Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/K6ka

K6ka

Voice your opinion on this candidate (talk page) (106/16/5); Scheduled to end 19:41, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Nomination

K6ka (talk · contribs) – It's long overdue that I present to you k6ka for consideration for adminship. In many ways, k6ka reminds me of me: they're rather gnomish, focusing more on the maintenance side of the project and helping other users rather than writing articles directly. I first came across k6ka in 2014 when they began clerking at the Wikipedia:Changing username venues. I was rather impressed with their diligent work there - they had a keen sense of the relevant policies, guidelines, and community norms, and excelled at helping users navigate the sometimes-confusing username change process. Accordingly, I encouraged them to apply for the meta:Global renamer privilege when it became available to non-bureaucrat users in 2015. Since their successful candidacy, I've had the privilege of working alongside k6ka on the global rename queue, at meta:Steward requests/Username changes, Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple, as well as Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations (where they continue to clerk in advance of the much-awaited global usurpation policy). While k6ka does not have a large volume of content-writing contributions that can be presented for scrutiny, neither did I when I became an administrator many moons ago. And we need administrators who are willing to do the grunt-work of clearing backlogs, just as we need our article writers to focus on creating high-quality content for our readers. Accordingly, I strongly recommend granting k6ka the administrative toolset - I'm certain you will not be disappointed with their administrative work. –xeno^talk 16:39, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Co-nomination

xeno gave a great summary of K6ka's work in the renaming-department of Wikipedia. With a whopping 34,000 mainspace edits however, K6ka also does great work with counter-vandalism. First thing one notices when they go to k6ka's talk page are multiple notices that would help new editors, which are frequently attracted to vandal-fighters' talk pages. If you visit k6ka's subpages, there are multiple ones that might attract a new user. One that catches the eye is User:K6ka/Becoming a vandal fighter. It is pretty much an unintended, extremely simplified version of User:Callanecc/CVUA/Tasks. With 3 years of activity, a clean blocklog, and exemplary responses in the archives, it is pretty clear that k6ka is civil. I am sure that k6ka would be a great contribution to the mop corps. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 19:16, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I accept, thank you for the nomination. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 19:41, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?

A: I intend on focusing primarily on AIV, as my background on Wikipedia is largely comprised of vandal fighting. I have also reported a number of usernames to UAA, and my background in global renaming will also come in handy there, as I can already process username change requests. I have tried out New Pages Patrolling, but very scantily, and I don't intend on working there anytime soon. I also don't have much interest in working at AFD. I have had experience with the admin tools on Wikia, but Wikia and Wikipedia are two very different places, so expect me to be a bit careful with the tools within the first week of adminship. Of course, I'll ask for help during difficult situations.

2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?

A: Much on my work on Wikipedia has been fighting vandalism, and recently I have been very active on WP:CHUS, processing requests there. Before I received global rename, I was a clerk there — a non-admin clerk, admittedly, but the job didn't require the admin bit, and it was really mostly about fixing malformed requests and notifying users about problematic requests.

I will admit that I do not have much content creation tucked under my belt. Most of my non-maintenance edits on Wikipedia have been gnomish work, fixing typos, some copyediting here and there, adding a source, etc. Recently I've been working on Tribu (film), which isn't a particularly *exciting* article, but while it may not meet up to even GA standard, it still looks better than when I first found the article earlier this year.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: I've been fairly careful to avoid conflict on Wikipedia, though there have been some shoe scuffs here and there. The most significant of the conflicts I had been involved in took place at Talk:Street Artists Program of San Francisco about two years ago. I only made one edit to the article in question; I noticed that a substantial part of the article was removed despite being sourced, so I reverted with an explanation. I tried to explain our policies to the editor that got reverted, but as I lacked interest in the subject of the article, I limited my participation on the talk page. There was a resulting edit war on the article, one that I did not partake in, and eventually the editor was blocked per WP:NOTHERE. It did help me familiarize myself with the content policies, and above all it was a very important reminder not to lose one's cool and to always assume good faith, especially if you're telling other editors to do the same. I don't recall too many times where I have been frustrated with an editor, and I'm willing to apologize for any cases where I have snapped, since that's never okay even if I was right.

My only significant appearance on ANI can be found here. It was not a user conduct issue, but a technical one; a glitch in the MediaWiki software resulted in random users being notified about messages left on their talk page even when no such message existed. It just so happened that one of the warnings I (correctly) issued somehow gave an innocent user a notification, and the user got confused and thought something was up. The problem was already being discussed at the correct venues, and was fixed shortly after.

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Additional question from Linguist111

4. You see the following usernames at UAA or in the new users log. None of the users have edited yet. What do you do?

• JulieLejeune&MelissaRusso
• K7ka
• SpeedyDelete201
• DonaldTrumpFan930
• Jim bo
• UndoEdits732
• IWannaBeAnAdminAndSPIClerk

A:

• JulieLejeune&MelissaRusso: This username is clearly in violation of WP:ISU, as it implies that the account is in use by two or more people. A quick Google search indicates that these two names are real people who are already deceased, so that would also be of something to note, especially if the user chooses to edit articles that are related to the subjects in their username. WP:UAAI states that it is not sufficient to block an account for implied sharing alone, so the best course of action would be to tap the user on the shoulder and inform them about their username, and encourage them to change it.
• K7ka: A red flag for sure. I'm willing to err on the side of caution and wait for them to edit. If it's clear that they are attempting to impersonate me and are disrupting Wikipedia, I'll block immediately. If they aren't editing, it may be best to AGF and leave them a note advising them about the similarities between our usernames.
• SpeedyDelete201: May count as a misleading username as it appear[s] similar to naming conventions used by community administrative processes. If they aren't editing disruptively I'd softblock and encourage them to change their username.
• DonaldTrumpFan930: Nothing inherently wrong with this username, but would monitor this user for any biased/promotional editing. Highly unlikely that they would be blocked for their username, however.
• Jim bo: May be an intentional reference to Jimbo Wales, and may also be perfectly innocent; their nickname (or real name) may be "Jimbo" or "Jim Bo" and there's nothing wrong with that. Would monitor for inappropriate edits, however.
• UndoEdits732: Much like "SpeedyDelete201", it may count as a misleading username and it may imply disruption as well. Again, if there aren't any disruptive edits, I'd softblock and encourage them to change their username.
• IWannaBeAnAdminAndSPIClerk: This username doesn't seem to be a clear-cut violation of WP:MISLEADNAME, as it makes it fairly clear that it isn't yet an admin or an SPI clerk. It does imply, however, that the person behind the username already has a knowledge of Wikipedia administrators and sockpuppet investigations. I would not block immediately without sufficient evidence; it could be a troll, an actual sockpuppet, or a young, enthusiastic hat collector — best case scenario is that it's nothing harmful at all. Would monitor their activity, and if a block is issued, it would be because of their actions; the username itself is not enough to warrant a block alone.

—k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 21:19, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Additional question from Beyond My Ken

5. In 2013 53% of your edits were to mainspace. In 2014, they fell to 47%, then 43% in 2015, and this year they are a little under 30%. Why is that? What have you been been doing instead of editing the content of the encyclopedia?

A: In 2013 I was still a fairly inexperienced editor, without much knowledge of the Project namespace; as such, I mostly edited mainspace articles. In 2014 and 2015, I focused heavily on vandalism-fighting and patrolling, which created a significant uptick in User talk and Project namespace edits. I did less patrolling in 2016, however, and primarily focused on working at WP:CHU, hence the reduction in mainspace edits. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 21:28, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Additional question from Ritchie333

6. A brand new user creates an article. Its text in full is "the target roundabout is in west london". What actions, if any, would you take towards this?

A: The article should be left alone for at least ten to fifteen minutes to give the editor some time to expand on it. A1 is not appropriate for this article as there is some context to help editors expand on it, and it is not eligible for A3 as it isn't entirely devoid of content. At the very least parts of the article can be slightly rewritten (e.g. "<Name of roundabout>" is a roundabout in West London"), and a {{Road-stub}} tag can be added. While it may not be eligible for CSD, I may PROD it if I cannot find any reliable sources relating to the subject of the article. In all cases I would ask for a second opinion, though not "formally"; I may either ask an editor who is interested in road-related articles for advice, or I may bring it up on IRC for suggestions from other editors. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 00:04, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Additional question from Ritchie333

7. An IP adds an infobox to John Le Mesurier with no edit summary. It is quickly reverted by an established editor known for creating multiple featured articles with an edit summary "rvv". A different IP, but clearly a dynamic one allocated to the same ISP, puts the infobox back in, again with no edit summary. The experienced editor reverts with a summary "rv tedious bullshit". The IP re-reverts the infobox with no edit summary again, and it is promptly reverted by the experienced editor with a summary "why don't you fuck off to facebook"; additionally the experienced editor adds {{uw-vandalism4}} to the IP's talk page. You are asked to take a look at the dispute; what actions would you take?

A: The first course of action would be to notify the IP editor about the three revert rule, remind the experienced editor about the consequences for edit warring, and encourage the two to stop editing the article and discuss the changes (politely) on the article's talk page; a handwritten message should be used for the more experienced editor, to avoid templating them. The experienced editor should also be advised to mind their use of language and to avoid telling editors to "fuck off" as this, at the very least, construes incivility and makes consensus-building difficult. It should also be worth mentioning that their use of {{uw-vandalism4}} is grossly inappropriate as edit warring, while disruptive, is not considered to be vandalism, and it is also inappropriate to use considering the IP editor hasn't been issued lower-level warnings before. On the other hand, the IP editor should be advised to also stop edit warring and to discuss their changes on the talk page, and to seek towards achieving a new consensus through civil discussion or to respect existing ones. If the two users persist, I would prefer asking another administrator for a second opinion, especially if this was the first time I was attempting to resolve a potential edit war as an administrator. In all cases, it's best to avoid making any changes to the article that may aggravate the edit war, or would otherwise convince other editors that I was involved in the war. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 00:04, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Additional question from WereSpielChequers

8. Two of the opposes mention your level of content contributions, in your answers you mention one article and that sometimes you add a source. Please could you give us a few diffs showing where you have added a source other than to Tribu (film)?

A: I've added some sources to Kabuki, Maya society, Maya script, Maya numerals, Not Giving In, and Toronto Transit Commission, to name a few. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 20:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

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Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review his contributions before commenting.

Support

1. Support as co-nominator. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 19:43, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
2. Support I've known K6ka for a while now and I can say, without a doubt, that I would trust them with the admin tool set. Their judgment in matters of renaming prove that they are competent enough to be granted the bit. --Majora (talk) 19:47, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
3. Support – I've interacted with K6ka several times on IRC (often when our names are confused), and they will clearly be a great admin. KSFT^C 19:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
4. Support Lets see how many people say thought he was one already ;) Full Rune^{Speak, child of Guthix} 19:52, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
5. Support. Obvious net positive. k6ka has been trusted with global renamer for a while, which is a right that can crash the site if misused, so he's reached the threshold of trust many times over. As far as competency, every interaction I've had with the candidate has been extremely positive. WP:AIV and WP:UAA both need additional administrators to process things in a timely manner. The former is high-priority, and the latter is chronically backlogged. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 19:53, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
6. Support Per xeno. Lourdes 19:54, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
7. Support. Bradv 19:56, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
8. Support Obvious net-positive. Thought they were one already. Someone should really write an essay about that. --AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 20:02, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

   @AntiCompositeNumber: Ask, and ye shall receive. Lepricavark (talk) 20:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

9. Number 10, double-digits! WP:NETPOSITIVE. Happy New Year! Linguist ^Moi? Moi. 20:24, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
10. Support clear net–positive. Lepricavark (talk) 20:25, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
11. Support Per Rob13. Clearly deserves the tools. Joshualouie711^talk 20:32, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
12. Support - In the nicest possible way this is loooong overdue!, But anywho another excellent candidate who I'm sure will make an excellent admin :), I see no issues here, Good lock. –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 20:38, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
13. Support About time. Widr (talk) 20:42, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
14. Absolutely, no qualms at all. — foxj 20:50, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
15. Support as a well rounded editor with a clear need for the tools. K6ka has a demonstrated civility and the level of clue we should expect from our administrators -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 20:54, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
16. Support - it would be almost inappropriate to simply say, "we need more admins," because it ignores how strong a candidate K6ka is. I've seen him around plenty and have full faith in his abilities and competence with the mop. Best, GAB^gab 20:56, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
17. Support Why not? -FASTILY 21:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
18. Support Absolutely. Go forth and fix UAA. ;-) Katie^talk 21:18, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
19. Support – Certainly. Haven't encountered this user before, but he seems to be just what we should be looking for in new admins. United States Man (talk) 21:23, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
20. Support - Another editor I'm surprised to learn doesn't have the tools. 81k edits, no blocks, strong gnome. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
21. Support I started to write a nomination statement for K6ka over a year ago, but never finished it or presented it to him. Now I won't get the credit as a nominator :( but that's OK, just glad to see this happening! On the counter-vandalism front, K6ka is easily one of the best in the fleet. It only makes sense to give them the block and protect buttons. I can count on two hands instances they've resorted to pinging admins on IRC to protect a page due to rapid influx of vandalism, when the WP:RFPP request had gone unanswered for some time. Clear case of they need the tools, but don't have them, and the project consequently suffers. That's a net-positive, but I think they'll far exceed even that classification. Sure, content creation is important, but the bulk of adminship is about preventing abuse, and that's something K6ka excels at — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:34, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

    I don't agree with that. Most of my admin work is deleting articles per CSD A7 / G11, but I'm sure the vast majority were created in good faith, so "preventing abuse" is an ill-fitting description. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:37, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

22. Support - highly accomplished for his age! Bearian (talk) 21:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
23. Support strong candidate Dschslava ^Δx parlez moi 21:42, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
24. Strong support Lucky 25? Wow! I reached out to k6ka just last week regarding them considering adminship. After writing a nomination, a few editors approached me cautioning k6ka's range of experience, etc. Second-guessing prospects, I told k6ka that I would nominate after a bit more of time. In the same boat as you, Musik. Clearly, I have no second thoughts about this support. Well deserved, and Happy New Year k6ka! --JustBerry (talk) 21:54, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
25. Support. Fully qualified candidate. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:02, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
26. Strong support Absolutely! I've seen k6ka on ClueBot's talk page many a time. Always applies logic, common sense and keeps a calm head with awkward editors--5 albert square (talk) 22:04, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
27. Support. Wow, what a great New Year this is turning into! Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:12, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
28. Support An excellent editor! I've interacted with him many times on IRC, and he's very competent, skilled, and kind. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 23:01, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
29. Support Competent editor, who is a net positive. We need more vandal fighters with the tool set, and K6ka is a great example of what we need in administrators. --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 23:17, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
30. Support no obvious issues. Looks to be a net-positive. No objections to giving them the mop. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:57, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
31. Support - k6ka is a net positive and definitely worthy of the mop. He has an established track record with the community in vandal fighting and solid decision making. -- Dane ^talk 00:09, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
32. Support. Good editor, very helpful, responsible, and friendly from personal interaction Sn1per (talk) 00:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
33. Very Strong 100,000,000 Million Billion Trillion Times Support Support. k6ka if you are reading this, IMO you should have been admin two years ago. You're a very nice user who is kind and welcoming to everyone, and is always calm, but you also help keep Wikipedia free of vandalism and do a very good job at it. I admire your sense of humor sometimes. I think you are about one of five or six people I can personally say this about. epicgenius (talk) 00:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC) And he's only a year older than me. I like that. More young editors here. epicgenius (talk) 00:18, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

    I trust you mean more young mature editors - if Wikipedia became full of teenagers high-fiving each other with vandalism barnstars I think a sizeable portion of editors would leave. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:39, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

    On a tangent to Ritchie333's comment, according to Wikipedia:Systemic bias, the "average Wikipedian" is between ages 15 through 49. What we really need is more contributors over the age of 50 in order to balance the age pool. Mz7 (talk) 20:07, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

    @Ritchie333: Are you saying it isn't? (((The Quixotic Potato))) (talk) 20:11, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

34. Support. K6ka has the demeanor and calm composure to be a good administrator. I have noticed K6Ka's work almost from the beginning. I have had friendly interactions with K6ka. Great in the counter-vandalism area where 24/7 vigilance is needed so extra administrators paying attention to it are needed as well. Good experience so knows policies and the purpose of the project. Very well qualified editor. I am fully confident that K6ka will seek to learn about and seek advice about any new areas of work. Has shown trustworthiness and has earned unqualified support. Donner60 (talk) 00:33, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
35. Support more admins is always a good thing especially ones who want to handle AIV/UAA. --Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 01:20, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
36. Oppose - proven to be power-hungry on IRC. Support - Looks good to me. -- The Voidwalker ^Whispers 01:23, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
37. Support - clearly is trusted enough to hold sysop rights here, given their (formerly) bureaucrat-level rights across all Wikimedia projects. Also has some use for the bit! Thanks for volunteering. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 01:57, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
38. Strong Support- Its great to make my first edit of 2017 supporting k6ka! I first ran into him in July when he helped me with the renaming process and he's one of those people who I thought they were already an admin! He's trusted with global tools too, so why not? It may be time to remove the "I'm not an admin" bit from your talk page notice😉 Happy new year! Class455 (talk|stand clear of the doors!) 01:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
39. Meh- --Stemoc 02:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

    @Stemoc: Would you mind elaborating? --JustBerry (talk) 19:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

40. Candidate appears competent at their planned areas of activity. I will however note my discomfort with part of the answer to Q6--IRC should in my opinion never be used as a substitute for on-wiki communication, particularly where new users are involved and we should be trying to make our process and policies as clear and straightforward as possible. C628 (talk) 02:31, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
41. Support - Easy decision. Surprised K6ka hasn't already been granted adminship. Kurtis ^(talk) 02:34, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
42. Support No issue. -- ferret (talk) 02:46, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
43. Support. No concerns. Have had good interactions with this editor. K6ka does good work. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:50, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
44. Support – K6ka is one of the most seasoned vandalism patrollers on the project. He avoids drama, is experienced in the various janitorial areas of the project, and is appropriately cautious about using administrative functions in areas where he is unfamiliar. I had a memorable interaction with K6ka way back in March 2014 while we were fighting vandalism together on Huggle – he is invariably the one who beats you to the revert button (and never inappropriately). K6ka has a friendly, mature temperament, and if he ever makes a mistake, he is of the kind to admit it and ensure that it never happens again. Mz7 (talk) 02:54, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
45. Absolutely. Without hesitation - K6 will be a benefit to the project. SQL^{Query me!} 03:15, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
46. Support per strong nomination, benevolent intent, and abundance of clue.--John Cline (talk) 03:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
47. Support another great editor whose successful adminship will give Wikipedia a boost in the right direction. Gizza ^(t)(c) 04:55, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
48. Support I've seen K6ka around RFA and AIV for quite some time. I was very tempted to ask them to explain in their own words the difference between a block and a ban. Other comments like this fill me with confidence. Growing the Canadian admin cabal one qualified candidate at a time. Mkdw ^talk 05:23, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
49. Support WP:TTWOA! K6 is an amazing editor who should have earned this position a long time ago. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:57, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
50. Support - A great user, very helpful and polite. Definitely, without hesitation --EurovisionNim (talk to me)(see my edits) 06:09, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
51. Support because I see no reason not to. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
52. Support clueful and civil, wants to fight vandals and work in backlogged areas? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:38, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
53. Support no issues here, knowledgeable and recognises that asking for advice is a good idea. Yet another editor I thought was already an admin. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:53, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
54. Support, why not? Mike Peel (talk) 07:00, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
55. Strong support Jianhui67 ^T★C 07:28, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
56. Support So often people whose primary contributions are anti-vandalism get pushed to the side. Eric-Wester (talk) 07:37, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

    Support Now I have to be honest and say that K6ka is quite a different character to myself and we probably have different views on what's important around here. However, after a thorough look and tackling the questions (loosely based on real world events), I can't do anything other than support. My advice : don't spend all your time at AIV as false positive mistakes will acrue you enemies, and treat the so-called "content creators" with respect and handle tricky situations carefully and diligently. And the Target Roundabout really does exist. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:52, 1 January 2017 (UTC) (moved to oppose)

57. Support – K6ka impressed me when I welcomed him to Wikipedia and advised him about how to deal with vandalism, and I've continued to be impressed by him ever since. Graham87 10:23, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
58. Support: candidate has demonstrated trustworthiness as a global renamer and I have no reason to believe this will not continue when an admin. 🎄BethNaught (talk)🎄 10:51, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
59. Support - old cliché, I know, but I thought they already were an admin. Best of luck! Patient Zero^talk 11:46, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
60. Support - Didn't think he was one already but he clearly should be one. I trust him not to dive head over heels in new admin territory and/or make painful mistakes. Yintan  12:17, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
61. Support - CAPTAIN RAJU ^(✉) 12:40, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
62. Support as K6ka appears thoroughly experienced in the areas in which he intends to do adminship work and trustworthy. Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 13:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
63. Support: Trustworthy - Ret.Prof (talk) 13:30, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
64. Support - outstanding editor. I'm surprised he isn't an admin already. YITYNR ^{My work • What's wrong?} 14:50, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
65. Support. He's shown responsibility and maturity during his time here, and I can think of no reason why he wouldn't make a great admin. Colonel Wilhelm Klink (^Complaints|_Mistakes) 16:59, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
66. Support, great responses to situation questions and a good plan laid out by the candidate of what they will do when they do get the mop. Icebob99 (talk) 18:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
67. Support - Favourable impression of k6ka from previous encounters. Cabayi (talk) 19:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
68. Support - clueful candidate. Risker (talk) 20:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
69. Support A quick check of this user's contributions does not raise any red flags but instead demonstrates the reliable and clueful wikignoming this project needs as well as content creators. To the opposing users, let me just remind you, that administrators need content awareness, not content creation to do a good job. The admin's symbol is a mob and not a pen for a reason. Plus, they wouldn't be the first user to start content creation after becoming an admin. I am surely not a prolific writer but even I have 31 DYK credits under my belt - each and every one created after I became an admin. Those obsessed with a candidate's content creation imho fail to understand what adminship is and is not about. Requiring admins to be great content creators is like requiring museum janitors to be great artists. I don't think any museum does that. So why should we? Regards SoWhy 20:47, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

    I'm sure that you meant "mop" and not "mob", but I cannot help but to think that it was a very apt slip instead of a typo. (Said purely in a friendly and humorous way, and not intended as a criticism or a gotcha.) --Tryptofish (talk) 00:10, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

70. Support Certainly a trustful user. —GFOLEY FOUR!— 21:13, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
71. Support no concerns whatsoever, seems like an ideal candidate. st170e 21:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
72. Support It's unusual for a candidate to actually be nominated by a bureaucrat, let alone a trusted editor. With that kind of trust, it's certainly a win-win situation as far as I know. Minima© (talk) 21:26, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
73. Support I cannot see anything that worries me. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:38, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
74. If adminship were a "perfect editor" award, I'd oppose this nomination over the lack of content work. Since it's not, that would be silly. You don't suddenly achieve wiki-enlightenment after your 3rd DYK about a train station or mushroom species. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 23:05, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
75. Support. I see no cause for concern. -- Tavix ^(talk) 23:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
76. Support Candidate explicitly states that they do not intend to work in AfD or NPP. Content creation and AfD work aren't needed to block users at AIV and UAA. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 23:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
77. Support Whilst I generally insist on content creation before the mop should be handed out, here we've got an editor who has a clear track record in areas where admin tools would be most helpful. If I may offer some advice: should your bid be successful, it would be best not to stray into admin areas where more content creation is helpful for having a better understanding of policy and context. Also, it may lessen the concern that some editors have already expressed through oppose votes, if you were to make a statement regarding Wikipedia:Administrators open to recall. But I for one are convinced that having you on the sysop team would be a plus for the WP community. Schwede66 23:46, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
78. Support ^{Babymissfortune} 01:38, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
79. Support as a clear net positive, and from my many great interactions with him. K6ka is a wonderful editor, and would be a great addition to the administrator team. Enterprisey (talk!) 01:45, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
80. Support per SoWhy and WP:CANCC. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 02:11, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
81. Support There are multiple paths to becoming a good administrator; content work is valuable, but gnomish work is valuable too, and I see no reason to keep a good editor from getting the bit because they favor one over the other. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 02:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
82. Support I think they would be the perfect addition to the admin team. Content creation is not a prerequisite for adminship, IMHO. --Adam in MO Talk 02:24, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
83. Support no concerns, good anti-vandal record Atlantic306 (talk) 03:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
84. Strong Support. K6ka is an editor whose name frequently appears in my Watchlist warning vandals. He ought to have the prerogative to block vandals himself.– Gilliam (talk) 06:09, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
85. Support - some editors create articles, others improve them, others like deleting them. The opposers favouring one of these over the other is ridiculous. K6ka is clearly here to build something for the tools will help them do that. No concerns. GiantSnowman 10:19, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
86. Support precious fighting vandalism with music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
87. Support Solid candidate despite the modest content contributions. Pichpich (talk) 16:48, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
88. Support. Would have co-nominated them myself if I had had more time lately. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 17:56, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
89. Support: I usually favor some content creation, but the nearly 30,000 reverts and prolific counter-vandalism work far outweighs that concern. Esquivalience (talk) 19:23, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
90. Support. The opposers make some sense. It's perfectly reasonable to expect that somebody 'gets' what we're doing here and has demonstrated at least basic editing skills. We need our administrators to be able to tell the difference between vandalism and constructive edits, between reliable and unreliable sources, between neutral editing and POV pushing; and we need them to be able to respond appropriately. But I believe K6ka has demonstrated those abilities through seven years of editing. I was on the fence at first, but the answer Q8 swung me firmly into the support column: the edits to Maya society, Maya script, and Maya numerals show that he is willing and able to do some research and find a reliable source for something rather than robotically tagging and moving on. That's enough for me. It's true that that is the primary purpose of Wikipedia whereas K6ka tends to focus on secondary activities, but we're all volunteers and we focus on what we're interested in, and nobody sensibly doubts that maintenance and vandal-fighting need to be done. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
91. Support because Wikipedia needs more active administrators, and this user is a net positive. kennethaw88 • talk 20:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
92. Strong support based on my prior interactions with this user. Easily gonna be a good admin. — Gestrid (talk) 21:17, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
93. Clueful, easy to work with. --Rschen7754 21:35, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
94. Support. Kishka! :D Someone give this man a mop. -- œ^™ 22:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
95. Support per WP:NOBIGDEAL. The more admins around, the less of a 'special status' it'll seem.--v/r - TP 23:08, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
96. Support I've had the opportunity to interact with the candidate on IRC and on the project. They consistently make high quality edits and their work in clerking leads me to believe that they have both a need for the tools and the responsibility to handle them. AlexEng^(TALK) 00:07, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
97. Support. I've had to think hard about this one, but I'm ending up supporting pretty much per HJ Mitchell. On the one hand, I see no problem with what the candidate says on their user page about content creators and admins. I'm definitely not a stickler for content creation, but I think that quite a few oppose comments are valid to the extent that there really is awfully little experience in content matters. (The diffs about giving incorrect advice to new editors are pretty old, from 2014.) I looked at the ANI thread linked in the answer to Q3, and had a moment of cognitive dissonance over all those links dated later in 2017, but I would have been happier if the candidate had been a little more communicative about feeling bad about the glitch. So I've wondered if this is someone who lacks the communication skills that admins need, and also lacks enough experience in content disputes beyond just vandalism reverts. So my advice is to not overreach, just focus on using the tools in the spirit of "mopping" rather than mediating or enforcing complex disputes. And that said, I trust the noms enough to believe that there won't be overreach, and I see this as a net positive. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:22, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
98. Support - k6ka is a solid wiki gnome. I'm sure they'll be a fantastic addition the admin team. Auror Andrachome (talk) 00:55, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
99. Support following a modest review of contributions, Q&A, etc. --joe decker^talk 01:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
100. Support - I have no major concerns, and the concerns about not enough content creation are of no concern to me with respect to this user. The answers to the questions thus far are satisfactory. Inks.LWC (talk) 01:34, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
101. Support - WP:NETPOSITIVE, and I trust that the user will use the tools they know how to use, and seek help if they come across a situation they don't feel comfortable with. PGWG (talk) 01:38, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
102. It's no surprise that I've always been against the notion that editors have to only write articles and do nothing else here to be admins. Wizardman 02:21, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
103. Support K6ka reminds me of me in a way. Not a lot of content creation, but knows good content, and does a lot to help the project. Would be a solid choice as an admin. RickinBaltimore (talk) 02:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
104. Support Competent editor. I've seen K6ka a lot around here and have always been shocked that he isn't an admin. — Music1201 ^talk 02:28, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

     @Music1201: It's "he", actually. I'm a male, and I identify myself as such. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 02:38, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

     @K6ka: That was a typo, my apologies. — Music1201 ^talk 02:40, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

105. Support. As Ritchie333 states in his oppose: ’’teenagers high-fiving each other with vandalism barnstars ‘’ happened to be also the reason the WP:CVUA was closed down a few years ago and re-started again from scratch, so I do have a certain foreboding of people who started their Wiki career before they were old enough to wear long trousers. Fortunately this not the case here and K6ka obviously does not appear to have been working towards adminship, but oddly that brings me to the essence of my concern: mainly, but mot only, the lack of article creation. There are a few valid points in the oppose section coming from people I enjoy working with, while other comments there I take with a pinch of salt. Failing widely to meet my criteria largely because some of the items the list are conditional on others (conundrum: you can’t be classed as a bad driver if you’ve never driven a car and don't know the difference between a clutch pedal and a rear view mirror), I could nevertheless not come up with the kind of flimsy cause to oppose as one of our regular oppose voters is wont to do. I therefore put my trust in Xeno whose opinions I trust and respect, and HJ Mitchell (who also ought to be a 'crat by now) who makes the most valid statement, in the knowledge that K6ka is almost certainly going to be a net positive and will probably not find himself at the centre of too much drama in horrible places such as ANI. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
106. Support as nominator. –xeno^talk 06:52, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose Insufficient experience of content creation. The candidate has never created an article, does not have autopatrolled status and so has little to show in Q2. Clerking does not seem to be an adequate substitute. Andrew D. (talk) 10:44, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Now that you mention it, he has no experience deleting stuff either or blocking, 0 deletes and 0 blocks, soooo unqualified to be an admin, I wonder what i was thinking when I 'Meh'ed him ..--Stemoc 11:04, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Editors can get experience of deletion policy by attending AfD, for example. But the candidate only seems to have participated in three AfD discussions and that also seems inadequate. Andrew D. (talk) 11:23, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   I know it's fashionable to dump on Andrew D at RfA these days, but he has a valid point here. I am certainly uncomfortable about people who file an RfA specifically for the block button, which is the most contentious tool of the whole lot. My take on it is that I don't expect K6ka to get involved in difficult content disputes or closing AfDs as it's not his area of interest, and I'm sure that if he did, a quiet word asking him to get more experience in the area would be probably work. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:34, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   For the record, K6ka does indeed have autopatrolled status, and has had it for a little less than a year now. —GFOLEY FOUR!— 11:10, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   That's a good point. What is the explanation for it? Andrew D. (talk) 11:17, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Gilliam granted it, ask him. 🎄BethNaught (talk)🎄 11:19, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Gilliam has supported but has not yet commented on this aspect so I took a look at what was happening. Gilliam seems to grant such permissions frequently to recent changes patrollers. This doesn't seem to relate to activity on site such as WP:PERM so I suppose that related communication happens in some other forum such as IRC. Another user who was granted autopatrolled rights in a similar way at that time was Helpsome. They had actually created some articles though not as many as the suggested standard of 25. They all seem to be about buddhism and the first example is Tsadra Foundation. This seems somewhat promotional in tone and so my impression is that the granting of autopatrolled status was premature. But admins can grant such permissions at their discretion. When you grant admin rights, you are giving privileged keys not just to that person, but to a potentially unlimited number of other users too. Andrew D. (talk) 09:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

2. Oppose - per Andrew's !vote and also the user gives an impression that they're here only for the administrative tools and not for constructive editing such as improving an article by adding content. Most of their edits are merely revertions and undos of other editors' edits. I also think that the user fail to distinguish between what seems wrong and what is actually wrong. For example, the username K7ka seems to be impersonating K6ka. It seems wrong but it isn't because it's just a username that could be coincidentally the same as K6ka's without any malicious intentions. The proper response to that should be to leave it alone and judge their impersonation by editing skills. I feel that the user should demonstrate a desire to help Wikipedia by contributing content and not just by reverting vandalism before getting the admin rights. - TheMagnificentist 12:05, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Re K7ka - That's exactly what they've said they'll do A red flag for sure. I'm willing to err on the side of caution and wait for them to edit. If it's clear that they are attempting to impersonate me and are disrupting Wikipedia, I'll block immediately. Administrators are frequently targeted by trolls who try to impersonate them or who create derogatory derivatives of their usernames, nothing K6ka has said deviates at all from commonly accepted norms in dealing with impersonation or trolling. Nick (talk) 12:50, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   It would be improper to block in such a case. Per WP:TOOLMISUSE, "Administrators should not normally use their tools in matters in which they are personally involved". It would be better to report the alleged impersonator to WP:UAA and let an independent admin make the call. Andrew D. (talk) 13:01, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   We've never considered blocking obvious impersonation accounts or trolling accounts to have any level of 'personal involvement' and as far back as I can remember, I can recall no administrator being sanctioned for doing so, hence K6ka's answer being in line with commonly accepted norms. Nick (talk) 13:10, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   (edit conflict)TOOLMISUSE says the following on the subject "Administrators should not normally use their tools in matters in which they are personally involved (for example, in a content dispute in which they are a party). See Involved admins" (emphasises added). The use of "normally" implies that there are circumstances in which such tool usage is acceptable. WP:INVOLVED further clarifies that "in straightforward cases (e.g., blatant vandalism), the community has historically endorsed the obvious action of any administrator – even if involved – on the basis that any reasonable administrator would have probably come to the same conclusion." I consider username impersonation to be a serious form of vandalism because it poses a serious threat of disruption. Therefore, I disagree with your interpretation of policy here. Lepricavark (talk) 13:14, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   It is quite normal for usernames to be similar because there are many millions of user accounts while the possibilities are limited. For example, I see a User:Nick-D active on my watchlist just now. That seems to be a different user from User:Nick and other similar cases like User:NickD, User:Nickdc, &c. As people can be quite possessive about such short names, it would be quite improper for an admin to act in their own interest in such a case. I grant that they may often get away with such action as the sanctions for tool abuse are weakly enforced but that doesn't make it right. At RfA, a candidate should indicate that they have a good appreciation of WP:INVOLVED and not casually expect to get away with such infractions. Andrew D. (talk) 13:38, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   I have blocked several obvious troll accounts which used usernames impersonating me. Care to take me to ArbCom? 🎄BethNaught (talk)🎄 13:39, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Some details of those cases might help us understand the matter better. Looking through the block log, I can only find User:BathNought who seems to have been blocked primarily for being a sockpuppet. Andrew D. (talk) 14:00, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Given that I was pinged (I don't think that you needed to link user names in this context Andrew :) ), I'll weigh in to say that I agree with my fellow Nick above: admins can, and should, block obvious disruptive impostor accounts pretending to be themselves. From memory, I've blocked someone who - for whatever reason - was pretending to be me. Other admins have also blocked other accounts from people who were doing the same. Obviously this should only occur when it's blindingly obvious that the account was created for malicious purposes - which is why I haven't blocked the various other Nicks listed above. Nick-D (talk) 21:40, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   I fully agree. Users must demonstrate that they are here for constructive editing before an RfA. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 06:40, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

3. Oppose. Giving the admin bit to editors without significant experience of writing content is just plain stupid. Eric Corbett 14:49, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
4. Oppose. An edit history with virtually no significant content building does not prepare an editor well for dealing with content builders. I am underwhelmed by the answers to the questions -- I agree with TheMagnificentist over the personal involvement question; also the answer to Q7 rather misses the point, highlighting the editor's disconnect from the business of content creation. Espresso Addict (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
5. Oppose Three AfD votes and not a single article created over a span of 6 years of editing.--Catlemur (talk) 17:30, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
6. Oppose Not enough content creation experience for me. Sorry. Intothatdarkness 20:03, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
7. Oppose Too many question marks raised from the opposes above. All the best, The Bounder (talk) 20:09, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
8. Oppose k6ka is certainly a valuable member of the Wikipedia community. However, to be a good administrator requires having some experience with making and evaluating content. k6ka has created no articles nor substantially edited any article that I can find. For example, k6ka has edited Reflection (Fifth Harmony album) 84 times, the most of any article, but they are all vandalism reverts. k6ka has virtually no experience in AfD. Thus, contrary to the first nominating statement above, k6ka is not a content gnome. I suggest 6 months of content focused editing and there should be no issues.--I am One of Many (talk) 20:13, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
9. Oppose. Extreme dearth of content edits. I'm not talking about new article creation, I'm talking about content edits, period. The only content editing I see is on Tribu (film), the article the candidate cites in the Q&A, and those content edits were all done in the past two weeks [1], as if for show for this RfA. All other edits across article-space seem to be reversions. There's also a dearth of article talk-page edits, and no participation in dispute resolution (such as ANI or RfCs, etc.). Between the extreme dearth of content edits and AfD participation, and 55,000 automated or semi-automated edits, I just don't feel comfortable giving this candidate the tools. The thing is, nearly every single RfA candidate says they want to work in anti-vandalism, so that's not something we need, as there are many admins and non-admins already working in that area. And the tools are not given out piecemeal. We need admins who have edited content and discussed content policies and guidelines. And admins who know how to resolve conflicts. The fact that the candidate has an admitted aversion to NPP and AfD says to me they are not ready to be given the tools, because we don't give out the tools piecemeal. I thank the candidate for their counter-vandalism work, keep up the good work there, but I do not see a sufficient qualification for, or even need for, the tools. Softlavender (talk) 14:58, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

   Edited to add: I just now reviewed the candidate's Teahouse responses and find him ignorant of the processes of article creation and submission, to the point of giving incorrect advice. He does not appear to adequately know about personal sandboxes or user subpages: [2]; does not know how articles are actually submitted to article-space [3], [4]; and does not know where articles can be requested [5]. My personal advice to this candidate is to spend the next 6 months or so focusing heavily on content-editing and creation (including creating and fully citing at least one full-sized article), participating strongly at AfD, and engaging in some dispute-resolution assistance (e.g. at ANI, WP:DR, WP:RfCs [for the latter can sign up at WP:FR to be notified], etc.), and possibly also assisting with NPP, and then come back and reapply for adminship. Softlavender (talk) 16:19, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

10. Per everyone above me. I don't expect prospective admins to have written huge volumes of timeless prose, but I expect them to have contributed enough to Wikipedia—writing, photography, drawing, scripting, or whatever—that I can feel comfortable that they'll have a degree of empathy with people who become frustrated on seeing their hard work deleted or significantly changed without good reason, and I see no indication at all of this here. Wikipedia has had serious problems in the past with people who've been granted the admin bit in these circumstances setting themselves up as self-appointed wikicops and going on to cause significant disruption but being almost impossible to dislodge, so my willingness to give the benefit of the doubt to those who request advanced permissions without appearing to have the slightest interest in Wikipedia's actual purpose is not high. ‑ Iridescent 17:17, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

    Fortunately, having managed to recently put a ban on a long-term admin causing disruption (with consensus), the community might actually be getting through with the message that admins are not invincible and can be banned or blocked like anyone else if they bugger about too much. Plus a few more opposes will ram this point home. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:19, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

11. Oppose. Moved from neutral, based on review. Kierzek (talk) 17:44, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

    @Kierzek: Could you please explain your rationale for opposing? Thanks. Joshualouie711^talk 17:57, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

    I already mentioned my points of concern in neutral section; lack of content creation and lack of AFD. Kierzek (talk) 18:00, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

12. Oppose mea culpa, I did not check the candidate's user page before voting and the polemic on there about "administrators vs content creators" (particularly the quotation attributed to HighInBC) is a divisive and disruptive drama-fest waiting to happen. I see strong parallels with this RfA and Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Icestorm815 2 (better known these days as Mike V (talk · contribs); you would not believe how many off-wiki complaints I have received about Mike in the last 3-4 months in particular, begging me to do something about it, but I am not going to sit here and let another "us and them" situation erupt. It might take a year or two to flare, but it will happen, and it's divisive, unhelpful and puts real stress on the project. No thanks. Drop the maintenance stuff and try researching and writing an article - you may enjoy it. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:16, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

    It's just stating an opinion. It makes a logical point, that's about it. (Yes, I do agree with that statement). Also, I don't think complaining about another user that has some similarities to the candidate is really that valid of an argument, especially when the other user is a checkuser and oversighter (and k6ka's not really that much like Mike V in personality, as well). ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 20:35, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

13. Oppose I've held off on committing to this for a number of reasons. For one thing, I respect the nominator, xeno, a great deal, and therefore would very much like to support, but I'm not really happy with (nor did I completely understand) the nom's answer to my question. On the other hand, Meta thought enough of the editor to make them a global renamer, but on the other hand, I'm philosophically opposed to the usurpation of what were prerogatives of individual Wikipedias by Meta, nor do I think that the participation there is at a level that their decisions about functionaries can automatically be taken as a recommendation. Content work also seems to be lacking - " fixing typos, some copyediting here and there, adding a source" is all fine, I do the same, but I'm looking for real content work, i.e. creating non-stub articles, greatly expanding articles, taking a badly written or structured article and revamping it into a good, informative, well-written article. It's only by doing work like this that a would-be admin can understand the needs of content editors, which is vital to the reputation of the encyclopedia. As a result, I'm sitting here at oppose (sitting at neutral is just silly, and I rarely do that) unless and until I see further information to change my mind. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:43, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

    User:Beyond My Ken, I'm a little confused on how renaming a global account across all wikis is a prerogative of individual Wikipedias. Could you clarify that? If you just oppose SUL entirely, that train left the station a long time ago, and I'm not sure this is the place to voice your concerns. Also, in Mike's RfA, you opposed because his editing percentages were 46% Main, 47% user talk. Here, it seems that you oppose because the editing percentages are 43%, 43%. We can agree to disagree on the content creation issue, but what are your required pie chart percentage ranges to support? Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 21:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

    I see no conflict between the two opposes. If 46% main is too low, then 43% is too low as well. I have no hard-and-fast line, each nominee is evaluated based on their total package. I believe in one recent "support" I said that I wasn't happy with the editor's article percentage, but, given other factors, I was supporting their nomination. I am, after all, not a robot, I try my best to use my human powers of judgment in determining how to !vote. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:09, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

14. Oppose. We need all kinds of editors and administrators on Wikipedia. I believe that K6ka takes a reasonable stance when it comes to content creation versus adminship, and his sentiments, including the quote from HighInBC, are hardly the polemical, divisive stands others make them out to be. While I am no fan of the self-congratulatory dick waving from the self-styled content creators, I expect an administrator to have a minimal amount of experience with article writing and creation. This editor otherwise appears to be an ideal candidate, so write a couple of new articles and I'll be glad to vote support next time. Gamaliel (talk) 00:20, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
15. Oppose per WP:NOTYET Admin tools are for content creators. Every admin is expected to be able to write articles. Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
16. Oppose Has not created any articles so far, and mainspace edits are mostly reverting vandalism. Try creating and expanding articles, and once you have created enough articles, you may try RfA again. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 04:12, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Neutral

1. Neutral for now and with regret. While I don't see any red flags and they have an impressive record in the fields they have worked in, there are some gaps in areas I expect to see in a candidate's resume., Of particular concern is the dearth of content creation and AfD participation. In an otherwise highly qualified candidate I might be able to overlook one of these, but combined the two leave a big hole in my RfA check list. At the moment I'm not seeing anything that would cause me to outright oppose the RfA, but neither can I pull the support trigger. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:23, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Neutral for now, I will review in further detail soon, but I am bothered by the lack of experience; no content creation and only a very, very few AFD. Kierzek (talk) 23:29, 1 January 2017 (UTC) moving to oppose. Kierzek (talk) 17:43, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

2. Neutral. While I don’t think a large amount of content work is needed as an administrator, the amount with this candidate is so low that I cannot vote to support. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia after all, and if a user wants to seriously contribute here, in any role, I think their contributions should reflect a greater understanding of this. Xeno may have been able to become an administrator with little content work many moons ago, but Wikipedia has changed quite a bit since then. That said, while I agree with the oppose views regarding the lack of content work, the nomination statements and answers to questions are strong and reflect a willingness to work in specific areas of familiarity. K6ka becoming an administrator will not cause Wikipedia to go down in flames. ZettaComposer (talk) 01:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
3. Neutral: As a content creator with close to 1000 articles, there is this extreme attachment I have to my articles that I believe all article creators should also have (maybe not as extreme like mine though). It will make things easier for me if any admin I'm interacting with has had that feeling in the past. Darreg (talk) 10:45, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
4. Neutral (moved from support) I have to change my mind due to lack of content creation and AfD participation, but their other work is good enough for me not to oppose. —MRD2014 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
5. Neutral: Due to the number of oppose votes increasing, and lack of content creation and XFD participation, K6ka becoming an admin is no big deal. KGirlTrucker81 ^{huh? what I've been doing} 17:40, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

   Huh? That statement doesn't make much sense. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 20:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

   @ThePlatypusofDoom: The one that I added an link to the essay but those red flags made me move to neutral. KGirlTrucker81 ^{huh? what I've been doing} 20:54, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

General comments

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• After reviewing the Oppose !votes above, I'm having a hard time understanding how, why, and most especially when new article creation became the sine qua non of admin qualification. Especially when, as is the case here, the admin candidate has both a record of and primary interest in vandal-fighting. K6ka expresses clear interest in not affecting New Pages or AfD. There should be recognition of multiple paths to adminship instead of forcing every RfA into a specific editing resume. To hold them to a standard requiring involvement in those areas they do not wish to affect seems like asking for overreach. It strikes me as nothing wrong with a potential admin who acknowledges their limited interest on improving the project. Indeed, creating notional requirements for accomplishment in many different areas of the project in order to give some-one the admin bit creates a distinct incentive for over-reaching editors trying to comply with such demands. Adminship is not supposed to be a community award of some sort of superuser status; there is a reason it is often called being given the mop. An editor who wants to wikignome their way into removing negative aspects of the project is at least as noteworthy as one that wikidragons their way into adding to it. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:53, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Although I am not opposing this RfA, I will take a shot at answering the question above. I don't think that [xx] amount of content creation or AfD participation should be non-negotiable criteria. But it needs to be remembered that an Admin has all the tools, not just the ones they are planning on using. Whether or not you plan to use them, some of the tools are so commonly associated with the basic things that admins are expected to do from time to time, that you need to know how to use them, just in case. Knowing how to judge an article and what to do if it clearly needs to go is one of those. And that touches on both content creation and AfD. I personally do not expect expertise in any given field. But I do need to see evidence that a candidate has enough knowledge so that if they needed, or chose to get involved with an issue outside of their preferred area of concentration, that they can handle it. We need to remember that once you get the mop your talk page is going to become a magnet for all kinds of people with their own diverse problems. Obscure stuff is perfectly OK to ping another admin but being able to judge a dicey article, is something that I think all admins need to be able to do. Writing as a newly minted admin I can affirm from personal experience that in my one week on the job I've already run into a few things I wasn't expecting. It happens. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

...in my one week on the job I've already run into a few things I wasn't expecting. It happens. To a certain extent, that's kind of my point. I don't understand the general desire expressed in recent RfA's for near-perfect editing resumes when on-the-job learning is a near-universal part of the new admin experience. If this admin candidate has to learn about (say) closing AfD discussions, why is that such a bad thing? They can't break the encyclopedia there unless they really go rogue and there are mechanisms in place even if they do. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:55, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

There's a difference between demanding a perfect resume and asking for some evidence of competence in the most common things that pretty much all admins are expected to be able deal with. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:00, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Oh, obviously. Equally obviously, I suppose, is that I have seem to have an outlier opinion from others on where those standards have been set in recent years.Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 01:14, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Isn't part of RFA determining if a candidate has the community's trust? One element of that would be that we trust the candidate to have enough self-awareness of their personal knowledge (and knowledge gaps) that they don't use tools they aren't comfortable using. We also trust that they have enough of a WP:CLUE to educate themselves in areas where their knowledge is weak (be it through collaboration with other admins or users or through reading policies and prior discussions), should they have to take action in those areas. For example, I would say that being able to put a block in place is a pretty basic administrative activity - but I can't count the number of times I've seen very experienced admins looking for a bit of guidance at ANI in establishing a range block. They know their limitations, get help, and do what they have to do. I'd be willing to wager that way more of those communications happen off-wiki. Perhaps there is merit to being able to get some of the individual tools (such as viewing deleted articles or contribs) piecemeal, but until then I personally feel it's safe to have some faith in the people we trust. PGWG (talk) 01:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

There are two types of permissions groups on these sites: specialized and generalized. Specialized ones include rollback, template editor, CheckUser, etc - they have one main purpose, and you can evaluate candidates based on their ability to perform that main function. Generalized groups are basically admins and stewards - access is granted to a broad range of technical permissions that, for security and community reasons, are not available to all users. I don't think I've seen a candidate for adminship that has experience in absolutely all areas that the toolset encompasses, because by nature it is quite large. What becomes important here isn't specific experience, but transferable skills. Can the candidate easily find policies and interpret them well? Can they keep a level head and deal with conflict in a mature way? Do they have the competence to figure out what user hit a spam blacklist rule through the logs, in the same way that they could use the logs to see when a user was last blocked? Now, experience with the content side is a bit different because that is the "front-facing" side of the project, but I would argue that you could again look for those transferable skills. If the candidate can deal with disputes over renaming in a civil way, then they will most likely be able to do the same on an article talk page. Or at least that's my opinion of it :-) -- Ajraddatz (talk) 01:30, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

• @Eggishorn: new article creation is not the sine qua non for adminship. It isn't even the most common argument in the fairly small oppose section here, several of whom don't even mention it. We have over 5.3 million articles not even 0.1% of which have reached FA status. There is an awful lot to do including a vast amount of content creation that doesn't involve creating new articles. The vast majority of the RFA community have no problem supporting candidates who never create new articles. Opposes for not having created new articles are a new fad, RFA has such things, a while back we had people opposed because of the percentage of automated edits. I suspect this fad too will pass. Insufficient content creation is a different matter and one where this candidate is close to one of the de facto criteria for adminship, hence my question 8. Clearly the candidate has some content contributions, sufficient for many to support but not for others. Having some content contributions has been part of the de facto requirements for admin since the unbundling of Rollback 8 years ago - before then "good vandalfighter" was sufficient to pass RFA. A significant proportion of the community or at least that part of the community who votes at RFA expect that all new admins will have mastered the skill of creating inline citations to reliable sources. A candidate without content contributions won't pass RFA, whether this candidate has sufficient is the main area of disagreement between the Opposers and the Supporters. ϢereSpielChequers 07:57, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm not a big content creator, as I may create stubs also! hehe ;) KGirlTrucker81 ^{huh? what I've been doing} 13:20, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

 Administrator notePer the comments in the oppose section, I have removed the candidate from the "autopatrolled" group. This should in no way be taken as a comment on their suitability for adminship, it was just clearly granted in error. Beeblebrox (talk) 07:05, 3 January 2017 (UTC)