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Ollie231213

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Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

Request concerning Ollie231213

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Ricky81682 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 03:18, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Ollie231213 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Longevity#Motion:_Longevity_.28August_2015.29 :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Ollie231213's conduct at various AFD discussions is bordering into uncivil territory with numerous personal attacks. There has been numerous circular and odd policy debates that Ollie has created and required for months, few of which has improved anyone else's experience here.

December 4, 2015 "Legacypac, I'm sorry that you don't have basic critical thinking or research skills"]
December 4, 2015 Statement that "Not every bit of information in every source has to have citations. The original research has to be done somewhere." shows a fundamental misunderstanding of policy here.
August 2015 RFC Extensively long RFC arguing whether the GRG should get its own treatment as some "super reliable" source shows again problems with policy understanding.
November 3, 2015 "And again, why don't you try educating yourself on the subject at hand." as part of the extensively long RFC about whether to include succession boxes in longevity biographies.

Evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

Ollie communicated at the motion to request reinstatement of discretionary sanctions and Talk:Yukichi Chuganji is using Template:WikiProject World's Oldest People which automatically includes a sanctions notice on the page. Ollie also extensively communicates at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject World's Oldest People which has the same notice.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

I simply think the editor would benefit from working away from WOP article and away from the flaws there. These repeated AFDs are getting heated (which isn't Ollie's fault) but at least a warning and a discussion would be helpful.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested: Diff

Discussion concerning Ollie231213

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Statement by Ollie231213

Firstly, I apologise for being uncivil in a couple of instances. However, please understand my frustration when being faced by pro-deletion arguments which are based on both a poor understanding of the subject in hand and Wikipedia policy. The post I was replying to is a deletion argument which is original research and contains false assertions. Note that other users have challenged similar comments from Legacypac elsewhere.

Secondly, point number 2 is a misinterpretation of what I meant. I meant that not every bit of information in the sources themselves has to have citations, not the information in Wikipedia.

Thirdly, Ricky was an involved editor in the RFC mentioned above, and actually, in that discussion I argued that not all sources should be given the same weight, in accordance with WP:NPOV and WP:UNDUE. -- Ollie231213 (talk) 21:43, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment What Legacypac means when he says I "oppose and reverse efforts to simplify X/Y/Z", what he actually means is that I oppose and reverse efforts made BY HIM to make drastic changes to articles which he did NOT discuss on any talk pages first. Furthermore, WP:SBSGUIDE clearly states that succession boxes can be used for records, which is why I reverted the edits made by another user who decided to remove succession boxes from a number of articles. A subsequent RfC discussion on the matter showed that opinion was quite divided. To try and use this to show that I don't understand Wiki policy is quite ridiculous. Note that Legacypac has made previous unfair accusations of WP:BADFAITH against me. -- Ollie231213 (talk) 00:20, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Legacypac

This topic is overburdened by lists that slice and dice super old people. As things are now structured, a man born in Warsaw who moved to the US should be listed on pages for Poland, Austria-Hungary, Europe, North America, US, oldest people, top 10 men, living or not living, US state, and maybe 10 other places. There are not enough editors interested in maintaining the lists, or who know how they all fit together. This editor opposes and reverses efforts to simplify [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] and so on.

He also fails to understand the appropriate use of Succession boxes, WP:SBSGUIDE the most important point being "2. Simply because a record has been earned does not merit a succession box for that record. Succession boxes for records should only regard records that are part of a series (for example, not all Guinness Book records deserve a succession box)." Ollie reversed efforts to comply with the guidelines [8] by reverting User:DerbyCountyinNZ 44 times on Oct 23 on 44 pages. See [9]. Legacypac (talk) 20:43, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reply Ollie correctly notes he opposes my efforts (and those of all other editors) to clean up and simplify coverage of super old people, regardless of the argument used, facts of the case, or who is suggesting the changes. If the coverage is not expanding into never ending lists, articles,and minute details on super old people you can count on Ollie to be there to oppose it. Legacypac (talk) 00:56, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Result concerning Ollie231213

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

WP:ACDS specifically states that participating at WP:AE and WP:RFAR counts as awareness for policy purposes. I would think that since WP:ARCA is a subpage of WP:RFAR, that would qualify. I will add a proper alert notice to this editor's talk page in any case. Gamaliel (talk) 15:38, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah they are "aware" with the comment at ARCA. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 14:40, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Full Protection --->via the ARB to exercising its defined Discretionary Powers regarding Electronic Cigarettes.

Closed by request of the author. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:29, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

I am asking for a Full Protection premised upon the outcome of the last ARB, and that uninterested editors would be reviewing, and discretionary actions would be available as a product of those ARBs

Full details are found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Electronic_cigarette#Request_for_Full_Protection_---.3Evia_the_ARB_to_exercising_its_defined_Discretionary_Powers_reflected.2Fasserted_in_the_posted_ALERT

If there is an alternative approach please tell me. My method seemed correct, efficient and expedient. Thank you Mystery Wolff (talk) 17:37, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A logical approach of course would be to remove the cause of the disruption.--TMCk (talk) 17:54, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Gamaliel:, the premise of this request is that by delivering the generic Alert to all editors of Electronic Cigarettes, that it created an on going obligation to have people revisit to determine if further action is needed. I this body won't pick up my plea for action, I just need to be told that. Here in a nutshell is the most compelling reason for my request for the Admins to take up a Full Protection of the page.(broadly defined). S Marshall states quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AElectronic_cigarette&type=revision&diff=694133819&oldid=694129808

(Partial sequential quote, please see original source)I have described my intentions on this talk page on a number of occasions previously, but this may have been before you started editing. I intend to rewrite this article so that it's accessible to a schoolchild -- a vulnerable person who's heard of e-cigarettes and is considering taking a puff. This is the kind of person who is likely to be turning to Wikipedia for information. Everyone else here has heard me say this.
At the moment the article is written for and accessible to people with college degrees who make decisions for a living.
No, I am not going to submit each of my changes to the Article Edit Approval Committee on the talk page before I make them. I fought a four month Arbcom case so that I wouldn't have to do that. It's needless and bureaucratic. I do intend to discuss each controversial change on the talk page.

The above is a clear POV, a clear agenda, and clearly wanting to take over the entire page. IT IS VERY CLEAR. I am asking this body to enforce the sanctions required of it. When an ALERT is given, it must not be abandoned. The words of S Marshall are exceptional and remarkable. He is going to craft his very own advocacy handout, and use Wikipedia as his publisher. He is asserting that content needs to be removed to appeal to his target audience. This is simply outrageous. If you won't act PLEASE tell me. I think this is a consequence of ARB interplay....and the ARB can take it under their own impetus. You are however notified. Thank you. Mystery Wolff (talk) 08:15, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Spartaz: Can you look at this? You closed out a ARB case on S Marshall via the topic ban of QuackGuru. The case was stopped on the premise that QuackGuru originated the case on S Marshall. Afterwards an Alert was posted. I am asking for Full Protection of the article. I am asking that it be done via the ARB you are named on. I believe a review of the latest from the talk pages will show you way, but I can respond to questions. If this is not a method to use....please tell me and I will work on it elsewhere. Why it should be done by the ARB, is because of the imbalance that ARB created and what is a blizzard of edits with POV agendas. No can help? Please just tell me. @Gamaliel: has not been responding, and I do not know why. reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive185#Result_concerning_S_Marshall Mystery Wolff (talk) 23:12, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mystery Wolff

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Request concerning Mystery Wolff

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: AlbinoFerret (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 18:26, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Mystery Wolff (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Editor conduct in e-cigs articles#4.3.2 :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

[12/3/2015 Disruptive talk page section on other editors.
[[10] 12/6/2015] Disruptive talk page section on other editors.
[[11] 12/5/1015] Disruptive talk page section on other editors.
12/6/2015 Wholesale reverts to stop article improvement
12/6/2015 Wholesale reverts to stop article improvement

If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on 11/29/2015

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Mystery Wolf is an WP:SPA. All of this editors edits save one have been in the topic or closely related [12]. This new editor which started editing November 11th has a good grasp of wikipedia syntax even being able to ping other users. Knew what was proper for the lede of an article within two days and used the "lede" spelling [13]. Within 4 days of starting knew the best format for a reference. [14] Has become protectionist over QuackGuru's edits and the specific wording used and understands "undue weight" a very experienced concept. [15] [16] His editing times match up pretty well when comparing his and QG both not editing after 14:00 and starting again about 22:00 UTC. Has opened multiple talk page section in an effort to stop improvement of the article and keep edits in place from QuackGuru [17][18][19] These sections have disrupted the articles talk page. Mystery Wolff has been informed of he correct DS locations [20][21][22] and was even offered to have a section started for them if they lacked the knowledge to do so. [23] But has continued to disrupt the page [24] instead of seeking DS.

Since the possibility of sockpuppets was brought up in the e-cig case, and seeing the advanced knowledge of Mystery Wolff a checkuser is requested. In any event if not a sock they are a disruptive SPA and should be stopped from adding to the disruption.AlbinoFerret 18:26, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Gamaliel There have been no other sanctions against this user, I have removed the section. I have also removed all of the other ways of notifying except the one that is applicable and has a date/diff. AlbinoFerret 14:03, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsindian and S Marshaall. One things concerns me is the amount of knowledge Mystery Wolff has of the events long before his editing. "UK sockpuppets sniffed out" [25] refers to the investigation of FergusM1970 [26] how a new editor found this information is a very curious question. AlbinoFerret 20:34, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to point out that Mystery Wolff has changed the name of this section.[27]AlbinoFerret 14:10, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

12/8/2015 Mystery Wolff removes tags calling them vandalism [28] when the tags are replaced, removes them again [29] Assumes bad faith on the talk page in relation to the tags.[30] Misapplication of vandalism and citing it as an excuse instead of its purpose. Since he assumes they are going to be deleted, how can this be vandalism? AlbinoFerret 23:42, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Spartaz Mystery Wolff has not stopped editing, just slowed down. They made an edit to the talk page today, that is borderline ABF. [31] AlbinoFerret 19:38, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mystery Wolff continues his ABF off topic posts, this one on a specific edit. It looks like he is not going to oppose anything S Marshall proposes from the wording of this post. [32] AlbinoFerret 14:37, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I still believe that it is possible that Mystery Wolff is a sock of some kind. This post [33] shows advanced opinions, not something that is normal in an editor with a month or less of editing. AlbinoFerret 01:33, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested: diff

Discussion concerning Mystery Wolff

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Statement by Mystery Wolff

Archived to address feedback by Gamaliel below Mystery Wolff (talk) 10:37, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Archived to address 2nd feedback by Gamaliel below. (All the points remain valid) Mystery Wolff (talk) 20:52, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Text archived for TLDR concerns. Mystery Wolff (talk) 09:44, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To the specific allegations. All of which DO NOT explain how there is any Violation. A requirement. That alone should kick it out.

1. This is a talk page talking about the ALERT, edits, how to proceed, forming consensus. Besides asserting TLDR I do not understand the issue.
2. This a section where I responded to a direct question from EdJohnston. I responded, he ASKED me to wind it down....I did, we agreed to collapse the section. What is the issue?
3. Exactly the same as #2. Its already collapsed. Am I to guess how these edits in TALK violate anything?
4. This is a revert I did. Here is the exact edit summary "(Undid revision 693989905 by S Marshall (talk) Wordsmithing is changing the context improperly. Poor grammar on rewordings. Agree on removal of Drug items however, just not in a slew of others)" ---- I stand by that, I DO NOT SEE ANY ISSUE? What did I do wrong, per AlbinoFerret??????
5. Same as above, but with this Edit summary "(Undid revision 693990051 by S Marshall (talk) Edits change the context and importance of the citations, replaced with the POV of the editor, with undue weights. REVERTED)" It removed the citation source "The Report states" and replaces it as fact, and then does other dilutive edits
Mystery Wolff (talk) 23:01, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reboot:

I am unclear on the ongoing process of this AE. Of the 5 objections, I have responded to all 5. I done everything in order to not push changes into the LIVE page, and was careful to not edit war. Because an editor can edit 10+ times a day, and another only revert 2, an aggressive editor can push the article. While this may be an option for all, and perhaps the feedback to me just to BOLDly edit the live page, I refrained and kept my dialogue in the Talk pages, in order to have a stable LIVE page. Here is an example of some of the changes that were started in the LIVE page and moved back to talk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Electronic_cigarette#Smoking_cessation I have nothing to do with QuackGuru. I am not a sockpuppet as EdJohnston required I respond to in the TALK page, and which AlbinoFerret is asserting here in this complaint. As Popeye will attest, I am what I am and that's all I am. I believe I have addressed the concerns, but perhaps there is a process I am not aware of? Immediately after I asked for Full Protection in TALK, (taking up EdJohnston's suggestion in TALK), this AE was noticed to me on my Talk page by AlbinoFerret. The section above this subsection is that request. As it seems that request will not get attention in this venue, please collapse it. What else is required for this process. What else can I answer? (ping in reply) Mystery Wolff (talk) 10:19, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Upon reading the most recent updates in involved administrator's section, I do want to clarify. I do accept feedback. I have not stopped editing. After my last post in this AE section I spent 4 hours on Dec 9 updating the Article. The edits were reasoned, and researched, with detailed explanations within edit summary. None has been reverted. The logic was simply not be afraid, edit properly.

I have responded to all 5 charges at me here, and the Submitter has not responded to any of them. Its been alleged that I am a sockpuppet in this AE, without any investigation and with ongoing innuendo.

There is an old saying after baseless charges. "Where do I go to get my good name back?" I do not want to see this case closed to be in the pocket of ANY specific administrator. I already had AlbinoFerret, come on my talk page, warn me he would open an AE, talked about WP boomerangs, and then opened this AE. I believe there should be a determination, because if not the AE process will not be of use.

I can answer more questions, I can back up my actions, I will take feedback. But I don't want concerns about me being flushed onto an Admins Talk page. That is not what all the WP process information links say should be done.

I again ask this case be closed as false, and unwarranted. Go ahead and investigate, ask AlbinoFerret to respond to my replies. Administrators should not resolve it temporary, by asking for their talk pages to be part of a new process.

Please disposition the AE, close it. I want my good name back. What other information can I provide? Mystery Wolff (talk) 11:36, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This AE asserts I am a sockpuppet, and other false items, nonetheless, I have taken feedback I have heard here, specifically to TLDR, not using a previous ARB decision to be the basis of a new request (re:Full Protection), letting various process proceed without pushing...as well as other feedback learned from. All the complaints (if not all nearly all) have been regarding the TALK page. That is no accident. I have been BOLDly editing TALK to the favor of protecting the live page from wild swings of content and only doing proper edits, I believe that is correct process. I can address any of my actions, explain any of my edits, but what I see is a constant flow of items from the requester AlbinoFerret being folded in. I can not keep up with the charges and innuendo...if AlbinoFerret still thinks I am a sockpuppet, it should be searched, if he does not....it should be withdrawn out of this AE. I can no keep up with each of my actions being accused of being AE worthy, and posted here-----> I will wait Admin direction on what I need to do next, or respond to, or do (if anything). Thank you. Mystery Wolff (talk) 00:50, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to AlbinoFerret's newest assertions: I continue to edit properly, my edits are reviewed and modified by others and let stand. Some of the reviews are by people who have duties in WikiMedical Projects. An inquisitive mind should not be subject to an Inquisition. I have read ARBs related EC article. They are very long. I learn from reading. While Wikipedia is likely the most successful and broadest collaborative writing system ever. It is not the only one, and WP has lot of directions to read. You have to read them because acronyms are tossed around terribly, but they are at least hyperlinked. I happen to be 100% sure I am not a sock. There are 4 allegations because one is circular pointing to this very AE page. This AE is regarding a general unspecific (generic) Alert to all editors of the Article. Even regarded as assumed worse case, those edits do not violate the Alert.
To the statement of S Marshall, he alleges he has written to my talk page once, and was not responded to. That is not the case. As he says I archived it, I do not understand how he can represent that error. Here is that archived exchange, which also features the originator of this AE, AlbinoFerret.. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMystery_Wolff&type=revision&diff=693096640&oldid=692975946 The message was for me to not edit until QuackGuru was banned. Something that S Marshall was sure would occur. I referenced an ARB that I read, (this is on the 28th) which should explain some of the reasons why I know things, vs sockpuppet allegations because I benefit from that reading. I reply, S Marshal replies again. And then AlbinoFerret echos S Marshall hand in hand, that I wait for QuackGuru to be banned. QuackGuru is banned, and being uncomfortable with the entire exchange I archive it. This AE was started in response to my asking for Full Protection of the article. My edits to the article remain unchallenged except for one revert regarding tagging controverted 10+ times, is the Smoke Cessation section, which S Marshall is currently asking for drastic changes to. Why S Marshall knew that administrators would ban QuackGuru I do not know.
The 29th was a very active day. AlbinoFerret posted on my Talk page about MEDRS, QuackGuru jumped onto that, I noticed that QuackGuru is asserting I am sockpuppet on SMcCandlish Talk page(an involved participant of the Alert being cited in this AE) , as well as strategizing with QuackGuru on the ARB. I post on SMcCanlish's talk informing them both that I am not SockPuppet. SMcCandlish asserts that he did not say that. Then SMcCandlish requested to Lankiveil TALK that the Alert be posted on my Talk page, and L235 did the follow-through on my Talk. In SMcCandlish request to Lankiveil he asserts I am sockpuppet etc. Sockpuppet again is the basis of this complaint by AlbinoFerret. Ultimately EdJohnston requires I answer the sockpuppet, how you know that, questions in the TALK page itself, which I do. After that ackward self defense I was required to do on the TALK page, it goes to this AE. EdJohnston congizant that ARTICLE edits are not in question, and only TALK items which he was directly involved with...SUGGESTS to All other Admins in the "uninvolved admin section", that I get banned for 6 months, without any basis. To which perhaps I should cower. References provided upon request, I am not embellishing. If admins want to know why I looked up things...its because THESE are the FIRST THINGS being put on my Talk page. I hope there is no rule about required to be happy about being halled into an AE.
@AlbinoFerret: please complete whatever your AE request is, finalize it, you can not update the request daily. Mystery Wolff (talk) 12:28, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by S Marshall

We don't know if this editor is a single-purpose account or not yet. He has ~150 edits and has had his account for a couple of weeks. On the one hand, it might not seem necessary to open an AE request because this editor has pinged everyone in arbcom and everyone who's tried enforcing. Twice now. I think we can assume the AE sysops already have this on the radar.

But on the other hand I do think this is a good idea. He clearly has an issue with me personally, and he needs to be given a forum to express that in. This venue is a better place than Talk:Electronic cigarette, so let's make this a welcoming place for him and encourage him to make all his points in full right here.—S Marshall T/C 19:00, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Will it be in order for me to respond to Mystery Wolff here? This might spark a back-and-forth discussion that isn't normal at AE, but I hope the AE sysops will indulge that for the time being. He and I haven't actually had the conversations about this which experienced editors would have before we get to arbitration enforcement; in fact he's never edited User talk:S Marshall and my only edit to User talk:Mystery Wolff was archived without comment.
On a personal level I don't think that Mystery Wolff is a sockpuppet or a new incarnation of a banned editor. I find his floundering with process and appeals to authority to be authentic and convincing for someone who's unaccustomed to Wikipedia. It's authentic for someone who's accustomed to academic rigour in writing and having some personal authority over how material is edited.
If this was QuackGuru returned, then he would know how it always ends when people with three weeks' editing history appeal to authority for help managing established editors' behaviour. QG was always canny with process and he has zero history of sockpuppetry. I'm sure this isn't him. Mystery Wolff wants to discuss what I'm doing and analyse it; he wants this to happen before I'm allowed to do it; and he asks for this as if it was perfectly normal and natural. This is an academic writer who expects to be in charge. Education rather than enforcement is the answer here.—S Marshall T/C 18:33, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I take it back. This editor is making several accusatory posts about me every day, full of bizarre allegations about my so-called "agenda" and he won't speak to me directly. I can't work with him.—S Marshall T/C 08:43, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by uninvolved Kingsindian

I have absolutely no opinion on the underlying dispute, but I agree with S Marshall that this doesn't look like a sock of an experienced user. It looks like an overenthusiastic new user. It is not surprising that some editor who knows about the topic will find a ton of things wrong with a Wikipedia article, and try to fix them all at once. Hell, this is my normal feeling whenever I see any article about which I have nonzero knowledge.

I see too many walls of text, but a basically good faith discussion in the talk page section. A lot of the section is simply them being confused by Wikipedia bureaucracy. The basic point is this: the edits by S Marshall were consequential, and it is perfectly proper to object to them, giving reasons. They were not simply copyediting. I would simply remind the editor of WP:AGF. It is more precious than ever in contentious areas, and the key to avoiding many misunderstandings. Also WP:TLDR, which is the iron law of the internet. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 19:53, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gamaliel's statement that they are quarreling with AnomieBOT is incorrect. They are quarreling with the previous edit of S Marshall, which MW reverted in two parts (part1, part2) because AnomieBOT had an intermediate edit. Of course, S Marshall's edit was not vandalism, though it involved a lot of tagging. S Marshall reverted MW's edit providing their justification, and MW did not edit-war over it, but opened a talk page section, where many people actually agreed with MW's position.

More generally, I see the topic ban proposal as WP:BITE. MW's complaints have to do with the pace of editing on the page, which they expressed in confused language and actions due to not being familiar with WP:BURO. Another editor has also expressed the same concern in this section; part of the problem is caused by MW, but partly because the pace of editing was too fast. It is unfortunate that WP:AE is reaching for the ban-hammer because every problem looks like a nail. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 22:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Rhoark

Following the removal of one obstructionist editor from the topic, a deluge of edits began. Mystery saw this as taking unfair advantage of the situation, but its actually the positive outcome that was hoped for. We do not need someone else to take up the obstructionist banner to keep the article from improving too much or too fast. I've looked at SM's edits, and the complaint that he is twisting context doesn't hold water. They're just deconvoluting tortured grammar. There are a few cases where SM regarded grammar as too poor to fix and removed an entire properly-sourced claim. That's throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and I advise SM not to do that. Both sides should better focus on trying to WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM. Rhoark (talk) 15:41, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Tracy Mc Clark

~~In response to Gamaliel: A simple but strict "discuss content, not the editor" with serious consequenses if not followed should do.~~--TMCk (talk) 15:53, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strike as it is clear by now that it won't work.--TMCk (talk) 23:17, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by SPACKlick

It's clear Mystery Wolff's actions are disruptive and that they're not absorbing advice given to them about how to express there concerns, or what venue to do it in. I cannot find one instance of them discussing the content of an edit on a talk page, whether at the article or of an editor, they have simply decided S Marshall should be banned. I still have concerns of some form of Sock/Meat puppetry here given their detailed knowledge of arcane bits of wikipedia but claiming "it's my first day" as an excuse repeatedly for misusing process. MW has been given enough rope and either some firm education or a reprimand is needed. SPACKlick (talk) 09:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Johnbod

Was this notified to the EC talk page? I have only just become aware. Mystery Wolff's editing style, both on the article and talk, is very different from Quack Guru's. His edits to both are rather erratic and not especially helpful most of the time, but on the whole I don't think he should be topic banned. His talk comments are often long, wild, personalized and also rather unclear. Stripped of that, his underlying position is not in itself an extreme one, as far as I can see. I still hope he will calm down and begin to express himself more clearly and concisely. Johnbod (talk) 15:27, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Result concerning Mystery Wolff

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

@AlbinoFerret: The links under "Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any" do not appear to be working. Also a number of links under "If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)" Gamaliel (talk) 05:10, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Mystery Wolff: Your statement does not address the matter at hand. Can you provide something that either addresses the substance of the request against you or explains why this is "an abuse of process" according to Wikipedia policy? Please do not include personal reflections or opinions such as those in your statement above. Gamaliel (talk) 05:16, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is an unorthodox suggestion, but what do other admins think about imposing a daily word limit on the talk page for Mystery Wolff? It seems like only a quarter of the text they post is directly relevant. Gamaliel (talk) 15:33, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be against a complex sanction that might result in further dispute about adherence to the sanction. We should expect that new participants on a difficult topic like Electronic cigarette would be cooperative and diplomatic, and they would be able to express themselves clearly on talk pages. If such a user is inexperienced they should wait to get feedback from others before changing the article. (The combination of aggressive and uninformed can have bad results). It appears that User:Mystery Wolff doesn't meet those expectations. He is likely to use up even more space on admin boards the longer he continues to be active about this. I favor a six-month ban of User:Mystery Wolff from the topic of electronic cigarettes on all pages of Wikipedia. EdJohnston (talk) 19:26, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This editor just got into an argument with AnomieBOT. Wow. Concur with the topic ban. Gamaliel (talk) 21:38, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mystery Wolf - can you please stop misusing the ping function. I have a watchlist and am perfectly capable of noticing if there is something going on that I want to involve myself in. Now that I am here, its pretty clear that Mystery Wolf is disrupting the page with their ongoing demands that the article only be edited in a way that they approve of. I'm not seeing any malice or intent to misbehave, its just that they do not know enough about how this place ticks to understand how to act collaboratively in this high tension area. If this continues or Mystery Wolf cannot accept that they need to learn to how work within our norms then I can't see any alternative to a topic ban but I'd prefer to see Mystery Wolf consider the feedback they are getting here and think about their approach. If we can see a prospect of some improvement I'd be minded to give them a chance to try again. If not, well, I guess our hands are tied. Spartaz ^Humbug! 23:23, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that Mystery Wolff has stopped editing. There probably is no need to enact anything unless he returns and causes further disruption so I'm minded to close this and leave it to affected parties to drop me a note on my talk if there are problems in the future. Spartaz ^Humbug! 10:23, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

JzG

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Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

Request concerning JzG

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Prokaryotes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 14:05, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: JzG (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically_modified_organisms#1RR_imposed
Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically_modified_organisms#Discretionary_Sanctions:

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

16 December 2015 Removes study reference, which is the scope of the article (1RR)
16 December 2015 Removes key info per source, why study was initially retracted (1RR)
14 December 2015 Removes long standing article content without prior discussion (NPOV)
14 December 2015 Removes study reference, which is the scope of the article (NPOV)
15 December 2015 Removes long standing article content without prior discussion, which was used to explain work of BLP. (NPOV)
14 December 2015 Removes mention of award for BLP. (NPOV)

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

Commented on the Arbitration Committee's Final Decision linked to above. Genetically modified organisms case closed / 14 December 2015
Previously, there have been several requests by involved users to add JzG to the Arbitration case linked above. Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically modified organisms
Has received several Arb sanction notifications in the past https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JzG&action=history&tagfilter=discretionary+sanctions+alert

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Admin JzG/Guy, today violated the 1RR remedy (see Difs above). He made highly opinionated comments at the Glyphosate talk page yesterday, states in response to my proposal for content addition, "Ah yes, legislative alchemy, the process by which nonsense becomes science". Glyphosate talk page / 15 December 2015 As mentioned above, other editors have requested his inclusion in the case about Genetically modified organisms for several reason, which can be read on the case page.

Misrepresents source content at talk page RfC Séralini affair 16 December 2015

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:JzG#Arb_enforcement

@JzG Ofc we can begin discussing each single edit, but you are one of the most active editors on GMO articles lately and you primarily focus on removing key infos. Yes the other regular editors support you, but all these RfC are fresh and the one you cite above is very marginal (4v3), and the other you mentioned is like (2v2), depending how you judge the comments. prokaryotes (talk) 16:18, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Only in death There has been no discussion prior to removal of those two reverts for 1RR, and there is certainly no consensus. JzG just reverts, after that i started today in one instance a RfC. prokaryotes (talk) 16:06, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Tryptofish What you call canvassing is in response to JzG posting here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:S%C3%A9ralini_affair#Prokaryotes.27_request_at_AE

@Alexbrn The article about Federation of German Scientists is not about GMO's. Everybody who is interested should take a closer look at the talk page of that article, where another editor called Alexbrn's edits incomprehensible, additional Alexbrn tried to intimidate me on my talk page here. He is also not mentioning that i removed this RfC point he quotes. prokaryotes (talk) 17:32, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Rhoark This Arbcom request is about a 1RR violation, if you think my comments Kingofaces43 linked need attention, then this should be dealt with in a separate venue, not when we discuss the KEY contents of one of the most controversial pages on Wikipedia, where admins and editors (who post also below), remove large quantities of long standing content, and prevent improvements when teaming up. Same goes for Alexbrn's claims. prokaryotes (talk) 17:46, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Parabolist So it is perfectly fine for you when an admin is breaking Arbcom sanctions?

Notice
Editor Kingofaces43, Alexbrn, and to some degree Tryptofish are involved in related page edits.
JzG is canvassing here. prokaryotes (talk) 17:18, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Capeo and Tryptofish point out that i canvass, but they seem to have no problem with that when JzG/Guy does it.
In response to (SPACKlick), i changed the notification, also notice that Tryptofish is concerned about my notice at the Glyphosate talk page, also part of above Difs. prokaryotes (talk) 20:09, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Announcement I retract my request for Arbcom enforcement, since editors are more concerned with my past edits, then actual the DIFS and sanction breach i intended to report. I also have to note that my impression was that Arbcom requests are judged by Arbcom people, not what basically turns out to be the same as over at ANI. prokaryotes (talk) 20:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment in response to editors which ask for enforcement against me

On which grounds do you want me topic banned, care to post some difs? Tryptofish mentioned my conduct, what does this mean, why so vague? Others refer to my talk page post by MastCell, which was a warning. After that I edited the last 2 days at Gilles-Éric Séralini, and Séralini affair. I got often reverted, actually almost all of my edits got challenged, and then i took it to talk page. Also i stopped editing there now, because it is not possible, when i post well sourced content it is removed. Not sure how these articles will look in the future but my impression is that readers will seek other places to find some neutral ground. prokaryotes (talk) 22:04, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Tryptofish, JzG alerted involved editors, i asked for uninvolved editors, JzG reverted his 2nd edit, i retracted my request, yet you only ask for punishment for me. When i edited i basically had do deal with about 4 editors who disagreed with my edits, hence why i created these RFCs. Asking to punish me now based on unrelated past edits, from an entirely different perspective, a different situation, with different editors involved appears more like an effort to remove one of the last editors with a more critical input from GMO articles. prokaryotes (talk) 22:51, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion concerning JzG

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Statement by JzG

The diffs show single reverts. The reverts have not been repeated, and have been discussed on Talk. In each case there have been solid policy-based reasons for removal. There has been no violation of WP:1RR as far as I can tell, just edits made once and followed up on talk. Unless you define a revert as any edit that removes text, however long it's been there? I don't think that's the spirit of the thing, especially since the edits remove different items of text and Talk page discussion unambiguously supports the view that removal is a valid interpretation of WP:PAG.

Re the diffs:

16 December 2015 is the only one I would consider potentially actionable; I removed this source onDec 14 as not supporting the actual text (see below), while supporting its inclusion elsewhere in the article. Prokaryotes reverted that removal on Dec 16 and I reverted the reinsertion. That appears to be the catalyst for this report.
16 December 2015 is not a revert, and my edit has clear consensus on talk as of the time of writing. I rephrased the text to more closely reflect the actual source, this also appears to have support.
14 December 2015 described as "Removes long standing article content without prior discussion (NPOV)" - when discussed on Talk, Minor4th describes this as "fair enough".
14 December 2015 Described as "Removes study reference, which is the scope of the article (NPOV)", this was the link discussed above, which was supporting the wrong text - I have no problem with linking the republished study in the right place, just not to support a fact about its per-review status, which it does not discuss.
15 December 2015 Described as "Removes long standing article content without prior discussion, which was used to explain work of BLP. (NPOV)", Alexbrn says: "I'd ditch the list of articles since we're WP:NOT a bibliography, and particularly not a bibliography of dodgy papers. Any articles that have got sound secondary coverage can be described in the narrative text in the context of that sound coverage"
14 December 2015 Described as "Removes mention of award for BLP. (NPOV)"; this award was cited solely to the awarding body's own website, and there was no evidence of its significance. Now review the subsequent discussion: Alexbrn has now found a reliable independent source that establishes context, and I support any edits Alexbrn makes based ont hat sourcing.

This is not, as Prokaryotes portrays it, a bilateral dispute. In fact Prokaryotes is being reverted by other editors, e.g. Prokaryotes reverts me and Kingofaces43 reverts Prokaryotes.

Example: [34] which removes a redundant quotation to a paper which was inserted as a source for a discussion of the peer-review around the paper, with the content about the peer review cited to a source that actually discusses the peer review. I understand why Prokaryotes wants to reference the study, I have already said on Talk that I fully support its inclusion in the article, but not there. The study itself is simply not an appropriate reference for the text in question: "In June 2014 Séralini republished the article in in the journal Environmental Sciences Europe, which did not conduct any further peer review. Reviewers checked only that the content of the paper matched the retracted original.[ref was here]"

Example: [35] removing text added by Prokaryotes which has been discussed on Talk at [36] with, currently, Prokaryotes supporting his edit, and three editors including me opposing it. In fact I included what is IMO a more neutral statement of the facts which is unquestionably much closer to the original source: [37]

Example: I removed a paragraph discussing a petition to republish the 2012 Séralini paper which was sourced solely to a website set up to host the petition: [38].

The core issues here are WP:PRIMARY and WP:FRINGE. Where I have removed content, it is generally because it is sourced to a primary source, often one whose neutrality is disputed.

Prokaryotes has already raised these concerns on the Talk pages, e.g. [39] and [40] (Prokaryotes now appears to have struck the aggressive third item in this RfC, for which he should receive credit).

When the content is addressed specifically, e.g. [41], it is clear that the case is not, as Prokaryotes characterises it above, tendentious removal of sourced content, but instead a supportable exercise of editorial judgment on which reaosnable peopel may differ.

In summary, then, this is a case where Prokaryotes disputes my content edits, where these edits are discussed on Talk, and where consensus, as much as it can be judged from such small numbers of involved editors, favours my edits and not his.

As per [42], this looks like an attempt to use Wikipedia processes to gain an advantage in a content dispute, by an editor who is currently not prevailing in talk page discussion. Guy (Help!) 15:08, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Minor4th: Are you trying to relitigate the ArbCom case and retrospectively make me a party? What is your opinion of the actual edit diffs that Prokaryotes cites above, removing primary sourced material per WP:PAG and then discussing on Talk? That seems to me to be how Wikipedia is supposed to work: disputed content is removed, discussed on talk, and if agreed, reinserted, potentially with better sourcing. Can you find any examples where I have opposed the reinsertion of content with improved sourcing? Guy (Help!) 15:31, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I stepped back until the end of the case is very simple. I was allowing my inability to communicate effectively with SageRad, to get to me. Hence my subsequent apology to SageRad. After an arbitration case, it is usually time to go back and review the articles and see about fixing any remaining issues. Doing this during the case often just adds fuel to the flames anyway. As to "ideological opponents", I think it would be extremely hard to categorise my ideology with respect to those involved. I am very keen on sound environmental policies, renewable energy, and humane treatment of animals. I support sustainable development and sustainable agriculture, but I oppose the organic movement because it is founded on a fallacy, the appeal to nature, and because it is self-deluded, using "natural" chemicals that are every bit as problematic as the non-"natural" ones, but often less effective so used in larger quantities. I support GMOs because there is no credible evidence of harm and substantial evidence of potential to do good, for example golden rice or pest-resistant varieties that need less spraying. One of my favourite foodstuffs contains a neurotoxin to keep insects at bay. It's not genetically modified, it's coffee. I do have a strong opinion on abuse of science. By industry, by anti-science groups, by "big pharma" and "big herba" alike. I got accused of being a climate change denier in the last couple of days. That's quite funny. Guy (Help!) 18:52, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Prokaryotes: Yes, I often remove stuff. Not just here. One of my pet peeves on Wikipedia is that editing never seems to involve pruning cruft: articles get longer and longer. And in this specific case, every edit is being discussed on Talk and seems to enjoy support. There is nothing wrong with removing text from an article and talking about it. It's what we're supposed to do if article content appears to be poorly sourced. It all gets fixed before the WP:DEADLINE. Guy (Help!) 16:00, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ Tryptofish: I see you are correct. I have self-reverted and tagged it instead: [43]. I will take it to Talk. Guy (Help!) 16:33, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Minor4th

Noting that I warned and notified JzG about the GMO editing restrictions during this same time period, here: [44] and warned him also about his divisive/polarizing comments in the topic area, here: [45]

As mentioned in the OP, many requests were made that JZG be included as a party in the recently-closed case and his poor behavior was commented on by several arbs. Now that the case is closed he appears to be back at the same behavior while other editors are at least attempting to work more collaboratively.

I think a time limited topic ban would be appropriate. Minor4th 15:19, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@JzG:. No Im not trying to relitigate the Arb case, just providing some historical context for the current request. As far as the diffs - I won't comment on whether your edits were "correct" or justified by PAG - that's irrelevant; the point is the case just closed with pretty clear cut editing restrictions, including some topic bans for individual editors, and the purpose is to slow things down in this controversial topic area, yet you have ploughed ahead by removing swaths of sourced content multiple times in multiple articles in the topic area. And you have still been engaging in dialogue that promotes rather than alleviates discord among editors.

While you might "technically" consider your revert streak a single revert (since it took a while for other editors to intervene), making multiple contentious reverts like that without even starting a talk page discussion is something you should have anticipated would stir up more controversy rather than stabilize the content. Your judgment and motives also come into question because you only started this multi-article revert streak after the case closed and when several of your ideological opponents were topic banned. Minor4th 15:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Capeo

Policy based edits, brought to the TP, ~~that never broke 1RR.~~ Why are we here exactly? Capeo (talk) 15:48, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I guess technically there was a 1RR violation today. A minor one I hadn't seen that has been since reverted. Looking at the totality of behavior surrounding the pages in question the only sanction I see necessary would be a TB for ‎Prokaryotes honestly. Capeo (talk) 16:49, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Prokaryotes, just a clarification but this isn't an ArbCom case nor are many Arbs likely even to respond here. AE requests are resolved at the discretion of any uninvolved admin. Capeo (talk) 17:55, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
DrChrissy, even a technical breach of 1RR, let alone 3RR, is not a guarantee of sanctions. Hence Admin discretion. Unless intent to disrupt or a pattern is shown after a self revert the usual course is a warning to be more careful. A 12 month TB is ludicrous. Also, like AN or ANI, the actions of everyone involved are scrutinized. Its not uncommon for the person who requested enforcement to actually be dealt enforcement. Capeo (talk) 18:44, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
DrChrissy, I just realized the articles being discussed here are part of your TB. It might best to steer clear of this subject lest an admin sees this conversation as falling under you TB as well. Capeo (talk) 18:49, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Prokaryotes, I'm pretty sure the way that's worded [46] falls afoul of canvassing.Capeo (talk) 19:06, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In regards to canvassing my view mirrors that of SPACKlick below. Capeo (talk) 20:04, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Only in Death

There is probably a bit of a gap here - the revert rules are fairly rigid in that reverts of different material on the same topic, counts as multiple reverts. However implementing consensus as per talkpage discussion would seem to fall outside of that. Given JzG's edits were in line with the talkpage consensus, I dont think this qualifies under 1rr. (Arguably they are not 'reverting' edits, they are editing in line with consensus to improve the article) Only in death does duty end (talk) 16:01, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Tryptofish

It saddens me to say this, but there is one clear violation of 1RR. These two edits by JzG, [47] and [48], are successive reverts today, with intervening edits by other editors, a little more than an hour apart. They are good edits on the merits, but they violate 1RR, and an experienced admin who was very active in the ArbCom case should be fully aware of the restrictions. The earlier edits cited in the filing statement do not qualify as 1RR violations, as far as I can tell. That said, there is way too much battleground on both sides going on at that page, and I would urge some scrutiny of Prokaryotes as well, starting with the threaded comments here. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:09, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Prokaryotes is also canvassing about this AE: [49]. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:15, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Two notes: (1) Prokaryotes has moved the threaded comments here, after my pointing it out. (2) Alexbrn makes good points about Prokaryotes. An examination of the Proposed Decision in the case shows that the Arbs were divided about whether there should be a topic ban, and the conduct following the case close does indeed seem to me to indicate imposing a topic ban now (perhaps not a site ban as Alexbrn suggested). The topic ban could be worded the same way as those issued to other parties in the case. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:36, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the discussions about canvassing, although it is not the central issue here, let me explain it this way. JzG's statement at the talk page of the article where the reverting took place may come close to canvassing, but does not quite reach it for two reasons: that he was defending himself, and that it was at the talk page where the reverts were actually being discussed. In contrast, Prokaryote's notice was at a talk page of a different page, so it was not simply made as part of an existing discussion, and when Prokaryotes said this here, that is an outright admission that the intent was to attract editors who disagree with JzG. I note that JzG acknowledges his 1RR mistake and has taken measures to correct it, whereas Prokaryotes is maintaining a posture of denying his own mistakes, and appears not to be "getting it". --Tryptofish (talk) 20:19, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would be very disappointed if this AE were to be closed with no action simply because Prokaryotes has realized that there is a boomerang heading his way. As for JzG, I'm willing to accept that he has acknowledged and corrected the 1RR, and there is no need for a serious action, but he also needs to understand loud and clear that admins in particular should not allow themselves to be in such situations to begin with, and that any repeat will not be tolerated by the community. But as for Prokaryotes, enough is enough. ArbCom came very close to enacting a topic ban, but dropped the ball. If AE is now going to drop the ball too, it will be the editing community that suffers. As soon as the ArbCom case opened, Prokaryotes largely disappeared from editing. As soon as the case closed, he returned with a vengeance, and has resumed his previous conduct. Even in trying to withdraw, there has been zero acknowledgment by Prokaryotes that he understands the concerns about his conduct. He just says that he does not want scrutiny directed at him. If the admins here are going to be so negligent that you just say, well the OP withdrew it, so let's close it, then you are failing appallingly. There are DS in effect. Enforce those DS! For goodness' sake, don't just drop this back in the community's lap. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:03, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see Prokaryotes has asked that I and others should link to evidence. Having just finished the ArbCom case, I have a sense of "been there, done that", but in addition to what has already been talked about in this AE (including but not limited to the recent editing history at Séralini affair), which already includes numerous diffs and links from many other editors, I will at least link to [50] and [51]. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:34, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by uninvolved Kingsindian

I have absolutely no knowledge and no opinion about the content. But I know that it is very easy to break WP:1RR, even by mistake. In WP:ARBPIA, the common practice is to warn others that they have broken WP:1RR, and only if they refuse to self-revert, bring them to WP:AE. My own practice is to self-revert if asked, no matter what the merits of the complaint. I simply perform the edit 24 hours later (assuming there is talk page consensus etc.) Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 16:17, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (SPACKlick)

Was called to this topic by RFC and was surprised at the level of battleground displayed by Prokaryote on the talk page when I spotted this Arb. Technically JZG has violated 1RR today, although the edits themselves should not be seen as problematic. I think a WP:Boomerang should be heading back at Prokaryote, however. In light of his POV issues, threaded comments on this page and battleground. SPACKlick (talk) 16:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to Dr Chrissy, While I fully agree that "Technical", "Stale", "consensus" and "minor" are not mitigations for a breach of 1RR they should be seen as factors used in discretion of the sanction. As you seem to think that pointing out that the major problem in the article is with the proposer here rather than the "accused" is a distraction, I'll put my POV in plain text. JZG should receive a short topic ban for breach of 1RR, somewhere in the region of 24hrs to 7 days with a warning that further breaches will lead to 6-12month length bans. However once that sanction is in place I also encourage the admins to look at Prokaryote in this matter. Please don't act in bad faith and suggest people are saying Prokaryote is a problem just to protect JZG. Maybe they're saying it because Prokaryote appears to them to be a problem. SPACKlick (talk) 19:04, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On Canvassing. I don't believe JZG is canvassing. JZG notified the relevant talk page that a complaint was filed against him for actions nder discussion of that page. Prokaryotes however was canvassing now involved editors discuss the topic banning of me, not even bothering to judge the actual 1RR violation. The issues evolves around one of the most controversial pages on Wikipedia, and is at its heart about neutrality and verifiability of content. Therefore i invite all Wikipedians to participate and give some feedback, thanks. Spinning the issue in a specific way, seeking specific replies. To Quote WP:Canvassing In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions...canvassing which is done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way is considered inappropriate. SPACKlick (talk) 19:57, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Alexbrn

Since Prokaryotes narrowly avoided sanction by Arbcom their behaviour, which should have been cautious, has been the opposite. For example, in my interactions with this editor within the last 2 days I have seen them:

Launch an RfC at Talk:Séralini affair which invites participants to decide "Should Arbcom enforce discretionary sanctions for admin JzG".
Focus on me personally when we should be discussing content: ("What you doing here is to try to remove editors from editing this article, because you think this article is yours. WP:OWNBEHAVIOR Btw. Do you have any conflict of interest when editing these pages?") - a reprise of the "are you a shill?" tactic at the root of the Arbcom case.
Seriously propose truth-out.org as a reliable source for GMO content.

And in the light of the complaint here, ironically:

Violate the 1RR ban on GMO-related topics by twice reverting GMO-related content at Federation of German Scientists.[52][53] I warned Prokaryotes of this here in case they wanted to self-revert (which opportunity was declined).

I think the community's patience must surely by now exhausted, and propose an indefinite site ban for Prokaryotes is the only solution that seems likely to bring relief. Alexbrn (talk) 16:26, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Responses to comments in other sections

@Prokaryotes says above of the 1RR violation "The article about Federation of German Scientists is not about GMO". In fact, both edits concern Gilles-Éric Séralini, a central figure of the GMO controversy. Alexbrn (talk) 17:09, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Kingofaces43

Accusations against Guy are largely stale at this point. The minor 1RR violation has been self-reverted 3 hours after the edit.[54] Nothing more than a warning was needed in the first place given the context of edits as Kingsindian and Tryptofish describe above. If it were a blatant revert war over the same content, that would be more of a serious problem.

Prokaryotes is starting to look like the backbone of this current issue. What has happened here is the exact kind of gaming of 1RR Guy responded to that was cautioned against during the case where editor 1 adds controversial content, editor 2 reverts, and editor 1 adds more controversial content unopposed in something of a WP:BLUDGEON fashion. A drafting arb specifically mentioned they intended the discretionary sanctions to deal with edit warring situations like this.[55].

That being said, Prokaryotes behavior really does need a look in the context of this issue. Earlier, MastCell specifically warned Prokaryotes they would personally topic ban them under discretionary sanctions for a litany of behavior issues described here. It doesn't appear MastCell has been online during these new events, so I would encourage admins to read MastCell's "final warning" remembering that Prokaryotes was one vote short of being topic banned themselves.[56] Kingofaces43 (talk) 17:05, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In response to AlbinoFerret's comment below that "both should be warned that this is the last chance to stop . . .", Prokaryotes was already given their final warning as described above before the incident. Most of the issues described with Prokaryotes so far are independent of Guy's actions, so it's rather inappropriate in this case to say Prokaryotes is just reacting to Guy. Kingofaces43 (talk) 20:34, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Rhoark

I'm only seeing only a content dispute here, but content positions can be part of a disruptive pattern. Regarding the content,

Séralini's is unavoidably a necessary point of view regarding the Séralini affair, and must be represented according to NPOV.
Primary sources, even biased primary sources are not a bright line criteria for removal. All else being equal, better sources are preferable to worse sources, but if a necessary PoV is present in reliable sources of any kind, you use the best of what you have.
While representing the view, we must avoid undue quantity or credence in our coverage. Per WP:ONEWAY there would be less leeway if were were discussing glyphosate or genetically modified organism, but some removed content was not excessive in quality or credence given the context in articles on the controversy or the man himself.
It does not seem necessary or desirable to cite Séralini in addition to Nature regarding the retraction, unless citing Séralini separately for a claim that differ's from Nature's account.
What JzG calls "special pleading", I'd call WP:HOWEVER. Qualifications about the reasons for retraction have a place, if properly sourced, but not as a parasite on another sentence.
An award body is primary regarding the award itself, but secondary about the recipient and his work. It's functioning in this case more in the latter role. The Federation of German Scientists should itself be regarded as more qualified to confer notability than most news outlets, but the award did receive significant media attention in Germany.[57] Per NPOV, it should be noted that that attention was largely negative.

The violation of 1RR should be noted, but not dwelled upon. It doesn't seem to be a locus of actual disruption or necessary preventive intervention. If anything in this might be construed as disruptive, its overreach in using WP:PRIMARY as a reason to removed cited claims. There's just not enough here to construe it as a pattern of disruption when backed only by vague insinuation about prior behavior. I'm not familiar with JzG's or Prokaryotes' history in the topic, which others seem to believe is pertinent. If that history is going to be part of the discussion at all, it needs to be backed with diffs. Rhoark (talk) 17:14, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MastCell's collection of diffs as linked by Kingofaces43 above seems to me like enough evidence to topic ban Prokaryotes on the basis of personalizing disputes. Rhoark (talk) 17:32, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Sir Joseph

Allow me to be a grouch here, but as was pointed out a few times, there was a 1RR violation. Whether or not the other user is an evil editor is yet to be determined and ARBCOM can take up that case as well. What we have here, again, is an administrator about to get away with violating Wikipedia policies. While it may seem trivial, especially in this case, an admin has to be editing above and beyond. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 17:40, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston,I was blocked for 24 hours for violating 1RR without knowing about it. If you look at the logs, and on my talk page Archive 2, my block was done the exact same time as the DS notice was placed on my talk page. I was not given a chance, nor was I even given the notice that there are sanctions in place. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 04:46, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by DrChrissy

It is quite clear (per, e.g. Tryptofish, Minor4th, Capeo, etc) that 1RR has been breached. Suggestions that this might be "technical", "stale" or "minor" in some mitigatory way are distractions and should be ignored completely. 1RR should be viewed in the same way as 3RR and we do not describe 4 reverts as "minor". Similarly, the fact that the illegal edits might have consensus has absolutely no bearing whatsoever - if this were the case, an editor could make 20 edits on a 1RR page and expect to get away with it as long as they had consensus. The rule has been broken and the editor must take full responsibility for their actions. This is even more so because the editor is an admin. I support Minority4th's proposal that there should be a time limited topic ban related to the locus of the ArbCom case. I suggest this time is 12 months, to be consistent with the remedies already issued during the ArbCom case.

I further suggest that the suggestions of any sanctions against the OP are treated as deliberate distractions by supporters of JzG. Let's deal with the main issue here which is a clear breach of ArbCom's decision.DrChrissy ^(talk) 18:28, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by AlbinoFerret

I agree with the assessment of Sir Joseph. Admins should be held to a higher standard of behaviour. JzG is aware of the case having participated in the case. They should be aware of the restrictions. They have violated the restrictions. In addition the large removal of material from articles under the restrictions without discussing said removal beforehand is a questionable move for an admin to make so soon after the closing of the case. This deserves a look at by those deciding this section and possible consequences. I will also point out to JzG that your statement is more than double the 500 word limit. AlbinoFerret 19:06, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In response to Tryptofish's plea. As someone who is uninvolved in editing in this area I see two editors behaving in questionable ways. One is an admin who should know better, and the other is an editor reacting to the questionable actions ~~of said admin~~. Two wrongs never make a right, and focusing in on one and not the other, offering a slap on the wrist to one and a sledge hammer to the other is inappropriate. It smells of winning a content dispute on the noticeboards by favouring one side who shares a point of view. IMHO the arbs made a mistake and JzG got off on a technicality (one they created), and Prokaryotes scraped by a sanction by the skin of his teeth. Since the admins here are thrust into the role of parent having to teach the two wrongs dont make a right lesson they should do what most parents do. So, IMHO, there is a choice in which way to go in teaching that lesson, both should be warned that this is the last chance to stop this senseless, useless, and time consuming drain on the project and start to work together, or both of them end up topic banned and end the senseless, useless, and time consuming drain on the project once and for all where it concerns them. Focusing in one one or the other is a mistake. AlbinoFerret 20:17, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Striking and adding, still reacting to questionable battleground edits. While Prokaryotes may have been warned before, JzG is an admin and should be held to a higher behaviour standard. As I see it, its a wash on warnings/expectations. So perhaps its best to just topic ban them both if further warning isnt an option. AlbinoFerret 20:54, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I will also point out to any admin, anything that has happened before the close of the GMO case is stale. The arbs judged on it and found what they have found. To keep revisiting old evidence that has been gone over by the highest level of DS is wrong when done at a lower level. If those who present old evidence think there is a issue that was not examined they should be directed to WP:ARCA. AlbinoFerret 22:39, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Parabolist

As an editor new to the area, having seen some of the conflict spill over into noticeboards over the last couple days, it is my opinion that this is a boomerang scenario, regardless of any "sides" to this. More so than anyone else that I've seen posting on these pages, prokaryotes seems to consider this a battleground, and their editing inflames tension rather than encouraging collaborative editing. Also, the insistence on turning every single minor edit request into an RFC before even seeking any comments on the talk page seems at the very least exhausting, at worst tendentious. Parabolist (talk) 20:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Ultraexactzz

OK, so I see the 1RR violation, and I see that it was self-reverted here. I don't do much at AE, but don't we generally forgive and forget where the editor in question has self-reverted? I see other editors suggest as much, above, and that is my recollection as well. Of the accusations above, that was the only even slightly credible one - and it's already been addressed. I defer to the closing admin on this one, but I very nearly closed it with nothing more than a trout to JzG to be more careful.

Also, No recommendation on sanctions against Prokaryotes - but taking a break from this topic area would be a wise decision on their part, I believe. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 21:08, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edit: As this has been withdrawn by Prokaryotes (here), there seems to be no further complaint against JzG. I'd recommend that this be closed. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 21:17, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Looie496

If this sort of behavior continues I am going to recommend topic bans for both JzG and Prokaryotes. The close of the ArbCom case was followed immediately by the resumption of battleground behavior by multiple parties. I'm afraid admins are going to have to show that they are prepared to intervene decisively in order to stop it. These two are the worst offenders, and their behavior is especially egregious because both received negative attention in the ArbCom case -- Prokaryotes barely escaped without a topic ban. But it isn't just them: we have seen edit-warring at glyphosate that required page protection. GregJackP (talk · contribs) placed a "retired" banner on his talk page, but then popped up immediately after the close of the case to participate in an edit war and template one of the involved editors. This sort of behavior will continue as long as editors think they can get away with it. Looie496 (talk) 13:31, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Serialjoepsycho

I'm not sure this should be closed even with the withdrawal. I notice that JzG was requested as a party to a recent ARBCOM case is some how relevant to this discussion. This among other things puts me in the mind of this being an attempt to game the sanctions process to serve a vendetta.I think admins should take time to review if this is the case here, if at the very least to give a warning. -Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 17:38, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Result concerning JzG

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Per this edit the submitter, User:Prokaryotes, is asking to withdraw this complaint. User:JzG broke the 1RR but has since self-reverted. The statement by Ultraextactzz is also worthy of attention. I recommend this be closed with no action. JzG should be aware that 1RRs need to be enforced, so sooner or later people will have to dial down the speed of their changes, regardless of their good intentions. EdJohnston (talk) 21:52, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DrChrissy

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User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Only in death (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:19, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[58]

Opening a discussion on a third parties talkpage canvassing them to edit on their behalf in violation of their topic ban. Clearly not covered under WP:BANEX.

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DrChrissy is well aware of what is and is not allowed when topic banned. See discussions related to this here, here and here. Despite this being explained in various ways, DrChrissy still does not get it. While I do not consider the appeal to Jimbo a violation (as it would be an appeal under BANEX) it does illustrate the point that DrChrissy cannot drop the stick.

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User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Kingofaces43 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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1RR violation at Precautionary principle

Also previously engaged in single reverts here[60][61] and here[62] after previously having their content removed and being told they need to use the talk page to reach consensus per WP:BRD and not revert further. Notification of 1RR occurred after this specific incident, but before the Dec 18 reverts.

Genetically modified organism

Content added by them removed,[63] but they revert back in.[64] Removed by a second editor[65] and reinserted again in the same 24 hour period.[66]

General edit warring

Genetically modified food controversies

Makes controversial change to say there is no scientific consensus on GMOs, is reverted and asked to come to talk page.[67] Reverts again anyways.[68]

Another case of adding content[69], being reverted[70], and simply reverting back[71] instead of trying to reach consensus at the talk page.

Regulation of the release of genetically modified organisms

Adds content that is removed [72]. Immediately reverts it back in.[73]

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The overall problem with this editor is that they add controversial content, and when they are reverted specifically asking them to go to the talk page and not revert, they revert anyways. This has been a common trend in all their recent edits in the last few days. Vergilden is a relatively new editor in terms of number of edits, but has been made aware of what edit warring is and protocol when their edits are reverted.[74]. Most of the time no attempt at talk page discussion occurs in the above reverts or their edits are in direct opposition to an ongoing talk discussion.[75]. In addition to the recent 1RR violation, the general edit warring behavior was specifically said to be covered under the discretionary sanctions by the drafting Arb at the case.[76]

In addition, this editor is a WP:SPA, where all of their edits (barring a handful of minor edits) are related to adding content related to sources from Nassim Taleb or recently by proxy his views on GMOs. I don't see any evidence of WP:COI, but there does appear to be strong advocacy on the topic associated with being an SPA such as hyperbole about censoring when trying to explain reliable sourcing or resorting to personal attacks when someone doesn't agree with them such as calling me a "jobsworth"[77].

I'll also note that jps has had multiple reverts on precautionary principle, but they had not been alerted to the discretionary sanctions prior to their recent edits. They now have a notice on their talk page.

Given that editors have tried to slow Vergilden down and stop this behavior with no improvement and continued inflammation of the topic, a block could be justified both under the ArbCom sanctions for edit warring and as described by WP:SPA. Otherwise, a topic ban for GMOs and topics relating to Nassim Taleb would hopefully alleviate the isuse. Kingofaces43 (talk) 16:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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+[[Genetically modified food controversies]]
+* Makes controversial change to say there is no scientific consensus on GMOs, is reverted and asked to come to talk page.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genetically_modified_food_controversies&diff=695502365&oldid=695497920]  Reverts again anyways.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genetically_modified_food_controversies&diff=695502540&oldid=695502365]
+* Another case of adding content[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genetically_modified_food_controversies&diff=695532203&oldid=695514454], being reverted[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genetically_modified_food_controversies&diff=695776213&oldid=695726873], and simply reverting back[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genetically_modified_food_controversies&diff=695778495&oldid=695776213] instead of trying to reach consensus at the talk page.
+[[Regulation of the release of genetically modified organisms]]
+* Adds content that is removed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Regulation_of_the_release_of_genetically_modified_organisms&type=revision&diff=695262964&oldid=695205316]. Immediately reverts it back in.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Regulation_of_the_release_of_genetically_modified_organisms&diff=695265567&oldid=695262964]
+;Notice of discretionary sanctions):
+[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vergilden#GMO_related_pages  18:00, December 14]
+; Additional comments by editor filing complaint :
+The overall problem with this editor is that they add controversial content, and when they are reverted specifically asking them to go to the talk page and not revert, they revert anyways. This has been a common trend in all their recent edits in the last few days. Vergilden is a relatively new editor in terms of number of edits, but has been made aware of what edit warring is and protocol when their edits are reverted.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Vergilden&diff=695506252&oldid=695278651]. Most of the time no attempt at talk page discussion occurs in the above reverts or their edits are in direct opposition to an ongoing talk discussion.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Precautionary_principle#Whitepapers_not_reliable_sources.3F]. In addition to the recent 1RR violation, the general edit warring behavior was specifically said to be covered under the discretionary sanctions by the drafting Arb at the case.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically_modified_organisms/Proposed_decision&diff=691105781&oldid=691100112]
+In addition, this editor is a [[WP:SPA]], where all of their edits (barring a handful of minor edits) are related to adding content related to sources from [[Nassim Taleb]] or recently by proxy his views on GMOs. I don't see any evidence of [[WP:COI]], but there does appear to be strong advocacy on the topic associated with being an SPA such as hyperbole about censoring when trying to explain reliable sourcing or resorting to personal attacks when someone doesn't agree with them such as calling me a "jobsworth"[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Precautionary_principle&diff=695647822&oldid=695645929].
+I'll also note that [[User:I9Q79oL78KiL0QTFHgyc|jps]] has had multiple reverts on precautionary principle, but they had not been alerted to the discretionary sanctions prior to their recent edits. They now have a notice on their talk page.
+Given that editors have tried to slow Vergilden down and stop this behavior with no improvement and continued inflammation of the topic, a block could be justified both under the ArbCom sanctions for edit warring and as described by [[WP:SPA]]. Otherwise, a topic ban for GMOs and topics relating to [[Nassim Taleb]] would hopefully alleviate the isuse. [[User:Kingofaces43|Kingofaces43]] ([[User talk:Kingofaces43|talk]]) 16:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
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