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Please help with page nominated for deletion "Auad Raphael"

Hey there. I saw you made an edit on this page and it's now nominated for deletion. I've tried to change it but whoever nominated is on a mission. Please help if you can. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.70.40 (talk) 15:56, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for all the reviews!

Just dropped by to say I noticed you reviewed seven pages I've been working on...so I wanted to say thanks! Seahawk01 (talk) 01:38, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, Seahawk01 - keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 11:07, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why you all way protect the article Cambodian New Year ?

Because your a sock, and you have continued to vandalize the page for quite a few months. Don't ever write on my talk page again. Onel5969 TT me 14:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

Please see Talk:Mirwais Azizi. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:26, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
Many thanks for your service. Serenesage (talk) 07:06, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Aw shucks... Serenesage - Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 13:11, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion declined: Ram Prasad Neupane

Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ram Prasad Neupane, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Jayatu Sanskritam movement appears notable, so leading it is a claim of significance. Thank you. SoWhy 13:05, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know the reason, SoWhy. Onel5969 TT me 13:10, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. If the article survives AFD (which looks likely), you can consider redirecting there per WP:ATD as well. Regards SoWhy 13:12, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again, SoWhy. Will check back on the AfD. To be honest, I missed the link to the actual movement in the body of the article. I was so confused as to how an individual can have "members" (see infobox)… guess I took my eye off the ball. Onel5969 TT me 13:17, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony Padilla

Hey there. There’s an AfD on Anthony Padilla that could use your participation, as you were involved in the article's redirect. Thanks. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Padilla Sekyaw (talk) 13:00, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Bone Sweet Bone

The blog is also used as source List of Warner Bros. cartoons with Blue Ribbon reissues page confirming dates of re-release. Best :) Yay Dad (talk) 01:58, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Blogs are not reliable sources. Sorry. Please read WP:RS. Onel5969 TT me 01:59, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Christine Mitchell

Would you be willing to look at, advise, even review Draft:Christine Mitchell? MaynardClark (talk) 21:31, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Seymour Mamedov, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Arthistorian1977 (talk) 13:34, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Atari 2600 Golf

There's a loose standard that 2600 games with name conflicts use the "(Atari 2600)" suffix: Pac-Man (Atari 2600), Adventure (Atari 2600), Midnight Magic (Atari 2600), Miniature Golf (Atari 2600). I moved "Golf (Atari 2600 game)" to "Golf (Atari 2600)" which was an existing redirect page. If this caused a problem, my apologies. Dgpop (talk) 14:31, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dgpop - What you did is called a cut and paste move, which isn't allowed on WP, since it loses the history of the pages. What you need to do is ask for the redirect to be deleted using H7 speedy deletion. In the reason, simply state for a page move to follow naming conventions. Once the redirect is deleted, then "move" the page.Onel5969 TT me 15:10, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I learned something new today--thank you! Dgpop (talk) 15:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing Novosibirsk Capacitor Plant, Onel5969.

Unfortunately Insertcleverphrasehere has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

If you were not aware, PRODed and CSD tagged articles should not be marked as reviewed, per recent consensus here. Cheers,

To reply, leave a comment on Insertcleverphrasehere's talk page.

— Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 00:42, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Insertcleverphrasehere - I did not mark it reviewed, simply tagged it for deletion. If you look at the edit summary as well as the logs, you'll notice that the prod was done simultaneously with the "reviewed". I think I was one of the first editors to agree with the proposal to only mark AfD's. We need to change the curation script. It apparently still automatically marks those pages reviewed if a page reviewer tags them for deletion. I haven't really paid attention to articles I prod (or CSD for that matter) to see if they are marked for review. In the future, I'll check to make sure I unmark them. However, another auto thing with the curation tool, is that it marks those articles to be put on my watchlist. Onel5969 TT me 01:23, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969, Yeah, there is a bug with the curation script. The bug has already been reported. If CSDing or PRODing with page curation, you have to unreview it afterwards. I got Twinkle fixed though, so at least CSDs and PRODS done through twinkle don't get auto-reviewed. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)(click me!) 01:27, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Insertcleverphrasehere - Just had the first Speedy in a while Joseph Carrillo, and yup, it automatically marked it as reviewed. Would never have looked if you hadn't pointed it out. Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 10:31, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Palaichori Oreinis

Hello. Palaichori Oreinis, which I tried to deal with in September, has reappeared as a content fork copied and pasted from Palaichori. I notice that you're currently in discussion with the same editor on another matter. Any suggestions please? Certes (talk) 00:52, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's a sticky one, Certes - That editor seems to not want to engage in discussions. I'm going to restore the redirect, with a note regarding BRD and disruptive editing. I know there's a policy regarding dupe articles, but I don't have a link for it... any ideas where it is? (by the way, very nice work you do here on WP... can't think of an interaction where I've disagreed with you). Onel5969 TT me 01:27, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This editor's been around for almost 10 years. They should know better. Onel5969 TT me 01:31, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for stepping in. My instinct was to do something similar but, as I'd done that before and effectively been reverted, I wanted a second opinion. WP:REDUNDANTFORK may be the nearest we have to a relevant policy.
I've also admired your quietly competent editing and had to hold myself back from shouting at the admins when you were being unjustly roasted for a few minor disambiguation errors a few months ago. Certes (talk) 11:36, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, Certes, and thanks for your kind words. I agree regarding policy with WP:REDUNDANTFORK, but I really think from a process standpoint, we might simply quote WP:A10, which is the speedy deletion criteria dealing with duplicate articles.Onel5969 TT me 12:08, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There's a case for A10. (It is technically a "recently created article", although the page has been around for a while.) On the other hand, CSD are about getting rid of a page altogether, but I think we want to speedily replace this article by a redirect, which we can do without needing the admin's mop. Certes (talk) 12:13, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Zara Holland

(talk page stalker) Well I have realised myself that nominating the former Miss Great Britain winner and Love Island contestant for deletion was a poor decision making due to my mind being stubborn, since it actually passes WP:BLP and WP:GNG for her Miss Great Britain winner in 2015 only to be stripped the next year, but only thing missing is her birth year despite some well reliable websites stated she was born on 24 August 1995 which is needed to add into her infobox which is needs to be doing. Sheldybett (talk) 00:56, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No worries Sheldybett I've made many good faith nominations at AfD which the end result was "keep". But you're a relatively new editor. Don't be afraid to ask other editors for advice. I began editing in earnest in late 2013 (even though I opened the account in 2009), don't know when I nominated my first AfD. You might want to wait a bit. Participate in other AfD's, and watch how other editors make their arguments.Onel5969 TT me 01:52, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism on Wikipedia:Short description

Why on earth are you repeatedly vandalising Wikipedia:Short description? You're an established editor and you know very well that it's not a "1980s English post-punk ensemble". One more and I'll take it to ANI. --RexxS (talk) 02:28, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RexxS - And thanks for your wonderful example of AGF. Not sure what happened there, was adding a short description to The Folk Devils. Must have accidently clicked on the line above the "Missing article description (Add)", and then added it. But in checking that option out, it leads you to the template, which I made no changes to. So I must have clicked on the "article description", and added it there. Didn't realize the error until your very civil reply and use of the term "vandalism". My apologies and thanks for your civility. Onel5969 TT me 02:39, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, but it wouldn't have turned out that way if you hadn't edit-warred your mistake back in again as soon as I fixed it. [1], [2]. Do you normally just re-revert any reversion without bothering to check, or did you accidentally click on the line above for a second time? Put yourself in my place and see how much AGF that generates. --RexxS (talk) 13:59, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, I still had the original article page up and couldn't understand why you would revert a short description. But your use of terms like vandalism, and "edit warring" for a single revert, show your lack of AGF. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 14:02, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Scope creep. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Alan H. Goldman, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

scope_creepTalk 14:59, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ronald R. Schoenberg

Did you delete the page I made for my father Ronald R. Schoenberg? Why? Can you restore it so I can work on it some more?

Randols (talk) 22:15, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination for History of Venkateswara Temple

Hi, I had created this page out of Venkateswara Temple, Tirumala because this temple had huge important events in the history and expanding the main article with all this century wise will make main article unreadable. I need time to add more content with citations. At the same time the history section of main article also needs to be made more precise. I opened a discussion on this on article's talk page. You can share your comments aggi007(talk) 13:03, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Onel5969,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.


Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.


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A cup of coffee for you!

To increase the adrenaline shot coming from this deserved reviewer big cup that your wikiskills have prompted. Thanks for reviewing so many articles! 1l2l3k (talk) 12:01, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks 1l2l3k - just trying to help out where I can. Onel5969 TT me 13:28, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Niranam Thrikkapaleeswaram Dakshinamurthy Temple

How to improve. Pl advise.--RajeshUnuppally 12:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RajeshUnuppally - Well right away, you need a source for the history section. Other than that, just look for more sources and more in-depth information from reliable, independent sources. Other than that, it's nicely structured, pertinent photos. Nice job.Onel5969 TT me 13:28, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and noted.--RajeshUnuppally 09:10, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Saheefa Jabbar Khattak

Hello senior user, Sorry to distrub you, This actress has appeared in leading role in two projects i.e Teri Meri Kahani (TV series) and Beti (TV series) which is currently airing. Passes actor notability thats why i revert article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.8.237.3 (talk) 13:17, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, my bad. Missed the earlier series.Onel5969 TT me 13:21, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Yamunamai, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:25, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Onel5969, I just recived notifications about copyright violatations. Is there any way to solve the problem without deleting articles? I am asking it since my last attempt to remove "important information" from flagged article was reverted. Thanks in advance. Georgiano (talk) 16:32, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Georgiano - absolutely. Re-word the article in your own words, then leave a message on the talk page letting an admin know that the copyvio problem has been addressed, and only a RevDel is needed. Onel5969 TT me 17:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I just removed copyvio content. Could you review it again? Georgiano (talk) 17:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Merry

Happy Christmas!
Hello Onel5969,
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that

Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"

My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 07:55, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
So MarnetteD - Thank you so much for your kind words, your page stalking, your support, and all your contributions. Onel5969 TT me 21:57, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer of the Year

Wow! Well done!
This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past 12 months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
Thoroughly deserve it, good friend. I feel proud to know you. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 17:50, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And I am just of proud of you Gareth Griffith-Jones-after all, you were my mentor here back in 2013-2014.Onel5969 TT me 18:06, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You are my most successful protégé by a long mile [3]. Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard 11:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations you deserve this and also an opportunity for me to say thanks for going the extra mile with me when I was new here. CV9933 (talk) 13:54, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...

I realise I am only one out of many indebted to you for reviews, but I would like to say thanks for your speedy review of my page Gibson Country Western (guitar model). It is appreciated! Cheers - Tony Rees in Australia Tony 1212 (talk) 23:02, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No worries Tony 1212, keep up the good work.Onel5969 TT me 11:11, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edit history

Shouldn't the history of Jim Ward (quarterback) prior to the un-redirecting on November 11 be at Jim Ward? I've noticed this IP doing this with many other old re-directs. This person for whatever reason instead of making an account and creating the article has decided to just create over a bunch of old re-directs. Should these histories be fixed?-- Yankees10 19:38, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another example being Dave Martin (linebacker).-- Yankees10 19:40, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it looks like you've been also fixing these [4]-- Yankees10 20:12, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Yankees10 - The history should follow the article, not the dab page. So when a dab page (or redirect) is created to the actual article, the history should be on the article. All of these seem to be okay. Hope that makes sense.Onel5969 TT me 21:03, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Just seems kind of odd to have some of these histories in there.-- Yankees10 21:13, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Seasonal Greetings!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!

Hello Onel5969, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019.
Happy editing,
★Trekker (talk) 09:44, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Thank you so much Treker - Always a pleasure interacting with you. Onel5969 TT me 21:58, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Termokiss

The PROD for Termokiss which you endorsed was declined, please feel free to comment at the AfD. Polyamorph (talk) 10:58, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft

Can you please move Draft:... I Lose Myself back into the main space? I was actively working on the article when you moved the page. I understand moving pages into the draft space, but not when someone has asked for reinstatement and is actively working to improve the entry. Thanks, ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:27, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I acknowledge I've not given you much time to respond, but I've submitted a technical request to have the page moved over my accidentally created stub. I've added some additional sources to the page and talk page. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:46, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Hi Onel5969, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas
and a very Happy and Prosperous New Year,
Thanks for all your help and thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia,

   –Davey2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 14:50, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much Davey2010 - Always been an admirer of your work. Thanks for all you do.Onel5969 TT me 21:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, Haha thanks but I don't really do much , Thanks anyway, –Davey2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 14:45, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas !!!

Hello Onel5969: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 18:31, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message
Thank you so much CAPTAIN RAJU! Right back at you. Always a pleasure. Onel5969 TT me 22:03, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!!

Thank you for your great contributions Onel. My very best wishes for this holiday season. May your heart and the heart of those around you be filled with happiness during this special time. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 09:45, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!
⛄ 🎅 🎄

Hope you enjoy the Christmas eve with the ones you love and step into the new year with lots of happiness and good health. Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year! GSS (talk

Happy Christmas!

Hello Onel5969: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Polyamorph (talk) 22:30, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Merry Christmas!

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm PRehse. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, SuperClash IV, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

PRehse (talk) 20:16, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
This is Ronald J. Allen. You sent me the following message. "OK, it's now in your Sandbox User:Ronald J. Allen/sandbox. What you have written is completely unsuitable for Wikipedia. For an article about a person, what is needed is content based on citations written about that person, by other people. A selected bibliography of work published by the person can be listed as part of the article, but none of that is usable to reference what the person thinks or says or does. Right now, everything following "A church theology" rests on what Williamson himself has written. David notMD (talk) 12:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)." I appreciate the attention you gave to this project, and especially its timeliness. While your message is highly disappointing, it does let me know where I stand with respect to this article. Unfortunately, I am not currently in a position to restart the research for this article using only secondary sources. Please know I appreciate the time you have given. I do have a general suggestion for Wikipedia. I cannot find a SIMPLE guide to how to develop an article, steps 1 . . . 2 . . . . 3 . . . . spelled out in straightforward, accessible, non-technical English. I think that would be very helpful. Best wishes in the new year. Ronald J. Allen (talk) 13:36, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry you got discouraged, Ronald J. Allen. Will pass along your suggestion to the ptb's. Onel5969 TT me 17:34, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Showa Era Riders

I didn't mean anything copyright infringement. The Template just leads to the respective Riders' shows and specials, not to the Characters themselves. If it'll be easier why not just delete the showa riders template? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.140.2 (talk) 15:29, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No clue what you're talkin about.Onel5969 TT me 17:33, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I meant that the 11 Riders are notable and they had their own pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.140.2 (talk) 15:29, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Amateur teams articles

Amateur teams of Amateur league, which there is team history, have team wiki articles. Amateur teams of Amateur league don't team history in public news. they haven't wiki articles. You may not all teams in Amateur league haven't any articles Aquaelfin (talk) 17:11, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Have no clue what you're talking about, your post doesn't make sense.Onel5969 TT me 17:33, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Why Pualand F.C. articles pass ? This teams don't appeared in national public news but join in 2018 Thai FA Cup. This teams has wiki articles !!!!!!! It doesn't make sent and fail Ameteur club standard which can or cannot wiki articles. Thailand Amateur League started after Thai FA Cup. I don't know each team which join or don't join Thailand Amateur League. I think to changes WP:FOOTYN defination teams which has wiki articles to must play in national level of the league structure. It prevents to create teams don't join Thailand Amateur League and more. Teams in Thailand Amateur League which have wiki articles must appeared team history in National public news. Aquaelfin (talk) 18:36, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Then make a proposal at the footy project page to change their already incredible lax notability standards. I'm guessing English is not your first language, but it is very difficult to understand what you are attempting to say.Onel5969 TT me 16:14, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

YGM

Hello, Onel5969. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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JC7V (talk) 17:44, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi JC7V7DC5768 - I don't really respond on email, unless I have established a long WP relationship with another editor. My advice to you is to do your WP:BEFORE on the article, and if in your opinion it doesn't pass WP:GNG, then I'd nominate it. If you've done you're before properly, then you shouldn't worry. Although even with that, sometimes articles do get kept. Onel5969 TT me 19:06, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Barrios of ____ Puerto Rico

Hiiiii, how are you? So I was wondering why the categories are being removed from these barrio articles.

  • 10:58, 28 December 2018 diff hist -45‎ Calabazas (Yabucoa) ‎ removed Category:Barrios of Yabucoa, Puerto Rico using HotCatrem redcat current [rollback] [vandalism]
  • 10:58, 28 December 2018 diff hist -46‎ Candelaria (Toa Baja) ‎ removed Category:Barrios of Toa Baja, Puerto Rico using HotCatrem redcat current [rollback] [vandalism]
  • 10:58, 28 December 2018 diff hist -46‎ Caonillas Abajo (Villalba) ‎ removed Category:Barrios of Villalba, Puerto Rico using HotCatrem redcat current [rollback] [vandalism]
  • 10:57, 28 December 2018 diff hist -46‎ Sabana (Luquillo) ‎ removed Category:Barrios of Luquillo, Puerto Rico using HotCatrem redcat

Thanks! --the eloquent peasant (talk) 02:16, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Level C - because they don't exist.Onel5969 TT me 03:18, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi Onel5969 - thanks for reviewing all my recent stuff. Perhaps you might consider nominating me at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled? I did recently put myself forward but was unfortunate to happen upon a jobsworth. I don't suppose it makes too much difference, but as you can see I have created loads more than 25 articles and am familiar with all the policies. It might save the likes of your good self some time going forward. Kind regards, Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 19:11, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bring back Daz Sampson - while I haven't had an issue with the articles you've created, the same issue which that admin brought up still exists. I don't necessarily agree with your assessment of their request of you. The issue they expressed still exists. Now, I don't necessarily agree with them asking the question and then only giving you slightly over 2 days to respond, especially since you only had 2 edits during that timeframe, so you weren't very active. But they declined your request due to your lack of response, which I can definitely see. Over at NPP, we've just had an editor of long-standing stripped of their autoconfirmed rights due to a seeming lack of understanding of some basic concepts regarding the importance of footnotes. You still have less than 80 page creations, and they are still all involving soccer players/soccer stuff. Bottom line is that I've nominated anyone for autopatroller status. While you specialize in soccer stuff, it might do you well to do a few articles in other areas, just to show you have a broader depth of knowledge regarding WP rules.Onel5969 TT me 21:26, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Adonis

Hello, Onel5969, I now see that the article for one Frank Adonis has previously been deleted. I apologize for undoing your edit in my ignorance. However, I was wondering if there was the possibility of reopening the discussion for keep vs. delete, if I can find additional information to meet Wikipedia's expectations. Thanks! -Jmanlucas —Preceding undated comment added 06:50, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jmanlucas - and no worries. We all miss things at times. The actor clearly doesn't meet WP:NACTOR, so you'd have to find enough to have him pass WP:GNG. This means finding at least 3 in-depth references to him in independent, reliable sources. I have a pretty broad acceptance of film-related articles, and when I did my search back during the AfD, I simply couldn't find enough to warrant a keep !vote. If you can find that type of sourcing, that would be the way to go. If you do, recreate the article, and leave a message on the talk page, detailing the new, in-depth sourcing. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 21:32, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm AmericanAir88. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Tyrone Anthony, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

AmericanAir88(talk) 19:51, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oren Cass

Why the reversion on Oren Cass? Any author of a book discussed in the NYT seems notable enough (to me). Yfever (talk) 20:32, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Then I might suggest you take a look at WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR.Onel5969 TT me 21:40, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Yfever (talk) 00:47, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arizona

FWIW, there's a 1RR ruling for post-1932 US political articles. GoodDay (talk) 21:51, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And if this were a political article, that would have some meaning. And if it had meaning, your revert of my revert would be in violation of it. Do you have a source for that or not?Onel5969 TT me 21:53, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Source for what? Check over at Jon Kyl & related articles. GoodDay (talk) 21:54, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Source for your assertion. Nothing at Kyl's article suggests that his resignation is effective before the end of day. All news reports have it at end of day, not at some arbitrary hour during the day. Onel5969 TT me 21:59, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Other articles have him as no longer being a US senator. Doesn't matter, as it's only a matter of hours. By tomorrow, he'll be deleted from the Arizona article, anyways. GoodDay (talk) 22:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gwin poeth sbeislyd i chi ...

 ... gan yr hen Gymro; rwy'n gobeithio eich bod wedi cael gwyliau Nadolig gwych ac rwy'n dymuno 2019 heddychlon i chi!
That is Welsh and translates to:
Spicy hot wine for you from the old Welshman; I hope you have had a great Christmas holiday and I wish you a peaceful 2019!
Thank you for your excellent work on the 'pedia.

Sincerely, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Gareth Griffith-Jones for your kind words, as always. All the best to you in the coming year.Onel5969 TT me 18:36, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

Thank you for your help last year, and your good wishes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:42, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gerda Arendt - may you have a happy and healthy 2019!Onel5969 TT me 18:37, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the smile Gerda Arendt!

FYI

Hi O. I know the article is on your watchlist but I did want to direct you to this Talk:It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World#Plot Point new thread. Your input would be useful. I also note that the page could use automatic archiving but I always mess that up so if you know what to do that would be helpful as well. No worries if that isn't something you want to do. Happy 2019!! MarnetteD|Talk 22:53, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks MarnetteD - Actually, somehow IAMMMMW had fallen off my watchlist. It is now back on. I've left my .02 on the talkpage. Onel5969 TT me 00:37, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your post and I'm glad this spurred you to add the article back to your watchlist :-) MarnetteD|Talk 00:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bill of Rights (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Bill of Rights (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the Bill of Rights (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 03:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sibi bhagnari

Thanks for curating the page and making the necessary changes. I've left a note on the article creators page and if you are finished will make a few more improvements. Cheers and keep up the good work! Hughesdarren (talk) 13:27, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New content for Microland Wikipedia page

Hi, I want to make some updates to the Microland page on wiki. How do I go about this? I have the new content ready. Can I send it to you for review? And if yes, how? Regards UshaMicroland (talk) 05:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi UshaMicroland - The best way is to put your requested changes on the talk page of the article. Onel5969 TT me 12:07, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edapt page

Hello Onel5969,

You have marked the Edapt page for speedy deletion. You have said, "it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article"

I have made a few edits so hopefully you don't feel this way anymore.

It is an alternative organisation to teaching unions in England and Wales. I don't have a vested interest in the organisation and I'm not promoting, simply creating it as it doesn't exist on Wikipedia at the moment.

Thanks, Andrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liff182 (talk • contribs) 09:57, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Short Series

Firstly, your accomplishments are impressive! You are doing for your chosen areas what I'd like to do for spaceflight. Thank you for being an inspiration.

Secondly, you added "short description|Series of American satellites" to my Solrad article. Can you explain what that does? I can't see any difference on the page.

Thank you! --Neopeius (talk) 21:53, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Neopeius. First, thanks for your kind words. Second, short descriptions (SDs) were introduced mainly for the benefit of readers searching for articles in mobile view, where an SD appears beneath each title listed in search results. Originally they were all drawn from the Wikidata "description" field. But many of those are unsuitable in various ways, and all are potentially subject to damaging edits which we might not quickly spot. So the SD script was developed, and we're slowly chugging away at getting them filled. You can find out more at Wikipedia:Short description, and its accompanying talk page. Onel5969 TT me 22:03, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Review

Today i created few new pages all are notable and meets wp:politician and wp:bio. Could you review them. Regards, AD Talk 18:55, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou ♥️ AD Talk 19:00, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: IS-3 (tank)

Hello Onel5969. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of IS-3 (tank), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The material that is on Reddit was copied from IS tank family#IS-3. Thank you. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:57, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

Can you see my reponse on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Woodhall Spa Cottage Museum, please? In case you did not get the ping. Regards, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 12:05, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Jovanmilic97 - Just responded there. AfD's are not supposed to be votes, which is one reason while comments there are called !votes. Clearly in my mind, the coverage did not rise to meet WP:SIGCOV or WP:GNG, and the keep !votes, imho, failed to make a coherent argument. But I agree with you, it most likely will be closed as keep, as is all too often the case of WP:ILIKEIT arguments. Onel5969 TT me 12:09, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for kind response! "AfD's are not supposed to be votes", exactly this (though an admin could argue that majority rules and there was no opposition depite a relist for which a stepped in). The only reason why I did not put delete as a vote is like you said, can be closed as keep and would be an unneccesary Red "mistake" on my AfD Stats on https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/afdstats.py?name=Jovanmilic97&max=&startdate=&altname= I too hope an admin will at least give a final relist if anything. The discussion so far in my opinion was not indepth or based in guidelines nor policy (except for E.M Gregory with WP:HEY help as always from him). Jovanmilic97 (talk) 12:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I stopped caring about my AfD stats a long time ago. Despite that, they're still pretty good. The good admins do adhere to the actual AfD policy. The unfortunate thing is that NAC's often do not, and merely count votes. Regardless, thanks for your efforts on the project.Onel5969 TT me 12:20, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"The good admins do adhere to the actual AfD policy" Good example just 5 days ago is this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gleeful: The Real Show Choirs of America where I managed to overturn the current consensus of Delete and Weak Keep resulting in likely no consensus (I did not think it would close as a delete but gave it a shot). Thank you too for contributing to Wikipedia as always! Jovanmilic97 (talk) 12:23, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Greninja listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Greninja. Since you had some involvement with the Greninja redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Paintspot Infez (talk) 16:00, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent revert to 2016 Summer Paralympics torch relay

Hello. Might I ask why you've reverted my last edit to 2016 Summer Paralympics torch relay? The article had been significantly expanded, and the information there is not in the main article. Thanks! Pbroks13 (talk) 03:40, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Diannaa has unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Diannaa. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Human interaction proof, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:29, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Diannaa - Any clue as to why when I ran my copyvio tool, it didn't pick up the copyvio which you have now removed? I used the new option on the page curation tool. Onel5969 TT me 11:32, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes when people copy from journal articles the copyvio detector does not find them. After receiving a query on my talk page about a possible issue, I located the source webpages and books was by going through the article sentence by sentence and Googling each sentence. The remaining content is likely clear of copyvio but I wonder if there's enough here for a separate article, as the topic is already covered at CAPTCHA — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:37, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. If I had to do that with each article I reviewed, wow. Any suggestions on a course of action so I don't miss these in the future? Onel5969 TT me 11:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just watch out for prose that seems a little disproportionally professional or polished compared to other parts of the article; or phrases such as "we discovered", which sometimes slip in when copying others' research. I think that's how this one was spotted. You don't have to clean complex cases like this one, but do report them at WP:CP for investigation. If you need help doing this just let me know. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hello Please Add Belly Up! By Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show. I Work Really Hard At It. I Don't Remove Your Work If You Add Stuff On Wikipedia. Thanks Ben Ben2719941 (talk) 04:42, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to create an article regarding a song, please read the appropriate notability guidelines. While it meets a single requirement of WP:NSONGS, it's a very weak case, #141 on the top 200 on a secondary chart (the main chart is the Billboard 100, which this song did not make), and the other chart is irrelevant.Onel5969 TT me 12:13, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Add Album Please

Can You Please Add The Album Belly Up! by Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show For Me So You Can Show Me How To Do It Property. Thanks Ben Ben2719941 (talk) 11:46, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio should be unambiguous for speedy deletion

Re List of World Heritage Sites in Southeast Asia and List of World Heritage sites in Cambodia. The edit summary "Separate World Heritage sites in Cambodia from Southeast Asia" should have been a good clue that the material was copied from within Wikipedia. Just because an outside wiki also had similar content is not a reason to assume it came from there. And you didn't notice the correct creator. So, while there may be a problem of attribution, speedy deletion is not an appropriate response. Please be more circumspect in what you call unambiguous copyvio. Dicklyon (talk) 17:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dicklyon - Didn't really care about the edit summary. While there are times I miss a copyvio tag which is due to a mirror site, this is not one of those times. Sometimes I will delete the offending copyvio, and request a revdel, but in this case, the copyvio was so extensive, I felt deleting the entire article was warranted. Please be more circumspect in leaving accusatory messages. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 18:27, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

About Mangang !

Why you cut several yumnaks (surnames) of this Clan. How to add it.Is it adding these yumnaks are not applicable in Wikipedia, Afingba Mangang (talk) 18:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Afingba Mangang - Because it was wholly uncited. You need to have a reliable source to show that they are truly yumnaks of those particular clans. Onel5969 TT me 18:16, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding JKT48

I honestly do NOT LIKE the way you do not consult me first before redirecting. It is disrespectful. However, I would like to see if the content you erased in the name of redirect may be included in one page named "JKT48 Member Elections". Please reply ASAP. Thanks. – Flix11 (talk) 17:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Do NOT "ping" the User on his/her Talk. Stop shouting! Calm down! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Don't really care what you like. If you're going to be uncivil, don't write on my page again. We went through an AfD, wasting the time of numerous editors, just to show you that the information in those types of articles is trivial and non-notable. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan magazine. Had hoped you would take the initiative and do the redirects yourself, but to no avail. You could include a paragraph on each in the target's redirect, but a separate article simply won't meet notability criteria. If you wish to add the material, it's not erased, simply look at the article's history and you can pull any relevant info from there. Onel5969 TT me 17:43, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alireza JJ

Hello, I was wondering why you keep reverting the page Alireza JJ back to the redirection. Everything has reference and I have deleted the parts that contained original research. Please review the references again and review the references. Everything in the article is mentioned in the references. Thank you, --Farjj (talk) 03:57, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Because the article went through an AfD, wherein the consensus was to redirect. Your continued recreation of the page could be construed disruptive editing.Onel5969 TT me 10:43, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
How can I recreate this page? Does that mean that I can never edit this page again? If that is the case I would like to recreate a new page at least! Thanks for your response--Farjj (talk) 19:43, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Farjj, this is from the guidelines regarding article deletions: "Articles that have been deleted in the past generally should not be re-created unless the reason for deletion is specifically addressed (for information on determining the reason why the page was deleted, see Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted?). If the article was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, you should read the full deletion discussion before re-creating. Articles that are re-created without any substantial changes can be re-deleted immediately (see CSD G4). This applies regardless of whether you wrote the original article. If you are uncertain whether your new article will adequately address the original reasons for deletion, you may wish to create a draft version of it in your sandbox and then request feedback at deletion review." Hope this helps.Onel5969 TT me 21:56, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969 Thank you --Farjj (talk) 02:08, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

revdel of Henry E. Noyes

Hi, this doesn't appear to be a copyvio as the online content is a straightforward reproduction of Cullum's Register - this volume of which was published in 1891 so it's well out of copyright by now. Even the supplements quoted are pre-1924 so again copyright expired. It's a separate issue but I quite agree with removing the material as being difficult to read etc. Nthep (talk) 16:20, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nthep - Thanks for the follow-up. I looked at the source, and saw that it was copyrighted material, without understanding that they had taken it from somewhere else. I agree that the material, regardless of the copyright issue, needs a major re-write to be readable. Onel5969 TT me 16:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

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Britishfinance (talk) 21:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, sorry about that, my mistake! kind regards, Britishfinance (talk) 22:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, Britishfinance, it happens. I've even done it a few times myself... . Onel5969 TT me 01:18, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Question about prose suggestion

Dear Onel5969,

I saw you placed a suggestion on my page about converting the page to prose. I am not convinced I want to do this because I think this article is right in the middle of pros and lists. (Also in the near future images will be added). Would like to keep it as it is. Is that also oke?

If so, how do I remove the suggestion on top of the page?

Thanks for checking it by the way

Sincerely,

MarqyF --MarqyF (talk) 13:55, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MarqyF -- almost always prose is preferred over list. The major exceptions are when you have something like a filmography in a bio. In this case, the Education, Academic and Professional experience should almost certainly be converted. Wikipedia has a policy called WP:NOTRESUME, and this would fall under that category. The Awards and publications lists are fine to remain that way, although the awards needs to be trimmed to about half its size... get rid of all the non-notable awards. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:11, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi One15969,

Thank you for your reply. I understand what you mean, but it will take me some time to re-write the texts. I hope that's oke. Kind regards, MarqyF (talk) 17:39, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ps: if you maybe have an example page that is concert good prose while also summing up things I would me much obliged MarqyF (talk) 17:51, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi One15969,

I changed the lists into prose and trimmed the Awards to only notable awards. If oke by you, can de suggestion on top of the page be removed?

Thank you! MarqyF (talk) 12:56, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MarqyF - nice job. Removed the tag, but had to tag it with another one. While you have references, you are very light on footnotes. Footnotes help researchers understand where the different facts in the article come from. One of the knocks on WP is that so much stuff on here is inaccurate. Footnotes help dispel that notion. Keep up the good work.Onel5969 TT me 13:04, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi One15969, Thanks for your reply. I understand what you are saying about the footnotes, but the point is that next to the articles I refer to, the rest of the information is gathered by reading (unpublished) writings of Albert Szabo himself given to me by his heirs. I also talked to these heirs, also representatives of The Albert Szabo and Brenda Dyer Szabo Collection. I cannot really 'footnote' this because it is not-published information. How do you suggest I tackle this one? Sincere, MarqyF (talk) 13:31, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MarqyF - Now that's a problem. Please see WP:OR. This is a huge no-no on Wikipedia. You must remove any information which does not come from a reliable, secondary source. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a research journal. Onel5969 TT me 15:18, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi One15969,

No, that is not what I mean. The information is all correct. I mean more that the summing up came from himself, he ordered it chronologically, but he actually was wat the article says, and all the experiences/awards etc are true. My point is: do I have to link to every education he did? Every position he had? I've seen many Wikipedia pages where it says 'mr x studied there and there', had a career there and there, with no reference whatsoever. So what do I do to make it right? MarqyF (talk) 15:50, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

MarqyF (talk) 15:50, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MarqyFFirst, don't go by what other articles do or don't do, that's called an other stuff exists argument. Just because an article exists on Wikipedia does not mean it is necessarily a good model to base a new article on. Wikipedia is monitored by volunteers, so it's not unusual for an inappropriate article, or more frequently stuff included in an article, to slip through the cracks. Remember, a core principle of Wikipedia is that any information which is not cited can be removed immediately. If all the information in a single paragraph came from a single source, than a single footnote at the end of the paragraph is okay. But if the assertions come from disparate sources, then you need to footnote each fact. If you can't put a footnote to something, from a reliable source, it should be removed. Usually there is a bio page on these notable folks that you can link to which will cover the education/positions/awards. Again, anything you can't footnote should be removed. And finally, be aware that what I outline above is what I like to call best practices (which I base on what an article would go through in going for GA or FA status). You could walk away from the article right now, it's tagged for more footnotes, and other editors may (or may not) work on it. I just want to make sure that you haven't included original research in the article, that everything in the article came from the 3 sources listed at the bottom as references. Anything not in those 3 sources should be removed.Onel5969 TT me 16:00, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A quick FYI

I noticed you've reverted several video game character articles back to their redirects lately, some under suspicion of being socks. Just wanted to confirm for you, they are sockmaster Raymondskie99. -- ferret (talk) 13:41, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ferret - Will keep my eye out. Onel5969 TT me 14:12, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And ferret, just saw your comment on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max Caulfield discussion. I have added a comment there, do you think it would be appropriate to close the AfD, and G5 the article?Onel5969 TT me 14:18, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Technically, he unredirected it, didn't create it, so I don't know if G5 is appropriate. Additionally, if the keeps are leaning as they are, it's just asking for a DRV and refund and it'll be back anyway. -- ferret (talk) 14:21, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Thought I'd throw it out there. Onel5969 TT me 14:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re-examine an article?

Hi! You'd moved a student's work to the draftspace at Draft:Under the Feet of Jesus (novel). I've done some retooling and wanted to know if you could move it live. I'd move it live myself except that I oversaw the student's course and as such, I don't think it's appropriate to move their work out of AfC. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 18:17, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ReaderofthePack- It looks like Bkissin has already very appropriately moved it into the mainspace. I've reviewed it, so it's good to go. Thanks for the effort. Onel5969 TT me 01:34, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Frederick William Stellhorn

The Stellhorn article is ready to go into the main article space now. However, given your interest in the article I am starting a discussion here.

Rationale that it is ready: 1. It was never threatened with deletion in the first place, nor submitted for AfC as best as I can tell. It doesn't absolutely need to go through AfC. 2. In the last few weeks since you said it was under sourced, another user formatted the sources properly 3. You claimed that there were "virtually no independent sources"--this is too vague. Specifically, sources two and four are independent. The rest of the sources came from the denomination he was a leader in, or from a merged denomination that later included the body. Source one does not establish notability, but source four is from a Christian-topical encyclopedia--a tertiary source, and it is from a different denomination than the one that holds him as a leader. That is enough to establish notability. It is my understanding that general non-Lutheran protestant references from his lifetime to his theology/or to him do exist. I went and added one of them, so that would be source 9. It is an original book review by a third party reviewer of one of the Stellhorn's more significant books.

I am not a member of, or have I ever been, a member of a denomination that promotes Stellhorn or his theology. Nor am I paid by any Lutheran denomination. If you have some compelling reason it must stay in draft, let me know.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 21:39, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Correction, another user did submit it to AfC six days ago. I had not noticed this. Still, I would like to know if you will object to me moving directly it back do main article space if the person who submitted it is okay with that, too.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 21:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

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Lithopsian (talk) 20:44, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lithopsian - any particular reason?Onel5969 TT me 22:05, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No?!? I can only imagine edits got crossed. I reverted an edit back to a redirect and intended to curate the redirect. It has since been converted back to an article, so the point is probably moot. Lithopsian (talk) 22:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again, Lithopsian - not sure if it's moot. I felt that the article had been split from another article (with abbreviated, but attribution), after it had originally been merged into the other article. In most cases, I would agree with restoring the redirect, however, in this instance most species deserve their own article. It has been restored as an article, but if you feel there is an overwhelming reason not to have a separate article, I'd love to hear them.Onel5969 TT me 22:18, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm on the fence. At the time that I reverted, the article was simply an un-merge of the original short stub, so it was obvious to undo. Since then it has been much expanded and probably stands well as a separate article, although there is still duplication where it was previously merged to Dolichorhynchops. Species are generally considered notable enough for their own article, but this one is both extinct and dubious so there is certainly an argument to keep it merged. The previous merge was apparently not discussed, but also not disputed. Possibly a close connection to the subject, possibly merits discussion. Lithopsian (talk) 15:33, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have unreviewed a page you curated

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Britishfinance (talk) 22:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Britishfinance - any particular reason?
Sorry about this, I had a whole series of articles opened by that particular editor open and was fixing the talk pages and the stubs - they all had the same issues. I didn't realise you had patrolled one or two in the list just before I pressed the green button before closing them - my mistake! kind regards. Britishfinance (talk) 22:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No worries... have done the same thing myself. Was just wondering if there was something I missed. Onel5969 TT me 22:13, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Britishfinance (talk) 22:04, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Same mistake by me here (as per above). sorry again. Britishfinance (talk) 22:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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About marked for deletion Marcio Cerquinho

Hello! Why "Simply does not meet notability criteria."? Marcio is Brazilian curling champion, member of national teams, participant of at least five top-level world tournaments (3 World championships an 2 World Cup legs). As we can read at Wikipedia:WikiProject Curling/Article Guidelines#Notability: "... 2. Has participated at the World Curling Championships or the World Mixed Doubles Curling Championship." (and here that's it at least) I don't understand... -- Alexey Gustow (talk) 00:47, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Алексей Густов - I'm sorry. I missed this message. That was my error, shouldn't have tagged it.Onel5969 TT me 15:41, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Torsten Grönfors

His name is spelled wrong it is "Thorsten", as you can see in all provided links and sources. So why delete? Emanuelkarlsten (talk) 14:20, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Then you have to "move" the article, so that its editing history is maintained. What you did was a WP:CUTANDPASTE move, which loses attribution. If you can't move the article because there is an existing page which is blocking the move (in this case, possible the redirect?), then you have to request the blocking page be deleted so you can move the page. Hope this helps.Onel5969 TT me 15:44, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Crowder

Here are my reasons to keep Tom Crowder's article:

  • He was an important player for his college and high school, both in football and track.
  • He played in NFL Europe.
  • He did play 2 games in the NFL, although most of his time was spent on the practice squad.

You make the decision that feel is best. It would be important to consult fans from the University of Arkansas.Tecmo (talk) 00:14, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please look at WP:NCOLLATH, which he doesn't make, regardless of how ardent the fans of UofAK are. And he didn't play in a single NFL game, so he doesn't pass WP:GRIDIRON. Sorry.Onel5969 TT me 00:17, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gyan bharti edits

i think you removed too many matter.. basic info about school are not promotional like about Science and IT block and many things Includents.h (talk) 14:44, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. Very promotional, and totally uncited.Onel5969 TT me 14:45, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Dab corrections

Hello Onel, I have corrected the falt that was done, I have sited that that Clayton is of Manchester, Historically in Lancashire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.66.1.64 (talk) 20:37, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Onel, I have corrected the falt that was done, I have sited that that Clayton is of Manchester, Historically in Lancashire. So can remove that "disambiguation needed" sentence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.66.1.64 (talk) 20:39, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. Anytime something is tagged and you make the correction, you can remove the tag. I've done it for you. If you want to get more involved in editing, you might sign up for your own account. That way it's easier to contact you. Onel5969 TT me 22:28, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thomas Hunt (slaver)

Regarding your reversion of my edits: Can you kindly participate in the talk page to determine whether the redirect to Squanto is preferable to a stub about Thomas Hunt? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thomas_Hunt_(slaver) Thank you. Cbmccarthy (talk) 21:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This

Was this done by accident? 92.13.138.198 (talk) 00:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alberto Nassetti

Why you remove this page (redirect to Airbus Industrie Flight 129 ) ? I'm Alberto's brother. Alberto must die a second time? His life is not just the Toulouse accident. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.72.160.92 (talk) 12:40, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about your brother, but WP is WP:NOTMEMORIAL.Onel5969 TT me 12:58, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why, I can't reply "no words"? Alberto's page is not a memorial page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.72.160.92 (talk) 13:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Because "no words" is a null term. No point in leaving it. Your argument above was that it was a memorial, for that is the only value in the article as per WP standards.Onel5969 TT me 19:02, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Members Only, Vol. 2

I do not see a reason in the slightest to remove a whole album that clearly has historical context. It does not need to be redirected. If you think it needs to be worked on, leave a comment, don't delete the whole body of work. I personally worked very hard on that and it was extremely disrespectful.Cameronsmiley2345qwerty (talk) 19:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cameronsmiley2345qwerty - And I find it extremely disrespectful when editors don't learn the notability requirements and then leave rude comments. If you wish to work on the article, do so in draft space. In fact, I've moved it for you. You can now find it at Draft:Members Only, Vol. 2 (Mixtape). Now you can work on it until it meets notability requirements as per WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG. Do not leave a comment on my page again, they will be summarily removed. Also, learn to sign your posts. Onel5969 TT me 19:01, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't mean to be rude, thank you for moving it. You may remove this post.Cameronsmiley2345qwerty (talk) 19:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't remove polite comments, Cameronsmiley2345qwerty. If you need help on the article, don't hesitate to ask. And please remember to "sign" your comments on talk pages with four tildes (like this: ~~~~).Onel5969 TT me 19:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for bringing that to my attention, as well as the guidelines. Cameronsmiley2345qwerty (talk) 19:34, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted messages from your talk page

In this edit John shaftman (now blocked for socking/undisclosed paid editing) removed a bunch of messages from your talk page. Perhaps you'd like to review them and maybe add them to one of your archives. - Alexis Jazz 02:03, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

I just wanted to say thank you for cleaning up after the mess I made on AES64! I'm still a bit new to editing and should have realized that disambiguation pages weren't very helpful to link to. So thanks! :) GodRaine (talk) 03:19, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GodRaine - No worries. I don't know how many dabs I created before I learned to check. On your preferences page, if you click on the gadgets tab, and scroll down to the appearances section, you can click on the "Display links to disambiguation pages in orange". That way, when you make an edit, you can see what links to a dab page. Hope this helps.Onel5969 TT me 03:09, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Actually that's super helpful - thank you again!! GodRaine (talk) 03:19, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Eagleash (talk) 00:12, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eagleash - and the reason would be? Onel5969 TT me 00:14, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, kind of an accidental edit. I immediately re-reviewed it. It did have the effect of removing the deletion icon from the new page feed though! Eagleash (talk) 00:18, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, Eagleash - I've done that on more than one occasion myself. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't something I had missed. Keep up the good work.Onel5969 TT me 00:21, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Short descriptions

Please note when you're doing your short descriptions that much of the MBTA system is not in Boston. Central station (MBTA), for example, is in Cambridge - a separate municipality. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:46, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cwrt Rawlin Primary School

Please review the policy again before PRODing non toxic articles. Thanks. It would save a lot of work others having to review the reviews of the reviewers ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:14, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reminder, Kudpung - don't know why I didn't simply redirect.Onel5969 TT me 16:37, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting Copy/Paste Move

Hello, why did you revert me on First Shō Dynasty, House of First Shō, Second Shō Dynasty, and House of Second Shō? I was moving them due to a poor translation to English, I left an edit description saying what I was doing, and I left the copy/paste template on all the talk pages. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 18:27, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sturmgewehr88 - What you did is called a "cut and paste move". Please read WP:CUTANDPASTE. When you do that, you lose the history of the article's attribution, which is against WP's rules. You must instead "move" the page, which keeps the history. If yo can't move it (for instance, if there is a redirect blocking the move), you must request the blocking page be deleted as per WP:G6, a housekeeping move, and simply state that you wish it deleted in order to move a page. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 18:33, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Onel5969: Ah, I was going off of WP:COPYWITHIN; it said I just had to leave an edit summary linking where the copied information came from as I did with this edit. Either way, I’ve added a G6 deletion request on the redirects so the articles can be moved. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 21:24, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
COPYWITHIN is used when copying material from an existing page into another already existing article, or when splitting information off from an article into a new article. You failed to read the entire guideline, wherein it discusses WP:CUTANDPASTE moves in section 6.1, which is what you did. But thanks for doing it the right way, now. Onel5969 TT me 21:29, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Nicholas_Sneathen

Hey you sent this page back to draft claiming not enough footnotes. Draft:Nicholas_Sneathen. "Footnotes" are not required for referencing as you know and this page has 12 well formated refs (I know, I formated them). Please move back. Legacypac (talk) 19:16, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Legacypac - while not required, they should be there. Without them, an article of that length isn't ready for mainspace. In addition, without those footnotes it is difficult to ascertain the notability of the subject. BTW, thanks for all you do over at AfC. I used to do quite a bit of work there myself, and I know how difficult it can be.Onel5969 TT me 19:21, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The creator is long gone. I found the page in Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Stale drafts. It is fairly obvious where some of the paragraphs are sourced too. I feel topic is notable even just because so much can be written about someone who died so long ago, but if you feel strongly otherwise AfD is available. We had a page on a "body servent" of George Washington (about all we know about the person) kept at AfD based on a single memtion in one source, similar era. Legacypac (talk) 19:29, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Indy Lights

Thank you for keeping an eye on Indy Lights etc. Do you think it's worth a visit to WP:AN/3RR or shall we wait and see if our IP friend responds on the talk page first? Technically, the last round of edits are from a different address, but it's within the same /64 (i.e. typically allocated by the ISP to the same customer), and has an unmistakable quack. Certes (talk) 20:01, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No worries Certes - The initial change was to like 10 NASCAR (or other US racing articles). Not worth the 3RR report, imho. I've requested page protection, so let's see if that takes care of it. Good work on Dabs, btw. Have you ever thought about doing more article creation? That way you could get autopatrolled, and then perhaps help out over at NPP. You have a good eye. Onel5969 TT me 21:00, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks but I'm not sure I'm cut out for NPP. I'm an inclusionist, and many would consider me too soft in allowing new articles. Whilst I appreciate everyone's work in signing off my page creations, it's up to the NPP team to set autopatrolling criteria which fit their work patterns, rather than for individuals to game the system by artificially inflating their statistics. They could consider manually granting autopatrolled to everyone who's created, say, 1000 pages if that helps reduce their workload. Certes (talk) 21:17, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I see that a discussion I started has attracted a !vote. The comment may be a little light on reasoned argument and policy references, but it's good to see a brand new editor find their way around Wikipedia so quickly. Certes (talk) 18:14, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It finally came to me

Hello O. I know you've been working away adding "short description" tags to the 'pedia. Something about them kept rattling around in my memory. Today I finally remembered the "Persondata" section that was at the bottom of our biography articles. It seems that if you edit here long enough everything old is new again :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:17, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that I seek them out, but my WP philosophy is do what you can when you can. So, since there is a movement to put these on every wikipage to assist mobile users, it doesn't take much effort to do. If I can't figure out how to succinctly state a description of the article, I simply take a pass.Onel5969 TT me 03:49, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A good and useful WP philosophy. I went searching and found that persondata was deprecated almost four years ago - hmmm I thought it was more recent - dratted dusty old memory banks. Have a pleasant week. MarnetteD|Talk 05:13, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unreviewed C-class article

Hi, since you marked a recent stub of mine as reviewed, I wonder if you would be good enough to do the same for a C-class article that has been sitting in unreviewed limbo for over a month: Anna Maria Erdődy. I can find no good reason why it should have been 'passed over' in this way and left unreviewed... Thanks for your consideration and help. Alphaten (talk) 12:43, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alphaten - Patience is a virtue... . Your article wasn't "passed over". Currently the backlog at NPP goes back to December. It's not unusual for an article to sit in the queue for a few months. But it was a nice article, keep up the good work.Onel5969 TT me 12:51, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5969 - Many thanks for your prompt attention. I will certainly bear your admonition in mind in future :) Alphaten (talk) 13:00, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Portugese"

Just to let you know that I have corrected your typo ("Portugese") in short descriptions. SLBedit (talk) 01:43, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Thank you so much for doing that, SLBedit. Won't make that mistake again (hopefully). Again, thanks. Onel5969 TT me 01:57, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Discord (album)

Hello, I was unsure if I should reply on my talk page or yours, so I thought yours would most likely be best. I also apologize for the lack of formatting in my first e-mail (I was on mobile, and my mobile is very old, I was unsure if it would use any type of code).

I tried to read the WP:NALBUM article you linked, and I have difficulty understanding it 100%. Either way, I don't see why the album does not meet the requirements as the article I wrote followed exactly as another article of a different album produced by that artist. So I think it's notability is in check. Because I copied the formatting of a different article to ensure accuracy (and a higher chance of approval) what about it made it a stub?

Also, the ways I've seen for making a new article all consist of "searching for the topic and choosing the red link to create it if it does not show up" but I cannot do this for this album as "Disorder (album)" (which would be the articles name) is taken as a redirect. Since I am not of higher status on Wikipedia, I cannot delete a redirect. I am a little frustrated as what I want to do is simple and inline with guidelines and such, but seem to be going in a circle. I'd like to ask for help.

Also, I apologize if I sound angry or agitated, it's mainly at my own self for not being able to fully understand and utilize the site. None towards you. --CresentCross (talk) 07:43, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CresentCross - First, it's common practice to keep conversations together, so you could've responded on your talk page, but we can continue talking here. Regarding other articles being like the one you created, that's called "other stuff exists". That's a very good practice for when you are first starting to create articles. However, WP is run by volunteers, so there's a lot of crap out there, which isn't really up to encyclopedic standards. The fact of it being a stub is simply the amount of info contained in the article. Third, I never said the album wasn't notable, simply that the article didn't show it met the notability standards. For example, if an article didn't exist about Ronald Reagan, I could write a one-line stub which says "Ronald Reagan was an American politician." Now, there's no doubt Reagan is notable, but the article I wrote doesn't show how he is notable. The article you wrote suffers from the same issue. It may be notable, but you didn't say how or why it meets any of the 7 criteria in WP:NALBUM. Your article simply cited discogs, which shows the album exists, but doesn't show notability. Look at those 7 criteria, see which one(s) the album meets, then add those to the article. Also, you'll need to add a footnote to show where you got the information. Finally, the last thing is that you might consider simply working on existing articles for a while, until you get used to WP, rather than jumping right in on article creation. Regardless, don't hesitate to ask for help.Onel5969 TT me 11:27, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Onel5656 - I understand for the most part what you are saying (also I apologize, I didn't mean for it to sound like you said it's not notable, I meant in general) I copied the format from this exact article of an album by the same artist. I can't see almost any difference between that article and mine. I used the same first sentence and replaced the key information. Also, I am not entirely sure how/what "to cite" or "footnote" means. My understanding was that they were somewhat synonymous. I added a reference because I thought that'd help with it's notability/approval. I also don't really know where to fill that information, I would have when following the other albums format, but I didn't see anything of it. Can I use the same link as the cite and footnote? Can the artists official discography website be used as a cite? Also, again, I did try to read the article you linked about notability, but I find it hard to understand unfortunately. This is also why I ask for your help, to maybe put some things in lameman's terms.
If I made a draft of the article in my sandbox, would you be able to point things out? So that when it's in a likely to be approved state, it can be copy and pasted to make the real article?
Also, I use the Fandom wiki (not sure if you've heard of it or seen it's layout and use of HTML) so I am much more familiar with that when it comes to practice and codes. But I am aware that it's mostly a watered-down version of WP. But it did allow me to become familiarized with codes, therefore the start to WP was a little less jarring. --CresentCross (talk) 11:25, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again CresentCross - sorry to take so long to respond, but real life got in the way, and I wanted to answer you in-depth. First, citations and footnotes are similar, but not identical. Citations, also called references, are listed at the end of the article. Footnotes are annotated within the body of the article, and then also appear at the end of the article. There are various ways this occurs. Most editors label the footnotes section, "References", I think mainly because what goes there is the {{reflist}} template, which automatically collects and numbers the footnotes. In many articles, this is the only section for references. In addition to the footnotes, some editors then list other source material in this section, either before or after the footnotes. Some editors break these additional sources into a separate section, titled "Bibliography", or "Additional references". Other editors will label the section with the reflist "Footnotes", and the additional ref section, "References". It's just a matter of personal preference. Personally, I use the "References" for the footnotes, and "Additional references" for the other. In addition to those, there is also a section called "External links". You can read about what goes there at WP:EL. Regarding formatting them, it's easy once you get the hang of it.
The issue with your article was that it didn't establish notability. WP:NALBUMS is what is known as a "specialty notability", also known as "SN". These are notability criteria outside of WP:GNG, which are specific to different types of articles. This was done because it was realized that there might be some notable subjects which couldn't reach the GNG threshold. For example, certain academics are considered automatically notable if they meet certain criteria, but might not have enough independent coverage to pass GNG. Same thing with Albums. Here's my take on the 7 specialty criteria:
1 Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble who created it.
This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 1] except for the following:
1 Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about the recording, and all advertising that mentions the recording, including manufacturers' advertising.
2 Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases. - to me, this is redundant, as it seems to be simply the same thing as wp:gng.
2 The single or album has appeared on any country's national music chart. - This does not mean any chart, but the national chart of a country, which would be the Billboard chart in the U.S. or the Oricon chart in Japan.
  1. The recording has been certified gold or higher in at least one country. - This one is pretty self-explanatory, has the record been certified as Gold, Platinum or silver, see: Music recording certification#Certification thresholds
  2. The recording has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. - Again, self explanatory, if the album has won one of these awards, it's notable.
  3. The recording was performed in a medium that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article. Read the policy and notability guideline on subjects notable only for one event, for further clarifications). - This one, imho, is the most problematic, as this is the most subjective. For example if "I'll Be There for You" had not reached #1 in Canada, and wasn't a platinum album, it would still be notable for being the theme of a long-running notable television show. However, the theme from The Wiggles, might not be deemed notable.
  4. The recording was in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. - I actually can't help you with this one, as I have never come upon an album which fits this criteria.
  5. The recording has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network. - I actually can't help you with this one, as I have never come upon an album which fits this criteria.
Finally, yes, I'd be willing to help you develop the article in your sandbox, and this can be where you figure out citations/footnotes. Simply shoot me a message here to take a look and I will. Onel5969 TT me 17:07, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unity of Command 2

The game has been formally announced by the developer, see: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/03/01/the-flare-path-fogbound/, https://www.pcgamer.com/unity-of-command-2-trailer-shows-new-3d-look/ and https://unityofcommand.net/blog/2019/02/28/developer-diary-20/. The AfD discussion you're citing is outdated, so I reverted your edit.141.138.39.142 (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Being "announced" is irrelevant. When it comes out you may revert the edit. Until that time, the AfD takes precedence.Onel5969 TT me 17:46, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken. Can you explain why Cyberpunk 2077 article is up? The UoCII article was redirected because of WP:TOOSOON, not because of WP:Crystal.141.138.39.142 (talk) 18:03, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reinstating the article Pannonian Romance

Dear Onel5969,

I am recreated the article Pannonian Romance, in accordance to Wikipedia:Guide_to_deletion for several reasons and I intend to clean it up a bit, please do not revert back to a redirect. The deletion discussion reached no consensus, one editor was for deletion, two for keep, and three for redirecting, of the proposed redirections one was for Pannonia, one was for History of Romanian and one was for Keszthely culture. The first redirect was to History of Romanian but that was later changed to Keszthely culture. I disagree with both redirects, History of Romanian has very limited information on Pannonian Romance, and Keszthely culture omits the use of the language in other settlements in other parts of Pannonia, this was not a language that was used by just one single settlement. The editor who saw a consensus reached should have updated the redirect articles to include the information of the closed article. The editors that discussed if the article should be deleted, redirected or kept, had not contributed or had only contributed very little to the article. The main contributing editors of the article did not partake in the discussion. The counterpart to this article exists in five other languages Asturianu, Español, Français, Italiano and Latina. The article is missing some citations but it is not void of citations. --Alternative Transport (talk) 08:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alternative Transport - By doing that your action overturned the consensus of the discussion. Regardless of whether or not your personally feel there wasn't a consensus, the closing editor clearly did, and in reviewing the discussion, I would agree with them. The fact that an article on this topic exists in other Wikis is irrelevant. With the exception of one or two wikis, all other wikis have lower criteria for notability than English wiki does.Onel5969 TT me 13:43, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Onel5969, The previous discussion were not about the notability, but if it was properly cited and/or if it was speculation. Smaller and less notable dialects and historic languages have their own English Wikipedia article. The article was reinstated in 2009 and stayed up for 8 years. During that period numerous editors improved it and added citations. I will join the AfD discussion.Alternative Transport (talk) 15:01, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't matter what the focus of the discussion was. It matters that consensus reached the decision that it should be a redirect.Onel5969 TT me 15:02, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What We Must

I've read WP:NALBUM and I still don't understand why you've reverted my edition. As I'm beginner here, could you simply explain to me why Jaga Jazzist debut album is ok and my edtion of "What We Must" is not? Niegodzisie (talk) 22:36, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Niegodzisie - WP is run by volunteers, so a lot of stuff gets put on here which doesn't really belong. Your argument is what is known as other stuff exists, and isn't really a strong argument most of the time. In fact, however, you are correct and there is very little difference between the stub you created and the other album, so I've redirected the other album as well. Now, that does not mean that neither album is not notable, simply that in both articles there is nothing which shows how it is notable, simply that it exists. For a discussion on notability, see WP:NALBUMS. Also, a couple of sections above, I go in-depth about the notability criteria for albums. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 17:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Now i understand. I need to find more reviews of these albums. Niegodzisie (talk) 19:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Advice Needed

Hi there. I am kinda new here and I am trying to learn about Wikipedia standards of approval of an article. Recently I've been working with few draft to check my understanding and I'm a bit confused here. I tried to clean up this page by adding sources, infobox, proper structure that we follow on Wikipedia. The sources added were quite notable and authentic (Telegraaf, NU.nl). But for some reason it's been reverted back to draft. Just curious what more it needs to get approved. I've list of round about 10 dutch actors on which I would like to work. Thank you for your attention.Lunar Clock (talk) 14:49, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lunar Clock - There are two issues with the article, first, it does not appear that this actor meets WP:NACTOR, not having had significant roles in two notable productions. In this instance, I think it might be a case of WP:TOOSOON. His one significant role to date is in a film which might not meet WP's notability criteria. And having a significant role in a single episode of a series also probably doesn't qualify. While the sourcing is from reliable sources, they are little more than glorified press releases, announcing that so and so is in such and such production, so he doesn't appear to pass WP:GNG either. I notice that it was going through the AfC process, and after it had been declined, you got involved and made your changes. Then you simply moved it to the mainspace, rather than letting it be reviewed again. You probably should let it run through AfC after you do more work on it. Hope this helps.Onel5969 TT me 17:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Really appreciate your help. I understand it now. I'll see what more can be added to improve. Thank you.Lunar Clock (talk) 01:45, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sennett Bathing Beauties

"without proper attribution" what do you mean? CapnZapp (talk) 19:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Respond, please. Or perhaps you were making a test edit? CapnZapp (talk) 09:37, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Patience is a virtue. CapnZapp. See WP:CWW. Onel5969 TT me 11:18, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NGHTCRWLRS

Hello, I am the writer of NGHTCRWLRS. WP:MOS does not apply to creative works; see ABBA. - NorthPark1417 (talk) 03:53, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi NorthPark1417 - Nice work on the articles. Can you point to the policy regarding creative works? ABBA is excluded not because they are a creative group, but because it is an Acronym. See MOS:CAPSACRS. Take a look at Pink (singer), while not the same case, similar thought process. I'll see if I can find a more concrete example for you, but one doesn't come to mind at the moment. If I do, I'll ping you.Onel5969 TT me 03:59, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Okay NorthPark1417, take a look at Mstrkrft, but there are a few others which have the all caps. It's worth a question at the WP:TEAHOUSE. I'll post one there and let you know the answer. Onel5969 TT me 04:05, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to coincide with the application of {{lowercase title}}. I found other articles using all caps, as well. - NorthPark1417 (talk) 04:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, NorthPark1417, I've researched it, and several other editors have looked into it as well. There are quite a few guidelines and policies which deal with this. The primary ones are MOS:TITLE, WP:MOSTM, WP:BANDNAME, WP:NCCAPS and MOS:TITLECAPS. You can look at all of those, but the best example is in the Trademark guideline (MOSTM). There it gives the most clear guidance on the subject, pointing to Time magazine, which is stylized TIME, and to the band Kiss, which is stylized KISS. This latter one gives the clear understanding how to treat these band and album titles. 23:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
I see an issue using trademark since those are logo-based. The press writes about bands using all capitals, like you mentioned, PWRBTTM, 2DOPEBOYZ, whereas Kiss appears in print as Kiss. If a guideline and not a rule, we match the style the press uses, without change in formatting, like Queensrÿche or Old MacDonald. - NorthPark1417 (talk) 02:02, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. Sorry. If you want to WP:wikilawyer, go ahead. You'll lose. You're not looking at all the guidelines and policies. And with that, I'm out. Don't post on my page again, have no interest wasting any more time with you. Onel5969 TT me 02:09, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sweetener listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Sweetener. Since you had some involvement with the Sweetener redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Thryduulf (talk) 19:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rush songs

Hi, User:Bulletsaregone has been creating a lot of articles for Rush songs, some of which are at new titles for previously redirected articles (eg. Distant Early Warning (Rush Song) and Distant Early Warning (song)). In this specific example, I noticed you redirected the attempts to recreate the article at the proper title, which is why they may be trying to circumvent that by creating at a different title altogether. Anyway, after seeing a bunch of these being created of late, it makes me wonder if this editor and User:Danieleb82 are one and the same. They've returned numerous times with new user names, only to be blocked, and the focus is always on classic rock songs and albums. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Roomies

Regarding this edit, Roomies is a disambiguation page, but Roomies (disambiguation) doesn't exist yet, and i can't create it until i create an account someday. If you wouldn't mind redirecting one or the other, i'd appreciate it.

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