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March 27

Search Query Spell Check

I strongly encourage Wikipedia to improve their search query spell check. If a user makes a very slight error affecting only 1 of the letters in the search the result comes up unknown. Instead, like all modern search engines, Wikipedia should be equipped with a spell cheker and offer suggestions if it seems that the input has been spelled incorrectly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 167.206.128.33 (talk) 00:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

The MediaWiki software does have such a feature but is disabled for performance reasons on all language Wikipedias. x42bn6 Talk 02:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

In the meantime, you can use a modern search engine to search Wikipedia. Here is a list of several useful search methods. --Teratornis 16:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

What do we do about vandals

Often, a user will be created and go on a vandalism spree as Grecofski just did (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Grecofski). We can go through and revert what he has done, but are there some immediate steps that can be taken to have him blocked?

Ordinary Person 00:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• Take them to WP:AIV--VectorPotential^Talk 00:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

mariah carey

I use wikipedia to crosscheck birthday info. Some SICKO has left a biography of Mariah Carey that is laden with 4 letter expletives which need to be deleted. Help.Spikerooski 01:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The article was vandalized, it appears to have been cleaned up already. jwillbur^talk 01:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Infobox shenanigans

Hi! A new friend of mine tried editing an infobox, and while it looks fine to me, it apparently messed, causing the field below it to be indented. Any thoughts? —Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 03:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Please bring this up at template talk:Infobox U.S. state. Most states have so many Representatives that including them in the infobox will cause layout problems. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

my username and e-mail are not being saved and confirmed.

i keep putting it in and right now i'm logged in, but if i close the window i can't log back on.— (email address removed to thwart spambots) angie lawrence 05:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)ednlynn

This happened to me a while back. Perhaps you can use the "forgot your password" function? This resets your password- perhaps that's where you're going wrong? CattleGirl ^{talk | sign! | review me} 08:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

There might be help found at Help:Logging in. If nothing there helps, you might also get help at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). — coelacan — 09:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Wiki

I've heard of being able to create a wiki, such as the one called Wookieepedia. I am interested in creating one devoted solely to the "fanon" of Star Wars, where people could contribute articles about common fan "canon" about Star Wars in fanfics, fanfilms, etc. How would I go about applying?

You don't apply; the software is freely available for you to run on your own server. Wikipedia aren't in the business of running Wikis for other people, though. Notinasnaid 06:00, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The wiki software in this case is MediaWiki, and you can reach it via http://www.mediawiki.org. You will need a web server, a database management system, and PHP. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

And some serious system administrator skills! Life can be simpler with a LAMP or WAMP stack, but starting your own wiki requires familiarity with operating systems, the command line, and a bunch of other things casual computer users do not usually know. See b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki if you are determined to plunge ahead, but first see if a suitable wiki already exists. Search WikiIndex for Star Wars. That finds, in fact, a wiki which mentions the very word "fanon": Star Wars Fanon Wiki. --Teratornis 16:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• See http://www.wikia.com I can't remember the name, but I'm positive you'd be duplicating efforts if you started one. A Star Wars wiki already exists. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:30, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
  • It's Wookieepedia (http://starwars.wikia.com/), at Wikia. --ais523 08:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Wookieepedia has an article on Wikipedia; the questioner mentioned it initially, although without the handy link I edited in up there in the original question. The questioner seems to want to write Star Wars-related material that the questioner seems to think is unsuitable for Wookieepedia. I suggest reading the policies on Wookieepedia carefully first, and checking the Star Wars Fanon Wiki I mentioned above. --Teratornis 16:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

One already exists. -Wooty Woot? contribs 01:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

How do I propose a section for deletion?

I think that a section in the Eminem article should be removed ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem#Family ). How do I go about proposing that simply the section be removed? --Scotsworth 06:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Propose it on the talk page of the Eminem article. Anchoress 06:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

...or be bold and remove the section, as long as you feel it's reasonable and not vandalism. Scottydude 16:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest, if reasonable and not vandalism, just to delete it with a good edit summary of why, but if somebody changes it back that didn't list "vandalism" (and you aren't a vandal) you probably need to discuss it. [Mαc Δαvιs] (How's my driving?) ❖ 16:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes

I'm a little new to Wikipedia, and I'm still wondering how to make Infoboxes. Can you tell me how to?

Supermiggelo 10:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Most probably, you want to add an existing type of infobox to an article. The easiest way for pretty much all infoboxes is to copy the infobox from an existing article on a similar subject and to modify it (change only the bit after the = sign on each line of the infobox). Creating an entirely new type of infobox is also possible, but highly complicated; see Template talk:Infobox for details about that. --ais523 10:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

If you can't find a suitable infobox by examining similar articles, or by checking Category:Infobox templates, tell us the name of the article you are editing, and someone will find one for you. In the worst case, someone could help you design a new one. More infobox links are at User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Inf. --Teratornis 16:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Categories

I'd like to link to a couple of Categories from my user page (to be able to go straight to them and keep working). However when I put [[Categories:whatever]] on my page, it doesn't show up. Can someone help me please? Cricketgirl 10:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Link to [[:Category:whatever]], with an extra colon at the start. The same syntax works for linking to anything without special processing (but it comes up with categories and images most often; the only other time it can come up involves links to versions of Wikipedia in other languages). Hope that helps! --ais523 10:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to create two different articles bearing the same title?

Is it possible to create two different articles bearing the same title? For instance, there are two great jazz musicians who have the exact same name. I want the name of the article to be the musician's name, but I keep on getting to the other musician's page. what can I do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Icexcellence (talk • contribs) 11:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

No, because there would then be no way to distinguish between them in links, and so on. The convention is to add a modifier in brackets after the name, for instance, Java (coffee) and Java (programming language) are two different things, and Java itself is an article about the island. Once you've done this, it's good practice to link the articles together by writing {{otheruses4|what this article's about|what the other article's about|the other article}} on each article, which produces:

This page is about what this article's about. For what the other article's about, see the other article.

Hope that helps! --ais523 11:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Normally, you would call your page "Joe Bloggs (musician)" or Joe Bloggs (football player), but two musicians obviously needs more specificity. If they play different instruments, you could use that, but check Naming conventions first. Adrian M. H. 16:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

And in that case it would be Joe Bloggs (harpsichordist), and Joe Bloggs (mandalinist). :) [Mαc Δαvιs] (How's my driving?) ❖ 16:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

NPOV and Undue Weight: Is this a minor proposal? or a controversial one?

There is a major discussion going on about Wikipedia:Attribution right now. Despite that I have what I think is a minor proposal about rewording "Undue Weight" ... before rewording it though, I'd like to get feedback to make sure my proposal is indeed 'minor' enough to go ahead and change. What's the appropriate next step? dr.ef.tymac 14:04, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

wrong info

In the article "synthetic diamond" under the heading "synthetic gems" there is a false company web link that states that Apollo Cultured Diamonds can be acquired through "diamondscultured.com". This is absolutely wrong! We are not affiliated in any way with that link and would like you to remove it immediately. See the paste below.

Synthetic gems Adia Diamonds, Chatham Created Gems, Gemesis and Tairus all produce gems made through HPHT technology. They are grown in split sphere high-pressure, high-temperature (HPHT) crystal growth chambers that resemble washing machines. The device bathes a tiny sliver of natural diamond in molten carbon at 1500 °C and 58,000 atm (5.9 GPa). This produces a rough diamond which can be cut to down to a polished size close to half its original carat weight. Gemesis diamonds have an orange tint that is rare in natural diamonds. The yellow tint occurs when approximately five out of each 100,000 carbon atoms in the diamond crystal lattice are replaced with nitrogen atoms. Adia Diamonds produces diamonds in various shades of yellow and orange as well as blue and white (colorless). The blue color comes from doping the diamond with boron, rather than nitrogen, during the growth process. White diamonds must be grown in an environment free of nitrogen and boron, which makes them very difficult to produce. Yellow diamonds are more profitable because they can be made more quickly and cost less to manufacture than blue or colorless diamonds.

Another company, Boston, Massachusetts-based Apollo Diamond, uses the low-pressure technique of chemical vapor deposition (CVD) to produce larger, more expensive diamonds with greater control over impurities. The diamond produced is a single crystal, as opposed to the polycrystalline patchworks formerly produced by CVD. This greater measure of control allows Apollo Diamond to produce diamonds of various colors, from pink to black. The ability to control the intentional introduction of impurities, doping, is necessary for the creation of diamond semiconductor devices. Apollo Diamond gems are currently available on their online store (diamondscultured.com) in the form of both loose stones as well as finished pieces of jewelry.

The mine —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.90.98.1 (talk) 14:37, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

This is a wiki you can change it yourself, for help, get a user account and place {{helpme}} on your userpage. Scottydude 16:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Help with transwiki

Someone created Lines (poem), and it's a no-brainer candidate for transwiki to Wikisource. The meta help file on this is confusing, so I'm coming here for help in executing the transwiki. YechielMan 16:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I would suggest writing a WP:STUB, and just copy-pasitng the text of the poem over to the appropriate spot on Wikisource and copy-pasting that little thing on the top you're supposed to have, with a category or two, and link to the author's page. [Mαc Δαvιs] (How's my driving?) ❖ 16:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Removing title

Looking at the Main Page, I cannot see how they removed the header (Main Page). I assume it is similar to the __NOTOC___ code. What does that? --Kainaw ^(talk) 16:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you can. I'm pretty sure this takes place in an area that only admins or developers can edit (the MediaWiki namespace or the MediaWiki software, respectively), and is limited to the main page. — coelacan — 17:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Each page can have styles specific to it using the class "page-<pagename>". In the Monobook skin CSS the "firstheading" style in the class for the main page is marked as "display: none". -- Rick Block (talk) 18:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, okay. However, this should not be done except perhaps on a userpage, as it will be too misleading anywhere else. — coelacan — 18:53, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I ended up adding bit of PHP to the main skin in the skins directory to tell it h1.firstheading should be set to dieplay:none if $this->title = "Main Page". Now, the Main Page on our Wiki is lacking the title like on Wikipedia. It looks much nicer for the main page to have the title removed. --Kainaw ^(talk) 22:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

spell check

frequently if i don't have the correct spelling of an item i am looking up on wiki i have a hard time finding it. Other browsers or search engines ask you "did you mean..." and list several alternative spellings

of the word you have entered. Wiki dosen't do that. Cant you add that feature?

wr —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.139.16.50 (talk) 17:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

See Wikipedia:Help_desk#Search_Query_Spell_Check above. Long story short: no. The server load is too large to handle. In the mean time, you can use a normal search engine to search Wikipedia. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 17:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Special pages ranking

Where can I find out about the order in which articles are automatically listed on Special page lists? It seems just hapharzard to me, but I'm assuming that's not really the case. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 17:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking the same recently, when using the What Links Here feature. I suppose that they must be listed in chronological order, but alphabetical would be more useful. Adrian M. H. 18:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

It is far more likely that they are listed in the order that they exist in the database. It takes time to sort lists and, in this case, sorting is not necessary. --Kainaw ^(talk) 18:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Alphabetisation would save time/effort when checking for specific entries in the What Links Here list, which I use frequently. Some of the lists are very long. Adrian M. H. 20:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, the option to sort chronologically would be great for the whatlinkshere of user pages, so you can see the order in which you left comments that you've since lost track of. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 12:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Google and snippets (subtitle added by Lenoxus to avoid confusion)

I edited this page on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jossara_Jinaro but the information still shows up on the www.google.com index, google advices the following:

Prevent or remove snippets

A snippet is a text excerpt that appears below a page's title in our search results and describes the content of the page.

To prevent Google from displaying snippets for your page, place this tag in the <HEAD> section of your page:

<META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOSNIPPET">

How do I do this so that the information doesn't come up on the google index

You can't. Google will update themselves soon. Prodego ^talk 20:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, please create a new section (as I just did for you) if your comments do not relate to the previous section; thank you. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 12:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Help

How do you put change pictures or put pictures on Wikipedia?

Wikipedia:Images. Start there and follow the sub-articles. Adrian M. H. 20:28, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey Template protocol

Where am I allowed to post the following type of template:

It has been proposed below that Today's featured article procedures be amended. The original proposal was rejected at as per discussion at the archive.
Discussion is now open on the amended proposal 2 below. Support or oppose the amendment should be on the proposal page, under the heading "Survey". If, after a few days, a clear consensus for the amendment is reached, please notify the administrators noticeboard for further assistance.

TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 20:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Other Wikis

I've seen websites called sitename.wiki.com and it looks just like wikipedia, but it's the persons own website, how do I do this?Menma

The Help Desk is intended for questions about how to use Wikipedia, not about other resources that are available. Try [www.wikia.com] . Hersfold ^(talk/work) 21:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• The used the freely available MediaWiki software to do this. Questions about MediaWiki should be asked elsewhere, the link is at the top of this page. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. --Teratornis 04:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

March 28

Links being removed - Why??

I have been adding legitimate external links. Not spam, completely legit. and someone removes them and posts a nasty note saying I am spamming. There is no way to respond to this person so I am posting here in hopes of finding out what the problem is. I am posting to George Clooney/External links and my site is ClooneyNetwork.com. It is a fan site just like the other fansites listed. There is no reason why this link should be removed. Is there a way to email the person who keeps removing my links?

If you want to add a fansite, you have to discuss it on the talk page first--$UIT 00:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I do not see any fansites listed on that page. Fansites as a general rule add nothing to an article for "further reading", and so are generally excluded from the external links section. -Wooty Woot? contribs 01:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The Wikipedia guidelines are that at most one fan site be used per article, so it sounds as if the article needs a major clean up. Notinasnaid 07:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and since it is your site, you must never ever add a link yourself. That's considered a conflict of interest. (See WP:COI, WP:EL guidelines). Notinasnaid 07:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

That's interesting, where is the guideline relating to fansites? I've seen articles with up to 10 different fansites listed so it would be useful to quote something when I remove them. Crazysuit 22:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

See WP:EL#Links normally to be avoided, paragraph 10. Corvus cornix 23:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place, all I can see is a guideline about social networking sites, forums, etc? Crazysuit 15:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Fan pages are social networking sites. Corvus cornix 20:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, it's your site right? If it so, I agree with Notinasnaid Shindo9Hikaru 00:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Getting my request taken

Dear Wikipedia, What do I have to do to get my request taken? On October 8, 2006, I put in a request for an article on adult model Nicole Oring. And I followed the proper procedures. It is now five months later, and I STILL have not gotten my request taken! You have entries on other Asian glamour models, including Teanna Kai, Akira Lane, and Felicia Tang, so why doesn't Nicole get an entry? There was an extensive article about her on AVN.com in August 2006, if you need sompelace to start. There are some poor souls who have been waiting more than two years to get their requests taken. I haven't gotten there yet, but it still sucks that it's taking so long! I had other requests too, but what's the point if nobody is bothering to answer? Please? Pretty please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.67.234.80 (talk) 01:43, 28 March 2007 (UTC).66.218.17.15 02:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

AfC has a huge backlog. I don't see your request in the archives, do you know the exact date? -Wooty Woot? contribs 01:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It was October 8, 2006 and it is under Wikipedia:Requested articles/Culture and fine arts#Celebrities and cast & crew members under N. Hello? Thank you for your quick and speedy response to my request! In case you haven't guessed, I'm being sarcastic! I answered your question Wednesday! Not only have you not responded, my request STILL hasn't been taken! What's going on? I have been checking and checking this page frequently for the last few days!````

Why not just be bold and create the article yourself if nobody else is interested in doing so? The whole point of Wikipedia is that anyone can contribute! Casper Gutman 09:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Archbishop David I. Hartman

I am trying to attach my photo with my biography. I do not know how to accomplish ths; please help--Archbishophartman 01:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• WP:IMAGES should probably answer your question--VectorPotential^Talk 02:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You do know that editing an article about yourself (or a company with which you are affiliated) is regarded as COI? This history shows that you created the article in its entirety. Adrian M. H. 10:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Schools

I recently tried to wikify an article on this high school in India. I have a couple questions about it.

• It's wikified enough now, right? The tag can be taken down?
• It was tagged as a less than notable biography in February. I tried to change it, but apparently WP:Schools is defunct. Does this mean that (practically) all schools are notable (therefore the tag should be taken down)?

-Haikon 02:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Seems wikified enough, I've therefore removed {{wikify}}, I'm not so sure about the notability though, schools are a bit of a gray area as far as WP:V is concerned. There is also Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools if you're interested--VectorPotential^Talk 02:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that was fast. Thanks. -Haikon 02:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

help with damaged page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiing can someone please revert the damage, thanks

--SKirthova 02:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for reporting the problem. Mike Dillon 02:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

thx :)) someone had a lot of time on their hands... --SKirthova 02:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

That may be true, but reverting those changes didn't demonstrate that. It didn't take more than a minute to revert. See Help:Reverting for more information. Mike Dillon 03:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

thx, hmm I thought only admins can revert, well that was helpfull Mike --64.7.152.136 12:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Headline text

how to download a page from this website?

You can copy the text and pictures of a page and paste it in to a word processor like Microsoft Word. If you don't have MS Word than you can right-click your mouse and select "save page as..." to save the entire page. If you can provide us with more info (like what OS eg. Windows, Mac) on your situation then we can better assist you. Hope this helps! -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 03:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Pam Pinnock article

HI know you guys are very busy but I cant seem to get Pam Pinnock article to look like the other articles. There is no content block visible and I tried to add her book cover to the article and it is not visible unless you click on my contributions. Is there away to get someone to help by edting the page. I have spent hours and cant get it to work out

It's always nice if you wikilink the page you want people to go to, to save them a bit of time. Pam Pinnock. Anchoress 04:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

What are the "other articles"? By "content block" do you mean an {{Infobox Writer}}, or another infobox template (I suspect you do)? Click the "edit" tab at the top of one of "the other articles" and look at its wikitext. You will see code that creates the infobox (if the other article has an infobox). Also, Talk:Pam Pinnock should have a {{WPBiography}} template, so I added one. For an example of a well-developed biography article about a writer, see Sidney Sheldon and Talk:Sidney Sheldon, and visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography to learn how to edit biography articles. Also please sign your posts here by typing four tildes ~~~~ after your message. --Teratornis 05:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I added a {{Infobox Writer}} to the Pam Pinnock article. I don't know values for some of the fields. Hopefully other editors will fill them in. --Teratornis 06:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Debate on Wikipedia

Is there a centralized page linking to the various debates which occur on Wikipedia, such as Articles for deletion and Requests for adminship? If not, there definitely should be. If so, it should be better publicized as "yet another way to help" on such pages as Contributing to Wikipedia. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 04:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The deletion debates are listed here: WP:XFD. Viridae^Talk 04:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'd actually known about that. Sorry I didn't make my question clearer, but... Do you know if there's a more comprehensive portal even than that? $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 16:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so. You could always write one, if you're interested. --ais523 16:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

There isn't, but the WP:Village Pump and the WP:Community sanction noticeboard are two places where discussions about policy etc happen. Anchoress 20:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional tips! *Rolls up sleeves* *pauses* *Unrolls sleeves* All right, give me at least a week on this. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 22:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Referencing

Ok, suppose I have a book, and there are many pages with information I want to reference. Instead of typing the entire {{cite book}} reference over and over again with the different pages, how can i just write the {{cite book}} once since its the same book for all the different pages and just have wikipedia somehow show that when you click on the first reference you are looking at this page number, and when you click on the second reference you are looking at these pages numbers, etc... hope this makes sense hehe (:O) -Nima Baghaei (talk) 04:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

If I understand what you're saying - I don't believe you can do this. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 08:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to repeat the entire entry, you can use forms like op cit. Here's an article that does that a lot: Vinayakas. Notinasnaid 08:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I've seen pages before where they combine abbreviated in-line cites with a full bibliography, such as Saint Patrick where the Notes section gives abbreviated citations by author and page while the References section gives the complete cite book info. If the pages you wish to reference fall close together you could also cite the chapter or page span for several instances. --tjstrf talk 17:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Unless I misunderstand the original question, I think this should do what is desired. Casper Gutman 09:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Firefox doesn't display images

When attempting to view images in Firefox 2, I always get a message to the effect that the .jpg file cannot be displayed because it contains errors. I did find a section, under the present subject/headline, on the Wikipedia troubleshooting page, but the solution given there is not usable, since Firefox 2's "Tools" menu does not contain an "Options" submenu nor any of the checkboxes mentioned in that article, nor can I find any such selections anywhere in Firefox's menu structure. You may want to update the troubleshooting section to reflect the situaton with the current Firefox version.

What IS the solution to this problem with Firefox (other than using a different browser?

66.222.245.65 04:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• I don't know how to help you, but just thought I'd tell you that I'm using Firefox 2 and it's working perfectly fine. Where's this troubleshooting page anyway? I'd want to check against mine since I can find an "Options" submenu. --Jellyfisho?^talk! 05:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Creating an account at wikipedia:ja?

I want to link relevant articles from the wp:ja page to wp:en (like [ja: 少年アリス (坂本真綾)][1] to Shounen Alice) but apparently w:ja has blocked my IP address. (Stupid proxy thing I think!) I thought of creating an account but I'm not allowed to as well. How do I get around this problem? (I would ask an administrator there but I can't read Japanese.)

By the way, is there a way to link articles to wp:ja from wp:en without resorting to stuff like [2]?

Thanks much, Jellyfisho?^talk! 05:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You can link from wp:ja to wp:en via [[:ja:page title]]. As for the other thing, I'm not sure. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 15:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for that info! --218.186.9.1 16:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC) Oops, forgot to login. --Jellyfisho?^talk! 16:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Watching several categories

Hi! We would like to watch the contents of several (similar, overlapping but no all-encompassing) categories simultaneously. I tried several combinations of category-link formats in User:Saintrain/RCCats and tried Special:Recentchangeslinked/User:Saintrain/RCCats but none seemed to work. (Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:Wine works as hoped, but because of the inconsistencies of wikicategories (Shocked! Shocked I say!) it would be nice to see all the updates for several cats together on one page without redundancies.) And the sub-cats, too

My preference would be to have these on a non-watchlist page; i.e. all the cat:dancexxx results on one page, all the cat:winexxx on another, etc., but I'm easy.

Are such things possible? Thanks. --Saintrain 05:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC) & 06:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

P.s. When I add a cat to my watchlist, it doesn't seem to do anything!? Is that expected?

• When you add a category to your watchlist, it keeps an eye on the content of the category, not the pages the cat is added to or removed from. If you want to watch cats properly, there should be a link to a script at the bottom of my userpage. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

1. Thanks MGMage. I saw your script before but misunderstood what it did. Looks cool. But sub-cats have to be added individually, yes?
2. I test-added two cats I "watch" to a userpage. The page showed up on the cat pages but NOT on my watch page!? It seems only changes made to the cat PAGE display. Oh well. --Saintrain 19:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Reporting a Vandalist!

User:Philwelch is going all around WikiPedia and saying and putting cateogories that people are gay, even ones that aren't and are married.Trampton 05:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

Thank you, Trampton. For future reference, you should read WP:VANDAL and learn how to alert vandals that their actions are inappropriate. Also, the proper place to report vandalism is at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism.--Vbd (talk) 06:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Can you give an example? I couldn't find any gay-related edits in a quick glance. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Gotta second that. Phil hasn't edited much at all lately, and nothing that smacks of what User:Trampton is complaining about in his most recent edits. Corvus cornix 23:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Page listing

Hi, I wonder if it's possible to get a listing of articles that I've started please.Johnfos 08:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Talk to User:Interiot. I believe he runs a tool that can do this. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Foreign Language Citations

Hi, Wondering what the policy is on references cited which are not in English. For example, in the Solar updraft tower article, references 15, 16, and 17 are in Spanish. Johnfos 08:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• English languge citations are preferred (so feel free to replace them if you can find English sources that corroborate everything the source is about. Otherwise, they're perfectly acceptable. Especially for subjects that aren't widely known outside their own country. For example Chinese celebrities are more unlikely to have English sources on them than a Hollywood star. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if there is one, but there may well be. I use German sources sometimes and just add (German language) between the article's title/link and its publisher. Hope that helps. Adrian M. H. 11:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Editing

Hi I have been trying with very little luck to edit and have a page Kaizo PR re launched on the wikepedia programme, I have editied the content to ensure coherent with all rules, but what ever I do I just can't work out how to save and make go live.

Kaizo PR —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaizo (talk • contribs)

Please review Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, thanks. There was already a message to this effect on your talk page. You should absolutely not be creating pages about your own company. You did create a page once, but as it was only one sentence it was deleted ([3]). But please don't do it again! Please also remove the advert from your user page, thanks! Notinasnaid 09:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

For reference, what's the best procedure for dealing with inappropriate user pages? A tag? (If so, which one?) Or an MfD nom? Adrian M. H. 11:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

If it falls under one of the G-type reasons listed at WP:CSD, such as nonsense (G1) or spam (G11), then it can be tagged with the appropriate template. Otherwise, MfD is the way to go. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 14:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Veinor. Adrian M. H. 20:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Is it ok to remove warnings from one's own talk page?

I've seen mixed guidelines regarding this. I've seen an old archives guideline that said removing warnings from one's own talk page can be considered as vandalism, whereas I've seen another recently (can't locate the link right now though) that says it's fine to remove warnings and that the removal of a warning also confirms receipt. Please could someone clarify? Many thanks, --Rebroad 11:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• It is frowned upon. There has been some debate, and what I've seen suggests that it is no longer considered blockable vandalism by most people, but it isn't considered good practice. We all accumulate warnings in our Wikipedia careers. Owning up to mistakes is a good thing to do. Archiving really old stuff, and removing personal attacks, is entirely in order. Notinasnaid 11:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It would be best if you archived the warnings. Whether separatly or together with the rest of you messages is up to you. See WP:ARCHIVE for more info. · AO ^Talk 11:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the speedy replies. Can a warning template ever be considered as a personal attack - for example, a bad faith warning for a first warning? --Rebroad 11:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I assume it must be ok, as I've been told off for reverting said removals before :P Heliomance 11:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there any wikipedia guideline or policy which helps to clarify this? It would be useful to be able to cite it, for sure. Thanks. --Rebroad 12:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Is there a generally-accepted procedure when a warning is replaced by multiple, multiple links such as this talk page? I'm inclined to ignore it, as the editor has obviously seen the warning that was removed.Eggishorn 19:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It is absolutely acceptable and not officially frowned-upon to remove warnings (or anything else) from one's own talk page. It is not policy or even a guideline to archive talkpage contents; in fact many many admins just delete stuff they don't want from their talkpages, and in fact some admins actually delete their talkpage histories. Warnings can under some circumstances be construed as attacks. Anchoress 21:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I completely disagree with Anchoress. It is acceptable, since it shows that the user read the warning. However, depending on situation (i.e. erasing the warning, and then continuing vandalizing) it can be frowned upon. Not officially, since nothing is officially frowned upon, but it is not seen as proper. Admins should not delete their pages unless they are following the deletion policy; removing personal info is the only reason I can think to do that. No legitimate warning is a personal attack, as long as it is a warning, not an attack. Prodego ^talk 21:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I said it isn't officially frowned-upon, and you agree. So how are you completely disagreeing? And I've seen many, many WP:AN/I threads where people are warned for warning using warning templates, because those templates were considered an attack. Your qualification of 'legitimate' makes it more complicated, because there is a huge gray area. The closest to 'official' that I've seen is that it is frowned-upon to give an experienced editor a warning template even for a clear violation without first discussing it with her/him. Anchoress 22:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Anchoress, thanks. Would you be able to cite where you saw this please? I've been using wikipedia for over 3 years, and recently received my first ever uw-move warning on my talk page, except it was a uw-move3 with no prior discussion from the user. The wording was also very accusatory with various assumptions of bad faith. I took it to WP:AN/I, which resulted in me getting blocked, and nothing said to the user who issued the warning to me. Swings and roundabouts I guess. --Rebroad 12:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

It's been discussed numerous, numerous times. I'll look, but no promises. Anchoress 22:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's one, but there are numerous others. Try looking through THIS google search, which is where I found the example I left you. But I also urge you to read THIS editorial comment I left for a fellow Wikipedian; it may be best for you to just drop this issue, unfair though it may seem. Anchoress 22:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit warring and use of warning templates

If two editors are involved in an edit war, is it acceptable for either of them to leave template warnings on the other's talk page warning them to stop or they will be blocked? Many thanks in advance for any clarifcation on this. --Rebroad 11:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:POINT - warnings first?

1) Is violation of WP:POINT an immediate blockable offense, or should warnings be issued first? and 2) Does it apply to making a point on user talk pages when the edits are only part of an ongoing discussion between two users? Many thanks, --Rebroad 11:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It depends on the severity of the violation and who has made the violation. If the violator can be linked to another vandal account, then probably they'll be banned immediately. If someone is dumb enough to carry out one of the examples listed on that policy page, then they may well recieve a straight block if an administrator catches them at it. Blocks are left to the discretion of the sysops - if you feel that something was unjustified, talk it over with them. They'll always have a reason.

For your example above, I wouldn't think that would merit a straight block, unless as before the person making the point has a history of disruption or went way too far with it. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 15:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• YOu can't argue in a discussion without making a point. The key with WP:POINT is that it has to be disruptive to be blockable.- Mgm|^(talk) 08:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

how do we report rude users?

there are some users who make bad remarks in the history page of articles. such as saying "your edit is nonsense. LOL" how would we report such users? I just think they need to learn how to be considerate and fair.

You could use Template:uw-agf on their talk page. I think it's important to use the template properly though, making it clear exactly to which edit you are referring. --Rebroad 12:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I disagree in part; I wouldn't use a template to an experienced editor, but I would suggest as a first step talking to them on their user talk page and asking them to be more polite, providing a few diffs. If they remain aggressive and uncivil, then think about how you might "report" them. There are a few different ways you could go, but my advice is keep it simple, to keep things from escalating. Drop a line to an active admin, asking them to review the diffs. If necessary, the admin will know how to escalate things. --Dweller 12:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dweller, I agree that leaving warning templates isn't so appropriate when it's to an experienced user. I think the templates are good in the sense that the wording has been refined to be as non-insulting as possible. From recent personal experience, I've found it can be quite easy for warnings to be left but worded badly so as to escalate the situation. I agree a personal touch should be better, but only if one has an agreeable person touch. Cheers, --Rebroad 14:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:TEMPLAR is an essay but a damn good one. -Wooty Woot? contribs 19:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Brain tumour

Could you please send me an article or articles on brain tumours.

Thanks

–—…°≈≠≤≥±−×÷←→§155.232.128.10 12:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi! We are an encyclopedia, the whole site is, and what information we have is not sent to anyone but available right here. All you need to do to search for something is type it into the search field on the left hand side of the screen. I think what you are looking for is Brain Tumor (<---that's a clickable link). If you'd like to ask after more specific information on brain tumors, please ask any further questons at the science section of the reference desk (this page is for asking question about how to use the site), but note that users are discouraged from giving out medical or legal advice. Hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Deleted entry

Good morning

I am the publisher of Northern Stars - Canadians in the Movies. From time-to-time, when we're not busy building content on our own site, we try to add the occasional link to material on Wikipedia, particularly when we believe our addition will enhance your own efforts.

Yesterday we added a link to our page on Leslie Nielsen, the Canadian-born actor, and the link was there when we checked back an hour or so later. This morning it is gone.

I'm a little curious as to who decides what? Is there some form of censorship at work? And is the film section of Wikipedia really just a shadow site of the Internet Movie Database?

Northern Stars was launched about 10 years ago, enjoys a large following in Canada, has won some awards, and is used as a reference source by people in the film and television industry both in Canada and elsewhere. We often recieve requests to reprint some of our unique content, including biographies, and the rare photographs within the Northern Stars Collection. I am curious. And a little offended.

The website can be found at http://www.northernstars.ca —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.159.197.38 (talk) 13:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

You can check the history of the Leslie Nielsen article at this page. This will let you know who decided to remove the link. You could discuss this decision on the article's discussion/talk page (there is a tab that will open the talk page at the top of each article), and invite the user who made the change to join the discussion by posting a message on their user talk page. Please don't be offended just yet. Talk to the other editor; find out his or her reasoning. They may have believed that your additional link fell into one of the categories described at Wikipedia:External_links#Links_normally_to_be_avoided. Sancho (talk) 14:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

From what I can see, the person who removed the link felt that it violated our policy at WP:EL. Please review that policy and discuss the removal on the talk page as Sancho suggested. We're here to help people use Wikipedia, not to answer questions about why different things happen. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 14:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You should bear in mind that the guidelines quite specifically say you should not do this. That is, please do not add links to your own web site, it is considered a conflict of interest. You may propose links. Notinasnaid 21:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair use?

What, if any, fair use rational could I claim for using this image (found at [4]) for use in the company info box for the West 49 article? Sancho (talk) 13:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Use the {{logo}} template. Note that whatever you upload should be as low-resolution as possible, and it may only be used in that company's article for identification purposes only. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 14:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Sancho (talk) 14:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Linking to Excel Spreadsheets or Other Files

Is there a way to link to excel spreadsheets or other filetypes?

--Joseph Kralovic 15:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of is uploading an image of the file or typing the information in the article. Scottydude 16:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to set up a link to open an excel or word template so an image would not work. --Joseph Kralovic 17:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Make it an external link? Excel and word templates are not usually suited to making an encyclopedia. What are you trying to do with these? - Mgm|^(talk) 08:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

We really shouldn't. Excel requires that you purchase Microsoft Office, thus making the link unreadable by those who don't possess the software. Corvus cornix 20:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

vandalism on myspace page

the myspace page needs to be reverted and i am not a general user for wiki so i dont know how to do it.. thank u for ur time brainiac007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.125.211.169 (talk) 15:52, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

User:MartinBot found and reverted the vandalism. For information on how to revert vandalism yourself, see Help:Reverting. --ais523 16:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Bad langauge.

When I typed in Myspace, it said something about that Myspace is gay and it swears. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ixtoothin (talk • contribs) 16:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

Looks reverted to me. Perhaps related to the heading above? x42bn6 Talk 16:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry see this link. It was reverted. — Darkest Hour 16:15, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes people like to come by and delete articles and put their opinions there, but we normally catch it pretty fast. There are several bots and hundreds of people watching, I think. I'm watching  ;) [Mαc Δαvιs] (How's my driving?) ❖ 19:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Posting my Website on Wikipedia

Hi Wikipedia,

i need to post my website to wikipedia. It is an automotive site based in Malaysia.

How do i post up an article about my website without violating your regulations? my article got deleted because your moderator says it is blatantly advertising my company.

What are the guidelines in writing an article to serve as an an avenue to find out more about my website.

Thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zerotohundred.com (talk • contribs) 16:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

An article must be notable, see WP:NOTABLE, and must not advertise. All articles are written in an unbaised manner. I suggest you request your article, see WP:REQUEST. Scottydude 16:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

See also: COI (conflict of interest). Adrian M. H. 20:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

User Subpages

Deskana requested a deletion of my user subpages. Is this..uh...legal? Protect Tomato Rights!_{(sign the petition!)}

There's no rule against starting an MfD against pages in another user's user space, as long as there's a sensible reason given for the deletion and the deletion request is made in good faith. --ais523 16:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah. So, if there isn't a good reason, would it be not legal...? Protect Tomato Rights!_{(sign the petition!)}

Correct Scottydude 16:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Mmm. So, what would be a good reason? Protect Tomato Rights!_{(sign the petition!)}

The reasons listed in the MfD are OK with me. x42bn6 Talk 16:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

For anyone who is interested: WP:MFD#User:Da.Tomato.Dude assorted usersubpages - Adrian M. H. 20:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Image's file name

Can anyone tell me how to change the file name of an uploaded image file? I don't see the move button or any tweaks. Apple•_•w••o•_•r••m•_• 16:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, don't think you can. Protect Tomato Rights!_{(sign the petition!)}

You just have to upload it again with a different filename. — coelacan — 17:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Make sure you ask an admin to delete the old one if you do. [Mαc Δαvιs] (How's my driving?) ❖ 19:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair use?

As a member of the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America (RPCNA), I'm familiar with the traditional Reformed Presbyterian logo and would like to see it used on various applicable pages. However, the image description claims that the image is fair use only. How can this be, since (1) the design has been around for 400 years (as noted by the image description), and (2) the banner is used by various churches, including the Reformed Presbytery in North America that denies that the RPCNA is really Reformed Presbyterian? Nyttend 17:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Using/referencing material from wikipedia

I am involved in a Chinese Community oral history project and we will be publishing a book, any proceeds will go to the elders 'welfare' fund. May I use some background information I have found here? should we acknowledged it? Many thanks,--Lorsue 17:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes you can. See WP:COPY#Reusers' rights and obligations. Prodego ^talk 22:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome, of course, to provide some acknowledgement. Wikipedia is an open information source, whose content is licensed under GFDL. You may wish to check the voracity of some information though, just to be safe, given that it is openly editable. See Citing Wikipedia Adrian M. H. 22:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Not exactly Adrian. The GFDL requires attribution (that is why we have the page history), and that extends to using material from a GFDL source. Wikipedia:Verbatim copying explains better. Prodego ^talk 22:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

How to find out changes on my watchlist quickly?

Is there a way to know about changes to articles on my watchlist instantly, or is the only way to keep checking it? Crazysuit 19:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Not that I know of. You just have to refresh it more frequently. Adrian M. H. 22:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I often see in an article's edit history that vandalism has been reverted within a minute by another user, and it's often someone who's edited that article before. How do they catch the vandalism so quickly? I know some users patrol the recent changes list, but how about the others? Crazysuit 01:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

It is the watchlist; I know from experience that it's entirely possible to catch changes on my watchlist within a minute (I check my watchlist highly frequently). --ais523 08:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I haven't actually checked this, but isn't it true that the recent changes page shows watchlisted pages in bold? If so, that would be a way. Anchoress 01:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Redirecting search

I would like to know how to redirect search. Specifically, the companies CDFM² and Heinlein Schrock Stearns merged to form 360 Architecture. CDFM² and HSS do not have entries, while 360 Architecture does. It would be reasonable to have any search for "CDFM²" "CDFM" "CDFM2" "Heinlein Schrock Stearns" or "HSS" to be redirected to the 360 Architecture page where they can see the evolution of the companies.

Please tell me how to do this and/or direct me to a location that explains how.

Sdkucera 19:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Just create a page with the sole content being #REDIRECT [[360 Architecture]] (more information on redirects can be found at WP:REDIRECT). Note that there are many other uses for HSS besides Heinlein Schrock Stearns, so the best thing to do would be to add an entry to the list there, not replace the entire page. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 20:01, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Eliminating the backlog

I am interested in eliminating the Wikipedia:backlog. I would be quite happy with myself doing that :) I don't think I can do it all by myself, so what project, or group is together that is working on that as a whole, or are we stuck with just each of the sections? Thanks! [Mαc Δαvιs] (How's my driving?) ❖ 20:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Section by section, which is good since you need to be an admin for a few of them. But Wikipedia:Maintenance and Wikipedia:Cleanup are good places to start. Prodego ^talk 21:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Capitalizing a name in the title of an entry

I came across an article about me in Wikipedia while googling and noticed that the first letter in my last name was lower case. How do I change it to upper case. Other than a minor grammar mistake in one sentence, I did not notice anything else that needed changing. The article is titled "Michael phillips (historian)"

- Dr. Phillips —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Drphillips2001 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

I assume you mean the article "Michael phillips (historian)". Users with accounts over 4 days old can move (rename) pages. However, your account is not old enough to do that yet, so I changed the title on that page for you. Thanks for contacting us, Prodego ^talk 21:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Help with Formation section in Germany article

Hi. I'm having some technical difficulties with Germany. I have fixed up the Formation section on the right hand side. However, for some reason the last entry, which is German Unification and its appropriate date, is not showing up like all the other formation entries are. I believe it might be because that is the 10th entry for that section, and the code might have to be inputted differently. I hope I'm making sense. Thanks. Lord Vader 21:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

In Template:Infobox Country, there are nine fields, so you will need to add the tenth field. Check the template for any errors after editing, just to be on the safe side. Adrian M. H. 22:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Editing inactive essay

I've been having numerous edit wars on Wikipedia:Esperanza. I recently requested unprotection, and made this edit in order to make the essay look more unbiased. My question is: Did I handle the compromise attempt correctly? The opposing party (Dev920) still hasn't made any direct communication with me other than edit summaries. I would like to know what I'm doing wrong, and what exactly is wrong with my compromise attempt.--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 22:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

As a Wikipedian with marginal interest about the subject's history and who is much stressed about the various conflicts around the project, I'd say that seems like a rather appropriate edit on your part. And editors who try to discuss changes will fare better in the end than those who don't. Xiner (talk, email) 23:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Just my opinion, but I think editors who won't constructively engage, by explaining aggressive edits with a bit more than terse edit summaries, ought to be encouraged to find other wikis more in tune with their particular cognitive biases. Wikipedia cannot be all things to all people. --Teratornis 00:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with Xiner. It's a more neutral way of view. bibliomaniac15 21:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Lowering

What part of this code needs to be altered to move the "₪" down a bit so it does not conflict with the project page, user page and the like links? — Darkest Hour 22:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Suppressing Edit and quickedit

How do you supress [edit] and [edit/Quickedit] from appearing on section headers? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andrew Hampe (talk • contribs) 22:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

__NOEDITSECTION__ But avoid using this in articles. Please sign all comments. Adrian M. H. 22:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm using it in the Community buliten board. sorry, forgot about signing it --Andrew Hampe | Talk 22:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Shoot. Now all of the [edit] boxes are gone. where do i put __NOEDITSECTION__? --Andrew Hampe | Talk 22:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

That is what adding __NOEDITSECTION__ does. What exactly do you want to do? Prodego ^talk 22:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't quite understand what you eman by "suppressing". AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 00:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

He wants to just remove the edit function from one section. I don't think you can do this, or at least I don't know how. Scottydude 02:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

You could try the semicolon for a similar effect. Bad form most of the time, though. Xiner (talk, email) 02:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Making succession boxes

How do you make succession boxes? I've seen several and want to know how to make them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flysaucer (talk • contribs) 22:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

I assume you mean to put into an article? For Template:Succession box appears to be the only one. Either way, instructions are at Template talk:Succession box. x42bn6 Talk 22:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

And I've fixed Judah IV for you as you probably wanted to do. x42bn6 Talk 22:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

School Logos

Are public US high school logos copyrighted? If so, can I use them in high school articles under fair use? Thanks. Steevven1 ^{(Talk) (Contribs) (Gallery)} 22:47, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that would depend upon the high school - either way, a low-resolution version of the logo used only in the school's article for identification purposes only should fall within Fair Use guidelines. Double-check WP:FAIR if you're not sure. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 22:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Public schools, I believe, are established by the US Department of Education, therefore their work should be released under the same statutes as the US Government. Don't hold me to that, but it's likely. DoomsDay349 23:07, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, you can use a school logo in the article about the school itself provided you use {{Non-free fair use in}} with a rationale. However, only work by the US government falls in the public domain. Public schools may be set up by the government, but the person who made the logo isn't neccesarily a government employee, so I'd consider them copyrighted to be on the safe side. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not understanding the article deletion process...

I was hitting "random article" and stumbled across a redirected page that is clearly vandalism. I went through the "propose for deletion" pages, but I don't understand what I'm supposed to do. Do I delete the redirect line so the original article shows up? I'm a tad confused. Thanx! Sunidesus 23:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Just go to that page's history and perform an undo. WP:MOVE may be what you're looking for, and if you could provide the link, then we can look into it further. Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 23:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• WP:REVERT? - Mgm|^(talk) 08:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

March 29

Should userpages be listed in categories?

I see this quite a lot, for example User:Pakalomattam/joel osteen, User:Pakalomattam/jesse, User:BillCJ/Test Article 4, which all appear in Wikipedia categories because they are drafts or copies of actual articles. Should I remove them from the categories? I think most of the time it's a mistake, but sometimes I wonder if these articles are being created in order to have an alternate version categorized next to the official one, so they can avoid usual Wikipedia policy. For example, the first article has hundreds of podcast links, which of course the genuine version does not. Crazysuit 00:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Definitely not the same cats as articles. However, they do belong to subcategories of Category:Wikipedians. There are also situations where users work on articles in their own user space, and in those cases it's allowed, at least for a short time. If the articles are not likely to be allowed in main space, however, they should be WP:MFD'd or WP:AFD'd. Xiner (talk, email) 00:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• If people are working on articles in their userspace, it's recommended to comment out category code until it has been moved into the article space. Just tell them it makes their userpage show up in the category. It happens to myself mostly by accident. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Confirmation Email Deleted

I accidentally deleted my "Confirmation Email". I was wondering if you could send it to me again so I can use Wikipedia to add and edit. Thanks.

Redcab 00:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Check your trash can? If you completely deleted it, just ignore it. Use the login you registered with, you don't need further confirmation. The confirmation letter is just a confirmation. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 00:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

You can also go into your preferences and click on "Reconfirm" at the bottom of the page. Xiner (talk, email) 00:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, everyone Redcab

• AQu01rius, email confirmation is neccessary when someone wants to retrieve a forgotten password. It's best to reconfirm if you're prone to forgetting and having email enabled has all sorts of benefits. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Japanes Internment Editing

For Editor Gwernol

I received the following message from this editor when I travled to Wikipedia today:

"March 2007 Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. As a member of the Wikipedia community, I would like to remind you to adhere to Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy for editors, which you appear to have violated at Japanese American internment. Thank you. Gwernol 23:43, 25 March 2007 (UTC)"

I was very much surprised by this message. I had made one small change. A vandal had changed the name of the United States supreme Court to something like "Sexiest" Court. I simply made the correction to change it back to "Supreme." I'm a high school US history teacher and was fixing a terrible phrase.

I'm not sure how you flag edits as inappropriate or "neutral," but I hope you can look back and see the change I made. I know you are traveling through the end of this month, but I would very much appreciate a response.

66.16.140.22 00:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

PS I didn't know how to leave a message on your stie with all the other comments.

00:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)00:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)00:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)~

Chances are, it was a mistake. Someone else probably saw it and either fixed it at the same time as you or saw your change and accidentally thought you did it. You can remove the comment from your talk page. I hope this incident didn't damage your opinion of Wikipedia, we always welcome editors whith expertise in a particlualr field. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 01:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed the warning myself--VectorPotential^Talk 01:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

For future reference, you can place a comment on a user's talk page by cliking edit this page and placing a header: ==Header== at the bottom of the talk page, followed by your comment. Scottydude 02:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

You most likely were given the same IP (by your ISP) as the other user, resulting in you getting their message. -Wooty Woot? contribs 02:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

There's nothing in 66.16.140.22 (talk · contribs · logs)'s contributions that would warrant the use of that template, it was probably applied in error--VectorPotential^Talk 10:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Posting a question to an editor

Editor Mr. Z-man

Thanks for answering me so quickly on the last comment. No my opinio nhas not changed, and I do appreciate the clarification. Two questions for you (or any editor)

1. How do I post a comment or concern for an editor? Neither your page or Gwernols seem to have an easy to use link like this HELP DESK page. I'm new to Wikipedia, but find it incredivly difficult to find my way around. I know things take time, but little chnages like this might help more poeple take part. (Or I'm just and idot and can't figure it out like everyone else!)

2. How do I delete the message from mm talk page? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.16.140.22 (talk) 01:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

• You can click the edit this page button at the top of the page if you want to leave a user a new message, alternatively you can click the edit button the top of a section if you want to post just in that section. If you specifically want to leave User:Gwernol a message, you can click on this link--VectorPotential^Talk 01:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Capitalizing a heading

I just submitted the article for Emma Dean and I have a lower case d in the heading after saving.

ANy advice?

Cracka79 01:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• You could use Special:Movepage/Emma_dean, and change the title to Emma Dean--VectorPotential^Talk 01:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Or...Create a new page by cutting the contents of Emma dean and placing it on Emma Dean, then place #REDIRECT [[Emma Dean]] on Emma dean and this article will automatically direct to Emma Dean. Scottydude 01:56, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Both are good ways to go about this, I like the second because if anyone visits the original article because of a typo they will be sent to the correct titled article. Scottydude 01:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Nooo, don't do that second way. Cut and paste moves are bad, they mess up the page history, which is actually a legal problem. Redirects are automatically created at the old title when a page is moved, so that is the way to go. Prodego ^talk 02:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• True, it's not recommended you do a copy/paste move as Prodego explained, however, in a case where you are the only person to have edited the article, you could copy/paste it without legal problems. I still don't recommend it, though. You might give other people the wrong idea about when it is admissible. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I apologize. Scottydude 16:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

A Hijacked Page

Hi,

I was doing research tonight, and was looking up information on the foreign exchange market. I went to this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_market

Oddly, I was quickly moved to this page:

http://www.lazoom.com/forex-trading/

I surfed back, but was soon shifted there again. Soon, I realized that any time my mouse pointer was over the page, it was a hand, and when I paused, I saw the URL for the other page there. In other words, someone has apparently made the entire page into a clickable link to that other page.

Since I am not a wikipedia author or editor, I don't know what to do about this. I'm sure that whoever receives this will know what to do about it.

192.150.115.150 02:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Ohh, clever. I'll go fix that, thanks! Prodego ^talk 02:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 02:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you beat me. But I got to fix one too. Prodego ^talk 02:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I fixed another one of these things on Forex Scam here: [5] -- _Hdt83 ^Chat 02:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Oddly that wasn't there when I checked a few minutes ago. Prodego ^talk 02:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... this should be sent to AN/I, I think... anyways, these are done either by a coordinated group of users, or open proxies, as WHOIS doesn't point to the same ISP. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 02:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Content box

how do I get the content box to appear in the article. the article for Pam Pinnock does not display a content box I have tried but can't get it to appear please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.155.166.212 (talk • contribs)

Can you be more specific? Maybe point to an article that contains this "content box" and describe what it looks like and how it functions in that article? Looking at the article's history, I see you have added, removed and added again a section header called "content" by typing ==content==. I am guessing you are looking for a particular template, and are trying to place it with section header markup.--Fuhghettaboutit 04:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The Table of Contents (TOC) will appear automatically when there are more than 3 headings in the article. The link I have given has instructions to force the TOC to appear.--Commander Keane 04:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay. Hiding in corner with dunce cap; Table of contents. Talk about being dense.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Room for two in that corner? I thought it was an infobox template query as well! Adrian M. H. 17:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

web search lead-in or summary is factually incorrect

Hello-- I am a professor at the Vaughn College of Aeronautics and Technology. I made a few editing changes and additions, mostly to the historical information at our school. The problem--the factual error--remains on the search request blurb listing for us under Wikipedia: It states that our former name was "College of Technology" when it was in fact the "College of Aeronautics". I don't know how to adjust the search blurb, although I have edited the page. Thank you for creating and managing this service, and for your attention to this detail.

Peter W. Bohn —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 160.39.238.111 (talk) 04:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Until earlier today, there were two separate articles Vaughn College of Aeronautics & Technology and Vaughn College of Aeronautics and Technology. The first one (with "&" rather than "and") now is just a pointer to the second one. You fixed the error was in the second one, not the first, however I assume Google's search blurb will be updated appropriately fairly soon. -- Rick Block (talk) 05:03, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:V and WP:A - Subject matter with poor quality reference material online: How to write an article?

I'm having some trouble making some changes/addition to the article on Roomba. Specifcally, I'm running into WP:V and WP:A issues. The only reliable source for information on the Roomba appears to be the manufacturer itself, iRobot. Most all other knowledge and experience is tied up in message forums, and to a lesser extent, self-published sources. Is it valid to lower the threshold on WP:V in cases like this, or is there some way to still write a decent article without striping anything from it that can't be referenced back to iRobot's own website for the Roomba? --Jmccorm 04:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

If no third party sources are available, such as press coverable, it raises questions about whether the subject can be notable enough for an article. There are however some things for which a self-published source is proper; for example information from a company's annual report. Some technical information may come into this category, though it raises the possibility that the article is too detailed. Notinasnaid 07:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

There are many sources: [6] --NE2 07:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

That's fine then, what's the problem? Notinasnaid 08:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean? To be blunt (apologies if I offend you, Jmccorm), it appears that the original poster forgot that newspapers exist. --NE2 09:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Right. I'm not talking about newspaper chit-chat and press releases. (Although I will spend some more time looking over the write-ups.) More observations by third parties, and real-world experience with the product itself. Example: "The Roomba Sage has the same cleaning power as the Discovery Scheduler." BTW, a second question. Is a detailed model comparison appropriate for the page? Would it be original research since it isn't anything but in a forum or self-published? --Jmccorm 14:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Information about my profile

Hi, I'd like to send you updated information about my profile as it appears on your Wikipedia site. Will you allow me to send you fuller information for you to post? What would you advise me to do. Thanks in advance for your kind help.

Sincerely, Tsidii Le Loka

I think this question is about Tsidii Le Loka. I suggest adding information to the talk page of the article (you can go to the article and click on the "discussion" tab to get there). Hopefully people at the Help desk will have more good ideas.--Commander Keane 06:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

See WP:CITE and WP:ATTRIBUTE. It's best if the information you want to add to Tsidii Le Loka already appears in reputable published sources. Often the most difficult part of writing for Wikipedia is finding such sources, so you can assist the other editors of the article by listing a good set of sources on the talk page of the article, or in the article itself if you are far enough along in editing to know how to do that. Since the talk page for the article had not yet started, I added {{Talkheader}} and {{WPBiography}} templates to it. Good luck, and welcome to Wikipedia. --Teratornis 16:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Remember that it is not your profile, but an encyclopædic article about you. See WP:COI. Adrian M. H. 17:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Questions about crime

1. What are the reason for committing juvenile delinquency (childhood crime) ? 2. What are the various ways of handling a juvenile delinquents ( child criminals) ? 3. In today's world, we always get tensed or stressed up quite easily. What are the various causes & effects of stress ? What effective measures can be taken to deal with stress? 4. What is physical education ? Explain its significance ?

• This seems to be an essay question. Sorry, Wikipedia does not do your homework, but it has many articles which may help you in your research. Notinasnaid 07:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Rss feeder

Is there any RSS feeder available for wikipedia site? -kgajanan

• See WP:RSS. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

product profile

what is the hisyory of hero honda? what are their product range? what are pricing of their product? recycling of waste? after sales service? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.17.75.203 (talk) 07:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Try asking at the Reference Desk - the Help Desk here is for questions about how to use Wikipedia, not concerning information. They will be better suited to assist you. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 12:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Agented CMBS

What is agented CMBS, RMBS??(mony) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Monymk (talk • contribs) 07:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

• No idea. But I do know this is a question better asked at the reference desk. This page is for questions about Wikipedia itself.- Mgm|^(talk) 07:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

DRVs

Are admins who closed a case allowed to vote a DRV for a page they deleted. Bowsy ^{(review me!)} 08:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

DRv isn't based purely on vote-count, so there's no real problem here. It's usual for the deleting admin to at least explain their actions in the deletion. Besides, it's not clear that disallowing their 'vote' would be a good idea even if it were a vote. Hope that helps! --ais523 08:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• Yes. Closing a case merely involves establishing the concensus. Sometimes it means making a judgement call. Neither has any bearing on their right to comment in a review case. DRV is meant to determine if the initial deletion was properly performed or if new evidence has surfaced (like new sources) that would warrant the article to be undeleted - Mgm|^(talk) 09:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

How do you ask for help?

In the article Rogers Television, there is somebody who keeps puffing Rogers, and removing all my contributions as "vandalism." However, I can provide links to back up everything I write, but I just can't figure out how to use your complicated arbitration request interface. Crowewiki 08:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Why is it impossible just to send a message to anybody here?????

To just send a message to someone, simply use their talk page. You just did ask for help, so you seem to have it sorted out. I observe that Talk:Rogers Television is extremely hard to read because there are many signatures missing. Someone (not clear who, because of the lack of signatures) needs to read Wikipedia:No personal attacks and more than one may need to read Wikipedia:Be civil. Above all, content disputes should be discussed and resolved on the talk page of the article. Continuing to edit and revert instead is not the right way to go about things.

There may be a simple way to get a third opinion if only two people are involved in the dispute. How many are involved? Notinasnaid 08:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I added a {{Talkheader}} template to the top of Talk:Rogers Television in a perhaps futile attempt to encourage those participants to learn how to format a talk page. --Teratornis 15:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

ie 7 offline navigation

hello, before installing ie 7, ikipedia's articles were available offline, now no more, even whit a lower protection level? Why? is a problem of my explorer or is a new feature of wikipedia, or is an attak on wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.35.34.184 (talk) 08:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Could the page I am working on be semiprotected?

Hi! Could you make the article about Cicero semiprotected? I have worked on it for two months. Every second or third day it is spoiled by vandals (today, for instance someone has substituted words like "mind" and "Latin" with "noob"), filled by threats or blanked with only a statement: "I am God". As Cicero is a historical person almost everybody has heard of in school, anonymous new persons feel they want to leave a mark of their existence there, i.e. "Killroy was here".

Not to speak about what they consider important/relevant for this article. Cicero happens to be an interesting philosopher, and his philosophical studies and works should be mentioned and dealt with.- These IP "guests" consider that philosophy is crap and wipe it out. And so on, and so on.....

An exasperated editor Tellervo 09:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• Done. Please ask at WP:RFPP in the future. I've protected for a week, please remove the template when the protection expires. If vandalism continues, just ask and I will extend the protection. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Forgot to sign

Hi,

I just entered some changes to the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law. I forgot to sign in before editing the page, so the change is not attributed to me (user degeldeg). Can this be fixed so the page history cites me, the page appears in my list of changed pages, etc.

Thanks, David

• Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit is no longer done. If you really feel it's important, make a small inviisble edit and make not of the older edit you made in the edit summary. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixing reference to me for unsigned change

(whoops, sending again, since I didn't follow the rules correctly a minute ago. Sorry!)

Hi,

I just entered some changes to the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law. I forgot to sign in before editing the page, so the change is not attributed to me (user degeldeg). Can this be fixed so the page history cites me, the page appears in my list of changed pages, etc.

Thanks, David

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk"

Degeldeg 09:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

There was a service changing attributions but it had been suspended. See Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit. Hope that helps. --Joshua Chiew 09:50, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Article on Diego Varas

I am speaking of behalf of Diego Varas as his website’s webmaster.

I was just recently made aware that the entry for "Diego Varas" in Wikipedia was removed from what it seems to be “copyright violation.” This could not be farther from the truth. When we were building the website, Diego pointed us to the information about him posted at Wikipedia, which had many typos and incongruencies with his actual experience. We soon realized that the content was pulled (with typos and all) from a bio written by a producer from one of his very early shows. With Diego on board, we slightly rewrote the content, fixed the typos and liked it so much that we then used the exact version for his website. After rewriting the content, we liked it enough to actually use the same information in his site. So believe us when we say, no “copyright violation” was taking place. Besides, there is nothing in the text that was removed that is untrue or poses any copyright harm to Diego, on the contrary. As the rising celebrity that he is and the public media precautions that one must take in his behalf, we found nothing wrong with the exposure of his entry at Wikipedia, it was honest and straightforward, with no publicity stunts or gimmicks.

Below is the text that you removed, please advice us to what we need to do so that it is reinstated.

Thank you so much,

Paul Elwood Webmaster www.Diegovaras.com

Born in Santiago, Chile, Diego Varas came to the U.S. at the tender age of nine. After living in Miami for a few years he eventually moved to Los Angeles where he made a career in voiceovers for several years. Soon, Varas was appearing in commercials for clothing lines, music videos, and modeled for Ralph Lauren and John Valdi.

Vara’s career in television took off when he was discovered at a Los Angeles night club at 17. The chance meeting gave Varas his first opportunity to get in front of the camera hosting “America Now” on KWHY, Channel 22 in Los Angeles. As the host Varas had the privilege of interviewing many celebrities including Arnold Schwarzenegger and Kobe Bryant.

After hosting “America Now”, Varas began hosting “Vip TV” on KWHY. His next big project was hosting Telemundo’s “Buena Onda”, a musical variety program where he interviewed celebrities like Paulina Rubio and Juanes.

In 1997 Varas was selected as one of the top 12 hot Latin Actors in “Sueños de Amor” and two years ago Varas hosted the Miss Latina USA Pageant 2004.

Varas’ most recent work includes hosting the Spanish music show “Studio 2” (KRCA) and co-hosting Sí TV’s talk show, “The Rub”, a candid, spirited, and often funny twist on the battle of the sexes.

Varas talent doesn’t end on camera; he has a passion for music and besides currently working on his solo album, as a songwriter he already has two songs out that are the main themes of commercials. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.17.137.100 (talk • contribs)

• To the person who deleted it, it looked like the article was copied from the website without permission. Try writing permissions (at) wikimedia (dot) org to explain. I would however consider rewriting. For example the last paragraph sounds a bit too promotional. Also, article on Wikipedia require sources other than the subject themself to determine they are notable. Try to avoid using Varas himself as a source wherever possible in the Wikipedia article. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Orphan images

Is there a tag that should be added to orphan images? Dismas|^(talk) 11:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

If they were put in under a fair use claim, yes, they should be tagged and removed fairly soon after. Orphaned fair use images are always in violation of fair use statements. Notinasnaid 11:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• If they're not fair use, try to add them to a relevant article or ask the uploader to do it, before deleting what can't be used. If they're free, consider moving unused images to the Wikimedia Commons. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, the image I am referring to is specifically this one. But what is the correct tag? {{orphan}} doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for. Dismas|^(talk) 11:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

That image has a fair use claim, so removal is necessary. Take a look at Category:Orphaned fairuse images for the procedure. Notinasnaid 11:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll take a look. Dismas|^(talk) 18:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

mediawiki

on a new install of mediawiki, what is the admin's password? 195.194.74.154 11:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• A better place to ask would be -->here<-- - Mgm|^(talk) 12:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The person who installs an instance of MediaWiki should run the config/index.php script (by browsing to it, see m:Help:Installation#Run the installation script). Among other things, the script presents these fields for that person to fill out:

Admin username:   [                     ]
Password:         [                     ] Must not be blank
Password confirm: [                     ]

An admin can lock/delete pages, block users from editing, and other
maintenance tasks.

What you need to do next depends on whether you installed MediaWiki, or someone else did. Also be aware there is another username/password combination in the LocalSettings.php file, to let MediaWiki access the underlying database: $wgDBuser and $wgDBpassword. It's easy to confuse the wiki administrator account with the database account. --Teratornis 15:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

logging in

I am having trouble logging in. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 169.244.94.54 (talk) 12:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

• What sort of trouble? Notinasnaid 14:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Images

I would create a new article. How do I get images into my article. Upload? How? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomas-evl (talk • contribs)

Welcome. Please see WP:IMAGE. Xiner (talk, email) 13:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Sexual assault information

Hello,

I run a sexual assault program for survivors and decided to see what Wikipedia had as an entry for sexual assault. It became painfully apparent that there is a major issue missing: sexual assault advocates. There is mention of aftercare in the form of medical attention or psychological aftercare, but in every state in the U.S., there are rape crisis centers with trained advocates...many of whom maintain confidentiality and first responders are mandated to inform the survivor of his or her right to an advocate. People often overlook this because they assume that medical attention is first and foremost, and the advocacy, support, information, and crisis intervention a trained advocate offers becomes marginalized. This role is crucial to sexual assault aftercare for a survivor. Rape crisis centers, now called "sexual assault support services", often assists survivors for weeks, months, and years after an assault, whereas interventions in the form of law enforcement and medical attention are for a much shorter period of time, sometimes one encounter. These interventions are important, but advocacy is just as important and is worth mentioning, especially if a survivor is looking for this information for him or herself or a friend or loved one.

Additionally, the explanation of victim-blaming and debunking widely held beliefs about how to avoid sexual assault was very good. However, by listing many of the pieces of advice people give to avoid sexual assault almost overshadows the remainder of the entry about how those are not true and the importance of how that contributes to victim-blaming.

Thanks for your time! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.115.160.82 (talk) 14:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Wikipedia is not an advice center or a sexual assault treatment link database. Victims should not be looking on Wikipedia for this sort of advice. If this information needs to be added, it needs sources and notability to back it up, we don't add information here because it would be useful. You may want to post more specifically the sort of thing you want added, as well as the change on debunking, on the talk pages of the article(s) in question. -Wooty Woot? contribs 17:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually we do add lots of useful information to Wikipedia (I doubt the goal is for Wikipedia to be utterly useless), but usefulness alone is not sufficient for inclusion here. Given that the questioner speaks of this subject using jargon I have heard before, he or she very likely picked up this jargon from a standard literature. Which means there should be plenty of reputable sources to cite. The sexual assault article has some improperly formatted citations (such as: "Greenfeld, 1997") which need someone to edit them properly with <ref> tags and {{cite}} templates. I would encourage the original questioner to study some of the better articles on Wikipedia (see: WP:GA and WP:FA), and try to bring the sexual assault article up to that standard. It ought to be possible, given the extensive literature on the topic. If the original questioner wants to write a procedural article for victims of sexual assault to follow (I hesitate to hop on the euphemism treadmill and describe a class of people who normally survive as "survivors" - I'd rather stick to the historical usage of the term "survivor" as pertaining to someone who survived something with a high fatality rate, and crime victims are normally called "victims," as in "murder victim," "robbery victim", "libel victim," etc. - we couldn't very well say "murder survivors," after all), he or she might try wikiHow. --Teratornis 19:24, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

How

How do you "re-evaluate" an article's status/class? DTD_(speak)

Be bold and just change the parameters on the article's talk page, near the top of the page. "Show preview" to make sure you're doing it correctly. Xiner (talk, email) 14:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! DTD_(speak)

?

Can you make a Keep/Delete comment on your own AfD (as in, some one is attempting to delete your page)? DTD_(speak)

Yes, but be aware of the arguments to avoid in deletion debates. Just voting keep will likely lead to the vote being ignored. And for the record, the nomination you're talking about is an MfD. --Deskana (talk) 15:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Category size

Is there a simple way to see how many articles are in a given category? $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 15:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah just type into your search bar Category:insert category here and it will list all of the articles which have been categories into here. Hope this helps, and for more info you can see Wikipedia:Category.Tellyaddict 16:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'm talking about catageories with more than 200 pages -- right now it only (and always) says "There are 200 pages in this section of the category," "this section" probably referring to the first page of the category page. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 16:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that you would need to count all the pages to do it that way, which is obviously undesirable. If you use WP:AWB, it can tell you. I'm not sure of other methods which may be available. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 16:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

A non-simple method would be to download a Wikipedia database dump and write MySQL queries to count the category links. I was surprised to see no mention of determining the size of large categories in Wikipedia:Categorization FAQ. Someone might mention the need for that in Wikipedia talk:Categorization FAQ. --Teratornis 18:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Go to Special:Categories, add "&offset=" to the end of the URL, then paste in the category name, without Category:, then hit enter. For example, to find the number of pages in the (huge) Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica, you'd add &offset=Wikipedia_articles (underscores sometimes necessary but never hurt), giving something like http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Categories&offset=Wikipedia_articles and it would take you to roughly the right place in the very, very, very long list. The answer here is 12,748. What a kludge! Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Excellent; thanks much. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 00:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

?

How do you create a link from a picture (in other words, if I wanted a picture to link to, say, my user page, how would I do that?) Agooba?Che.

See {{Click}}. — Darkest Hour 16:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually imagemap should be used over {{click}} whenever possible. Prodego ^talk 19:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Lowering

What part of this code needs to be altered to move the "₪" down a bit so it does not conflict with the project page, user page and the like links? — Darkest Hour 22:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Gallery

Does the gallery tag take on more variables? I'd like to make the one at infared spectroscopy look better. Is there a way to make the pictures span horizontally in one line? --HappyCamper 16:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

like how? You can drop the images into a frame then add a table and arrange them however you want.

Example

{|
|[[Image:Symmetrical stretching.gif|thumb|symmetrical stretching]]
|[[Image:Asymmetrical_stretching.gif|thumb|asymmetrical stretching]]
|[[Image:Scissoring.gif|thumb|scissoring]]
|-
|[[Image:Rocking.gif|thumb|rocking]]
|[[Image:Wagging.gif|thumb|wagging]]
|[[Image:Twisting.gif|thumb|twisting]]
|}

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darkest Hour (talk • contribs) 16:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

-- Darkest Hour 16:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! This was very helpful! --HappyCamper 16:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Nonsense

Would a nonsense page be elligible for deletion if it were a user's sandbox? Aerghrwhia;gorhgaira;gwieurapoweoharioahoghoiw

Probably so, as nonsense can't be related to the project. -Wooty Woot? contribs 17:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• So, how do I nominate it for deletion? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Da.Tomato.Dude (talk • contribs) 17:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

• WP:MfD#How to list pages for deletion -Wooty Woot? contribs 17:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• I'm not so sure I agree with the notion that subpages should be subject to deletion just because they're nonsensical, lot's of new users use subpages to test formatting etc.. that's not necessarily criteria for deletion. For instance, if I were to create User:VectorP/l and add the text "tewtewtwetijetijetijetijeitj" to it, I'd hope that no one would care enough to nominate if for deletion--VectorPotential^Talk 17:42, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

SEARCH PROBLEM

Hi- We created a new page for E News Personality Jason Kennedy, but when we search the name "Jason Kennedy" a soccer player named Jason Kennedy is the only link that comes up. Is there any way to get both names to appear in the search and not just the soccer players? Any help you could give us would be much appreciated. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.46.6.69 (talk) 17:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Your article is new and the search index can sometimes take some time to catch up. Give it a few days and see if that helps. Also, you may want to consider a disambiguation page, check out WP:DAB. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 18:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Somebody has already added a disambiguation link for you on the footballer's page. I have added a reciprocal link on the TV personality's page.--Vbd (talk) 21:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Re nominating for deletion

Are you allowed to re nominate articles for deletion without a WP:DRV? If not, then this and this should be closed immediately. Henchman 2000 17:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

This was asked recently. I think that the answer was in the positive, but you should indicate that it is a second nomination. Search the archived questions for the last few days and you should find it. Adrian M. H. 18:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you are. — Malcolm^{Use the schwartz!} 20:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

IN the LMP3mgs nomination, there is no 2nd nomination and a previous AfD existed by that exact name. Should anything be done about this? Henchman 2000 14:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Links to local sports clubs

I'm a relative newbie, having edited only since Christmas, so would welcome some guidance on this matter. What is WP policy on mentioning local sports clubs by name in articles on towns or regions? One editor working on Mendip Hills unlinked a (named) local gliding club, leaving a link to gliding as a sport in the text & relegating the club to the External Links section. Is this the generally approved method; or is it sometimes acceptable to include an EL to a specific (non-profit members') club in the text of the article?

I should add that in this case there is only one gliding club in the Mendips, so there's no issue of competition between clubs. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 18:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Was it notable? Is it ever likely to get its own article? If not, why link to it? Red links can be used to encourage new articles (or so goes the theory) but you still need to bear in mind whether the subject actually warrants an article. Adrian M. H. 18:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I've now had a look at WP:NOTE, & have a rough idea of what this criterion means. But I'm still not quite sure what to do in the specific case I was discussing (& others like it). In Mendip Hills#Sport, leisure and tourism it seems reasonable to mention gliding, along with other pursuits such as caving & climbing. So is your recommendation to mention the sport, & possibly the location where it takes place, but not the name of the club? And can a link to the club website be included under External links? Or should I limit myself to linking to the WP article Gliding? If so, it's hard to see what justification I would have for even asserting that gliding takes place in this area; whereas a link to the club website would (I imagine) at least demonstrate that it does. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 21:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

My suggestion is to do just that: mention gliding in the article, but leave the particular club to an external link, and further link to Gliding. It solves the issue of notability while contributing, albeit in a limited fashion, to two articles. SkipperClipper 02:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks: that makes sense to me, & I shall act accordingly. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 09:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I think that's a reasonable suggestion. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:21, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Bad faith

What exactly is a bad faith AFD nomination? Bowsy ^{(review me!)} 18:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• Just as an example, suppose someone created an AfD for the Bill Clinton article, citing WP:ATT as a justification, *that* would be a bad faith nomination--VectorPotential^Talk 18:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
• (edit conflict)A nomination intended to make a WP:POINT or disruption/vandalism through AfD would be in bad faith. --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 18:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Not that this necessarily applies here, but the terms "good faith" and "bad faith" (as used in professional contexts, contracts, law) is almost always subject to the particular facts and circumstances and the specific parties involved. After Midnight and VectorP both provide helpful general examples, case-by-case review is probably also a factor to consider. dr.ef.tymac 18:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Such instances can be the result of genuinely misinterpreting a policy, which could be considered to indicate that the policy might need clarification. The consensus system should save any major injustices anyway. Adrian M. H. 18:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Example: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mario. — Malcolm^{Use the schwartz!} 20:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Someone recently nominated Keanu Reeves and several other actors for deletion citing lack of notability as their nomination reason. A cursory glance of the relevant notability pages shows that this clearly isn't a good move. Doing it once might be a mistake. Doing a mass nomination as your only edit is probably bad faith. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

blue links

Mono01 18:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)mono01 this mono01 how do you remove the blue links on most of these pages. thank you.

....what?? Adrian M. H. 18:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Mono01, those blue links are generally considered to be helpful and good. There is the rare odd case where the blue links are bad, but before you remove any be sure to click on this blue link: Wikipedia:Manual of style This explains which blue links are good, and which blue links are bad. -Haikon 18:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

University of North Florida Edit

I edited the UNF page with new info on how their business school made the Princeton Review list of top 282 business schools. I was just seeing if this is okay and if it has any problems could you clean it up. Here is the site I got the information from.

http://www.unf.edu/coggin/news/newsletter/2006-fall/01_PrincetonReview.htm

Thanks

Sincerely,

Ryan MotourRmontour 18:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. :) María: (habla conmigo) 19:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Image?

Is it okay to put this image on my userpage? Image:Many types of cheeses.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mousey.Mouse (talk • contribs) 18:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Should be fine, since it's an appropriately licensed image from Wikipedia Commons, which doesn't accept fair use images that would be restricted from userpages. -- nae'blis 19:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

how do i change the title of a page?

i work for the 'indian film festival of los angeles' and when i search for it, wikipedia directs me to 'los angeles indian film festival' - which is not the correct title.

how can i change the official title to 'indian film festival of los angeles' and have other incorrect versions such as 'los angeles indian film festival' directed to it?

please help.

thanks a bunch of grapes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pchaplot (talk • contribs) 18:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

What you're looking for is the "move" tab at the top of the page. If you've had your account for at least 3-4 days, you will be able to move the article to the correct title. This will also set up a redirect at the old title to direct people to the new title. Dismas|^(talk) 19:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I see that you haven't had your account long enough to move articles so I've moved it for you. See Indian Film Festival of Los Angeles. Dismas|^(talk) 19:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

omg, you're fantastic. thank you molto molto!

MEDICAL RECORDS

I AM ATTEMPTING A REQUEST FOR ALL MY MEDICAL RECORDS. REASON, CHANGE OF PHYSICIANS. HOW DO I GETT CONSENT FORMS FOR MYSELF

TAKING CARE OF MYSELF

ALEXIS —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.221.138.227 (talk) 20:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Xiner (talk, email) 20:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, you might want to switch off the CAPS LOCK, or they might think you're not asking a serious question ( : VectorPotential^Talk 20:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd agree to look at Reference Desk.Furthermore, have you contacted your insurance agent, current physician's office, or new physician's office?SkipperClipper 02:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

To make a long story short...

I put this: .allpagesredirect a { color:#00FF00 } in my monobook.css and went to abraham lincoln and the redirects did not change color. whats wacked out with this? — Darkest Hour 20:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Translation

Hi!

I want to translate article "Bosco Adventure" into croatian, but I don't know how to do it.

Thanks!

Do you know Croatian? ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 22:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

how do i cite this source on a woks cited page24.12.101.12 22:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Try this ˉˉ^anetode╦╩ 22:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Template: #if: etc. controls

Can someone please direct me to page dicussing how to use #if:. I am trying to edit a template that has it. Also is there #else and #elseif etc? I tried to search but could not find a page that helps me use them, thanks.--Dacium 22:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I seem to have found it at : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions#.23if: --Dacium 22:24, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that is the extension which enables those constructs to work. Special:Version shows the extensions installed on any MediaWiki wiki. You may be interested to know that you can link to the Meta-Wiki site more compactly using an interwiki link, like this: m:ParserFunctions#.23if:, although evidently that's best to do only on talk pages and user pages rather than in article pages, because in articles it seems to constitute a self-reference. --Teratornis 14:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you do when you find a new member who...

What do you do when you find a new member who has only contributed vandalism?

Thanks, Ncix 23:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Warn them, and if they don't stop vandalizing, report them to WP:AIV. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 23:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Post the "warn them" template into there talk page? Should I sign it as well? Ncix 00:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Just as you should any message on talk pages, with rare exceptions. Xiner (talk, email) 02:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Pop up boxes

I am trying to get the two pop up boxes off the article so that it looks better and reads better. It states right now that the article does not have links or reference sources. Can you help? I want to make the article look better so that it can be read. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.155.166.212 (talk • contribs).

The question is about Pam Pinnock. -- Rick Block (talk) 23:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

What pop up boxes are you referring to? The two boxes at the top of that page? If so, both seem warranted. You can delte the coding to delte them, but I trust they would simply return until the concerns they mention are adequately addressed. SkipperClipper 03:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The questioner probably refers to the templates: {{unlinked}} and {{unreferenced}}. To demonstrate the need for the former, see Special:Whatlinkshere/Pam Pinnock; the only links to Pam Pinnock are from its talk page, and the Help desk. The article needs links from other articles. As for {{unreferenced}}, the article cites no sources. See WP:CITE and WP:ATTRIBUTE to learn how to fix this. The article needs editing as well; there are some errors of spacing, punctuation, and letter case. The wording is a bit peacock-y in spots. Nothing fatal, just needs some cleaning. --Teratornis 08:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

March 30

Barack Obama's mother's first name

Her first name is Shirley NOT Stanley as the article states; it's Shirley Ann Dunham. Tried to edit but no place to preview or change--Tkn34 00:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. The article is currently semi-protected, which is why you can't edit it - your account needs to be a few days old. The mistake seems to be due to this Chicago Tribune article, which says Stanley, probably due to a mix-up with Barack Obama's grandfather. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 00:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It looks like the error snuck into this revision. Interesting. --Teratornis 00:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• She may actually have been named after her grandfather. This is clearly a case where there's multiple sources for both sides of the story. I've asked someone to tell me why they believe one source over the other. Obviously one of them slipped up and it isn't neccesarily the one we think did it. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

  Apparently her name is actually Stanley Ann after her father, because her parents wanted a boy so much. The article now has this detail in a footnote. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 12:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Surely (not Shirley :) ) he names her in one of his books? Corvus cornix 20:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Impartial Admins

Please someone take a look at my talk page and MDS International. I am being stomped on by an admin. 01:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by WizardOfWor (talk • contribs). - Corvus cornix 01:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

You violated our copyright rules and our 3RR policy. What makes you think you are being stomped on? If you have a problem, take it to Dispute resolution Corvus cornix 01:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Anna Anderson

I added some information and tried to cite it. Please fix the citations. They are not working. ~Gatorgirl623~ 02:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Experiment, as its the best way to learn! Follow the instructions on Citing sources, Contents #3. If you can't get it to work out, come back!SkipperClipper 02:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• I've fixed the typos in the citation code and I left Gatorgirl a note on her talk page. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Note to ~Gatorgirl623~: you may get faster help in the future by looking up your changes in the article history, and including a link to a diff showing your exact changes, like this. That lets your helpers see exactly what you are talking about, without making each one of them hunt for it. --Teratornis 14:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Deleting search box entries

How can I delete an entry that keeps popping up in the search box ? 12.218.228.106 02:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

This question also keeps popping up. Read some old answers here. The fix will depend on what Web browser you use. --Teratornis 07:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

topic deletion

I see that the topic about the Letterheads (group) is scheduled for deletion. This is a real group of people and the article is accurate. How can this article be saved? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ampstudio (talk • contribs) 03:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Being real is not a criterion for inclusion. Please see WP:BAND and WP:N. -Wooty Woot? contribs 03:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

images.

How can I be able to put an image on a page? 04:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at WP:IMAGE. -SpuriousQ (talk) 04:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

You must be logged in to set user preferences

Wikipedia keeps logging me out. I get the following message

"You must be logged in to set user preferences."

I've tried using IE 6.0 and Firefox. I've tried deleting all Internet temp files. I've tried deleting cookies. But Wikipedia keeps signing me out.

Is this a known problem? Is there anything I can do?

Thanks,

Scott see —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.19.14.34 (talk) 05:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Mhh, have you tried bypassing your browsers cache by clicking Control and F5 at the same time (this is for windows)? this should work, and if it doesn't follow up and I'll see what I can do. Thanks - Tellyaddict 08:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• Did you try the "remember me" button? If that doesn't work you can try accessing Wikipedia through https://en.wikipedia.org (note the 's'). It's slower but should keep you logged in. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding old publicity photo of dead person to article.

I would like to add an old publicity photo of a dead person to an article, but I can't figure out how to tag it on the upload page, or what I should select from the pull-down menu for licensing. For the record: the subject of the photograph gave me a copy of it before they died; they do not remember who took it (this was back in the 1930s). Is such a photo considered to be in the public domain? I appreciate any guidance someone can give me. Thank you! Tented 09:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tented (talk • contribs) 09:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

• No, the exact year for something to be considered public domain in the US is either 1923 or 1924 and even then there's exceptions with works that continue to be copyrighted by the photographers' surviving relatives. Since it's unlikely for someone else to make a photograph under a free license since this person is death, you can however make a good fair use claim. Try using {{fairusein}} or {{promophoto}} in combination with a fair use rationale as described in the text of those templates. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• And just to add something else which catches many people out: possessing a picture (photo or painting) doesn't give you any automatic rights, not even if it's a picture of you, not even if you have all copies and a negative. Copyright stays with the creator, unless they specifically give or sell that to you as well. Notinasnaid 10:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject CVGs

Who founded Wikiproject Computer and Video Games? Bowsy ^{(review me!)} 10:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Use the history page for the project, or ask on its talk page. Notinasnaid 10:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

DRV Endorsing

In a DRV are you supposed to Endorse or Overturn based solely upon the closing admin's conduct or handling of the discussion, or are you supposed to Endorse just because you said Delete in the article's AFD? Bowsy ^{(review me!)} 10:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• DRV decisisions can be based on closing admin conduct, new information about the subject that weren't available at the time of deletion or the revelation the decision was influenced by sockpuppet votes. If you argued to delete in the original AFD, you are perfectly allowed to change your mind later on. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Overseas citizens of india - buying of property

I am looking for RBI rules and regulations for investing into property in india? \≠ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 57.73.26.225 (talk) 11:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Xiner (talk, email) 13:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Rick Elice

Two questions

Someone created a page about Broadway writer Rick Elice. I added information published in the Jersey Boys Playbill. How do I attribute the source? Herbphilly 11:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The title of the Rick Elice page is incorrect and I don't know how to edit it. It should be spelled "Elice" with one "L" Herbphilly 11:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

For attribution, see Wikipedia:Citing sources. To fix the page name, use the "move" tab to move the page to the correct name. Help:Moving a page has the grisly details. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Dissallow Turnitin with robots.txt ?

Where is the correct place to open a discussion about preventing Turnitin from spidering wikipedia? They are currently allowed en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt. Is this sort of policy decided on consensus? Leafyplant 12:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if consensus of the community can overturn that, or if Turnitin respects robot.txt, or the like. WP:VPR, with a link to the discussion in WP:VPT, would probably be best. Gracenotes^T § 14:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

You can request changes to robots.txt at mediazilla: (the developers' bug and feature request tracker). Discussing on VPT first might quite possibly be a good idea. --ais523 14:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

And why would you want to stop Turnitin from spidering here? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 19:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Peter Sarafinyuk

I am currently helping correct links to Runner, a disambiguation page. Now, one of the pages that linked to this is Peter Sarafinyuk. I noticed that it said "Laura is awesome" at the end, and tried to revert it. It doesn't look like it was added in any of the edits to the article. It doesn't show up when I edit the page either. What is going on? --LuigiManiac 12:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism of Template:Ukraine-athletics-bio-stub (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). "Invisible" vandalism, stuff you can see on screen but can't find in the article edit window, usually comes from a template. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I thought it would be something like that, but I'm not used to templates, and was close to finishing off repairing links to Runner (which I have since completed), so I didn't check it out. Quite sneaky. --LuigiManiac 14:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

HELP

If a user is blocked, and creates a new account, would this be considered "illegal"?

Yes, in a way. Block evasion is a blockable offense. PTO 14:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It depends on why they were blocked. If they were banned, then yes (PTO, you're thinking of ban evasion rather than block evasion). If they were blocked for their username, then probably no. If you look in a user's block log, it will say whether the user's been blocked from creating an account or not, which should make it clear. Hope that helps! --ais523 14:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It also depends on whether the block has expired, I believe. If it has not, then creating a new user account is evasion. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Rename my article I created

I want to rename my page i created how do u do dat? Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =] 14:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

See WP:RENAME. The instructions are there for how to rename your account. --LuigiManiac 14:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

To rename an article, make a request at requested moves or the assistance Village Pump if your account is less than 4 days old, or you'll get a 'move' tab at the top of the page to rename it yourself if your account is older. --ais523 14:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. I thought you said rename your account. --LuigiManiac 14:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

lol thankies =] Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =] 03:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Can I see what articles a specific user has created?

Apart from just looking at every edit in someone's special contributions, is there a way to see just the articles they have created. Especially if they alter the edit summary, so it no longer has the default "Created page with, etc" message? Didn't new articles used to have an n next to them in the contributions history? Crazysuit 15:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

For recently-created articles, Special:Newpages can be filtered by the user who created the article. Otherwise, I don't think you can. --ais523 15:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

That seems to go back a month, but I was hoping to check longer than that. Special:Newpages is interesting, I didn't realise there's so much crap being added to Wikipedia, the first three new articles I looked at were vandalism so I just added speedy tags to them. It must be a full time job keeping that stuff out. Crazysuit 16:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Indeed it is. :) -Wooty Woot? contribs 18:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

This is why it's good to have a list of significant contributions on userpages, but a lot of people don't include it. Adrian M. H. 18:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow the last comment, but in response to previous ones, there are roughly 4,000 articles added per day, and roughly 2,000 articles deleted per day. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Quick reminder on policy

Can somebody quickly remind me of Wikipedia's policy on user's removing vandalism warnings from their talk pages? Is this allowed?↔NMajdan•talk 15:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but it's discouraged. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 15:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

So if a user has three warnings and then deletes them, how would another user know to give them a 4th warning without going into the history first? Doesn't make sense.↔NMajdan•talk

That's why I've been placing the template names as my edit summary when warning people. Xiner (talk, email) 15:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

That definitely makes sense. Thank you.↔NMajdan•talk 15:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I also give the warning level in all caps like "LEVEL 2 warning" Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 15:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, the template names already include the warning level (eg vandalism1, test2). Xiner (talk, email) 16:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

User NMajdan is creatin innapropriate warnings on my talk page. How do I delete this and report him for abuse? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trigam41 (talk • contribs)

I see you have already removed the warnings, which can be seen here. Which warning do you consider to be incorrect. You (or someone using your account)certainly removed things from List of University of Oklahoma alumni, here.

Perhaps this was an accident for which you could simply apologise and move on.

Maybe there has been some other misunderstanding. In any case, where you think a warning is not called for, the first thing to do is to ask politely which edit is meant, and which Wikipedia policy or guideline you have broken. The first thing is not to immediately accuse everyone of abuse, which just gets everybody cross. Idontthinkso 16:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• I consider removing warnings acceptable if the person removing them doesn't continue to engage in the behavior that got them warned. It's better to archive them and show you've read them and taken them to heart. Removing them so they're only available from the history looks like you're trying to hide something and that's not a good idea. -Mgm|^(talk) 19:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
  • So if a user has three warnings and then deletes them, how would another user know to give them a 4th warning without going into the history first? - Well, you should be looking at the user contributions page, because if the user is doing a lot of vandalism, or is a vandalism-only account, you should report the user at WP:AIV, rather than (or in addition to) posting a warning. Plus you want to check the user contributions page to see if there is other unreverted vandalism that you can fix.
  • While you're looking at user contributions, you should also look at whether the user has edited his/her own user talk page. If so, check the diffs - that will show if he/she is removing warnings. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Plagarism?

From this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Rock_&_Roll_Ensemble

I noticed this sentence:

"Released in 1971, Roll Over was their most overtly rock album to date and, at that time, their biggest seller, although they fell well short of Led Zeppelin on the Billboard charts."

Compare with this sentence from Alllmusic Guide (allmusic.com) in the biography for The New York Rock and Roll Ensemble:

"Released in 1971, Roll Over was their most overtly rock album to date and their biggest seller, although they fell well short of Led Zeppelin on the Billboard charts."

But otherwise the texts do not seem to be so similar. Is this plagarism? 130.64.37.206 17:21, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

See Plagiarism and its associated links for more info. Adrian M. H. 18:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• One similar sentence isn't plagiarism, but if it worries you, you can rewrite it, it doesn't sound like the sentence flows all that well anyway. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• Even if a single sentence isn't considered plagiarism in the copyright sense, it would have been courteous to cite AMG as a source for that sentence. It's almost a verbatim copy. I would also be very suspicious of the other content in that article. -SpuriousQ (talk) 19:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Part of my edits are cut off when I Preview; doesn't seem to be for the usual reasons

I've read the help text about what usually causes this, and I don't think I'm doing anything wrong with links or tags. The Preview window cuts off my edits, but not always at the same point. It's always at a point right below a change I made, though. I don't Save the page, of course, when this happens. So I've edited and previewed the same text several times, to no avail.

I thought I might be able to work around this by using an External Editor, but this doesn't seem to work either. The file that is saved for me to edit has only a couple of lines of text in it--not the whole section I'm trying to edit.Glenn Ellen Starr Stilling 19:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• Which browser are you using? Firefox users have reported this problem in the past. AndyJones 19:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm using Firefox (Mac version). Thanks for the information; I'll try it using a different browser. Glenn Ellen Starr Stilling 19:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you have the Google Toolbar installed? That caused some issues with certain versions of Firefox. (It is fixed in the current version.) Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 19:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• I tried editing using Safari and had no problems at all. Thanks, Andy! I'm really impressed with, and appreciative of, these fast responses. Could have saved myself a lot of time by posting here sooner. I do prefer Firefox, though, and I do have Google Toolbar installed. I'll see if I have the most recent version of the Toolbar. I thought I'd be prompted to update Toolbar when new versions were available, though. Glenn Ellen Starr Stilling 19:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't... the problem is documented at Bug 5643. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 19:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Can I upload a photo

greetings,

My name is robert west, and I am a web site designer at fx2dream. I recently recieved content for a site I am building. In my research I found wikipedia's article on "Coke Escovedo" a percussionist.

Two questions: Can I upload a photo to that article?

Coke's name was mentioned in the biography of my client. How much editing should I do? Would it be better to just link to the content on my site or should I take the pertinent sentences and try to add them to the article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fx2dream (talk • contribs) 19:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Since you are a registered user, you can upload images yourself. Click on this link and follow the directions. Make sure any image you upload is in the public domain or is filed under a free license. If you have to upload a copyrighted image, make sure you read Wikipedia's policies at WP:Fair use to be sure you are allowed to use the image and where.

You're welcome to edit any of Wikipedia's page, but if you do add more information to a biography, please make sure it fits within our policies, including looking at things from a neutral point of view, establishing sufficient notability, adding only verifiable content (for example, not including any original research) and citing your sources. Let us know if you have any more questions, and if you need help fast, place a {{helpme}} template on your talk page and explain your problem. Thanks! Hersfold ^(talk/work) 20:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

If you have a freely licensed photo, usable by anyone subject to a suitable license, that would be welcome: it would need a photographer release with the license. If you have suggestions for changes to content or suggestions for a link, the best way to do this is to suggest them on the article's talk page. Notinasnaid 22:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Lat/Long Coordinates

Is there a way to keep the Lat/Long coordinates from overlapping in Monkton, Vermont? The second set of coor's is more accurate than the first but the first provides a bunch of links. Dismas|^(talk) 19:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

The way you had it, no. I replaced the second set of coordinates with a more basic {{coor dms}} template that allows the more accurate coordinates to be displayed in the article, while keeping the links displayed below. That should work better, I think. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 20:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Where to post feature requests

Theres an idea i hope that will be implemented that i posted in the technical pump [7] . Where else can i post it so that i get some response? -- ^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 19:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Most likely, that'll be it. The Tech pump is occasionally rather busy, and they might not be able to get to your idea straightaway. If it doesn't get a response for a while, just post it again so it stays fresh. I'm sure someone will respond eventually. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 20:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, that's wrong. Your idea is probably fine on the tech pump, but it may be a long time until a developer or Wikimedia staff member reads it, if ever. You should definitely submit your idea to bugzilla, as developers will read that page and you'll get some response there. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 20:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

how do i upload an image in wikipedia

hi, im just wondering, where can i upload images in wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sir de wario (talk • contribs) 20:05, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Since you are a registered user, you can upload images yourself. Click on this link and follow the directions. Make sure any image you upload is in the public domain or is filed under a free license. If you have to upload a copyrighted image, make sure you read Wikipedia's policies at WP:Fair use to be sure you are allowed to use the image and where. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 20:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Lakeside School

The article on Lakeside School (Seattle) has been vandalized again. I removed the offensive language, and agree with an earlier poster about the need to lock this page to prevent further vandalism.

Thank you,

John Newsom Director of Technology Lakeside School

John.newsom 20:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

You may request page protection at WP:RFPP. However, this article won't be accepted because it has seen few acts of vandalism. I'm afraid someone will just have to watchlist it and revert when necessary. It's the price we pay for being a website that anyone can edit. Xiner (talk, email) 20:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

However, it was vandalised by 70.103.85.128. That is the IP address used by you, and indicates someone in the school. In particular circumstances, where there are sufficient vandals among your students, it's possible to put a block on that IP address for up to (I seem to recall) six months. Notinasnaid 20:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Note too that if it was semi-protected, you would not be able (as an anonymous, not logged in, editor) to correct vandalism by students who go to the trouble of registering. Notinasnaid 20:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Forgot password

What should i do???? i lost my password. TWICE!

71.63.7.235 21:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

If you registered an e-mail address (and you really should have done) then click the link on the log-in screen and wait for the e-mail. Otherwise, you are out of luck, I think. Adrian M. H. 21:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Yup, there isn't any way other than email to regain access to a user account; otherwise, you're going to have to register again. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Editing large articles

A couple of times I've run across this problem: I try to make a (minor) edit on a long article; the edit window comes up w/ warning at the top, e.g. "This page is 31 kilobytes long.". When I try & insert text I hear my computer's audio "error" sound, & the browser jumps to the bottom of the page w/o making the edit. Most recently this happened while trying to add a wikilink in Witold_Lutosławski.

Is this just a deficiency in my browser? I'm working via Internet Explorer 5.1 on Mac OS 9. (I know, I'm living in the stone age, but it works ok for most stuff.) Thanks. --Turangalila (talk) 21:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, I've experienced the same issues with Internet Explorer 5.x on a Mac. Older browsers don't allow more than a certain amount of text in an edit box. Editing in this case could lead to you cutting up articles past the point of what fits in the box on your system. I suggest you try upgrading to IE 6. I've lived in the stone age too and on Windows 98 IE6 never caused me any problems. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

See: WP:SS#Size and WP:SIZE#Which browsers have problems with long articles?. --Teratornis 22:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I've copied this over to my talk page, since this page gives my browser trouble too (sigh) --Turangalila (talk) 06:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Uploading Image

I have created an article on a scientific magazine for which I have done a magazine information box in the right hand corner. I would like to include an image in that information box of an old magazine cover. I work for the magazine and have permission to use the image on wikipedia. How do I go about uploading the image and then how am I able to add it to the magazine information box. The page is titled, Cosmetics & Toiletries. Thank you for your help. Kschaef121 21:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• Do you have a full release for the image, for use for any purpose by anyone, including commercially, subject only to credit? That's essentially what's needed: release under a specific license. Notinasnaid 22:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Here is some guidance: Help:Images and other uploaded files and Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. Also, there is a specialized place to ask questions of this type: Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Need help fixing an image link

Hello! I found a broken image link in the article "Sling (weapon)". There used to be a detail photo from a tapestry, partway down the page. That same image still exists in the German wikipedia, in the article about Goliath (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_%28Bibel%29). The link in the English article refers to "Image:David_gegen_Goliath.jpg"; the link in the German article refers to "Image:David_gegen_Goliath2.jpg". Looks like someone updated the image and changed the name by appending the digit "2". There is an image with the latter name in the Commons (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:David_gegen_goliath2.jpg), but I do not know how to link to the Commons. Can you tell me how to do this? Thanks! — SWWright^Talk 22:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Images at Commons are linked just as if they were images at any of the Wikipedias (the software looks for a local image by the indicated name and if one is not found automatically looks at Commons). -- Rick Block (talk) 22:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

AHA! I had tried just adding a "2" to the filename "David_gegen_Goliath.jpg", but the new filename is actually "David_gegen_goliath2.jpg" (the "g" is NOT capitalized). Therefore it did not work. When I typed it in correctly, the link worked. All fixed now. Thanks! — SWWright^Talk 23:13, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

El Categorie (note: this question has been moved from the talk page)

I know that I'm probably asking the wrong questions at the wrong place, but I have major difficulties with editing the main page (technical issues on my side).

My questions are:

1. How do I create a new category? Do I simply type Category:Blah on some page?
2. How do I create sub-categories? You know, the ones with the plus signs?
3. How do I edit the category page to display a note before showing its members?
4. What's the issue with redundant categorisation (where a page is under a category and a sub-category)?

Actually, if there's some manual which answers these questions then I won't mind if you just point me to that.

Thank you. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 08:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Some replies

1. Yes, putting a page in a category creates the category. Consider first the effect on the members; categories are constantly being deleted because articles are in too many categories, and an endless list at the end is considered undesirable.
2. Put the subcategory into the parent category and it happens.
3. When you are looking at the category listing, list click Edit in the normal way. What you see is a mixture of a normal editable page and the members of the category.
4. It's generally frowed upon, and if editors find something in both a category and a parent, they will remove it from the parent. One reason is that it adds still more to category bloat (long lists in articles). Another is that it makes the categories themselves too long. It also is pointless and confusing for people trying to navigate around the heirarchy of categories. Notinasnaid 10:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. That's perfect. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 11:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

March 31

You Tube

I have noticed a number of pages where a You Tube address showing a video has been used as a link to verify something on that page. For instance, some Football Suppoters Groups have used videos of them at stadiums to verify that their particular Fan Group exists. Surely to verify something a reliable source is not a video on You Tube? Thank you Tangerines 00:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Using YouTube as a citation isn't a good idea, what with copyright infringement and all--$UIT 01:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd say it really depends on what you're using the clip for. As SUIT mentioned, a lot of youtube videos have issues with copyright and would probably fall under links to avoid. Also, if you're using a youtube video as a reference to just prove a group exists then the topic probably has issues with notability; it's no different than using a band's MySpace page as a reference for someone's local band. Barring that, there's nothing wrong with youtube videos per se. And even if the clip is of a copyrighted work, I'd say there's an argument for fair use if the clip in question is for academic purpose. For example, using a small clip of 9/11 news footage to illustrate how the WTC collapsed. —Mitaphane _?|! 02:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies. It was more to do with a You Tube video of some fans chanting and singing at a football (soccer) ground, being used as the sole source to verify that a specific fans group exists. To me that just seems a very weak verification. Especially when other Fans groups have websites. Thanks again though! Tangerines 03:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• That's not a verification at all. I can drum up a bunch of friends to chant and sing about purple oranges, but that doesn't verify they exist. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Please Help with Log In Problems That Just Started

As I type my question to my problem, Wikipedia again has me logged out even though I just signed in. I have not had this problem until about a week ago. When I try to log in it shows me logged in until I go to another Wikipedia page. I click on an article I want to help edit and I am suddenly not signed in. I go to sign in and click the link that takes me back to the article I was previously in, only to find out that once I get back to that page it has me again logged out. When I try to edit an article anyway, only my IP gets logged and I am viewed as a non-registered user. Because of this now I have gotten blamed for several other people's vandelising of articles that I have never visited nor tried to edit. I would appreciate Wikipedia helping me find out why I am no longer able to stay logged in on the system. Help is greatly appreciated. Thank you. 67.142.130.27 01:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC) Purpleparrot (Purpleparrot is my Wikipedia name)

Who is your ISP? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 01:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

It sounds almost as though your browser is no longer storing cookies the way it is supposed to. Try checking to make sure:

If you use Firefox, go to Tools -> Options... -> Privacy. Make sure that Firefox is accepting cookies from sites and keeping them until they expire or until Firefox is closed. Then click on Exceptions and make sure en.wikipedia.org hasn't been accidentally blacklisted.

If you use IE 7, go to Tools -> Internet Options -> Privacy. Click on the Advanced button and make sure the following settings are checked:

1. Override automatic cookie handling should be checked.
2. First-party cookies should be accepted.
3. Always allow session cookies should be checked.

IE might then start shouting at you about high-risk security settings - if this is the case, ignore it or switch to Firefox.

Hope this has helped. If not, good luck with fixing the problem, I've no idea what else could be causing it. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 02:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

You are using Hughes Net according to whois. It is a problem with them, but if you use the (slightly slower) secure server, you can log in and edit normally. Prodego ^talk 03:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

monobook.js

I have been trying desperately to add some features to my wikipedian experence by editing my monobook.js file. The code I am currently trying to load on the page is:
importScript('User:Lupin/popups.js'); importScript('User:AzaToth/morebits.js'); importScript('User:AzaToth/twinklefluff.js'); importScript('Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Add LI menu'); importStylesheet('Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Add LI menu/css'); importScript('User:AzaToth/twinklewarn.js'); importScript('User:AzaToth/twinklearv.js'); importScript('User:AzaToth/twinklespeedy.js'); importScript('User:AzaToth/twinklediff.js'); importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkleprotect.js'); importScript('User:Lupin/recent2.js');
Whatever I do doesn't seem to work however. What could I posibly be doing wrong? Redian(Talk) 02:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Did you do that "bypass your browser's cache" thing?--$UIT 02:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict} Are you bypassing the cache after saving? On Internet Explorer, its Ctrl+F5. Also try adding ?action=purge to the end of the URL of your monobook.js page after saving and then reload the page. Also, I think stylesheets go in your monobook.css. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 03:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

importStylesheet would stay in your .js file; it's a javascript function. —Mitaphane _?|! 03:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes I bypassed the cache, and I tried the action=purge. It made it all show up as script instead of text, but I still don't see the 5 new things I should have in my toolbox from the "importScript('User:Lupin/recent2.js');" Am I not looking in the right spot? Right below the search vox on the left hand column? Redian(Talk) 03:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

You may want to try on WP:VPT. A response may be slower but someone there will definitely know what they are talking about and can provide more help than "bypass your cache." Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 03:17, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

What probably has happened is that the scripts have overlapped, and probably invalidated each other. I would suggest either choosing twinkle or lupin's tools and popups, just to be safe. I have never seen an instance where two anti-vandal scripts part of two separate packages have cooperated with each other. Gracenotes^T § 04:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Contacting former Missionaries

Dear Friends:

I am wondering who and how to contact someone who can give me information about missionaries from Sweden who served in Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) under Bishop Strandvik during 1963-1965.

I taught secondary school there during that time at the Chegato Mission Station.

Now I am retired as a bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada and I would like to contact my friends from that time who are still living.

Thank you very much for whatever help you can give me.

+ Allan Grundahl (<email removed to prevent spam>) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.47.246.184 (talk) 06:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for your question, but this page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. The Wikipedia:Reference desk (which is for factual questions) may be able to help you more, but this sort of question doesn't really fit into their criteria. Maybe you could try contacting the Mission Station, any Sweedish organisation involved or the church Bishop Strandvik was part of to see if they may be able to point you in the right direction. Hope that helps, mattbr 12:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

How do remove the template protection in one's page?

Hi,

I accidentally inserted the following protection tag twice (see below)

As such, my page is currently displaying the above template protection banners twice.

Pse see affected page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoo_Kheng-Hor

How do i resolve remove this protection?

A speedy reply is appreciated

Thanks!

Aldwinteo 10:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Done Scottydude 11:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

And please don't use those tags if the article isn't protected in the first place. x42bn6 Talk 12:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• If you accidentally inserted this template, simply remove it. It's only protected when an administrator actually applies the protection. The template just exists to inform other users of this status. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

#expr:

Hello! I'm relatively new around here so i may have overlooked something obvious. If so i apologise, but i have tried Help and the VFAQ. In the article Julian day use is made of a {{#expr: ..}} calculation. Could somebody please point me towards the documentation of this construction? In particular, what operations are available? -- 博 11:48, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

See m:ParserFunctions on m:meta, which describes all the parser functions available. Hope that helps, mattbr 12:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

That does seem to be what i am looking for. Thank you! -- 博 14:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Request one's account for closure?

I'd like to request that someone's account closes. What's the page for this? --Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

You want someone's account blocked? Is that what you mean? Adrian M. H. 13:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, indefinitely, but isn't there a wikipedia page to request this? --Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 13:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

It would help if you told us what the problem is. Vandalism, disruption, or another issue? Adrian M. H. 13:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Mostly insubordination. This user (I will call anonymous) is really frustrating to deal with. One of my Wiki-friends spent the better part of last summer working on bus related NYCT articles. He was working for transit, and I spent a lot of time looking around and taking pictures for the articles. He never really told people that. Then along came "anonymous". This character went through and systematically removed my contributions, as well as his. He even accused him of becoming upset.

This anonymous character is unreasonable, completely heartless, and excuse me for my language, but a total s*** bag. Sorry, buy I can't put it any other way. He needs to be brought down to his place. Rest assured, something should be done about him. --Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm, sounds like a pain in the butt, granted. AGF aside, if his edits can be demonstrated to be unreasonable and not done in good faith, then you have cause for complaint. The timeline may or may not be an issue, if it happened last year. WP:AN is your first visit; from there, you should find what you need. If not, contact an experienced admin directly and ask for their advice. Adrian M. H. 14:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Requests for administrator attention may be useful, too. Adrian M. H. 14:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

(←) What action I would recommend really depends on the circumstances of the case, which I cannot really determine from your comments. If the user is conversing with you and you have a dispute, you may wish to have a look at Wikipedia:Resolving disputes and working through one or some of the processes there. If you believe that the user has clearly and consistently violated policy in a manner which would require admin attention, go to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Accounts are only blocked in line with the Wikipedia:Blocking policy, which you might also find helpful to read, as people are not blocked for 'being annoying' unless thay have clearly and repeatedly violated policy. Please remember to be civil with no personal attacks at all times or you may find people reluctant to help you or you may be blocked yourself. I hope that helps, mattbr 14:39, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Editing Question: How to intert into existing text when existing won't appear for me until I save changes.

editing Question -- how do I insert text into article ... as in adding a sentence. What now shows for me is a blank window like an email window that does not show the eixting article for me to type in my new text at the end of the exixting article. I use a Mac. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.107.99.114 (talk) 15:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

Use the 'edit this page' tab at the top of the page, rather than the other edit links that may be available, to edit the whole article (other links might edit just a section or add a new section, depending on context). --ais523 15:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

WP

hw can i put myself on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.141.62 (talk • contribs)

Please see WP:NOT, WP:COI, WP:V, WP:N, among other pages, first. Xiner (talk, email) 15:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Please don't. Experience has shown us that while people know a lot about themselves, they're not the right people to create the article about themselves. Wait until someone else does it and go to the article's discussion page to suggest additions or changes. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

posting?

how do you post a message for someone else or can you? 71.63.7.235 15:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Click on that person's username, click "discussion" on top of that page to go to that person's user talk page, and click the "+" sign on top to create a new section. Xiner (talk, email) 15:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

PHYLLIS REARDON---ESTEE LAUDER 'S FIRSTT MODEL

Hi! This is Lu (Lucille Connor (Oliver), Phyl Connor Reardon's older sister by fough years. You have a pic and a few words about Phyl and ask for more. Who better to write them than her older sister?

See WP:COI. Adrian M. H. 15:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank-You

are you allowed to say thank-you to someone who answers your question at the help desk? if you can, how?Athena is hott 15:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome to do that. To ensure that they see it, go to their talk page. Adrian M. H. 15:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Of course you are. The instructions at the top of the page even say a polite thank you is very much appreciated. (see WP:TALK if you want to follow the previous advice)- Mgm|^(talk) 22:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

delete

how do you know your user page wont be deleted?

A user's userpage is highly unlikely to be deleted for no reason; administrators are only allowed to delete pages when there is a reason, so as long as you remain within the userpage guidelines you should be fine. Except in really obvious cases, the deletion of a userpage is likely to be discussed at MfD before any action is taken. Hope that helps! --ais523 15:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding a page

Can I add a pag about a Nintendo fan site? MattC13 16:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Check the criteria for notability and see also Help:Starting a new page. Adrian M. H. 16:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Keep in mind POV when creating or adding to a page. A fan site may be acceptable, but it should be verifiable, and not from a persons own experience. SkipperClipper 21:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Depending on its content, a fansite may be a useful external link in a Nintendo related article, but unless it's the biggest of its kind or repeatedly mentioned in the press, I would recommend against creating an article about it. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Lower case letters in first letter

How come it's now possible to have an article beginning with a lower case letter? Of course, I'm very pleased about this, but what changed recently in order for this to happen? CoolGuy 16:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

All articles still start with uppercase letters. However, there's now some script running which means that if you put {{lowercase}} on a page, it changes the title to appear lowercase (if you check the URL or history of IPod, for instance, you'll see that the article still has an uppercase first letter). --ais523 16:32, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't notice the URL before, but I'm glad that the text shows the capitalization correctly. Thanks, CoolGuy 04:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

links

how do you remove the blue links on every page24.92.195.252 17:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Why do you want to? Prodego ^talk 17:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

If you don't want a certain text to be linked, just remove the [[ and ]] from the text. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 18:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Someone (probably you?) asked this recently. Why do you want to remove links that - for the most part - should be there? If articles had no links to other related articles, they would all be effectively isolated from each other. Adrian M. H. 18:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Opening external Links in a new window

Sorry to bother you. I just want to know what the code is for opening an external link in a new window; I have looked around the help but could not find the answer. Hope you can help me. Thank you.
Tra1946 17:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

There's no way to code a wikilink so that it opens in a new window by default; I think this is deliberate, because such choices should be made by the user clicking on the link rather than by the person who adds the link. --ais523 17:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

If a user wishes the external link to be opened in a new window, they can do so by right-clicking mouse key themselves. AQu01rius (User &#149; Talk) 17:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Check your internet browser's settings. Often times there's a box to check in the "preferences" or "options" of most browsers as to what should happen when you click on a link. SkipperClipper 21:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

PHYLLIS CONNOR REARDON---first Estee Lauder model

Hi!

You have a pic and a few lines about PHYLISS CONNOR REARDON, Estee Lauder's first mofel and you ask for more. As her older (by four years) sister, I'm the one who could fill you in and I'd love to, if you'll just tell me how I do it. Many thanks, Lu (Lucille Connor Oliver)

I'm not sure what article you saw that content in. There is no article at Phyliss Connor Reardon or Phyllis Connor Reardon , and I don't see any mention in Estée Lauder Companies. You can edit any article by clicking on "edit this page" or one of the section "edit" links to edit a single section only. DES ^(talk) 17:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Please read Help:Starting a new page or Wikipedia:How to edit a page as applicable. Then take note of WP:NOR, WP:V and WP:NPOV. WP:BLP and WP:COI may also apply. Adrian M. H. 18:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Help Formatting my Signature

I attempting to have my signature have three components:

• a link to my user page through my name, normal color
• a superscript "T" linking to my talk page, green
• a link to my watchlist survey through the word "Survey!", in orange and bold.

This is what I have so far:

• --[[user:ybbor|Ybbor]]^{<font color="green">[[User Talk:Ybbor|T]]}</font> '''<font color="orange">[[User:Ybbor/Watchlist Survey|Survey!]]</font>'''.
• Which compiles as:" --Ybbor^T Survey!".
• the tildes conjugate as --Ybbor^{<font color="green">T}</font> <font color="orange">Survey!</font> 18:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• 'My preferences' returns: "Invalid raw signature; check HTML tags." (Yes, I have the "raw signature" box checked.

Any help would be appreciated :). (Artificial Signature --> Ybbor18:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC))

Try closing the font formatting before the superscript. You need to use the tags like parenthesis in math. Something like this

--[[user:ybbor|Ybbor]]^{<font color="green">[[User Talk:Ybbor|T]]</font>}'''<font color="orange">[[User:Ybbor/Watchlist Survey|Survey!]]</font>'''

Works when I try it

--Ybbor^TSurvey! 19:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Hope that helps (Artificial Signature --> snowolfD4^{( talk / @ )} 19:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC) :)

Perfect! Thanks for the help :) --Ybbor^TSurvey! 19:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Uploading a Picture

I am looking to upload a picture from a school website of a school for use on an article about the school. The website has no mention of copyright information. This is the page: http://www.shufsd.org/schools/wwhs/Admin/admina.html Can I upload the image of the school on the page to wikimedia commons, or is there something specialo I must do? Redian(Talk) 20:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

You may not use Commons. If copyright isn't mentioned, it's assumed it's All Rights Reserved. Computerjoe's talk 20:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there anyway I can upload the picture? Redian(Talk) 20:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• In this particular case uploading to Wikipedia is not an option either. It's easy for someone in the area to take a camera and make a photograph that is released under a free license. This means that any image uploaded could possibly be tagged as "replaceable fair use image". If you want an image of the school, I suggest you contact a Wikipedian in that area and ask them to help you out. Alternatively, you can try to contact the webmaster of the school to find the photographer to ask them to release the image you found under a free license. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there a suitable flag for articles that are conspiracy theory-ridden?

I've found an article The Shiva Star space weapon that seems to have been written by a conspiracy theorist of some sort - it's definitely in violation of WP:NPOV, and I was wondering if I just flag it for a re-write of if there's a template for "This article is in need of a tinfoil hat removal" that should be applied. Mysticaloctopus 20:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• {{POV}} and {{Cleanup-rewrite}} would be good places to start. --Ybbor^TSurvey! 20:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Instead of tagging it, try to see if this POV was recently introduced. If it is, you can revert to the clean version in the edit history. Alternatively, you can remove the POV-material yourself and leave a stub (of course with a descriptive edit summary). - Mgm|^(talk) 22:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

network

For the purpose of forwarding packts,which protocol manages communication between routers regarding available routers?

a. DNS b. ICMP c. RIP d. ARP e. CDP f. STP —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gehadhanna (talk • contribs) 21:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here's the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. mattbr 21:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Rename account

trying to remane my acct but can't find the place to paste the following:

CURRENT.USERNAME → NEW.USERNAME

• Current name: CURRENT.USERNAME (talk • contribs)
• Requested name: NEW.USERNAME (change username)
• Reason: Reason for requested

renaming. Danmcatee 21:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

You need to follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username to make such a request. mattbr 21:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Anachronauts (band)

This morning I created an entry for the musical band known as Anachronauts. This afternoon I discovered it had been marked for a notability issue. Now, the reason I created this article was because the band Anachronauts had been referenced on Wikipedia in several other articles, however, the links in those articles were directed to an article on the Marvel comics supervillain team also called Anachronauts. Obviously that was in error. I thought that fixing the links and adding an article for the band known as Anachronauts would be appropriate, especially considering its previous references. I tried looking at the notability information to add whatever is required, but it's really not any help. From what I got out of it, a band is only worthy of being in Wikipedia if it had a deal with a major record label or topped the charts. Considering the other bands listed on Wikipedia that are on the same level as Anachronauts, I'm doubting that's the case.

How do I go about adding nobility? There is no website for the band (though I did a search and the domain name "anachronauts.com" is registered by a person of the same name as the lead singer of the band. I myself have loads of Anachronauts albums on CD, LP, and audiocassette, as well as flyers, posters, and mailers for past performances (I collect such things). I don't remember if I have any news clippings that mention the band, and if you search "Anachronauts Baton Rouge" you do get hits on the band as well as music stores that carry a couple of their split albums, but no shiny little web site or major record deal.

I really do want to keep this article up, but how can I use the references I have? Thank you.Ivytheplant 21:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Sources need to be reliable and verifiable. It is not beyond possibility that some of Wikipieda's "band" articles fail notability requirements; there are probably many such articles throughout Wikipedia, some of which get put through AfD, while others escape notice. In the case of your article, I would also suggest a re-write and significant expansion to raise its standard and improve its chances. Adrian M. H. 21:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, but how should I rewrite it? It's been ten years since I wrote anything that required references and sources, but that was dry technical scientific papers. This is obviously something completely different. How do I reference something that doesn't have loads of information all over the web, but apparently is considered notable enough to be referenced by wikipedia? And how long do I have before the article gets deleted? It might take some time to get sources that, while I know exist, aren't online. Ivytheplant 21:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• A minor record deal will suffice too if the label isn't your common vanity garage band label. The criteria for bands are at WP:MUSIC. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Anachronauts was represented by Eerie Materials, which not only already has a wiki entry, but was representative of several well-known bands like Man or Astroman? and Negativeland (both which have entries themselves). Not a garage band label. Would adding an external link to the label's website be enough? Again, how long do I have before the article is deleted? Ivytheplant 22:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

See WP:CITE for how to cite sources. I'm not sure how long your article will survive on Wikipedia; the rules are not applied consistently here, since everything depends on editors who randomly happen upon an article and decide to invoke this or that rule. However, your fears of deletion are realistic; Wikipedia deletes vast numbers of articles, possibly more than any other wiki. That's why, for many topic areas, interested people set up their own wikis. See List of wikis, Wikipedia:Alternative outlets, and search WikiIndex. WikiIndex shows several music-oriented wikis, for example Music-Web. I expect at least one of these wikis would be much more hospitable than Wikipedia to articles about marginal bands. You can develop your article on a "safe haven" wiki in addition to Wikipedia. If the copy on Wikipedia gets deleted, you can continue to develop the article on the music-oriented wiki, and try it again on Wikipedia if you (and others) get it into encyclopedic shape there. One more thing: try contacting the band and ask them if they keep press clippings and so on. One would hope that someone in or near the band is keeping a file of such press coverage as the band may have received. If there isn't any press coverage of the band, you might try contacting reporters to see if any would consider writing about the band. --Teratornis 22:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Guide to writing better articles is all pretty standard stuff, but it's a good place to start when looking for guidance. Adrian M. H. 22:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, Teratornis. I'm starting to consider that. This band was fairly well known in the 1990's, especially in Louisiana and Ohio. It's hardly in the same tier as someone who puts their music on Myspace, but I guess Wikipedia likes picking and choosing who to pick on next (seeing as how other bands under the Anachronaut's record label have their own entries that have been up for quite some time, it's kind of ironic that this one isn't considered a "real" band). Since wikipedia's default is considering this band as nothing more than a group of kids with a synthesier, maybe someone should erase every other reference to it on this site. For consistency, of course.

I have a collection of press releases and have been in contact with the band members as well as people who attended live performances. There's also websites (including the record label) that sell the two albums they were featured on (some with reviews). However, like I said, most of this information is offline. And unless the world has forgotten, not all credible info is online.

I really wish someone would answer my question: How long do I have until Wikipedia deletes my article? 24 hours? 48 hours? A week? I need time to gather the offline sources. I'm starting to think few people at wikipedia have ever actually researched a topic without the help of the internet before. Next time I'll try to use my magic mind powers to make the wealth of offline references magically appear on National Geographic's web page or something. Ivytheplant 23:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

You don't have anything to worry about right now as far as page deletion goes. There are a lot of editors that patrol newly created pages to filter out a lot of junk: pages about goofy thing people make up, insignificant garage bands, pets, drinking games, and so forth. Unfortunately, a lot of good intentioned articles articles also get caught up in this filter. An editor patroling newly created pages, has seen your page and marked it with a notability template, presumably because it hasn't asserted importance (said what makes the album significant in the world of music).

This doesn't mean the article is going to be deleted soon. It just means an editor has concern that this band might have problems with notability. As significant as that sounds, notability is a guideline not policy; the article won't be deleted right away. However, notability is an issue that means there is concern with finding sources and that any work made on the topic might fall into original research, wikipedia-speak for a someone's own personal analysis (as opposed to a summarized, referenced thoughts, from well known sources).

To come to a short answer: There really isn't a timeline because it just depends when someone makes the effort to delete your article. As a rule of thumb, I'd say you'd have around a week or so before some puts the article up for deletion. In the meantime, put the article on your watchlist and start looking for sources. Good luck on your article. —Mitaphane _?|! 00:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

To address some more points by Ivytheplant:

• There is no problem with offline information; in fact, it may be more credible than online information, because once printed it does not change. See WP:CITE, WP:FOOT, and WP:VERIFY.
• Wikipedia is a vast community of (mostly) part-time volunteers, each one with an imperfect and unavoidably idiosyncratic grasp of Wikipedia's staggeringly complex policies and guidelines. How many people do you suppose have read and properly understood every page linked from User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia? My guess: zero.
• Editing on Wikipedia is not for the faint of heart; it's similar to any other type of social interaction that carries a high risk of rejection, such as asking random strangers to go out on a date with you, applying for a job, door-to-door selling, or starting a musical group. The right attitude is to view setbacks as opportunities to learn and improve, rather than as personal insults.
  • One way to bolster oneself for activities that carry a high risk of rejection is spread one's risk. If you already have a job, and you are not starving, it's not so devastating to be rejected when you apply for a better job. Similarly, if you edit several articles on several wikis, you won't be as upset when a few of them get hacked up or deleted. It also helps to make many small edits to many existing articles, rather than creating a few articles entirely on your own. When you create entire articles yourself, it's hard to avoid feeling like you own them, and that feeling is not consistent with reality, because you can't own articles on this wiki.
  • The right mindset to have with high-risk activities is to view them as experiments. Try not to expect any particular outcome. You're just trying things and seeing what happens. Stay loose and go with the flow.
• Wikipedia's core policies are: WP:VERIFY, WP:NOR, and WP:NPOV. As I understand it (not that anyone else would necessarily agree with me), notability is merely a means to the end of verifiability. That is, we require topics to be notable simply because notable topics are more likely to be verifiable. However, there seem to be lots of editors on Wikipedia who treat notability as if it is a core policy, that is, as if notability is a value in and of itself. Personally, I reject that notion; I would like Wikipedia to be as comprehensive as possible, i.e., I would like Wikipedia to contain everything which is verifiable, so when I want information on something, I can get my first introduction on Wikipedia. I don't think any article should be deleted solely on the basis of notability, but obviously thousands of editors here disagree with that. It seems a lot of people want to restrict Wikipedia to the Microsofts of the world, which is strange considering Wikipedia's humble origin.
  • My prediction (you read it here first, I bet): the notability requirement leads to another problem that will become painfully evident with the rise of the geographic wiki. Real soon now, Wikipedia will be generally available on GPS-enabled mobile computing devices. When you walk around somewhere with your portable Wikipedia, you will naturally want to read Wikipedia articles about the stuff around you - and in most parts of the world, most of the stuff around you is not notable. Therefore, to make Wikipedia generally relevant to GPS-enabled users, Wikipedia will need articles about most geographically-fixed objects. I expect the concept of notability to undergo substantial revision in response to the coming demand for locally relevant content. Either Wikipedia will find ways to verify more topics that aren't notable, or Wikipedia will improve its coordination with other wikis that aren't as hung up on notability as some sort of a value in itself.

--Teratornis 13:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

reposting article that was deleted...

I am relisting my website because it is TheHamptons.com that I am adding to "The Hamptons" page in Wikipedia - it helped a lot of the organizations on our site and it was all done free of charge and it continues to drive traffic to their respective sites since we are #1 on Google for search term "the hamptons" and also have been there since 1995!!! I consider it part of the hamptons history on the internet as it is mostly cultural in content. I don't see in the edit history where someone says why or who deleted it so I am reposting it. I hope that's ok...I am a reliable source b/c I built the site and have copyright to ALL the content on it. A lot of it is archival by nature and I have left it up for that purpose since so many people value the art on it and come back to it.

thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by LiziObolensky (talk • contribs)

Unfortunately, personal knowledge is not considered a reliable source. It needs to be verifiable by everyone. Also, writing articles about where you work and things you did is strongly discouraged by the conflict of interest guideline. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 21:41, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Are you trying to republish an article (as your title suggests) or just reinserting an external link into an existing article? Regarding the edit history, the editor should have included a descriptive summary (too many people seem to think it unnecessary), but you can still check the diffs if you wish. However, assuming good faith, I would expect that the editor in question had good reason to deem your link unsuitable and/or extraneous. In which case, you would be better off submitting it to the article's talk page for review rather than add it yourself. Other editors can then make a decision based on policy. If you are referring to an article, see the above response. Adrian M. H. 21:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

It refers to this edit to The Hamptons. PrimeHunter 22:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup templates

Why are the dates in the cleanup templates done as optional parameters? Wouldn't it work to just use: [[Category:Cleanup from {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}]] and: This page has been tagged since {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}? Or am I missing something obvious? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

You could use [[Category:Cleanup from {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}]] if you're adding just the category. However, creating a template with [[Category:Cleanup from {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}]] in it wouldn't work because as soon as you saved the template it would evaluate the subst. Something like this might be possible with parser functions, I'm not sure. For more information on subst, go here —Mitaphane _?|! 00:20, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

You can go {{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>CURRENTMONTHNAME}}, etc., but that only works if the template is substed when added to the article (and cleanup templates usually aren't). --ais523 10:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Title of Article need Capitalizing...

Hi, I was working on the Coffee Bean Bears page, and noticed that the title of the page is not capitalized, but there is no way for me to fix this. Can you fix it so that the first letter of each of the words in the title are capitalized? It currently reads: Coffee bean bears - but should read: Coffee Bean Bears. Thanks for any help you can give.

Unless your account is new, you can use the Move tab. See WP:MOVE for info. If your account is too new, or you are an anon editor, let us know. Don't forget to sign your comments. Adrian M. H. 22:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I've performed the move for you. --Ybbor^TSurvey! 23:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Next steps?

Re: Dame Edna Treatment. I found this while reviewing recent changes and added tags for notability and sources, then commented on the creator's talk page to give him the opportunity to improve it. He has since blanked the page (I have not bothered to revert it, given the content). Is it a candidate for speedy deletion? Adrian M. H. 22:32, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Found the answer, I think. WP:CSD#G7 Adrian M. H. 22:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

April 1 (WARNING: April Fools' Day)

Image problems..

Howdy, I can't seem to get an image to upload correctly. It's just your standard jpeg.. I've uploaded a few other photos here before without incident. The filename is not a duplicate. After I upload it, it states that it uploaded correctly, but then won't display the picture, only the red x in the upper corner. Any suggestions?Ryet0 00:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

What Image? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 23:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

-Metcalfeswiki.jpgRyet0 00:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm checking it out and its giving me:

'The image “http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/Metcalfeswiki.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.' Perhaps it wasn't completed uploaded or the image is corrupted? Can you view the image without problems on locally on your computer? —Mitaphane _?|! 23:51, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

No problems opening it on my computer. Hmmm...Ryet0 00:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Fixed it. Thanks for the help. Ryet0 00:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Userbox Situation

Hello Wikipedians,

I have a proposal to make conserning the Userbox issues. I did not know where to propose it, so I am placing it here. Since Userboxes are used by everyone, I do not think they should be put in User Spaces, per the userbox migration policy. Also, the template location does not work well, because they are not really templates. What I propose is to make a different section of Wikipedia for them. We have the template section for templates, wikipedia things are in the wikipedia section, user spaces are in the user section. I believe userboxes would be well organized and more easily used in a section called "Userboxes"; thus, in order to go to a userbox you would put in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Userbox:{{{Userbox Name}}}. Having them in both the Template section and the User section is a bit confusing and not well organized. Also, this would work well with the different kinds of templates. All different types are cluttering the Template section. There are over 50000 in the template section. I believe the ones that are for inside articles (such as ones showing other related articles and showing detailed information on the chemical or animal that the article is about) should be moved to new sections, rather than confusing the sections with all kinds of templates. What do you think? If someone can find a better place for this proposal, go ahead and move or copy it to the desired location. SadanYagci 23:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

We don't need to set up a new namespace for something that has nothing to do with the project. But if you really want to propose it, Village pump would be a better place. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 00:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Leaving Wikipedia

Hi. Is it possible to have all my edits reverted, now that I've decided to leave Wikipedia? Thanks. Xiner (talk, email) 00:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

No. First because you licensed them all under the GFDL, and second because you're obviously pranking us. --tjstrf talk 00:08, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Better go be desysoped. Prodego ^talk 00:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Xiner's talk page is cool! Xiner (talk, email) 01:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Hamilton Bulldogs Listing is Incorrect

For the Hamilton Bulldogs Hockey Club, Wikipedia incorrectly has two listings

Hamilton Bulldogs (1996-2002) Hamilton Bulldogs (2002-Current)

These should be consolodated, while 'affiliation' changed in 2002, the club has continued to exist as one franchise (same name, location, team mamangement, etc...) for 11 consecutive years. The 1996-2002 listing is the more accurate of the two, but the 2002-current statistics should be added.

Many teams have had affiliation/ownership changes - but the "organization" does not and should not have two separate representations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chesterfield99 (talk • contribs)

I've placed merge tags on Hamilton Bulldogs and Hamilton Bulldogs (1996-2002). 151.202.74.135 00:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

See WP:MERGE for info. Adrian M. H. 13:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

template for converting imperial (american) measurements to metric??

is there a template that converts metric units to imperial (american) and vice versa? it would be particularly useful, for example in athletes infoboxes for height and weight.--Macca7174 00:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

For height and weight, {{height}} and {{weight}} work. -Amarkov moo! 01:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

wikipedia article

There are serious factual errors in the article Wikipedia. I don't think a single fact mentioned in it is correct. The so-called "sources" are completely ludicrous. The entire article should be removed immeadiately. It is a disgrace to the organization. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 01:13, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree completely. The whole site, in fact, is riddled with inaccuracies. Just look at the Main Page, it says George Washington was a coffee maker! Preposterous!

Seriously, though... this is why I'm taking a wikibreak. Hersfold ^(talk/work) 01:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I've deleted the article. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Xiner (talk, email) 02:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Vassar College

Dear Wikipedia,

Although the article for "Vassar College" is very well written, you will noticed that the College's logo does not come up, just an empty box. When you click on that box, though, the correct logo does seem to be uploaded to the website. Can you fix this?

Thank you!

~ Brian Farkas (email redacted)

More information on this bug: I'm getting the image but also seeing code from the image specific section of {{Infobox_University}} displaying around the logo (it says [[image: on one side of the logo and |center|200x200px|]] on the other). You might try reporting this at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) but it may just fix itself.--Fuhghettaboutit 03:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

• The image code appeared because the coding is partly included in the template. All you need to add is the file name. Why it won't appear when you add it like you should is beyond me and a case for the technical village pump. -= Mgm|^(talk) 08:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
• The template had an unused image size parameter. It's fixed now. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Page creation

how do i make a page about someone or something — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nauslar (talk • contribs)

See the list of very frequently asked questions. Dismas|^(talk) 05:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

And/or see Help:Starting a new page for technical help getting started. Also, be sure to read Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Attribution for guidance on the substance of the page you want to contribute.--Vbd (talk) 11:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

procedure for copyright suspicions

I've been through this before, but can't remember what I did: How do I report an image that is suspected of being a copyright violation? (The image lacks source information; the uploader has been contacted twice, once on February 2 and once on February 10.) Thanks, Ibn Battuta 08:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

You can follow the directions for images at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. -SpuriousQ (talk) 08:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

AFP copyright permissions and restrictions

I have requested a permission statement from AFP for specific permission although inclusion of the following notice may be sufficient: AFP copyright non-commercial use restriction. Since only commercial use appears restricted how do I document permission in the tag on the upload page? Nebraska bob 10:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Non-commercial images and images with permission for use on Wikipedia are not permitted and can be deleted under speedy deletion criterion I3 as content can be used for commercial purposes by people/organisations other than Wikipedia. If and only if the image meets the fair use criteria, it can be uploaded under fair use. mattbr 10:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Multiple contribs

This editor (203.135.4.85) has made several changes to the article Mianwali, without any explanation. They seemed not right to me, but I am probably wrong. I was not sure how to approach, warn or revert or to leave it alone. Any help would be appreciated. eddie 11:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know anything about the subject, and the changes aren't obviously wrong. You could try contacting the user on User talk:203.135.4.85 and asking what they're doing (try to be polite and try not to scare them). Most anons don't use the edit summary box. --ais523 11:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks very much. eddie 11:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm certain this is vandalism, but haven't reverted the earlier edits. Xiner (talk, a promise) 14:01, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Page name changes

I have created an article about a Cambodian temple whose name can be rendered in more than one way in Roman script. I want to change the page name to reflect a more common spelling than the one I used. How do I change the page name?

Writer128 11:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Moving a page. mattbr 11:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

• You might also want to read Wikipedia:Redirect to created redirects for the other common spellings to make it easier to find. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm looking for Logos

I am doing a worksheet about Logos , and there are six logos altogether . I have already found four , and I'm desperate to find the other two . Is it possible that I can see all the pictures of Logos and see which is the one I want ? I need to give the full name of the organization that is using that particular Logo , and I haven't a single clue to what is related to those two Logos ! 219.75.69.207 13:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Xiner (talk, a promise) 13:56, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

How can I spot FAKE mail from Wikipedia vs. GENUINE mail from you?

I just received this message from wiki@wikimedia.org, but I am not sure whether it is a hoax or whether it is your office that sent it to me. Please advise. Thanks.

Subject: New temporary password for Wikipedia Date: 4/1/2007 9:16:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: wiki@wikimedia.org

Someone from the IP address 221.xxx.xxx.59 [I x-ed out those numbers for safety reasons] requested that we send you a new login password for the English Wikipedia.

The new password for the user account "MySceenName" is "[seven digit password]". You can now log in to Wikipedia using that password.

If it was you who requested this new password, then you should log in to Wikipedia and change it to your desired password by clicking "My Preferences" at the top right of any page, or by visiting the following URL:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences

If someone else made this request, or if you have remembered your password and you no longer wish to change it, you may safely ignore this message. Your old/existing password will continue to work despite this new password being created for you.

~Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org

It looks like someone decided to enter your username and then say "I've forgotten my password". If you can remember your old password, then you can just ignore the message. (It shouldn't matter whether that message is genuine or not; Wikipedia will never ask for your password, and if you're given a temporary new one but can still remember the old one, just ignore the message and nothing bad will happen). Hope that helps! --ais523 13:53, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

formatting question

I've done a lot of work on The Great Red Dragon Paintings. Due to the way I've inserted the pictures, all the section edit links are now grouped together and appear in all sorts of random places depending on the size of the browser window. How can I fix this? Thanks, guiltyspark 14:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:How to fix bunched-up edit links. --ais523 14:53, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

emeka ojukwu

your article eroniously gave emeka ojukwu place of birth as nnewi it's zungeru?please check and correct.yours truly rober biggar