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DYK for Potsdam Sandstone

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 08:03, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Norbert Frýd

Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Portrait Diptych of Dürer's Parents

Materialscientist (talk) 08:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Wit's End

Hi Orlady, can you do me a small favor? Please look in at this page and tell me here (if and how) I could have handled it any better? I'm at my wit's end... this is only my third or fourth time as a third party and this debate was particularly troublesome. (I don't mind if you weigh in or not on the actual page, I'm asking for advice, not really help as I don't think it can constructively progress.) Thanks, Markvs88 (talk) 15:34, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but I had hoped you would reply here so as to keep our coversation a little less obvious. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 20:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Promin

Well done on the excellent edits to Promin! You rock! --Slashme (talk) 17:54, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

You've been taken to ANI, but not warned...

So... here's the warning... hello by the way and I doubt anything will come of the complaint at all. Atomician (talk) 19:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Notice

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is #Editor_problem. Thank you.ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 19:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Discussion

I brought you to ANI not to you get you blocked or anything like that. I brought it to ANI to find out how to handle the situation. I'm politely asking you to please end the discussion about my withdrawn nomination since the withdrawal should have ended it. Joe Chill (talk) 20:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

You can discuss things with me, I just asked for that DYK discussion to be ended. You seem to be looked highly upon by other editors which I respect. Joe Chill (talk) 21:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Let's raise our glasses in a toast to "No hard feelings!" --Orlady (talk) 05:04, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Loved the nitpicky comments

You are cordially invited back to User:MichaelQSchmidt/Newcomer's guide to guidelines as I feel it going live is imminent and your earlier sugestion has been implemented. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:38, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Bertha Heyman

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Cuban Friendship Urn

thanks for the source, just filling in a red link of List of RHPs in DC (getting ready for wikimania next year). however i found a newspaper source that conflicts in detail. (left out the "most obscure" accolade) rewrite if you dissagree. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:27, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

thanks for the nom (found a ref to "10 probably never heard of") the city paper has the local stories, cites sources (no wash post here) note, the park ranger may be mistaken. of course, now that we have gps on it, it's no longer obscure: the urban orienteering is easy. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:04, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Orlady, Slowking, I made a comment on your DYK nomination for this article here--I am a bit concerned about the sources and have requested a second opinion. Cheers, --Pgallert (talk) 17:14, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

My thanks

		The Special Barnstar
		During disussions on the talk page for Wikipedia:A Primer for newcomers you shared some wonderful insights that I was able to incorporate into the essay. I am grateful for your assistance and hope that WP:NewbieGuide will be of benefit to newcomers for years to come. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:03, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Category:Connecticut local politicians

Hi Orlady, I'm trying to kill off some of the more useless categories in the project. This one that was started about two years ago, but not much was done with it. I feel it is useless because... what does "local" mean? Local to New Haven is not local to Hartford or New London. How can having a cat for random politicians from all over the state make any sense, versus having them in their own (precise) categories? Best, Markvs88 (talk) 16:00, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

VISTA volunteers, e.g. Carl Gershman

Hi Orlady!

I agree with your comments at the category page, and I thank you for your edits on the Carl Gershman page.

Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 15:59, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK help thanks

Thanks for your work on Earl Best. It's in the DYK queue 6 for midnight tonight ... Trilliumz (talk) 23:27, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Earl Best

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Notability: Schools

There is currently a long and important thread on Jimbo's talk page that might be right up your (High) street. This may finally be the opportunity we are hoping for to get any ambiguities cleared up regarding any perceived interpretations of (non)notability. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:45, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Cuban Friendship Urn

Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:47, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

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DYK nominations reviews

Hi,

I see that your an active reviewer of DYKs, would you mind taking a look at the two below. It would be much appreciated, not to worry if you can't. Thank you.

• Template:Did you know nominations/The Longford Trust‎
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Kind regards,

DYK nominations reviews

Hi,

I see that your an active reviewer of DYKs, would you mind taking a look at the two below. It would be much appreciated, not to worry if you can't. Thank you.

• Template:Did you know nominations/The Longford Trust‎
• Template:Did you know nominations/Edward Fitzgerald (barrister)

Kind regards, --Ratio:Scripta · ^{[ Talk ]} 20:20, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

List of United States Cities by Population, the rank as page shows hides the true population denisty ranking

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population I believe the value of this page is that it allows one to find the population density of a city relative to all the rest in the nation, these figures are helpful in identifying relationships the of pollution, transit usage, and carbon footprint to density in Municipal Planning. I believe the list should be set to open with population density as the ranked figure, and if possible to have the the number rank related to the the figure for which teh list gets sorted, so that if I click the button to sort the cities by land area, it automatically states their relative rank to each other.. ex: when the list is sorted to 'pop density,' remarkably takes 17th place, but the rank numbers still relate this time out of sequence to 'total population.'

A page sort list that auto adjusts the rank, much like a typical database keeps the row numbers proper, even when you resort would be valuable to under grads and post grads, studying urban development, &/or city planning. I live in Berkeley, and we have a school within the university dedicated to urban planning.

Thank you for your time and consideration Moped45 (talk) 08:12, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate your point about the value of a "by density" list for students of urban planning, but they aren't the typical encyclopedia user. List of United States cities by population is sorted by total population, just like the title indicates. It's a fully sortable table, so people interested in how the cities rank by other statistics can easily resort the list. --Orlady (talk) 11:32, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

TY for response, when you sort the list the ranking numbers are jumbled as they relate only too the population rank.. Is there someway to make those numbers responsive to how the list is sorted. Or to simply identify the rows with numbers that don't shuffle so the data changes, i researched it and found a crude method of using to wikitables directly adjacent to each other, but I couldn't typeset them effectively while experimenting... Moped45 (talk) 01:12, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Glendale "University"

Hello Orlady,

I suppose we have been engaging in a debate of sorts regarding the Glendale University page over a few points regarding the accreditation of their company. I think it's fairly clear that you have some interest in representing them in the worst possible light in this respect, and I can't really fault you for that given what they do. I do think you are a bit too cavalier with the terms you are throwing around, though. For instance, to say that its accrediting company lacks "necessary" legal recognition implies that such recognition is somehow necessary. While certain states do have legislation that would make it necessary for a degree-granting entity to have legal recognition in order to lay claim to an accredited status (as is the situation in Canada where I live) this is not the case outside of these few exceptions across the country.

It just seems that the term "unaccredited" is not accurate since they are technically accredited (albeit by a baloney accreditation company). If I may infer as to your motives from the justifications used for your revisions, I would expect that your terminology is meant to indicate your low opinion of this company but has crossed the line into counter-factual claims. I would encourage you to incorporate the problems associated with the accreditation system in the United States in your treatment of the Glendale company rather than to gloss over the issue by simply labelling them as unaccredited. To be frank, it seems that the immediate problem is not that they are unaccredited but that they are not accredited by an unbiased accreditation agency or according to any kind of meaningful standard, and the larger problem is that regulations do not exist to legally differentiate between legitimate and illegitimate accreditation (government recommendations notwithstanding).

Anyway, I do realize that Wikipedia is a fairly fallacious source of information anyway (especially in light of my experience with this matter) but I thought I would try to make it a bit more accurate. You may now proceed to completely disregard my argument and continue to rule Wikipedia with an iron fist.

) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.1.195.4 (talk) 17:11, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Is this discussion regarding Talk:Glendale University College of Law‎? Even if not, please take a look. --S. Rich (talk) 00:38, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Denver - Radioactive contamination

As the section that you so-uncourteously deleted in its entirety was done without any discussion whatsoever, I have initiated a review of this dispute to the Dispute resolution noticeboard, asking for independent reviews. Frankly, given all the data that was posted regarding the effectively permanent impacts on Denver -- again, Denver...with Rocky Flats being the source of the unquestioned plutonium problems -- I'm appalled at your actions given your administrator status. --FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 21:48, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

P.S. This is just one of many data sources quoted in what you deleted in its entirety. Clearly, given that we are dealing with a radionuclide -- plutonium-239 -- with a 24,000 year half-life, comments on the impact on Denver are both encyclopedic and a public service. This is a very straightforward situation, and yet you have acted both wrongly and with a very clear POV yourself. I am very honestly shocked. --FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 21:58, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

WE have in turn been referred to the article's talk page to resolve the situation. In the spirit of good intentions, I ask that you undelete the article pending a public airing out of this issue.

Needless to say, given the wide body of evidence regarding the impact of plutonium on Denver, your unilateral actions to delete the article outright were heavy-handed, and not what I'm used to seeing from a Wikipedia administrator. I think it only appropriate that you rescind your actions given the substantial impacts on the Denver area quoted in this sub-article.

Having said, and asked, all that...I'm looking forward to your reply. This should be very interesting. --FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 22:23, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

As you have neither continued the discussion nor restored the section you deleted, I must assume we are deadlocked. This serves as notice that I have once again flagged this issue to the dispute resolution board.

I look forward to resolving this impasse and creating a Denver article that provides appropriate information on the plutonium contamination there -- how it happened, what its impacts are, what the best sources of information may be. It's a difficult issue to confront in an honest and high-integrity fashion...but that doesn't mean we shouldn't make the attempt. --FormerNukeSubmariner (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

• On a different note, I question whether you should have edited the article and then semi-protected it. One or the other, but not both, in my opinion. I also weakly disagree with the editorial choice you made, but that can be resolved in article talk. Best wishes, --John (talk) 03:11, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Furthermore, as I said to your protagonist in the content dispute, please play the ball, not the man. --John (talk) 03:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
    • Point taken. I've replied where you should be able to find it. --Orlady (talk) 04:14, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
      • I saw and replied to your comment at my talk. On sober reflection, yes, I might have done the same myself. No worries. --John (talk) 04:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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Korba Coalfield

I have tried my level best to address your concerns about the DYK nomination for the above. Kindly review and advise further. Thanks. - Chandan Guha (talk) 07:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for improving the article - Chandan Guha (talk) 14:01, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

I enjoyed learning about the coalfield and the massive Gevra Mine. Thank you for contributing the article and doing such a nice job with it! --Orlady (talk) 14:06, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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Request

Hello Orlady, as a person whom I believe to be very fair in reqard to opinions. I would like for you to take a look and possibly comment on a suggested move of an article which I made here: Talk:School of Tropical Medicine. You see, I believe that the title of the current article is not proper and should be moved (renamed), therefore making room for an disambiguation page for other articles of places which share the same name. Thank you, Tony the Marine (talk) 15:48, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

I strongly agree with your position. In view of the reversion of your renaming attempt, I thought it best to create a formal "requested move". That's done... --Orlady (talk) 16:37, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

• • Thank you, I knew that I was right when I stated that you were a fair person and that you would make the right suggestion, be it either in agreement or disagreement with me. The situation seems to have been taken care of and I have re-created the disambiuation page once more. Thank you once more. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:05, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Hugh Lawson White

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK Palestinian rabbis

I have endevoured to fix it. Chesdovi (talk) 18:36, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Photos in Westchester

I thought the photos were ok... If you think better ones could be put in place I have no problem. As an fyi, I am trying to clean out Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in New York by figuring out which have photos and pigeon holing the rest by county. The state category was much too big and unwieldy to be of real use, IMHO (2600 entries). So far there have been only a hand full that had photos and REALLY needed new photos. I will edit the reqphotos you restored to put them in the county. If I eliminate any more reqphotos that you think should be kept, would you please put them in the county category, rather than the state category? I think this would greatly help the possibility of getting a contribution.

Thanks! --Arg342 (talk) 13:32, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I explained myself on your talk page. You are doing good work -- those are the only three images that I had a concern about, and my concern has nothing whatsoever to do with your work. All three buildings are in Westchester.
Thanks for the advice on adding county tags to other requested images in New York state. --Orlady (talk) 14:02, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I saw your concern. It is certainly valid. I'm going to continue in my vein of cleaning up. Please do continue your work of watching for questionalble photos! Thanks! --Arg342 (talk) 15:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Deliberate?

Hi Orlady. Just wondering if this was a deliberate revert? The request certainly appeared to be in good faith. Jenks24 (talk) 02:29, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello. The species is called Leptidea sinapis. The article is currently called Leptidea sinapsis because I mistyped when I tried moving it from one of its common names, Wood White, too, well, Leptidea sinapis. I made a similar typo involving another species earlier today and got it corrected with no problem. I do acknowledge it's my fault but I don't understand the curt rejection. Noym (talk) 02:53, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

That was most definitely not a deliberate edit! I don't remember making the edit -- I don't even remember looking at the Requested moves page in that time frame. The most logical explanation is a household pet walking (or possibly rolling over) on the keyboard.... I'll go see about resolving it. --Orlady (talk) 03:01, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes, pets and keyboards... the dog in residence here at Noym HQ can make you hit Enter at really inopportune moments just by gently tapping your hand. He understands tapping your hand will usually get him scratched behind the ears. He does not appear to understand mail clients. Thank you for fixing my mistake for me! Noym (talk) 03:59, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Interview with Wikimedia Foundation

Hello Orlady, I hope you're well. My name is Aaron and I'm one of the Storytellers working on the 2011 fundraiser for the Wikimedia Foundation. For this year's campaign, we're interviewing as many of the very active and productive Wikipedians as we can to broaden the range of appeals we run come November. I wonder if you would want to tell me more about your experiences editing and writing here? If so, I'll ask you your personal story and I'll ask you some general questions about Wikipedia. Please let me know if you're interesting by emailing amuszalskiwikimedia.org. Thanks! user:Aaron (WMF)

Bill Huffman

Although Huffman has stated repeatedly that he has retired the account to protect his privacy, he continues to use it. I understand that you have some awareness of his history of socking because he socked when you and him were editing diploma mill articles together. I request that you, as an admin, indef block the Huffman account which should take care of the current problem. Thank you. Cla68 (talk) 23:52, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Yoru DYK nom for Athletics Bridge

Hi Orldady, thanks for all the help around DYK. I've taken a look at your nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Athletics Bridge and I have some issues with the references and interest factor of the hook. Could you look into that and then reply at the nomination page? Thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:06, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for John Williams (Tennessee)

Materialscientist (talk) 20:32, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Athletics Bridge

Orlady (talk) 10:07, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for John Randolph Neal, Jr.

Orlady (talk) 22:23, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Second opinion requested

Hi Orlady, I was wondering if you could take a look at the nomination for ODB++ as I am not sure if the hook is acceptable. Thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:28, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

• And the hook at Template:Did you know nominations/X (The X-Files)? You had previously expressed concern with the original hook, and the ALTs I've suggested are somewhat racy. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

John Collee

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1982 World's Fair

Hi, I noticed you among the top contributors to 1982 World's Fair and just now I happened across a great resource for some properly referenced info.[1] Scroll around for more about the U.S. exhibit and a sketch of other countries' exhibits on page 7B. At any rate, I thought it worth pointing out because I have worked another article using Google News extensively and found some of the links to old papers to be ephemeral. -- ke4roh (talk) 01:54, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Eighty Five East Ridge

Materialscientist (talk) 00:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

WP NRHP in the Signpost

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DYK for ODB++

It's been a rough week for ODB++, but I think the article is in fairly good shape now. Can you take one more look before the nom falls off the end of the earth? nomination Thanks! Woz2 (talk) 14:37, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

		The Guidance Barnstar
		Thanks for your guidance on the ODB++ DYK nomination. Whatever the outcome, the discussion and references were very helpful in improving the article. Woz2 (talk) 16:03, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional references. (BTW, you're good at finding the high quality ones. What's the technique? DMOZ?). I added the links and drafted ALT4 and ALT5. Please take a look if you have a moment. Tx. Woz2 (talk) 10:42, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

ODB++ is on the main page now! Thanks for your contributions! Woz2 (talk) 01:05, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Mhadei Wildlife Sanctuary

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Rollbacking Privileges

I would like to notify you that using the Rollback feature in this manner is not considered proper use of the privilege. Please review WP:ROLLBACK#When to use rollback. Also, not notifying me that you have removed the DYK template from the listing will make my DYK lost and is not very nice. --Odie5533 (talk) 02:27, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I regret any role I had in that edit, but the truth is that I have no idea what happened. I've replied on your talk page. --Orlady (talk) 02:48, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

General warning

WP:NPA WP:CIV WP:CITE WP:V WP:WEASEL WP:3RR ╟─TreasuryTag►inspectorate─╢ 19:44, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Forgot Wikipedia:Lede#Citations ╟─TreasuryTag►co-prince─╢ 19:46, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

@TreasuryTag, this is more than a little unfriendly and excessive. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 19:56, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

It's definitely not excessive. ╟─TreasuryTag►voice vote─╢ 20:04, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

While you are right that Orlady could have handled themselves better on your page and was fairly aggressive you have upped the ante here. Your edits at the New Yorker were also done in a fairly aggressive fashion - probably the final version is the one you should have gone for originally. The points made about the New Yorker in its lead aren't that controversial. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:13, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't wish to discuss anything with you, at any time. In future, when you feel obliged to move into talkpage threads in which I have particpated, please do not expect me to engage with you. ╟─TreasuryTag►constablewick─╢ 20:23, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

• FTR, Treasury Tag showed up at The New Yorker, a long and well-cited article with an extensive history of editing by numerous contributors and where TT had no previous edit history, and summarily deleted half of the lead section as WP:Peacock wording. When I reverted him, and after that in a message on his talk page, I pointed out that the content was well-supported by citations in the article body, consistent with WP:Lead section. TT also deleted my message on his talk page, where I suggested that his edits were POV-motivated vandalism (rather than defense of article quality, as he claims), then came here to tell me that I was out of line for reverting his edits twice. All this looks to me like deliberately disruptive behavior on TT's part. --Orlady (talk) 20:29, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

  Yes. Whereas accusing an established editor with, as you say, no prior history of editing in the area, of "POV-motivated vandalism," is greatly encouraged I guess? ╟─TreasuryTag►cabinet─╢ 20:30, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Nectar/honey

Nectar is a plant product, produced for the sole purpose of attracting pollinators. Honey is a food produced from nectar by some colony forming insects, for the sole purpose of feeding their larvae. They are no more the same thing than wheat and pasta. The bird in question is not called a nectareater: there is no more irony or hookiness in saying that it does not eat nectar than in saying that it does not eat seed or fish. Kevin McE (talk) 21:28, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

No Honeyeater eats honey from bees. The honey in the name refers to nectar and plant sugars. Insects are its primary food source and its bill is adapted to an insect diet. Alternative food sources have been removed from the lead section. Marj (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

But the article states, "the Striped Honeyeater relies on insects, seeds and fruits as major food sources, as well as nectar", so nectar is a considerable part of its diet. We can't say that its main food source is not nectar, when nectar is listed as one of the four main food groups for this bird. Kevin McE (talk) 23:04, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Can you work on yet another a new template?

I would like to see a new and widely applied template.

Gist would be This Administrator is an Obvious Jerk

I think you would get much recognition for work on this project, which is much in keeping with Wikipedia ethos.

Even "jimbo" would maybe love your for this, and invite you for dinner or something.

Frankly is brilliant idea. I offer this freely for your own benefit.

Calamitybrook (talk) 06:25, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback for DYK Nom

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DYK: Death of Hank Williams

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James Alexander Fowler DYK

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Duplication Detector

You will have noticed some problems I have just had trying to clean up close paraphrasing. In particular, I didn't understand the circumstances where Duplication Detector doesn't work. Google Books returned this return, and I mistakenly assumed the text was clean instead of realising that that Duplication Detector doesn't do Google Books. The second problem was when DirectScience returned this result (that one got me into trouble with you). Duplication Detector doesn't do DirectScience either. So may I ask, is there an essay somewhere on effective ways to reliably clean up close paraphrasing, and are you aware of other pitfalls using Duplication Detector? Thanks. --Epipelagic (talk) 06:17, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

First off, I want to say that I am impressed by your noble efforts to nominate all of these new aquaculture articles for main-page attention. (Were they created as an educational class project somewhere?) I know that you've done an enormous amount of good work improving them so that they will meet DYK quality criteria. I am sure that it's frustrating when reviewers find issues with your "adoptees" like the one that I found in Octopus aquaculture. I recently unceremoniously withdrew a DYK nomination of someone else's article when it was found to have copyvio content, but I didn't much care about that particular article (unlike your situation with the aquaculture articles).
I use Duplication Detector, but I don't rely on it. Many of the instances of close paraphrasing that I find are detected the old-fashioned way: by looking at the cited sources. In a long and complex article, that's pretty haphazard, of course, but when I find one exceptionally close matching string like the one I reported in the octopus article, I pretty much expect to find others. One thing I have seen with Duplication Detector is that it returns a lot of irrelevant "matches," such as the page title that appears in the Wikipedia article reference citations, strings of words that are totally acceptable (like "common octopus Octopus vulgaris"), and boilerplate from the bottom of a webpage (such as "see terms of use"). If you don't get any matches at all with Duplication Detector, you can be pretty sure that it didn't work. --Orlady (talk) 12:46, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I was going to reply when things ran their course. I hope things are well with you. No, I don't find it frustrating when you raise legitimate content issues. I think you can be a hard task master, but I don't have a problem with that. The articles seem worth rewriting and expanding, and I can get lazy when there is no constructive input; you sitting on the sideline picking at this and that is good. But cleaning up close paraphrasing is different – a real pain. When it runs through everything, as it did with most of the articles I nominated, it simply becomes a nightmare. Anyway, I did learn some pitfalls, and I think I'm getting better at it. Some university instructor told their master students to each write a Wikipedia article on aquaculture. They prepared their work in advance, and most of them downloaded their completed efforts on the same day. There was no warning or consultation with Wikipedia. It took me several days to realize something was going on, and that there were these raw articles all over the place. There was no time left to work with the students so they could nominate their own articles, so I just nominated seven of them myself. Another group of editors nominated an eighth, and there were about another six that could have been nominated had there been time. Then, of course, I had to deal with the mess... much more than I'd expected! Anyway, thank you very much for giving me space to shepherd this stuff through. Much appreciated. --Epipelagic (talk) 00:55, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Giuseppe Orioli

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NRHP Photo Contest

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DYK for James Alexander Fowler

Thanks from me for this article and hook Victuallers (talk) 00:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK

Why did you remove the DYK entry from a new user [2] ? They're awfully confused now. I've tried to put it back.  Chzz  ►  01:43, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, it's very confusing. Anyway, thanks for the help; the entry looks OK for now; I'll wait and see what hoops they have to jump through! Cheers.  Chzz  ►  13:50, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Flagler Hosptial DYK

Thanks for the review of Template:Did you know nominations/Flagler Hospital. I have responded to your questions, and I look forward to your feedback. Mgrē@sŏn 15:38, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Orlady, to the best of my knowledge, all of the issues raised in this nomination have been resolved. If you agree, please finish the review; if not, let me know specifically what remains. Thanks for your assistance. Mgrē@sŏn 20:30, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am currently overwhelmed with life issues and unable to do much of anything that requires me to have an attention span. On the DYK discussion page, I've asked for other people to pick up the various DYK nom reviews that are waiting for my input. I hope someone will follow through. Be aware that there are no deadlines for DYK reviews -- your nom will not get discarded solely due to elapsed time... --Orlady (talk) 23:03, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Joe Danger

I've addressed your concern; could I ask that you inform me via my talk page next time an issue is brought up? I missed this one for that reason. Thank you for your input, and best, — Joseph Fox 03:52, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for my omission. With the new templates for nominations, nominators typically have their nominations watchlisted, so it seemed redundant to send notifications. I guess I need to rethink that theory! --Orlady (talk) 12:41, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

That's okay, almost certainly an error on my part ;) I've now replied to your reply, as it were. — Joseph Fox 14:34, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks anyway

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Francis Alfred Broad

Hello. The article Francis Alfred Broad, which is currently at Did you know nominations/Francis Alfred Broad, was posted on the 10 October 2011. Have I done something wrong with the nomination as no one seems to have reviewed it since then. I recently returned to Wikipedia following a break and am now unsure of the new procedures. I chose your name from those posting at DYK. I hope you don't mind this query --Senra (Talk) 16:22, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

I hope someone else can pick it up, as I'm not able to do so at the moment. Fortunately, there's no deadline for DYK reviews... --Orlady (talk) 23:05, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

No worries. Thank you anyway --Senra (Talk) 18:49, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks. Cute kitty. Much younger than the cat who lives with me. --Orlady (talk) 23:04, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

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Justin Wilson

Can you move this page to a more sensible title? "Motor racing" is never hyphenated, and the correct disambiguator for racing drivers is "racing driver". Thanks. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:38, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

That was quick! Thanks. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:42, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for my error. I found a diverse variety of terms when I looked for a good disambiguation term. --Orlady (talk) 21:44, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Not at all, and the move itself was needed. We've found the same problem with all kinds of disambiguators for racing drivers and there's a discussion going on right now in fact (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Motorsport#Disambiguation convention needed) so hopefully it'll be resolved soon. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:58, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

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User:Philip Baird Shearer

What do you make of this user's return to form at Talk:Guy Fawkes Night? It appears to me as though he's completely ignored every recommendation you made at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Philip Baird Shearer. Parrot of Doom 18:34, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Bill Smith (fell runner)

Dear Orlady, Sorry you bailed. I would think that the current iteration of the article would be noncontroversial, but what do I know. I'm just an anonymous contributor to articles that aren't valued here, no matter the effort that went into them. Pity. Best of luck to you. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:51, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance in the editing. Please take a look at Talk:Bill Smith (fell runner). I also was having recurrent problems getting the footnote numbering (in the body of the article) to line up numerically. Don't know why, and I guess if I did I would have fixed it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:53, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

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Shiue

Hi Orlady. Thanks for commenting on DYK nomination. Following your comment, I did some copyediting. Please revisit the article Ming Sen Shiue and let me know what you think. Thanks! Tuscumbia (talk) 21:09, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Northcentral University

Hi Orlady, You recently undid a deletion I made on the Northcentral University page. I'd like to pursue this further.

The statement about the US Dept of Ed requiring a letter of credit from Northcentral is in the History section which I contend does not belong. In addition, Nortcentral had a change of ownership and control in December of 2008. The accounting treatment for transactions of this kind negatively affects the Department of Education's financial responsibility ratio. Therefore, any University undergoing a change in ownership is highly unlikely to pass the financial responsibility ratio for a number of years. For institutions in situations such as this, the U.S. Department of Education provides alternative options to demonstrate financial responsibility, including an option to obtain a letter of credit. Our initial letter of credit requirement from 2009 through September of 2011 was to post a letter of credit in the amount of 50% of the prior year's student financial aid. In 2011, the University had a favorable annual financial audit report and showed continued strength in the its ability to generate positive cash flow. The U S Department of Education decided to reduce the amount of the letter of credit requirement considerably. The University believes that based on our ability to obtain the required letter of credit and other measures of financial strength, our financial stability is strong, and our recurring earnings are more than sufficient to meet our current and future obligations and continue to make heavy investment in the quality and delivery of our educational offerings.

Also, the composite financial score is not a reflection of the quality of education at a given school. Furthermore, 180 are also listed as not meeting the composite financial score requirements and I do not see an entry in Wikipedia stating such. I don't see the value in the entry.

Lastly, I will be making additional changes and updates to the Northcentral University. I am a fairly new wikipedia user and will make my best effort to follow the guidelines and terms of use but would appreciate your guidance in the area. Thank you for your time.

Myjourneyaz (talk) 19:06, 22 November 2011 (UTC)myjourneyaz

As I advised you on your talk page, Wikipedia requires reliable sources for content. You deleted reliably sourced information because you say it is incorrect, but you have not provided a reliable source for your information. Further, as I advised you on your talk page, Talk:Northcentral University is the appropriate place to discuss this. I am copying this conversation there. --Orlady (talk) 19:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

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DYK review

Sorry I created a little extra work for you. I assumed that you had reviewed everything after seeing the apparent approval of a new reviewer (which eventually turned out to actually not be there at all), but, in these days where accountability seems to be of utmost importance, it's very good that you specifically added your note of approval, especially since the discussion at that point was in a state of controversy. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:09, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

This is probably going to get lost on the DYK talk page

But may I draw your attention here? Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 02:03, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK nom credit

Reinhard Febel is now on the Main page. A few minutes before, Scarabocchio inserted a beautiful table to that article. Is there any way to credit him as author3 in retrospect. He actually supplied the most valuable part. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Tea

I notice that a certain recently promoted DYK article refers to sources that appear to be about the same subject as the article itself. It may be safer to restrict articles that appear on the front page to topics about which nothing has ever been written, so there is no possibility of infringing copyright. Aymatth2 (talk) 19:51, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

LOL --Orlady (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

DYK compound of three octahedra

In Template:Did you know nominations/Compound of three octahedra you wrote: "Unfortunately, the Stars article doesn't qualify as a 5x expansion, as calculated using DYKcheck and related tools. I unbolded it." However, when I run DYKcheck it tells me "DYKcheck does not account for previous versions with splits or copyright violations." Since accounting for a copyvio is exactly the issue here (as already stated in the original nom), I wonder how you persuaded DYKcheck to account for that — it seems like it would be useful information to add to the script documentation. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Glenorchy Parish Church; River Orchy

Hello Orlady. I appreciate the time you've spent researching and editing Glenorchy Parish Church and River Orchy. I was a bit despondent after dealing with recent DYK remarks and didn't want to taint these articles much more than the subsequent edits that I did make. However, your detailed comments were put so kindly that I'll give the river article some attention tomorrow. Thank you for being kind. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:42, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Roger Craig (Jeopardy! contestant)

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DYK for Alfred E. Jackson

Thanks! Donner60 (talk) 05:07, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Joseph Saragosi

Hi Orlady - thank you for the recognition for saving Saragosi. My next task is to look at "Glenorchy Parish Church and River Orchy". I'd like to get these accepted but I think some of your comments are a bit harsh?? Solitary rural hotels in England are way markers. (Although I see that the current Dalmally hotel is of modern construction) There are also some factoids that may be improvable.... thats why other editors are asked to pile in? Would you consider moving your comments on this article to the article's talk page and give it a tick? If there are aspects that are definately outside DYK rules then I'll see if I can fix them. Victuallers (talk) 11:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Tadeusz Wrona (aviator)

You closed the merger discussion at Talk:LOT Polish Airlines Flight 16 as no consensus to merge Tadeusz Wrona (aviator) into that article, but I don't follow your reading of the discussion. Particularly you said that the award on 7th November was crucial to the independent notability, but that didn't change anybody's opinion at all! Those who were arguing individual notability beforehand still argued independent notability afterwards, those (including me) who don't believe in his individual notability explicitly detailed why an award for this event didn't count as independent from it. All the arguments for opposing the merger were countered with reasons why they were not reasons to oppose, several as they were arguments against deletion not arguments against a merger, most of the others because they were not evidence of individual notability. The same is not true of the arguments to merge, based principally on the WP:BLP1E policy, which were generally ignored or handwaved away. Thryduulf (talk) 07:24, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Son of God (TV series)

Hi there Orlady. I notice that you've promoted the DYK nomination for Son of God and moved it into prep area 1. I was wondering whether it might be worth holding the nom until Christmas Day, because of its obvious reference to Jesus. Is it too late to do that? Thanks very much. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 08:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Also, is there any particular reason why the image that I nominated alongside the hook is not currently being used? Thanks again. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 15:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thank you for all your work helping to get Caerthillian to Kennack through DYK! Cheers, Zangar (talk) 13:40, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Potsdam Sandstone

Thanks for the tweaks to the position and content of the Potsdam sandstone pics that I added - particularly my typo! I also wanted to mention that some recent changes have been made to the stratigraphy ... specifically, the term Potsdam sandstone (a term that does not follow the conventions of the North American Stratigraphic Code) has been dropped in favor of Ausable or Covey Hill Formations. There is a big debate about this nomenclature, with folks from the GSC favoring one set of terms and people from the NYS Museum favoring another. Frankly, I think that launching into this in Wikipedia would only confuse things, but it might be worth briefly mentioning the formal stratigraphic units that make up the Potsdam sandstone and referring the reader to the appropriate literature. Perhaps entries for the formal terms could be set up to redirect to the Potsdam sandstone entry. The competing nomenclature is nicely summarized in Figure 3 of Hagadorn, J. W., Collette, J. H., and Belt, E. S., 2011, Eolian-aquatic deposits and faunas of the Middle Cambrian Potsdam Group: Palaios, v. 26, no. 5, p. 314-334. If you agree, I would be happy to take a stab at this over the coming weeks (plus add a few more pics showing the details of the rock itself). Please let me know what you think! Rygel, M.C. (talk) 15:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Constant Puyo

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for George Tchobanoglous

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Damerius

Apologies for removing your comment; I had not realized that you did the promotion and the comment in the same edit. Regarding your edit summary: you're not expected to be perfect, but that was a bit of a quick turn-around. No big deal, though, everyone makes mistakes. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Adolphe Braun

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DYK for The Letters of Vincent van Gogh

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DYK for Tanglish

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DYK now

If you could improve Q1, could you also improve the Main page as had been suggested (then Q6) on WT:DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:57, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Working on John Crockett (frontiersman)

Hi, I'm trying to address some of your concerns but I have a few questions. Can you take a look? --AW (talk) 16:29, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

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I know you're busy... please have a look again if you've got time. Thanks, Pgallert (talk) 17:41, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

an unsolicited suggestion re: DYKQs

Hello, Orlady.

Here's an unsolicited suggestion: Pls sign with ~~~ instead of ~~~~ in {{DYKbotdo}} at the top of each DYKQ. Otherwise, the DYK bot will post the DYK credits on your behalf with your signature next to two time-stamps indicating two different times and dates. (example)

Hope this helps. Cheers! --PFHLai (talk) 01:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome, Orlady. Don't worry too much about it. It's a very easy misclick to make. Happy editing. Cheers! --PFHLai (talk) 02:12, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for restoring List of animals with fraudulent diplomas quickly

-Lexein (talk) 14:58, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

The Wikipedia entry is "List of animals with fraudulent diplomas", not "List of animals with fraudulent diplomas who have managed to make it into the (more or less reputable) media and thus had their existence (or, to be more strictly accurate, unconfirmed reports of their existence) verified beyond the narrow ambit of those humans who knew them". Brooks's existed, was (fraudulently) ordained by the Universal Life Church, and died a year ago as by far the longest-lived of the litter. The others (Boodles, Guinness, Murphy, Tatiana and Baboushka) were variously killed by cars, feline cancer and foxes. Brooks's satisfied the entry's criteria, and surely deserves Wikipedia immortality. His ordination provided considerable amusement, not least in the form of the framed certificate above his feeding-bowl. I therefore (gently!) deplore your edit! Cordially, Sheherezade Fong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sherefong (talk • contribs) 16:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

(Excuse the stalking) - Sherefong, I was thanking Orlady for restoring the article name. About "Brooks's", do you have some news or magazine article(s) to support the story? This could even be a local or community newspaper. Inclusion criteria for the article require at the moment, at least one reliable source, to satisfy WP:Verifiability policy. Please don't take the deletion of a new item for lack of a source personally. --Lexein (talk) 07:25, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

List of animals with fraudulent diplomas

Shall we just boldly standardize all the pet names with the owner's last names? --Lexein (talk) 07:04, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I was wondering if you agree with the above suggestion? --Lexein (talk) 23:04, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I overlooked your message earlier. My answer is "No." Use the names given by the sources. Regardless, this kind of thing should be discussed on the article talk page. --Orlady (talk) 23:08, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough - seemed like you and I have been the voices of reason there, given the recent activity. --Lexein (talk) 01:39, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 1804 Haiti Massacre

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Aboakyer Festival (DYK)

Thanks for the review of my DYK, I have addressed the issues you raised and have largely re-written the article. Would be grateful if you could review it again and accord the right DYK tag. Thanks a lot too for the work done on the Fancy Dress Festival DYK. A friend called  CrossTempleJay  → talk 10:06, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Family Foundation School

Possibly some socking going on this page again.[3] I left the IP a little note on his page since it concerns you. [[4]]--Wlmg (talk) 01:58, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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I'd be delighted to let you complete it! I wasn't focused on this! --Orlady (talk) 02:05, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

And I completely forgot to check for the bot to update. Thanks for noticing! I'll inform Shubinator, complete this update and watch for next one. Materialscientist (talk) 02:07, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Sentence in lead of nicknames in Ohio

It really does sound like an original research statement. If you can't provide a citation for a statement (particularly with regard to the 'who' is making these claims)then it certainly seems suspect. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 18:43, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

That sentence appears in roughly 50 articles, not just the one where you deleted it. The main article where it exists is List of city nicknames in the United States, where a variant form of that sentence appeared as early as this edit in June 2006. (The nicknames of Ohio article is one of many that were split from the U.S. article, and are transcluded into that article.) Instead of edit-warring over whether the sentence is verifiably true regarding the suburbs of Cleveland, Ohio, let's discuss the matter at Talk:List of city nicknames in the United States. --Orlady (talk) 19:35, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Already done so. Thanks. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 20:40, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Black Loch, New Cumnock

The DYK project (nominate) 13:19, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Creoch Loch

The DYK project (nominate) 13:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Loch o' th' Lowes, New Cumnock

The DYK project (nominate) 13:21, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

Hi, I'm with the Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2011. I've been working on the Olympic marmot as part of a project, and now, multiple reviewers have told me that it's ready to be reviewed for GA! I nominated it, but TCO suggests to recruit reviewers to facilitate the process, and he directed me to you and a few other users. I would like to ask if you weren't too busy, to do the GA review for the Olympic marmot. I'd really appreciate it! I'm going to ask a few of the other names he gave me about this too, and whoever has the time to get to it first can review it. Thanks! Imthebombliketicktick (talk) 17:31, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Preferred walking speed

I think your proposed ALT is fine. If that's the only thing holding the nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Preferred walking speed back, we should pass it. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks!

Hi, thanks for the suggestions on John Crockett! It went to the front page yesterday. --AW (talk) 02:13, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ecobank Nigeria

The DYK project (nominate) 23:03, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Gregory Rift

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1931 Oaxaca earthquake

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Bull's Ferry

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oops

[5] Thanks. They do look alike to someone without enough caffeine. 24.177.99.126 (talk) 16:09, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I know the problem... --Orlady (talk) 17:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

just passing through ...

... and wanted to note that I like your style. :) — Ched :  ?  16:13, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Asking about how to detect close paraphrasing

Hi,

I failed to detect the close paraphrasing in Harry Toulmin (Unitarian minister), even though I employed all the methods suggested in the various "help" pages, "essays" and "dispatches". Would you be willing to share your method?

Best wishes,

MathewTownsend (talk) 02:40, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Surgeons and laryngologists

Thanks for this change. That improves the hook. What happened there is that laryngology is a surgical speciality, but he did basic research in comparative anatomy (dissecting across a wide range of animals, hence the structure and evolution bit), which is not what most surgeons chose to do. The work was more one of anatomy, physiology and zoology (in the tradition of Darwin and Hunter). Anyway, the important bit is the contrast between surgeon and the basic research, which now clearer in the hook thanks to that change you made. Trying to say more might end up being misleading, so I'm happy for that to be the hook and let those that chose to read the article find out what he did. Carcharoth (talk) 19:32, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Olympic marmot

Hi, you took on the Olympic marmot GA review on December 31st and you haven't reviewed anything yet. I'm doing this article as a project for my AP Biology course and our deadline is this week. I'd really appreciate it if you could finish the review, or if you're too busy, pass it on to another reviewer who has more time (if possible). Thank you! Imthebombliketicktick (talk) 15:25, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Still time to modify a DYK hook?

Hi, I see that you altered the hook slightly in shifting the DYK for Uncle Henry's Playhouse to prep 4. I think that some mention of the earlier games in the series would make the hook more interesting, though, since most people are unlikely to know what series the game belongs to. It's a very rare game due to its low distribution figures and its name makes it sound like a game for infants rather than the horror-themed puzzle games that preceded it in the series. So readers may not realize that the game was part of the same series without explicit mention. The earlier games in the series were blockbuster best-sellers that were very popular in the 1990s and mentioning them in the hook will likely grab fans of those games, many of whom will never have heard of this third member of the series.

What would you think of something like this:

• ... that despite the commercial successes of earlier games in the The 7th Guest series, Uncle Henry's Playhouse sold only 176 copies worldwide?

I'm unfamiliar with DYK's procedures, so if it's too late to make a change at this point, or if it seems like this isn't a good idea then no problem. Either way, thanks for your help. -Thibbs (talk) 06:21, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for your help. -Thibbs (talk) 21:42, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Sal Sunseri

Would you mind locking this article? U.T. fans are vandalizing it. Bms4880 (talk) 15:07, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

US populous cities notes

I would like the notes section on the List of United States cities by population page to be cleaned up a bit. I don't understand why we need note (e) and note (f)...they're the same thing (also, letter (a) under note (f) doesn't even have a working link). We should just keep all of those independent cities as one note instead of dividing them into two (also, preferably use 'except for' instead of 'excepting' when discussing the Arlington, VA situation). The second note would be getting rid of note (h) and including in as part of note (g) since it simply describes Jacksonville, FL's consolidated status in the same way as Indianapolis, Louisville, etc. Also...it'd probably be a good idea to make sure the population figures for the balances are correct (I don't know if they are or not...I had checked once a few months ago and they weren't). But seeing as to how I really am not too privy on the syntax of notation on Wikipedia, and seeing that you had semi-protected the page, I was wondering if you could please make the changes to the notes so they're more organized. In the meantime, I am going to begin writing HTML on my computer for replacing the 'city area' and 'density' columns with '2000 population' and 'growth percent' columns (since the article is specifically about populated cities, I figure that having columns showing a change in population growth would be more pertinent than showing what the densities are since population densities are not necessarily indicative of a city's size). Thank you so much and just write me back if you have any questions or suggestions. I will also post this on the main talk page for that article. Coulraphobic123 (talk) 05:15, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Olympic marmot

Hi! I just wanted to drop by to let you know that I haven't forgotten about the GA review for the Olympic marmot. I do plan on addressing the rest of what you've left, I've just had a really busy week with final exams for the semester and other school projects and such. If I don't finish it tomorrow, it should be done by Tuesday night. I'm sorry it's taken me so long! I really do appreciate you reviewing it. Regards, Imthebombliketicktick (talk) 05:47, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Glad to hear it! I'll be watching for your next contributions. --Orlady (talk) 05:50, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Alright! I think I'm done. Feel free to check it out :) Imthebombliketicktick (talk) 23:38, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Phew! With Wikipedia going dark in 15 minutes, I fear there isn't enough time. But I guess I will save a copy of the page and review it... --Orlady (talk) 04:44, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Oxohalide

I take exception to your statement "when it shows so little regard for WP:V." 23 references - little regard?. Please look at my user page and you'll see how many articles that I have written have been accepted for DYK.

On the question of defining the term oxohalide, it appears (pardon me if I'm wrong) that you know no chemistry. The names of chemical compounds are governed by IUPAC Chemical nomenclature rules. In this case oxo means "contains an oxygen atom" and halide means "contains a halogen atom (hal) in a negative oxidation state (ide)". Therefore the name itself is a definition of a class of compounds.

So cite IUPAC. The citations for the lead sentence of Oxocarbon are a fine example. --Orlady (talk) 19:07, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Your suggestion that the equation

[Cr₂O₇]²⁻ + 4Cl⁻ + 6H⁺ → 2CrO₂Cl₂ + 3H₂O

should contain chemical compounds is wrong because any chloride salt (NaCl, KCl..) or dichromate salt (Na₂Cr₂O₇, K₂Cr₂O₇) would do equally well. Sulphuric acid is not included as such because it is in vast excess. The equation expresses the stoichiometry of the reaction, so it is right not to include things that do not take part in the chemical reaction. I can see that the layman might be confused by this, but such confusion can occur with any technical subject matter.

So in place of "This is illustrated by the reaction of a mixture of a chromate or dichromate salt and potassium chloride with concentrated sulfuric acid," why not write "This is illustrated by the reaction of a mixture of a chromate or dichromate salt and a chloride salt with a strong acid"? --Orlady (talk) 19:07, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

a)The original sentence reflected the cited source. The reaction is fun to demonstrate to students, so the recipe is relevant. b) It has to be concentrated sulphuric acid (normally 98%) because otherwise the product would be destroyed (hydrolyzed) by water in the acid. It seemed right in the context not to include this detail. Another detail that I left out is that the reaction cab been used as the basis for a test for the presence of chloride in a mixture. There's only so much detail that one can include.

Incidentally, in common parlance "strong acid" means concentrated, corrosive etc. but in chemistry it means another thing , namely fully dissociated. Another instance illustrating the difficulty of conveying technical material to the layman. Petergans (talk) 10:42, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Stuart Robinson School

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 08:03, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Olympic marmot

Thank you for the level of scrutiny regarding interpretation of references. The students often cherry pick information and then in an effort to avoid plagiarism modify the script at the expense of accuracy of content. My student is learning an excellent lesson on the importance of "understanding" the content that is being added and the importance of being an "expert" on the subject. Verifying content as it relates to the citation is extremely time consuming. Your willingness to sacrifice this time is deeply appreciated. Regards (AP Biology Teacher) --JimmyButler (talk) 17:44, 19 January 2012 (UTC)