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Christopher X. Brodeur

Just a quick note to inform you that I've temporarily protected this article and performed major surgery on it to remove a massive amount of unsourced and poorly sourced WP:BLP information after the apparent subject of the article raised substantial concerns. I'd appreciate you continued help in keeping an eye on this article. Thanks. Toddst1 (talk) 17:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I will keep an eye out for changes to the article. Alansohn (talk) 18:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

George Taylor Morris

Thanks for starting that article. I went to update his page when I heard of his death, and (as a radio fan) was shocked to find that there wasn't one! I'll see what I can contribute to it. Arakunem^Talk 17:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I remembered when the Dark Side / Oz phenomenon hit and remember him as a DJ from way back when. I had hoped that there would be more sources about him after his death, but there was really only one obituary that was republished in whole or part elsewhere. Any additional expansion would be most helpful. Alansohn (talk) 18:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I would buy

this comic --Cameron Scott (talk) 18:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I will grant that some of it came out humorous. Pick up a copy for me when you get one. Alansohn (talk) 18:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Ozzie Cadena

Number 557 (428 create/expand - 129 nominations)

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WP:DYK 20:14, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Drama!

I was looking for some WP drama. Seems I've found it with you battling it out with an Anon in Massachusetts! Battle on. ;-D - Denimadept (talk) 20:53, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Lynn Pressman Raymond

Number 558 (429 create/expand - 129 nominations)

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King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Pressman Toy Corporation

Number 559 (430 create/expand - 129 nominations)

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King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Michael A. Wiener

Number 560 (431 create/expand - 129 nominations)

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WP:DYK 08:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Awkward CfD rejigger

Hi; see here and then here (same basic nom; same day; just reorganized). You commented in the first, but haven't yet in the second. I thought about just copying your comment in the first and adding it to the debate—but then I thought—I'd maybe better just let you know, in case you want to adjust your previous comment or also add a comment in the rename "section". Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:24, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I have voted on this subject for the third time. Alansohn (talk) 13:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for New Brunswick Marconi Station

Number 561 (431 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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WP:DYK 14:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

False positive

my edit to Bourgeois personality was NOT vandalism. perhaps you were tripped up because of the fact taht I tried to fix the articles problems with vandalism berfore I turned to good editing. Hobgoblein (talk) 04:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Anthony Impreveduto

Hello! Your submission of Anthony Impreveduto at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! orangefreak³³ 17:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas N. Schroth

Number 562 (432 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 08:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Frank D. Schroth

Number 563 (433 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 08:16, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for reverting the profane vandalism made to my userpage!

IRP ☎ has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend, Go on smile! Cheers, and Happy editing!=)
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks for the recognition. Alansohn (talk) 14:24, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

information on admins and edits

thank you for the information but i have another question for you. are the admins contacted after an edit or is there a page for admins which shows the most recent edits and users that changed articles? sorry for the questions but i am just trying to understand the process better so i do not look like an idiot when i make my presentation and i want to be able to present the facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.35.171 (talk • contribs)

Recent edits are tracked and recent vandalism is removed. Alansohn (talk) 14:25, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

NJ General Assembly template

Hi again, I noticed your recent changes to Template:New Jersey General Assembly and was thinking about reversing them; I'd value your input and help. It seems to me that by changing the template so the full names of all the assemblymen are displayed, everything is kind of out of whack. Aesthetically, the template is much more daunting and a little less readable. And for practical purposes, I don't really think the change is necessary. What was your logic behind this change? I generally prefer "last names only" in these sorts of templates, Template:USSenNJ and Template:Current U.S. Senators being good examples. I look forward to your reply. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 20:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I had seen a similar template for another state that had the full names and thought about it after I was looking for a name on the template where I only knew the first name and spent who knows how long looking for it. Despite the time and effort I put in, I was hoping to hear one way or the other and you're the only one whose responded. I have no objection to changing it back and appreciate the feedback and all your NJ-related efforts. Alansohn (talk) 21:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay then...I appreciate the logic of your explanations but I still don't think it's necessary. Part of my thinking here is that people searching for a legislator will more often know the last name and not the first than vice versa. So long as you have no objections, I will change it back to the way it was. Apologies for undoing your time and effort, but I've long liked the way this template was modeled after Template:Current U.S. Senators.

Thanks for the reply, and for all of your NJ-related efforts, which are far more expansive than mine. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 00:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Anthony Impreveduto

Number 564 (434 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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WP:DYK 14:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

On vandalazing

Before you warn me about that might as well ask you why in turn you considered my edits on "May Bukas Pa" as vandalizing? J0-r3L-- 14:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Removal of a section in the article is vandalism, you're gonna tell us that it's not vandalism? Give us a break. Momo san ^Gespräch 14:58, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Refer to the talk page of that article and history of Darna 2009, i've just remove it knowing that ratings are not necessary as what the user who happens to seek your attention has been doing it on the Darna 2009 page it's rival show. Ib elieve that user deleted sections on that page and for that matter i wouuld recommend you to visit the talk page of "May bukas pa" and the history page of Darna 2009 series. Thank you. J0-r3L-- -- 15:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by J0-r3L (talk • contribs)

A consensus needs to be reached by other wikipedia editors before any disputed item in an article can be removed or added. So I suggest you start talking in those talk pages please. Momo san ^Gespräch 15:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Medal

Thank you for bestowing the 100 DYK medal on me. The first 100 have been fun, and I am looking forward to creating my next 100. Although your DYK record is truly phenomenal! Rlendog (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Disagree with block and warning

Hi mate,

What was changed on Chrissie Chau page was not offensive and is being discussed by the media in Hong Kong! Magazines have been reporting on these issues and even Kama Lo who is Chrissie's good friends has stated to the media in Hong Kong that Chrissie has had plastic surgery (the bottom of this site verifies it http://hktopten.blogspot.com/2009/07/20090721-maggie-siu-pairs-up-with.html). It is a shame u guys cannot read cantonese, but what i have editied is the definitely being discussed in HK right now by the media! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.81.251.249 (talk) 07:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Kenneth Bacon

Hello again. Great catch on Ken Bacon, and thanks for adding him to the Exeter alumni list. Best regards, MarmadukePercy (talk) 04:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK problem - Marcey Jacobson

Hello! Your submission of Marcey Jacobson at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Your edit summary...

...leaves a bit to be desired. Can you make it more explicit? (AWB doesn't seem to properly paste the replacement in the edit summary for you) –xeno^talk 21:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

It does look like nothing is changing, but what is happening is that there is a piped link in the edit summary that makes it look unchanged. I will see what I can do to have a more descriptive summary included in such cases. Alansohn (talk) 21:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I see the change. Normally AWB would give an indication on what is being replaced, for some reason, it's not doing it here. Uncheck "Add replacements to edit summary" And type it explicitly (if you have many more to do). –xeno^talk 21:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I will test alternate summaries for greater clarity. Alansohn (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Zululand

Most of your changes are now ungrammatical. Zululand is an area - a land. "Zulu Kingdom" does not parse as a replacement. 'He entered Zulu Kingdom' - WTF ?? Zululand is the correct word. Can you undo all that ? Wizzy…☎ 06:28, 19 August 2009 (UTC) Sorry - I misread. Wizzy…☎ 06:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Anne Wexler

Number 566 (436 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 22:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jimmy Bedford

Number 567 (437 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 22:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Mark Rosenzweig

Number 568 (438 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 10:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Ira Black

Number 569 (439 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Orlady (talk) 11:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Marcey Jacobson

Number 570 (440 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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So Why 17:00, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Al Purvis

Hello! Your submission of Al Purvis at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ✍ 20:57, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Alansohn. You have new messages at Goldstream, British Columbia's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

FYI as you've recently edited the article Goldstream, British Columbia, and an IP keeps adding an unsourced story. Rosiestep (talk) 00:11, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jack T. Kirby

Number 571 (441 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 11:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Kenneth Bacon

Number 572 (442 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 03:14, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Help request

Can you tell me how to recreate this map? (What link to start with, what to click when I get there, etc.} I want to do it for a town article I'm working on. Thanks in advance! wadester 16 00:38, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

New Symbols chart for the GD&T article

Oleg_Alexandrov, Lothartklein, Wizard191, Gzyeah, Zz9fy4, Legobot, Mdd, Alansohn, Seddon, Charles Matthews , Mike Martin:

You are some of the people, recent and old, who have edited or provided comments for the GD&T article. Please take a look at this new version of the Symbols chart, and provide any input you deem relevant:

Talk:Geometric_dimensioning_and_tolerancing#Symbols_chart.3B_new_candidate_to_replace_the...

LP-mn (talk) 00:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Viner

Number 573 (443 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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NW (Talk) 11:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Michael Viner

Just to let you know that I nominated Michael Viner for DYK here. Best,--Arxiloxos (talk) 04:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I had planned to expand the article but an unexpectedly lengthy wikibreak left me disappointed that the article would not make DYK. Thanks for the nomination and expansion of a fascinating and relevant subject. Alansohn (talk) 22:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Need a valued opinion

Alansohn, I need a trusted editor's opinion (such as yourself) on an issue regarding what to include in Villanova University's template. Please see the template's talk page for the discussion I've opened up regarding the matter. Thanks in advance. Jrcla2 ^talk 19:40, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Deletion Review for Alan Roger Currie article

Thank you for your objective and thorough comments Alansohn. Very much appreciated. Chicago Smooth (talk) 02:01, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

List of counties in New Jersey

Hi there. After working on it, I've nominated List of counties in New Jersey at FLC (which can be found here). Seeing as you've made the second-most edits to the page, feel free to add yourself as a nominator. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 02:47, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I tweaked the article's population numbers and seconded the nomination. Thanks for your work on the article. Alansohn (talk) 03:27, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to add you as a nominator, if you're OK with that. Also, don't feel obligated to help with any issues that may come up; There shouldn't be too many, and I don't have much else I'm obligated to do on Wikipedia. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 11:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at WikiProject New Jersey

Hi, Alansohn, User:Nightscream and I had a disagreement over certain parts of NJ municipality articles; because the discussion could potentially affect hundreds of articles, we decided to bring the discussion to WikiProject New Jersey. I would value your input in the discussion, which you can find here. Thanks, A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 14:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK question

Hey Alan, it's Hunter Kahn, you gave me the 25 DYK medal some time ago and encouraged me to keep working on those (which I appreciate by the way!). I had a question that I figured you probably knew the answer to. If I'm not mistaken, there's a site on Wikipedia that keeps track of all the recently created new WIkipedia articles that are of a certain size that it may or may not warrant a DYK. Do you know of such a page and can you refer me to it? Thanks! — Hunter Kahn _(c) 16:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Atlantic County Freeholders template

Due to the dicussion on the templates, I was taking a look at the others and noticed that Template:NJ Atlantic County Freeholders is wrong. Atlantic has a mix of 4 At-large and 5 District Freeholders on their Board [1] and might also need different handling in the same way you suggest Hudson County towns be handled. I am not sure how the formatting should be done to reflect the actual make-up of the Board. For the sake of consistency, maybe you could make changes to the template so it reflects what is written at Atlantic_County,_New_Jersey#Government_and_politics. Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me} 16:55, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The AC template has been updated. It's not perfect, but it does reflect the districts and the latest memebers and term end dates. I will address further at the discussion at WPNJ. Alansohn (talk) 20:59, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Al Purvis

Number 574 (444 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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— Jake Wartenberg 11:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for William Emerson (journalist)

Number 575 (445 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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NW (Talk) 17:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Cass City Public Schools

The article on the Cass City Public Schools seems to include several schools that are not part of the district and a bunch of schools that I can't find anywhere. The article for Novesta-Grant Elementary describes a school for which I can find no evidence that it even exists. The Catholic schools in the community are not listed on the school district's website, and in the U.S. would not be part of the school district. The total numbers for the school don't match the stats from NCES. Can you take a look at this and reply on my talk page? Alansohn (talk) 02:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your vigilance on this matter. Looking back through the page history I see that another editor has also expressed concerns over the factual accuracy and created a cleaner version to which I have reverted. The articles on Cass City Northern Jr. High, Elkland Elementary, Novesta-Grant Elementary are all suspect. Unless an explanation is forthcoming quickly from the creator I will delete all three as hoaxes. TerriersFan (talk) 03:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree on the suspicions regarding these three articles in question and on the revert for the district article. This editor has not responded to requests for information and I wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something. Alansohn (talk) 03:29, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Football (soccer) people by century CfD

I've added a new comment to the discussion that you will probably want to reply to. Thanks. – Pee Jay 09:51, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Barn Star

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For tirelessly reverting vandalism...and beating me to it. :)

Thanks for the recognition! Alansohn (talk) 15:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Jordan Wu

Nobody loves this poor poor soul. This is his cry for help, or in the words of Gary Larson, Helf.

We all need a bit of helf every now and then. Alansohn (talk) 15:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

question

what did i do wrong i added on more about the soup all of it was true why should i be blocked

Please review your edits which were non-constructive. Alansohn (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

For reverting the rather immature vandalism to my user and talk pages.--UltraMagnus (talk) 18:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

It's the least I can do for any other editor. I can't say it was my pleasure, but we need to watch each other's backs. Alansohn (talk) 15:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Please take care with disambiguation

Hi, please take care with your disambiguations for "Pahlavi". All the ones I happened to see [2][3][4][5][6][7][8] were incorrect. The last one is even "disambiguated" to an article that doesn't exist. -- Fullstop (talk) 18:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I have tried to be as careful as I can based on my understanding of the subject. I will be more careful and will review the entries I have already changed. Alansohn (talk) 19:31, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I've fixed those. Those are only three uses of the term that you are likely to run across: If the context is an inscription, the term is referring to Pahlavi script. If the context is language, its speaking of a special kind of Middle Persian (specifically, Zoroastrian Middle Persian). If the context is a monarch/monarchy, its Pahlavi dynasty. -- Fullstop (talk) 19:41, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the corrections to clean up my mess. I am gaining further understanding from my reading and your input. Alansohn (talk) 19:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the trouble to unravel that mess. Give me a nudge if you need help. -- Fullstop (talk) 19:59, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Another thing: if you run across something that looks a strange-looking jumble of consonants (a non-alphabetical transcription) – like 'šmšyl' – its a transcription of Pahlavi script. Those won't occur often though. -- Fullstop (talk) 22:01, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for your guidance. Alansohn (talk) 22:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

DKY question

I once saw you listed at the top of a register of individuals with >25 DKY's. Can you point me to that list/page?Historicist (talk) 00:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Replied on user tak page. Alansohn (talk) 00:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

You replied with two section headers, you silly newbie.--brew crewer (yada, yada) 01:05, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Happens all the time that I make a stupid mistake, as we all do. I left a comment AND pasted in the heading. I thank you for your efforts to find a middle ground for Historicist. Once you get caught up in wikipolitics and you've pissed off an admin or two, often for violations you don't really understand in the beginning, those allegations will be used ad infinitum. My own experience is enough to prove the point and I wish I had known what Historcist was going through to offer my sad case as a warning. Alansohn (talk) 01:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm proud to help great editors like Historicist. Btw, you continued editing but have not corrected the double header.--brew crewer (yada, yada) 01:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. My bad. Alansohn (talk) 01:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

dab on Song of Songs not correct.

You did not properly include the ]] on the Guggenheim dab. I'll fix it.Naraht (talk) 01:32, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for my mistake. When I set up the dab I didn't include the closing double square brackets. This will be corrected. Thanks for catching my clear error. Alansohn (talk) 01:34, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Hare coursing article

I have redone two of my edits to the hare coursing article.

1) the use of the word "Bloodsport" is a political term used by animal rights campaigners and has no place in an article on a sport. In fact this article was originally written by Mikehoby who is a former employee of The League Against Cruel Sports and therefore the article itself is peppered with extreamly biased material.

2) There is no legislation or court ruling in any of the individual states of the United States of American that disputes the legality of coursing in that jurisdiction. The reference given in the article pretaining to any doubts of the legality of coursing in the United States of America is from an animal rights group; this is not a valid legal opinion.

Jaquesdemolay92 (talk) 23:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I will review the circumstances of my reverts. Please be careful to include a clear and concise edit summary for all edits and be extra careful to explain removal of content. Alansohn (talk) 01:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Lucky Lady II

Number 576 (446 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 23:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Ridge A

Number 577 (447 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 05:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hugh Hefner

I noticed you reverted the death dates on this page. Good catch. I was just about to do that myself but I was doing a quick google search to make sure it wasn't true. Cheers. --Kumioko (talk) 19:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I guess I checked CNN a little quicker than you did. Keep up the great work on your part. Alansohn (talk) 22:34, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for George William Beatty

Number 578 (448 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 18:28, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Arthur L. Welsh

Number 579 (449 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 18:28, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Its the Cookie Monster (talk) has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!

Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

Thanks for the cookie. Alansohn (talk) 02:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Martyn_Godfrey

Hi! I made a page about an author named Martyn_Godfrey. Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyn_Godfrey. Could you please edit the page? Thanks!Neptunekh

I'll check it and improve it if I can. Alansohn (talk) 02:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for reverting vandalism to my user pages Maen. K. A. (talk)

You're welcome. Alansohn (talk) 02:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

why are you reverting changes?

Dude I am an actual students that attends Turner Fenton whereas you Don't. So obvoisuly i have a much more up to date info than you so therefore you causing vandalism by removing information that is accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.91.84 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia needs reliable sources. Alansohn (talk) 02:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

being accused of vanalism is a serious charge especially when my statements are true

i may be unfamiliar with your exact process of posting as i stated but vandal i am not. the things i spoke about couldn't be denied under oath. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sing51074 (talk • contribs)

Reliable sources are needed to support the claims made. Alansohn (talk) 02:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

two articles on si.com derek jeter interviewed

he denied knowing minka. and had to do a second interview in which he stated ther interviewer had to listen to what he said. the interviewer accused him of lying about even knowing minka. he still never acknowledge her as his girlfriend the second time around.si.com 2008,2009:o) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sing51074 (talk • contribs)

The sources need to be verifiable and added to the article itself. Alansohn (talk) 02:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Harrison Ford

What I wrote was true, there are reports of his death, so he is possibly dead! Check google. Have a nice day ! Cheers! I give you Barnstar!

The reports have been greatly exaggerated. Alansohn (talk) 02:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

re:emerecy

hi,i just wanna show my teacher what that do and testing it like i am patroling it sorry for the mistake —Preceding unsigned comment added by Berendale1 (talk • contribs)

Vandalism is vandalism. Alansohn (talk) 02:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Aves

Hello, I referenced my article edits the Aves Island. Dominica's claim is complete in 2006, no longer corresponds to a disputed island infobox. Greetings.Cêsar (talk) 23:57, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. Please provide a clear summary for all edits and a more detailed summary when removing content to avoid problems in the future. Alansohn (talk) 23:58, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Spinrad

Number 580 (450 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 00:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for George Taylor Morris

Number 565 (435 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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EncycloPetey (talk) 02:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC) 04:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

thank you for recognisingn the of brave irish citizens that fought against the german forces during the first world war ( north and south as you like to illegitimately call it) . if only men of your ilk would remember their forefathers !?!?!?!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.47.0 (talk) 22:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Nat Adderley, Jr.

Number 581 (451 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Joe Ferriero

Hi Alansohn, given you created this article I thought you would be interested in seeing this news citation. I tagged the article as unreferenced but I don't have time right now to do much more with it. Regards, Accurizer (talk) 11:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The current article is unreferenced, but only because it gutted completely what I had created in the first place. Alansohn (talk) 11:45, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Albert L. Gordon

Number 582 (452 create/expand - 130 nominations)

On September 16, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Albert L. Gordon, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page _{(here's how)} and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 19:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Guacamole reciepe

Are you implying they dont put salt in Guacamole, because lemme tell you, I used to work down at the Taco Bell and they put salt in it. 92.8.246.55 (talk) 22:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

A favor

Would you put this new article up? The proper name would be Migdal Synagogue thanks Historicist (talk) 23:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

OK?! Any issue I can help with? Alansohn (talk) 01:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Lou Bender

Number 583 (453 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 01:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Hyderabad Police

You reverted changes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyderabad_City_Police. A List articles supporting my claim existing, you check http://apstatepoliceweekly.wordpress.com/ ( a consolidated list for one month August 2009).

This source appears to be a blog. Reliable and verifiable sources to support the claim must be included in the article to support the claim being made. Alansohn (talk) 11:41, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Adolescence#Image debate: Image:A boy in the mirror.jpg vs. Image:Adolescentboy.jpg.

Hello, Alansohn. I am more familiar with your name than your editing work. But I know that you are very much respected here at Wikipedia. And because of your experience on Wikipedia, I am asking...will you respond here? I need a sufficient number of opinions about this matter. I am the main person editing this article, as well as the main person keeping it free of vandalism. The talk page is not active. I have asked some other editors to respond on this matter as well, but I am not sure how many of them will show up to do so. Any assistance you can provide on this would be much appreciated. Flyer22 (talk) 06:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

209.175.156.19 is vandalising --Der Künstler (talk) 17:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Carl Hovde

Number 584 (454 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 01:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for George Gregory (basketball)

Number 585 (455 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 07:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Notification

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DYK for Migdal Synagogue

Number 586 (456 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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BorgQueen (talk) 04:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Alfred Gottschalk (Rabbi)

Number 587 (457 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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BorgQueen (talk) 10:08, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism revert

Thank you so much for reverting my talk pages! I'm really glad that you did it, because it was pretty embarrasing:D

I hope there's more people like you out there. Thank you again, Saebjorn! 04:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

It was the least I can do. No problem. Alansohn (talk) 19:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Anti-vandalism barnstar

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Your efforts have been recognized and appreciated (your name seems to pop up on my watchlist for reverting vandalism more than any other) ;) œ ^™ 22:50, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the recognition! Alansohn (talk) 19:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Fictional characters in alumni cats

So, since when did we start putting fictional characters in school alumni categories? Seems bizarre and I've never seen it done before. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 12:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

No, no—don't change the definition necessarily ... I was getting excited because I thought you'd now spent enough hours at CfD that you've internalized its mindset and I would be able to formally welcome you into the "bizarro world" that I always see you referencing! Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 12:52, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

So, on a more serious note—what say you about this issue? Shall I go ahead and change it to real people only? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:57, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

There are additional fictional alums, and if there are sources to back that up, I don't see why they should not be included. Is there any policy that prohibits it? Alansohn (talk) 19:08, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure—I'll look into it though and let you know. I know there has been a general practice not to mix real and fictional people in the same categories. It might be something worth raising at Wikipedia talk:Categorization, which I might do if I can't find anything. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 21:57, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I started a discussion here to try to get a feel for what other users think about this. As noted there, I could not find any policy or guideline that was directly on point, though there are some hints at WP:COP. It probably hasn't been seriously mooted before. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:10, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

September 2009

The edit in question reverted vandalism by another user. Please see this edit which is the one I reverted. Alansohn (talk) 19:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the warning - we both tried to change my user talk page vandalism at the same time, and so there was a mix-up! Thanks for removing the vandalism on my page -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 19:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Henry S. Coleman

Number 588 (458 create/expand - 130 nominations)

On September 21, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Henry S. Coleman, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page _{(here's how)} and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 22:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism?

Wait what? I did not do that edit. I'd never do such shallow griefing and especially not abuse such a useful and educational article. Might there be someone acting in my place? A Trojan? Or is it perhaps a wikipedia bug? I never even visited aforementioned article before. --78.145.241.214 (talk) 23:43, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Rational egoism

I have asked User:131.118.39.105 to discuss rather than edit war.--Buster7 (talk) 23:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Defining

We can start a discussion re: establishing a definition of "defining" as soon as you like—no need to wait for others to end. Make a proposal and it will be discussed. I have not been able to formulate a proposal of a "positive" definition that I agree with, otherwise I would propose something. I have plenty of ideas about "negative" definitions, but as I recall you weren't enthusiastic about that approach, so perhaps you should get the ball rolling with what you have in mind. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:16, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

The other discussion has petered out, if that's what you were waiting for. Are you going to start the desired discussion about a proposal for "defining"? Is your silence a "no"? Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 05:59, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Let the defining discussion begin. Alansohn (talk) 23:01, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Sweet; though I think I jumped the gun on saying the other one petered out. I didn't realise there was more that would be said. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:28, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism?

How was this vandalism? And for the record, if you can have me blocked for "vandalism," what is the penalty of accusing someone indiscriminantly of vandalism? this edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.165.67.131 (talk • contribs)

I am not sure why I reverted this edit as I had seen the WSJ article that talks about the tax issues. The warning will be removed with my sincerest apologies. Alansohn (talk) 19:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Coincidence?

Dear Alan: I have noticed what appears to be a disturbing degree of coincidence in our editing topics. I hope you are not stalking my edits. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 22:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC) Btw: Did you attend Abraham Lincoln H.S. (Brooklyn)?

No to both questions. I've sort of adopted Brooklyn as a topic of cleanup. There are 2,000 articles that should be subdivided in Category:People from Brooklyn alone. We both participate at CfD, and in your past 500 edits I see few articles in common other than Lou Bender and Abraham Lincoln High School (plus a few others), but I edited both of those before you did. Perhaps you're stalking me? Alansohn (talk) 23:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I guess seeing your name so often at the Lincoln High School page (which is on my watchlist) and at so many AFDs is what made me get a little paranoid. Sorry. No offense. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 01:29, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for reverting the mal-edits made by 163.153.100.132. The district has reported that they have identified the student, and have taken appropriate actions to help insure that this will not re-occur. --NERIC-Security (talk) 12:49, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Rippowam High School

I'm just a tad curious as to why you reverted my edit to the talk page on Rippowam High School. The WP:Schools tag seemed totally appropriate for the page, and the information originally on the talk page seemed much better suited for the article itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sofa jazz man (talk • contribs)

I had a bad feeling as soon as I reverted and I sincerely apologize for my error. The warning will be removed. Alansohn (talk) 01:04, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

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New Jersey's 1927 biannual elections proposal

I've been meaning to write this for a long time. If you have any thoughts on the content, or on additional sourcing, they'd be very welcome. Wehwalt (talk) 14:39, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Wehwalt, it's a great article, very well done. I'll take a look at the article and see if any more can be done. Alansohn (talk) 14:46, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2022 Newsletter error

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Converting links to use {{URL}}

Hi @Alansohn. I am @Archer1234. I have noticed several of your recent edits to the biography pages for current and former members of the New Jersey Assembly. In particular, I noticed that you are converting links in the infobox for the website, Jamel Holley for example, from |website=[http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/BIO.asp?Leg=374 Legislative Website] to |website={{URL|http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/BIO.asp?Leg=374}}.

With {{URL}} if the URL contains an equals sign, as is common in a query string, the parameter |1= should be used for the URL ({{URL|1=example.com}}).

If you don't use the |1= format, you will see an error message in "Show preview" mode that looks similar to this:

Preview warning: Page using Template:URL with unknown parameter "http://www.njleg.state.nj..."

and after you publish your edits, the page will get added to the Category:Pages using URL template with unknown parameters maintenance category. I monitor that category, which is how I came to find your recent edits.

By the way, some of the links you are converting are dead because the assembly no longer provides legislative web pages for members through the "BIO.asp" link. If the person is an existing member, you can search to find their new legislative web page here: https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/legislative-roster. Unfortunately, I have not found an equivalent for former members, so those links probably should be marked as a {{dead link}} or, perhaps, replaced with an archived copy from archive.org. — Archer1234 (talk) 05:14, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Archer1234, thanks for reaching out. I will check these links and update as necessary, taking all of your input now and going forward. Alansohn (talk) 05:41, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Coin

I'll begin answering your query with one of my own; is userify a word? Infactinteresting (talk) 17:18, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Infactinteresting, no, but when I see it I read "move an article that's in mainspace and convert it into a draft version in user space". It's not a word, but it's unambiguous as to what's happening. I can't say the same for "location". Alansohn (talk) 20:57, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
I understand you have a certain focus in editing (one of the areas is NJ). Not seeing another way of talking with you and not accustomed to conversations here. Wouldn't object to being on projects with which you're involved. Maybe you'll start a web site somewhere, I'll likely see if it you do.Infactinteresting (talk) 00:30, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Infactinteresting, talk pages are the standard means of communication here on Wikipedia. Edit summaries are intended to be explanations of your edits, and while some edit summaries will inevitably be inadequate, the use of cryptic single-word edit summaries is probably not helpful. For that matter, the use of the single word "Coin" as a titlefor this section appears meaningless. Alansohn (talk) 03:27, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

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Lakeland Regional High School, Wanaque, NJ

Listen boss, unless you went to wasteland between 1990-1999 stay off my edit. These are first hand accounts from the high school. if you have an issue we can always find a time to have a meeting. Jersey3172 (talk) 13:29, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Jersey3172, these unsourced recollections of various details in the school's history are the very definition of the kind of original research that is excluded on Wikipedia. Sources are required to make sure that encyclopedic content is verifiable. Perhaps these reminiscences would best be posted to a Facebook page? Alansohn (talk) 13:32, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
Ill find your Fing source douch. The Bergen Record or Suburban Times has it in there archives. Sorry but you dont know anything about Ringwood or Wanaque and you didnt live it it so BACK OFF!!!!!! Jersey3172 (talk) 13:39, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
@Jersey3172 please stay civil--there isn't any need to get angry and insult others over this matter. TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 13:42, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
It hard when people are trying to silence the people whoi had there civil rights violated and that were present during these events and the cover ups that followed. My parents spent years and years in politics in RIngwood so I know alot. Like when all the kids were killed in the Mine Area due to a Ringwood Cop back in the 70's. Im like a pandoras box of information i have from my parents no one want out there. I will speak for all of us that were injured mentally or psychologically while attending lakeland regional. Jersey3172 (talk) 13:51, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

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I understand, and I even do recognition and memory of it for my own sake. Doing the round first thing on a day and seeing how much to be thankful for is a good weapon against the miseries you sometimes encounter ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors 2022 Annual Report

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Barbara Stanley (psychologist)

Hi @Alansohn! Thanks for adding the categories to Barbara Stanley (psychologist). I saw your revert of my edit and realized I never included a summary. My instinct was to cut down some categories as I was worried it might be getting clustered WP:OVERCAT. However, if you feel they should all stay, I am happy to concur. Obviously wanted to avoid any more reverts without reaching consensus. Thanks again! Ppt91 (talk) 19:42, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Ppt91, understood. Which categories were at issue in this article? Alansohn (talk) 19:43, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
@Alansohn It seemed to me that Category:20th-century American academics, Category:People from Chatham Borough, New Jersey, and Category:20th-century American psychologists were a bit redundant (I thought for New Jersey, it'd make most sense to do just Newark and her impact as an academic was primarily in the 21st century). Let me know your thoughts! Ppt91 (talk) 19:57, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Bob Scrabis (basketball)

I assumed the huge content deletion was a mistaken edit conflict. Let me know if it was not.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:55, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

TonyTheTiger, my apologies for my error. I must not have realized that the article was being edited and that changes were being made. Do you want me to reinsert the content? Again, sorry, this was my mistake. Alansohn (talk) 19:33, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

No problem. Already reinserted.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

TonyTheTiger, again my apologies for my carelessness and my thanks for your efforts in creating this article. Alansohn (talk) 19:55, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

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Stanley & Ronald Dancer were indeed residents of New Egypt NJ and grew up there

Stanley & Ronald Dancer were indeed residents of New Egypt NJ and both grew up on their homestead in that township. The homestead is now apart of Laurita Winery. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU UNDO MY EDITS SIR. Please reinstate my edits Lagunakayaker (talk) 07:56, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2023 March newsletter

So ends the first round of the 2023 WikiCup. Everyone with a positive score moved on to Round 2, with 54 contestants qualifying. The top scorers in Round 1 were:

Unlimitedlead with 1205 points, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with two featured articles on historical figures and several featured article candidate reviews.
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Removing links before blacklisting vs after

According to the instructions for requesting blacklist, we're supposed to remove all the links from article space before the blacklisting, not after. This is a case where 20 or so sockpuppets were involved in adding links to an unreliable source. MrOllie (talk) 14:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

MrOllie, you have been repeatedly removing content and sources, including valid sources. This edit to the article for New Jersey not only removes the source you claim is a problem, but it also removed the sourced material and a reference from the Associated Press. If you must --and only if you must -- delete the sources; but fix the problems you have created, either by finding new sources or tagging the material, and please stop the sloppy deletions of material and valid sources. Alansohn (talk) 15:03, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Princeton IS now a town, not a borough

Princeton, New Jersey has been a town (and no longer a borough) since the merger of township and borough in 2011. Harborsparrow (talk) 14:25, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Harborsparrow, no, it's a borough; it isn't a town. Per this source (and I could find a thousand others saying the same thing), "As of January 1, 2013, Princeton borough and township became one Princeton, using the borough form of government." Alansohn (talk) 14:31, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

It may be using a borough form of government, but it is CALLED a town to prevent confusion with the previous existing borough whose borders were very different Take it from someone who lives there.Harborsparrow (talk) 14:40, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Harborsparrow, I can't take it from someone who lives there, because that's the very definition of a Wikipedia:No original research violation. Alansohn (talk) 15:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

While you're being ridiculous, I see your point. Just be aware that no one says "Princeton Borough" without meaning the prior inner town government. They mostly just say "Princeton", and if pressed, I'm sure most people would characterize it as a "town" rather than a "city". The article opener avoids the issue by saying "municipality". But saying "the town of Princeton" is simply not wrong. Harborsparrow (talk) 15:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

And double-checking, the town website itself calls it a "municipality", also avoiding the issue. But in real life, no normal person walks around using words like "I live in the municipality of Princeton." They say just Princeton, or informally, town of Princeton, as an indication of its size, not some legal meaning. The point is, Princeton is also not a "borough"; it merely adopted the form of government that the former Princeton Borough had.Harborsparrow (talk) 15:55, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Harborsparrow, I agree that there is potential confusion that the old Princeton Borough and Princeton Township merged to form the new Princeton, which happens to be a borough. Yes, people in Princeton may fight city hall, but it's not a city. And they may like the village downtown, but it's not a village. And the fact that it's the size of a town, whatever that means, does not make it a town. Call it a borough or a municipality or just call it Princeton, but it's not the "town of Princeton" as you wrote in this edit. Alansohn (talk) 17:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Oxford E.Dictionary says a town is "an urban area that has a name, defined boundaries, and local government, and that is generally larger than a village and smaller than a city". By what stretch of the imagination you consider it wrong to call Princeton a town is invisible to the rest of us. Harborsparrow (talk) 17:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

And furthermore, you could have simply removed the word "town" if if bothers you. There was no need to revert the entire edit. You wrote: "v chgs; claims re poor cell reception are all unsourced opinion. Princeton is a borough (not a town); even the details about the ridge are based on interpreting maps with the unspecified "right settings". You could also have flagged those assertions as needing a reference, which BTW I have now provided. You are getting argued with here because I feel you completely over-reacted.Harborsparrow (talk) 17:38, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

The heading of this discussion states that "Princeton IS now a town, not a borough" and you started off by stating that "Princeton has been a town (and no longer a borough) since the merger of township and borough". What you stated, rather definitively, is that Princeton affirmatively changed to become a town, yet you have never provided a source to support the assertion. Providing the OED definition of a town doesn't explain how Princeton changed from being a borough to being a town, and furthermore, it can apparently never have been a borough, because the only options allowed by the OED are village, town and city. I have provided a rather clear source showing that Princeton IS a borough, and I can provide as many more to support the claim. Alansohn (talk) 22:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Nicholas Sacco

Alan, regarding this edit, thanks for pointing out that that Democrats for Life cite deserved more scrutiny. I didn't look as closely as its language as I should have. However, that other source that you restored (this one) makes no mention of Sacc, and when I tried to find something via Google on his abortion views to replace it, I couldn't find anything. Please advise. Nightscream (talk) 21:22, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Nightscream, I looked in more detail at the source about the bill and I agree with you. May I suggest that we remove both from the article. Neither is the kind of source that would be useful to show where he stands on the issue. Let me know. Alansohn (talk) 21:58, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
The source does include mention of Roll Call of Nicholas Sacco, where a vote is marked as yes. Please scroll all the way down and click roll call. Hansenxyz (talk) 22:23, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Sacco is in the senate for NJ, so it would make sense that it would only show up in the Senate Assembly meeting: Sen. 01/10/2022 - 3RDG FINAL PASSAGE Hansenxyz (talk) 22:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Hansenxyz, this one vote on one bill hardly represents his stance on the entire issue. Alansohn (talk) 22:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

I say, just leave it in the fact that he voted for the bill (which entirely relevant to an article on a politican), without synthesizing any ideas about his overall stance on abortion. Nightscream (talk) 00:54, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

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Iazyges (1040) with three FAs on Byzantine emperors, and lots of bonus points.
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Accidentally rollbacked you

Sorry, I really shouldn't be trying to click before I've had my coffee. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:35, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Premeditated Chaos, we all make mistakes. Being insufficiently caffeinated is one of them. Say (and then drink) three Hail Espressos and all is forgiven. Alansohn (talk) 22:45, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Gerrittsen Beach

Why revert George Broadhead? Guyver8400 (talk) 02:46, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Guyver8400, no evidence of notability. The George Broadhead added in this edit is not the individual described in the edit. Alansohn (talk) 02:51, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
You are 100% correct. THANK YOU for keeping me in check! Guyver8400 (talk) 02:52, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Disregard --Guyver8400 (talk) 02:51, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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North of the Alps

Thanks for this. One day I want to do an article on this important cultural division, but.... Johnbod (talk) 20:00, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Johnbod, I look forward to the article.... Alansohn (talk) 20:37, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Question

Hello, my friend. Hope all's well. How did we leave things as it relates to when a U.S. Census Bureau population or summary is too dated for inclusion? I'm still encountering many pages that include 2020, 2010, 2000, and (sometimes) even 1990 data. Happy to handle this however you see fit, but hope you'll consult some other states for guidance. These seem excessively historic and redundant. The additional information from 2010 or 2000 is largely repetitious and doesn't convey any notable changes or anything encyclopedic. Keystone18 (talk) 22:00, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Keystone18, thanks for reaching out. The consensus that has been worked out is to compare 2020 to 2010 and 2000 in the lead. The last of the mentions in the lead of the 1990 census were finally removed earlier today from the articles for New Jersey municipalities. Every article for a municipality in New Jersey has 2020 data (with sources) in the infobox for population, area and density, as well as rankings for all three; the 2022 census estimate data has also been added to every article in the state. Most other states are very far behind.
In the body, the consensus is to keep a pair of detailed census data for comparison purposes. Most articles have 2010 and 2000 data, the last of which -- as you have often pointed out -- is 22 years old. When User:Ram-Man (with the help of his Rambot) created the stub articles for most places nationwide more then two decades ago, he was able to download static tables and pages that had all of the 2000 census data in one place and that could be readily combined and loaded. Other editors and I were able to duplicate this in many ways in 2010.
But, the Census Bureau has made this task much harder for 2020. The data can't be extracted as easily and the pages are dynamic. Articles like the one for Kinnelon, New Jersey refer to links for 2019 data that worked four years ago, but show the latest data now. I and other editors have been working to develop a mechanism to extract this 2020 data, combine all the pieces, load it to all of the articles and then -- and only then -- remove the 2000 census data sections. I hope that this approach makes sense and that we can get it implemented as quickly as possible. Alansohn (talk) 22:56, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Berlin

Hello, I made the Berlin NJ change based on the sign in the photo saying the first settlers were there in 1714. TiMike (talk) 22:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

TiMike, I don't see that sign, but there's always a question of what do when a place was settled on same date and then formally established at some later time. Berlin Borough was established in 1927 from Berlin Township, which was established in 1910 from Waterford Township, which was established in 1695. So when people settled in 1714, was that in Waterford Township, Berlin Township or Berlin Borough? And what about the fact that Berlin Borough wasn't created until 1927? Should there be categories for both 1714 and 1927? Alansohn (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
I should have been more clear. The sign I was referring to was on the borough website:

https://www.berlinnj.org/

To me, a populated place is established when at least 1 person lives there. That apparently happened in 1714. I do agree that 1927 establishments in New Jersey is also appropriate because that's when it was officially a borough.

To me its ok either way, but that's my take.

TiMike (talk) 00:52, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:USCensusDemographics

Template:USCensusDemographics has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Mikeblas (talk) 14:24, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Sea of blue

Please actually read WP:SEAOFBLUE, which clearly shows that we do NOT split placenames down into their constituent parts e.g. [[Buffalo, New York]], NOT [[Buffalo, New York|Buffalo]], [[New York (state)|New York]] - and you might also want to remove the duplicate "in" that you keep reinstating - Arjayay (talk) 21:58, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Arjayay, I have learned to always watch out for people who make false claims and misread what policies state. Unlike as stated in SEAOFBLUE, the city and state are *NOT* linked next to each other. Please read the policy for yourself, understand what it says and apply it appropriately. Alansohn (talk) 22:01, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

I think this edit of Alansohn's (excluding the typo) was a definite improvement over how the sentence was worded previously, and I find Arjayay's version a bit confusing to the reader—New Jersey being separated in this case adds the clarity that it goes on all of the above locations. Further, I agree with Alansohn that the sentence is in full compliance with SEAOFBLUE, since no links are inappropriately adjoining each other, even in his version. I also found the link to U.S. state to be a net positive. StonyBrook _babble 03:35, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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Freehold High School

Greetings, Alansohn. Do you have citation or more info for the "Established 1932" date in opening paragraph? I see a 1971 article suggesting 1925 "present location" date. County Archives have dates that suggest a little later. Just trying to clear-up for 2023 graduating class member(s) who have been believing they're the 100th graduating class, and are just now learning they're not. Kathymommy (talk) 17:22, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Kathymommy, the article says 1923 (not 1932) and cites this source, which says that "The original structure was built in the 1923, with additions/alternations completed in 1989 and 2000." I have worked really hard to find opening dates for New Jersey high schools, including for all the other FRHSD schools, but the further you go back in time the harder it can be. Even with this source, was there an earlier high school building that was used before 1923? Was the project started in 1923 and not completed until 1925? This article from 1929 says that the school dates back to 1877 and that there had already been more than 50 graduating classes. I can dig further, but this seems to only get murkier. Let me know if any of this helps. Alansohn (talk) 17:55, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors June 2023 Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors June 2023 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the June 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since March. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

Election news: Fancy helping out at the Guild? Nominations for our half-yearly Election of Coordinators are open until 23:59 on 15 June (UTC)*. Starting immediately after, the voting phase will run until 23:59 on 30 June. All Wikipedians in good standing are eligible and self-nominations are welcomed; it's your Guild and it doesn't organize itself!

Blitz: Of the 17 editors who signed up for our April Copy Editing Blitz, nine editors completed at least one copy-edit. Between them, they copy-edited 24 articles totaling 53,393 words. Barnstars awarded are here.

Drive: 51 editors signed up for the month-long May Backlog Elimination Drive, and 31 copy-edited at least one article. 180 articles were copy-edited. Barnstars awarded are posted here.

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Help?

Hi. You seem really good at this. Can you find (I can't) an RS that clarifies the year of birth (at least) of this fellow? Thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Langer 2603:7000:2101:AA00:B48D:8CA7:24E5:A6EB (talk) 05:23, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

I've looked at sources and been unable to find his date of birth. I was hoping to find a Yale media guide or similar publication, but no luck. Alansohn (talk) 11:37, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for trying. It looks on a couple of sources such as this as though it's January 1949, but I don't think we count them as RSs. https://radaris.com/~Jack-Langer/1106906553 BTW, the Langer article is proposed at DYK, so feel free to improve it if you have interest. Thanks. --2603:7000:2101:AA00:9C56:A0E1:CEAC:F585 (talk) 19:31, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

The Radaris source is not a reliable one. Sometimes if you know the "answer" from a questionable source it can help to find a good one. On the other hand, I used both 1949 and 1949 in searches and found nothing. His story is perfect for DYK. Alansohn (talk) 20:12, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Great. Thanks again. --2603:7000:2101:AA00:9C56:A0E1:CEAC:F585 (talk) 20:22, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

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Short Hills, New Jersey

Hi Alansohn, I see three different references quoted for this CDP's 2020 population: in the top infobox, the Demographics infobox, and in the lede. None of them are functional now. Any suggestions? Castncoot (talk) 20:09, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Castncoot, I combined all the references for 2020 census data with a link for Census Quick Facts data. I think that this addresses your concern. Let me know. Alansohn (talk) 18:09, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
  - Looks great, thank you. Castncoot (talk) 06:24, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 July newsletter

The third round of the 2023 WikiCup has come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 175 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

Thebiguglyalien, with 919 points from a featured article on Frances Cleveland as well as five good articles and many reviews,
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Iazyges, with 560 points from a high-scoring featured article on Tiberius III.

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Collier High School

Hey I saw that you changed my edit from my Original post of the principal (Normile) which I then changed to the current principal (Dodgson). Why did you change it back. She is the brand new principal. My brother goes to the school I would know Baconcartoonist (talk) 02:18, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Baconcartoonist, because this source says that the principal is Thomas Normile. Alansohn (talk) 03:03, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Yeah I know but it's a bit outdated Baconcartoonist (talk) 16:00, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Baconcartoonist, I've searched for a source that would support the claim of the switch from Normile to Dodgson, but I haven't found one. If you could find one, that would be what's needed. But without a source that supports Dodgson as the new principal, Normile should remain listed. Alansohn (talk) 17:06, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
  Ok the website was updated so I updated the page
  
  Baconcartoonist (talk) 20:11, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
  Baconcartoonist, now that the source is updated, there's no issue. Thanks for reaching out. Alansohn (talk) 03:04, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

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Wyckoff BoE Election Edits

Hey there. Thanks again for your edits. I strive to follow the guidelines, but it's helpful having someone like you around who is so familiar with them. I just want to clear up that I wasn't trying to connect the lack of committee candidates to the competitive BoE races -- instead I was trying to explain what was going on electorally in the absence of a competitive committee race. But after reading the rule you cited I see how the BoE information fits into the district page more appropriately. Keep up the good work! LateNightWanderer (talk) 06:36, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

LateNightWanderer,thanks for reaching out. Let me know if I can help with anything. Alansohn (talk) 11:28, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Glen Rock maps

Hi, just wanted to leave a message on your own talk page in case you didn't see the ones on the Glen Rock talk page. I gave my rationale for the change in maps, and it's hard to develop a consensus if you don't engage. Would love to have a discussion on the article talk page! BappleBusiness^[talk] 22:07, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

BappleBusiness, thanks for reaching out. I will follow up there. Alansohn (talk) 23:00, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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Bayville, New Jersey

Is Bayville, New Jersey an official CDP as of 2020, i.e., in terms of needing to quote demographic statistics for? Castncoot (talk) 06:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

The source I've been using does not include Bayville as a CDP. Alansohn (talk) 11:56, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Wildwood Crest, New Jersey

Just wondering why my edits were reverted. Frank Vogel is no longer the Lakers head coach, and he has not been all season. Jibreel23 (talk) 18:07, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Jibreel23, in addition to changing the team, you also were removing a source that connected him to Wildwood Crest and replaced it with one that made no mention of the borough; what's needed here in the list of notables is a source that connects the person to the place, not that confirms what team he's coaching. The team name has been changed. Alansohn (talk) 20:00, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Alansohn, I understand now my bad. Jibreel23 (talk) 20:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

WikiWednesday (Aug 23) and Governors Island Wiki-Picnic (Sun Aug 27)

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Mall Reverts

Hello. These stores are noteworthy for these malls which is why they're to be included, they're either unique to the center, the only stores in the region or in the chain. I feel this is general common knowledge for the most part. Lord & Taylor was a smaller chain based in the northeast and quite a unique retailer, I feel it's necessary to describe it. By the way I did not get to introduce myself. I am particularly interested in the evolution of malls. I look forward to working with you. I apologize for not taking this to your talk page. 174.215.219.158 (talk) 12:24, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Discussion was moved to user's talk page to keep the entire discussion in one place. Alansohn (talk) 13:30, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Sunday: NYC Wiki-Picnic @ Gov Island

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Would you like a little beer, Mr. Alansohn?

Love your work, Alansohn! I may be a bit of a newbie on Wikipedia, but after seeing how much of an impact you've had on all these people through all these years, I just had to show my appreciation for you. Thank you for *everything* you've done for us—I mean that. From one New Jerseyan to another, keep it up! ᜋᜃᜒᜐᜒᜄ᜕ ᜆ᜔ᜐᜓᜏ (talk) 23:03, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

HandsomeGum, I'll drink to that! Thanks for all of your efforts; please let me know what I can do to help. Alansohn (talk) 23:35, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks for copyedits!

Hey again! Thanks so much for your copyedits to what I added to the RIH page. I think it was smart to exclude the CRT source, and I learned the word for "scare quotes" and totally see where you were coming from with removing them -- though I intended them to mean that I/the Wiki editors didn't come up with the term, instead that it was pulled from sources; my intention wasn't to demonize the parents' rights group, but now that I know the quotes weren't necessary I agree that it may have had that effect. You rock! Thank you :) LateNightWanderer (talk) 20:58, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

LateNightWanderer, I hope that we can continue to work improving articles in the area! Thanks for reaching out. Alansohn (talk) 21:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Sep 20: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting

September 20: Annual Election & Members Meeting

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The Members' Meeting is similar to other WikiWednesday meetups, except that its primary function is to elect a new Board of Directors. We will elect five board seats. After being elected, those elected can potentially appoint more seats. We will also have a fun WikiWednesday!

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Septermber GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September 2023 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the September 2023 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since June. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below.

David Thomsen: Prolific Wikipedian and Guild member David Thomsen (Dthomsen8) died in November 2022. He was a regular copy editor who took part in many of our Drives and Blitzes. An obituary was published in the mid-July issue of The Signpost. Tributes can be left on David's talk page.

Election news: In our mid-year Election of Coordinators, Dhtwiki was chosen as lead coordinator, Miniapolis and Zippybonzo continue as assistant coordinators, and Baffle gab1978 stepped down from the role. If you're interested in helping out at the GOCE, please consider nominating yourself for our next election in December; it's your WikiProject and it doesn't organize itself!

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July Drive: 34 of the 51 editors who took part in our July Backlog Elimination Drive copy-edited at least one article. They edited 276 articles and 683,633 words between them. Barnstars awarded are here.

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Books & Bytes – Issue 58

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
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Manhattan RfC

Hello. There is an RfC is session at Talk:Manhattan#Request for comments: Geography section. Castncoot (talk) 01:08, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Barnstar

I dont know if this is the right place to put this but I would just love to award you with

		The Special Barnstar
		For helping the page of my tiny town. Jove108 (talk) 21:05, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

. I live in Roosevelt New Jersey and seeing all the work you put and still put into a page about a town no one cares about brings me such a smile. Keep up the good work from one New Jerseyite to the next. Jove108 (talk) 21:05, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Jove108, much appreciated, but the thanks are entirely unnecessary. Roosevelt is rather small but has a truly remarkable history. It has been my privilege and pleasure to keep the article updated. Alansohn (talk) 22:02, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

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Shoppingtown Mall

There has been a lot of vandalism on the Shoppingtown Mall page I was hoping you can do something about it please, thank you. 174.215.221.206 (talk) 21:47, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

I will try to keep an eye on it. I don't check all the time, but I will try to spot any residual vandalism that you don't catch. Alansohn (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
I'm not on here as much. Can you add protection to the page?

Thank you. 174.215.221.206 (talk) 01:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Hello, this mobile page has consistently been coming back to revert their vandalism on the Shoppingtown Mall page. What can be done here?

Regards 174.215.203.161 (talk) 13:10, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

emedfe

I assume the 'emedfe' was a mistake so I deleted it. Please revert me if I am wrong. Polygnotus (talk) 16:42, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Sun Oct 1: NYC Hispanic/Latinx Heritage Month 2023

October 1: Hispanic/Latinx Heritage Month 2023: Edit-a-thon!

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Hispanic/Latinx Heritage Month 2023: Edit-a-thon!, with in-person at Prime Produce Guild Hall in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan.

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Some past local edit-a-thons touching on this area have included the two editions of Wikipedia:Meetup/WikiArte at MoMA in 2015-16, and the CUNY LaGuardia translat-a-thons held annually since 2018.

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WikiCup 2023 November newsletter

The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work, BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-

BeanieFan11 with 2582 points
Thebiguglyalien with 1615 points
Epicgenius with 1518 points
MyCatIsAChonk with 1012 points
BennyOnTheLoose with 974 points
AirshipJungleman29 with 673 points
Sammi Brie with 520 points
Unlimitedlead with 5 points

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.

Unlimitedlead wins the featured article prize, for 7 FAs in total including 3 in round 2.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in total.
Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured picture prize, for 6 FPs in total.
BeanieFan11 wins the good article prize, for 75 GAs in total, including 61 in the final round.
Epicgenius wins the good topic prize, for a 41-article good topic in the final round.
LunaEatsTuna wins the GA reviewer prize, for 70 GA reviews in round 1.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the FA reviewer prize, for 66 FA reviews in the final round.
Epicgenius wins the DYK prize, for 49 did you know articles in total.
Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.

The WikiCup has run every year since 2007. With the 2023 contest now concluded, I will be standing down as a judge due to real life commitments, so I hope that another editor will take over running the competition. Please get in touch if you are interested. Next year's competition will hopefully begin on 1 January 2024. You are invited to sign up to participate in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors. It only remains to congratulate our worthy winners once again and thank all participants for their involvement! (If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.) Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Long Beach Township, New Jersey

Hello @Alansohn: , I was looking at the deletion discussion for the LBTBP and I saw that the list of beaches that the patrol guards was one of the important and relevant pieces of information recommended to be merged to the Long Beach Township, New Jersey page. I was wondering why you removed it from the recreation section or if it was a mistake. Thank you. Brandon Nimmo (talk) 15:56, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Brandon Nimmo, first of all, let me thank you for all of your fine work playing outfield for the New York Mets. It's so great that you can find the time from your busy 162-game schedule to edit articles in Wikipedia. I'm honored to be interacting with you! When I saw the discussion about beaches, I understood it to mean the six areas where the beaches are located, not the specific list of the 53 guarded beach areas (shown below), which would be unencyclopedic in any other context.
- The following beaches are guarded in each town:
  - Loveladies: Tract 153 (Dolphin), Tract 141 (Seaview), Coast Ave, Tract 99 (Harbor North), Tract 85, and Tract 53 (Harbor South).
  - North Beach: Tract 1119 (Green), Tract 1087 (Flamingo), Tract 1065 (Pump House), Tract 1049, Tract 1023, Tract 1005
  - Brant Beach: 32nd Street, 36th Street, 40th Street, 44th Street, 48th Street, 52nd Street, 55th Street, 58th Street, 62nd Street, 65th Street, and 68th Street.
  - Beach Haven Crest: 70th Street, 75th Street, 78th Street, 82nd Street, 86th Street, 91st Street, 96th Street, 100th Street, 104th Street, 110th Street, and 114th Street.
  - Spray Beach: Colorado Ave (118th), Ramp Ave (122nd), Dune Ave (127th), Pennsylvania Ave (131st), 33rd Street, 29th Street, 25th Street, 21st Street, 17th Street, and 14th Street.
  - Holgate: Osborne Ave, Marshall Ave, Susan Ave, Rosemma Ave, Scott Dr, Chatham Ave, Jacqueline Ave, Harding Ave, and Washington Ave.
Can you confirm your thoughts on what was intended for inclusion? Alansohn (talk) 16:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
I thought that in an article with not many things that set it apart from other patrols, the list of each guarded beach was one of the few things that actually was relevant and that it should be included in the recreation section with the LBTBP. That’s just my take though. If I remember correctly, the page already states that Long Beach Township encompasses those six communities, so it could be assumed that the patrol serves the same ones, making the list of individual guarded beaches the only notable information for inclusion. Brandon Nimmo (talk) 16:23, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Brandon Nimmo, the LBTBP could well operate in only some, but not all, of the communities in the township. The specific locations of guarded beaches appears excessive. Alansohn (talk) 21:34, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
As excessive as it may be, Wikipedia strives to be an encyclopedia of accurate information, and the list, according to the source, appears to be accurate. I just wanted to make sure the merging of information was the best it could be. Brandon Nimmo (talk) 22:19, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Brandon Nimmo, the standard is not just that articles have "accurate information". The information needs to been encyclopedic and this is not. Alansohn (talk) 01:57, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
May I ask why you believe this is not encyclopedic. The definition of an encyclopedia is “a collection of information centered around various subjects,” and the list of specific guarded beaches meets that criteria. Brandon Nimmo (talk) 04:37, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

RM notice

Hello, I've opened an RM about John J. Burzichelli. Since you moved this page before, I thought you might want to know about the discussion: Talk:John J. Burzichelli#Requested move 8 November 2023. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:43, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Nov 15: WikiWednesday Salon + Wikimedia NYC Executive Director job

November 15: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce

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List of Guarded Beaches in Long Beach Township, NJ.

@Alansohn: I do not understand why you believe that the list of Guarded Beaches in not encyclopedic, especially when an encyclopedia is a “collection of accurate information centered around a topic,” which is a criteria the list meets. It is cited and it was specifically mentioned to be merged in the deletion discussion for the LBTBP. There is seemingly no logical reason why my edit was reversed. Could you explain your thinking? As per Wikipedia’s guidelines, I will treat it as vandalism to the page and revert the edits if there is no response. Powerplay44 (talk) 22:28, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Powerplay44, sorry for not replying sooner. Wikipedia ia not a directory, and there is no encyclopedic value of any kind to a directory of several dozen beaches guarded by the LBTBP. No one visiting this article from around the world trying to gain an understanding about Long Beach Township needs this information. Per WP:BRD, you've been bold and you've been reverted and now is the time to make your case that there is consensus to include this list. Alansohn (talk) 22:49, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Again, I truly appreciate your care for this page, and I wonder if you would be opposed to including this information in its own article (Ex: List of Guarded Beaches in Long Beach Township). I have also found sources detailing guarded beaches in other towns on LBI and I’d like to know if this specific list would be accepted if every town had a similar one. As for the consensus to include the list, I believe that comments on the Deletion Discussion for the LBTBP is sufficient, but I can find further consensus if you think that is necessary. We could also narrow the list down to a few beaches in the Township (the historically busiest ones) if that works too. I know I just wrote a lot about this, and I apologize if I’m overwhelming you. Thank you. Best, Powerplay44 (talk) 00:16, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Powerplay44, to be honest, I don't think it belongs anywhere. Start a discussion at Talk:Long Beach Township, New Jerseyand see if there is any consensus to include the list. I, for one, would be opposed. Alansohn (talk) 00:34, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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Wed Dec 6: Hacking Night + job listing

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Books & Bytes – Issue 59

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 59, September – October 2023

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Checking in about having trimmed RIH District page

Hey there. I just updated the Ramapo Indian Hills District page with the 2023 election data. Before that, after having read your very helpful message on my page, I trimmed the entire BOE section down significantly. If you're able to check it out, I want to make sure it's no longer excessive. Thanks much! LateNightWanderer (talk) 05:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

LateNightWanderer, looks like a major improvement. Alansohn (talk) 16:29, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

History of Manhattan

Hi Alansohn, thank you for your cleanup work on the history section of Manhattan. Just fyi, there is also a notable History of Manhattan article. If you are interested, you could additionally replicate your changes there as well. Best, Castncoot (talk) 01:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Castncoot, thanks for reaching out. I will definitely do further work on the article for Manhattan and for the proliferating sub-articles. Alansohn (talk) 23:58, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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Bergen Catholic High School

I have seen your revert of my editing, and your edit summary. Apart from the contemptuous tone of the edit summary, which I regard as unhelpful, you have taken remarks of mine out of context, and made what amounts to a straw man argument. The answer to your rhetorical question is, of course, "no", but that does not in any way detract from the thrust of what I said. The article contains a prodigious amount of material the purpose of which is clearly to impress the reader with a long list of sporting successes over a period of more than half a century. That is promotional, plainly and simply. JBW (talk) 10:22, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

JBW, I can assure you that I didn't even come close to the dripping smarminess you spewed in your edit summary. The most belligerent of your comments was that the material was allegedly "blatantly promotional (e.g. extensive listing of sporting wins, without mention of losses, which belongs in the school's website, not an encyclopaedia which seeks to be neutral)" My response was a direct response to your exact words, which you claim to be taken "out of context". No editor, no administrator, should be making accusations of an "unhelpful" or "contemptuous tone" when the attack was yours, and yours alone, in your original remarks.
I have done significant editing in this article and much of what so offends you was material that I added. I never attended the school. I have no connection to the school. I have never watched their football team play a game. I am not Catholic, not have I ever been. I once drove past the building. In a state with several hundred high schools, the school happens to be one of the most successful of the state's Big Five private school football powerhouses. The material added was done in good faith as an accurate reflection of the school's success, not in any way to promote the school; the sole intent has always been to add material where relevant in an effort to inform the reader. No more, no less. Rather than make continued bad faith accusations, may I suggest that you walk back your claims and tone down your rhetoric, which is truly unhelpful and contemptuous. Alansohn (talk) 19:18, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

I am, frankly, absolutely astonished that you think that is an appropriate response to what I wrote. JBW (talk) 20:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Take a look in the mirror. You'll see a hypocrite staring back at you. Alansohn (talk) 11:57, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

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Recent Socks

Hey, Alansohn. Just to let you know, I deleted the sock discussion about the list of beaches in Long Beach Township. Also wondering, looking at their limited contribution history, if the other two contributors to that discussion, Handstain and the IP are also socks of Tony Beach Enthusiast. I’ll place the sock tags on them to be safe. Pengua (talk) 01:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Pengua, thanks for catching this. I agree that the sockpuppet issue is probably wider than first thought. Alansohn (talk) 11:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)