User talk:Gerda Arendt
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Did you know ...
... that conductor Eugen Szenkar,
who promoted works by Béla Bartók and Gustav Mahler
in Germany, Russia, and Brazil,
caused a "near riot" with the world premiere of
The Miraculous Mandarin?
... that the hymn "Jesu, meine Freude"
by Johann Franck and Johann Crüger mentions
singing in defiance of the "old dragon", death, and fear?
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Dona nobis pacem |
![Die Fliege](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Fly.gif)
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Jerome Kohl
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2020 · illumination, enlightenment and vision
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Did you know ...
... that Ave Maria, an obscure piece for two men's choirs
by Franz Biebl published in 1964,
became a choral standard after Chanticleer
made it part of their holiday programs?
(1 January 2020 · listen to Chanticleer, 2015)
... that John Rutter wrote the text and music for
Angels' Carol, a choral piece for Christmas,
using the Latin "Gloria in excelsis Deo" as a refrain?
(24 December 2019 · listen to us, 2019)
A barnstar for you! - thanks in 2019, visions in 2020
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The Special Barnstar |
Happy New Year, Gerda Arendt! You are receiving this barnstar because, according to this Wikipedia database query, you were the #3 most thanked Wikipedian of 2019, with 1418 entries in Special:Log/thanks during 2019. Congratulations, and, well, thank you for your contributions! ![]() |
- Thank you, Mz7, that's nice, just a statistical number, but nice, especially concluding 2019, a year I designated to be the year of thanks. I thank those who thanked me, - it always feels good to receive this little token of one's work being noticed and even liked. I'll transfer the barnstar to project WP:QAI for which I work. We had three topics in 2019 which are ongoing, and you can help (you all, I mean, member or not) to work on them:
- Improve Psalms articles which come from stub (Psalm 56) to GA (Psalm 84). Thanks to Yoninah, JohnThorne and many more!
- Expand and source translations by LouisAlain who is probably my most prolific "thanks-giver".
- Polish articles of people who recently died, with the goal to have them appear in the Recent deaths section whare - sadly - Peter Schreier and Harry Kupfer are as I write this. Thanks to Coffeeandcrumbs, Martinevans123, Grimes2 and many more.
- What really counts for me are written thanks is prose such as those from Voceditenore and Coffee.
- Let's make 2020 a year of vision, together! Article for today Psalm 103. Happy editing in 2020! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome! Another interesting statistical number: according to a different database query, you were also last year's most thankful Wikipedian, with 4246 uses of the thank tool in 2019. If you meant for 2019 to be your year of thanks, you certainly achieved it.
Mz7 (talk) 01:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- You read my mind that I was more interested in giving than receiving ;) - Of course it's also just a number, - I regard the clicks as a lazy expression of thanks, and count more what I do in thanking users in prose.
- Awesome! Another interesting statistical number: according to a different database query, you were also last year's most thankful Wikipedian, with 4246 uses of the thank tool in 2019. If you meant for 2019 to be your year of thanks, you certainly achieved it.
I hope that visions for 2020 will be as successful as the thanks in 2019:
... that missed friends return (... banned, blocked for no good reason, just given up ...)
... that edit-warring is replaced by discussion - I am on voluntary 1RR
... that people realise when they dominate a discussion too much - I try to stick to 2 comments
... that infoboxes added in good faith (now or in the past) are not regarded as vandalism
... that we'll live up to the legacy of Brian Boulton, in article creation (Percy Grainger and Lost operas by Claudio Monteverdi coming to mind), reviewing the work of others, willingness to seek compromise, and respectful attitude
... or in summary: that good faith and IAR are applied more generally, - just look at Ray's Rules and "go on with life, have a laugh, don't get too upset over this".
- I may add to this list later - this is just a spontaneous wishlist. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- ps: The (missed) Rambling Man is with us again! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 10 January 2020 (UTC) and the (missed) Begoon at least edited his user page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Kirsten Flagstad - Liebestod - 1936 Covent Garden
- Please let me offer my best wishes to you for the year 2020. May all your whishes and aspirations be fulfilled and many thanks for being so patient with heavy cases such as me. In other terms, thanks for being here, so helpful and ready to spare you time to help other users. On my part, I'll try to advance from inept to less inept. Respectfully yours, LouisAlain (talk) 08:56, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- love-ly, thank you! - just began "your radiance consumes all darkness" on my grandparents' wedding anniversary, composed for 2 January 1735, - and more articles about light to come ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- As Wayne Newton said, "Danke Schoen". SchreiberBike | ⌨ 21:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Ave Maria (Biebl)
On 1 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ave Maria (Biebl), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ave Maria, an obscure piece for two men's choirs by Franz Biebl, became a choral standard after Chanticleer made it part of their holiday programs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ave Maria (Biebl). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ave Maria (Biebl)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
222,222
Congratulations! Jmar67 (talk) 01:31, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- in 2020, the things you see ;) - thank you for copy-editing, must be a high number of repeated mistakes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Nun lässest du, o Herr
On 13 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nun lässest du, o Herr, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the hymn "Nun lässest du, o Herr", written by Georg Thurmair as a paraphrase of the Nunc dimittis, appeared with a 16th-century melody in the first Gotteslob, but with a modern one in the second? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nun lässest du, o Herr. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Nun lässest du, o Herr), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Psalm 85
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Justitia_et_pax_-_Brescia_-_Pinacoteca_Tosio-Martinengo_-_13-4-2002.jpg/120px-Justitia_et_pax_-_Brescia_-_Pinacoteca_Tosio-Martinengo_-_13-4-2002.jpg)
— Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- kiss of Justice and Peace --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Nearly 5,000 clicks! Great job on the hook! And the image is beautiful. Yoninah (talk) 14:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- thank you, - you wrote the most interesting part of it: that the famous kiss may be a misunderstanding ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- Nearly 5,000 clicks! Great job on the hook! And the image is beautiful. Yoninah (talk) 14:22, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Jesu meine Freude
Thanks for the edit summary reminding me of BWV227. BHG should certainly "Trotz dem alten Drachen" :-) Guy (help!) 09:11, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- yes and yes, defy the old dragon, and fear on top ("und der Furcht dazu") --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- the section back then was User talk:Gerda Arendt/Archive 2013#Stand and sing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Df7f_BLU8 --Gisel (talk) 17:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, but it's this. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:33, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
You're the sweetest
You always make me smile, thank you for your nice words of encouragement.
I brought you some `Atayef cos baklava is too mainstream ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 12:57, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- This is so especially sweet, thank you, ~ Elias! How did you know that I just typed a comment that said "Sad." twice? Perfect timing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- I am sorry for that. Looks like I'm missing out on a lot of Wikidrama. Anyway, I hope WP treats you nicely and you don't consider quitting ever again. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 10:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- As I said there: I stubbornly stay ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- I am sorry for that. Looks like I'm missing out on a lot of Wikidrama. Anyway, I hope WP treats you nicely and you don't consider quitting ever again. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 10:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre
On 2 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Die Himmel rühmen!" ('The heavens praise'), which begins an 1803 lieder collection by Beethoven setting Gellert's paraphrase of Psalm 19 to music, is also the title of a concert series by pop singer Heino? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
The first in 2020 topic Beethoven, and second in psalms, for a pic of the composer from that year see above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
precious
Hi Gerda, Thankyou for my Precious birthday card, which I always enjoy receiving!! You must be kept fairly busy now that you have found so many deserving recipients, trying to think up things to say to everybody. My Quaker upbringing taps me on the shoulder to warn against taking too much notice of birthdays, but I permit myself a moment of satisfaction and just remember my first edit back in 2006 when (as I now notice) I was passing myself off under another alias. I trust all is well with you? Kind regards, Eebahgum (talk) 22:05, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for another lovely note, Eebahgum! Actually, I take less time for Precious these days, passing no longer every day but only when I see a new name. The birthdays are almost automated, preparing a time after me. I work on this list of memory, - everybody welcome to help: look at Deaths in 2020, see a name whose article is not yet in good shape, change that, and then she or he (just look above) will be mentioned on our Main page, giving them the attention their achievements deserve. My New Year's greting (wishes - flowers - music) is linked on top, and my visions for 2020 will stay for the year. The motto of vision is derived from project Vision 2020, "eliminate avoidable blindness", did you know? It's also a Beethoven year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- "Deaths in 2020" is a bit ominous. I remember there were three real old rustic fellows who always used to sit together in a pub near here. After the first of them died, somebody put a little brass nameplate on the settle where he used to sit. When the second one died, the same thing happened. Then both the nameplates disappeared, because the third man came in with a screwdriver and took them off, saying "It will be me next!" I looked at the article this morning, and February 10 was (at that moment) still invitingly, enticingly, alluringly, menacingly BLANK: but to judge by all the precedents, the resident's list will be full up by tonight. I do not like such chilly hospitality: makes one think of the Wirtshaus in the Winterreise, but I intend to plod on a little further yet, crows, icicles, organ-grinders and all - "Excelsior"! Very best wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 09:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- The title isn't by me ;) - Mirella Freni, la soave fanciulla ... - so the hospitaliy of throughing out dead and unreliable sources, searching for better ones, with Mimi's singing in my head. Will go outside before doing more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- "Deaths in 2020" is a bit ominous. I remember there were three real old rustic fellows who always used to sit together in a pub near here. After the first of them died, somebody put a little brass nameplate on the settle where he used to sit. When the second one died, the same thing happened. Then both the nameplates disappeared, because the third man came in with a screwdriver and took them off, saying "It will be me next!" I looked at the article this morning, and February 10 was (at that moment) still invitingly, enticingly, alluringly, menacingly BLANK: but to judge by all the precedents, the resident's list will be full up by tonight. I do not like such chilly hospitality: makes one think of the Wirtshaus in the Winterreise, but I intend to plod on a little further yet, crows, icicles, organ-grinders and all - "Excelsior"! Very best wishes, Eebahgum (talk) 09:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Maria, Königin des Friedens
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Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
The architect just celebrated 100! I took one of the images, but not the lead ... - album here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
A hello
Just popping in to leave a greeting. First, thanks for all your excellent work on the wiki. I appreciate all the encouragement you've given me. --LilHelpa (talk) 00:44, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- LilHelpa, thank you, great helper! I remember how you made the very beginning easy for me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Beethoven
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Good morning! Other than Bach, Beethoven is my favorite classical composer. The first time I heard 'Moonlight Sonata' was when I was eight years old when my Mom played it on our piano. It touched my heart deeply. God bless. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 04:43, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gwillhickers! Rather similar memories: at age 10, I began piano lessons, and one of the first records my mother bought contained that 14th sonata, performed by Friedrich Gulda. I played Für Elise rather soon, and it became my father's favourite, played on all his birthdays. I learned the first movement of the sonata in self-study, but wouldn't manage the third which impresses me the deepest. - I chenged the header, - it's his year! Memories of singing Die Himmel rühmen des Ewigen Ehre and Choral Fantasy date back to age 12. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn)
On 25 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in his 1831 chorale cantata Verleih uns Frieden, Mendelssohn set Luther's German prayer for peace to a new melody? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Verleih uns Frieden (Mendelssohn)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Alte Liebe
On 28 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alte Liebe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alte Liebe (Old Love) is a novel about a couple married for 40 years, told by a couple married longer but separated, with chapters written alternately by wife and husband? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alte Liebe. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Alte Liebe), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Wug·a·po·des 01:24, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
ALte Liebe - old love. In the book, a couple married during the German student movement. - In memory of Käthe, married in the 1970s. Part of my February flowers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/20/Elke_Heidenreich_%2B_Bernd_Schroeder_auf_dem_Blauen_Sofa_%28cropped%29.jpg/220px-Elke_Heidenreich_%2B_Bernd_Schroeder_auf_dem_Blauen_Sofa_%28cropped%29.jpg)
- So I found this photo of the authors together. It's not very good, but is it better than none? Also for the Bernd Schroeder article? --GRuban (talk) 16:08, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Yes!! thank you! - We have a rather good one of her but I found it unfair to use for the joint venture. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Infobox book
I am helping with Sixto-Clementine Vulgate. I do not want to italicize the IB title but cannot resolve the problem. There is a parameter to force it but it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Otherwise I will ask on the template's talk page. The idea here is that the English title is an informal one and should not be italicized. Jmar67 (talk) 22:52, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Good idea to ask on the template talk. It should not have the title italic, when the article title is not, per the parameter. Never had that problem, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Perhaps RexxS would know? - We don't talk about the article title style - which works - but the title in the infobox itself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:26, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- I have a solution, but it will need consensus to change the main infobox template. --RexxS (talk) 02:41, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, both! - see also WP:QAI/Infobox, - and once we are there can we also install a parameter Image_upright? ... which actually should be in every infobox with an image. - Rossini's birthday today, a rare thing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- RexxS and all: once in wishlist mood, for Precious anniversaries, I copy a template, and manually change the user name, the image size and the years. I like to do that, because it's moments of remembering that I/we are thankful for a user's contribs. However, for fewer typing errors and life after me - returning from a funeral ... - I could imagine to call a template with a year as the only parameter, which fetches the basepagename and adjusts the imagesize accordingly, 1 year 0.2, 2 - 0.25, 3 - 0,3 ... - so far we have eight, and need to find a way for 10 and beyond to not get much larger ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- I have a solution, but it will need consensus to change the main infobox template. --RexxS (talk) 02:41, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
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Eight years! |
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- I've made Template:User QAIbox/auto that you can use like this:
{{User QAIbox/auto|years=Four}}
. You give the number of years as a capitalised word. It scales up to ten years, but stays atupright=0.65
for anything beyond nine years. It should still accept the other parameters as well, but you shouldn't need them for Precious Anniversary. If you get a chance to test it (maybe just preview it on some pages) and it's okay, perhaps you can add a little documentation to Template:User QAIbox/auto/doc, indicating how you'd like to see it used? --RexxS (talk) 20:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)- That's lovely, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- ... and used, and modified here to eight, because that's what it is for me know, thanks to a friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- RexxS, I was pleased all the time, but fail to find the right id (in the list) for pablo X, - seems to be something about capital or not. - Help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure what problem you've run into. If you remember, we only made the sizing to go from one to nine years, and let ten and more all be at the same large size. The template works fine with sixteen years:
{{User QAIbox/auto|years=Sixteen}}
, but its size is no bigger than for ten years. Capitals make no difference to the template. --RexxS (talk) 16:50, 24 August 2020 (UTC)- RexxS, I tried to describe. The id in the table, for a user's entry, has to be equal to basepagename in the template, or the link from the years doesn't go to the right position. I managed for all so far since we use the template but not for pablo_X (or Pablo_X), and don't know what my mistake is. It's eight years for him, - he was recommended to me by Br'er Rabbit for his eighth anniversary of editing. I remember as if it was yesterday. and liked all encounters with pablo, from that first on, sadly becoming more and more rare. Just look at his present talk page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, found it. Pablo X likes to style themselves as "pablo X". But the template uses {{BASEPAGENAME}} to pick up the name and make a link to the id in the table at Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious, and their BASEPAGENAME is actually "Pablo X". Because links to anchors are case-sensitive (and the id creates an anchor), the link generated (Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious#Pablo X) didn't have an id (anchor) in the table that matched. I've just changed the id in the table from "pablo_X" to "Pablo_X" (their real name). The anchor now matches the link and it works as intended. It looks like you need to make sure that values for id in the table match the actual BASEPAGENAME (which almost certainly begins with a capital). Cheers --RexxS (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for confirming that. I was sure I had tried that as well, but shouldn't be too sure. Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- Wow, I never knew that you were such a Machiavellian mastermind. You've been behind everything, haven't you? lol ~ HAL333 15:02, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for confirming that. I was sure I had tried that as well, but shouldn't be too sure. Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, found it. Pablo X likes to style themselves as "pablo X". But the template uses {{BASEPAGENAME}} to pick up the name and make a link to the id in the table at Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious, and their BASEPAGENAME is actually "Pablo X". Because links to anchors are case-sensitive (and the id creates an anchor), the link generated (Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious#Pablo X) didn't have an id (anchor) in the table that matched. I've just changed the id in the table from "pablo_X" to "Pablo_X" (their real name). The anchor now matches the link and it works as intended. It looks like you need to make sure that values for id in the table match the actual BASEPAGENAME (which almost certainly begins with a capital). Cheers --RexxS (talk) 20:28, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- RexxS, I tried to describe. The id in the table, for a user's entry, has to be equal to basepagename in the template, or the link from the years doesn't go to the right position. I managed for all so far since we use the template but not for pablo_X (or Pablo_X), and don't know what my mistake is. It's eight years for him, - he was recommended to me by Br'er Rabbit for his eighth anniversary of editing. I remember as if it was yesterday. and liked all encounters with pablo, from that first on, sadly becoming more and more rare. Just look at his present talk page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure what problem you've run into. If you remember, we only made the sizing to go from one to nine years, and let ten and more all be at the same large size. The template works fine with sixteen years:
- I've made Template:User QAIbox/auto that you can use like this:
DYK for Jessye Norman
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— Maile (talk) 00:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- I feel blessed, having heard her in person at Carnegie Hall. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Request
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Planning on taking the Honan Chapel article to PR in 14 days, and would be very appreciative if you could take a look, given how helpful you have been in the past. Have a strong connection to the building; lived (in a hovel) for two years literally 2 minutes walk from it as a student, and for the last 20 years the Gobnait window works for me in about a million ways. My best friend was married there in 2005. Anyway, if you get a chance. Ceoil (talk) 21:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ceoil, for an irresistible invitation. Once someone said to me "whatever works for you" and how true that is. The Opera house pictured was 2 minutes away from where I lived as a student, and I visited frequently. Back then, we sang St. Matthew Passion one year, and St. John Passion the other. This year, It would have been Matthew again, see above. What works for me is the song of defiance, also see above, which I sang even before, in Bach's incredible version. GA nom failed. Lyrics so suitable to these times: "weg mit allen Schätzen" - away with all treasures - and he composes weg, weg, weg, weg ... - but "ich steh hier und singe" - here I stand and sing. (I used it in defiance of arbcom already, as you probably know, and I was recently reminded.) - What keeps me busy is making articles decent of people who recently died - many. I haven't looked today yet. Then, I'll turn to that wonderful image, please be patient. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- I looked now - only looked, and it's another one with many pictures which make placement tricky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
(more in the archive)
DYK for Three Latin Motets
On 7 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Three Latin Motets, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Three Latin Motets, Charles Villiers Stanford's only church music not in English, was dedicated to Alan Gray, who succeeded him as organist at Trinity College, Cambridge, and the college's choir? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Three Latin Motets. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Three Latin Motets), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
--valereee (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- One of them is Beati quorum via integra est. - Difficult to translate, the tricky word being "integra" which is not easy in both English and German, - looking for an adjective related to integrity, for the way, which is the way of living, not just walking. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- We sang it last on 8 March. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- I found this about it: “I am always delighted when I hear sung the words from a psalm, “Beati quorum via integra est” – blessed are they whose way is “whole”. “Integra” is full of resonances: uncorrupt, integrated, wholesome, complete. Yet perhaps our splendour, if humanity has any, ultimately lies in the split in our nature, and how we handle it...“ [Chris Clarke, “Wholeness”, in Knowing, Doing, and Being: New Foundations for Consciousness Studies (2015), p. 157]. His Latin may be better than his wisdom, but if I were you I should use his translation. Moonraker (talk) 02:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, taken. Now I'd also be interested in the meaning in Hebrew. Yoninah? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- The Hebrew word, תְמִֽימֵי־דָ֑רֶךְ, can be literally read as "pure in the way." El_C 23:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- That sounds great, but would need some explanation for me. I like a positive word like "pure", compared to "blameless", "undefiled", and also to the frequent "perfect", because nobody is ... - The recordings sounds pure ;) - Yoninah, I think some of this should go to Psalm 119, even if we can't quote the whole long thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- The Hebrew word תְמִֽימֵי means as Moonraker says "wholesome", also "straightforward", "sincere". "Purehearted" would work. Yoninah (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- I had better add that the word “via” has most of the meanings of “way”, and in this psalm it plainly doesn’t mean something you stand on! So the word way might as well be kept. It’s a matter of which other word to use for the metaphor, and wholesome may be better than whole. Moonraker (talk) 19:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- The Hebrew word תְמִֽימֵי means as Moonraker says "wholesome", also "straightforward", "sincere". "Purehearted" would work. Yoninah (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- That sounds great, but would need some explanation for me. I like a positive word like "pure", compared to "blameless", "undefiled", and also to the frequent "perfect", because nobody is ... - The recordings sounds pure ;) - Yoninah, I think some of this should go to Psalm 119, even if we can't quote the whole long thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- The Hebrew word, תְמִֽימֵי־דָ֑רֶךְ, can be literally read as "pure in the way." El_C 23:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, taken. Now I'd also be interested in the meaning in Hebrew. Yoninah? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:51, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- I found this about it: “I am always delighted when I hear sung the words from a psalm, “Beati quorum via integra est” – blessed are they whose way is “whole”. “Integra” is full of resonances: uncorrupt, integrated, wholesome, complete. Yet perhaps our splendour, if humanity has any, ultimately lies in the split in our nature, and how we handle it...“ [Chris Clarke, “Wholeness”, in Knowing, Doing, and Being: New Foundations for Consciousness Studies (2015), p. 157]. His Latin may be better than his wisdom, but if I were you I should use his translation. Moonraker (talk) 02:30, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
On infoboxes
Gerda, are you not still limited to two comments per infobox discussion? (I'm thinking of here). I should not like to see you getting into any trouble. Best--Smerus (talk) 12:23, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- That provision has now expired (although I hope I don't need to remind you all that arguing about infoboxes is never going to end well for anyone). ‑ Iridescent 12:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Gerda's dream
- ... has expired in 2015 - I wonder when the new times begin when those boxes are treated nothing special, like tables and images, - it could be now, imagine ;) ... imagine how much editors' time could go to something more useful than debate if something meant to help readers (and could be opted out if not wanted) is permitted to help or not. - ps, and see my New year's intentions on top: I normally try to stick to 2 comments voluntarily, in ANY discussion, because it's more polite to other participants (and - selfish - it limits my waste of time). - Today's topic: Psalm 31, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- I think you are wise - I will try in future to limit myself to two comments as well. Hope you are keeping well - I am finding lockdown very tedious. Best--Smerus (talk) 15:20, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- I answered below. and gave it a Passion header. For the infoboxes, I began hoping in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
St John Passion 2020, in defiance
- Thank you ;) - Normally, we would have sung St Matthew Passion, instead, I sang along in the St John Passion from Bach's burial place in the Thomaskirche, and sometimes cried. Exceptional tenor who took ALL roles, with keyboard (switching harpsichord and organ) and percussion. They left out some arias. Great moments! (... such as "kreuzige" hissed to drums, and "es ist vollbracht" first as Jesus, then an octave lower than in the alto aria, and at its end high, as if uplifted ...) - link Carus bachfest --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- A header for it: Passion trotz(t) Pandemie, which is hard to translate. Suggestions welcome. Trotz (defiance) is a key word in Jesu, meine Freude (which I quoted after the arb case, to connect to the beginning). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell)
On 17 April 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the second of Henry Purcell's two settings of Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts was composed in an earlier style for the funeral of Queen Mary II of England? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts (Purcell)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
--valereee (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Finally. We sang it on 8 March, and put the secrets of our hearts into it, "spare us, Lord!" ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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Did you know ... that Henry Purcell
composed basically two settings of
Thou knowest, Lord, the secrets of our hearts,
a complex one early,
and a simple one for the burial of Queen Mary?
(in memory of B.W.)
Precious
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I'm back from a really long Wikibreak, and I am absolutely astounded at how you single-handedly continued the tradition of recognizing fellow Wikipedians for their great work at Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious for the past eight years. Absolutely stunning. I truly wish you could have met Phaedriel; you really inherited her spirit of fostering WikiLove! bibliomaniac15 23:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you, Bibliomaniac15, blushing to a colour like the strawberries below, and mostly: welcome back!! - You may have noticed (look for the Yogo above) that I try to prepare the award for a time after me, and you are most welcome - as some others do already, and everybody is invited to - to pass the award. We sometimes have two one day, and miss days, - doesn't matter ;) - It's good for me to do first thing in the morning: to look around for the many reasons to be thankful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you!
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Your untiring work to let people know that they have been seen and appreciated makes this place better. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 22:51, 2 May 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you, blushing. I took the liberty of enlarging the pic, because while I recognized it, it may have been too small for others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:58, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Good idea. I did think that the image was a bit small, but it was almost 1am when I posted it and I was too tired to think of doing that! In my opinion, the Mass in B Minor is one of the most wonderful pieces of music in the world (if you can call that huge work a "piece of music"!). I have been privileged to perform it twice with my choir, and I think our choir director is considering it for the spring of 2022 again. I am very much an amateur chorist, but am fortunate to be part of a rather good choir. I hope we'll get back to rehearsing and performing again in August, but who knows... --bonadea contributions talk 13:11, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- bonadea, I agree about it's magnificence. Sung unforgettably in a concert for Peace here, at the Wiesbadener Bachwochen, again unforgettably here the day before the Iraq war ultimatum (you should have heard us sing Dona nobis pacem!!!), and last in 2013, my perspective pictured in my work of love, here, promised. Dona nobis pacem, - same music as Gratias, very meaningful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Hans Herbert Jöris
On 15 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hans Herbert Jöris, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hans Herbert Jöris conducted the world premiere of Giselher Klebe's one-act opera Das Rendezvous, composed for the 125th anniversary of the Staatsoper Hannover? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Herbert Jöris. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hans Herbert Jöris), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Did you know that Hans Herbert Jöris conducted the first church concert I ever heard, with a Bach cantata? - 15 May is his birthday, and Monteverdi's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
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Might I offer you another kitten?
- yes but not left, she should look "in" ;) - List of operas by Claudio Monteverdi on my mind today, not passion hymns. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Well, me and the kitten can help with the vandalism, at the very least! El_C 10:03, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Great especially since I will be outside for most of the day. Another DYK going to come up shortly, - sometimes nothing for days, and then two on one ;) - thank you and the kitten for watchful eyes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Of course. It is my pleasure.
El_C 10:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Of course. It is my pleasure.
Your GA nomination of Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Doktor Johannes Faust
On 5 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Doktor Johannes Faust, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the opera Doktor Johannes Faust by Hermann Reutter, which was premiered by the Oper Frankfurt in 1936, is based on a puppet play? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Doktor Johannes Faust. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Doktor Johannes Faust), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
I wrote the article in memory of a friend, with whom I saw Faust II in Frankfurt. I should have written his article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Prächtig!† Encyclopædius 10:34, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Anna and Bernhard Blume
On 23 June 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Anna and Bernhard Blume, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:26, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Did you know ...
... that the art photographers Anna and Bernhard Blume
created Kitchen Frenzy and Pure Reason?
... that in 1968, the German artist Bazon Brock created
a sign in the style of a high voltage warning saying
that "death must be abolished ..."?
A birthday
Happy birthday? El_C 05:13, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- not mine today (but close) - want to add? - Today is the birthday of one with the river Rhine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- Cool, sounds primordial. El_C 05:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- What can you do in restricted times? I'm on my way to make the meetings real, in portions, a hike to that meadow, another around the rose town, a bike tour along the Rhine from Oppenheim and another to the Kreuzkapelle, a lunch overlooking the Rhine in Mainz, and church services happened already, more hikes and even organ concerts are planned, and for me, that's even better than seeing them all the same day as 2 decades ago. It helps to live in a blessed area where others come for vacation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- Cool, sounds primordial. El_C 05:42, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- (Belated apologies.) That sounds absolutely serene. Petting a chipmunk is also nice. Anyway, A very merry Unbirthday to you! To you! El_C 01:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Happy petting that happy chipmunk! - Thank you for the wishes, coming a good day, 20 years OTD that the Chanticleer sang at Unionskirche, Idstein, as part the Rheingau Musik Festival, and I was permitted to take photos during their rehearsal, - such wonderful and still vivid memories of walking around in a great building filled with unbelievable harmony. I wanted to make a box above but perhaps better to keep it down here, modestly. What I did was begin the years with their sounds, DYK? Look above for Chanticleer. - This year, a cellist - subject of my first article here, and I never wanted to write any other, only there was this red link ... - wants to play for me and my guests, as many birthdays before, which is more tricky to arrange. My favourite church (pictured above) is too small (36 people right now), the next holding 100 but too resonant (looking forward to an organ concert there on Saturday, which was planned for March), - perhaps I'll ask Unionskirche ... - Would you like to tell me a place and a song for my virtual sing-along? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- (Belated apologies.) That sounds absolutely serene. Petting a chipmunk is also nice. Anyway, A very merry Unbirthday to you! To you! El_C 01:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- I found the 2000 program, - first half sacred music by William Cornysh, Tomás Luis de Victoria, Vasily Polikarpovich Titov and John Taverner, and then music by Alberto Ginastera, Benitez Valencia, Astor Piazzolla, George Gershwin, Nacio Herb Brown, and spirituals. We were taken by the black voice of Eric Alatorre, who retired only last year, as I found out today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:45, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Meine engen Grenzen
On 12 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Meine engen Grenzen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that "Meine engen Grenzen" ("My narrow limits"), a new hymn with text by Eugen Eckert and a melody by Winfried Heurich, was recorded with a band? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Meine engen Grenzen. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Meine engen Grenzen), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
- Thank you, - I remember well, first article deleted within minutes, but then I received great help, first by Cmadler, then Michael Bednarek (see above), LilHelpa (see just above), Jerome Kohl, and all you others (in the order of appearance). Thank you! (If I think I missed you, let me know, right here. )-Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:20, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
- Thank you, more detail above ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
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Thank you for your many years as one of Wikipedia's shining stars. Your exemplary work is greatly appreciated! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:15, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, blushing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- Congratulation! Grimes2 (talk) 08:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, and even more for updating Leon Fleisher! A nice gift: Monteverdi's operas are a featured topic now!! We can't thank Brian enough for being such an inspiration, still! DYK, today is also his day of Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago ;) - Thank you, Aza, for the initiative to honour him. Giants2008, letting you know for the FLN above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Bon anniversaire.
I got a reminder.
So I hope you are well, and you can't say I forgot.
Take care.
Begoon 19:01, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- How lovely to see you "alive". 'cause missing the dead is bad enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar |
Thanks you for your constant positivity and friendliness. This platform needs more people like you. Hope you're having a great day! ~ HAL333 20:50, 11 August 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you, blushing a bit. Did you see 3RR above? I enjoy the softer tones ;) - DId you know that Erich Gruenberg was the lead violinist for Sgt. Pepper? I didn't , and keep learning? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- No I didn't - that's very interesting. I'm actually currently burning through the discography of another great British band: The Kinks. ~ HAL333 02:05, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Article Rescue Barnstar
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For rescuing Anton Jivaev, which I didn't think was notable, but you have proven otherwise. Thank you! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 01:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC) |
My third article was about a viola player, and someone thanked me for the DYK, and I remember ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: Congrats! 🤣 Camy (talk) 14:08, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Nun jauchzt dem Herren, alle Welt
The article Nun jauchzt dem Herren, alle Welt you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Nun jauchzt dem Herren, alle Welt for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aza24 -- Aza24 (talk) 22:41, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Rhythm Is It!
On 31 August 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rhythm Is It!, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Rhythm Is It! is a 2004 documentary film about 250 public school students trained by Royston Maldoom to dance Stravinsky's Le Sacre du printemps with the Berlin Philharmonic? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rhythm Is It!. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Rhythm Is It!), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
I remember well. Education of an energetic kind, for kids from many cultural backgrounds to work towards one goal, - a model for us all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
TFA Monteverdi Vespers 1 September
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Magnificat from the alto partbook of Monteverdi's Vespro della Beata Vergine kept in the Vatican Library |
This article is about the Vespers for the Blessed Virgin, or Vespers of 1610, by Claudio Monteverdi. His opera L'Orfeo, premiered in 1607, is the first opera still widely performed, and the Vespers are similarly exceptional. Monteverdi, aspiring to a better positiom than court musician in Mantua, demonstrated the broad range of his abilities, writing with a post in Rome in mind, but instead went to San Marco, Venice, a few years later. We don't know if the music was ever performed completely during his lifetime, nor if he actually expected it to be performed that way. Certainly musicologists and musicians have been fascinated from the 20th century on. Monteverdi set much more text than the usual 5 psalms + Magnificat, and required a 10-part choir in one psalm, and a rich orchestra. He combined the ever-present Gregorian chant with dramatic and virtuoso elements from the emerging opera, and offered a great diversity in musical styles and expression. Here is a short introduction, - in the background you hear an extreme performance, a recording which renders only the music Monteverdi wrote (and no additions to make it a proper liturgical vespers service), with 10 singers, and soloists for all instruments. I heard them in concert at the Rheingau Musik Festival which will be missed this year.
The article is the work of many over many years ... The main inspiration came from Brian Boulton who wrote the articles about the composer and his operas, and who generously left me the sources he had collected, the greatest honour I received in my ten years here. (from the FAC)
(1 September 2020 - 1 September was the day of the dedication in 1610, and of our concert in 2019)
Congrats
On your TFA. I have enjoyed reading it. Altamel (talk) 06:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Maybe one day you could do the same for Selva Morale e Spirituale? I think the Beatus Vir Primo is the best walking bass in musical history (fight me!). When we were rehearsing this, our conductor was ill one day so we had Robert Hollingworth dep for him. The band for the performance included the English Cornett and Sackbut Ensemble, and I am still friendly with some of them now, since my friend Catherine often books them for the concerts I do with her. Guy (help! - typo?) 07:52, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- I wrote Selva, but would rather take the Brahms Requiem to FA. Struggling with Mass in B minor, since 2012, and Jesu, meine Freude (which I find even more defiant than the Brahms) right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Guy, what do you think about the thread a bit above, named Silence (which was much longer, archived), or - similar topic on ARCA which I revived today because I believe we really need to call a war ended that ended long ago, only some overlooked that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Yesterday's horrible news
What a huge huge loss. I didn't even know him that well, but I am devastated. DBaK (talk) 08:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- So am I. - We talk about the memory of Jerome Kohl, with whom I had good conversations over ten years, - many topics, such as Schnebel (he said: "Sad to see another great music maker gone") and Stockhausen's Originale which I saw, and he said "Fantastic! What an experience it must have been! Thank you for telling me!". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Silence
While I agree with the sentiments of this post, I think it's worth quoting a bit of Wikipedia:Ignore all dramas : "Say something there only if you can say it well and politely, and it helps all concerned, causing no further harm." I have to say that for those who understand what you mean, you're telling them something they already know, and for those who don't (or don't want to), you're just going to antagonise them : "none so deaf as those who will not hear". Let those who want to tear each other's heads off do so and go about your business improving the encyclopedia; hopefully when the dust is settled around the charred remains of burned-out editors, some may think "you know what, we really should have looked at that picture of a kitten after all". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:12, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- You just caused further
harmsadness. I replied to a post on your talk, where I had mentioned silence, and (instead of silence) was questioned further. Silence please. I miss a great person. There's a picture of a kitten, - hope you like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
...
It crossed my mind that Licht - Jerome's great work - matches my topic of the year - vision - perfectly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
It crossed my mind further that perhaps I should not be silent about being just an observer of the infobox wars (or however they might be called). I was wounded, and had enough, deciding to step away in 2015. - Let's look at the current discussion. It could have been so short. Nominator presents reasoning per the MoS to uncollaps an infobox, asking for good reasons not to follow the MoS in the specific case. There are no good (= factual) reasons. So instead, we argue about not so good reasons, on several noticeboards, with rising heat. I try to be silent but sometimes the level of frustration is too high. It's a complete waste of everybody's time. The simple answer to a good proposal could be "Why not?" - The Autobahnkirche Siegerland is a place for silence. Thank you for watching, made nice stats. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Matthias Hölle
On 8 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Matthias Hölle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Matthias Hölle, a regular bass singer at the Bayreuth Festival, appeared in the world premieres of Stockhausen's Donnerstag aus Licht and Samstag aus Licht at La Scala in Milan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Matthias Hölle. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Matthias Hölle), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
This DYK was worded as a greeting to my friend Jerome Kohl who wrote all we know about Stockhausen and works. It became a tribute in memoriam, In Freundschaft. The piece was played at a concert dedicated to William Waterhouse. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
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a minute of silence |
a minute of silence
Did you know ... that Matthias Hölle,
a regular bass singer at the Bayreuth Festival,
appeared in the world premieres of
Stockhausen's Donnerstag aus Licht and Samstag aus Licht
at La Scala in Milan? (8 September 2020)
... that cellist, composer, and conductor Rudolf Hindemith
was the brother of the famous Paul Hindemith,
with whom he played in the Amar Quartet,
but later used pseudonyms to hide the relation? (7 September 2020)
DYK for Autobahnkirche Siegerland
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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, - one of my places ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- As you did ask for me to keep a look out, I fixed the fact tags. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:21, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- That's excellent, Ritchie, thank you! Biking Weikersheim to Wertheim, a first for me, also excellent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- I took almost the same pic, evening, someone leaning out the right window, - perhaps I'll upload it, - of course I believe that mine is better ;) - nice stats for the place of silence, 9.707. Thanks all for interest! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you
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Tod, wo ist dein Stachel, Hölle, wo ist dein Sieg? | For the very interesting article about Franz Leuninger --Maleschreiber (talk) 03:47, 12 September 2020 (UTC) |
Thank you, just what I needed. (Funeral 17 September, in Munich, where the memorial is.) Thank you also for excellent copy-editing. The article is the result of many users working together, - I hope they watch here. I couldn't believe - prompted by the death of his nephew - that he had no article. I love that music, sung in Hannover and Wiesbaden. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:00, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- I like the setting of this text in Brahms' Ein Deutsches Requiem. Guy (help! - typo?) 07:46, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- That's what we mean. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Moop Mama
On 15 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Moop Mama, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Moop Mama, a band of seven brass players, two drummers, and a rapper, began "guerilla concerts" in Munich's Englischer Garten in 2009? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Moop Mama. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Moop Mama), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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listen to Meermenschen (people from the sea), in rehearsal --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Solang es Menschen gibt auf Erden
On 21 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Solang es Menschen gibt auf Erden, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the rhythm of "Solang es Menschen gibt auf Erden", a Dutch hymn translated into German, has been compared to a tango? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Solang es Menschen gibt auf Erden. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Solang es Menschen gibt auf Erden), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Dutchness
ObMusic: I have subscribed for commissions from Gabriel Jackson and Peter Maxwell Davies. My dearest friend is a Dutchman, music director of the Westerkerk in Amsterdam. He taught me to love the music of Vic Nees, Ton de Leeuw and Daan Manneke (and of course, Jan Pieterszoon Sweelinck) alongside that of Bach, Biber and Brahms. Solang es Menschen gibt auf Erden delights me in every way, though it will probably never displace spem in alium (better than the Striggio 40-part mass) or Ein Deutsches Requiem, which I think is the greatest chorlied ever written - I would rate den alles fleisch above the Lacrymosa of Mozart and even rivalling Bach's Singet despite my notorious soft spot for that. Anecdote: I have a friend who had never been to a classical concert. I had a spare ticket for the BBC Symphony Orchestra and Chorus [a friend sang with them] for a concert conducted by Jiří Bělohlávek; the first half was Martinu (obvs) and the second half the Deutsches Requiem. It was a delight to see Kim literally on the edge of his seat, captivated and ultimately blown away by the sheer emotional intensity of the Brahms. Honestly, I prefer the four-hands piano reduction, but it was a privilege to introduce someone to the full experience. Denn alles Fleisch is 100% on my Desert Island Discs list. Real heart on sleeve stuff.
But so much for banter. We have an article on Chris Sherwin, whose edits I remember mostly for being tendentious and leading to a topic ban. This was created by a Wiki-friend. Why do we not have an article on the foremost scholar of Stockhausen? Surely Jerome passes WP:PROF handily? Guy (help! - typo?) 22:50, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Last first: please - everybody - help with Draft:Jerome Kohl!! - my friend with whom I struggled often, and won Maxwell Davies ;) - The Brahms Requiem was the piece our conductor chose for his last concert (last row, 2nd from right). - It was on my mind for last week's funeral, and helped. - I have a soft spot for the Trotz (defiance) in Jesu, meine Freude which was my only reaction to being misunderstood in the infobox case. I believe that - if there ever was a war - it was over long ago, just some still enjoy it - or what? Still curious about a thought about "Silence" where I pointed out that the question "Could we make some info that's in the article a tad easier to see for the disabled?" was answered in a load of comments on several boards as if the world would collapse if yes. And I'd say "why not?" (if I wasn't branded as an infobox warrior and remain silent, just pointing at article history, ten years of yes, five years of no. And one who said yes was blocked. And one who sayd "yawn" saw a reason to leave when common sense prevailed). But no one has time to write the article on Jerome, instead??? - Alois Ickstadt is 90 today! Great to see someone whose article you started still alive!! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, I actually have a signed score by Max with my son's name in the list of dedicatees. It's one of two pieces of new music I have subscribed to commission, the other was by Gabriel Jackson (who is hilarious fun to be with).
- I'm with you on the correct response to dem alten Drachen. My favourite recording is by the Hilliard Ensemble. Our previous conductor's swansong with us was the B Minor - he is now chorusmaster of the Hallé. Guy (help! - typo?) 07:49, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- The B minor was second-to-last for Erhard Egidi (who conducted Trotz the night before my grandfather's funeral), his last was Matthäuspassion. - Reminds me of an old promise. Dona nobis pacem. I sang that in the U.S. the day before the Irac war ultimatum. They didn't hear us, not the drummer nor the minute of silence for peace at the reception afterwards. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- I started St. Gallus, Flörsheim, where Ickstadt worked (B minor!), and Andreas Großmann still works, and where the organ is older than the Rococo church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Nerotalanlagen
On 26 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nerotalanlagen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Nerotalanlagen, a park along a creek in Wiesbaden, was built in the late 19th century to enhance the town's spa quality? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nerotalanlagen. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Nerotalanlagen), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- I took two of the images in 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:30, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Organ Symphony No. 3 (Vierne)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
... on the composer's 150th birthday, who has been celebrated at St. Bonifatius, Wiesbaden, including a performance of the Messe solennelle in 1987, and of the Troisième symphonie in 2020, thanks to Marlene Kempin and Gabriel Dessauer
Some recognition
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Thanks for all the work you have done on music articles! Amitchell125 (talk) 21:55, 8 October 2020 (UTC) |
- music in my ears ;) - thank you, enjoying the birthday celebrations for a man with a tough life and the death he wanted - listen to a friend playing his music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Breitkopf
I just received a vocal score of BWV 8 from Breitkopf & Härtel sent from Wiesbaden (posted by FedEx). If I remember, that's your home town? It was very efficient in Germany but came by a very circuitous once in England. Mathsci (talk) 09:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. It was my hometown for a while (such as when singing the Vierne mentioned above), and I still live close enough to keep singing in that choir, - just not this year, and we'll see. I heard the two Vierne organ pieces mentioned above, the symphony live in 2020, and the Carillon live before (as a frequent postlude), and now on YouTube. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne
The article Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Amitchell125 -- Amitchell125 (talk) 18:02, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Anna Tifu
On 11 October 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anna Tifu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Anna Tifu, a violinist from Cagliari, Sardinia, who won the 2007 George Enescu International Competition, plays a 1716 Stradivarius? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anna Tifu. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Anna Tifu), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
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- Thank you, happy to have heard her, back to listening to a symphony concert, on 3 October, with the orchestra that made Der Ring in Minden possible. She played a Bach encore! (... in the second concert of the orchestra's second series of the season, while in was Eugène Ysaÿe the first , and George Enescu the third. Listen to the first movement in 2012, the article has a Ravel Tzigane YT, and there's one out with her at age 8. Thank you for the image, GRuban! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
DYK for St. Gallus, Flörsheim
On 14 October 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St. Gallus, Flörsheim, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the organ of St. Gallus in Flörsheim was built before the church? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St. Gallus, Flörsheim. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, St. Gallus, Flörsheim), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Today is the birthday of a friend whom I met in 1983, organist (!) and choral conductor, and the first piece was Suscepit Israel, about mercy, and the oboe plays the Gregorian Magnificat to three upper voices (would have been boys in Bach's time), - one of the greatest inventions, ever. - Cutting it short, she became member of the family. If interested in organ music, don't miss the video in the St. Gallus article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:59, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
You're very clever
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Translation | The Hellish Infobox |
Librettist | Jane Doe |
Language | Italian |
Premiere | 23 December 2005 Wikipedia |
Website | Infobox wars |
I must say you're very clever to be able to align the pictures nicely without Br'er Rabbit or RexxS helping. I always make futile attempts and then end up asking RexxS. Very envious of your skills! Little Stupid talk, 09:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC).
- PS, yikes, I see a picture of Darwinbish on this page. Hope she hasn't been bothering you! Little Stupid talk, 09:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC).
- Gerda has an adequate supply of apples, so fret ye not. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- (ec) Darwinbish has
stolengrabbed some apples, but I have a large supply. All my technical cleverness comes from the two you mentioned, and Alakzi who showed me how to have pics in one line as here. Thanks to them as long as I can remember, - one banned, one ill, one given up! Look above, RexxS made me a neat template to remember Precious by just changing the number of years celebrated, imagine! (If I'd organise the dates, that might even run without me.) Feel free to use the QAIbox, modeled after the popcorn Br'er gave me as a farewell gift, eighth anniversary now as he mentioned then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 14 October 2020 (UTC)- I would also say that although good editors leave the project, if you look around carefully, you'll see new editors coming up through the ranks and starting to contribute more, like zmbro. Let's show our appreciation for those as well. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, I like hints for Precious. (I also like others to pass Precious, - no need to wait for me.) I think I do my share of appreciating newcomers, greeting red links on my watchlist, and passing Precious for a first DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:21, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- I stole my cutest infobox opera from the 2013 arb workshop pages, image by Br'er, title idea by Voceditenore who also was instrumental in creating the template with Andy, facts somewhat updated. I think we just reached kind of peace there, - imagine (that I was invited to restore "my" infoboxes). All operas by Rossini have an infobox now, not only his latest. Much room for improvements: more appropriate images, for example, and many composers not yet improved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- ps: 1201 transclusions of the template as of now, but I guess 1 is what you see here ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:45, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- I thought the image on the right was the result of putting the wrong sort of dash in an FA candidate. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:01, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Highly suitable. Jen probably thinks the same about ref details. Thanks for helping her with the flowcharts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- I thought the image on the right was the result of putting the wrong sort of dash in an FA candidate. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:01, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- I would also say that although good editors leave the project, if you look around carefully, you'll see new editors coming up through the ranks and starting to contribute more, like zmbro. Let's show our appreciation for those as well. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Just for being you and everything you do here. Danke für alles.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
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Buttinsky) Can I second and third this? Vielen Dank meine freund - for being who you are that inspires us all to be better than we are. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:12, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Such a cutie! Thank you, also for not having to miss you, as some mentioned in the thread above, and many not mentioned. Br'er didn't like left pics, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Jon Gibson (minimalist musician)
On 14 October 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Jon Gibson (minimalist musician), which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:37, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Bach composition
Template:Infobox Bach composition has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox musical composition. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Gonnym (talk) 13:44, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
- explained history there - those were times of trying something new! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Eugen Szenkar
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Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Fitting to remember this persona non grata on the day I remember that eight years ago, this community banned my friend whose name was not Jack: creative, productive, helpful, witty, charming, a great photographer, a free spirit, miraculous, who said "wikis are not about authoritah they are about collaborations and merit." in September 2012. (You read that in my edit notice, didn't you?) I debated with myself then if I could still be a member of such community.
- Agnus Dei - mourning becomes ... (11 April 2012)
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[Breathing out a light spray of stroopwafel crumbs as she speaks :] Darwinbish has stolen your stroopwafels! The stroopwafels made her happy and she'd like to give you a great big hug for leaving them where she could reach them. Spread the WikiLove by giving her some more baked goods, unless you want her boys to pay you a visit! darwinbish BITE 12:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC).
Done. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 13:20, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Dona nobis pacem - a promise (16 October 2012)
Here I am, still singing in defiance. Darwinbish has stolen the apples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 16 October 2020 (UTC)