jpg is on Commons, but I would agree—the album art here in question is not as obvious. Maybe this should be brought up at WP:Media copyright questions? —Akrabbim^talk 13:36, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Standards for naming articles about buildings

As I discussed earlier here, I've been working on editing Bloomberg articles and I have a question about naming the Bloomberg Tower article. I'm wondering if it's better to re-name the article "731 Lexington Avenue" or keep it named "Bloomberg Tower". Is there a standard for naming articles about buildings? I appreciate your help. Ordwayen (talk) 13:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can try asking in WikiProject Architecture or WikiProject Skyscrapers. They may have a specific manual of style when it comes to article names on buildings.

But usually, article titles are the names by which a subject is most commonly known as (Recognizability). In this case, I think 'Bloomberg Tower' is a more common name for the building. See Wikipedia:Article titles.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 14:12, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Number of deleted article?

How I can know how many articles have been deleted on Wikipedia since it's inception? 92.156.11.199 (talk) 13:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't looked hard myself, but if you are going to find that information, some places to start looking would be Wikipedia:Statistics or Wikipedia:Database reports. --Jayron32 14:13, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is the closest I've found Jebus989 ^✰ 14:28, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in mind that just an article being deleted does not mean that we don't have an article covering that subject. There are duplicate articles created with a variant of the name of the existing article, or a defective article (copyright violation, for instance) might have been deleted and later a properly sourced article created on the same subject. Sometimes a vandal repeatedly creates the same inappropriate article. Edison (talk) 18:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Links to Richard Ebeling

He left a message that I received that he felt that listing these articles was somehow a "conflict of interest" or "unverified."

Well, I am Richard Ebeling, and the articles are "real," and I don't see how listing links to some of one's own articles is a "conflict of interest."

With all due respect, I consider this outrageous behavior, particularly since "CRETOG8(t/c)" clearly disagrees with the economic theory and policy views that I hold from the way he phrases his comment.

So who, here, is guilty of a "conflict of interest"?

I presume that there is no problem about my going into the page about myself, and reconstructing the section with links to some of my articles?

I would very much appreciate a verification that there is no problem with my doing this.

Most cordially,

Dr. Richard Ebeling Professor of Economics Northwood University Midland, Michigan, USA 14:58, 3 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Ebeling (talk • contribs)

Without getting into the substance of what CRETOG8(t/c)'s personal opinion on the economic theory is in this case, one thing you Richard Ebeling should do is read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for the definition of what that behavior means at Wikipedia. It is a specific set of behaviors, and your use of the term above shows that you don't actually understand what is meant by the term at Wikipedia. --Jayron32 15:14, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, Wikipedia is not the place for promotion, neither is it a public directory or a personal profile/resumé. External links, particularly to commercial products or websites, are used as sparingly as possible and are not normally placed in the body of the article.

Also see Wikipedia:Autobiography.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 15:40, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but you adding to your article is practically the very definition of conflict of interest. That said, you have written a great deal, much of it in highly respected journals, so it would be a service to our readers to let them know how to find your writings. What is not acceptable is a single long list dropped into the middle of the article. Frankly, it didn't look very professional. There are better ways. For example, it might be appropriate to directly link to representative examples, or award winning examples, and add a link to an external site that lists every article. The best thing to do is to make a proposal on the article talk page, and editors will consider the best options. Talk pages sometimes are slow moving, but I'll make a point of watching that talk page and helping with the discussion.SPhilbrick T 16:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looking to reach consensus on minor update to BLP

Hello, I proposed a few minor changes to the Pete Snyder article on that article's Talk page, and followed up on Wikiproject Biography to ask what others thought about the edits I suggested--but it seems that those areas are not active enough to prompt any response on this topic. While I would otherwise be bold, I want to be especially mindful of the WP:COI guideline as the subject of the article is the CEO of my present employer. This article is currently out of date and omits several reliable sources that would help it more closely align with Wikipedia's citation guidelines, but I prefer to leave such changes up to an editor fully independent of the subject. Would another editor(s) be willing to take a look at the changes requested here and either provide feedback or make the edits as you see fit? Cheers, Jeff Bedford (talk) 16:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Anders Behring Breivik: New section becomes new subsection.

See the page's recent history. When I tried to create a new section, the page insisted on creating a new subsection instead.

Accusativen hos Olsson (talk) 17:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The section above it was missing some characters. Please try reposting. TNXMan 17:48, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks a bunch!

Accusativen hos Olsson (talk) 18:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! TNXMan 19:44, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Misspelled word through out Wikipedia

Hello, The word "recognized" is spelled "recognised" throughout Wikipedia. The reason I noticed, is that my text to speech screen reader will not correctly pronounce misspelled words.

All the best,

Richard

Hi. What you're seeing (or hearing) is an alternate spelling of the word. Because Wikipedia's contributors come from all over the world, you may see different spellings of the same word. This spelling appears to be British English. You may also want to read our page on English variations to learn more. TNXMan 17:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, depending on the article, it may be spelled either way. Articles on British subjects should use British spelling, ones on U.S. subjects should use U.S. spelling etc. If there is no obvious choice given the article, it comes down to the preferences of the first contributor. I can see how this might be problematic for text to speech software though. Maybe this is something for the more technologically clued-up contributors to look into? AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:57, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See also recognized and recognised on Wiktionary. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:05, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds like an issue to raise with the author or company that makes your text to speech screen reader. There are many other words that also have multiple valid spellings (British vs U.S.) that I encounter on the web. The author should try to accomodate that. DMacks (talk) 18:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect spelling of town on map

The town of Morganton is incorrectly labled as Morgantown on the area code map of NC which can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Northcarolinaareacodes.gif

Since it is a gif file, I cannot edit it myself.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.163.234 (talk • contribs)

That file was created by User:Gooday.1 who is now under the username User:Triadian. I have left a note at that user's talk page, but they have become inactive; they haven't done much in about a year. Perhaps they will get the note and fix the file some time though, since they seem to check in about once a month. That's the best solution I can think of. Perhaps another Wikipedian with graphics skills could recreate the file with the correct spelling. --Jayron32 19:01, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The mistake is present in the original map (the wikipedia file is just a copy of a file published/hosted by the North Carolina State Library). Isn't that crazy? Doesn't mean we can't fix it--someone with the graphic-editing ability can and should:) DMacks (talk) 20:10, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

North Carolina: 48th in the nation in teacher salary. This is my adopted home state. I'm not saying, I'm just saying, ya know... --Jayron32 20:33, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have corrected it, by editing the GIF. Let me know if there's any problem. Chzz ► 11:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the articles for improvement page?

Hi, busy cleaning up the Chevron article, I visited this page, Lawachara National Park, to wikilink to it and, although what one could consider a 'full article', it appears to have serious issues which would need quite a lot of attention - amongst others, not very English English, lack of wikilinks for animal species, overcapitalization, lack of captions to images, some peacock words, lack of NPOV in last section and so on. Anyone brave enough to take this on or bring it to the attention of the relevant wikidesk?
It is very enthusiastic though and I do love the primate gibbon who "in an attempt to flee, jumped onto the electric cable and surrendered to death". Very poetic. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 19:33, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh god... I'm horrible. I can't stop giggling at the image that sentence evoked. Anyway will see what I can do with the article.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 20:26, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Best. Wikipedia. Sentence. Ever. Seriously, it is stuff like this that makes me miss WP:BJAODN. There should be a place to enshrine writing of such sublime beauty. --Jayron32 20:30, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If nothing else, in tragic memory of a very dramatic ape. :'( Ok, I'm stopping. LOL -- Obsidi♠n Soul 21:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, there is some sort of sublime beauty in not simply dying but "surrendering", in French se rendre, "giving oneself up", to death especially by electrocuting oneself. Oh where is the Wiki-shrine to good faith edits that are unintentionally hilarious. RIP dearly departed gibbon. This (and your replies) are still making me :=) CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 22:21, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the copy editors' guild may be of assistance, but other than that, I don't think there's a specific request page. TNXMan 19:39, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Any of the tags listed at Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup will add the article to a maintenance category. Ideally, these categories should act as "articles for improvement" pages. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Argh! It seems User:Annilkhan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) scattered similar crud through many low-profile articles during his short stay. All seem to pertain to Bangladesh economics in one form or another. Possibly connected to Shrabon publishing or to a university. Needs serious cleanup work.LeadSongDog come howl! 22:25, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to all for the replies, will take on board the cleanup tags, sounds like LSD (?) has given us a hitlist of articles to check, Obsidian, when you've finished giggling will you do what you can? Cheers! CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 22:30, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, already on it, heh. Will take me a couple of days at most. P.S. only the park heh. The rest of his contributions should probably be given to the guild for cleanup.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 04:35, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done I had to completely replace virtually all of the existing text and find new sources. Please copyedit further if necessary.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 14:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! that was fast and radical :=) cheers! Now I can link to it from the Chevron controversy section, great work OS. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 16:15, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Also found out that the poetically tragic phrase was apparently a copyvio from a single source with no other confirmation elsewhere (which is odd, considering they are critically endangered). So no gibbons may have actually died. Which makes me feel a bit better for finding it hilarious, lol.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 16:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, saw that, now the poor thing only "allegedly died", maybe he's still dancing around, swinging from electric cables and just generally flipping death off. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 16:55, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It could be a miracle! This may even start the Rt Rev Edmund F. Gibbon on the path to canonization. (sorry, couldn't help myself!) LeadSongDog come howl! 20:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ROFL. First poetry, now a sneakily perfect perfect pun?-- Obsidi♠n Soul 21:13, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Need advice

Would offering cow urine as a welcome drink as part of a welcome message be offensive? Please advice. I think it's very impolite, but I need some neutral opinion on this. Nameisnotimportant (talk) 20:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anyone should comment on the situation unless you can provide a diff or link to show where this has been done. The question you ask is so silly I can't imagine it being a serious matter for discussion unless you are somehow misrepresenting the situation. Please show us where this has happened, or it has been proposed to have happened, so we can all be knowledgable enough to comment on the situation you are asking for advice on. --Jayron32 20:56, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Jayron for commenting on this. I too think that it is very silly. You may want to look at the snap on the extreme right of the welcome message.

Please see if this is appropriate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dotty%27s_Bappa You may want to use something to translate the text in "Hindi" to English. Nameisnotimportant (talk) 21:03, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Panchgavya for some context on the drink.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:07, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Would an experimental thing be considered polite to offer, specially having 'cow urine'. I read about it and till date 700 odd people use it. That too when 'cow urine' is being highlighted. Is this appropriate? Please advice. Nameisnotimportant (talk) 21:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the problem is that you are presenting this in a way which makes it seem more foul than it is. I could describe milk as "glandular secretions from a large mammal." I could describe beer as "fungal excretion products". The template in question didn't say, in English "Here, have a warm glass of cow urine!" I don't find the template terribly welcoming, but then again I don't come from a culture where the drinking of Panchgavya is commonplace. Where I live, it is common for friends to share a beer, however if I greeted a devout muslim editor with "Welcome to Wikipedia, here is a nice beer!" he may be horrified at the prospect. I don't think the person who created that welcome was necessarily being rude or disruptive; perhaps they were merely earnestly trying to be friendly, but came off at worst as being culturally insensitive in my opinion. My feeling is that they should desist from using that particular welcome message, but not because it is cow urine per se, but because Wikipedia is a multicultural venture, and to avoid unintentionally offending people even in a friendly gesture, try to use a more culturally neutral welcome message. --Jayron32 22:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the detailed response. I appreciate your time and effort in looking into this. Drinking 'cow urine' is not a common practice in India, drinking coffee or tea can be considered parallel to 'beer'. Thanks again for the effort. Nameisnotimportant (talk) 23:29, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've never been to India, so I will have to take your word on that. I was merely trying to WP:AGF and not assume that the person who left that welcome message was intentionally trying to be insulting or offensive. Sometimes, it is an accidental (if avoidable) offense rather than an intended one. I agree that the welcome message in question is inappropriate, though for a different reason than it seems that you do... --Jayron32 23:40, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Never been to India as well, but I suspect the beverage is not quite as commonplace as hinted. Probably consumed only for medicinal/religious reasons, and not equivalent to the coffee, tea, or cookies offered in the usual welcome messages. -- Obsidi♠n Soul 07:35, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I encourage, in the strongest possible terms, the distribution of cow urine to new editors. Bottoms up! Abyssal (talk) 05:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to get one contributor's permission to authorize an article for publication that has over 500 anonymous and robot authors?

I am writing a book and I plan to use some information from Wikipedia. However, my publisher requires that I obtain authorization from each contributor to Wikipedia. Some of them are no longer valid usernames, robots, and anonymous editors who can only be identified by their IP addresses. Given the large number of contributors and the uncertain number of "valid" contributors, who exactly would I turn to for authorization? Is it possible to obtain authorization for the entire article from just one valid contributor?Selfawareness (talk) 21:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IINM, authorization is already given provided a list of editors is given credit for it and it is released under CC-By-SA 3.0; see Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License and Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. —Jeremy v^_^v ^{Components:V S M} 21:54, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. Every page should have a link on the side that says Cite this page - if you click that, you'll see that the authors or any given page is simply listed as "Wikipedia contributors". This is fine by our licenses. Also, each editor has agreed to our Terms of Use, specifically the "Information for re-users" sections, which states: Attribution: To re-distribute a text page in any form, provide credit to the authors either by including a) a hyperlink (where possible) or URL to the page or pages you are re-using, b) a hyperlink (where possible) or URL to an alternative, stable online copy which is freely accessible, which conforms with the license, and which provides credit to the authors in a manner equivalent to the credit given on this website, or c) a list of all authors. (Any list of authors may be filtered to exclude very small or irrelevant contributions.) This applies to text developed by the Wikimedia community. On the Cite page for any article, you'll see a link given as "Permanent link" - this is what you'll want to include for attribution under section a, above. (You could use the other methods as well, but I believe this is the simplest.) ^Avic_ennasis @ 00:45, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Deleting vs. merging

I KNOW I'm not supposed to take offense or get personally involved and all that, but I created a page on the Draft Trotter a few months back. I spent MANY good hours on the article, inserting photos and researching info. Now, checking back, I see that the page has been turned into a redirect to something they call the "coldblood trotter". The new article, contrary to my old one, is essentially a stub, doesn't carry much interesting info, and just isn't as good as my old one. I know. Objectivity. Anyway, I would have liked to CHECK on my old article to see what was so damnable that it was deleted - but I can't seem to find it anywhere, in deletion logs or elsewhere. I read somewhere many years ago that information on Wikipedia never disappears, but I'm drawing a blank here. Help, anyone...? Thanks, Nimloth250 (talk) 22:43, 3 August 2011 (UTC)Nimloth250[reply]

Changing an article to a redirect does not delete the article. It is still in the page history. Click "Redirected from Draft Trotter" at top of Draft Trotter. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You created the article 25 April. A merge discussion at Talk:Draft Trotter was started the same day. Your last edit to the article was 26 April [6] when the article had a merge tag but I see you didn't enter the discussion. The article was changed to a redirect 3 months later. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Simpler: click here. That will give you a list of every version of the article, ever. Click a date to see whichever older version you want; if they're all the same kind of horse, then you can 'edit' the old version to copy the old text and finish up a proper WP:MERGE. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:29, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ever so much for your help. Now I actually have access to the information I'll pull what I can out of it and try to write a better article out of the one that was created from the merge. I feel quite stupid for dropping out on the merge discussion. I should have been there for it! Nimloth250 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]

How is this possible?

Ζ Apodis is a redirect to Zeta Apodis, while Z Apodis is an article. How can two articles have exactly the same title? Ryan Vesey Review me! 22:56, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The same way that Ζ redirects to zeta: the character is a Greek zeta, not a latin Z. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 23:09, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)The first uses the "Zeta" character from the Greek alphabet (check the URLs for the code for it) while the second uses the letter Z. In many fonts, they look indistinguishable. --Jayron32 23:10, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In my browser there is absolutely no difference which led to my confusion. Ryan Vesey Review me! 23:11, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, the first link is to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%96_Apodis, while the second is to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Apodis. There clearly shouldn't be two different articles though - this needs fixing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:12, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if the redirect shouldn't also be deleted as an improbable redirect. —teb728 t c 23:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

True, there is a histmerge that needs to be done. But I think the OP was fundementally confused about the Zeta vs. Z issue. Seperate (but still important) issue. --Jayron32 23:13, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an astronomer but according to the data it is two different stars. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well then, perhaps there should be two different articles. --Jayron32 23:26, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

V confusing. I've asked on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Astronomy#Zeta Apodis. Chzz ► 08:05, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some more research on this, and *both* articles are correct. For the Latin Z, the terminology for Variable Stars was originally to use single latin letters starting with R and then double letters in a certain method followed by the Genitive of the Constellation (Apu -> Apodis). This star is (latin letter)Z Apodis. For the Greek Z, the "normal" stars in constellations are designated by a greek letter (lower case) followed the Genitive. I've found some redirects from the latin looking equivalent to the Greek (latin letter) A Centauri to Alpha Centauri. While I haven't seen any other with the capital Greek letter part of the redirect to the greek letter, it certainly seems reasonable and were it not for the existance/significance of the (latin letter)Z Apodis, it wouldn't be confusing. An astronomer wouldn't be confused in most literature because the Variable star would be written as Z Apodis and the "normal" star would be ζ Apodis. Not sure what to do other than a well worded "Not to be confused with", I guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talk • contribs) 11:30, 4 August 2011

Ah. Does this help, then? See [7]. Chzz ► 12:07, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I've added hatnotes, [8] and [9]. Does that sort it out? Feel free to edit/improve on it, of course. Chzz ► 12:15, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. I didn't realize that the lowercase template worked in alphabets other than latin. There is nothing in the lowercase template documentation that discusses anything other than the latin alphabet. Is the limitation that pages can't start with lower case letters extend to lowercase greek letters (in the english language wikipedia) Naraht (talk) 13:14, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the limitation still applies - if you type "α" into the search bar, it automatically goes to "Α" (alpha) with no redirect, just like "a" goes to "A" ay. —Akrabbim^talk 13:25, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

and а to A which redirects to A (Cyrillic). Armenian appears to do it as well, and I don't have the unicode set up to do Coptic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talk • contribs) 16:36, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I joined your book club

ON JULY 19,2011, I JOINED YOUR BOOKCLUB AND NOW MY PRINTER IS HUNG UP WITH YOUR E-MAIL AND I CAN'T PRINT.... MY E-MAIL IS:[redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.72.219.29 (talk) 23:05, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 PrimeHunter (talk) 23:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 4

reticular theory

I can´t find this article. Is there a way or place where I can request for a new article? I'm natural speaker of spanish. Thanks. --Andreateletrabajo (talk) 01:30, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you could request an article at Wikipedia:Requested articles, but it might take a long time before a volunteer gets around to writing one. In the mean time you could find a little about the subject in the biography of Joseph von Gerlach. —teb728 t c 01:51, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Try Neuron doctrine, Santiago Ramón y Cajal#Works and theories, and Heinrich Wilhelm Gottfried von Waldeyer-Hartz#The neuron theory too, because the ref there indicates it might be the same thing, Cajal, S. Ramón y. (1954) Neuron theory or reticular theory: Objective evidence of the anatomical unity of nerve cells. Transl. MU Purkiss and CA Fox. Madrid:Consejo superior de investigaciones científicas. Chzz ► 11:50, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I'll redirect Reticular theory to Santiago_Ramón_y_Cajal#Works_and_theories, which seems perhaps the best target - but feel free to correct me. WP:BRD. Chzz ► 11:54, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but technically are not the same. The first studies thinks that brain was a syncityum (a giant cell with millions of nucleus all together in a net made with neuronal fibers). Neuron doctrine pruve that was wrong and every neurone was independent and not form a net (not in the way describes at that time). So, when Cajal says "Neuron theory or reticular theory" he was giving the bassis to choose one and deplect the other. They´re two very different (opposites, actually) ideas. I will follow the advise and request the article in Wikipedia:Requested articles. Even when I'm admin at es:WP, I´ve got any idea of how to correct a redirection here. Thanks. --Andreateletrabajo (talk) 01:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IP addresses

I want to know IP addresses of websites managed by Wikimedia Foundation. 125.235.109.221 (talk) 03:05, 4 August 2011 (UTC) ~~:If you want to hack Wikimedia, sorry, no. This information is not supposed to be public, sorry.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:24, 4 August 2011 (UTC)~~[reply]

Sorry Jasper you are wrong. This information is public. According to ARIN the following IPs are allocated to Wikimedia:

208.80.152.0 - 208.80.155.255

http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-208-80-152-0-1 DouglasCalvert (talk) 03:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And we will not tell you which IP is which or even the ones used.Jasper Deng (talk) 03:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Though that info can also be found easily, and there are legitimate reasons for wanting to know this information. Let's WP:AGF of the OP. FYI, It takes much more than knowing an IP to hack a website. ^Avic_ennasis @ 05:28, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Just enter command prompt and type in ping.exe en.wikipedia.org if you are using a Windows, Linux, or UNIX machine. I don't know about Macs. Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Of course, there are other Wikimedia servers besides the web front-ends...Jasper Deng (talk) 16:18, 4 August 2011 (UTC)~~[reply]

The list of IPs I gave was not a list of the web frontends. It was a list of the IPs that ARIN has allocated to the wikimedia foundation. Jasper there is no reason to be hostile to this request for information. The OP never suggested he wanted to hack wikimedia. DouglasCalvert (talk) 00:42, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia itself publishes the information at http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/IP_addresses.--v/r - T P 00:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How do I move my Content Box?

How do I move my Content Box back down where it was, beside my maps? I don't know how or why it popped up to the top of the page, but it doesn't look good there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyCam (talk • contribs) 03:24, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see you fixed it with this edit. The top of the infobox goes at the point in the article where you place it; so you generally want to place it at the top. —teb728 t c 05:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn't fix it. I moved my map. I am trying to move my table of contents back down below my definitions but above my first heading, so it will be in the article, across from my map but not above it. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyCam (talk • contribs) 07:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. I got it. I had to remove the == == from my first heading to move it back to the top, above my table of contents. Thanks anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyCam (talk • contribs) 07:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For future reference, you can force the Table of Contents to a different spot that normal by using the magic word __TOC__ ^Avic_ennasis @ 07:55, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Also for future reference, the lead section of an article is a summary of the article, and it does not have a section heading. That is why (unless you force the placement of the TOC) the TOC comes before the first section heading. —teb728 t c 08:25, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

...because, when it is live, the actual name of the page will be "Mental Health in Africa" (or something), and that makes the "title". Chzz ► 11:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed with Harvnb references

Resolved

I'm using Harvnb references in my article Murder of Julia Martha Thomas, but none of the Harvnb links for D'Cruze work, and the single Gaute link (ref. 36) also doesn't work. I can't understand why they're not working, as they don't seem to be formatted any differently from any of the other references. Can anyone help? Prioryman (talk) 06:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They will not work if the Bibliography entries contain multiple author names. (Though I'm not sure why.) ^Avic_ennasis @ 06:58, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I figured it out:

Change the

{{harvnb|D'Cruze|2006|page=53}}

entries to read like

{{harvnb|D'Cruze|Walklate|Pegg|2006|page=53}}

And change:

* {{cite book|last=D'Cruze|first=Shani|author2=Walklate, Sandra|author3=Pegg, Samantha|title=Murder: Social and historical approaches to understanding murder and murderers|publisher=Willan Publishing|location=Cullompton, Devon|year=2006|isbn=9781843921691|ref=harv}}

to read like

* {{cite book|last=D'Cruze|first=Shani|last2=Walklate|first2=Sandra|last3=Pegg|first3=Samantha|title=Murder: Social and historical approaches to understanding murder and murderers|publisher=Willan Publishing|location=Cullompton, Devon|year=2006|isbn=9781843921691|ref=harv}}

Also, do likewise for the Gaute reference, and that should work. ^Avic_ennasis @ 07:12, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Done, by me. c/f FAC page. Chzz ► 09:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New entry

Hi,

I've set up a page (about 3 weeks ago) and it's not appeared who do I contact?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.242.19 (talk) 07:41, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What exact title did you use for it, or what username were you using when you set it up? This is the only edit for 95.146.242.19. —teb728 t c 07:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can avoid a lot of these "IP communication" problems if you create an account, because all your edits would be associated with it - see Wikipedia:Why create an account?. Chzz ► 07:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed incomplete Wikilink from previous para, since Chzz has added the full link later in the sentence. --ColinFine (talk) 08:29, 4 August 2011 (UTC) Oops; thanks Chzz ► 08:35, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear what you mean by "set up a page", and "appeared". Only named accounts can create pages, so I'm guessing that you edited the user page of whichever IP address you happened to be using when you did it. If so, that page is still there somewhere, but it's very hard to find unless we know the IP address. As teb728 says, this is the only edit for the IP address you are using now. (Even if you did the edit on the same machine, ISP's often issue IP addresses dynamically, so you many not get the same one again). You might find it helpful to read WP:Your first article.--ColinFine (talk) 08:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I had a look, and found only two pages created fairly recently by IPs in this range. So, maybe it is one of these - both were submitted for review in "article for creation", and both declined; reasons are shown on the pages;

If it isn't one of those, apologies; I was just trying to help find it. Chzz ► 08:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It might be Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Alastair Sooke since the OP did say 3 weeks ago and this AfC was sent in 3 weeks and 3 days ago.--v/r - T P 01:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How to remove 'User' from main title of Wikipedia entry?

Hi

I've recently created a Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wefsctr/World_Economic_Forum_Supply_Chain_%26_Transport_Risk and would like to know how to remove "User:Wefsctr/" from the main title, as it seems to appear by default.

Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wefsctr (talk • contribs) 10:37, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like you figured it out yourself - you moved the page, and it is now live. [10].

So is this question already answered?

The article, by the way, lacks any independent reliable sources, so there are problems with the notability - see WP:CORP. Chzz ► 10:56, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the feedback I left here? I see the article is now proposed for speedy deletion, which might have been avoided.--SPhilbrick T 12:15, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your user name is also probably a breach of the user name policy as a WP:CORPNAME. – ukexpat (talk) 13:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion needed please

Hi, I've somehow made a mistake. One of my incomplete articles has been posted and is therefore live. It's listed under User:Transaus/Transport Legislation Amendment (Taxi Services Reform and Other Matters) Act 2011. I've resaved it in my drafts. Not sure how this happened. Thanks a lot. Transaus (talk) 11:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can just add {{db-author}} to the top and an admin will stop by and delete it. GB fan please review my editing 11:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did just that, [11]. Chzz ► 11:29, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done--SPhilbrick T 12:17, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki users request money

Some wiki users are requesting money about adding or editing some contents. My page as same as http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AB%E3%82%B4%E3%83%A4%E3%83%BB%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A3%E3%83%91%E3%83%B3 But japanese wiki admins are keep deleting my page.

If my article deleted for spam then why same articles stay there? If that page is still there then why my article was deleted.

What should i do for reporting some certain users for requesting money. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.179.32.161 (talk) 11:27, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: カゴヤ・ジャパン seems to be "Kagoya Japan", a Japanese IT company.

If you are asking about a page on Japanese Wikipedia, we cannot help here - you would have to ask on Japanese Wikipedia.

Each language Wikipedia have their own rules; their own policies and guidelines. They are not the same. The existence of a page on another language wiki does not mean it is suitable for English Wikipedia.

If you are you asking about an English Wikipedia page, please tell us the name of the page (even if it has been deleted). Thanks, Chzz ► 11:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Nazis on power trips who "dominate" and act like little Hitler's in determining content on some pretty important subject matter

I'm not a savvy techie but there seem to be autocratic busy bodies deleting content from wikipedia sites like the one on my tribe which mostly has an oral history that we want to share/preserve. When we speak of the genocide/murder of our tribsemen in Baraki Barak by the Soviets these were eye witness and refugee accounts that are not detailed in any book. Most of these people are illiterate. Why should u tube videos on tribal mores be deleted when they've been videotaped and provided by memebers of the tribe. Isnt this useful info on culture and mores? Who made some busy body the gate keeper of a very useful site albeit without professional monitoring. This is not right. If this person identifies self as a tribesmen with clout to delete our history we can accept this but to carte blanche delete materiel that others would find of interest borders on tactics reminiscent of the Soviets...whose actions well we all remember and not in the most positive light!

V/R Virginia City — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virginiacity (talk • contribs) 13:09, 4 August 2011 (UTC) Sorry left out the page in question: Burki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virginiacity (talk • contribs) 13:10, 4 August 2011 (UTC) (edit conflict)[reply]

Please do not call a group of people "Nazis" and suchlike; to do so is a personal attack. If you have a specific complaint about a specific user, we can deal with that, without name-calling. See WP:CIVIL.
"u tube videos" are not, usually, a reliable source because we don't know who uploaded them; we can't verify any claims made within them.
Please remember that Wikipedia is not an appropriate venue to discuss your political issues; we can discuss "this part of this article is biased/wrong/needs fixing", but we cannot discuss the way society as a whole treats the history of that tribe, or anything else like that; see WP:SOAPBOX.

The above query isn't helping us to make Wikipedia articles better. If you have some specific concern, which you think we can help with, please explain it - with reference to an article, and whatever you think is wrong with it. But please remember, Wikipedians are working collaboratively, to try and make articles better. If a specific user isn't helping with that goal, we have processes to deal with that; shouting about a perceived generic problem, without showing specific examples, will not help us make progress. See Wikipedia:Staying cool when the editing gets hot. Chzz ► 13:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: The above reply was made before you added the page in question. Having now looked at your edits to Burki, and other people disagreeing, I suggest you start a discussion on Talk:Burki. If two or more users disagree on something, it's vital to talk about it, and work out some agreement - not to just keep trying to force edits into the article.

In the event that you cannot reach agreement, there's various ways to sort it out. Please see WP:DISCUSS. Chzz ► 13:22, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am always astounded by the cavalier way (and the commonality) with which people will throw around comparisons to Nazis and to Hitler. I really wonder how this started. "How dare you remove my X from X on your website... it's just like herding whole families into cattle cars so thick they are standing on top of each other, transporting them for days with no food or water, separating the survivors from the corpses at the death camp destination, separating them out into lines of those who will be shot or gassed or burned immediately and those who will be worked to death." Yes, the comparison is so apt and appropriate.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My favorite still has to be this, though I admit that an e-mail from someone who saw fit to compare me to Pol Pot is pretty close. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 06:26, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reductio ad Hitlerum / Godwin's law. Chzz ► 08:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Author identification for Confidence in Factual Correctness

I use wikipedia a lot. I'd really like to know who the authors are for the scientific and technical articles to know whether they're grad students or well established experts in their respective fields.

It would be nice to have a table other than View history with authors' nonanonymous information - where do they work/teach? their background, etc.

It's not just a matter of someone correcting articles; it's a matter of identifying those authors who are willing to be associated with their writing(s). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.223.8 (talk) 13:53, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contributors are welcome to put their real-life ID, and professional qualifications, and other such information on their user page, if they wish to do so. Some random examples being User:Waldir, User:jbmurray, User:Adam Bishop.

It is difficult to imagine how any "standard qualifications" could be shown on a page history directly, and I don't think it would be desirable.

However, registered users can enable the popups gadget in your preferences, then hovering over a user-name will give a quick preview of the associated user page.

Remember, of course, don't believe everything you read. Chzz ► 13:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) :Many contributors don't want to reveal their true identity on Wikipedia for valid reasons I don't want to outline here in detail. Anybody who is willing to reveal his true identity will probably do so on his user page. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:05, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To address the original issue, Wikipedian contributors are not exactly the 'authors' of the ideas they are writing about. They are only conveying the information, they are not the origin (see Wikipedia:Original research). You're better off clicking the tiny numbers beside each sentence or paragraph. They will take you to the specific reference that the information was based on. Then it's up to you whether the sources the contributor uses are reliable enough.

Scientific and technical articles will most often have peer-reviewed academic journals as sources. But every now and then, you'll find some dubious information sourced to dubious references in between the solidly-referenced text. Remember that articles are usually the combined work of numerous people, not a single editor.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 14:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Academic studies of Wikipedia#Peer reviewed may be of interest; see signpost, here. Chzz ► 14:35, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Citation taskforce

Is there some kind of citation taskforce, ie a task force where I can request help with sourcing unsourced statements in an article? I have list article with a huge number (in the hundreds) of unsourced entries. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:13, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You could post at the talk page of an appropriate Wikiproject for the subject-matter of the list. Those editors would be most familiar with the kinds of sources for that topic. What is the article you have in mind? -- John of Reading (talk) 16:23, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article is List of conglomerates. The appropriate place to request help thus seems to be WT:COMPANIES (or maybe WT:BUSINESS). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:27, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with this article is, that sourcing each entry is a real pain and I am not sure if anyone from these WikiProjects would be willing to jump in. Therefore my question, is there a group of editors specializing in sourcing unsourced entries in articles with large numbers of unsourced statements like this one? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Editing in General

I wonder why the "Missing Manual" isn't prominently displayed on the left hand side of Wikipedia or at least on the "Reference Desk"? Because it is an absolute pain just for me to find it the first time. Fine you have the tutorials for newbies. But what about for those who aren't new and therefore would not re-read the tutorial? Maybe that's why Wikipedia is losing contributors; you want people to continue to contribute but you have them go through a maze to find out how to do more advanced things. Angry bee (talk) 16:36, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Probably better if you post this in Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) where there are people who can actually implement it. :) FWIW, I agree that Wikipedia's 'tutorials' are mind-numbingly labyrinthine.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 16:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Linking new picture to facebook info.

I edited a picture for my university page, and I want it to appear as the thumbnail for my school in the facebook info section. So far the old picture hasn't been replaced. How long would it take? Or do I have to follow a different course to make it happen? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nadyaqureshi (talk • contribs) 17:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uncategorized template

Hello. I was reading Help:Category and Help:Categories, but I found no link to the Template:Uncategorized in any of these 2 pages. But I think it is an important template the reader should be aware of. I think it should be both mentioned and linked. So can you please fix this problem? Thanx --151.75.96.139 (talk) 17:30, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Russell Crow

Extended content

To the actor Russell Crow

I am confirming that the Qualla Bear picture is the signal for The Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia Washington D.C. ^{[details removed]} that the whole activity was compromised and every thing was a struggle, that I had to go through everydam step, please forward that message,

That I am at the Embassy of Panama which is the courtyard of the starbucks coffee shop..

and it is the Embassy of Paraguy, as I purchased the right for it to be the Embassy of Panama ( I purchased this as an Embassy of my foster father Richard Dreyfuss as a suprise, and foster mother Marcia Clark the property has a code which is the MArriage Certificate between I and Ann Convertino of Gateways Hospital and Mental Health Center Los Angeles( The Vatican have the means to interpet the code, and Sylvester Stalone who didnot want us to be married has the interpreter, as well as Sharon Stone), and the persons who hit me with a board in my yard when I lived at 40635 159 th street East are paraguy, that essentially betrayed me as Deutshe Bank trust Company America employees, they apparently got caught up in the Masons like Chun Il Sun Wells did as Mel gibsons girl friend, Those Panamanians were not supose to hit me with a board that waas the signal of betrayal deep in this minds, and I was the President of the country for about 15 years, I suporrted Paraguy

SO MANY PEOPLE DIDNOT WANT ANN AND I TO BE TOGETHER LET ALONE MARRIED, SO I HID A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE, AND GAVE THE INTERPRETER TO THE A PERSON I KNEW OPPOSED THE MARRIAGE, AND WHO ACTUALLY DOESNOT LIKE ANN CONVERTINO, I do not know the reason , but Sylvester Stallone doesnot like Ann, ( Mary Ann Convertino)of the probation dept in City Hall Los Angeles, who is also Ana Torres, and I am Daniel Torres, that is our married name, and in the film (Daniel and Ana)

I knew IL SUN was Mel Gibsons Girl friend, after she betrayed me in the second TACO DEL criminal case, se did that to get my money from Deutschs bank,

Referance to this is my drawings from Capitol area Vocational center Springfield Illinois 1978 to 1980, I remeber waht I wrote on those drawings, and I know that people are in shock that their bettrayal is evedent by a review of the notes, and events that have passed, as well as event which are occuring every day, I see the Television messages, and the internet information, I know I am being told about the notes and my signal confrimation of a fact you have confirmed for me,

And it is scary how much was know about you back in 1978 and what we knew you would do, and the fact is you are where you should be exposed as a thief , a liar, a deboterist, and the fact is many of you I just do not want to see again, Becasue YOU are NOT SULLEN enough for me to be around,,

YOU Know where you satnd with me if you reall think about it, and you know waht is going to happen to you in the years oe eternity to come so do not go around saying I am your friend or we get along becasue we do not,

Christian Amedus Pendragon The KING OF ENGLAND aka Danny M. Wells <blanked> Embassy of Italy

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.230.9 (talk) 17:41, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 17:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cool story, bro.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 17:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In cases such as this where the OP is quite obviously not entirely rational, shouldn't the entire topic be deleted? Roger (talk) 18:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's still every chance the poster could come back expecting to find some kind of reply. Doesn't really hurt to keep it here. Hidden. Яehevkor ✉ 19:21, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How do I create a page for a songwriter?

I want to create a new page for a songwriter. How do I do that? I already searched and there is no Wikipedia page for him. I no I can edit pages, but I want to actually create one. Thank you in advance Jkathleen88 (talk) 20:01, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Standard advice follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article.Template:Z26 – ukexpat (talk) 20:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) A good starting point is a userspace draft (see Help:Userspace draft). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 20:23, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Scott_Evil

Is to ok to categorize Scott_Evil under the category Category:Fictional_American_people_of_Belgian_descent since his father Dr._Evil is Belgian? Neptunekh2 (talk) 22:50, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Valid Categories: How come categories like Category:Fictional_American_people_of_German_descent get to exist but categories like Category:Fictional_American_people_of_Belgian_descent can't exist? That doesn't make sense. Neptunekh2 (talk) 22:56, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not OK to put any article in that category because there is a consensus that there should be no such category. —teb728 t c 23:00, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category has been G4'd. Editor recreated it after it was deleted at CFD a couple of weeks ago. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~I have no problem against the category being created, if you can find more than one article that would belong in it.~~ Nevermind, I did not see that it had been previously deleted via discussion. ^Avic_ennasis @ 23:01, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

For reference, the discussion is at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 10#Category:Fictional American people of Belgian descent. —teb728 t c 23:07, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Technically there isn't even one. Dr Evil turned out not to be Belgian - he is Austin Powers twin brother, turned evil because he was brought up by Belgians. LOL --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Live help

New users, you can also get rapid help here

Chzz ► 22:51, 4 August 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Perhaps showing new users how to sign up for freenode ahould be the first step. Bielle (talk) 23:00, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Except you don't need to register a nick on freenode to be able to use IRC - not to mention it'd be overly complicated for users who just want some quick-help without having to jump through hoops of registering this or that. ^Avic_ennasis @ 23:02, 4 Av 5771 / 4 August 2011 (UTC)

When I first clicked on the bar, it took me to a site that required a user name and password. That's when I wrote the suggestion. The second time I clicked on it, I didn't need the registration. Bielle (talk) 00:38, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why that was. If you see the username/password boxes again, simply uncheck "Auth to services". ^Avic_ennasis @ 08:23, 5 Av 5771 / 5 August 2011 (UTC)

If we could make it even easier, then I'd approve. See Outreach:Talk:LiveHelp. Chzz ► 01:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

August 5

Protecting my wp account

Hello, I remember seeing something about how to protect your wikipedia account but I can not find the information anymore. The basic idea used some sort of challenge/response or nonce word and a SHA digest. Any clues to what happened to this info? DouglasCalvert (talk) 02:01, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you asking about WP:COMMIT? —teb728 t c 02:15, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thats the one! Thank you I tried my hardest but I could not find it. DouglasCalvert (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vector images of trademarks

What is the correct procedure to deal with media in Category:Vector images of trademarks? Nearly all of these images seem to fail WP:NFC Policy 3. b.. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:13, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For the purpose of WP:NFCC#3b the size of an SVG logo is taken to be the rendered size. So the logo should be rendered no larger than is required for the purposes of identification and/or critical commentary. (See {{SVG-Logo}}. The fact that it could be rendered larger is not considered a 3b violation. —teb728 t c 10:25, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

3b says "This rule also applies to the copy in the File: namespace." When I click for example 2000px at File:007.svg I am leaving the File: Namespace, as the 2000px rendering is at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/007.svg/2000px-007.svg.png. Perhaps this means, it is in fact not a violation. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article accreditation

Please could I be sent a break down of the accreditation or rating system for Wikipedia becaues it often features in my research and would like to know how to rank the various pieces in relation to other sources I might use. A graduated validation system would be ideal with an explanation of how ratings or attained.

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankylisk (talk • contribs) 09:36, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you are asking about the reliability of information in Wikipedia, it is not reliable at all, but as a matter of policy all information must be verified (or at least verifiable) with a citation to a published reliable source. (And Wikipedia itself may not be used as a source on Wikipedia.) So if you want to validate the information you get from Wikipedia, you go to the sources and validate the information there. —teb728 t c 10:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See also Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia and Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

template for code of federal reguations

Is there a template useful for citing US Code of Federal Regulations? Something like template:cite journal but for CFR. DrMatthias (talk) 11:31, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I found what I'm looking for: Template:CodeFedReg. DrMatthias (talk) 11:50, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's unfair to add such Allegations/Controversies on a biography when nothing has been proved yet. Article Subrata Roy

In the section "Controversies" of the article "Subrata Roy" there are two different allegations 1. 2G Spectrum Scam and Contempt of Court & 2. Securities and Exchange Board of India Ban

Both cases are still under judiciary and nothing has been proved yet. In contempt of the court case Senior Advocate K K Venugopal said on behalf of the CBI that: “Evidence found till now is insufficient” Reference: http://post.jagran.com/2g-case-cbi-examines-radia-others-in-allegation-against-sahara-1310403191 . In case of SEBI ban, Supreme Court of india on 15th July 2011 granted a stay on market regulator SEBI’s order of June 23, 2011 that ordered Sahara Group companies to return the money raised through optionally fully convertible debentures (OFCD). Reference: http://profit.ndtv.com/news/show/sc-directs-sahara-to-approach-sat-against-sebi-order-on-ofcds-164375 So according to me it is unfair to write about these Allegations/Controversies on a biography when nothing has been proved yet and it should be deleted from this article. I would like to request all contributors to put your views forward on this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.122.14.34 (talk) 11:35, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They are sourced and notable, I'm afraid. Just please note the wording used. The sections carefully make it a point to say 'allegedly', this is compliant with WP:DUE. Removing them is unhelpful, as that is tantamount to censoring. If you think this might be a guilt by association scenario, it may help if you add other viewpoints of the cases instead. You already have the sources in hand.

Also see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, Wikipedia:Controversial articles, and Wikipedia:Criticism.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 11:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to Country Risk wiki page and editing country pages

hi, I am trying to update the "country risk" page which already has information about a survey and wanted to give a better overview of what the survey is about. It was not intended for advertising. Also, I have been unable to add a reference link to country pages about more details on the actual rankings. please advise! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emresearch6 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Perusing your contributions, it looks like you are spamming a link across multiple articles. Please do not do that. I would suggest reading our guide to advertising, as that may assist you. TNXMan 13:01, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) Both the adding of links and your user name suggests you are operating under a conflict of interest. Your actions would appear to me to be reference spamming. I would not recommend you continue as you have, your best bet is to read the guidelines I have linked you to, then if you feel these links add something to an article you can suggest it at the article talk pages (i.e. Talk:Country_risk) and independent/uninvolved editors can add it to the articles if they feel it will contribute. Яehevkor ✉ 13:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Privacy and Safety

If I have a Wikipedia username, can my IP address still be discovered? I have been targeted before by botnets and am worried that my Wikipedia posts may have been the reason. I have abandoned my old account and have created a new username as a precaution. Did I really need to do that?

If anyone knows about this (really knows, please no guesses) please let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Writeonandon (talk) 12:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Only specific, privileged users called checkusers have access to IP data of contributors, and they must identify themselves personally to the Wikimedia Foundation to prevent abuse of the data. So no, no botnet-operator can find your IP address from your username. However, if you ever accidentally edit logged out, you should contact an administrator or oversighter to get the IP hidden. Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:58, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Registering an account hides your IP address. There are a very limited number of users (called checkusers) that look at your IP info. This is only done, however, if you are suspected of operating multiple accounts contra policy or otherwise abusing Wikipedia. TNXMan 12:59, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Drop of Contributors

I can understand why there is a drop in contributors. So many pages are monitored by someone with a large ego that feels like the own the page. Every time someone updates the page the revert it back, over and over and over again. I just gave up on contributing because it became a waste of time fighting with these people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.61.148.178 (talk) 12:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The editor seems to be sore about their contributions, like this one, being removed. That was removed because items in a list of that sort should be notable and have an article first and then they can be added to such lists. That is one of the provisions of WP:REDLINK. Dismas|^(talk) 13:46, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting an error

I found an error in an article that I want to bring to someone's attention, but I don't want to change it myself. What can I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.166.84.225 (talk) 13:27, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can mention it here or on the article's talk page, where other interested editors can see it. TNXMan 13:28, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You could also have mentioned it here and one of us could have taken a look at it. Dismas|^(talk) 13:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Usablenet Wikipedia Page Status

Hi there,

I created the Usablenet Wikipedia page a couple weeks ago and it has yet to be approved. Do you know when it'll go live?

Thank you in advance for the quick response! Briana

briana@launchsquad.com

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