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Thanks to everyone's amazing efforts in February, we have reviewed all of the articles and are now finished with Sweeps! There are still about 30 articles currently on hold, and once those reviews are completed, I will send you a final message about Sweeps process stats including the total number of articles that were passed and failed. If you have one of these open reviews, be sure to update your count when the review is completed so I can compile the stats. You can except to receive your award for reviewing within the next week or two. Although the majority of the editors did not start Sweeps at the beginning in August 2007 (myself included), over 50 editors have all come together to complete a monumental task and improve many articles in the process. I commend you for sticking with this often challenging task and strengthening the integrity of the GA WikiProject as well as the GAs themselves. I invite you to take a break from reviewing (don't want you to burn out!) and then consider returning/starting to review GANs and/or contribute to GAR reviews. With your assistance, we can help bring the backlog down to a manageable level and help inspire more editors to improve articles to higher classes and consider reviewing themselves. Again, thank you for putting up with difficult reviews, unhappy editors, numerous spam messages from me, and taking the time to help with the process, I appreciate your efforts! --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 02:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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Bert Jansch - thanks

Many thanks for the reassessment of the Bert Jansch article. It's been a useful process which has motivated me to improve the quality of the article. Unfortunately it hasn't prompted a lot of other editor contributions, but you can't win them all! Cheers! Bluewave (talk) 22:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello David, thank you for initiating the Good Article Reassessment. I was wonder if it is possible to extend the assessment period by another week as I have been busy this past week with work and will not be able to look over the article until Sunday at the earliest. I am interested in attempting to improve the article but do not have the time at the moment. Thanks! Arsonal (talk) 20:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Signpost

Nice, I was thinking earlier of starting something too, so it's good to see you beat me to the punch. I'll help to expand it further this weekend. I'm going to be going over all of the stats and verify if we did get all 2,808 articles (don't want one to fall through the cracks and come back to haunt us). Are you planning to send that out in a week or two (once the holds should all be done?)? Anyway, nice start, and I'll help you fill in the cracks later. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 02:03, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Mind if I pitch in? OhanaUnitedTalk page 22:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
The more the merrier! Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 23:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I updated some of the stats and made some minor changes. I spent several hours (I figure I've already spent a month on this project, a few more hours ain't going to hurt) going through all of the articles and creating a pivottable in Excel of all of the articles. I adjusted reviewers' numbers based on missing/duplicate articles. The running total page is not going to be precise, so I'll post the data once the last few articles are finished if editors want a better idea of the breakdown of articles. I'm also going to have a subpage for all of the delisted articles so that if readers are interested in adopting an article or two to return to GA status, they can have plenty to choose from. Now we just need to wait for the last eight articles to be finished. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 05:22, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
It looks ready if you want to try and get it in tomorrow's Signpost. If there is any other information or other charts you would like, let me know. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

File:Yucatan chix crater.jpg

There is a typo in the text which (I assume) you added to the NASA image - there should only be two letter "n"s in peninsula - not penninsula. This is likely to get a lot of views following this and similar reports. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Question about the notability of an article I created

Almost three years ago, I created an article for H.U.R.L., a 1995 PC game starring a young hero who fights with soap and water against the forces of dirt and slime. I made myself confident that it met the notability criteria at the time before writing it, but it would seem that either I didn't fully understand the notability criteria then or they have changed (or both). In particular, I'm worried that the magazine reviews don't qualify as "significant coverage" either because they're product reviews or because the magazines don't seem to exist anymore. Either way, I can't find them on the list of reliable sources at WP:VG/RS. I come to you to ask for advice about what to do. Can you tell me right out whether the game is notable, or should I start an AfD? It might even qualify for G7 without an AfD, but I'd rather not as it's been up a long time and is linked to from at least a few other articles. Also, if you're concerned about the link to my website at the bottom of the article, or even the fact that my website exists, I can assure you that the game's programmer has endorsed my website as the game is nearly 20 years old and he long ago abandoned trying to make money from it. Soap 13:45, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

JP Releases

Hello there. First of all, please assume good faith and be mindful that you don't own the Halo Wars article. Second, my "meaningless standard" is actually from the WP:VG article guidelines - "Releases in non-English countries should otherwise [unless there is a significant reason] not be included in the infobox". More specifically, from the Infobox documentation: "Use the first public non-festival release in the game's country of origin, as well as any English-language release dates available" with regard to release, and "The game's censorship rating most widely accepted in the game's country of origin (and any English-language censorship ratings)" with regard to ratings. If you object to this, I suggest you raise it on the VG wikiproject (please let me know if you do). Gimme a shout if you've any questions. Thanks! Fin© 21:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello again. I'd urge you to re-read the guidelines and template doc - it does not say "Use the game's first worldwide release", it says "The game's first release in the country of origin". Again, if you feel strongly that this should be changed, please bring it up on WT:VG. Thanks! Fin© 21:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

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Apologies

Sorry for causing any hassle. :( I just thought that I could help make the page a bit more detailed with information from the Halo Encyclopedia book, but I haven't quite got the hang of citing things yet, but no doubt with time comes experience. :) Also, do these accounts work on the wiki's? --Plagatus Proeliator (talk) 12:21, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Also for the installation edits, could I cite the game Halo 3? If you look at the inward facing sides of the ring holograms in the level "The Covenant" you can see what the environs look like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Plagatus Proeliator (talkcontribs) 20:09, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

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ODST - 640p

Hello again. Please don't class a sourced entry to a standard field in an infobox as "unimportant". While I can at least see your point (though I disagree) with Halo Wars and the inclusion of JP releases, I had basis in guidelines for my actions. Again, if you think the resolution is "unimportant" (and by association, the resolution field in the infobox) then I suggest you bring it up on WT:VG. Thanks! Fin© 11:56, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

"sticking your hands over as many as you can touch" - I try to improve many minor things (usually infoboxes), rather than a few major things, that's just my editing style. Sorry that my style stops you from discussing things with me. I'm trying to enforce a consistent standard (that of complete infoboxes) too - again, sorry if you feel like our goals are in conflict (though if you're striving for consistency, I assume you should add JP releases and ratings to ODST). I'd consider the resolution an important part of the infobox (if it has a field, then I think it should be included), regardless of what it is (sub-HD or no). Sorry if I keep pointing you to WT:VG - when I do I mean "I'm following guidelines, if you don't agree with them, that's a good place to go get them changed", I'm trying to be helpful, not confrontational. I'd also appreciate it if you were a little less confrontational in your summaries and on my talk page, but that's up to you. Anyway, I'll just stay away from articles you edit regularly. Thanks! Fin© 13:39, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
I was thinking, and I'd just like to say this finally, in relation to Halo Wars:
I find it hilarious that by adding the Japanese release and ratings to the infobox you're being as irksome as Cliché. Claim that I'm owning the articles all you want, but I'm enforcing a consistent standard on all of them. Are the Japanese release date and rating important? No. It's barely touched on in the article and there's no body of reliable sources that discuss it.
I don't mean "there aren't sources for it" here, I mean "there aren't sources that discuss it". Likewise, the edit summaries of
go somewhere else and enforce your meaningless standard, please
it's the resolution; that's noteworthy enough for me.
The article is not hurt and is in fact helped, albeit marginally, by this information. There's no additional text bloat. There's no reason not to have it.
would have easily fitted as summaries of edits I made restoring 640p to Halo: ODST. Again, no need to reply, and I'm not going to edit or revert your changes, just wanted to point out that the arguments you used could be used word for word from my perspective too. Thanks! Fin© 11:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


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Star Trek film reversions

Thank you for your message on the reversions that you carried out - can you tell me why when anyone has made changes to any of the Star Trek movie articles you often go in and revert them?

When you check the movie article histories your user name comes up over and over again and each time you have removed what various people have added.

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Klingon

I fail to understand the logic of your revert. It was not a quoted passage. Beatle Revolver (talk) 14:20, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

After several days lacking any explanation of your revert, I will now restore my edit. Beatle Revolver (talk) 20:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Trek revisions #2

The way you have reverted the Star Trek articles, it does comes across as manipulating the articles into your own personal points of view.

Zippyandgeorge (talk) 15:08, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

OTRS

Thanks for your help with the images over at the Anarchy Online FAC. I'll let you know if he gets back to me. Sebquantic (talk) 17:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Forwarded another email to OTRS with a more explicit statement from him. Can you take a looks at those at some point? Sebquantic (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:17, 19 March 2010 (UTC).

Thank you for your rude childish reply

As per your message to me earlier - yes you are being very childish with your response when you could have been more adult about it.

So i am obviously right in the fact that clearly you have issues with anyone altering the Star Trek movie articles, you appear to like to revert other peoples work regardless weather they are right or wrong and put your own personal points of view in the articles.

That makes you a very poor Wikipedia administrator and if any other administrators are reading this conversation - please inspect Fuchs corrections in the articles already mentioned and note how he changes things to his own way!

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I need a second opinion if this reference is good enough for the article. GamerPro64 (talk) 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

O.k. Also, what section should it be in? GamerPro64 (talk) 23:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Myst Sountrack

Hi There, I just saw you undid my edits in the audio section about the Myst soundtrack. Should I create a specific article about it? I could add more infos, and notably professional reviews on the soundtrack itself. In fact, I wished to create an article on each Robyn Miller albums, not only the Myst soundtracks. Thanks for your answer.--Vegetable man38 (talk) 16:30, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I just begin this article Myst: Soundtrack and added some infos about the organization of the album and, the remix from mono to stereo, the added instruments in the musical arrangements compared to the same tracks in the game. This is unsourced for the moment as this is something I saw myself by listening but I'll try to add two samples from the game and the album to support this comments. I guess this is interesting to talk about that work made on the music between the game and the album. I added also a link to the allmusic review in the infobox, although this is a details. If it's ok, I suggest you that the notes concerning the album itself (releasing via mail order, etc...See what I added to the soundtrack article) be deleted from the audio section on the Myst article and a link to the Soundtrack article added. What do you think about it?--Vegetable man38 (talk) 00:52, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

A message concerning you

Hi David,

Just as an FYI, there's a message about you on my talk page. You're invited to comment, or not, at your leisure. - Philippe 05:29, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Dalek

Hi, David. I've taken a first pass at slimming down Dalek, consolidating the "quasiparagraphs" you mentioned at the FAR and removing some trivia. Could you take another glance at the article and let me know where, if anywhere, you think further cuts are needed? I'd like the article to be able to keep its star. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 14:19, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll drop you another note if you haven't responded in the next day or two. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 15:03, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

RE:If you have the time and will...

Wow, that's a monster of an article. I'll see what I can do, but it'll probably be in random spurts.

On a side note, do you want some of the refs I found for Beyond Good & Evil (video game)? Didn't find as much as I hoped though. :-\ (Guyinblack25 talk 15:30, 24 March 2010 (UTC))

Started going through the article. I think the "Multiplayer" section should give more context to the non-gamer. For instance, mentioning how the Halo 3 multiplayer operates via Xbox Live and such. Also, I'd switch out the term "unlock" with something like "becomes accessible". (Guyinblack25 talk 23:15, 28 March 2010 (UTC))
About half-way through-
  • The "Characters" section in "Synopsis" is rather short. I'd combine it with "Setting" or integrate it into "Plot".
  • The second paragraph mentions "...during winter and spring 2009." WP:MOS prefers avoiding seasons.
(Guyinblack25 talk 21:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC))
Finished. The article and the recent changes you made look good to me. Very in-depth and well-written. I'm sure it'll do just fine at FAC. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC))

Link's Awakening

Could it be a FA article, I think it is almost there. You said in a previos FAC that it need a section talking about Development, but do we have the information? Taking into account that the game is from the early 90's is hard to find something in the net. Also a censur section can be sth important to add, but it is hard to find reliable sources. Can you help? OboeCrack (talk) 16:09, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

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By Crom, I thinketh I have addressed the points thou have spake about this corny game of Howard's beefcake. Please bring thy sword and have at the comments I brought to the page. Jappalang (talk) 18:29, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Aye, I took a whack at it again and brought forth the heads responsible for those words. Take a look again at the text if they be pleasing enough. Jappalang (talk) 00:39, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:Assume Good Faith

With Assuming Good Faith, you clearly haven't been convinced yet about my edits so what kind of a source can I give to you? The best I can provide to prove Bee Train's animation involvement is for me to show you a screenshot. I can link you to Anime News Network or Halopedia but I figured a screenshot would be more convincing as both sources are mass edits.

Regarding their name absent from promo materials such as the official site I attribute to the fact it's a small studio with not quite the notoriety as Production I.G outside anime circles. Just message me back if you want my offer.

Also I don't make messages to profiles like this very often so wasn't totally sure how else to leave this. I do apologize in advance for any messups this may do to your page. Regards --ShortShadow (talk) 23:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Dalek FAR

Hi David! You recently commented at the Dalek FAR (located here), and entered a delist declaration in the FARC section. The main editor has since done quite a bit of work, and it would be great if you could revisit the review and note if your opinion has changed. Thanks in advance! Dana boomer (talk) 21:49, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

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--Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

A friendly reminder

David, you've probably forgotten, so I'll give you a chance to rectify this, but the Halo media FT has now failed two retention periods: for having Halo: Reach peer reviewed and added to the topic by 1 September 2009 and Halo Legends peer reviewed and added to the topic by 8 February 2010. I note that both of these articles have received peer reviews but they have not been added to the topic. Going by the good topic criteria it would be appropriate to nominate the topic for removal based upon this, but the easier thing would be for you to make a supplementary nomination to add these two articles to the topic. -MBK004 03:47, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Nice work. I have put this article on hold pending a few minor changes mentioned at the review.Cptnono (talk) 04:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Great. A couple closing comments and promoted. Cptnono (talk) 13:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Halo The Flood

Sorry, but you deleted my editing in the Flood article and you was wrong. In Halo, vitrification and glassing are two completely different things. Glassing, in Halo, means orbital plasma bombardment. It has nothing to do with vitrification. See? 187.111.247.20 (talk) 23:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Almost exploding* I ALREADY SAID THAT GLASSING IN HALO IS NOT BOMBARDING THINGS INTO GLASS, IS DESTROYING PLANETS UNTIL ITS SURFACE IS BROKEN LIKE GLASS!

Argh. You never darned played Halo. 187.111.247.20 (talk) 13:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

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New Article Question

Hey David. I'm about to make my first article and I need some info on its development. Here's the rough draft. GamerPro64 (talk) 10:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, yes. I just need secondary references to make it notable. Just try to find me references involving its development and I'll add the rest. GamerPro64 (talk) 01:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

ling's halo

...did you see my text on the article's talk page? later • Ling.Nut 00:49, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

You did address the things that were missing, tks. However, above that "here's what's missing" line on the article's talk page I completely reorganized/rewrote that paragraph. Although I do not believe my version is completely finished/polished, there are a large number of reasons why I prefer mine... as I mentioned in the FAC... • Ling.Nut 04:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Jason Jones (programmer)

Hi, David. Following the flawed review of the above, I have immediately renominated (in your name) at WP:GAN. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 02:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

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Hi David. I noticed that you are trying to make the Halo series article into a Featured Article so I wanted to show you this to help you find the dead links. GamerPro64 (talk) 19:55, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

RfA Follow-up

Hello. Thank you for your comment at my RfA. I provided a link there to some of my AfD activity, if that helps. Cheers! —Eustress talk 17:02, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Repost

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"Sangheili"

I know the true pronounciation of "Sangheili," the technical name for The Elites from Halo. Since the word Sangheili has many possible pronounciations, can we add the real pronounciation to the article on Elites? I can tell you the source and how it is said if you're interested. --CornfieldMannequin (talk) 19:19, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Um...could you please answer the question? I asked you in March. --CornfieldMannequin (talk) 19:13, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, It's Reliable

The pronounciation is heard on Halo Waypoint's article, Rise of the Brutes, and is also heard in-game, spoken by a Brute. Halo Waypoint was made in accordance with Bungie and 343 Industries, and actual gameplay should count as reliable source. Do you think it should be added?--CornfieldMannequin (talk) 19:19, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

GA push

Do you think that Beyond Good & Evil (video game) should be like copyedited and submitted to GAN? It looks GA worthy. GamerPro64 (talk) 23:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

O.k. For right now, I'll make a request to the Guild of Copy Editors to copyedit BG&E. GamerPro64 (talk) 00:31, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, its done with the copyediting. Would it be alright to submitt it to GAN? GamerPro64 (talk) 21:39, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

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Removed article by you is vandalizm

Hi David. You have deleted the Singaporean article 'Orchard Towers'. Can you please explain why? This was a properly resourced article about a building, shopping centre and entertainment complex. The article was written interestingly and had references and links. This was a proper article. Please explain to me why you deleted it. It seems that you are not from Singapore and you don't know the place. The building is still operational and was long and interesting enough to have it's own article. There was even a write-up about one of the few murders in Singapore which received extensive media footage in Asia. Surprised that you as an admin deleted this article. I think it would have been more respectful to open a discussion on the articles talk page. Thanks and regards --Shorty23sin (talk) 04:26, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I'll have to chime in and say that speedying the article is not justifiable -- if you want to see it gone, please file a proper deletion request. Jpatokal (talk) 08:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Any article that does not assert notability may be speedily deleted—Orchard Towers had no significant independent sourcing and no claim to notability, beyond the fact that murders happened to occur there (oh, and they have a 7-11). Recreate and prove notability, if you want. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 12:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
Better read up on your CSD criteria a bit: "The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source." In addition to the obvious notability of the murder case (it's not covered elsewhere on WP), the building itself is notorious as the "Four Floors of Whores" -- remember that this is squeaky-clean Singapore we're talking about. So, please undo your deletion. Jpatokal (talk) 12:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
I fully agree with Jpatokal's statement above. This building (Orchard Towers) is a very well known building. If you think that this article is not important then we should start deleting at least 25% of all Wikipedia articles. Just because you don't think it is notable then you should start something on the talk page and see what other users think. Please reinstate the article. Thanks --Shorty23sin (talk) 05:22, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Halo: Reach update

Hi. I do not have much time to edit before my internet connection goes down for maintenance (Computer repairman). Here are two recent official webpages providing information on new promotional material. There's an Xbox press announcement and the official website.-- OsirisV (talk) 22:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 26 April 2010

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Thanks for the review. I have some queries, please check. --Redtigerxyz Talk 14:41, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Please check again and strike out the comments addressed. --Redtigerxyz Talk 04:04, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Macintosh FAR

HereToHelp was quick to address the first set of problems I've dug up, so I've asked for a hold right now while he tends to the next set. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 19:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)