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Pronoun Trouble

I don't think there really is a pronoun trouble, but as I explained in the edit summary, it says "this type of list" but does not mention which one. I believe that tag is appropriate.174.3.110.108 (ta--lk) 22:13, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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What Wikipedia is not page

Hello, I will admit that I reverted partly because of the editors tone, but more so because while the rant was on the topic of the essay, it was not at all about editing or improving the page, and I could see no reason for a link to the editors blog. Cheers. Beach drifter (talk) 01:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Re:Sam & Max S3 FYI

I was going to wait for a bit more development information to emerge, but ok. I'll try to get on that soon. I really need to finish Tales' article before Devil's Playhouse begins its run. -- Sabre (talk) 22:07, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's a whole load of potential development information being posted by TTG's people, namely Jordan and Stemmle, in this private preorder forum on their site. How would one cite that sort of stuff? They're making the comments in an official capacity so that negates the "forum posts aren't reliable" issue, but if you haven't bought the game, you can't see it to verify. -- Sabre (talk) 22:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: This Too Shall Pass

Hello this is commentboy123. I appreciate what you are doing with the article, but I do not see where you have included the cost of making the video. I think it's important to at least give the approximate value instead of leaving it blank, because in this case it is very unusual that OK Go would spend so much money on music videos. Also, I have a valuable reference to back up my information. But well, that's my opinion. :) I don't mind anybody leaving it blank if you don't feel the need. And wow, like every single article you edited is a Featured, Good Article, nice job! Commentboy123 (talk) 04:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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RB complete list issue

Not sure what's going on, but the Complete list of RB DLC has some formatting issue that's causing a no include and some extra content to pop up. My guess would be it's related to the 2010 article but I'm not sure how to confirm that. Not too familiar with the transclusions you set up. Wanna take a look when you get a chance? Thanks!-- TRTX T / C 01:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Characters in Bully AFD.

Look I dislike edit warring, so I am going to leave this here.

An AFD has the consensus to delete the page, it maybe be an old AFD, but I feel it should still count, if not then I will request a new one. 81.156.174.107 (talk) 01:03, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Second opinion on Homer Defined

Hi Masem. I'm guessing your experienced in non-free image so I would appreciate if you could provide a second opinion about the use of File:Simpsons 8F04.png in the Homer Defined article. There is a dispute between me and another editor about whether or not the image meets WP:NFCC#8; see Talk:Homer Defined/GA1. Regards, Theleftorium 12:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Characters in The World Ends with You

I was wondering if you would like to help me write up plot summaries; it's been a while since I've played, so... :> - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 17:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heavy Rain

Sorry about the wrong edits; I didn't double-check my sources and had this confused with another title. When the IP changed the "Shelby" to "killer" I thought s/he was attempting to point out that any of them could be the killer. I didn't realize s/he was trying to remove "spoilers".

Also, why is the ending where all the 4 characters alive described in such detail? Does any source actually suggest that this is significant? I think it is WP:UNDUE to give one ending such credit and WP:OR/WP:NPOV to select the one where everyone arrives. Not to make this WP:FANCRUFT, but either other endings should be mentioned or none at all. —  H3llkn0wz  ▎talk  01:31, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

who the killer is, "is" important. it could be added in the plot and explain multiple endings in the ending section.

NFC items in discographies & other list type systems

I just wanted to let you know that I haven't responded at Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Starfleet_ranks_and_insignia_.28again.29 because I'm hoping that other interested parties will become involved. If just the two of us move forward on it, it'll blow up if implemented. I am watching. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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List of LGBT Jews

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And your !vote there makes almost no sense. I'd guess I'm missing something? Did you see that there are whole books on the topic (provided above in the discussion)? Also, was your taboo thing a joke? I guess I just assumed you were from the West, but I find it hard to believe you could be on-line and be able to read English and miss the traditional issues with Jews (and Christians) and LGB issues. See Homosexuality in the Hebrew Bible as a starting point... Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks like you are either being inappropriately sarcastic or didn't do any reading before !voting. Hobit (talk) 20:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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How do I find out what articles needs to reviewed for readability and grammar? Thisuser (talk) 18:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can find one list here.   — Jeff G.  ツ 02:28, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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FYI, there is a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of worlds in the Kingdom Hearts series about this list. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 21:18, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Guitar Hero 6 and the FT

Hi Masem, I've updated the retention, here. Hope that's all okay - rst20xx (talk) 15:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

...and now added DJ Hero 2, and updated for the release date of WoR - rst20xx (talk) 22:19, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Humble Indie Bundle

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D'oh!

Well spotted, sorry about that. I'd added the link a while back after an editor had stated that Rosanna was "human" a couple of times. The whole section is much improved now, so if I WP:OVERLINK please do WP:TROUT me ;-) TFOWRpropaganda 13:56, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I watch the Criticism of X discussions like it was some great soap opera. Something confusing to the subject. Does WP:SS allow for recursive usage and how many recursions? I can see how some editors would think the second recursion would be amounting to WP:COATRACK. The Criticism of Judaism article seemed to be created in accordance with WP:criticism essay which, from it's first implementation in 2006 by Hyacinth, proposed all articles have a Criticism section for NPOV purposes. But then that criticism article became it's own WP:SS article making it a second level recursion. Should we forbid more than one recursive usage of WP:SS? Should the WP:SS page at least have some added language on recursive usage? Alatari (talk) 08:39, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Psssttt...

Pssstttt... Look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_songs_in_Guitar_Hero:_Warriors_of_Rock&redirect=no and click Edit. I've got it all figured out, when the time comes to separate the pages, just erase the redirection markup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrantyO (talk • contribs) 23:07, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Tales of Monkey Island vandalism

Hi,

I noticed that you reverted the vandalism on this article just a few minutes ago (I thought I'd done it, but the edit history shows you, so I guess you got there first). I'm no Wikipedia expert, so please bear with my lack of experience, but shouldn't the visibility of those edits be supressed somehow? They contain links, claiming to be to downloads of the games. Chances are that either they're illegal downloads or, probably more likely, they're links to malware. Either way, do we want them sitting around in the edit history with the prominent edit summary "get game here"?

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Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists (television)

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Thank you. DASHBot (talk) 05:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article titles

You have reverted my "good faith" edits once to often, Masem, and your recent reversal of my edit at WP:Article titles is hard to fathom[1]. If the edit is in good faith, all the more reason to let it stand and to discuss it; you should know by now that there is more than "faith" alone behind the purpose of my edits.

I can't control what you do, but all I know is that for a proposal to get accepted, it must see the light of day, be discussed, and some sort of compromise reached. Simply reverting without any detailed discussion amounts to little more than stonewalling. This is not a simple or straightforward proposal: I am sticking my neck out, and seeking support, or at the very least, constructive criticism not blanket rejection, which is of no value to both us.

With regards to merit of the proposal itself, if you do not wish it to succeed , do say so and why: don't hide behind vague generalisations of consensus. Please don't act as long distance sniper or unspoken detractor, otherwise we will never be able to work towards effective guidance. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 08:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are other ways of gaining attention to a working proposal for an addition of a section to existing p/g - the RFC tag, listing on CENT, blurbs on the Pumps, etc. Introducing a significantly radical change to a p/g while discussion is ongoing is not helpful. --MASEM (t) 15:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I'm having the same problem with Masem; I provided good info on a popular part of a game article and a reference that's not only accurate, but is easily 100% verifiable, yet he still continues to refuse to accept it. Seriously, man, if you doubt the "validity" of the citation, just try connecting to one of the servers. If you still don't believe it after you see it with your own eyes, I don't know what to tell you. Citations can come in other forms than news articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.70.66.246 (talk) 00:27, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Left 4 Dead 2 8 July 2010

Hi; I added what is likely to be a more clear reference to the L4D2 article involving 9-20 player servers over the 8 normal maximum. Nearly a 3rd of the active player base in the game now plays on these servers, so I think they are important enough to warrant mention; the reference now lists an active list of every active L4D2 server and ranks them in order of activity. If you glance it over, you'll notice from the very top to the bottom, a huge portion of servers now support large games ranging from 10 player co-op to 20 player Versus + additional slots for spectators.

I really have no idea what more I could cite in this instance, or how you could get more impartial than an active scan of the list. I just think it's an important point to bring up that the PC version can support larger games and as the point of a Wikipedia article is to inform people of things they might not otherwise know, think it's valid being there. While as I said a huge portion of the player base is on these servers, many casual fans are not likely to realize that, as they are only accessible via Steam Groups, console IP connect, or the OpenServerBrowser command. The source I am currently citing will provide anyone interested in this aspect with a wide list of IPs, however, allowing anyone who wishes to play to connect to one easily on the PC version of the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlazingOwnager (talk • contribs) 11:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed

In thinking about it, you are right re: the Bonus Costumes section for God of War. In fact, the God of War (series) page also doesn't require this. Getting a tad too fannish. Thanks for the pointer. Spartancourage (talk) 03:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Further to this, I've broken down edits for Kratos (God of War) and explained the rationale on the Talk page. I think Caribbean~H.Q. means well, but many of the additions were a tad too fannish and retained speculation, were off topic etc. Hopefully we can resolve this without any edit wars.

Regards Spartancourage (talk) 08:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lodger edit

That was a good editing job. Nicely done, Masem. :) - Jack Sebastian (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Lodger edits

I think we are encountering a significant disagreement as to your interpretation of synthesis, Masem. I think we should confer in article discussion prior to making any more changes. I've reverted out the application of the different Doctors that flash on the screen, as well as their numbering, based upon that disagreement; I've explained my reasons in discussion. Let's resolve it there, so we don't fall into a pattern of edit-warring. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 20:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


NFC Image Size

Hello MASEM, you have a new message on the NFC Talk Page GWillHickers (talk) 17:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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If it doesn't belong in WP:NOT and it doesn't belong in WP:N, where does it belong?

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Potential WP:RFC/U

I'm seriously considering filing an RfC on User:Gavin.collins. Unfortunately, "being an obstacle in every discussion I've ever seen him contribute to for years on end" isn't against policy. Can you think of a better method for attempting to get it through to him that he actually has to listen to people and compromise, not just bluster on for years on end until everyone gets sick of the matter and the issue is abandoned? --erachima talk 14:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Several months and a draft ahead of you: User:Masem/draft though it needs trimming and editing, please feel free to do so. --MASEM (t) 14:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, thing that pushed me over the edge on the matter was earlier today realizing that A. he has 2000 edits just to WT:FICT and B. he is involved in half a dozen arguments at present, and is the primary sticking point against consensus in every single one of them. --erachima talk 14:27, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Having read your draft, while I agree it needs some copyediting, you appear to have nailed the problems down quite well. RFC/U requires two certifications of dispute/attempted resolution, correct? --erachima talk 17:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wondered if Gavin Collin's participation in policy and guideline debates might lead to something like this. I agree with much of what is written in that draft. Fences&Windows 11:20, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
FYI - He never lets go. [2]This had to be moved from the actual arbitration discussion to the talk page by a member of the committee.--Mike Cline (talk) 16:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw that myself. --MASEM (t) 16:55, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I consider that comment by Gavin Collins to be highly disruptive. Involving himself in that arbitration on a fraught topic at such a late stage to try to push a policy proposal that has already failed is astounding. Fences&Windows 13:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you need any additional input from the RPG/D&D community, just let me know - although it looks like you have everything important covered already. BOZ (talk) 17:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He's at it again! Here - Interjecting completely unrelated title souring issues into another discussion. Very disruptive.--Mike Cline (talk) 11:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you have any geniune complaints about me personally, bring them to my talk page, and we can disucss them in good faith there. Otherwise, I won't view any RFC in good faith, just ad hominem attack page. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 12:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability-based restrictions for infobox credits?

I've brought up a new discussion about this here. Since you were involved in the old one, I figured I should invite you over. Prime Blue (talk) 16:18, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:VG/GL#Non-English games

Same here. Comments would be appreciated here. Prime Blue (talk) 20:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An explanation?

Perhaps you could explain to me why you would undo my edit to Blink (Doctor Who) such that it would make the plot synopsis less correct. Forteblast (talk) 05:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. DASHBot (talk) 05:29, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you check on this?

Masem, ok, maybe it looks like Jimbo's now the managing director of The Guardian. It's just an experiment. OK from copyright perspective? Tony (talk) 14:11, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The link would be a good idea, here. Thanks. Tony (talk) 14:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Masem, you're right. They may remove the logo, anyway, but I tried your left/right suggestion. Tony (talk) 14:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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...is several keep voters performing an Alphonse and Gaston routine after stating that there are third-party reliable sources covering a topic but are reluctant to actually add citations to the article itself. patsw (talk) 01:20, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a thought...

Please see discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability (films)#Proposed ammendment to WP:NFF. Thank you. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Ministry 02 pack

Thanks for moving it to the upcoming songs list. Dunno why I didn't put it there in the first place :) User:Danhgilmore —Preceding undated comment added 15:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Silent Hill 2 Review

Hi and thank you for taking the time to review it! I think that I corrected the issues you brought up. Kaguya-chan (talk) 15:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Art game

As for the art games entry. I was in the process of added the additional sources when you reverted the changes. I will re-enter them with the various sources that cite them as artistic games, and/or exhibit them. My interest in them is I am writing about them as part of my PhD on art games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.178.8 (talk) 02:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Masem/survivor-ci

If you're finished with this draft page, can you please delete it? I nearly MFDed it for being a fake article about someone's Survivor fanfic (and there's a hell of a lot of that shit going around in userspace). Stifle (talk) 12:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm hunting out WP:NOT#WEBHOST violations and this came up by the by. Stifle (talk) 12:54, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hah...

...I was camping on this guy's contribs, knowing he was going to keep going... you got to him first! *g* Tony Fox (arf!) 21:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GLaDOS

Was wondering, since you had prior involvement in the article, if you would be interested in helping give it a GA push. I think I've found as much as I can for reception and development, so it's just a matter of copyediting and organization. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 08:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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A Move afoot to make title sourcing policy

Masem, at the risk of being accused of canvassing, you need to weigh in on this [3] as the effort to change our WP:Article titles policy into a notability/content policy continues.--Mike Cline (talk) 00:56, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Restaurant Notability

A formalized vote has begun regarding notability and your input is desired, thank you :) - Theornamentalist (talk) 03:57, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Limbo (video game)/GA1

I've left a review there- feel free to ping me once you're done/if you have any replies, though I will be watching. J Milburn (talk) 18:32, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted, well done. I've left some thoughts about improvements that could be made before taking the article to FAC. J Milburn (talk) 19:33, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I sent the email and I'm chatting to Dino Patti about the release of some images now. I'll keep you posted. J Milburn (talk) 21:01, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the GA review and the image check. If you're successful, I may want to try to approach Valve about that since they're their own publisher for the most part and see what approach you took with content (that would free up a lot of images on several FA pages). Still need the copyediting for FA, may try again in a few days to see. --MASEM (t) 23:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

PvZ, wikias

Hi Masem I'm just curious, but is there any official policy about this topic? If not I feel it's something kinda needed :) WikiKiwi (askme) 13:46, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for BioShock Infinite

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Infintite

Sorry about some of my edits there, they were pretty silly. You are doing a good job with the article, you seem on top of it and any issues, keep it up. ValenShephard (talk) 02:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

images by orignal region

just letting you know, images are not usually done by originality for video games. if it's released in the US, we use the English cover. you might have gotten the idea from the anime and manga articles. anime and manga are more famous for it's region unlike Dissidia: final fantasy. so the english image should do. the English one had all 10 playable protagonist except for the unlockable. so the English one should be better for the article.Bread Ninja (talk) 08:55, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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As a previous volunteer at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stubsensor I though you might like to know there is a new set available for work at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stubsensor/20100826. Hope to see you there. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 10:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The Devil's Playhouse

Just a thought, you're usually quite well informed about most of the TTG/former LucasArts people games, I don't suppose you know of any good development sources for The Devil's Playhouse? I'm struggling, I'm only finding a few workable sources. I really should have followed the same as TMI and stayed with the article from the first day... -- Sabre (talk) 16:02, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Secret pages 2

Because you participated in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Some Person/The Real Secret Page and Secret Barnstar, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Secret pages 2. Cunard (talk) 06:26, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agni Air Flight 101

Re your comments on MickMacNees notability proposal. A Do 228 is not a "small" aircraft. It is an airliner that falls into the 5,700 - 13,999 kg MTOW weightband. There is a lot of chaff to wade through in the AfD discussion, but the basic reasons for notability are worst accident in Nepal, worst accident for airline, 4th worst involving the Do-228, and (possibly) the number of deaths. There was plenty of input from the community, who overwhelmingly decided that they wanted the article to stay. Mjroots (talk) 04:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that all of these reasons are never used for notability assessment of other topics; size, # of fatalities, location, etc. We need significant coverage in secondary sources, otherwise its just a datapoint. This article is the type that would be best at Wikinews annd linked from Wikipedia on an article about air disasters for a region or year, but not as a standalone article. The problem with that AFD is that any admin is rarely going to override the strong majority there even if the reasoning is wrong. --MASEM (t) 05:12, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We have the coverage. The accident happened in Nepal. Sources used come from India, the UK and the USA. Community consensus seems to be that these accidents are notable, which is why they get kept at AfD and the decision is endorsed at DRV. Maybe the problem is that WP:NOTNEWS is not as widely supported as it once was. This has certainly happened with WP:AIRCRASH - Consensus can change over time. Mjroots (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You have a lot of news sources, but nothing that goes into depth; its all reporting, not analysis. They are not secondary sources as per the GNG. As there hasn't been any coverage of any significant note after the accident (after checking google news), such cases fail WP:NTEMP. There *could* be more after that accident report, but considering what I usually see after a major 100+ passenger accident and this, its doubtful it is more than a blip. --MASEM (t) 13:00, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See, this is where it just gets bizarre, and where admins really need to start paying attention in these debates. Mjroots claims it is:

  • the "worst accident in Nepal" - OK. Where is the citation for that? It's not in the article, and it's not mentioned in the Afd. I have in the past voted keep for 'worst accident in country' type crashes, as this is usually remembered. But it's pretty clear from this that it was not even the worst accident in Nepal this decade. There have been at least 14 other accidents in the history of Nepal which were more fatal than this one according to that source.
  • the "worst accident for airline" - Sounds impressive doesn't it? Bar the fact that the airline Agni Air has only been in existence since 2006, and it has just 5 planes. Far from being the worst, it infact appears to be the only accident for this airline. Agian, AIRCRASH is pretty clear, if this is the only claim to notability, it does not warrant an article.

I agree with Mjroots, this is most definitely chaff - stuff thrown out there to confuse and distract opponents! MickMacNee (talk) 15:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Might be useful

Proof by verbosity --Mike Cline (talk) 20:39, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit waring etc.

Hi Masem, First of all I think that notification of an RfC/U in places where the "U" has been involved is appropriate and I don't believe there is any violation of WP:CANVAS, though I'd be willing to listen to your thoughts on that. Secondly, I think reverting two different users on the same topic isn't best of all possible ideas. You might just be wrong you know... :-) Hobit (talk) 20:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Guitar Hero series' FTR

Hey Masem. In case you didn't know, Guitar Hero is up for Featured Topic Review. GamerPro64 (talk) 15:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have a supp related comment by Wizardman that you should probably address. GamerPro64 (talk) 17:56, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of fraternal buildings

Masem... as you know, I have been involved in a long dispute over notability, inclusion critera and other issues relating to List of Masonic buildings. From my perspective, the problems with that list have now been replicated into a whole group of lists. But I need a reality check.

Recently created are: List of Elks buildings, List of Knights of Columbus buildings, List of Knights of Pythias buildings and List of Odd Fellows buildings). Would you take a look at these list articles, and advise me on whether you think they are notable topics or not? I think these are all cases where two notable topics are being combined to form a new topic, without properly establishing that the new topic is notable... essentially a WP:NOT#Inherited violation... but I am not sure.

Essentially, I think these could be discussed as a group instead of one single article... If we need to discuss it at the AfD, we can talk about the generalized topic of "buildings associated with fraternal order X", or even the more generalized "Ys associated with X"

Would you give me your take on these articles? Am I completely off base or am I correct in thinking that these are problematic? Blueboar (talk) 18:07, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still thinking about them, but my internet thoughts are they are a problem. I don't think there's anything specially inherient about a building used as a meeting house by a frat order. If they actually built that building for that purposes I would probably be more open. Also, while the lists say "notable buildings", a few I spot checked has stubs and barely-notable aspects beyond the NRHP listing. I'm thinking that any sort of lists based on these is going to come from the NRHP side; a meeting hall for a frat order is just nothing of note by itself, but NRHP buildings uses as fraternal order buildings is a different story. --MASEM (t) 19:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The NRHP tie is the problem here, and why I am hesitant to AfD these lists... these lists are really a combination of two topics... "NRHP buildings" and "Fraternal Order X"... If we approach these lists as being sub-lists of NRHP buildings, then I can see a (week) argument for saying they are notable... The National Registry of Historic Places is a notable topic... and I think it is proper to transfer that notability to List of all NRHP buildings. I understand how such a list would have WP:SIZE problems. I have absolutely no problem dividing that list up into manageable chunks... provided that the division is done in a way that does not change the underlying topic (by state for example). So the question here is... does adding the fraternal order aspect change the underlying topic away from simply being a sub-division of "List of all NRHP buildings". I think it does. Thus, the lists are no longer merely sub-articles, but are actually new topics that need to establish their own notability. That means we need sources that discuss "buildings associated with fraternal order X" (and I suspect such sources do not exist).
If, on the other hand we approach these lists as being sub-lists of the article on Fraternal Order X, then there is no justification for the list at all. We are clearly taking the notability of the order and attaching it to a another topic... buildings... which is exactly what WP:NOT#INHERITED says we should not do.
Is this sound reasoning? Or am I off base? Blueboar (talk) 20:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've suggested before that the natural grouping is the NRPH, and given that, the subgrouping there would likely be by-state. Per-use really makes no sense, though it is completely fair to say in a brief list description that it is a frat org. house, blah blah. I do think that within the frat org. articles there could be lists of buildings constructed specifically by them or specifically for that purpose, but not ones surplanted for them. --MASEM (t) 01:42, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. It helps. Blueboar (talk) 12:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Limbo (again)

Ok, here goes. Being very picky, as it seems the FAC people were too. From the development section-

  • "struct Jensen with inspiration" What?
  • "his own hand as programming in Visual Basic" Not the best phrase
  • "Jensen had only" Repetition of "Jensen"
  • "himself also dissatisfied" who was also?
  • "he realized that" It was British English, wasn't is? "realised" is preferred
  • "they did not want to commit to any major publishers, they wanted" repetition- a semi-colon would be better if you kept this wording. How about "they did not want to commit to any major publishers; the team wanted"
  • "became a retail title." had become? Doesn't make sense otherwise.
  • "would deter the" Not sure "deter" is the best word
  • "the game due to it not fitting well in the context of the game;" the game, the game, the game
  • "determine what the meaning of the game is" determine the game's meaning?
  • "Jensen used inspiration of several films" from?
  • "a forest to the city to an abstract environment" a forest but the city?
  • "considering that his sound arrangements" not the best phrase
  • "be very adapt at" You mean "adept", but I think "capable" would be a better word

Hope that helps. J Milburn (talk) 11:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there.. I loved Limbo, and I want to help with copyediting (I saw your request at the Guild, and I've done lots of CEs -- I'm an English teacher by day). How close are you to FAC? (I find it most useful to copyedit after all the research and content issues are resolved.) Let me know when I should bust out with the red pen! Scartol • Tok 12:16, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I may have some time this weekend, but if you don't hear from me by Wednesday 29 September, drop me a reminder. Scartol • Tok 02:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One shot (music video)

Masem, I've not checked into White Knuckles yet but the source you posted [4] may suffer from reliability issues. Particularly it's identification of White Knuckles as One Shot is made in reference to This Too Shall Pass (song) being One Shot which we have reliable sourcing to prove erroneous. Unfortunately most of the other articles I see referring to One Shot do so citing New York Magazine as source leaving them with the same issues. I've no intention of removing the entry, just asking that if you find a better source before I do could you consider changing it? Stuart —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stuart.Jamieson (talk • contribs) 21:29, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Given that none of the other videos listed have references to assure they are one shot, it's difficult to dispute a reliable source that actually asserts this. Remember, in This Too video, it was other sources that said it was one shot, but eventually when they talked to band directly, found the issue. Here, the band and director is saying it. --MASEM (t) 21:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that, I agree about the lack of sources for other videos - and we really do need to start culling out unsound One Shots from the list - but I never seem to have the time, I just try and catch out any I know are not one shots as they are added unsourced.
The problem I had with the first source is that although Tim Nordwind is quoted - he doesn't mention it being one shot; he does state which take they decided to use but it's no more clear than the early quotes about which times This Too ran through the sequence successfully. The magazine then uses this to make the claim that the video was one shot. The new Gizmondo cite is much better because it completely revolves around difficulties of actually doing one shot.
Having finally watched the video it looks like there may be some Digital compositing to improve the final effect, but it will be difficult to find a source that actually confirms this. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 07:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Gavin

Let's see how he responds to this. I hope that he realizes that if he can trust anyone to align with him on the issues he fights on, it's me.—Kww(talk) 16:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Signature

FYI: I just wanted to let you know that you forgot to add your signature here. Cheers! Location (talk) 18:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for White Knuckles

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Please

Please take a look at User:WhatamIdoing/Sandbox, which currently contains an off-the-cuff, first draft of the difference between "secondary source" and "third party". I'm sure there are better examples than what's occurred to me. Feel free to improve (or to suggest a title for the WP: namespace). WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:58, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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MfD nomination of User:Masem/survivor-test

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Chell/Shell

Hey there.. First off, thanks for all the research and/or coordination work you did to make Portal an FA. I'm working on a project and I'm finding that page supremely useful.

Since I didn't see any mention in the article, I'll assume the answer is no, but perhaps the following was addressed in a less-than-reliable source to which you can point me? I wonder if you found anything addressing the likely connection between the protagonist's name "Chell" and the Shell concept in computing? (Or a Shell account?)

Cheers! Scartol • Tok 14:22, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AfD: the balance between precedent and 2010 policies applied to 2005 articles

I am getting regularly pelted and stunned in Afd's by this:

  • There's no precedent for this, therefore the article should be deleted.
  • You are citing a precedent for this article and we ignore that because of WP:Other Stuff Exists, therefore the article should be deleted.

I don't have a problem with obvious cases, but in marginal cases, it useful to see to the extent to which WP:N, WP:V, etc. was applied to articles which have been included. My question to you is do see arguments for delete excessively and inappropriately use WP:OSE or otherwise reject past editing practices as irrelevant to a current AfD? patsw (talk) 01:26, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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consensus on lists

I put together a short summary of the principles from the list RFC where there appears to be consensus. I wanted to invite a small number of people to look at it before figuring out a next step (whether that's to invite more people, to work on another RFC, or to scrap what I've written altogether). Take a look at User:Shooterwalker/Lists. Note the point of the summary I wrote isn't to re-open the discussion, but to ask "does this describe the RFC"? Shooterwalker (talk) 16:43, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock GAN review

I have started the GAN review for Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock at Talk:Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock/GA1. I'm still working through it (doubt I'll find much more), but will notify you on that page when I'm finished. In the meantime you can fix any existing issues. If you could return the favor and assess 1-2 C/B class requests of mine at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment/Requests that'd be great. --Teancum (talk) 14:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Title italics via Infobox VG

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Title italics via Infobox VG has been there for a while, has collected some support, and the closest thing to opposition is a "what is this all about?". If you have the wherewithal to make it happen, I would say it's probably valid to go ahead. —chaos5023 (talk) 15:00, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Excuse me Masem. Can you review Dragon Quest for A-class assessment? Its been up for review since May and I just want to get it over with. GamerPro64 (talk) 20:42, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Animal Farm characters

Hi. I read your comments at WP:Articles for deletion/List of Animal Farm characters, and I think I'm more in agreement than my replies indicate. Expanding on my objections:

  • You're correct that copyvio from external sources is treated more expediently. This merged list would usually not be G12'd. The {{Copied}} template is seeing wider use, but few users – among them WP:Copyright problems regulars, whose time is better spent there – fix them.
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Rock Band 3 - Joystiq review

link --- didn't know if this was useful to you, but I thought it'd be a fun read anyway. --Teancum (talk) 11:37, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

correct tag?

Hi, could you take a quick look the tag I chose for this file? Thanks. Tony (talk) 11:49, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Xanderliptak

I have opened an RfC/U on Xanderliptak. Since you have attempted to deal with the concerns that I raise, I have mentioned you in the RfC. The RfC is not yet certified and may not be; currently I am the sole signatory, and any RfC not accompanied by evidence showing that two users tried and failed to resolve the same dispute will be deleted after 48 hours as "uncertified". But I thought you should be made aware. Any feedback will, of course, be most welcome. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:24, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cities

On that point, I can see there were more replies. How can we (I) start a community wide discusstion about that topic?TalkToMecintelati 21:42, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs in Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock/archive1

It's been 5 days, and I was wondering if you could reply to my comment on the FLC page, since the nomination is nearly going on a month, if need be you can reply to the other editors for follow up comments. Afro (Talk) 03:00, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's been well over a week and my comment hasn't been addressed, I would like to pull you back for further discussion as the FLC has gone on a month now. Afro (Talk) 08:21, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey

Hey, can you accept my friend request on Xbox Live? The gamertag's granty0. Please reply. Thanks, grantyO (talk) 20:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Oh hey

The matter came up earlier. --Kizor 13:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts?

Masem, I was following the recent discussions on the Notability talk page and decided to explore the class-specific notability guidelines idea raised by DGG via this essay. Any thoughts?--Mike Cline (talk) 16:17, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lego Rock Band on X360 Games on Demand

source - can't find any press on it, but xbox.com shows it as released on Games on Demand as of 11/2/2010. Just thought that might be worth noting. --Teancum (talk) 00:56, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Season episode lists

Mhiji (talk · contribs) has moved a large number of season episode lists. Since you were the editor who boldly inserted the section into WP:NC-TV, I though you should be informed of the discussion at NC-TV initiated by Mhiji's actions. —Farix (t | c) 03:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Back to the Future: The Game

I think you goof in that source. Sarujo (talk) 20:49, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Sly Collection

Hi there, I personaly think we should have seperate articles for these Classics HD titles. They are on a different console, have their own trophies, release dates, etc. Besides, Sony is planning to keep making these remake titles, so we should have seperate articles for them. But thats just my opinion anyway. Palms15 (talk) 06:13, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pinky and the Brain

Hi! I read your comments at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_82#Cartoon_Sexuality

The Dennis material was responded to in the Animation World Network article that was written as a response to Dennis's comments. In particular, with the Pinky and the Brain stuff, the author of the response said that the Dennis comments were "interesting"

I understand that WP:Due is a consideration. Maybe it could help to reduce the number of sentences describing the Dennis material (while leaving in the sentence about the response from AWN) so that the body of the material is more balanced? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:35, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 November 2010

Hello

Hi Masem, hope you're well. As an editor who has used the services of the Guild of Copy Editors, I thought you might be interested in knowing that the Guild is currently holding elections for its coordinators. To view the discussion and voice your opinion, please visit the election page. Thanks! – SMasters (talk) 14:42, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 6 December 2010

TV Guide interview

Mind sourcing that for me?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 04:36, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cartoon Sexuality

The admin WhisperToMe (talk) is adament about adding sections about the possible homosexuality of the cartoon characters below. These sections are all based on the opinions of one man, JP Dennis, in one paper he wrote. Dennis is a gay man himself who seems to write exclusively about gay issues, so in my opinion, it's not surprising that he sees homosexuality where there is none. Also, there are already complete articles regarding this topic (LGBT themes in comics, LGBT themes in speculative fiction). If you believe these sections would place undue weight on this topic (which I believe is a non-issue), please comment on the talk pages below, otherwise WhisperToMe will add these sections back. Thanks in advance for your input.

Scooby-Doo (character) (talk), Shaggy Rogers (talk), Daphne Blake (talk), Velma Dinkley (talk), Pinky and the Brain (talk), Heffer Wolfe (talk) and Yogi Bear (talk). Judgeking (talk) 18:18, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:JDDJS said he's going to start a general post about the Dennis source at the Wikipedia:Fringe theories noticeboard - please keep your eyes peeled. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:07, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

MST3K

Hey Masem. After clicking on your userpage from the SP (Season 13) FAC, I saw from your userpage that you are a fellow MSTie. You might be interested in this discussion that I started at the WikiProject Television page about a possible MST3K task force. If you know of anyone else who might be interested, please feel free to spread the word, as I'm looking for input! — Hunter Kahn 20:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 13 December 2010

Notable

Would you consider this article Wikipedia:notable "Villisca, Iowa Axe Murders"? It has a fair amount of references but they are mostly based off one site, and several paranormal investigation groups. No news article are sourced. Cheers Kyle1278 02:43, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

there is an easy solution--the house is asserted to be on the National Register of Historic places. If so, rewrite the article to be primarily about the house. Additionally a multiple murder such as this might very well be notable--as you say, news sources for the period need to be checked. (The present article seems to have unsourced opinion and a POV about the murder.) (I happened to be here about the matter below, and noticed this.) DGG ( talk ) 17:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Review

You might be interested in the final suggestion I made at my argument at a current deletion review , [5] on Mr. Monk Goes to the Dentist. Not canvassing-- I had a divided opinion myself on the question, and have no idea what view you will think about that if you decide to have a view. . DGG ( talk ) 17:53, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Airplane!

I see you reverted my edits on Airplane!, stating that my edit of the movie implying the war they kept flashing back to was World War II was speculation. With all due respect, it's not speculation, it's a fact. The movie was a direct parody of Zero Hour!, a well-documented fact (already on the page) with the filmmakers on the DVD commentary track explicitly stating so. ***In Zero Hour!, the character was "Ted Styker" and he definitely was a veteran of WWII. In Airplane!, the character is "Ted Striker" and he is a veteran of a war, never directly specified. However, every flashback Striker has of the aerial combat he took part in, with the audio "Stay in formation. Target just ahead. Target should be clear if you go in low enough. You'll have to decide . . .," (before the comedic site gags of failed aviation experiments throughout history) depicts single engine propeller aircraft, with one level of wings, engaged in combat. They weren't biplanes, so the war wasn't World War I. They also weren't jets, so the war wasn't the Korean War. WWII was the only conflict the United States was involved in using propeller aircraft with one level of wings. Those points are just historical fact,*** and everything between "***" is just me geeking out. In any event, the fact is documented in the DVD commentary, so I'm going to restore my edit, cite my source, and post this on the page's discussion page as well. My apologies for not properly citing the addition in the first place. --Bark (talk) 19:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you stated by the commentary track, they've made a distinction between Zero Hero being WWII, and Airplane! being "a war". That's a significant difference for accuracy here. That point can be made elsewhere in the article (for example, in the development section where the character name is the same and has a similar background). But as confined to the specific plot of the movie, they don't discuss the war, and while you are likely right that the only war it could be is WWII, the movie just does not say this and we can't make that leap of logic without a reliable source. --MASEM (t) 19:50, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
3OR sided with you, so I reverted my addition out. --Bark (talk) 22:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Half-Life 2 changes

I don't really like the changes you made to the Half-Life 2 article, and I would appreciate it if you could defend or revert them.

The paragraph you moved from "Gameplay" to "Story" doesn't belong there, it decribes how the game narrates its story, and that is gameplay related. It served as a nice transition.

You also moved the distribution section under development, and moved it's subsection describing the leak under development as well, neither action makes sense to me.

I tried to keep the "story" section as brief as possible in order to shorten the length of the article. Much of the extra stuff you added is unverifiable research and isn't notable, just random detail and trivia that doesn't help the article. The summary after my edits was a quick walkthrough, covering each major action and chapter.

And finally you reordered the sections. The only reason I changed the order was to ensure the sequels section was the last in the article. I'm curious of the reasons behind your change. --Pyroguy (talk) 17:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We discuss plot from an out-of-universe standpoint; to that, explaining how the story is told to the player, though in-game dialog and w/o typical cutscenes is part of the plot. It is also necessary to explain enough of the background of how the Combine come to be in the game series to set up the nature of the world as it is otherwise not obvious; this additional information does not lengthen the article by any great means and is completely appropriate for it. And no, all the stuff I added is documented and sourcable. I've done several featured articles so I know what is needed and not needed.
As for the order: VGs article have a pretty set order: Gameplay, Plot, Development (which includes distribution and sequels), and Reception. Even if your order attempted to put the sequels last, that's not standard. --MASEM (t) 18:13, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of songs in Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock

Please stop vandalizing the List of songs in Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock. Doctorawesomeness (talk) 02:55, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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