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July 18

"New message" alert appearing for a non-user

I went to the "Earthlink" article, and there was a link at the top of the page which said that there was a message for me (as if I were a user - which I am not). The message was

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to George Washington University has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. L Kensington (talk • contribs) 03:41, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

To see if somehow I was logged in as someone, I went to an edit page and saw that I was not logged in as anyone.

Ignore it completely. Since you are not logged in through an account you are identified by the software by your IP address. These are not only assigned sometimes to multiple people, but they can change over time and even fairly often. The message you saw was left for someone who made an edit back in February 2011 using the same IP address currently assigned by your ISP to you. See also the notice at the bottom of Special:Contributions/76.102.193.39 which says in pertinent part "This is the contributions page for an IP user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users." You can avoid such issues by signing up for an account. Best regards.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:43, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

polonaise and mazur-mazurka dances

how do i upload my expert articles to wikipedia since i am the expert?

Mazurkapol (talk) 00:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

You can't. Wikipedia is not a place for people to publish their own original research on a subject. If you have previously published material on the topics, which appears in reliable sources, please use the article talk page to list the sources, so people who aren't you can evaluate the information and incorporate it in the articles. Promoting your own publication on a topic would be a conflict of interest. You may have published something valid, but because it involves your own writing, it should be evaluated before being added to Wikipedia articles uncritically. Thank you for being willing to share your expertise with Wikipedia. We value it, and wish to incorporate it, but we also wish to do it in a responsible manner. --Jayron32 00:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Please take a look at WP:WikiProject Dance and the associated talk page - you will find other Wikipedians interested in dance there with whom you can discuss your ideas. Roger (talk) 06:28, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

You may wish to expand and improve Polonaise and Mazurka.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Is it possible to create URL using a date instead of a revision ID?

I am wondering whether it's possible to add a date parameter to a URL, so that the content from the last revision before that date appears, e.g., something like "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea_City_A.F.C.?as_of=20110407" to show this page as it appeared on April 7, 2011.

I'm thinking of writing a browser extension that would let users browse Wikipedia as it existed at a certain date, and something like this would greatly simplify things. Jdfoote (talk) 01:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

What if more than one revision was made on that date? I'm slightly confused as to what you're saying. Floating Boat (the user formerly known as AndieM) 07:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

The URL modifiers are listed at mw:Manual:Parameters to index.php. As far as I can see, the only way to access an old revision is by using the "oldid" parameter. And when you use that, you don't quite get the old version of the page, as the old page is rebuilt using today's versions of any relevant images or templates, not the versions in use at the time of the old version. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:00, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

The best you can do with a query url is to get a page history only showing the latest edit at that time: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Swansea_City_A.F.C.&offset=20110407&action=history&limit=1. Do you know Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/TimeTraveller? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much! This is exactly what I'm looking for! Jdfoote (talk) 17:02, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Can Wikipedia Tell a Story?

Hi Wikipedia,

I think it would be neat if you had a feature to tell a story about something. Put relevant information in chronological order, add history to give context, show images of the time... etc. I think this would be pretty neat.

Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.90.50 (talk) 02:38, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

All our articles tell a story, although not necessarily in chronological order which is best suited to articles about historical events.Roger (talk) 06:33, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

covertable car tops

what type cars convertable tops will interchange with a 1997 chevy cavalier — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.162.143.221 (talk) 03:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. RudolfRed (talk) 04:35, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Fontana High SchoolWikipediaSchool · Cullman, Alabama.

Fontana High School is in Fontana California - San Bernardino County.\ It came up Cullman, Alabama on my facebook page. I know I have the right high school as it mentions Kaiser Steel .. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.190.172.81 (talk) 06:13, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia, we have no control over what happens on Facebook. To get help with your problem see the . Roger (talk) 06:37, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center.

I guess you refer to http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fontana-High-School/104075942962584 which says "Description above from the Wikipedia article Fontana High School". This only applies to the part with heading "Description". The alleged location in other parts of the page is inserted by Facebook and not taken from Wikipedia. I don't know how Facebook generates location information but they sometimes get it wrong. Our article Fontana High School doesn't make the mistake. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:46, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Will my article be reviewed?

Wrote an article in my sandbox but haven't published it yet. The article can be found here. Is it going to be reviewed or do I need to publish it first? Feeling really lost, appreciate any advice. Thanks! Giulialap (talk) 07:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Try submitting it into the Articles for Creation page. Floating Boat (the user formerly known as AndieM) 07:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

The blue box at the top of your sandbox page includes a handy link for doing this. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Template for tagging paywalled references

Is there a template or something I can use to tag a paywalled reference as such? In the article Singapore Exchange, there is a statement using cites no. 26 and 27. Cite 26 died a while ago and cite 27 became hidden behind a paywall. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 07:36, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Try {{Subscription required}} -- John of Reading (talk) 07:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I added it inside the ref tags. But somehow it looks a bit odd. Did I apply it correctly, ie should it appear at the end of the reference, like it does now? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 07:53, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I think that's right, though I've added a space. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Should do for now. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:13, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Jukti Takko Aar Gappo scene.ogv

I tried to upload an ogv extension file, but I can not see the video. I can not understand what went wrong! Yes, before uploading I made it low quality. Do I need to delete this file and try re-uploading? --Tito Dutta ✉ 07:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

My guess is that the Cortado player does not support the file format. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Media help. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't know whether we have a project (WikiProject or something like the Graphic Lab) dealing with audio files. I am not aware of it. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Besides, the use of this file in Jukti Takko Aar Gappo appears to be violating NFCC Policy 8. The current use is purely decorative. In addition, I also have concerns with respect to NFCC#3b. The use seems inappropriate to me. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

1) Ya, I saw your posts yesterday, but, forgot to reply. 2) I visited Media Help yesterday, but, did not ask question. I uploaded another version and it worked. I need to to ask to delete older version now 3) The film (last film of Ghatak (director)) is often described as his autobiographical film– a self reflexive mapping (see lead) Critics have felt– "What has been thematised in the whole movie is the decadence. In multiple ways, so many lives are being wasted. May be the whole country is being wasted." etc etc (see Remarks section). which has also been compared to Gray's Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard. This short clipping catches the same theme (But, not a very important (climax) scene in the film). The article is under re-construction and expansion, I have collected few books and preparing references. Within some time, we'll create a section for either the theme and/or a section like "Ghatak's monologue" etc. I'll (at least) start working in next 24–36 hours.-Tito Dutta ✉ 03:23, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I still think this clip shouldn't be in the article. I haven't watched the clip, because the player doesn't play the video for me. If there are any important sections in the film that need to be discussed in the article, either

1) If only the spoken text is important, excerpts from the text can be quoted as described at the top of WP:NFCC#Policy.

2) If a specific portion of the film is discussed in the article (preferrably via sourced commentary), then the exact portion being discussed should be extracted from the film and only that part be used, preferrably in the section where the commentary about that specific part is located in the article. See Wikipedia:Non-free content#Multimedia for what uses of video clips are prohibited.

As it stands, the current use violates NFCC#8. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:45, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Succession and nav box not showing

The Succession box at the bottom of the 1909 Wimbledon Championships page does not show (Chrome, IE, FF). The same applies to the Wimbledon navbox {{Wimbledon Championships}}. On all other Wimbledon Championship pages, e.g. 1908 Wimbledon Championships these boxes appear normally. The code for the boxes is present when editing the page. I removed the relevant code and copied it from 1908 Wimbledon Championships but it still doesn't show. Any suggestions? Thx!--Wolbo (talk) 09:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Dismas|^(talk) 10:03, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that was fast. Thanks! Was it a code error?--Wolbo (talk) 10:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. You can see what I did by clicking on the link that I provided. Dismas|^(talk) 10:37, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

You linked the wrong diff. It was [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Ah, so I did. I just used the "Last" link from Twinkle and didn't look at what it was. I didn't think that someone was going to come right behind me and make another edit so quickly. Thanks and sorry for the confusion. I've fixed my link above. Dismas|^(talk) 10:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Inquiry about printing

PLEASE TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PIGMENT AND REACTIVE PRINTING (FABRIC). wHEN AND WHY I HAVE TO DO PIGMENT PRINTING AND WHEN I HAVE TO GO REACTIVE PRINTING — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.59.80.173 (talk) 11:45, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm about to tell you you're in the wrong place, please ask your question elsewhere but before I do I want you to understand that that you need to stop SHOUTING AT US. This is true pretty much across the internet. Typing in all uppercase letters is interpreted that way, and will make it far likelier that what you type will be ignored. Anyway Have you tried the miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:54, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Reactive dye printing and Textile printing may help.--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

What is the full from NASA

WHAT IS THE FULL FROM NASA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.61.38.161 (talk) 13:16, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, what is the full what from NASA? I don't understand the question. And please do not SHOUT. Britmax (talk) 13:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Please don't SHOUT AT US! The answer is in the first few words of NASA. Roger (talk) 13:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

National Aeronautics and Space Administration Arcandam (talk) 19:44, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Image won't update

I've just uploaded a revised version of a file, but when I go back to the article that uses the image it still displays the old version. Still more confusing: when I click on the old version, it takes me to the image page which clearly displays the new version. This is the image. — Fly by Night (talk) 13:50, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I only got the new version. I purged the page just to be safe, which is probably what needed to happen. Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:54, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try that now. In the meantime, I uploaded the image to Commons with a different name. How do I use images that are hosted on Commons? — Fly by Night (talk) 14:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

It's exactly the same syntax for images from Commons as for local images. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

The problem is called "browser cache". —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:17, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Nutritional Products

Dear Sir / Madam,

In the present scenario, 'N' number of companies are cropping up bringing out many Nutritional Products for weight management and also targeted areas such as Herbalife International, Forever Living, Amway, Unicity and so on & so forth. The cost of the products are very high, though the quality is good. These companies show the result pictures also. Their plea is that the grains, fruits and vegetables which we are using are not at all having any nutrition when they come to our houses due to growing methods, storing methods and cooking methods. Is it that much true or to increase their business these companies are creating panic among people? They are distributing money as commission to the extent of 73 to 75% among the associates. Are these products are really worth of that cost? Everybody is concentrating on political, social or other problems except the nutritious food problems which is the main problem. Food can change a person's mentality also. Nobody is giving prominence to this point. Is this politically motivated thing? Kindly look into this matter and reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vijayakrishna60 (talk • contribs) 15:21, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

This is a help desk for issues regarding the use of Wikipedia. It is unclear what you are asking, but if you think there is a problem regarding our Herbalife, Forever Living Products, Amway or Unicity articles, I'd suggest raising them on the relevant article talk pages initially. You will have to be more specific though. And note that we base articles on published sources - we don't engage in investigative journalism, or scientific research, or other enquiries into the nutritional value of products, or into whether they can 'change a person's mentality'. On a purely personal note, I'd suggest that if you have worries about the nutritional effects of expensive products pushed by multi-level marketing, you might do better to buy similar products from more conventional sources instead. They may not be any better for your health, but there is no evidence that they would be any worse, and you will save your money. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:35, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is so confusing for someone who wants to create a page

Dear Wikipedia,

I want to create a page for something that doesn't yet have a page. Do you know I ended up spending hours clicking through wiki page after page of technical instructions, policies, guidelines, and when I tried to do the editing "sandbox" etc - I could not understand how to edit text in the sandbox (where was the text I was supposed to test edit?) or create a new page. Even trying to contact you to send this comment was complicated and I had to click around FAQs for 10 minutes even though I kept clicking on a "Contact us" link. I'm not sure if I'll try again. It's the kind of thing where you need someone who has already edited pages to sit and show you what to do. The instructions are pretty confusing and bad, in my experience they didn't succeed.

It's true that you only have a certain kind of contributor - someone who is already code savvy and can spend hours and hours figuring out wikipedia's techno jargon.

Thanks, Reader, failed contributor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.112.50.75 (talk) 15:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I've put a welcome notice with some links on your talk page in the hope that it's some help. Britmax (talk) 15:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Don't despair, the fact that you have managed to post here is an indication that you can edit a page - that is what you did here. Don't worry too much about the formatting - just type away in your sandbox. You can always ask someone to help with the formatting until you get the hang of it. Trying to create a new article is quite daunting to a total beginner so a good way to figure out how stuff works is to do minor edits to already existing articles such as fixing typos and so on. Roger (talk) 15:55, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

The truth is, while Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, it is not the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. It is just as it is with many things in life: sometimes it takes time and patience to get used to it. However, if you really want to edit here and have the patience to learn the necessary basics, the rest will come naturally. A good place to start might be Help:Wiki markup. Try to experiment a bit with it at Wikipedia:Sandbox. Go to the page, click Edit and try some stuff out. If you need help with the wiki code, feel free to ask. And don't be afraid of asking dumb questions. If you need help with something, just ask. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 16:07, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

You might also want to check out WP:New contributors' help desk and WP:Teahouse. The people I've seen there are very good at explaining things in detail. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

THANKS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.112.50.75 (talk) 17:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I really appreciate the advice and links! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.112.50.75 (talk) 17:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

What to do after my page was deleted?

My page (Thatchers' Fine Timeless Fabric) has been deleted due to inadequate and unreliable sources. I want to research additional evidence to prove notability then be able to repost.

What suggestions are there for re-posting, when these resources are found? (Lwilkins93 (talk) 16:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC))

The Articles for creation process is probably the best way to go - you get feedback while you create the article. Roger (talk) 16:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Question

How do you know if the HD picture format for a TV show is 720p or 1080i. Thanks! TBrandley 17:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Floating Boat (the user formerly known as AndieM) 17:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, actually, on my Awake article it currently uses 1080i, but others use 720p and 1080i. I was wondering what too use on the article. TBrandley 18:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I still don't know what you are talking about. Sorry. Floating Boat (the user formerly known as AndieM) 18:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

See 720p and 1080i for the mind-boggling technical details. One possible answer is that you should find a reliable source for the video format rather than trying to work it out yourself! -- John of Reading (talk) 21:12, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

paraprashing

How could: ""We read it and really believed it was a network show. I just don't accept that the difference between cable and network dramas is how smart it is." be paraphrased per Wikipedia guidelines. This is for an article. Thanks, TBrandley 18:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Depends on the source and the context. Are you trying to paraphrase a speaker's direct-speech quote into indirect speech? If so, it might be better to leave it as is, and source it. Alternatively, you could say something like X said that (s)he believed it was a network show when (s)he saw it, and didn't accept that the difference between cable and network dramas was their degree of intelligence, although it seems n overcomplicated way to do it and you'd still need to source it just the same. On the other hand, if this is not a direct quotation from someone then it's personal opinion, which doesn't belong in a Wikipedia article no matter how you reword it. - Karenjc 18:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

"the concept of the way your dreams feel real, the way you seem to experience them as something that you don't blink at until something crazy happens that sort of bursts that balloon. I think I became interested in the question of what if nothing ever popped that balloon? What if you couldn't tell the difference between when you were awake and when you were asleep? And then I started looking for a way to marry those two ideas up, and a few months later we had Awake". Also don't know how to really paraphrase that. Thanks. TBrandley 19:18, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Is there a particular reason why you're wanting to paraphrase them? I can see they might be seen as a tad unwieldy, but paraphrasing the whole thing and necessarily having to stick it into indirect speech won't make it any shorter. The alternative is to say something like "X said the concet of Awake is based on the concept of not being able to distinguish between dreams and reality", which is short and sweet but loses a lot. You'd really be better taking these changes to the article's talk page and looking for consensus. - Karenjc 19:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

The article Awake (TV series) has been nominated for FA, and they've told me to paraphrase because it is a "quote farm" in the Conception and Writing sections. TBrandley 19:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Not all parts/sentences have to be paraphrased. But the ones remaining mainly the "Writing" need to be paraphrased. TBrandley 20:05, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense. I'll see if I can give you a hand, but maybe a request at the GCE request page would bear fruit? I know they get backlogged, but they might have a good paraphraser champing at the bit to help a potential GA? - Karenjc 20:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

My First Article Review/Feedback

Can someone review my draft article for me? Just want some feedback before I officially submit it. This is my first article and just need a little confirmation.

I've collapsed removed your article - the Helpdesk is not the place to paste draft articles. I see you wrote it at User:Hitm6337/sandbox, and it's quite OK to invite others to look at it there and offer feedback. It's also not necessary to use large or nonstandard type when asking questions. That said, you're very welcome to Wikipedia and warmly encouraged to join us and improve the encyclopaedia. I'll post some helpful links on your talk page if it's not already been done, and take a look at the article, although it's obviously nowhere near finished yet (no references, for starters). - Karenjc 19:03, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, I've had a quick look. There are various issues, but the article's main problem is that it does not address notability. There is no assertion of why this company is notable enough, by Wikipedia criteria, to have an encyclopaedia article. The article needs to show, with reference to multiple independent reliable sources, how the company satisfies either the general notability guideline or the specific notability guideline for businesses. Unless it does, the article will almost certainly be speedily deleted as soon as it goes live. I have done a Google search and I cannot find any significant independent coverage of the company - no news articles or features about it, just its own website (which doesn't count) and those of companies that list its products. It may be that you can find some sources, but if not, then the company will not satisfy the inclusion criteria at this time. I've now removed the collapsed text from this page. because it doesn't belong in mainspace, and would encourage you to continue working on the article in your sandbox if you feel you can improve it to the point where it satisfies the criteria. - Karenjc 19:21, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about the mistake with the "large. . . nonstandard type" just a habit and due to the fact that i'm still getting use to navigating and working on wikipedia. Also, thanks for the feedback! Really helpful! I'm working on 'notiblility' now. With that being said, do I have to have "sources" for the information outlined in my article being that I got the information directly from the organization itself? I'm a representative of the company as a Social Media Specialist at a sourcing firm who handles their internet presence and my goal is to write a non-bias non-persuassive informational article about their company that could go on wikipedia. I thoroughly understand that we can't "sell" or "persuade" within an encyclopedia article so let me know how I did in that regard as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitm6337 (talk • contribs) 15:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

It's an unfortunately common misconception that Wikipedia is Social Media, it emphatically is not. The biggest problem you have as an "insider" is finding truly independent sources that discuss the subject in significant depth. We're far more interested in what other people have to say about the organization than its own PR. Basically you need to find and use sources such as news articles about the organization (your own press releases don't count, they need to be by truly independent sources). Roger (talk) 15:48, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

If you are indeed working for a company that is paid to manage this organisation's online PR, then you are very strongly discouraged from writing a Wikipedia article about it, I'm afraid. To understand why, take a look at WP:COI and WP:LUC. If you do write such an article, you should seek feedback before posting it to mainspace (as of course you did), clearly disclosing your links to the company (as you have done). Do bear in mind that once that article is live on Wikipedia, you will have no power to control or manage the content, and any other user can (and will) edit it. As regards sources, you can cite an organisation's own website or other publications in a limited fashion, to confirm uncontroversial facts, but you need to show significant coverage in multiple independent sources to support an assertion of notability under the criteria, and without a credible assertion of notability, properly sourced, an article about a company will almost certainly be nominated for speedy deletion as soon as it appears. - Karenjc 22:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

edit conflict

I disagree with a user about the compilation of a page. The article had no reele information so I could easily come in contact with some who might try to find anything about it because the topic is very popular. The user's talk page is full protected permanently, so hvordna should I come in contact with him.? --80.161.143.239 (talk) 20:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

User talk pages shouldn't be fully protected, however some administrators will semi-protect their talk pages due to persistent harassment. Many of them offer an unprotected talk page which you'd be able to edit; aside from that, you could leave a note on the article's talk page. Without more specific information about the article in question or who you're trying to contact, I'm afraid we can't help more. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 20:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I see you tried to contact Tbhotch by adding a message to one of their talk page archives, User talk:Tbhotch/Archive 7, which I have now reverted. Is that who you were talking about trying to contact? Their talk page is protected from moving by anyone other than admins you should be able to edit the talk page and ask your question there. GB fan 15:58, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia app for Android

Hi. The current wikipedia app on my HTC is for browsing only. Is there an app available that will allow me to vand- ER ER ER I MEAN "EDIT" wikipedia instead? 94.1.62.19 (talk) 21:30, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I think this can go without response... Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 21:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

This responsd is typrf, with some difficulyu, uding the broeser thst came installrd on my Android (Samsung) phone. So it is posdible, but I really don't recommend it. Maproom (talk) 21:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC).

Yes, hence why I was wondering if an app had been created to help me make IMPROVEMENTS to wikipedia. 94.1.62.19 (talk) 22:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:MOBILE lists some unofficial apps. See if any of those will do what you want. RudolfRed (talk) 22:28, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I find that I can edit fairly well from the default browser on my Rhyme with my phone's T9 dictionary on. I'm actually writing from my phone now. The easiest edits I make are things that don't require typing like undo and rollback. I'm waiting to make bigger edits until I can use a real computer again, though. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:43, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

CSD criterion

Resolved

Which CSD criterion applies to an empty page in mainspace? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 22:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

{{db-empty}} will give the answer you seek--Jac16888 ^Talk 22:11, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 22:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Tremseh references

Many of the references of Battle of Tremseh are not properly formated i.e. they only contain the name of the external link site. There has already been a complaint with respect to this. I am not in the mood to expand all these sources. What is the approriate template to signal that all sources must contain complete citations? Is there a tool that can expand the incomplete citations? Thanks in advance. --P3Y229 22:16, 18 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by P3Y229 (talk • contribs)

Does {{citation style}} or {{unreliable sources}} help? 71.146.10.213 (talk) 22:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I suggest to use {{Cleanup-link rot}} to tag the article. As for the tool, see WP:REFLINKS. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 22:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Javed Singapuri

Help me to prevent deletion of the article. Xentram (talk) 23:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

No, sorry, the subject of the article is not notable according to our criteria. Arcandam (talk) 23:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I have declined the speedy deletion request, as it did not qualify for any of the criteria for speedy deletion. However, be aware that the article is likely to be deleted via the more deliberative Articles for Deletion discussion process. You're going to have to establish a more substantial article, with some significant references to reliable sources that show that a substantial number of sources have discussed the life of Javed Singapuri in some real depth. If you can't find evidence of that writing anywhere in the world, I forsee the article being deleted. If you can find that source text, it won't be. It is that simple. All that Wikipedia articles need to be kept is substantial source material to draw from when writing the article. No source material means no article. The source material needs to be both independent (i.e. not written by or at the behest of the subject) and reliable as defined by Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Good luck expanding and improving the article. --Jayron32 23:53, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

July 19

Wikipedia Book

[[2]]

• Hello, above is the link showing a book of Wikipedia.The website is selling the book too costly.I want to ask if this book is officially sold by Wikipedia or by its afflicted store? Thanks.14.97.56.134 (talk) 00:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Nope, completely unaffiliated with Wikipedia. People are allowed to reuse Wikipedia content for their own purposes, including putting in a book and selling it, so long as they adhere to the terms of Wikipedia's licenses, GFDL and CC-BY-SA. Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content and Wikipedia:Buying Wikipedia articles in print or another form has information which is relevent. --Jayron32 00:29, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Republishers. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 01:12, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually, at first glance that book appears to be about Wikipedia, not Wikipedia sourced. Rojomoke (talk) 05:55, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd have rather grave doubts about the reliabilty of a book that refers to Wikipedia as a company in the title! Roger (talk) 06:44, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

All the cool companies are non-profit nowadays. Arcandam (talk) 15:34, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Maybe this is a good alternative? Help:TMM Woz2 (talk) 15:59, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

he correct writing of einstein'ts theory of general relativity

My search has turned up at least three different way to present the equation for special relativity or general relativity. I don't which. I find: E=MC2; e=mc2; E=mc2 e=MC2. There must one correct way to write the equation.

bill freeman

Thanks for your attention — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billfreeman8888 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

E = mc² is the correct way. The number 2 is in superscript. In mathematics, high superscripts are used to indicate that one number or variable is raised to the power of another number or variable. Thus y⁴ is y raised to the fourth power, 2^x is 2 raised to the power of x, and the famous equation E = mc² includes a term for the speed of light squared. Thanks to the MediaWiki extension Math we can make it look pretty: $E=mc^{2}\,\!$ Arcandam (talk) 01:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I know it was not your question, but that famous equation does not in any sense sum up general relativity: it is a rather significant and simple consequence of the theory, but not part of the theory. The equation does not even occur in that form in our general relativity article. --ColinFine (talk) 07:57, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

A Question

Just asking for trivia : Has Wikipedia been sued by anybody in past? Xentram (talk) 01:40, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

See List of litigation involving the Wikimedia Foundation for a partial list. --Jayron32 02:20, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Email

Is it possible for a Wikipedia article to be emailed? If yes, how? 69.151.250.124 (talk) 01:40, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Sharebox is a script that reorders your toolbox. It adds new buttons that make it easier to mail, print or share an article on Facebook or another linksharing service. You must have an account to add Sharebox to the sidebar. See User:TheDJ/Sharebox for more information. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 01:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Question About Using Presidential Portraits

On the Presidential portrait page I downloaded and added a lot of high resolution Presidential portraits for various U.S. Presidents. I got all of those high resolution portraits from this site-- http://www.whitehouseresearch.org/assetbank-whha/action/viewHome. Is it legal for me to download high resolution Presidential portraits from this site and put them on Wikipedia? For the record, some other people did the same thing before I did it, so I'm assuming that it is legal. However, I just want to make sure. Thank you. Futurist110 (talk) 05:36, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

The Rights & Reproductions Guidelines; page on that site explicitly prohibits "Internet distribution", "Electronic compilations" and "use of high-resolution images on websites"

Rojomoke (talk) 06:03, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

So you're saying that all these high definition portraits should be deleted? Isn't there a rule in Wikipedia about being able to use non-free images if there are no equivalent quality images anywhere online? Futurist110 (talk) 06:09, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure fair use doesn't apply here. You should also check out Wikipedia:Non-free content as our standards are actually stricter than the law allows. Rojomoke (talk) 06:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I think you should ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions where the copyright experts live, since the situation may be more complicated than that. See, for example, the "public domain" explanation at File:Dwight D. Eisenhower, official Presidential portrait.jpg. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I think those image uses need to be carefully reviewed. For example, I took a quick look at File:Bclinton.jpeg. Was Simmie Knox really an officer or employee of the US government when he made that image? For example, if he was not employed by the US government but instead was only ordered by them to make that portrait, then I think it would not be in the public domain. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 09:09, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Information for students in Gujarati Langauge

Sir we are facing problem for getting information in Gujarati langauge. Students from Gujarat state (country-India) wants to learn cross culture information/ history etc through the media of Google /wikipeadia frequently. School teachers are also encouraging students for using google/wikipedia for getting various information. For example : I am facing problem for searching "Berlin wall history" in Gujarati langauge. In langauge option Gujarati is not available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.88.142.34 (talk) 08:54, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

There is a Gujarati Wikipedia available here; it's less comprehensive than the English one but may be of more use to your students. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:02, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia - in any language - is created by volunteers: articles exist only if somebody has spent the time and effort to create them. You are right that Berlin Wall does not have a Gujerati link: this is because nobody has written an article on the Berlin Wall in the Gujerati Wikipedia (or just possibly it could mean that there is such an article, but nobody has linked it to the English article - but this is unlikely). Perhaps you could get some of your students to improve the Gujerati Wikipedia by writing such an article (or translating it from English or another language). --ColinFine (talk) 14:40, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

How do I recreate a (previously) deleted page?

I want to create a page about a band - back in 2010 a page was created by someone else and deleted due to "No explanation of the subject's significance".

Fortunately, the band is still around and there is a much stronger case for their significance, and hence a renewed need for a wiki page for them (I'll make the case in the new article).

I can't see from the page itself (MilkDrive) how to recreate it. I don't need access to the deleted pages - I'm going to create all new content - and I'll stay away from advertising and copyright infringing. Can someone give me the steps to recreate a deleted page?

Thanks. ZoneAlarm5 (talk) 10:55, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

The protection log entry says: "Repeatedly recreated". Follow the link. You could try creating a sourced version satisfying WP:BAND at User:ZoneAlarm5/sandbox before making a request. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia guidelines do not talk about 'significance': this is a common misconception. What they talk about is 'notability', which is defined in a specific way in Wikipedia: whether or not multiple independent reliable sources (such as newspapers, magazines, book, or professionally edited websites) have talked about them. That is what you would need to show, by citing where such articles etc. had been published. --ColinFine (talk) 14:43, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

"A7: No explanation of the subject's significance" is actually a quote from the deletion log of MilkDrive. Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#A7 is policy and uses the term significance. It refers to what the article itself claims, whether it's sourced or not. No claim of significance is a reason for speedy deletion (deletion without discussion) for some types of articles. ColinFine refers to Wikipedia:Notability which is a guideline often used in deletion discussions for articles where speedy deletion may not apply. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:51, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution Process

I tried to get answer previously but since my post was bad i didnt a answer.

What procedures are left if you get to formal mediation and can not get a consensus?

Because i am about to put request for comment live soon regarding 2 articles but there is about 100 users involved in the dispute and about 30-40 heavily involved.

Depending on the outcome there is about 40-50 articles that might be affected by the decision and because one side of the argument will be under happy that will be 40-50 articles on full protection indefinitely which is pretty bad.

so that why i am wondering if there is anything past formal mediation like possible arbcom or similar?--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 11:17, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

To what dispute are you referring exactly. Ruslik_Zero 11:21, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

please see User:Andrewcrawford/mydraft that has all the information for the request for comment i am doing it should shed some background and what has been happening will take to long to explain--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 12:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

i would appendices any responses to this so i know where this is heading if a consensus is not reached by formal mediation, so i can start preparing for that--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 18:17, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Can I keep my sandbox out of google searches?

Dear Friends__ My sandbox version of a Wiki page I have written seems to appear in Google searches for the subject of the page. Since the sandbox page was preliminary and contains errors, I am eager for it not to be public and not to show up in Google searches. Is there some way for me to make my sandbox more private? Many thanks, __Steve Greco

s — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevegreco1 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

You can add __NOINDEX__ to the top of the page. This will prevent the page from being indexed again during Googles next crawling. The page might still appear for a while however in recent Google searches. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 14:15, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

For more info, see WP:NOINDEX. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 14:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I thought some search engines ignored the __NOINDEX__ parameter?

watchlist

If I put a page on my 'watchlist', how do I get back to it? Someone left me a message/reply on a question I asked yesterday and now when i go to my 'watchlist' tab, I can't find it. Kind of frustrated with the navigation of wikipedia but not complaining too much because it could just be me but I feel that things could be more simple in reference to accessing and viewing stuff that you had involvement with on the site. Syntax is overbearing in my opinion but I will work on getting better — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitm6337 (talk • contribs) 14:38, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

You may want to scroll up just a little. Or click this link. You can find a list of your edits by clicking the "My contributions" link in the top-right corner. Arcandam (talk) 14:45, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Url triggers spam filter

Resolved

The url

http://finance.mapsofworld.com/merger-acquisition/company/videocon-daewoo.html

triggers the spam filter when I try to save a page with it? Why is that link on the blacklist? Should I file a request to get it removed from the blacklist? Wikipedia:Spam blacklist#Requests for delisting says I "should give compelling evidence as to why it should be delisted". Is the fact that I want to cite the url compelling evidence that it should be delisted? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 14:55, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

It shouldn't be delisted. If you just need to reference a specific page, then you can request it's link be "whitelisted" at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist. See here (and here for more info). But it is not unlikely that someone will refuse to whitelist it because it has a rather bad reputation. Arcandam (talk) 15:05, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I found another source for the information which I added to the links collection at User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Daewoo. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:15, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

The fact that you want it delisted is hardly evidence at all, unless you tell us why you want to add the link, what you want to add it too, etc. Looking at the linked page, I can't see what use it is supposed to be anyway - it clearly wouldn't meet WP:RS requirements, in that no indication whatsoever is given as to who the author is, or whether there is any editorial control. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:17, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Right now, I don't want to add anything to the Daewoo article. I merely want to collect some sources in my userspace to expand the article later. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:25, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

regarding induction motor text books or manuals

can i get material regarding induction motors and faulta such as broken bar,locked rotor,inter turn and under voltage on induction motors — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.211.160.33 (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:43, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

How to undo criticism box at top of WildEarth Guardians page

The box at the top of the page was added in May 2010. The article has been rewritten hopefully in a more neutral tone in June 2012. How does the article get reviewed and the box from a 2010 review get removed? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helpingwg (talk • contribs) 15:31, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

It is not a criticism box. The purpose of the {{COI}} tag is to highlight to readers that some content might have been written by someone closely related to the subject - something that is discouraged by Wikipedia's policies. In the case of the WildEarth Guardians article, it seems that Omerpearlman (talk · contribs) repeatedly copied content from the organization's website, wrote with a promotional tone and added inappropriate external links. This is what caused the {{COI}} tag to be added. As far as I can tell, it is unusual for such a tag to be removed, unless it can be shown that subsequent editing by uninvolved editors has changed the article sufficiently. Maybe someone else has a different view, but with a username like "helpingwg", you don't convince me that you are independent of the subject and your writing is therefore free of any COI concerns. Astronaut (talk) 16:38, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Need snapshot of Taylor Brook just before it was deleted

I'm attempting to write a new version of Taylor Brook that includes support for notability. Could an admin copy-paste a snapshot of the wikitext just before it was deleted into my sandbox User:Woz2/Taylor Brook ? Cheers! Woz2 (talk) 15:57, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

If the old text is used, you will need to keep the old history too for the purposes of attribution for our licensing. That means you won't just be able to snag the text, you'd have to have the article undeleted and moved somewhere first. You may find an admin willing to WP:USERFY the article for you though, so that you can work on it before it's reconsidered for inclusion. BigNate37_(T) 17:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer! Cheers! Woz2 (talk) 18:31, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done--SPhilbrick(Talk) 20:41, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Update Logo

Hello,

I would like to update the Logo of the "Gates and Partners" page. The logo shows "Gates and Partners Solicitors" and I would like to update it to "Gates and Partners LLP" as we have changed our structure. How can I do that please? Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mags Waggy (talk • contribs) 17:12, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, here is a link to the Upload File wizard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Upload Woz2 (talk) 17:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC) 17:51, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

You may be better off going to the image on commons and just using the 'upload new version' link at the bottom of the page. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gates_logo.jpg --Canoe1967 (talk) 18:28, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Confusion - Round 3

 Unresolvable. Waste of time. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 22:14, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

An article like In der Falle is appropriate as a standalone article because .... How does this sentence end? See the two AfDs linked at the top of Talk:In der Falle. Does WP:BKCRIT#5 really justify an article like that? Some explanation would be appreciated, although I am sure I won't get it this time as well. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 17:39, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

...if a wikinoob writes a bookreview it is much easier for them to expand an existing stub than creating an article. But I agree this one is a bit minimalistic. Arcandam (talk) 18:58, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Seems like a correct interpretation of WP:BKCRIT#5 to me. Herta Müller is rather notable. Whether or not you agree that #5 there is a reasonable and sufficient criteria for notability or not is a separate issue. You also might want to consider what WP:Stub says about why we have stubs. For my two cents, deleting stubs simply raises the barrier to entry for Wikipedia articles. If that is a change you want to make, it can't be done on the individual article level. BigNate37_(T) 19:07, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, in which way does WP:REDUNDANTFORK not apply to In der Falle then, given the information present at Herta Müller#Works? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:30, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Because a content fork is the creation of multiple separate articles all treating the same subject. (emphasis mine) The subject of the article In der Falle is not the same as the subject of the article Herta Müller. Arcandam (talk) 20:51, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Presently the stub is short enough that the content is entirely reproduced elsewhere. That does not mean that the article subject in its entirety is covered elsewhere though. A content fork is "the creation of multiple separate articles all treating the same subject," and that is not the case here. In der Falle is an article on a book. Herta Müller is about an author, and the Works section is a list—inclusion on a list does not make an article a fork. There is massive precedent for lists on Wikipedia. Consider eventualism as it pertains to stubs: why would we delete a stub simply because it's not been filled out to the point where it has value? That kind of rationale would see a very large number of articles suddenly appearing at AfD. Per WP:BKCRIT#5 its notability has been established. If there are problems, they should be solved, but I'm just not seeing how deletion is that solution in this case. BigNate37_(T) 20:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

By that logic I could for example, looking at our current FA Manchester Ship Canal, create the articles History of Manchester Ship Canal, Present day Manchester Ship Canal, Route of the Manchester Ship Canal and Ecology of the Manchester Ship Canal. Those articles would even have a considerable length and are well referenced. Are you saying this would be appropriate? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 21:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Summary style articles, with sub-articles giving greater detail, are not forks. Present day Manchester Ship Canal wouldn't be a good title, we would call it Manchester Ship Canal. The route of the canal is not notable in itself. If you can find enough sources we would welcome an article about the Ecology of the Manchester Ship Canal. Arcandam (talk) 21:13, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps, and it wouldn't be completely unprecedented. I think what this comes down to is your disagreement with the book notability guideline. It isn't a foregone conclusion that the article must exist, given that the notability guideline is just that—a guideline—and it's quite clear that the criteria are just rules of thumb. Had you not already nominated the article twice for deletion I would suggest you take it up with RfC, but as it stands that would border on forum shopping. Consensus seems to have formed on the matter already. BigNate37_(T) 21:17, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

As for "...short enough that the content is entirely reproduced elsewhere." If an article is short and its entire content is reproduced elsewhere, it should be a redirect to the place, where the content is reproduced, unless I am missing something about the purpose of redirects. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 21:10, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, we usually don't use redirects to avoid having a stub about a notable subject. Arcandam (talk) 21:16, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

No, you are missing the purpose of stubs. There are many articles that need more content. Fixing that means writing more content, not deleting them. BigNate37_(T) 21:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

@Arcandam The notability of those one-line stubs is solely based on WP:BKCRIT#5. But it seems I will have to accept that, though I still think a one line stub without any significant information shouldn't exist.

@BigNate37 I do not think those stubs will ever have an amount of content that cannot reasonably be mentioned in the Herta Muller article. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 21:30, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

What is the goal of this conversation? Do you need info or are you just venting frustration? Look, we as a community decided on a few criteria to determine which books are notable. This book is notable. Therefore it has an article. The notability of those one-line stubs is solely based on mah authoritah. Arcandam (talk) 21:35, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

That's fair, Toshio. I don't even really disagree with you. I'm not familiar with the subject matter, and I'm not good at writing about books that I have read. But I don't think this is a struggle you're going to win. BigNate37_(T) 21:44, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I really have nothing more to say regarding this matter. My comments aren't the result of frustration on my part. And I agree that this a battle that I am not going to win, so I am dropping it. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 22:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Btw, WP:NOT#DICDEF#1. Just sayin'. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 22:28, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

As the creator of both WP:BK and of much the the content of Barfüßiger Februar, the article the second AfD focused on (though not its creator) I guess I should comment. I no longer believe in any of the subject specific guidelines including WP:BK. Everything should rise and fall by the GNG; there are either sufficient, reliable sources to sustain an article or there are not. Anyway, despite this, as secondary indicators of notability go, I think WP:BKCRIT#5 is fairly reasonable. The written works of a person whose life and written work is the common subject of study in academia is likely to have sufficient reliable sources to sustain an article, and here I think the main issue is that those sources do exist and have just not been used to write the more expansive article yet that is warranted. The only reason I didn't expand it beyond its stub status is that I don't speak German, so using the many sources that can be found with a simple Google Book search, for example, was difficult for me to take on. I think you need to separate in your mind the difference between notability existing, and notability shown through the sources present in the content of an article, which is a distinction I don't think you're drawing clearly enough by your comments here and at the AfDs. Notability exists or does not exist, regardless of what appears in an article's body at any given time. We don't even need to analyze WP:BKCRIT#5 for Barfüßiger Februar – it actually meets the GNG.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:22, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I admit that my attitude may be flawed here. I will have a look at the sources your Google search brings up and see what I can do with them regarding an improvement of the book articles. I guess I need to reconsider some things and hope that I will be able to improve my attitutde. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 14:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Question about page proctection

i posted this earlier Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_page_protection#extension_of_proctection_and_downgrading_from_full_to_semi to ask question on page protection but since there been no reply i assume the talk pages aint watch much can someoen clarify my questions here please--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 18:12, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

You asked that four hours before this request. Please have some patience! We are all volunteers. --ColinFine (talk) 22:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Section titles and anchors

Template:Anchor suggests using the tag within section titles to protect against broken section links. I've used this a few times at least, to insulate section redirects against section title changes. However I noticed that when editing a section with an anchor in the title, the edit summary's section appears with the entire anchor in the middle of it. This is clearly a bad thing, and it leaves me wondering whether the advice at {{anchor}} should be altered. I see three possible ways to use {{anchor}} in this manner:

1. Before the section title:

   {{anchor|Section title linked from elsewhere}}

   == Section title ==

2. In the section title, per Template:Anchor/doc:

   =={{anchor|Section title linked from elsewhere}} Section title ==

3. After the section title:

   == Section title ==

   {{anchor|Section title linked from elsewhere}}

But they each have their own problems. Before the section title, the anchor is technically a part of a previous section, which means edits relating to it will have misleading summaries, and editors editing the previous section will not have the context for why the anchor is there. As above, in the section title, edit summaries get FUBAR'd. Placing an anchor after the section title causes the section title to appear slightly off-screen when a user is linked to it. So what is the right way to handle this? BigNate37_(T) 20:37, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

This has been discussed extensively at Template talk:Anchor, and, so far, no one has come up with a solution. Of the possible fixes discussed there, I think the best is to put the anchor within the heading, and log a MediaWiki enhancement request to stop the edit summary getting damaged. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:23, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

plz write omething about jordan maxwell

i feel like lot of other humanbeing around the world there hould be a page of JORDAN MAXWELL.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.202.192.178 (talk) 21:09, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Consider using Wikipedia:Requested articles. Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:39, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure there are many Jordan Maxwells in the world, so without some more info I can't say whether the one you're referring to is notable enough for an article. You could create an account and start the article yourself. Dismas|^(talk) 21:40, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

nl:Jordan Maxwell (a conspiracytheorist) seems to be the most likely candidate. Arcandam (talk) 21:48, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I need HELP with Trojan horse infections on my computer, PLEASE!

Recently my computer had started doing things out the ordinary. Playing random videos and audio, taking longer to load, and showing rather dirty content. I had microsoft security essentials acting as my antivirus but when I tried to run a scan it was completely disabled! like the trojan just wiped it out. I downloaded free AVG which didn't have a problem detecting the trojan but couldn't take care of it. I got free MBAM and it didn't do as well as AVG so I got Emsisoft. Ran the scan and it supposedly fixed it but when I restarted my computer I had more. I have done this a number of times over the past day and a half. Emsisoft has successfully eliminated one trojan but now my problem is HUGE! more Trojans and "backdoor" viruses have now presented themselves! it seems as if everytime I try to fix this problem it gets worse. I am a student I can't afford to lose my computer. can someone please help me? I created this specifically for this. THANKS SO MUCH — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccing2 (talk • contribs) 22:42, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:RDC is the proper place for such a request, but since we're here, first you should try starting it in Safe mode then running System restore to a date you're sure it wasn't infected. If that's no good you'll have to reinstall windows--Jac16888 ^Talk 22:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Submitting a Biography

How do I submit a Biography I have put together from scratch on a prominent Naval Officer? Ghills33 (talk) 23:26, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

There are a few ways. You are allowed to just move it to mainspace as a confirmed user. It may get fixed, tagged for deletion, or just left alone (rare). You could also put a link to it here or other forums. Since you started here this may be best. We can always move the discussion. You can link it like my cat article. User:Canoe1967/My Cat--Canoe1967 (talk) 23:33, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Normally articles are written directly in Wikicode, not created in a word-processor and then converted. What you absolutely cannot do is have an article with almost no content somehow pointing to a Word file, because nobody can look at what you have written!

There are some tools to convert from Word format, but I don't know how easy they are to use, or how effective: Help:WordToWiki may help you.But in future, I strongly recommend that you work directly in Wikipedia. See WP:YFA. --ColinFine (talk) 09:17, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

July 20

New article

Hi! I'm completing a new article. Although all of the sources are reliable (third-party), some are not online (print only) but I have scanned copies of them. Kindly suggest what is the best course of action to take. Thank! Rodwinoloresisimo (talk) 00:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

You may simply cite them as described at Wikipedia:Citing sources, you do not need to upload "proof" of what is in them if that is what you are implying. There is a large selection of templates for sources/references/citations at Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles. See our article on Elizabeth II for example, which has numerous references and a large bibliography. Let us know if you have further questions. BigNate37_(T) 00:58, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, that was a bad link to give you. Wikipedia:Citation templates is your best bet for citations templates (funny how that works out). BigNate37_(T) 01:00, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

If the source is a book or magazine, {{cite book}} or {{cite journal}} are used. Mjroots (talk) 10:42, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I will also note that we can't used scanned copies of articles here, since scans can easily be altered in this era of Photoshopping. This bears repeating and emphasizing: there has never been, and probably never will be, any requirement that references used in articles must be accompanied with an internet link. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:01, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Template not working

Resolved

The wraparound feature of {{Gatorade National Basketball Player of the Year}} is not working correctly in Michelle Marciniak, Stephon Marbury and Felipe López (basketball). When you click show in Google Chrome, Firefox or MSIE it expands well beyond the width of the page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:40, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

They all look fine for me in both Firefox 14 and IE9. BigNate37_(T) 04:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes. They are all working now. I don't know what was going on.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:52, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Subject would like section removed and photo changed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany_Binger

I am writing on behalf of Ms. Binger. I attempted to edit the page for her, but I do not have enough edits under my account by which to do anything past minor edits.

She would like her official photo changed to this: http://visionlosangeles.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/BrittVision_2_Print-419x630.jpg from her agency's page for her. She also requests that any references to Playboy be removed, or at least the "Playboy Centerfold Apperance" in the right-hand side panel. She is trying to distance herself from that brand.

Sizemorefan (talk) 04:43, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your directness. Our current photograph of Brittany Binger is provided under a free license, and to consider a replacement photograph we would require that it also be freely licensed. Please see our Image use policy for details. We cannot accept files of unknown license status. I have copied your requests to the talk page for her article, where they should be seen by editors who are familiar with the article about her already. I cannot personally promise you any action, however. BigNate37_(T) 05:06, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

A few additional points. First, we cannot use pictures that are not uploaded to Wikipedia, and images without a compatible license must be uploaded by the copyright holder personally or by someone with direct permission to do so. Secondly, the criteria for choosing which pictures appear in an article are pretty standardized according to the rules of the Wikipedian Community. These rules do not typically take into account the wishes of the article's subject. Likewise, as long as the content of an article does not violate any laws, it is the community that decides what information is presented in an article, not the subject. So, again, there may not be any action on your requests. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 05:21, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Infobox width

{{Infobox}} contains style="width:22em;, hard-coding its width, and that of other templates that transclude it. Is there a reason for this, and/or a way to change it? Wouldn't a percentage make more sense (or, better, leave it up to something editable/overridable, like the user's common.css)? I notice that there is an "infobox" class in MW/common.css, with a width of 22em, showing some intent to do this. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:06, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

you could try mentioning that on the template's talk page. benzband (talk) 09:26, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikiquette question

Before I start, I'm not sure this is the right place for this kind of question, so please redirect me to the right place if it's not. I'm not using names or linking to specifics about the situation, because I don't believe it's necessary, and I don't want this to be seen as a personal attack on the editor I am discussing. I'm not looking for support on this issue, but rather guidance for situations like this.

I recently found copyrighted material on an article, so I blanked it using {{copyvio}}, and added {{subst:Nothanks-web|pg=ArticleName|url=URL}} to the contributing editor's talk page, according to the instructions on the template (and reported it on Wikipedia:Copyright problems). However, the editor has strongly asserted that they did not add the material in their replies — despite being given a link to the contributing edit with their account name, and acknowledging possession of the account when the edit was made. The editor has suggested there may have been two accounts with the same name, but as far as I understand, that's not possible. I suggested the editor may have forgotten making the contribution, as it was added in early 2006, but the editor assures me this is not the case.

If account names are unique, and I am to assume the editor is truthful in saying they did not add the material, it means this editor's account was compromised, and I presume there is some procedure for this. Conversely, if the editor has forgotten their edit, or is choosing to avoid responsibility for it, the procedure for dealing with a compromised account would be unnecessary — and I feel saying something along the lines of "if this edit was not made by you, it means your account was compromised, and you need to..." might make the editor feel like I am trying to drag some kind of confession out of them — which I'm not!

The editor doesn't seem to have had any other problems with copyright violations, and while they haven't been active recently, they have made substantial useful contributions to some articles, and I don't want to put them off editing in the future. Their replies to my notice show me they are currently well aware of Wikipedia's copyright policy, and I doubt they would add any copyrighted material in the future.

1st question — Can somebody verify that there can't be two simultaneous account with the same name?

2nd question — Do I:

1. leave it, assuming they are being truthful, thereby leaving their account compromised?
2. leave it, assuming they made the edit despite their assertions, and therefore their account is fine?
3. inform the editor that there account must have been compromised? If so, what do I tell them to do?
4. do something else?

TimofKingsland (talk) 05:43, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Your account name is the way that the software identifies you. Except under exceptional circumstances (changing usernames or usurpation), no two accounts can exist with the same name, and never simultaneously. I assume it is not an IP address we are discussing, but rather a named account? Is it possible that the edit in question was made by a user whose name is simply deceptively similiar, e.g. a lowercase 'L' in place of an uppercase 'I'? As far as your second question goes, you have already brought the matter to the user's attention, so if their account was compromised in 2006, it's relatively safe to assume it no longer is. If you'd like to press the matter, you could suggest that the user changes his/her password. Since they have a history of good contributions, I would not let this one matter cause a large problem—the copyvio was fixed, and that's what's important.

2006 was a long time ago. I was browsing my edit history from back then and I could barely remember making half of those comments, so what actually happened is not only unimportant, but difficult to remember with any certainty anyways. BigNate37_(T) 05:59, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

On a purely speculative note, the power goes out here often enough that it has intersected with two of my edits in the last two years, one as a registered user, one before that as an IP. One was credited to me, and contained changes I had not made, and the other included my changes in another edit, with no indication I'd been there. While it's possible another user edited if the account was left logged in, this is old enough that pursuing it seems unnecessary. Dru of Id (talk) 07:27, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Or it could be that the person was in a computer lab or internet cafe or some other public venue and didn't log off. Anyway, It's a bit embarrassing that I was the first person to edit the article after the initial posting and didn't find the copyvio, which I would have looked for today immediately, given the tone of the writing, but I was a fairly new editor back then.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

@BigNate37 — Yeah, it wasn't an IP address, and I clicked the User link from the edit summary, so no chance of typos in the name. I agree the account is unlikely to still be compromised. @Dru of Id — It's possible what happened to you is what happened with this edit, thanks for that. @Fuhghettaboutit - To use your own words, "fuhghettaboutit" — I'd be embarrassed by the edits I did when I first started editing. We were all newbies to begin with.

Leaving the account logged in on a public computer didn't even cross my mind, and this could well be what happened. It does seem unlikely someone would hack an account only to copy a few paragraphs about an organisation from their website once. I think the editor just forgot, as I just noticed the edit created an article that would have fixed a red link in one of the only two articles that editor had worked on, which seems like too much of a coincidence. I thought there could be some policy regarding this that I'd missed somewhere, and I also just wanted some input from others. Based on what you've all said, and my own instincts, I think I'll just leave it alone. Thanks to everyone for your input. TimofKingsland (talk) 10:03, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Have you thought that he could have worked on the other articles, stayed logged in, someone came by and decided to fix the red link using his login?--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Adam Leigh re the death of model Caroline Byrnes

Hi, Im Adam Leigh, As suggested in the article, my name has been dragged through the mud on speculation, Please remove my name from said issue as I dont know how to do it myself. If it continues, I will ask of you contact information of anybody posting any more defamatory remarks so I can proceed to deal with it and any further defamatory publication of my name. Thank you Adam Leigh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.119.27.17 (talk) 09:10, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

The information has been removed by Hajatvrc (talk · contribs). benzband (talk) 09:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done Typically, info is not removed from Wikipedia because of a subject's wishes, even when they make legal threats. But in this case the references to you were poorly sourced and probably not notable enough to be included in the article. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 09:41, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

categories in loop: is there a tool?

I am looking for a tool able to find loops within categories (e.g. a category belonging to one of its subcats)... does a thing like this exist?--Nickanc (talk) 10:30, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

The page Wikipedia:Database reports/Self-categorized categories is updated weekly, but only lists the easy cases where a category is listed as its own parent. The page Wikipedia:Dump reports/Category cycles covers the general case but was last updated in May; you could perhaps ask Svick (talk · contribs) to update it. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:25, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! :)--Nickanc (talk) 12:37, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Add signature button to javascript form

Anyone with javascript skills able to add (or provide the code for adding) the signature button with the functionality of placing four tildes, as it provides in the editing toolbar, to MediaWiki:Gadget-teahouse/content.js, right after the text "... sign all of your posts by ending them with four tildes (~~~~)"? This regards the question at Wikipedia talk:Teahouse#Add a question from mobile devices. Obviously, if anyone has a different way of solving the issue, please advise or take appropriate action. Thanks.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:59, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Please don't take action before we come to an agreement at the talk page in question, thank you! heather walls (talk) 11:31, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Contents bar

hi , the thing is that i created a page but the small Contents bar is not displayed. http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF_%DB%8C%D8%A7%D8%B3%DB%8C%D9%86 , this is the page. any kind of tip is appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SadeghFrz (talk • contribs) 12:20, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Since that page is part of the Persian Wikipedia, you'd do better to ask at their help desk, fa:ویکی‌پدیا:میز_کمک. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:38, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Image uploading question

hi I'm trying to upload images to my article. I have got permission for the images from the owner and sent it to the email address given but I am having problems uploading the images. Ihave resized them and they are jpegs so I don't understand why they are not being uploaded. The other question is when uploaded how do I then access them to embed into my articleJkidner (talk) 12:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Does WP:Picture Tutorial help? --ColinFine (talk) 15:02, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Donor Card

A long while ago I joind the Donor Transplant Group by donating everything that is usable on my death I have lost my purse that the card was kept to remind anyone of my wishes on death.

I don't know where to go to get another card to replace it.

Jill — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.95.19 (talk) 13:10, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:11, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

That said, this is probably the best place to start... Yunshui 雲‍水 13:14, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Assuming Jill is in the UK. --ColinFine (talk) 15:03, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

She is. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:08, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Using re-election website as source

I recently wrote an article on Anthony DeVitis and the source I used had little information. There is some useful information, not a lot, at his relection website. The material would be okay per WP:SPS; however, I'm a bit wary on linking readers to that site. In addition, the source I used (his House page) doesn't show anything under the education section. (Go here and click on education) Both sources stated that he attended the University of Akron. I am under the impression, especially after reading his relection website, that he did not finish. I know it would be OR to state that; however, how should I mention his education in the article? Stating that he attended the University of Akron implies that he graduated from there, which is probably not true. Currently I make no mention of his education. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:46, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

To note, the information that I would like to add is his birth place. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:56, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

To me, "attended" means only that (ie, not "graduated") but you could extend it to "attended classes at" which might make it better to some who disagree with me. Dismas|^(talk) 16:05, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

disambiguate UWO, Please.

The acronym UWO is being used by DeWalt tools to describe torque output on some of their screwdrivers/drills. The acronym UWO is representative of Unit Watts Out. When trying to discover this I spent more time than I was comfortable with searching results and finding only articles referencing University of western Ontario or some Ultima Online crap. Please help out an old school chap and help us power tool users research online tool purchases more easily. Thank you for your time and service! -angus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.13.114.59 (talk) 14:58, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but a buyers' guide or catalogue is one of the many things that Wikipedia is not. If UWO (= Unit Watts Out) meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability then there may be an article on it, but not every meaning of an initialism should necessarily be included in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 15:07, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like a variation of Shaft horsepower. Motors can be rated by input and output power. A 1 hp motor is actually the output, the input can be 5-60% higher depending. If enough companies adopt that term we could create it as a re-direct to the proper article?--Canoe1967 (talk) 21:45, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Question

"Don't use double quotes - quotes within article/webpage titles should use single quotes". Could that be explained, it is for source review on the FAC page for an article. Thanks, TBrandley 15:06, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Does MOS:QUOTEMARKS clarify the matter? --ColinFine (talk) 15:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

contact

hi iam pursing my 4th year b.tech civil enng belongs to andhrapradesh kadapa i need information how 2 contact mettupetty dam office staff , because we are very intrested to visit that project basically we belongs civil branch.............actullay we need permission to visit dam, so please send me the contact numbers of that project thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.213.150.143 (talk) 15:18, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

This page is for help about using Wikipedia. Please visit the Reference desk. --Jprg1966 ^(talk) 15:24, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Larger Urban Zones

I don't know where else to turn now. The page Larger Urban Zones lists the LUZs in descending order of population.

The issue I have is with Leeds, which is listed as Leeds-Bradford in the list (at position 22). There is no such thing as Leeds-Bradford, or at least not officially. In the official list of LUZs, Leeds is listed as Leeds as you can see here: http://www.urbanaudit.org/CityCountryPDFLongList.aspx

Like I've mentioned on the article's discussion page, if Leeds is going to be incorrectly referred to as Leeds-Bradford, then Birmingham must be listed as Birmingham-Wolverhampton and Manchester as Manchester-Salford etc. The other option is to write what is actually on the official website and just call it Leeds, not Leeds-Bradford.

Currently, the page lists Leeds as Leeds because I have just edited it, but this page is constantly edited back to Leeds-Bradford. Please, PLEASE, nobody responds to me on the discusion page and I've provided a link to the official source, please can someone fix this permanently? So that it can't be changed back without whoever is doing it explaining themselves? --Tubs uk (talk) 16:13, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

If you'd like to address the person making the change directly then you can go through the history tab for that article, find the person and leave a message on their talk page. (I glanced at the history for this article and it would be easier if more people left comments describing their edit.) RJFJR (talk) 16:27, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I can see your point, but I can also see why somebody might object to the entry for Leeds in the list linking to Leeds, which is an article about Leeds, not the Leeds LUZ. In any case, what you have is a content dispute, for which we have a dispute resolution process. I suggest you start by dropping the tone of "I'm obviously right and anybody who disagrees with me is obviously wrong". There's no way to "fix it permanently" in any case: Wikipedia works on consensus. Perhaps the table should have a column which names and links to all the significant places within each LUZ. --ColinFine (talk) 22:40, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

"Save page" has become unreliable

This is driving me nuts... I've been using the same computer (ZT), OS (Win7), browser (Chrome), and preferences for years and never had a problem, but in the past few days the "Save page" button has become unreliable. I edit, hit "Save page", and the unedited version of the article appears and there's nothing in the History. I've lost quite a few edits. Some times it works fine, but about 1 time in 4 it fails and I've no idea why. Help! --Woz2 (talk) 16:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Content Erased

Hello, I was just updating our team page and after spending hours and hours and all of my information was erased and back to the old content.

I would like an explanation for this please!

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realmaryland (talk • contribs) 17:10, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

It was block reverted by a "Bot", an automatic program, due to the link you tried to add to a fanpage, which I just removed again since such links are not appropriate. Please also take note that it is not your page, and have a read of WP:COI--Jac16888 ^Talk 17:34, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

two identical pages

There is a page in Wikipedia on Joule expansion and one on Free expansion, but this are two identical types of expansion with just a different name. I propose to direct readers from the Free expansion page (which is poorly developed) to the Joule expansion page.

Adwaele (talk) 19:40, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

They do appear to me to be the same process, so I encourage you to go ahead with your merge. But I think that first, you should discuss it on the talk pages of the two articles. Maproom (talk) 20:00, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

You might want to consider proposing and executing a merge instead. Cheers!Woz2 (talk) 20:04, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Locating articles by subheading/section

I was wondering if there is a way to find all of the articles that have a particular subheading/section, specifically, I was interested in all of the articles that have the "In popular culture" section. Is there a way to filter by this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcarter14 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

A search like this one for the phrase "In popular culture" may get you part of the way. Towards the bottom of the first page of results, you will start to see search results such as "Battle of Thermopylae (section In popular culture)".

If you are looking for a concise and complete list, you could try posting at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Tasks to see if anyone can scan a recent dump of the Wikipedia database for you. I could do it for you, but my downloaded copy is two months out of date. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:32, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

User IP Question For Journalist Working on Story

I am a journalist working on a story about Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes. I notice Hynes's Wikipedia page has been edited recently to remove some critical information: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_J._Hynes&diff=prev&oldid=502675980. The user who made the edits is called NYCIsAllISee. Is there any way I can track the user's IP address? I have spent almost an hour searching but have had no luck. Thank you, P Berger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdberger (talk • contribs) 19:59, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

No, a registered user's IP address is kept hidden. See the Wikimedia:Privacy policy. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:16, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

However you can find out what other edits he has done. He is shown as only having edited the one article, and as having done so competently. Infer what you can from that. Maproom (talk) 20:30, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Romney for President, inc.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Dear Wikipedia and Mr. Wales;

My name is Samantha Jones, and I am a Legal Advisor for Romney for President, Inc.

Gov. Romney is interested in controlling his Wikipedia biography as he believes that it is instrumental to his Presidential Campaign. He also believes that if the page is controlled by third-party users, it will be prone to editors posting slanderous information to the biography.

Romney for President Inc. would therefore kindly ask the Wikimedia Foundation to restrict the editing of the Wikipedia biography, and other pages whose main subject is Governor Mitt Romney, to the Romney for President campaign.

Yours Faithfully,

Samantha Jones Romney for President, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamanthaJones2 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Please see WP:OWN and WP:COI. Also this resource might help WP:WikiProject Cooperation/Paid Editor Help. Woz2 (talk) 20:08, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply;

However, the Romney for President campaign can not accept the fact that the most read biography in the world about Gov. Romney is written by volunteer amateur editors. The risk of slanderous and incorrect information being posted is far too high for Romney for President, Inc.

Yours faithfully, Samantha Jones — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamanthaJones2 (talk • contribs) 20:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I smell a troll Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 20:16, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

With all due respect, Samantha Jones, that is how Wikipedia works. Even if you are who you claim to be, we don't let the subjects of articles control the articles, be you Nelson Mandela or Arthur Bremer or Noam Chomsky or Joss Whedon. I do hope that the use of words like "slanderous" is not a covert way of hinting at legal action; we don't tolerate that here. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:17, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

To expand on this, I am sure that you and Romney for President, Inc. are aware of the disastrous media coverage that would come about if it became known that your campaign was taking control of his Wikipedia page. Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:21, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I suspect that Jauerback's assessment of "Samantha Jones"' posting is closer to the truth than Ryan Vesey's. Not that it matters - her request will be ignored. Maproom (talk) 20:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

See also User talk:Jimbo Wales#Request from Romney for President, Inc. Discussion closed with "Please WP:AGF, quick answer, move on." Woz2 (talk) 20:59, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Rather blatant troll at that. Any communications would come from a public relations representative. and be on letterhead, not a nearly anonymous posting from a "Legal Advisor" where the capitalization alone screams at us. Collect (talk) 21:08, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, we know... YHBT YHL HAND... Normal programming now resumes... Woz2 (talk) 01:04, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Help!

""It was 1 or 2 o'clock in the morning, and I remember I was so freaked out by the script that I went upstairs to our guest bedroom where my wife was sick with the flu and I got into bed with her," recalled Korman". I may need help paraprashing that. Thanks! TBrandley 20:02, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Why are you wanting to paraphrase a first-person statement? But I'll have a shot. "Korman was so upset by the script that, though it was after midnight, he went into the room where his sick wife was sleeping, and got into bed with her." Maproom (talk) 20:40, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

For FAC page on an article, Awake (TV series). Thanks, TBrandley 20:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

disambig page and citations etc, using example Coleman

Should a citatation be requested for a statement like... Coleman is a surname of both English and Gaelic origin, being found in both Great Britain and Ireland. In England, it is a trade name from Old English col (coal) and mann (man) and in Ireland it comes from the personal name Colmán.?" Also, although I'm reasonably sure the quoted statement is correct, it seems misleading, in that many families with the name Coleman probably had the name anglicized from names like Kohlmann, just as one might argue that the Irish Colman got anglicized to Coleman.--Richard L. Peterson 76.218.104.120 (talk) 20:04, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Certainly! It sounds like a mixture of ignorant speculation and bad folk etymology. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:40, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

ok thanks, I'll put citation needed on it.76.218.104.120 (talk) 05:50, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

never mind, it's already been removed76.218.104.120 (talk) 05:52, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

My "Engology" page does not to exist any more. Why?

This is my second time to query the fact that my "Engology" page does not exist any more. Why? I did not do any modifications within this past few months. I cannot make any sense of the Wikipedia instructions....just going around in circles.

Best Wishes, Fintan Lynch

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engology (talk • contribs) 20:47, 20 July 2012 (UTC) 

See [3], which links to this discussion. Dru of Id (talk) 20:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

The content at engology was removed and the page was redirected to engineering technologist some time ago. You were notified on your talk page when that redirect was then nominated for deletion. As Dru of Id pointed out, you can read the discussion at Redirects for Discussion to see the rationale for why this was done. BigNate37_(T) 21:06, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

deep web/ how to access it?

please help access the hidden web please urgent, very urgent!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.218.124 (talk) 21:43, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't think you want to be there. Arcandam (talk) 21:44, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Deep_web#Accessing--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I think xe is referring to the tornetwork. Arcandam (talk) 22:10, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

You might start with this page which purports to provide ten deep web search engines.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Should we test those engines and add them to the article? Some may have articles themselves.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

User Page

Can IP address have their Userpage just like I have ?? Kajan23 (talk) 22:17, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Certainly. But remember that many IP addresses get reassigned, so different people may use an IP at different times: in such cases, an IP user page is of rather limited value. --ColinFine (talk) 22:47, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

who is the oldest saxophone player in the world?

I try to search every where I can to find out who is the oldest baritone saxophone artist.Can`t find any where. Any help will appreciate. The reason I wanted to find out, because of my friend professional saxophone player from New Orleans, Roger Lewis, he is 71 years old, and I think he is the oldest sax.bariton performer. Why it is not in Wikipedia? Please let me know any resources how can I find out about it and clarified that he is the oldest one :-) Thank you very much. Irina — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.197.102.252 (talk) 23:36, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. RudolfRed (talk) 23:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

My guess would be Adolphe Sax Woz2 (talk) 01:14, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Censorship and Bad Attitudes

On the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_fact_and_theory Talk Section, I am continually being harassed by two folks (also check out my Talk Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snootcher to see who they are) who are adamant in their attempt to get me banned. They are editing my words so that others cannot read them, for example. They are threatening me, insulting me, and are being generally abusive. How can I prevent such things? Is there a moderator who will cool the flames in these two folks' hearts and make Wikipedia more open to discussion rather than to controlling said discussion? I believe that I am being harassed and would like that harassment to end immediately. Thanks. (P.S. Sorry for not knowing all of Wikipedia's protocol's. This was my best attempt. Thank you, and my apologies in advance if this was the wrong way to go about it.) Snootcher (talk) 23:41, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

To get help, see WP:WQA RudolfRed (talk) 23:50, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Backlog of edit requests

Hi, editors,

Apologies if this is in the wrong place, but I know lots of editors read this page. There's a good sized backlog over at Category:Wikipedia_semi-protected_edit_requests. Please consider taking a look and helping with getting it cleaned up. RudolfRed (talk) 23:59, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

For all the sports and movie fan requests, I would just close them and tell them to get @@@@ing accounts and stop bothering us with their trivial @@@@ing requests. That will clear most of your page. The Batman movie alone has four open on its talk page!--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I did over twenty. Someone else take a turn while I watch and drink beer. I told many IP that they should get accounts and stop clogging the board. Some have over 100 edits and months in.--Canoe1967 (talk) 04:18, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! RudolfRed (talk) 04:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

You are very welcome. Did you see that ugly mess on the Batman page. I was going to close all of them and leave some trite comments, but I decided to leave that for someone that wants to WP:BITE some IP editors about getting less lazy and creating accounts. Is there any valid reason why they can't?--Canoe1967 (talk) 04:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I got the list down to four and only one complaint on my talk page. I don't know if that is a good or bad thing.--Canoe1967 (talk) 07:08, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

July 21

Father Augustus Tolton

I am writing to let you know that the name of the wife of Stephan Elliott is incorrect. Someone took a picture of the wrong tombstone. It show Stephen Benedict Elliott and Susan Kendrick. It should be the tombstone of Stephen Edward Elliott and Anna Savilla (Manning) Elliott. I know from my genealogy research that what I tell you is true. Stephen E. and Anna S. Elliott were my great grandparents and she was Augustus' baptismal sponsor. Anna Savilla was the only daughter of John Manning. Thank You Jane Elliott Kidd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.145.129 (talk) 01:04, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

If the page isn't protected you could edit it yourself. If it is then you can create an account, do 10 edits, and wait four days. That will allow you to edit protected pages.--Canoe1967 (talk) 04:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

That will allow for editing semi-protected pages. Fully protected pages require an admin, if I understand correctly. RudolfRed (talk) 04:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Father Augustine Tolton has no protection at all if that is the page the OP is referring to.--Canoe1967 (talk) 04:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Area on Wikipedia For Debates

Is there any place on Wikipedia where users can have civilized debates about various political issues? Futurist110 (talk) 01:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Per WP:Forum should not be any. History2007 (talk) 02:10, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Is there a forum where we can debate the politics of removing this policy?--Canoe1967 (talk) 04:45, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

You can make a proposal and have it discussed at the village pump RudolfRed (talk) 05:06, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

. I was just joking.--Canoe1967 (talk) 05:12, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

But there may be truth hidden in that joke... There is a new travel-guide proposal which will open the door to a social network type feature in time... History2007 (talk) 05:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Please post a link. Arcandam (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

meta:Requests for comment/Travel Guide. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:06, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

That is for Wikimedia though. Not Wikipedia which is what was in the original question. Dismas|^(talk) 14:46, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Avoiding archiving for a talk page footer template

Resolved

Is there a way that a template placed at the bottom of a talk page that says: "Please read the FAQ" can be exempted from archiving by the MiszaBot ? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 02:10, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, of course! User:MiszaBot/Archive_HowTo says: Archiving can be delayed for a particular thread by substituting the template {{DNAU}} into the thread. Use {{subst:DNAU}} to retain a thread indefinitely, or {{subst:DNAU|<integer>}} to retain a thread for <integer> days. See the template documentation for details about its use and function. Arcandam (talk) 02:15, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

The result of substituting the template looks something like this: <!-- [[User:DoNotArchiveUntil]] 02:16, 19 July 2022 (UTC) --> Arcandam (talk) 02:17, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. But is there also a way to do that without having a thread for the footer? The point is that the FAQ is at the top and most people miss it, and the idea would be to just make them aware of it with the footer that always stays on the talk page. The footer would look better without a section and having a section would just look confusing. Any idea? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 02:23, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Anyway, based on your link, I also asked here, so we will see. History2007 (talk) 02:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Stuff without a section title won't be archived anyways. And it is possible to have the code in the beginning of the talkpage while the "Please read the FAQ"-thingy is at the bottom. Arcandam (talk) 03:45, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

You can also add the following code to the top of your talkpage:

<!--Please don't edit this part of my talkpage-->

{{User:History2007/talkpageheader}}

<!--Thanks, you can leave your edit below -->

Then create a new page called User:History2007/talkpageheader and put the code for the "Please read the FAQ"-thingy there. Arcandam (talk) 03:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean something like this: <div style="position: fixed; right:5px; bottom:5px; display:block;">Please read the [[FAQ]]</div> ? Arcandam (talk) 03:51, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

That may be a very good idea, but it did not work on my talk page. I put it at the top. Please feel free to fix it there if you can (at the top of my talk page), so I can see what you mean when it shows on my talk page as a footer. Thank you. History2007 (talk) 04:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I saw that you modified it on my talk page, but I do not see the footer there. I assume you are working on that. Right? History2007 (talk) 04:27, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Can you see it now? Arcandam (talk) 04:30, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

PS: Where is the documentation for the div marker, so I can look at that and read it? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 04:23, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

The nowiki tag I used in the code was a trick to display the code to use without actually using it myself, that is why it didn't work. The div tag is an HTML tag. Arcandam (talk) 04:26, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Here's one page that describes the div tag: [4]. Google (or whatever) for HTML tutorials, and you'll get more. RudolfRed (talk) 04:28, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I guess I need to learn HTML anew. Arcandam fixed it now, but how does one say bottom with no pixels? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 04:34, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

You should probably ask that at the reference desk, since it's not directly related to Wikipedia. WP:RD/C RudolfRed (talk) 04:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I will just play with it and get it that way. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 04:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Is it possible to MFD WP:(VfD)^11 WP WfD?

The page's full name is Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/WikiProject Wikipedians for Decency. (It's too long that I can't fill it into section title) I want to MFD it but it will create [[Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/Votes for deletion/WikiProject Wikipedians for Decency]] --will it crash? 221.203.139.100 (talk) 03:31, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

"This page contains material that is kept because it is considered humorous. Please do not take it seriously." RudolfRed (talk) 03:34, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

How does one make a request to delete a particular article?

Thank you. Futurist110 (talk) 07:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Start at Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Processes. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:34, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Afc Gérard Desbois

Hi. Please, may I request help for this article : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Gérard_Desbois. I don't understand why it is not accepted : youngest flight test engineer graduate, chief test on the Airbus A380, writters... Maybe I am somewhere wrong? Regards. 90.84.144.65 (talk) 08:14, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I think you are misunderstanding Wikipedia's policy on notability. The rejections are not saying that the subject is insignificant: they are saying that the article does not cite multiple reliable sources that have talked about the subject. There are two points here: first, have multiple sources (newspapers, books etc) talked about Desbois, and secondly, does the article cite those sources. If in fact he has not been written about by several reliable sources, then he is not notable (in Wikipedia's special meaning of the word) and may not have an article. If these sources do in fact exist, but the draft article does not say so, you can fix it by adding citations to those sources.

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

A quick google suggests to me that while several news reports quote Desbois, nobody has written about him; but I have only looked very quickly, so I may be wrong. (I haven't watched the Airbus video, so I don't know if it says anything substantial about him, but even if it does it is not independent of him, and so cannot be used to establish his notability.) --ColinFine (talk) 09:15, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Creating a map

G'day there, How do those maps with the pin get created? I would like to get one of those and also a satellite image of the area I am writing about. Thanks in advance, Ben Benwebboz (talk) 10:28, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

It can be made with {{Location map}}. It's often used via infoboxes like {{Infobox settlement}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

composer/song writer

i've been searching the net for the the composer of the song "i don't wanna lose you" but there isn't any please help, thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.204.134.243 (talk) 11:10, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried the Entertainment section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 PrimeHunter (talk) 11:17, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Anyone know of a way to show UTC times in page histories?

Right now page revisions are being shown in my local time. I would like to have them shown in UTC so I can see how long ago it happened when I check the UTC clock at the top-right corner of my screen. Right now I can't think of a good way to do this without changing my local time in preferences. Floating Boat (the editor formerly known as AndieM) 14:20, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I have been searching for the same feature for three years to no avail :). I don't think you can specify which timezone your watchlist or page histories run on without changing the local time in your preferences. Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 14:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Why not ignore the UTC clock top left, and compare the history time with the clock on your computer? For example, on Windows you can put a clock readout in the system tray. YMMV. Cheers! Woz2 (talk) 14:38, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

This is suitable in many cases, but there are many times that are displayed in UTC, the most obvious being time-stamps in user signatures. If a person has no problem using two time systems, then there is no problem. I would just rather, as a preference, to have the option of all the times on Wikipedia being displayed according to the same local time (UTC). Happy editing, hajatvrc with WikiLove @ 14:48, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd also appreciate having everything in UTC. I'm not a fan of having to remember which WP feature is in my local time and which is in UTC. Dismas|^(talk) 14:56, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Never mind; I'll just change the local time in preferences. Thank you for trying to help! Floating Boat (the editor formerly known as AndieM) 15:00, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Wait, wait , wait. What about asking at the WP:Village pump? Floating Boat (the editor formerly known as AndieM) 15:02, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Dismas, you can set "Use wiki default" in your My Preferences/Date and time tab, then everything will be in UTC. hth Woz2 (talk) 15:06, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Doesn't that answer the original question as well then? Dismas|^(talk) 15:09, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I had asked if there was a way to do it without having to change the settings, but I'm fine now. Thank you again! Floating Boat (the editor formerly known as AndieM) 15:22, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Template assistance

I'm looking for assistance with modifying an existing template. Is this the right place? The template in question is {{Infobox Tennis Grand Slam events}} and I'm trying to add links to the previous and next year's event identical to what the {{TennisEventInfo}} template shows at the bottom (see e.g. 1993 Australian Open with links to the 1992 and 1994 edition). I printed out the code for both templates and while I can understand parts of it I just don't have the level of template knowledge to make this adjustment. The creators of both templates appear to be no longer active. Obviously the modification will be proposed to the WikiProject Tennis before implementation but I don't foresee any issues. --Wolbo (talk) 18:55, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Production information

How can you find "Production" for an episode of a television show. The "production" is really needed expanding in "The Little Guy". I've search everywhere, and that is all I can find. Thanks for the help, TBrandley 20:45, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

miserable CAPTCHA

What is the company responsible for this miserably USER UNFRIENDLY handicap to business operations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.65.89.77 (talk) 21:08, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

A good starting point might be Luis von Ahn and Manuel Blum. - Karenjc 22:12, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

More intense version of Template:Plot?

Looking at the plot summary section of Dil Se Di Dua... Saubhagyavati Bhava?, which already has a Template:Plot tag, is there a more intense version? Something like, "Really, guys, there's no reason to write every single detail of what happens in the show in the article. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, for crying out loud, not a personal fan site or blog of the series"? The more I look at the plot summary section, the less salvageable it seems. I'd get rid of it and write a new plot summary myself, but the problem is, I have never even seen the show. JIP | Talk 21:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

There's Template:Overly_detailed or Template:All_plot, but I don't think either of those is better than the existing tag. I see you've already left a note on the talk page. If you're not going to tackle the fix yourself, then that's probably all you can do. RudolfRed (talk) 21:31, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Navbox looking weird in one article. The template is OK, but in article it is different.

In the article Polymer physics, the footer navbox looks very expanded. But in its own template it looks normal. Is this only to me? What must be the problem? Only on this article, not in any other one! Vanischenum^Talk 21:35, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I've fixed it with a null edit though I'm not sure what was broken. Dismas|^(talk) 22:22, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

/* Edit request */ Hello - Guns controversy and other incidents- added correctly or not please? Nick D'Arcy

Hello Wikipedians, I've added (?) some news references in article "Nick D'Arcy" bio - Australian swimmer. I've tried to be objective, neutral etc, but article is "semi-protected" . Have I broken wikipedia rules again? Sorry if so. Who do I ask for permission? What should I do? My editing widgits / symbols and <ref> grammar is below standards, SORRY for this also. Purple colour in reference section means I've done something wrong? ~~~~