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Please remove my admin rights. [[:en:User talk:GB fan|~ GB fan]] 20:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Please remove my admin rights. [[:en:User talk:GB fan|~ GB fan]] 20:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{Done}}. Thank you for your service. [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 20:53, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
:{{Done}}. Thank you for your service. [[User:28bytes|28bytes]] ([[User talk:28bytes|talk]]) 20:53, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

== Admin status of {{user|Fram}} ==

On 26 February 2007, the enwiki community granted admin right to {{user|Fram}}. There has never been a resolution of the enwiki community, nor of its Arbitration Committee, to remove those rights. On 10 June 2019, they were removed unilaterally by {{user|WMFOffice}}. That action has not, in accordance with prior precedent, been referred to the enwiki ArbCom. There has been no public statement, despite two weeks having been elapsed, from WMF to state that ArbCom is for some reason unsuited to reviewing Fram's status as an administrator. There has not even been a clear statement that private off-wiki actions <u>by Fram</u> were considered by WMF as part of their decision to enact sanctions. In the intervening period, enwiki ArbCom has not found that Fram's onwiki actions justify removal of admin permissions. Nor has a community process reached that view and endorsed WMF's actions. It seems to me that we have now been more than patient with WMF, the Board and (for that matter) with ArbCom, to which I self-referred my earlier actions on 13 June 2019. Fram [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFram&type=revision&diff=19167876&oldid=19165604 has asked] two very simple questions. They are questions that as a matter of basic fairness ought to have been answered regardless of whether anyone believes Fram to be guilty or innocent of (as yet unspecified) misconduct. They have not been answered. Those questions, and those raised by members of this community, have been met with obfuscation and delay. In light of the absence of any serious attempt by WMF to engage in discussions with the enwiki community since this incident occurred, I have therefore restored Fram's community-granted admin rights. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:WJBscribe|WJBscribe]] [[User talk:WJBscribe|(talk)]]</strong> 23:49, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

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    sysop flag for DeltaQuadBot

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    Hello 'crats, Please change the +sysop access for DeltaQuadBot from temporary to indefinite per the approved BRFA at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DeltaQuadBot 6. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 13:20, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     Done Maxim(talk) 13:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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    Desysop request - Gadfium

    I have been dispirited by the recent action of T&S, and even more so by their refusal to explain their action in any meaningful way, to provide any mechanism for an appeal, or to negotiate on a compromise. I do not wish to hold advanced permissions on en.wikipedia in this situation. Please remove my administratorship.-gadfium 22:53, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     Done. Thank you for your service. I am sorry to see you go but I completely understand. 28bytes (talk) 23:04, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Desysop please - Boing! said Zebedee

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    Please remove my admin privileges - there's a resignation explanation on my talk page for anyone who is interested. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:38, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     Done. Thank you for your service. It's a shame we're losing so many good admins over this but I completely understand. 28bytes (talk) 17:44, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I haven't been involved in any of the Fram-related discussions, and I'm not here to do so. The only thing I wanted to say was to point out a statement by JEissfeldt (WMF) yesterday, that said, in part (it's a long statement): "I appreciate in particular the idea put forward by Newyorkbrad and his having been explicit that it could only be valid if it is true that the community has reached accurate conclusions about the facts of the case. However, despite efforts by some community members to scrutinize the contributions of Fram and various people who are speculated to have complained to the Foundation, the community does not and cannot have all the facts of this case, meaning that NYB's condition is not met." I interpret that to mean that this was more than an incivility ban and that the Foundation will not tell us what it is, just as the Committee sometimes won't tell us certain things, which we have to accept. I don't know if that makes any difference to you, Boing! said Zebedee, but I thought it would be worth mentioning. I'll miss you.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:49, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      I did read it, thanks, and it was not until after I read it that I made my decision. I won't go into my whole thoughts about that statement here, as it really won't help. And thanks for your thoughts. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:52, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Regarding Bbb23's statement "just as the Committee sometimes won't tell us certain things", I have never seen the Arbitration Committee (if that is who is being referred to) evade publicly giving all of the necessary and relevant details on any matter, excepting details which would seriously violate privacy (real names, etc.). ArbCom always summarizes actions taken and explains them. They have never refused to give rationales and details when asked. ArbCom is specifically tasked with privately handling matters or details that would violate our privacy policies, and the fact that ArbCom has not yet privately received information or details from WMF which would explain their rationale and due diligence, to me speaks volumes. Softlavender (talk) 11:45, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Softlavender: did you see Opabinia saying on 22 June [1] : "dialogue with arbcom" (or the subset able to join in) did happen, the T&S members who attended were very generous with their time, and I think we're all still digesting and considering followup starship.paint (talk) 17:29, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Which makes them now seem rather irrelevant; who now will want to run for the poisoned chalice that is arbcom 2020. T & S have breached a deeply rooted social contract, the effects of which are filtering down through the ranks. I must say, Boing!'s gesture here is very meaningful, and appreciated, much as I am aghast to see an admin "who gets it" hand in the tools. On the bright side, our community is together as never before. Ceoil (talk) 18:18, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ceoil: - community is together as never before - have we never done better than roughly 75% : 25%? starship.paint (talk) 18:42, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Polls are one thing, I'm thinking a deeper unity is emerging. Certainly broader understanding of the workload good admins have to carry, and the scarcity of talent like that which reeks from highly active syops like Fram. Will it seep into RFA? Dunno. Hope so. Ceoil (talk) 18:52, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Starship.paint, nowhere did Opabinia say that any evidence whatsoever was provided to ArbCom or that any plausible rationale whatsoever was given for Fram's sudden unapeallable ban and desysop or for WMF's refusal to undo it. Softlavender (talk) 23:16, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    You are right, Softlavender. Personally I'm waiting for ArbCom to release a statement on the matter. starship.paint (talk) 02:45, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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    Desysop request -- Kusma

    Reading through the statements of my two colleagues above, I find myself agreeing with almost every word they said. The way things look at the moment (I sincerely hope that changes in the future), I do not wish to hold advanced permissions on this project. Please remove my sysop bit. —Kusma (t·c) 10:52, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Unfortunate but understandable. Thank you for your service.  Donexenotalk 11:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the swift action, much faster than my response... —Kusma (t·c) 19:53, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Daffy123 RfA

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    It has been withdrawn.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 12:53, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    I did the needful. — xaosflux Talk 13:15, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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    Desysop request - Dennis Brown

    Disheartening to read Boing! said Zebedee's comments and the comments of others. I won't labor it, just please remove my admin bit. Dennis Brown - 17:07, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     Done. Disheartening is a good word for it. Thank you for your service. 28bytes (talk) 17:12, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the fast action. A more detailed explanation is now on my user page. Dennis Brown - 18:49, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes.... (desysop for Lectonar)

    ....I will refrain from elaborating, but unless we can see in the clear, please remove my bit. Lectonar (talk) 19:15, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     Done best regards and thank you for your prior service. — xaosflux Talk 19:16, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Cheers. Lectonar (talk) 19:18, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Remove sysop from User:GB fan

    Please remove my admin rights. ~ GB fan 20:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     Done. Thank you for your service. 28bytes (talk) 20:53, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Admin status of Fram (talk · contribs)

    On 26 February 2007, the enwiki community granted admin right to Fram (talk · contribs). There has never been a resolution of the enwiki community, nor of its Arbitration Committee, to remove those rights. On 10 June 2019, they were removed unilaterally by WMFOffice (talk · contribs). That action has not, in accordance with prior precedent, been referred to the enwiki ArbCom. There has been no public statement, despite two weeks having been elapsed, from WMF to state that ArbCom is for some reason unsuited to reviewing Fram's status as an administrator. There has not even been a clear statement that private off-wiki actions by Fram were considered by WMF as part of their decision to enact sanctions. In the intervening period, enwiki ArbCom has not found that Fram's onwiki actions justify removal of admin permissions. Nor has a community process reached that view and endorsed WMF's actions. It seems to me that we have now been more than patient with WMF, the Board and (for that matter) with ArbCom, to which I self-referred my earlier actions on 13 June 2019. Fram has asked two very simple questions. They are questions that as a matter of basic fairness ought to have been answered regardless of whether anyone believes Fram to be guilty or innocent of (as yet unspecified) misconduct. They have not been answered. Those questions, and those raised by members of this community, have been met with obfuscation and delay. In light of the absence of any serious attempt by WMF to engage in discussions with the enwiki community since this incident occurred, I have therefore restored Fram's community-granted admin rights. WJBscribe (talk) 23:49, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]