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The contentious topic restriction was imposed (or last renewed) more than a year ago and:
- the restriction was imposed by a single administrator, or
- the restriction was an indefinite block.

A formal appeal is successful only if one of the following agrees with revoking or changing the contentious topic restriction:

a clear consensus of uninvolved administrators at AE,
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Any administrator who revokes or changes a contentious topic restriction out of process (i.e. without the above conditions being met) may, at the discretion of the Arbitration Committee, be desysopped.

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On community review

Uninvolved administrators at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard ("AE") and uninvolved editors at the administrators' noticeboard ("AN") should revoke or modify a contentious topic restriction on appeal if:

the action was inconsistent with the contentious topics procedure or applicable policy (i.e. the action was out of process),
the action was not reasonably necessary to prevent damage or disruption when first imposed, or
the action is no longer reasonably necessary to prevent damage or disruption.

On Arbitration Committee review

Arbitrators hearing an appeal at a request for amendment ("ARCA") will generally overturn a contentious topic restriction only if:

the action was inconsistent with the contentious topics procedure or applicable policy (i.e. the action was out of process),
the action represents an unreasonable exercise of administrative enforcement discretion, or
compelling circumstances warrant the full Committee's action.

^ The administrator may indicate consent at any time before, during, or after imposition of the restriction.
^ This criterion does not apply if the original action was imposed as a result of rough consensus at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, as there would be no single enforcing administrator.

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ask the enforcing administrator to reconsider their original decision;
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submit a request for amendment at the amendment requests page ("ARCA"). If the editor is blocked, the appeal may be made by email through Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee (or, if email access is revoked, to arbcom-enwikimedia.org).

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No administrator may modify or remove a sanction placed by another administrator without:

the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or
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Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped.

Nothing in this section prevents an administrator from replacing an existing sanction issued by another administrator with a new sanction if fresh misconduct has taken place after the existing sanction was applied.

Administrators are free to modify sanctions placed by former administrators – that is, editors who do not have the administrator permission enabled (due to a temporary or permanent relinquishment or desysop) – without regard to the requirements of this section. If an administrator modifies a sanction placed by a former administrator, the administrator who made the modification becomes the "enforcing administrator". If a former administrator regains the tools, the provisions of this section again apply to their unmodified enforcement actions.

Important notes:

For a request to succeed, either

(i) the clear and substantial consensus of (a) uninvolved administrators at AE or (b) uninvolved editors at AN or

(ii) a passing motion of arbitrators at ARCA

is required. If consensus at AE or AN is unclear, the status quo prevails.

While asking the enforcing administrator and seeking reviews at AN or AE are not mandatory prior to seeking a decision from the committee, once the committee has reviewed a request, further substantive review at any forum is barred. The sole exception is editors under an active sanction who may still request an easing or removal of the sanction on the grounds that said sanction is no longer needed, but such requests may only be made once every six months, or whatever longer period the committee may specify.
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All actions designated as arbitration enforcement actions, including those alleged to be out of process or against existing policy, must first be appealed following arbitration enforcement procedures to establish if such enforcement is inappropriate before the action may be reversed or formally discussed at another venue.

Information for administrators processing requests

Thank you for participating in this area. AE works best if there are a variety of admins bringing their expertise to each case. There is no expectation to comment on every case, and the Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) thanks all admins for whatever time they can give.

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Raghavendrax

Raghavendrax topic banned indefinitely from the IPA topic area. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

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Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

Request concerning Raghavendrax

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Newslinger (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 09:49, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Raghavendrax (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan#Standard discretionary sanctions :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

09:03, 6 June 2020: Replaced reliably sourced content in the Citizenship Amendment Act protests article with unverifiable content. The edit replaced "The amendment has been widely criticised as discriminating on the basis of religion, particularity for excluding Muslims" with "The amendment act has been widely misinterpreted as discriminating on the basis of religion, particularity for excluding Muslims", and "The bill has raised concerns among the Indian Muslim as well as poor Indians as they might be rendered stateless that could lead them to detention" with "The bill has raised misunderstandings among the Indian Muslim as they might be rendered stateless that could lead them to detention" in the lead section. The cited sources are consistent with the removed language, and are inconsistent with the added language.
09:06, 6 June 2020: Removed 17,093 net characters from the OpIndia article, replacing the removed content with "OpIndia is widely criticized by Indian left-wing for exposing the fake news spreaded by Indian left-wing." The edit also changed the description of Swarajya from "right-wing" to "popular", deleting the citations attached to the removed word.
09:09, 6 June 2020: Identical to #2, undoing Materialscientist's reversion (Special:Diff/961040282) of the previous edit.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

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Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Raghavendrax has repeatedly violated the verifiability policy in the area of Indian politics.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Special:Diff/961044947

Discussion concerning Raghavendrax

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Statement by Raghavendrax

Statement by (username)

Statement by Symmachus Auxiliarus

Comment This seems pretty clear cut. Endorse T-BAN. Symmachus Auxiliarus (talk)|

Result concerning Raghavendrax

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A topic ban from the IPA topic area is probably in order. El_C 09:58, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed with El_C, and unless anyone shortly objects, will do so. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cement4802

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Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator.

Request concerning Cement4802

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: FDW777 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:08, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Cement4802 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2#Discretionary sanctions (1932 cutoff) :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

05:27, 1 June 2020 First change of "left-wing" to "far-left"
06:10, 1 June 2020 Revert from "left-wing" to "far-left"
22:29, 2 June 2020 Revert from "left-wing" to "far-left"
15:07, 6 June 2020 Revert from "left-wing" to "far-left"
15:46, 6 June 2020 Revert from "left-wing" to "far-left", and 1RR breach being 29 minutes after the previous revert

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

Notified here by User:Doug Weller

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

There only engagement on the talk page was at 11:08, 1 June 2020 stating Nfitz Please don't bring your political views into Wikipedia. Sentiments like yours are usually the problem and source of conflict itself. And this has nothing to do with Donald Trump regardless. Numerous reliable sources describe ANTIFA as being far left. This was obviously prior to diffs #3-5.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Notified

Discussion concerning Cement4802

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Statement by Cement4802

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Cement4802

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Clear cut 1RR violation. The additional edit warring as well as the failure to communicate, leads me to believe that sanctions will be necessary. El_C 16:11, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The diffs show two 1RR violations and edit warring across the past week. The correct course of action would have been to participate in the discussions on Talk:Antifa (United States), and obtain consensus before making the change. — Newslinger talk 06:00, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Aeonx

Appeal was declined --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:17, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found here. According to the procedures, a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved administrators" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

Appealing user: Aeonx (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Sanction being appealed: Two week block (see log)

Administrator imposing the sanction: TonyBallioni (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Notification of that administrator: I copied this over myself when they appealed. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:37, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Aeonx

It was wrong to block me because it was done under inaccurate and false pretext, the justification used for my block was based on a clear misinterpretration of my the comment I made. The evidence of which is clearly available on my talkpage. I understand the blocking Administrators concern, and I have already openly admitted and accepted that the edit summary I made on the OANN page was disgraceful. I made the comment out of frustration, whereby I have been trying to boldly identifying issues and then take steps to improve the NPOV aspects of the OANN article and have instead simply had my edits (made in accordance with guidelines) reverts; followed my having warnings on my talkpage. That is the frustration I have which has lead to my less-than-graceful comments. However, I still assert the core reason for the block being unwarranted as a clear misinterpretation of my comments, which were generic in nature describing that POV-pushing is "troll-like conduct"; the comments I made in the two reference locations given in the block, were not in any way targeted at any particular editor.

Statement by TonyBallioni

So, the statement they are defending is not actually why I blocked. I had blocked on these diffs, which are clear battleground issues, with personal attacks and incivility thrown in the mix: [1], [2], [3] (note edit summary). These were all today, but there is also a history of personal attacks in the topic area: [4] (note content and edit summary), [5] (Aspersions and conspiracy theories about other editors), [6]. They had previously been warned for similar behaviour by Doug Weller in April here. I decided that in totality, the behaviour merited a block, and went with two weeks even though it was a first time offense, because looking at their editing from May, they mainly edit on the weekends lately, so a 24 hour block wouldn't do much and a 1 week would would be about the same, and you'd risk someone coming straight back to the same fight on the day they ordinarily edit.

After I blocked, I noticed that Bishonen had warned them over these edits, which is not something I had seen when looking through the block history. I pinged Bish to ask her thoughts, and mentioned that I wasn't particularly impressed by this comment in response to it, where he says that people he's fighting with on the talk page are exhibiting troll-like behaviour, which while not focused on any particular editor, in this topic area is a way of making a personal attack without saying names. It wasn't why I blocked, but it also made me not want to unblock quickly. As I said to Bish after I noticed that she had warned, I would be fine unblocking if she prefers to let the warning stand, but I also think there is enough conduct here for a block, especially as there has been recent history of this behaviour in the topic area, and they had previously been warned within the last two months. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Objective3000

Content disputes are not admin abuse.
Disagreement does not mean everyone else is wrong.
We are not here to WP:RGW.
POV-pushing is not a one-way street.
WP:5P4 appears to have been downgraded.
Poking in on weekends to snipe at other editors is not useful.

AP TBan the editor until there is some response that they truly realize the ongoing issues. (I'm sure I'm involved with this editor.) O3000 (talk) 00:40, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (involved editor 2)

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Aeonx

We don't allow shared accounts. Can some admin do something about this? Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:56, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Result of the appeal by Aeonx

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No, decline. Even after the warning for the behavior at issue in this block, and after the block, this editor has continued conduct that is inconsistent with the editing environment and that demonstrates that they do not understand why they have been blocked. It is not an acceptable defense to substitute "user:x is a [personal attack]" with "user:x has been engaging in [personal attack]-like conduct"; that would be a loophole big enough to drive a truck through. Comments like If you READ CAREFULLY, you will see I did NOT call editors "troll-like", I wrote "troll-like" conduct". There is a big difference. I'm not attacking editors. I'm voicing an opinion as to how I, PERSONALLY, view their conduct; and I'm doing so on MY TALKPAGE. This is the sort of typical MALADMINISTRATION I am concerned about growing within Wikipedia. I will appeal this Block and All I get is more and more baseless threats, built around a misconception that I'm the person in the wrong because I'm overtly standing up against crappy administration and bullying. I am here to build a decent encyclopedia, not one built around abuse, maladministration and bias articles. aren't helping their cause either and don't at all indicate that they won't return to the exact same behavior right after the block; in this light, a two week block is pretty lenient. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 18:56, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- A brief review of the earlier talk page posts is equally unimpressive. In response to a DS alert, the user writes: Thanks for posting, Doug Weller. Now I suggest you go read WP:UNINVOLVED. In characterizing this remark, the user writes: The only thing I said in regard to this standard alert was (1)A Thankyou, and (2)a request for you to review a particular relevant section of WP policy; the reason for which is that I was genuinely concerned based observations I had made from your past conduct that this *may* have been overlooked. Is it wrong for me to thankyou for posting on my talk page and to a make a suggestion?! Not a particularly impressive conversation. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 19:09, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I feel dirty posting here. But please be aware that this is a shared account. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Decline after reading the above comments. The situation clearly justifies a two-week block. And as noted by User:L235, their user page states that their account is now being operated by two people. ("This account is used by two Freelance Journalists (SD and TR), currently reporting on COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom"). See WP:NOSHARING. EdJohnston (talk) 19:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Decline. The documentation provided display recent misconduct and aggression which raises pressing concerns. That coupled with a seeming inability to understand the reasons for the block, leads me to decline the appeal. El_C 20:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Decline appeal. The block was an appropriate response to the misconduct, and the editor's behavior since then gives me no assurance that it is no longer necessary. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:40, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Azuredivay

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Request concerning Azuredivay

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 04:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Azuredivay (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan#Standard discretionary sanctions :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

4 June 2020 very many things wrong with this diff. Adds 13kb (!) of content without an edit summary, and with no explanation on the talk page. Includes content about "separatist campaign", much of which the sources do not directly connect to Pakistani nationalism. This is particularly true about the sentences discussing Direct Action Day. The same edit adds a long quotation about Pakistan from M. S. Golwalkar, a leader of the Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh. Golwalkar isn't a historian or political scientist, and his views constitute egregious undue weight. In short, edit violates WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, and basic behavioral norms. EDITED: Azuredivay has pointed out that the quote already existed, for which I apologize; the software highlights it when I view that diff the same way new content is highlighted. That doesn't address the rest of the problems with that diff, though.
4 June 2020 same article as above; removes tags without explanation; adds content without a source.
23 May 2020 changes "Pakistani Qawwal" to "Indian Qawwal" without a source and without an edit summary.
4 June 2020 Accuses another user of "revisionism"; refuses to explain himself further.
14 May 2020; adds redundant links to an article; after they are removed, Azuredivay was warned, to which he responded quite dismissively.
Similarly, after edit-warring over the primary name of the article at Adam's Bridge (see this, and the previous revisions), responds in this manner to a warning on his talk page.

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any: No previous sanctions.

If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts)

Given an alert about discretionary sanctions by Newslinger on 15 March 2020.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint: I find it quite strange that Azuredivay's command of English is far superior in the first two diffs linked above, than it is in discussions. Vanamonde (Talk) 04:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC) Addendum; two additional concerning incidents were brought to my attention via email by an editor who did not wish to get involved at AE; they further substantiate the communication issues I highlighted above. @El C: Would you mind taking a look at this? It's possible that all that's necessary is for someone uninvolved to tell Azuredivay to communicate appropriately, but this is languishing without attention. Vanamonde (Talk) 01:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested: notified.

Discussion concerning Azuredivay

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Statement by Azuredivay

Diff #1 has been misrepresented. Golwalkar's quote had been added by Arslan-San[7] not me. I just combined it with the previous para and you are free to remove it if you want. The same editor also added a large amount regarding how "Sindh" was different from the rest of India, which is not true. All of the citations I added to article are reliable and were taken from other places of Wikipedia like Direct Action Day article itself. What I added actually traces the origins of Pakistani nationalism, as Muslim nationalism that began in British India among the elite class of Muslims of UP and Bihar. The content also cited the Lahore Resolution that called for a separate state in subcontinent for Indian Muslims. Mentioning Direct Action Day is obviously important because it is after that event that communal riots spread to other parts of the subcontinent resulting in partition and the realization of the Pakistani state.

Diff #2: Per WP:ES, I provided edit summary where it was needed. For the rest it is very obvious that I am only adding the content.

Diff #3: Vanamonde93 has apparently ignored in this edit that I removed puffery, unsourced and unreliably sourced content. There was no Pakistan before 1947 so how a person who was born in 1911 could be called "Pakistani"? I planned to resolve this content dispute on talk page for later.

Diff #4 has been also misrepresented because I engaged as much as it was needed and I cited a discussion (see Talk:Channar_revolt#Scholarly sources for tax?) which mentioned the word "revisionism" three times and concluded that those views were revisionist in nature. Azuredivay (talk) 06:38, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Diff #5 happened nearly a month ago and has been poorly interpreted here since my final position on the matter was opposite as I had already modified my response and acknowledged the message appropriately.[8]

Diff #6 happened 2 months ago and at that time I wasn't aware of MOS:TITLE but after this I took time to read it and never added a non-title as main name. Azuredivay (talk) 02:39, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (other involved editor)

Result concerning Azuredivay

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

Since I was pinged (but somehow didn't get an alert for it — sorry), I would agree with Vanamonde93 that improvement is necessary. If Azuredivay were to take these concerns on board, that would spare them from suffering any sanctions. In that case, a warning to do better would be recommended. El_C 10:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Zarcademan123456

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Request concerning Zarcademan123456

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Huldra (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 22:21, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Zarcademan123456 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

01:56, 7 June 2020 Add stuff and remove Palmer-ref at Kafr Saba
22:08, 7 June 2020 Re-add same stuff and remove Palmer-ref at Kafr Saba

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

blocked 22 December 2019 with an expiration time of 72 hours (account creation blocked) (Disruptive editing)
blocked 28 December 2019 with an expiration time of 2 weeks (account creation blocked) (Disruptive editing)
9 March 2020: "Zarcademan123456 is cautioned against making mass changes when these involve contested edits. Similar problems are likely to be met with sanctions next time."

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Alerted, 28 August 2019

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Clear violation of 1RR on article under WP:A/I/PIA-sanctions, Huldra (talk) 22:21, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Newslinger; no I didn't break the rules: my first rv was of an IP, (who shouldn't have edited the article in the first place), hence it doesn't count. Huldra (talk) 06:16, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]; Lol, I am not “out to get" Zarcademan123456, (as he claims); but as anyone can see: he is following me around. His first ever edit to Kafr Saba was 2-3 hours after I had edited it, (and the edit removed a reference, and introduced unsourced material), his first ever edit at Al-Khisas as also hours after I had edited, (just to mention a couple the last days). I am accustomed to "shadows" following me around, but I do expect them to follow the rules.; And I am delighted to hear that Zarcademan123456 has gotten his job back; hopefully he will in the future spend his time more constructively than his very latest edit: undoing my edit and re-inserting unsourced material, Huldra (talk) 20:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Notified Huldra (talk) 22:23, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion concerning Zarcademan123456

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Statement by Zarcademan123456

I’ve kinda stopped using wiki as intently as in past, but if I broke rules comes from lack of understanding. 1R means 24 hours yes?... With all due respect to @Huldra, I do feel as if he/she is “out to get me” a little bit...again, as I said in previous wiki arbia discussion, if I violate, its out of ignorance, not maliciousness. Not that incompetence shouldn’t be punished, but as a volunteer website, mistakes, IMO, should be dealt with gently, not with heavy hand (violations). Brief aside, luckily I got my job back so I’ll be on wiki less so this will be moot anyways. Good day y’all

Statement by Zero0000

To editor Newslinger: Kafr Saba is an article covered by ARBPIA and the first diff of Huldra that you indicate was the revert of an IP. Such edits are exempt from the 1RR restriction, see WP:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel_articles#ARBPIA_General_Sanctions. So it is not correct that Huldra broke 1RR and you should withdraw that charge. Zero^talk 06:21, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (selfstudier)

Although no action was taken (only 3 reverts, not 4) this recent complaint also included 1R (Is-Pal) violations.

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Zarcademan123456

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

The page history shows that ~~both Huldra (23:20, 6 June 2020; 20:21, 7 June 2020) and~~ Zarcademan123456 (01:56, 7 June 2020; 22:08, 7 June 2020) violated the 1RR restriction on the Kafr Saba article. — Newslinger talk 05:40, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the corrections, Huldra and Zero0000. I'm sorry for the mistake, and I've revised my comment. — Newslinger talk 06:30, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
While Zarcademan123456 was given the recommendation to self-revert, in fairness, they seem to have simply not been around to do so. That does not negate from 1RR having been contravened (the responsibility to be cognizant of that is on them) — but I would still recommend a (logged) warning rather than sanctions. But with the awareness that sanctions for a future violation would be accordingly more severe. El_C 10:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Storritospeaks

Editor has been blocked indefinitely as a normal admin sanction by Bishonen. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 16:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Request concerning Storritospeaks

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Newslinger (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:02, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Storritospeaks (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan#Standard discretionary sanctions :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

10:24, 8 June 2020: Removal of 8,957 net characters from the Swarajya (magazine) article with no edit summary, undoing HaeB's reversion of Storritospeaks's previous identical edit. The edit removes the article's "Controversy" section and adds "THIS PAGE IS VANDALISED OFTEN, BY LEFT/RIGHT LEANING INDIVIDUALS." as the first unnamed parameter (reason) of the {{pp-protected}} template.
10:25, 8 June 2020: Removal of 15,565 net characters from the OpIndia article with no edit summary beyond the default "Undid revision 961393460 by Materialscientist (talk)", reverting Materialscientist's reversion of Storritospeaks's previous identical edit. The edit removes the article's "Content" section and part of the article's "Reception" section. It also removes "right-wing" from the article's description of OpIndia and Swarajya, along with the attached citations.
10:30, 8 June 2020: Removal of 716 characters from the "Controversies" section of the NDTV India article, including citations of Reuters and NDTV, with the edit summary "Deleted irrelevant info, for which providing citations is impossible."
10:32, 8 June 2020: Identical to #3, undoing Materialscientist's reversion of the previous edit.
10:37, 8 June 2020: Edit on User talk:Materialscientist, replacing Udaisingh01's previous comment with Storritospeaks's own comment. The comment includes the sentences "Kindly refrain from calling my editing disruptive. At the most, it may be called 'un-citied'." and "You revert my edits quite frequently, and generally leave me without any option to respond. This is a clear mistake on your part."

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

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Additional comments by editor filing complaint

Considering the persistent disruption on the OpIndia article (see also #Raghavendrax, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive265 § Varun2048, and Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive263 § Pectore), likely motivated by OpIndia representatives' ongoing criticism of specific Wikipedia editors on their website and on social media, the semi-protection page restriction on the article might not be enough.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Special:Diff/961458142

Discussion concerning Storritospeaks

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Statement by Storritospeaks

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Storritospeaks

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You know, Newslinger, I thought I had indeffed this user earlier today for persistent disruptive editing, but I realize now that RL interrupted me in the act. I'll do it now. User indefinitely blocked as a regular admin action. Bishonen | tålk 16:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Siddsg

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Request concerning Siddsg

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Tayi Arajakate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 22:06, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Siddsg (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan#Standard discretionary sanctions :

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Violation of WP:OR & WP:NPOV as explained in Special:Diff/961470988 and edit warring for the same on Mallapuram district.

07:33, 4 June 2020 First Addition
23:39, 4 June 2020 Revertion to the same
08:10, 5 June 2020 Revertion to the same
08:28, 5 June 2020 Revertion to the same
19:17, 5 June 2020 Revertion to the same
23:34, 5 June 2020 Revertion to the same

They have been warned on two other occasions for adding original research on Persecution of Hindus and 2020 Delhi riots on 00:39, 11 March 2020 and 19:54, 28 May 2020 respectively.

Similar behavior as shown above is displayed in section for India, Pakistan and Bangladesh on the page for Persecution of Christians.

08:27, 9 March 2020 Addition of an incident with no mention of persecution in the sources. The addition was reverted in 15:00, 9 March 2020 with an appropriate edit summary.
16:00, 9 March 2020 Re-adding of the same content after being reverted with no manual edit summary.
16:46, 9 March 2020 Reports the one who had reverted them to AIV, no other attempt at communication.
22:23, 9 March 2020 Editor is warned for the above displayed behavior.

Previously they have also created a copyright violation page Kodava cuisine (G12 template on 20:00, 6 March 2020), then went on to remove the speedy deletion template (warning message on 20:09, 6 March 2020) and added copyright violations to the page of Exodus of Kashmiri Hindus (warning message on 20:57, 6 March 2020).

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

No previous sanctions

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Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in Special:Diff/944737144.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

The date and time are in Indian Standard Time, sorry for any inconvenience.

@Siddsg: That response strikes me as utterly inadequate. I've already provided the diff which explains how it is a violation of WP:OR, behavior for which you had already been warned on multiple occasions well after the notice as well and still fail to acknowledge the issue. Materialscientist (talk · contribs) and Zvikorn (talk · contribs) likely restored the content because it outwardly appeared to be sourced with inline citations (due to the usage of what's essentially on web fictitious references. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 14:22, 9 June 2020 (UTC)). Their restoration isn't evidence of it being not original research or not pov pushing and neither did they edit war over it unlike you, which you fail to acknowledge as well. I don't want to bloat this page therefore I will only highlight one particularly egregious instance of original research. The first line of the addition states, Malappuram has had a history of religious extremism which first came to the fore during the Mappila riots that consisted of various incidents of religious persecution of Hindus from the late 19th century to early 20th century. While the cited source is as follows:[reply]

Communal Riots in Post-independence India by Asgharati Engineer

A special mention may be made of the Moplah riots of 1921 which occurred in the Malabar region, a part of Kerala. There had been sporadic outbreaks of Moplah violence since 1836. These involved attacks by Moplahs on Hindu landlords and sometimes on English authorities. The outbreaks reflect the existence of both agrarian exploitation and rural poverty. The Namboodiri Brahmans and Nairs held superior tenurial rights whereas land was cultivated by the Moplahs. Throughout the period between 1836 and 1921 whenever the Namboodiri and Nair landlords tried to evict their tenants, violence was provoked. The Moplahs were bitterly anti-Hindu, bitterly anti-British, bitter against the world that gave them only misery. During the later part of the Khilafat movement, the Moplahs became convincted that the rule of the Khalifa had been established in India and they wreaked violence on the Hindu landlords and their men. They also tried to convert many of them to Islam. The army had to be sent for and it took the British Government more than 6 months to control insurrection. Of the Moplah rebels, 2266 were killed in action, 1615 were wounded, 5688 were captured and 38,256 surrended. Moplah prisoners were court-martialled and shot or executed (Smith 1946). The agrarian aspect of this violence was unfortunately lost sight of the leaders of that time including Gandhi and in future relations between the Congress and the Muslim League, the hangover of the Moplah riots continued to weigh on the minds of both parties.

How one can possibly summarise the source in the form of your added line is beyond me. While this isn't a WP:COI issue but "inappropriate and misleading" is quite a logical if not a forgiving summary for removing the addition. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 09:39, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Special:Diff/961510882

Discussion concerning Siddsg

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Statement by Siddsg

@El C: I was still learning some of the core policies when I was editing in March 2020. Most of the diffs from "March" came after this notice. How they should be relevant makes no sense to me since I have learned from them and moved on from those matters.

As for the diffs from June, I would really like to know how this edit is violation WP:OR because the information has been completely supported by the sources in question. Similarly, my edits were reinstated by other established users,[9][10] while those who were removing my edits were just IPs and one user who referred these edits "WP:COI Extremism is not related with demographics", "Inappropriate and misleading content in a geography-related article with political intentions", "Prevented Vandalism and Conflict of Interest". I think this matter should be better solved at the talk page, and not this noticeboard. Siddsg (talk) 02:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: I agree, but I was saying that my edits have merit since "other established users" restored my edits while there were "IPs and one user" who weren't logically disputing the content, this is why I had to revert them. Siddsg (talk) 05:57, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your consideration. I have been working to improve my editing and will continue improving it further. Siddsg (talk) 06:08, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Siddsg

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

A topic ban from the IPA topic area is probably in order. El_C 22:08, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Siddsg, what do you mean "just IPs" — they have no lesser standing as editors than you just because they haven't registered an account... El_C 05:13, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Siddsg, okay, point taken. I would perhaps be willing to amend my recommendation to a warning. But improvements would be expected. El_C 06:01, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly requesting admins to rescind my ARBPIA topic ban

Follow the instructions at the top of this page if you want to appeal. It won't be considered here otherwise. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:26, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I cordially request of Administrators here to lift the current topic ban against me in the ARBPIA area so that I might effectively contribute in that important area. A ban has been effective against me for one-year. The last appeal that I made was here, a little over six months ago. The history of my blocks in this area is one of rare occurence, which happened against me twice only after I had first filed complaints against two co-editors, and which complaints, in retrospect, were unwarranted. Both editors have had more blocks in the ARBPIA area than myself and yet are free to edit in this area. I am simply asking for admins to be impartial in my case and to give me the ability to contribute in this area, as it is an area in which I hope to add photographs to articles and to make general improvements in those articles, for the betterment of our online encyclopedia. The main issue that brought about my topic ban was that I was too rash, and I had wrongly accused the aforementioned editors of stalking me (again, a wrong assumption) because of their "opposite" political views. I should have rather discussed quietly and patiently the issues with them, without bringing it to a head on a WP noticeboard. This was clearly wrong of me to do, and I have since made strides to amend my behavior. I bear no ill feelings towards any co-editor here, even in cases where we might disagree on political issues. After all, our world is made-up of pluralistic views, and that's a good thing. The same editors that I disagreed with, I have also a long record of cordial relations with, here on Wikipedia. I'm simply asking for a second chance to prove my worthiness, and to expand articles (make corrections, etc.) in this field. Again, as I know myself, I am able to get along with all editors, even in cases of disagreement. My edits in the ARBPIA have mostly been very constructive, as the record will show. If I have erred in judgment regarding these two editors, which I did, let us fix the problem with a reprimand and move-on, without hampering the ability to contribute effectively in the betterment of our online encyclopedia.Davidbena (talk) 22:57, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The history of my blocks in this area is one of rare occurence - that's one way to put it, another way was that you didn't even last three months in the area in between topic bans. You were first topic banned in August 2018 [11], got it lifted in late February 2019 [12], and got a second topic ban in early May 2019 [13] for similar behaviour. starship .paint (talk) 04:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Both editors have had more blocks in the ARBPIA area than myself and yet are free to edit in this area. - it seems you haven't learned from the last failed appeal, where Grandpallama said: "Bringing up someone else's TBAN has nothing to do with your own behavior and is, as far as I'm concerned, further evidence that your own TBAN is appropriate and that you haven't learned anything." The same editors that I disagreed with, I have also a long record of cordial relations with - @Nableezy and Huldra: - would you agree with this sentence? starship .paint (talk) 04:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, honestly, I have absolutely nothing against any editor who may have amassed more topic bans than myself, and I only said this in the event that my two topic bans be used against me here, even though both topic bans were the result of my own initiating punitive measures against my fellow co-editors and having it backfire, and which I now see my actions as being uncalled for. I ask admins to be impartial in my case, as I think that I have demonstrated that I learnt my lesson well.Davidbena (talk) 04:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Davidbena

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To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

Appealing user: Davidbena (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – Davidbena (talk) 15:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sanction being appealed: Topic ban in the ARBPIA area; imposed here, during my last appeal.

Administrator imposing the sanction: Ymblanter (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Notification of that administrator: Notification

Statement by Davidbena

I humbly request an amendment by my fellow co-workers (administrators) on this project to lift a current topic ban against me in the ARBPIA area, and which action was taken against me twice in three months because of my having wrongly accused two other co-editors of stalking me, when that was not the case. That was poor judgment on my part, and I have since done my best to improve relations with one editor in particular, but have almost no contact with the other. A ban has been effective against me for one-year, last appealed in November of 2019. In future matters of dispute I will not be so rash as to level harsh criticisms and accusations against my disputants, but will seek to address the problem by cordial discussion of the issues involved. As I have stated repeatedly, I have since made strides to amend my behavior. I bear no ill feelings towards any co-editor here, even in cases where we might disagree on political issues. After all, our world is made-up of pluralistic views, and that's a good thing. I'm simply asking for another chance to prove my worthiness, and to expand articles (add photographs,make corrections, etc.) in this field. Again, as I know myself, I am able to get along with all editors, even in cases of disagreement. My edits in the ARBPIA have mostly been very constructive, as the record will show. If I have erred in judgment regarding these two editors, which I did, let us fix the problem with a reprimand and move-on, without hampering the ability to contribute effectively in the betterment of our online encyclopedia.

@EdJohnston: My interaction with Nableezy has been less than what it has been with Huldra, with whom I have kept-up a greater level of correspondence, e-mails, etc. although considerably less in recent days. If I'm not mistaken, some of my cordial exchanges with Nableezy which were made after our first conflict, can be seen here, in Talk:Kafr 'Inan#Kfar Hananya. As noted by the diffs, our cordial conversation was still in the making while a AN was filed against me here. I had already understood the mistake that I made in being too rash. As for Huldra, she has communicated privately with me in e-mails. I try my best to assist her, when I can. Even when she asked me to do an overhaul in the Surif article, which mostly spoke about its citizens from the standpoint of Palestinian Arab attacks against Israeli citizens, I agreed, and we made the necessary changes to that article, to reflect a more neutral image of that village (by the way, which village has also several Arab workers that work with us here, in Israel, whom I know personally and who are peaceable people).Davidbena (talk) 19:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston: following your directives, I have informed the involved editors User:Bishonen, User:Oshwah, and User:Euryalus about my pending topic ban appeal.Davidbena (talk) 00:44, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@El C:, thanks for the warning. To set the record straight, I have never edited an article that pertains to my workplace. I only mentioned in passing that I personally know a few Arabs who come from the village Surif, but they work in my village (moshav), for an Israeli institution.Davidbena (talk) 01:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Oshwah:, thanks for your response. As you mentioned your concern of a "conflict of interest" in the case of some of my edits, I assure you that I have never edited an article related to my workplace, and where I have mentioned an article (Surif) where I know people who have come from that place, this, too, is unrelated to my edits on that article. The only reason why I mentioned that article (and which I thought would be obvious to all) is that the article concerns the Israeli-Palestinian area of conflict, and despite my being an Israeli, I was able to cooperate with User:Huldra (who has strong Palestinian-Arab leanings in her edits), and to reach an agreement with her on how best to portray this village in Wikipedia, which before had been nothing more than a very long chronological table of terrorist-related actions emanating from that one village, something which we would not see even with the article Chicago and that has far more crime on a daily basis. I have no personal stakes or interests in that village, other than wanting to project a view that is agreeable with my fellow co-editors and who are on a different political spectrum than me. If anything, it shows that I can work harmoniously with editors who hold different political views from me.Davidbena (talk) 03:17, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Oshwah:, you asked me what have I learned, and what has changed since my last topic ban appeal, so I will do my best to answer you. First, my earlier conduct which led to my topic ban should be seen as an anomaly, rather than a norm, since the topic ban was provoked by my wrongly accusing the other two editors of hounding me. I have not repeated the same mistake since. If the admins remain in doubt as to my future conduct in the ARBPIA area, they can take my history of edits in one of the most recent Wikipedia articles, Hebraization of Palestinian place names, an article that primarily concerns itself with geographical place names in Palestine / Israel, and which initially wore an ARBPIA tag (preventing me from editing there) until the creator of the page agreed to remove the tag. From 13 May 2020 to 11 June 2020 (as you can see by the diff here), the article was without the ARBPIA tag and which enabled me to edit that page. When the tag was reinstated, my edits were suddenly halted, and before I was able to suggest an edit that would be more acceptable with the other editors, generated by a discussion in the article's Talk-Page, I was suddenly prevented from doing so by the addition of the ARBPIA tag. Compare, if you will, my suggestion to Zero0000 here. I wish to point out that before my involvement in this recent article, as shown by the history of edits before 13 May 2020 (such as here), the article had a clear bias against the practice of renaming / restoring names to sites in the country, and even cited an author who had a clear resentment towards those who made these changes. My contributions sought to give more balance to the article, giving actually the reasons why the committees, in most cases, decided to give / restore old namesakes to old sites in Palestine / Israel. I went so far on the Talk-Page as to translate whole Hebrew documents to provide a clear understanding of the evolvement of this phenomenon, as you can see here. You see, I honestly think that I have Wikipedia's core-interests at heart, to keep our online encyclopedia an educational source for millions of people --- insofar that Wikipedia is a part of the Internet, and the Internet is a part of the media, but more often times than not Wikipedia articles are at the mercy of Wikipedia writers' particular biases. Balance is, therefore, needed. If problems arise in the future, I will first seek the advice and counsel of other experienced administrators before asking that punitive measures be taken against a disruptive editor. Davidbena (talk) 12:40, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston: FYI: Among the admins that you requested of me to notice concerning this topic ban appeal, I received the following reply from Euryalus, here.Davidbena (talk) 12:48, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Ymblanter

Statement by Nableezy

I think this needs to go WP:AN as this was imposed here as part of a community consensus and not a single admin as a discretionary sanction. nableezy - 16:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

El C, I dont think this is a conundrum, and the community is always allowed to impose sanctions regardless of whether or not a single admin could have as a discretionary sanction. This is a community-imposed sanction and not one imposed under the auspices of an arbitration decision and as such it needs the community to rescind it, and that happens at AN, not at AE. This board is for things related to arbitration enforcement, and this ban is not such a thing. nableezy - 15:00, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I mean it would probably help get a more robust discussion if he notified the people who he had been in conflict with previously and more directly answered the requests posed to him from the people that did comment there, and who said they would vote when answered. Just unarchive the AN or make a new one. nableezy - 16:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Oshwah

From what I've gathered from past events, it appears that Davidbena was topic-banned from Palestine-Israel-related matters by community consensus in August 2018 (link to discussion). This ban was lifted by the community in February 2019 in a discussion at AN (diff, permalink). This ban was then applied again by the community only three months later in May 2019 (link to discussion). Davidbena tried appealing this topic ban in a discussion at AN six months later in November 2019 (link to discussion), which was unsuccessful. He then tried appealing again just shy of two weeks ago, which didn't result in much discussion let alone consensus (link to discussion). What concerns me here is that Davidbena has been given multiple opportunities to improve their behavior in this topic area, and even after the community lifted this ban to give him another chance and an opportunity to demonstrate improvement in this area, the community had to go back and re-instate the ban only three months after it was lifted. This is an obvious red flag to me, as well the statement above that he made (diff) stating, "I have never edited an article that pertains to my workplace. I only mentioned in passing that I personally know a few Arabs who come from the village Surif, but they work in my village (moshav), for an Israeli institution." This makes me feel that there's a level of ongoing personal conflict of interest (either at an emotional level or something of that matter) that's the driving force behind these behaviors and issues. If a user cannot manage their (possible) conflicts of interest or even just subjects or topics that evoke emotions or other feelings, then we have a duty to protect the project from disruption. If doing so requires that we set appropriate boundaries and apply necessary sanctions for these users, then that's what has to happen. I feel that, in this case, we've given this user multiple opportunities to correct their behavior, learn from their mistakes, and demonstrate improvement. What's different between now and the last time that Davidbena appealed their ban and the community decided to lift it? What didn't Davidbena learn from last time that he understands now? How is he going to improve his behavior this time that he didn't do before, and how is it going to stop any more issues moving forward? There's a lot of questions, and I the overall timeline of events should give us great pause. If we're going to appeal this ban, his answers to my questions above should (at a minimum) be very convincing... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:17, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Davidbena - Thank you for the response. Conflict of interest aside, what about the other questions I asked above? What's different between now and the last time that you appealed your ban and the community decided to lift it? What didn't you learn from last time that you understand now? What happened and what caused you to need a reinstatement of this topic ban a second time? Why didn't the behavior improve after the first ban was lifted? How are you going to improve your behavior this time that you didn't do before but should have? What will be different this time? How are you going to stop any more issues from occurring moving forward, and how are those changes going to keep yourself out of trouble in this topic area and prevent this from happening ever again? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:49, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by (involved editor 2)

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Davidbena

I endorse the appeal by Davidbena as he has apologized and realizes where he went wrong. He is a knowledgeable and positive contributor to WP. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 23:01, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Result of the appeal by Davidbena

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David has already attempted to appeal at AN recently (archived here), where his appeal languished and received few response (none from admins). Because the free-form AN and ANI rarely mixes well with ARBPIA, I almost always recommend that such discussions be brought here under the discretionary sanctions regime. But since this was a community ban (logged at WP:RESTRICT rather than at WP:AEL), I'm really at a loss at what he could do to get an appeal that includes a proper closure. Take it back to AN yet again, so soon? Try again at AN in six months? But, indeed, I don't think admins at AE have the power to override a community ban at AN. At the same time, what is an appellant to do when they get hardly anyone to participate in their appeal, not to mention decide it. I don't think that has ever happens here, at AE. That is partially why I recommend that no ARBPIA matters be discussed at AN and ANI, pretty much ever. Because then, among other things, we end up with these conundrums. El_C 23:43, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nableezy, that doesn't really respond to what I said, so I don't really have a followup. El_C 16:10, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Floquenbeam, indeed, there is an obligation, but the last appeal languished for about week. I just hope that does not happen again. El_C 16:36, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nableezy, I don't think David should be obligated to notify neither editors who he has been in dispute with (likely to sink his appeal) nor ones who are more like-minded (likely to come across as canvassing). That's just a recipe for future problems. El_C 16:57, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per Ed, any "others" mentioned by David should be mentioned by name or not mentioned at all. I agree that he can't have it both ways. But my advise to David would be to limit himself to himself rather than draw parallels with other editors. El_C 00:29, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

David, in general, you should not be editing any article that relates to your workplace, per Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy. Please keep that in mind if your appeal ends up being granted. El_C 01:28, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd recommend unarchiving the AN request, rather than making a new one. If the community imposes a sanction, we kind of have an obligation to review a request to remove it. This is clearly the wrong venue for reviewing a community sanction, and would just cause another AN thread if it was overturned here. I do not think a lack of significant participation in the previous attempt should count for or against removal. Unarchiving should get more eyes this time around. If Davidbena is worried about criticism of somehow gaming the system by unarchiving, let me know and I'll do it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm confused why this is still going on here. Three uninvolved admins have now said that the small subset of the community who are admins that patrol AE can't overturn a community consensus. No uninvolved admins have said they can. To be clear, I oppose a removal of the topic ban based on any discussion, no matter how long or how well attended, that occurs here. Just like I'd oppose it if it happened on Davidbena's talk page, or Talk:Peanut butter. At this time, I'm neutral on such a request if it is returned to AN, but if this is how Davidbena reacts to feedback, I also think it does not bode well for a ban removal. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:09, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I support User:Floquenbeam's idea of unarchiving Davidbena's last AN ban appeal. When he does so, perhaps he can include links to all the prior ban or unban discussions:

August 2018 – Original TBAN thread: WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive989#Davidbena
February 2019 – Successful appeal of first TBAN: WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive306#Request to lift my topic ban issued against me in August 2018
April 2019 – Second TBAN imposed: WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive308#Hounding and Deliberate Disruptive Editing

At the same time, the prior closers ought to be notified: Bishonen, Oshwah and Euryalus. If Davidbena renews his AN appeal, he needs a better argument. (A vague promise to do better in the future might be OK the first time around). He should address his past problems with more than generalities. Also, it will be more persuasive if he doesn't take up space in his own appeal to blame others: "others with many more blocks than me have been allowed to edit in this area.". Also he mentions two co-editors in the area who used to be opponents that he now gets along with. "The same editors that I disagreed with, I have also a long record of cordial relations with, here on Wikipedia". Maybe he can give the names of those two editors and ask them to comment on his appeal. EdJohnston (talk) 18:12, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chesdovi

Blocked for 6 months. El_C 15:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Request concerning Chesdovi

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Sir Joseph (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 23:30, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Chesdovi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

[14] Chesdovi is topic banned from Zionism..... :
[15] Chesdovi is still TBANNED from ARBPIA

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

[16] June 10, edit on his page about Ben-Gurion and how Zionism is more important than lives.
[17] June 7, editing the Ben-Gurion article, covered by ARBPIA (tban)
[18] June 7, editing the Ben-Gurion article, covered by ARBPIA.(tban)
[19] June 2, "Religious Zionist" covered under TBAN.
[20] Another Ben-Gurion article
[21] Haredim and Zionism tban violation April 30th
[22] Flag of Israel April 27, tban violation

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

[23] March 2016, TBAN from Zionism, Western Wall, adding Palestine or Palestinian to articles
[24] Feb 2016, ARBPIA TBAN still in force
[25]2012 Tban violation block

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N/A, TBAN Violation

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

(I did not include all the violations just many to show that it's not a one off, even after being politely warned.)

On April 30th, I posted on Chesdovi's talk page a welcome back to Wiki message after his 4 year absence. I told him that he seems to be editing in an area that he is tbanned from and he hasn't requested the tban to be rescinded. At that point I didn't take him to AE, just a polite welcome back and letting him know that the tban is still in force. [26]. He then asked me to file an appeal which I then told him that usually doesn't work, and that he should do it himself, but suggested that he stay away from his TBAN area for a little bit before jumping right back in after a 4 year absence. [27] I then posted another friendly warning on his page that his edits seem to be in the TBAN area, especially "broadly construed." https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chesdovi&diff=next&oldid=954299615 (May 24th)

On May 13th he request at WP:AN to "Lift Bans" see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive320#Lift_bans basically just asking to lift the bans. I told him there as well, that 1. You need to ask at AE, as I said on the talk page, and 2. You should edit in other areas first before jumping right in. Several admins concurred and the section was promptly closed.

Chesdovi has a very long history in the IP area and his skirting the ban is not a good thing, and while he may do good in other areas, for those who remember 2016 and prior, I don't think we need to go back to those times.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Notified: [28]

Discussion concerning Chesdovi

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Result concerning Chesdovi

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Alcaios

Filer blocked as sock.
— Berean Hunter (talk) 02:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Request concerning Alcaios

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Kip1234 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 19:27, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User against whom enforcement is requested: Alcaios (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:PERSONALATTACKS WP:CIVIL WP:LIBEL WP:HARASS

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Hi, I have not had to do this before even if editors have made (much less offensive or repetitive) personal attacks against me before. However, this user: Alcaios has been making frequent unsolicited and unwarranted personal attacks against me on the Celts talk page, including comparing me to a neo-nazi racist. I have included a screenshot, in case he then attempts to delete and deny what he has said. There would be also be other users that can corroborate the content of these attacks:

I have more but unfortunately was not permitted to upload them because of an invalid CSRF token tag.

[http://Difflink1 June 2020] Equating me to a neo-nazi racist for absolutely no reason
[http://Difflink2 June 2020] My reply asking him to not talk about/focus on race as it was a topic that wasn't relevant
[http://Difflink3 June 2020] False apology and accusation of me being a "racialist" rather than a "supremacist", even though I had asked him to stop bringing race into ethnic groups
[http://Difflink4 June 2020] Attack of "racialist thinking" because I pointed out that celts have paler skin and probably wouldn't have survived very well thousands of years ago in a much hotter climate
[http://Difflink5 June 2020] Indirect attack on other user because they agreed with me on an unrelated point for some reason

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

/* #Date Explanation */ /* #Date Explanation */

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Mentioned by name in the Arbitration Committee's Final Decision linked to above.
Previously blocked as a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict, see the block log linked to above.
Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict on Date by Username (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA).
Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above.
Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date
Participated in an arbitration request or enforcement procedure about the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date.
Successfully appealed all their own sanctions relating to the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on Date.
Placed a {{Ds/aware}} template for the area of conflict on their own talk page.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

I filed this request according to Graham's hierarchy of disagreement on the dispute resolution page, which his comments have repeatedly fallen under the most serious level of. He has also attempted to WP:BULLY me and other users, as well as harassment and other policy breaches. I will be happy to clarify, explain or be contacted in any way beyond this point.

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Discussion concerning Alcaios

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Alcaois: Sorta by definition, racialist aren't "reasonable". Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Alcaios

I have apologized for comparing Kip1234's views on Ancient peoples with that of Richard B. Spencer.

The quote is: Am I reading Richard B. Spencer? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you have a Romantic and racialist vision of Celts. (originally: Am I reading Richard B. Spencer?, which I have edited in the same sequence, not as an alteration of a past message that had already been answered to)

I still hold that Kip1234 has a racialist point of view of Celts and peoples in general. Alcaios (talk) 19:47, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I have never WP:BULLYied you, be reasonable. I have stated that your point of view on peoples is comparable with Spencer's, for which I have apologized, and I have stated that you're holding a racialist view of peoples, which I won't retract. Alcaios (talk) 23:13, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PS2: to be clear, the principal reason I won't apologize for stating that you're a racialist is this sentence: A cultural group is not the most important aspect of a "people" and can even change within a generation multiple times. To the contrary, I observe that culture is above nature in any human group. Had I been raised as a child in a black Nigerian family, I would be a Nigerian (read: culturally Nigerian) regardless of my genetic background. And if I fully adopt the French language and culture later in my life, I would be a French, again regardless of my ancestry (cf. cultural assimilation). In the same way, Celts are defined by a common language and culture by scholars (cf. Drinkwater: Their unity is recognizable by common speech and common artistic traditions.). Alcaios (talk) 00:15, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Statement by Kip1234

Result concerning Alcaios

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 :::::*David, in general, you should not be editing any article that relates to your workplace, per Wikipedia's [[WP:COI|conflict of interest policy]]. Please keep that in mind if your appeal ends up being granted. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 01:28, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 *I'd recommend unarchiving the AN request, rather than making a new one.  If the community imposes a sanction, we kind of have an obligation to review a request to remove it.  This is clearly the wrong venue for reviewing a community sanction, and would just cause another AN thread if it was overturned here. I do not think a lack of significant participation in the previous attempt should count for or against removal. Unarchiving should get more eyes this time around. If Davidbena is worried about criticism of somehow gaming the system by unarchiving, let me know and I'll do it.  --[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 16:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
+*::I'm confused why this is still going on here.  Three uninvolved admins have now said that the small subset of the community who are admins that patrol AE can't overturn a community consensus. No uninvolved admins have said they can.  To be clear, I '''oppose''' a removal of the topic ban based on any discussion, no matter how long or how well attended, that occurs here. Just like I'd oppose it if it happened on Davidbena's talk page, or [[Talk:Peanut butter]].  At this time, I'm neutral on such a request if it is returned to AN, but if this is how Davidbena reacts to feedback, I also think it does not bode well for a ban removal.  --[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 14:09, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 :*I support [[User:Floquenbeam]]'s idea of unarchiving Davidbena's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive320#Kindly_requesting_admins_to_rescind_my_ARBPIA_topic_ban last AN ban appeal]. When he does so, perhaps he can include links to all the prior ban or unban discussions:
 ::#August 2018 – Original TBAN thread: [[WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive989#Davidbena]]

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