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September 9

Hello

Hello my name is amelia and i am 3 years old and I am on the computer with my daddy looking at wikipedia --AmeliaFloraley (talk) 00:36, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Welcome Amelia. We could use you help in a few years. Please don't forget.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 00:56, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, make sure to share all your time here with mom and dad! Marketdiamond (talk) 02:27, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Patricia schultz page

I was looking for a page about patricia schultz, and there was one, but when I clicked it, it redirected me to 1000 places to see before you die. Is there any way I can get to the patricia schultz page without redirection? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.232.98.214 (talk) 01:31, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately we only have an article for the book, and there is no separate page for the author. The redirection is there, so that searching for name, will find the closest thing available. If you would like to see an article on the author herself, the best thing to do is covered in here: WP:SOFIXIT. --Robert Keiden (talk) 01:39, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Continuing coverage

• I have a question. If an article doesn't meet WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE, while the article meets all other guidelines, should the article be deleted?--王小朋友 (talk) 02:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I've changed the title of this section from "Question" since the instructions at the top of the page specifically say not to title sections with something as simple as "Question". Dismas|^(talk) 02:56, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Unless the article is of a living or recently deceased person it is usually best to put a notice on the page heading or the specific section, or its always fun to research the topic and add the necessary citations and info to bring it up to encyclopedia standards. My 2 cents, (I just really hate deleting volunteered cited information) but other editors may be more knowledgeable about this specific topics encyclopediability. Marketdiamond (talk) 03:10, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Editing references

I am trying to edit the references to a few articles, such as Astrobiology. I can see the references when I see the artilce, but when I click on the edit button of the references section, only the word Reflist comes up and I cannot see or edit the references. How can I do this? Thanks Adam2828 (talk) 02:52, 9 September 2012 (UTC)adam2828Adam2828 (talk) 02:52, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I've changed the title of this section from "Question" since the instructions at the top of the page specifically say not to title sections with something as simple as "Question". Dismas|^(talk) 02:58, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

You don't edit the references in the references section. You edit them where they are used in the article. The references are auto-magically displayed in the correct section when the article is displayed to the user when they read it. See Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. Dismas|^(talk) 02:58, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

See also the new Help:Introduction to referencing. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:54, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

indian name for mother

I am doing a poster for my sudent. i need to know what is the name for Mother — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.239.211.20 (talk) 05:11, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Try Google, or, as a last resort, our reference desk. Kerfuffler (talk) 05:18, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

There is no such language as "Indian". Do you possibly mean Hindi? 69.62.243.48 (talk) 22:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Article for magazine

I would like to ad my magazine to the list of magazines in Scotland. I own Alexa Blu publications in Glasgow and run a lifestyle magazine called edition the magazine covering Glasgow and the West Coast Ayrshire. Can you please have this passed to the correct department. Many thanks Alexandra Blumenthal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editionthemagazine (talk • contribs) 05:13, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

You can post your request at WP:Requested articles. RudolfRed (talk) 05:31, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I think you have misunderstood what Wikipedia is. There is no "department": all the content in Wikipedia is created and maintained by volunteers, like you and me. Secondly, Wikipedia is not here to advertise or promote anything, commercial, artistic, charitable or anything else, but to collect information on topics which others have already found worth writing about. If your magazine has been written about in multiple independent reliable sources, then there can be an article on it, and in that case it may be added to List of magazines in Scotland. If it has not yet been written about, then it may not have an article, and should not appear in that list. --ColinFine (talk) 10:38, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Elaine Miles Australian Artist

Hello,

I am a new user to submitting information onto Wikipedia. My name is Elaine Miles, and I am an Australian Visual Artist. That is opposed to Elaine Miles the american actress, and also opposed to Elaine Miles the american Jazz singer.

I have entered Elaine Miles onto the Wikipedia lists for "Australian Artists" and also "Australian Glass Artists" and unfortunately Wikipedia automatically links my name to wikipedia sites for Elaine Miles the amercian actress. Which is incorrect.

I have uploaded a more details profile which is pending approval on my new user name "Elaine Miles Artist" on Friday, so maybe this can be resolved once that profile is accepted?

Is there any way this can be linked please, or atleast remove the link to the actress, but still keeping me on the two australian artists links.

Thanks for helping. I'm sure i will get the hang of wikipedia with your help, soon enough.

For evidence that I exist you can view my website: www.elainemiles.com.au

(as opposed to elainemiles.com which is the amercian jazz singer).

Cheers Elaine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elaine miles artist (talk • contribs) 07:22, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Your additions to the lists have been removed because only articles that already exist are included in such lists. The WP:Disambiguation of subjects with the same name is often done by appending the person's profession or reason for notability to their name so "Elaine Miles (artist)" is an acceptable name. I moved your draft to the correct area for submitting articles - it is now located at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Elaine Miles (artist) The draft still needs a lot of work but you'll get the help you need in the "Articles for creation" system. Roger (talk) 08:08, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

But you also need to read about conflict of interest in order to see how to proceed. --ColinFine (talk) 10:39, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not "automatically" link your name to the actress. We are all volunteers here, and sometimes we make mistakes. It's easy to forget when you link a name to make sure you are linking to the right person.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:54, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

uploading a file on another languages instead of English

Dear wikipedia ;) I have read your guidance about how we can upload a file on English but my question is : how can I upload a file on another language make you comfortable to contact me on this Email address <redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armin.M.Moghadam (talk • contribs) 07:40, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, No we will never contact you on that email address because you are not allowed to post an email address here. What exactly do you mean by "file"? On Wikipedia a "file" is most often an image, it can also be a sound or video recording or other media so language is generally not relevant. See Help:Files, if you need more assistance post here again. Roger (talk) 07:46, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps what you want to do is upload a file to one of the other-language Wikipedias? If the file is suitable, you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons - start with this link - and then it will be available to any Wikimedia project. Otherwise, each Wikipedia is separate, so you would need to ask advice on the other Wikipedia. JohnCD (talk) 14:56, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

And by suitable, we mean freely licensed. - Purplewowies (talk) 15:27, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Liberty National Life

Liberty National Life Complex#Background

I used Edit to change those parts with spelling mistakes - but that was only the second part of article. The top part still has errors and can not be changed. I refer to the error of story The article refers to a building, and should be storey Similarly with plural - stories should be storeys I do not wish to join Wikipedia just to change a few annoying words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.160.22 (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

"Story" is correct in an American context. Please see American and British English spelling differences.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:09, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

And the entire article can be edited by clicking the "Edit" link at the very top of the article. Though it's not necessary in this case as pointed out by Shantavira. Dismas|^(talk) 08:52, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Strong national ties to a topic. The article is about an American building so it uses American spelling. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:05, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Need help on two questions related to accounts

Lost the password of alternate account

I created an account named Vanischenu at some institutions to edit from some schools/colleges, where there is less prone to get compromised than from that of mere internet cafes. But I forgot its password soon after its creation. I have not put an e-mail address with it to prevent threats. How can I recover its password? Is there any one who can either see or change the password at request? I can tell you how the password looked like as a proof. Thanks in advance.···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 14:24, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Want to edit from an android mobile using Wi-Fi

Should I use an alternate account. I like to contribute using my main account itself. If it's not good, then I have got two options - to use my old account (I have 3 accounts right now) or create a new one. Which should I prefer? Thanks for your help.···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 14:24, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I find editing from my Android phone hard enough to not want to do it, but I use my only account to do it. - Purplewowies (talk) 15:21, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the answer. Since your account is still not compromised, I shall use the main account itself. Actually, I just worried about the following,

• The programs installed (like Wiki Love Monuments), they say that the program can perform a list of actions. Does this affect the security?
• meta page on flies warns about using Wi-Fi, but I cannot understand any of the precautions listed.

Thanks···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 15:28, 9 September 2012 (UTC) modified on 15:34, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I'd say if you're using a public connection (or stealing wifi from a neighbor or something), go ahead and create an alternate. If you're editing from your own wifi, you don't have to. What do you mean about the performing a list of actions? Are you talking about permissions? - Purplewowies (talk) 15:59, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes I was referring to permissions. Also I assume I am not stealing WiFi - I can see a WiFi option when I scroll the banner on top of the phone. (I am using a Samsung ace plus, with Idea Cellular sim card for 3G (3G probably not activated). But I may also edit near a computer having Wi-Fi. So does that cause any threat. Thanks for your reply.···Vanischenu^「m/_Talk」 18:38, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank You

Hello, I just wanted to thank the founder of wikipaedia (where paed = foot, not feet) (and a phile is not a vial nor vitriolic, but it is vital).

Thank You Founder of Wiki/Mabo Pedia. We live in the middle of space, how scary !! Buck Minster Fuller had that acknowledged already (when he transposed a 3-D Universe onto Trees . i.e. a 2-D papyral byblos)

Dank ut dante ... Rossetti, mMm, both were great **

Anyway, really * Thanks ever so, it has been so siply hepful and simply, a marvellous idea in itself.

So, I am Thanking You for having the idea in the first place !^! You belong to Plato's Idealisation of Eos (Eros/Erotica/Baby Lyonesse) The Dawn As a Dew that Pleases the Land.

Regards, Emma Pearce. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.172.213.74 (talk) 15:57, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Milosczv2222

Great warning to all. Again he started with his КИМИЦЗБГ02 vandalism by constantly writing an article about yourself that struck several times on the Serbian Wikipedia. Wikipedia has blocked three of 27 orders more than once. Administrators please respond. Greeting! --Kolega2357 (talk) 16:32, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Eddie Griffin (Comedian/Actor) born July 15, 1968

I represent Eddie Griffin and I want to inform you that his middle name is not James as listed, but Rubin. Also, he is not Eddie Griffin, Jr. He is just simply Eddie Griffin.

Please make changes if possible.

Thank you.

Ann Flagella

www.eddiegriffin.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.226.248 (talk) 18:04, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Do you know of a published document that has this information? We could cite it in the article. Without such information, anyone could go and change the info to anything else and it would be difficult to know who to believe. Yaris678 (talk) 19:39, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Consequent edits made by the same editor

Hi,

Is there a term for consequent edits made by the same editor? i.e. edits that were made without a different editor doing an edit in between. I am thinking that something like "string of edits" could do it but was wondering if a term already existed.

Yaris678 (talk) 18:31, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

wikt:consequent is a wrong word. You may be thinking of consecutive edits. This is a common term for it. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:38, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

OK. Well I got the term consequent from Help:Reverting#Rollback so maybe the wording there needs changing.

Anyway, is there a term for a set of edits to an article that was made by one editor without another editor editing in between?

Yaris678 (talk) 19:44, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Consecutive? RudolfRed (talk) 19:56, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

We've already had the "its consecutive not consequent" thing. But what do you call a set of consecutive edits by the same editor?

For example, if User A edits an article twice and then User B edits it three times and then User A edits it twice more that is 7 edits but only 3 Xs. What is X?

Yaris678 (talk) 20:08, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't think there is a special term. Wikipedia:Rollback_feature calls it "multiple consecutive edits" RudolfRed (talk) 20:16, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

In the past, I've called them a "string" or "series". I don't think there is a special term. Dismas|^(talk) 20:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

We mean it's called just that: "consecutive edits", or sometimes something like "consecutive edits by the same user" to make it more clear in some contexts what is meant. See for example Wikipedia:Rollback. I have changed the word in Help:Reverting#Rollback.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 20:26, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter, thanks for making that change.

@Dismas, Thank you, you have understood what I am getting at. Yes... starting to look like there isn't a special term! I hadn't thought of series before. Perhaps series is the word to go for. I think I can imagine someone saying "Rollback reverts the top series of edits." or "After 6 series, the article had improved considerably". It also has a nice analogy with Film series. I guess there is the possibility that someone might get confused if a "series" only contains one edit.

"chain" is another option... although a chain of one edit could also be confusing. Yaris678 (talk) 20:51, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Tenure? Gets across the user specificity and no issues with a one-edit tenure. Yaris678 (talk) 21:49, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

What is this?

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--Kijoorete-Bahnhof (talk) 22:14, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

The file has a description in a foreign language. Google translate says it translates as "middle-aged man with urinary and fecal incontinence wear all-in diaper tena slip." and thinks it's in Swedish. RJFJR (talk) 22:32, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

The image is explained on Adult diaper article. RudolfRed (talk) 22:48, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I suspect "this" is a sock. --Robert Keiden (talk) 23:36, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

September 10

I am being treated unfairly

I have seen a deletion notice on my article Fantastic Shabalanga, however I have provided a reference for this gentleman and yet User:And Adoil Descended claims it is not notable even though he can not read Swahili, a language of Uganda.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fantastic Shabalanga

I am asking for your support in this case. I feel like I am being pounced on for being a newbie by overzealous admins. Thank you. --Kijoorete-Bahnhof (talk) 00:09, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I've chimed in on the discussion. - Purplewowies (talk) 00:14, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Kijoorete, Can you explain this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipphamedl/1934568609/in/photostream/ and the license which appears to conflict with the image you uploaded?--Robert Keiden (talk) 00:33, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Not to mention that that picture makes no assertion that that man is the subject of the article. "Old man in nursing home" is kinda vague. Where's the proof that he's Fantastic? - Purplewowies (talk) 00:51, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that is my image and I am upset to announce that Fantastic Shabalanga is in a retirement home and gravely ill. I believe this is besides that point though. I invite all admins to partake in the discussion at the Admins Noticeboard. --Kijoorete-Bahnhof (talk) 00:53, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

This is being discussed in many places. Insofar as it needs to be discussed further (and I am not sure it does), it shouldn't be split all over the place. Let's keep this at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard --Jayron32 01:01, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Kijoorete-Bahnhof has been blocked as another Technoquat sock. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:36, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

editing references

I am trying to edit references to journal articles. The information (authors, title, journal name and so on), are already there. I would like to add link to a webpage where a copy of the artilce can be seen as a pdf file. I tried to add url = .... at teh end, but the program cut off part of the address to the webpage. Similarly for a book. How do I do this?

Thanks Adam2828 (talk) 05:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)adam2828Adam2828 (talk) 05:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Are you saying that you didn't copy the entire URL of the web page to begin with? Dismas|^(talk) 06:04, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Where are you copying the URL from? If you are copying from your browser's address bar, what is your browser name and version? -- John of Reading (talk) 06:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Please post an example. Several things could have happened and we are forced to guess without an example. I don't see one in your edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

If you check the documentation for {{cite web}}, it shows certain characters that you have to fix when pasting. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Information I added to a page was deleted, and I don't know why or who to contact to discuss the issue

I added some releveant information to a page about a sports star, and it was removed. The information was a link to the sport star's official website, and a mention (including link) that the sport star writes a blog for another, related website.

Both these were removed - can someone enlighten me as to why? They are both relevant facts pertaining to that individual, and information that anyone would find useful and beneficial should they search Wikipedia for that particular sports person.

I was under the inpression that Wikipedia was an open forum and that, as long as you comply with the rules, anyone was free to add relevant information and data.

So why should the particular information that I added be moderated in such a way? And what can I do about it? For example, how do I contact the person who removed it?

Thank you in anticpiation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noj3000 (talk • contribs) 09:06, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

If you tell us which article it was that will help us to work out what happened here. Britmax (talk) 09:10, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

If it was the Ben Woollaston article, both of your additions were regarding his authorship of a blog. Some editors here think that any mention of a blog means that a blog is being used as a reference, or that editing a blog is not in itself notable enough for an encyclopedia. An edit summary on the part of the person removing the information would of course have been helpful. Britmax (talk) 09:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

It was Ben Woollaston. And in fact, I also did the same for David Grace, Michael Holt, Liam Highfield, Stuart Bingham and Anthony McGill. They all write blogs for the Living Snooker website - surely that is in the public's interest and information worthy of being included in a reference page about them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noj3000 (talk • contribs) 09:32, 10 September 2012 (UTC) --Noj3000 (talk) 15:30, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm thinking no. Living Snooker does not have its own article, so that could mean people here don't think it's notable enough for an article. And if that is the case, mentioning Living Snooker in all those people's Wikipedia articles might not be permitted.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:27, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Foreign language help (Korean)

Is there a specific help desk or other page to request assistance with material in foreign languages? I'm struggling to figure out what the latest addition to Sarah Baartman#Cultural references is trying to say. It includes a link to a page on the Korean WP so perhaps somone who can read that page might be able to fix the garbled English. Roger (talk) 10:53, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

You could try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I am new

Good day. My name is Aitarou Omutsu (相田ルーチンオムツ) and I am a professor at Toin University of Yokohama located in Aoba-ku, Yokohama, Kanagawa prefecture, Japan.

I teach in political and social sciences and I have many contributions to make to the English wikipedia.

Outside of teaching, I enjoy reading and lectures.

I am new to Wikipedia. How do I get started? Thank you. --AitarouOmutsu-TUY (talk) 12:18, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

You will find that Wikipedia:Tutorial takes you through most of what you need to know to get started.

You may also want to think about how you want to contribute. Some users like to start new articles. Some users like to make big improvements to existing articles. Some users like to make lots of small improvements in many different articles. Some users like to create maps. Some users like to take photos. And so on.

Yaris678 (talk) 12:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Welcome. You might also find it useful to take a look at WP:WikiProject Politics and WP:WikiProject Sociology. WikiProjects are where editors with a common interest meet to discuss articles within their field. There are also WikiProjects covering most of the worlds countries a well as for transnational organisations. This essay has some useful advice for expert editors such as yourself. Roger (talk) 12:53, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Just speaking logically and not practically

Is "Ask a doctor/lawyer; seek professional medical/legal advice" not itself medical/legal advice? It seems equivalent to the statement "On the medical/legal topic you just mentioned, I advise you to speak to such-and-such professional." Though you didn't touch the technical content, you directed them in the direction of someone who would, and for all practical purposes, cannot deny that if said person did go to a professional and get content advice, you were a part of their getting there. If somebody asked me what's going on with their transmission, and I told them to go to Joe the a mechanic, I wouldn't say that in no way whatsoever did I give them auto care advice. Not very specific auto care advice, but nonetheless advice definitely on the subject of auto care. :) 20.137.18.53 (talk) 13:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

There is no "logically versus practically" dichotmy. We don't tell them which doctor or lawyer to consult, your scenarios all include specifying which professional to consult. The standard template answer used here basically says "Sorry, we are not qualified to answer this question, please ask someone who is", so it is not equivalent at all. Roger (talk) 14:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I modified my original post after your response. It doesn't seem to cause a major change in the fact that "seek professional advice from either anyone or someone in particular on X" is advice on the subject of X. "On the subject of medical advice, seek a professional" still helps them get closer to the answer to a medical question. 20.137.18.53 (talk) 14:30, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

So what? That's a trivial fact, and not relevant here. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:19, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Does the reference desk only answer "relevant" questions? :) 20.137.18.53 (talk) 15:32, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

This isn't the reference desk, it's the help desk. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia, so relevance matters. The reference desk might be willing to discuss it, but be aware that if you are asking if you can give particular advice then that is a legal question and rather than answer it they will tell you to consult a (licensed) legal professional. RJFJR (talk) 16:25, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the legal advice you just gave me(Suggesting where I go (the reference desk) where someone would point me to a professional on the topic of legality. "The reference desk might be willing to discuss it, but be aware that if you are asking if you can give particular advice then that is a legal question and rather than answer it they will tell you to consult a (licensed) legal professional."). 20.137.18.53 (talk) 16:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

That isn't legal advice, at the risk of pointing out the blindingly obvious. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 00:01, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The user has mistaken "legal advice" with advice to talk to a professional, which is decidedly not "legal advice," it is advice to talk to a professional, where your interlocutor assumes you may get professional advice. Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:13, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

• I acquiesce. 20.137.18.53 (talk) 19:35, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Uploading photos taken from the Olympic Games

The London 2012 conditions for ticket holders read as follows:

"Images, video and sound recordings of the Games taken by a Ticket Holder cannot be used for any purpose other than for private and domestic purposes and a Ticket Holder may not license, broadcast or publish video and/or sound recordings, including on social networking websites and the internet more generally, and may not exploit images, video and/or sound recordings for commercial purposes under any circumstances, whether on the internet or otherwise, or make them available to third parties for commercial purposes."

Does this condition mean users are not allowed to upload images taken at the Olympics to Wikipedia under any type of free license? If so, then what happens to the images which have already been uploaded to Wikipedia and had their licenses confirmed by an admin, like Flickr for example? Wolcott (talk) 14:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I Am Not A Lawyer but I believe it means that anyone who has uploaded such a picture here is in breach of UK law. I do not know whether Wikipedia is itself in breach of UK law when it hosts and uses such pictures; my guess would be that it is in breach. Confirmation by an admin would do nothing to change this. Maproom (talk) 15:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

The copyright/licensing experts hang out at WP:MCQ, so you should probably ask there. FWIW I am a lawyer and while it would not be a breach of English law in the criminal sense, it is a breach of the contract that you enter into when you buy your ticket. The question is whether LOCOG has the time, inclination and budget to sue uploaders for breach of contract. The ticket restrictions would however mean that any uploads probably do not comply with Wikipedia's or Commons' licensing requirements.--ukexpat (talk) 15:47, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

This was recently discussed at Commons:COM:VPC#Photos of [Olympic] Sporting Events, the view was that this is a non-copyright restriction and does not therefore breach Commons' licensing requirements, which are mainly concerned with copyright status. January (talk) 16:12, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

So if the IOC were to demand that Wikipedia delete images taken at the Olympics on the basis of the condition stated by the OP, how would Wiki admins respond? 220.255.1.111 (talk) 10:36, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Uploading a picture

Hi, I want to upload a picture from a horror movie, but it doesn't let me because I am not an "autoconfirmed user" or something like that. What's that? I'm new to the site and would like to know whether I'm asking on right desk. Thank you. Cooppeerr (talk) 15:46, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Welcome to Wikipedia. Your account will be auto-confirmed after you have made at least ten edits, and after four days have passed since it was created. Your Contributions page tells me you've already made eight changes today, so you're almost there in that respect. Rojomoke (talk) 17:11, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

But please make sure you understand the copyright position of what you are wanting to do. --ColinFine (talk) 10:48, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Different Question

on Wiki page Gongqing I deleted the previous reference by mistake and do not know how to put it back in correctly.

RLC19808Rlc19808 (talk) 15:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

User:Mdann52 has put it back correctly. Maproom (talk) 16:07, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I've fixed it. What you did is accidently changes </ref> to </r .Thanks for expanding the article, Mdann52 (talk) 16:09, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

WZVN

why are the people of venice, florida NOT going to be able to see ABC'S new show, KATIE. If we can see it, what is the correct channel to view it?

thank you.

sheila hird — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.193.3 (talk) 17:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Sheila. I'm sorry, but this is the Wikipedia Help Desk, and we are only able to provide assistance with editing Wikipedia. I'd suggest contacting your cable or satellite provider with your question. We have no control over ABC's content. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 18:01, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Katie is not an ABC program. Someone at the Entertainment Reference Desk might be able to help. — Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:32, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Copyright help

I've sent a copyright question to someone. Don't know who. This is all extremely confusing. Can you please provide me with a user's guide written in English, not computerese. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonielou (talk • contribs) 17:54, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

It looks like you posted your question to the Reference Desk, here, although it doesn't look like anyone has answered yet (they're a bit confused since that was your only edit at the time). Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright provides a number of answers to frequently asked questions about copyright, and may help you out. In general, though, it's best to avoid copying text from another source and posting it here, as that is usually infringing on the author's copyright. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 18:05, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Vandals

Every day, vandals are editing and removing content from Dennis M. Lynch page. Is there any way to stop this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.253.249 (talk) 18:49, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

No, this is not vandalism. Please familiarize yourself with what that word means at Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Vandalism. What people are doing is removing information which is poorly written and lacking proper references. This removal took away some very badly written and unsourced puffery from the article, and as such, by removing it the article quality is actually better. If you think the information is relevent, please discuss the matter on the article talk page, and provide some sources, so that it can be incorporated properly, using a writing style that would be appropriate to Wikipedia, and with proper references to reliable sources. --Jayron32 19:05, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I've requested additional attention here [2], and already discussed this with an IP who's taken a similar long-term interest in puffing the article [3].... there couldn't be any connection between them, could there? Drmies did a good job cutting the fat from this, and if non-neutral accounts persist in using the article as a promotional venue I'll ask that the page be protected. 76.248.149.47 (talk) 20:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Language settings - Gaelic (Scots)

We have used the functionality previously where we could change the English language to Gaelic. This appears not to be an option now, is this the case? Why has it been removed as an option? Or how do we now access this option if not via the language setting?

Thanks

VictoriaTorali (talk) 19:01, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly what you mean. Each language that has a Wikipedia is maintained completely independent of all of the others; you can't just "switch" the language from one to the other. There is a Scottish Gaelic Wikipedia at http://gd.wikipedia.org , and this is English Wikipedia. Other than both being under the "Wikipedia" umbrella, the two are independent projects. If you wish to read or edit articles in Scottish Gaelic, you would do so at http://gd.wikipedia.org . Does that help answer your question? --Jayron32 19:10, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Preferences → User profile → Language does have a setting for gd Gàidhlig, but it only affects system messages, not article content. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:23, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm also unsure what you mean. Some articles in the English Wikipedia, for example Scotland, has a "Gàidhlig" link under "Languages" in the left pane, but only when the Scottish Gaelic Wikipedia has an article on the same subject (and then it will often be independently written and not a translation). The English Wikipedia has around 4 million articles and the Scottish Gaelic Wikipedia only has around 11,000. There are also some browser add-ons which can translate arbitrary web pages but this is not a Wikipedia feature, and I don't know whether there is an add-on which can handle Scottish Gaelic. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

User:Felipito1.966

This user seems to be making more unreferenced edits than other editors can keep up with. Is there anyway to wind back all his edits across WP? Also, block!--Aspro (talk) 20:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Where are these edits? I looked and found some problems which I addressed at User talk:Felipito1.966#Disruptive editing but I saw nothing on their talk page about unreferenced edits. You should probably discuss them with the user first. If it continues to be a problem then please let me know on my talk page. I also noted that they are not a very prolific editor with less than 250 edits in total this year. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 05:35, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Two MW: namespace questions

Question 1

It seems that the screen below the editing window has changed in the last few days; I'm using the same version of IE8 that I have for quite a while, and I've never changed my skin away from Monobook, but there seems to be increased spacing around the terms of use, "If you do not want your writing to be edited...", and other elements that are located between the typing window and all of the special characters. Is it my imagination, or was something changed? I can't find anything relevant when searching Special:Recentchanges and restricting it to the MW: namespace. Nyttend (talk) 23:40, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't see a difference in spacing in MonoBook. MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning hasn't been edited since January. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:32, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I see a difference (it's actually between "Edit summary" and "This is a minor edit") and I've been wondering about this. I have my preferences set so that Wikipedia articles look the same as they always did. I have IE9.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Question 2

While looking for the answer to question 1, I noticed recent edits to MediaWiki:Zero-rated-mobile-access-language-options, a page that I've never seen before. What does this page do? And what is "portal"? It's given entries just like en:, de:, ja:, and the other language editions of Wikipedia, but http://portal.wikipedia.org/ definitely doesn't exist. Nyttend (talk) 23:40, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't know the system but I found mw:Wikipedia Zero in a search. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:32, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

cancelling or withdrawing an AfD?

Hello.

Using the nifty Special:NewPagesFeed, I managed to spot a pair of articles by a new editor that needed some cleanup and had very few references. I checked the refs and they did NOT check out (my mistake). I looked for more references and couldn't immediately find anything that supported them. So, decided "probable hoax" and tagged the first of the two (second mistake). I posted results and reasoning on the AfD, but after a few hours of further work, come to the conclusion I was wrong. I think the source cited may be incorrect, but both articles are fully supported by it. I no longer support, and would like to withdraw the AfD; what's the best way to do that? Or what else can I do now? I can also see that "New pages feed" is both nifty enough and powerful enough to be really dangerous for someone who's not careful. :( --Robert Keiden (talk) 23:46, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

An AFD can be closed as "Withdrawn by nominator" if you would like to withdraw your nomination. I'll do it for you. Electric Catfish 23:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! --Robert Keiden (talk) 00:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

September 11

Reference style for a whole multi-volume book with different ISBNs

I want to include, in the "Further reading" section of an article I'm working on, an entry for an eight-volume reference book whose volumes have separate ISBNs. Is there a way to incorporate them into one entry (with Template:Cite book, Template:Cite encyclopedia, or some other format), or do they have to be listed separately? A. Parrot (talk) 00:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

ISBN numbers will automagically format without any markup if you simply type ISBN + the Number, e.g., ISBN 1-886768-06-4 produces ISBN 1-886768-06-4. So at the end of a cite book template you can simply add any number of them outside of the closing curly braces, and label them as you see fit, such as Vol. I: ISBN ____; Vol. II: ISBN___; and so on. You also don't need to use a citation template at all. They are recommended because they provide consistency, freeing us from having to remember the standard ordering of the information or to hand format italics, quotation marks and so on, but they are optional.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

Thanks. A. Parrot (talk) 06:13, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

paraphrasing

An earlier version of an article I wrote -- abraham Zaleznik- contained some paraphrasing from a copyrighted source/ I eliminated the paraphasing and condensed the bibliogrpahic information but the top of the article still says that the article paraphrases. What do I do now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arielarry (talk • contribs) 00:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

If you fixed that problem, you can remove the tag. RudolfRed (talk) 01:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Making new topics.

Hi, I would like to know how to make a new topic that currently isn't displayed in Wikipedia. Wikipedia currently doesn't feature an article about the book Itch by Simon Mayo.

Thank you! DSG2806 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.147.162.213 (talk) 08:48, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Given that the book was published only six months ago, is it ripe? But you can go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation. —Tamfang (talk) 09:03, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The book is already mentioned briefly in the Simon Mayo article. To decide whether the book is notable enough to merit an article in its own right, you should see whether it fulfils the criteria at WP:BKCRIT. If you decide to write an article, use Tamfang's link or take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article. - Karenjc 09:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Reference removed - why?

Okay Wiki people, you've really got me stumped on this one. On the Michael Holt page, in the 'Personality' section, there was an already-existing mention of him lacking confidence, which has contributed to his disappointing level of success during his career. I added a reference to this sentence, linking to Holt's very own blog in which he candidly talks about his lack of confidence and how it has impacted on his career. What better, more reliable source material can there be on a subject than something that has come from Holt himself? Yet this reference has been removed - why? Please explain this frustrating, baffling and, quite frankly, ludicrous decision. I was under the impression that Wikipedia was "a free encylopedia" that "anyone can edit". It would appear that is not the case. --Noj3000 (talk) 09:20, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Link for convenience: Michael Holt (snooker player) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Dismas|^(talk) 09:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The edit summary from the editor who removed it says that they did so because it's a blog. And I'd say that they are using Wikipedia:SPS#Self-published_sources as their justification. But... The editor doesn't seem to have read the very next section of that policy which states that blogs can be used if it's the subject talking about themselves. So, if it were me, I'd reinstate the source and use WP:ABOUTSELF as my justification. But... I'd remove the "He appears to need confidence to achieve his best results" line since this is original research where someone has read what Holt says about himself and then made a statement using their own judgement or opinion.

Oh, and yes, anyone can edit it. But not everyone is going to agree on just exactly what should be in an article. Dismas|^(talk) 09:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

SO can I re-insert the reference? Or will it just be removed again? How can I insert something and justify it's inclusion so that the editor does not remover it? It's like banging your head against a wall.--Noj3000 (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I would be wary of readding it yourself (Dismas has already done it for you anyway) because you have already done so a couple of times - you're basically involved in an edit-war, which can be grounds for a block. Whilst I agree with Dismas' assessment above (self-published sources can be used, with caution, to verify information about themselves), I'd still suggest discussing this with User:Spc 21 either on their talkpage or on the article talkpage if the dispute continues. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:05, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I was bold and already put it back in here. But yes, you could have done so as well. Generally, people use their edit summary to make a case for their edits. In this case, I spelled out just why I was putting it back in. And why I removed the text that I removed. Sometimes it is a bit like banging your head against a wall but often it's not. If need be, that's what the article's talk page is for, working out what should and should not be included in the article. Dismas|^(talk) 10:07, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for re-inserting the link, and thanks for clearing a few things up. I'm new to editing Wikipedia so am getting to frips with all the various aspects. Certainly, in future, I will use the edit summary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noj3000 (talk • contribs) 10:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Title subcategories

Resolved

I used the Move function to change a title from 'Buccaneer 18' to 'Buccaneer (dinghys)' which was successful. However, when using the wiki search function and typing Buccaneer, I do not see my new page title i.e. the only thing that works in the search box is the full title. Can someone please let me know how to change the page name so that it is viewable when Buccaneer is entered in the search box — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agbonner37 (talk • contribs) 12:25, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The "Search" box uses a copy of the main database which is typically updated once a day. If you wait 24 hours it will probably start working. See Help:Searching#Delay in updating the search index. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:33, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

It works for me now. There are many page names starting with "Buccaneer" and some characters are ignored so I don't get Buccaneer (dinghy) among the options displayed below the search box until typing "Buccaneer (d". This may never change. The top of Buccaneer has a link to Buccaneer (disambiguation) where John has manually updated [4] the first link under watercraft to say "Buccaneer (dinghy)" instead of "Buccaneer 18". This means everything now works as it should. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

It does not yeat work for me and there must be some way to make it work other than adding '(d ' as a suffix. Indeed, search Laser and you are able to see a subtitle of 'Laser (dinghy)'. I will wait until the 24 hours pass and hopefully that will do the trick. ((((( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agbonner37 (talk • contribs) 13:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Special:PrefixIndex/Laser and Special:PrefixIndex/Buccaneer both show too many articles to display all of them below the search box without entering more of the title. I don't know how the few displayed articles are chosen but please don't try to manipulate the system to get "your" article chosen over others. The intended way to find the article is to follow the disambiguation link at top of Buccaneer. Whether the autocomplete feature in the seach box happens to pick one article over another after entering one character more or less should not be a concern and could change at any time. Users with JavaScript disabled in their browsers don't have autocomplete at all, and the feature didn't even exist when I started here. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:32, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Aha. I did not think to look at the (disambiguation) subtitle because it did not register in my lexicon for unknown reasons. I do think that there might be a better word than disambiguation but it is not jumping out at the moment. However, please let me know why the original title of 'Buccaneer 18' is not in the disambiguation page since that was the original which i just changed to 'Buccaneer (dinghy)'. ))) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agbonner37 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

We work fast here at the help desk. As I said above, John has updated [5] the link in the disambiguation page. I tried to do it the same minute but he saved first. I have updated [6] the link in Template:Sailing dinghies and skiffs which is displayed in many articles, so there are currently only two articles left at Special:WhatLinksHere/Buccaneer 18. The English Wikipedia has hundreds of thousands of pages in Category:All article disambiguation pages. If the title indicates it's a disambiguation page then it nearly always ends with "(disambiguation)" so you are unlikely to get this practice changed. We even have the wonderfully named Disambiguation (disambiguation) with some amusing comments at Talk:Disambiguation (disambiguation)#A shining example of what a Wikipedia page should be. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Very amusing and I will consider getting a Websters Unabridged Dictionary in order to expand my vocabulary and usage. In fact, I am now feeling pretty good about my new word and there should be no need to change how wiki does business since I think I can adapt. Agbonner37 (talk) 16:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

And, i have added what i think is a signature to the above but if you can add a big check mark to theses exchanges then I think that can be done if it delineates that we have resolved all my help requests......thanks again Agbonner37 (talk) 16:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Second articles

I want to start a new article. My old article was accepted and is in Wikipedia. Can I delete it in my sandbox without affecting my first article? How can one work on two articles at once? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.92.192.152 (talk)

If your article has been moved and is in mainspace, then yes, you can delete your sandbox and reuse it. It may be that your sandbox has been left as a redirect, in which case you'll need to delete the redirect first. It would help if you could log in and post a link to the article and/or sandbox in question - your IP address has only ever edited this page, so we have no idea who you are or which pages you're talking about.

You can work on multiple articles by creating extra sandboxes; usually with the format User:YourUserName/NameOfArticleTopic. You can create as many of these as you need. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:28, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Update: The page is "The Recombination Hypothesis". My user name is hardy1956. They must be linked because I removed some of the page in my sandbox and it disappearred from the main article. Can you take out the linkage? Many thanx!!!

Your sandbox was redirected to The Recombination Hypothesis so you weren't actually editing your sandbox, you were editing The Recombination Hypothesis. I've fixed it for you.[7] --AussieLegend (talk) 14:29, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to all who replied and helped out!! hardy1956.

I have seen this happen on more than one occasion. Maybe there should be a reminder somewhere that when moving a user subpage draft to mainspace, it is probably not a good idea to leave behind a cross-namespace redirect?--ukexpat (talk) 15:33, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikilink of second or later instance of phrase.

Resolved

In determining which instance of a word/phrase should be wikilinked, under what conditions should that *not* be the first link instance of the word/phrase in the article? The only case I can think of is where what is wikilinked is part of the article name itself (for example, don't wikilink Freemason in the phrase 'Guatemalan Freemason Temples' in the article 'Guatemalan Freemason Temples'.) are there any guidelines? (for example, avoid wikilinking words/phrases in image descriptions if they exist elsewhere in the article??)Naraht (talk) 14:16, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, try reading the information on this page, Wikipedia:MOSLINK, this covers all the aspects of what should and should not be linked, and how to decide on the appropriateness of the link. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 18:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Not much specifically to that in the actual article, but the talk page for it seems a much more appropriate place to ask the question.Naraht (talk) 19:03, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Did you read this bit?

• Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes, tables, image captions, footnotes, and at the first occurrence after the lead.CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 20:06, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

hello

hello i would like to ask some one how i get my boyfriend from iraq here he is going to pay for visa and fare to get here i got to invite him how do i do that can u hellp me plz thnks donna louise kelly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.104.87 (talk) 15:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Mdann52 (talk) 15:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

It would help if you told us which country you live in, as the details will be different. Rojomoke (talk) 16:06, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

But whatever country you are in, you would be much better asking the authorities or professional advisers in your country than asking random people on the Internet (which is what you are doing by asking at Wikipedia). --ColinFine (talk) 17:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Gary A. Klein -> Gary Klein

Dear WIkipedia,

I am Gary Klein's research assistant, and have been trying to update his page. How do I change the page name from "Gary A. Klein" to "Gary Klein".

Also, I added 8 inline citations, but the page header still reads:

"This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations. (February 2008)"

I've read all the FAQ's and googled several searches, but I'm still at a loss.

Thank you in advanced, Jack

Jackmacro (talk) 17:07, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the "sources remain unclear" template, as the article does indeed now have inline citations. Good job!

The name thing is a bit more tricky. There seem to be several different people called Gary Klein that are notable, each for different things, so "Gary A. Klein" is useful as a way of being sure this is the Gary Klein we are talking about.

If I Google "Gary Klein" the first result I get is Wikipedia's entry Gary A. Klein, which Google helpfully previews as; "Gary Klein (born February 5, 1944 in New York City, New York, U.S.) is a research psychologist famous for pioneering in the field of naturalistic decision making." The second result is Wikipedia's disambiguation page for the name, which helpfully also lists the songwriter and the bicycle inventor.

A case could perhaps be made for removing the disambiguation page in order to lead any Wikipedia searcher directly to the better-known Gary Klein, but this would risk leaving people stranded if they were searching for the songwriter or the inventor. I'd welcome input from other Wikipedia editors on whether it would be appropriate in this case. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I'd say no. The psychologist is not particular notable over the inventor or the songwriter, so the current situation with the dab page is fine. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:26, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

If he is not generally known with his middle initial, an alternative would be to move it to a version of the name with a disambiguation, such as Gary Klein (psychologist). This can be requested at WP:Requested moves. January (talk) 18:38, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

My Chromosomal rearrangement contributions (to Wikiowdia) being used by others for their gain

2006-12-27

Supergenes were hypothesized to have evolved from less tightly-linked genes coming together via chromosomal rearrangement.

To start this topic, “chromosomal rearrangement” to develop as a Wikipedia topic, I have a few staring thoughts to define the definition for “chromosomal rearrangement”.

“Chromosomal rearrangement” is the change from source not common to normal human evolution.

Look at the actually physical molecular distance of the chromosome physical object to a high energy beam wavelength closest to the same distance is the key. This is a possible chromosomal rearrangement explication.

Chained NANO material working molecularly to understand these chromosomal rearrangements. Since the NANO material is very much larger than a chromosome, these NANO devices should be able to generate some type of energy to measure the differences in chromosomal rearrangement.

Look at pharmacology substance that interacts with environmental, technology devices as they exist in common human.

LINK: Chromosomal rearrangement

Tommy Carl Taylor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.216.108.253 (talk) 17:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, that article was started in 2004. You can see its complete editing history here. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:25, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

But there's no edit in its history on that date, so I don't know where you added this material. However, if you had added that material to an article, it would probably have been removed quite quickly, as it reads like original research, which is not allowed in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk)

If you published your ideas in Wikipedia, you have little recourse if others are making money from them anyway. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:22, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Or do you mean something else, like WikiIdea or some other name with "wiki" in it? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:28, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I think that possibly the article in question may be Supergene, though again I can't find the edit referred to. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:34, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Wierd section order on geographical location

Hi, randomly came across this article, Indian Harbour Beach, Florida, and the section ordering struck me as a little odd, what with "Public Safety" first. From a brief look at similar articles, it tends to go "History", "Geography", "Demographics" and so on, had a quick root around WP:(thingy), but couldn't find a specific guideline, anyone want to reorder the article's sections into a more Wikipedia-style format, and post the guideline or MOS that lays this out? cheers. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 19:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

If other articles follow a similar layout, I would just go ahead and edit the section order of this one to match.--ukexpat (talk) 19:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, for sure, but i'm just certain that there is a template/guideline for town/city/county/country articles somewhere in the entrails of the Wikiservers! CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 19:22, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The folks at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography may know.--ukexpat (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Cool, I'll go put the question to them. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 19:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:USCITY is what you want. Nyttend (talk) 21:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Brilliant, exactly what I was looking for. Cheers. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 21:56, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Deleted revisions not in log

I cannot find the log for the deleted revisions of User:RAIDENRULES123. What happened here? Ryan Vesey 21:47, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Probably Wikipedia:Oversight GB fan 21:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

It can't be oversight because no content was removed, just the revisions. Oversight would never remove a revision of edit history if it didn't also revert the information. Ryan Vesey 22:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

It was oversight. I'm an admin and cannot see the oversighted revisions. We don't know their content. We can only see the change in total size. The page content after the latest edit is visible but not the diff. The user probably removed some content but added more so the page became bigger. It doesn't require a revert to remove content. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:15, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Presumably the oversight action was performed after Heatherawalls edited it, since you're correct that the latest revision can't be removed. Note that this is not real oversight — it's just a form of WP:REVDEL that only oversighters can perform and un-perform. If it were real oversight, nobody would even be able to see that the revisions once existed. Nyttend (talk) 00:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Quite possibly this might be related to the oversight action. --Robert Keiden (talk) 06:34, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see what you mean now. It doesn't appear like an appropriate oversight to me. Is there any way to find out who performed the oversight? Can another oversighter check? Ryan Vesey 20:25, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Suppression, which is techincally what was performed. The technical oversight tool deletes the revision, while suppression is essentially revision deletion that is logged in Special:Log/oversight (invisible to non-OS) and hides revisions from administrators in addition to non-admins. Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:35, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

The point of oversight is to avoid attention for something. Please stop speculating publicly. Email an oversighter if you have an issue. They can see logs. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

September 12

My edits are constantly being cancelled

Hi,

I've made a small addition to the page on Fluid Intelligence. My edit was related to citing two papers disproving memory training benefits. However, my edits are always being cancelled by user User:Cresix: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fluid_and_crystallized_intelligence&diff=511934732&oldid=511925512

He also sockpuppeted me because I edited from work and home PCs.

I took the references to the papers from another wiki page on N-back. I believe that without these references article on Fluid Intelligence is biased and one-sided.

My question: is there a wikipedia committee to resolve the conflict and prove User:Cresix wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runig (talk • contribs) 02:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

There are various escalating stages of WP:Dispute resolution. The first is to try to reach consensus with the other involved editor(s). Have you tried to discuss on the talk page of the relevant article?--ukexpat (talk) 04:30, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

My request in Dispute Resolution has been closed because of "too short discussion on the talk page". However, User:Cresix just deletes my edits and refuses to talk. What I'm trying to tell him is that even my edits are far from being perfect, they worth leaving because somebody else better than be may see them and edit in the most appropriate way. This is the idea behind wikipedia, isn't it?

Edit Conflict

Why do I keep 'losing' edit conflicts? Do admins have an upper hand on edit conflicts? --Niàobùmíxìn (talk) 00:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Not at all. Have you read WP:EC? Basically the way it works is that whoever saves first "wins", and the second person to save "loses"; it's simply that you're consistently saving after other people. Are you often attempting to edit high-traffic pages? If so, that will increase your rate of edit conflicts, since the greater the frequency with which a page is edited, the greater the chance you'll get into an edit conflict. Nyttend (talk) 00:43, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

And if you did read WP:EC, did you then turn to Help:Edit conflict? —Tamfang (talk) 07:41, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

See Help:Edit conflict for how it works. The software doesn't favor admins but experienced users may know ways to reduce the risk of edit conflicts on frequently edited pages. Mainly: Make section edits and save quickly after clicking edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Also, you have a biased view since it's hard to tell when you "win" since you don't get any notification of having won. You notice the conflict because you get stopped. Dismas|^(talk) 01:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

title redirect

Hello: There are wikipedia pages about people who use several names, for example, James Brown aka. John Smith If there is a wikipedia page for James Brown, is it possible that if someone searches for John Smith it will automatically redirect to the article on James Brown?

Thanks

Adam2828 (talk) 01:26, 12 September 2012 (UTC)adam2828Adam2828 (talk) 01:26, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Please read WP:Redirect. It all depends on whether we've created redirects for the alternate names, or if several people use the alternate name, if we've set up a disambiguation page for that name. Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samuel_Clemens&action=edit to see what we do for Mark Twain's real name, for example. Nyttend (talk) 01:36, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Facebook

how do i share infomation with facebook??Abuabdulhakimmujahid (talk) 03:13, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried asking them? [8] This help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia, not Facebook. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

If you'd like to share a Wikipedia article on Facebook, you can copy the URL of the page and paste it into your status like you would with any other web page. Or you can use Sharebox. Dismas|^(talk) 03:36, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

New Article

I am trying to create a new article. I tried the Article Wizard and it gives advice about various aspects, but it does not say how to actually create a new article. Could you please explain how to actually create a new article and a redirect.

Thanks

Adam2828 (talk) 04:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)adam2828Adam2828 (talk) 04:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Did you follow all the steps in the wizard? Alternatively, take a look at Your first article and Articles for creation.--ukexpat (talk) 04:28, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Go to a page such as your user talk page (the blue-linked "talk" in your signature), add a link to the page you wish to create, click the link, and you'll be presented with a page where you can create the new article. To add a link to that page, just click the "edit" tab at the top of the screen when you're on your user talk page, and at the very bottom, put the name of the article in double brackets. For example, if you were trying to create an article on something called a "humuhumuhumunukunukunukuapuaa", you'd type [[humuhumuhumunukunukunukuapuaa]], and it would appear as humuhumuhumunukunukunukuapuaa. Nyttend (talk) 04:29, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

As far as redirects: take the name of the article to which you want the redirect to go, put that name (and absolutely nothing else) into the edit window, highlight it, and click the little #R button above the edit window. That will supply the code to make a redirect; it should look like #REDIRECT [[Adam2828's redirect]] when you're done. Again, please don't put any other text on the page; with comparatively few exceptions with which you need not worry yet, putting extra text on a redirect page will prevent it from working properly. Nyttend (talk) 04:32, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

More direct than Nyttend's procedure: enter the proposed title in the Search box at the top of any page; either you'll be taken to an existing article or you'll see (among other things) You may create the page "Gratuitous gibberish", but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered. Click any red link to create an article. —Tamfang (talk) 19:52, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Cicadas live in Mobile,Alabama they are all over the big oaks in my yard. Thank You.

Cicadas live in Mobile,Alabama they are all over the big oaks in my yard.I have been picking up the shells for many of the 75 years I have been here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.233.0 (talk) 04:52, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks for sharing that story with us. Do you have a question about using Wikipedia we can help you with? --Jayron32 04:54, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Article Vandalized, but not visible in Edit mode

The article "Antikythera mechanism" has been vandalized a few times in the past day, and is currently. Under the "Nature" section, the first line was changed. However the problem is when I go to edit mode, the vandalized part is is not there. Furthermore the change was not noted in the revision log as far as I could see. The last edit was by ClueBot NG correcting the previous vandalized part. I cleared my history/cookies, no change, I still can't see it. Unknowntbeast (talk) 05:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Since there was no changes in the edit mode, I simply submitted the changes (which I made none) and it reverted back to non-vandalized. Problem solved, but still odd how it didn't appear in the revision log or in edit mode. Unknowntbeast (talk) 06:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

You saw a cached version from before ClueBot NG reverted the vandalism. If it doesn't work to bypass your cache then try to purge the page. Normally I would say you can see the time of the displayed revision at the bottom where it says "This page was last modified on [date] at [time]". However, in this case the vandalism and revert was the same minute so the displayed time wouldn't have revealed which version you saw. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

What you did is known as performing a null edit. Since the problem was an old edit in the cache, and since a null edit clears the cache, you did precisely the right thing without realising it :-) Nyttend (talk) 15:19, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

legal terminology?

would the term on or about stand up in a court of law — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.169.85.72 (talk) 07:57, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

This is the Help Desk, which answers questions about using and finding your way around Wikipedia. We have a Reference Desk, but it does not offer legal advice or opinion on specific cases. If this is a general question, there are some resources online about the phrase's meaning in US law that you could look at. This site cites its sources, which you could check. It suggests that the wording "on or about" is used in courts of law in the context of an accusation, when there is any uncertainty about an exact date or location, in order to avoid the accuser being accused of inaccuracy. For example, if it reads "On or about 5 April, the accused did X...", X cannot then refute the accusation on the grounds that s/he actually did X at three minutes before midnight on 4 April. This site suggests that it may not be a recognised phrase in other legal contexts. If you want to discuss the use of the phrase in a specific legal case, the Reference Desk Wikipedia cannot help you and you should consult someone who is qualified to provide such advice. - Karenjc 08:39, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Uploading Images

Hi all,

im having a bit of trouble with my private wiki (personal server) at the moment. im currently trying to get some images to display on one of my articles. i have edited the local settings.php which means i can successfully upload images, but when i try and display them using the file:blah.jpg code the image doesn't display, it just shows up with a broken link icon ><

it seems to me its a problem with authorization but i cant seem to find where, is it a server problem? or do i have to authorize the use of images somewhere? any help with this would be fantastic as im really stuck.

Nix Nixxy00 (talk) 08:52, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Added a title Rojomoke (talk) 09:27, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Nixxy00. This is the page to ask questions about one particular wiki, Wikipedia. For a more general question like this one, a place to start might be the Wikipedia's computing and IT reference desk. They may be able to give you more help. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:35, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

If you are using the same MediaWiki software that is used here, you should explore the help pages and forums at the MediaWiki project. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:44, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

ok thank you both for your advice

nix Nixxy00 (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

How to upload images

I did a recce trek of Mustang in Nepal in 1980 when it was restricted to trekkers. I have scanned my personal hand-written notes/diary and photos that I would like to share with everyone through Wikipedia. I would appreciate directions (eg. image size, etc.) on how I could upload these images. Thank you. Phurba Lama (talk) 12:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Standard image upload advice follows:

• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
• If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.Template:Z40--ukexpat (talk) 14:57, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

avoiding automatic redirects

At the top of a Wikipedia page is an advertisement for "Wiki loves monuments". I'm interested in this contest, but since I am physically located in Ukraine, I am directed to a page in Ukrainian language. I'm american and read English. While I know some russian language, I do not know any Ukrainian language. {Although Ukrainian is official language of Ukraine, very few people know it. Everyone speaks Russian.) Certainly the rules for this contest must be available in english language. [Translation services such as yahoo and google do not provide an understandable translation.]

Is there some way that I can access the English language version of this page while I am physically located in Ukraine? The page url is http://wlm.org.ua/?pk_campaign=Centralnotice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.28.240.253 (talk) 12:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't know how to avoid those automatic redirects, but after a bit of searching I found the Wiki Loves Monuments home page. From there you can access all the English-language pages. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:39, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Getting random pages by email once a day

Can I get random wiki pages via email? Is it possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.152.239.219 (talk) 13:43, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't offer such a service but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random gives a new random article each time you click it. Is that sufficient? It's the link you get by clicking "Random article" below Wikipedia's logo. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:47, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Question about redirects

I did some editing on the Cousin page last night. It had been pointed out that Great Uncle, Grand Uncle, Great Aunt, and Grand Aunt, were redirected to the Cousin page. I fixed this by changing the redirects to Uncle and Aunt respectively, just as Great Grandfather/grandmother/grandparent are redirected to the Grandparent page. It was an easy edit, but it made me wonder if there were any other terms redirecting to the page.

Is there a way to see a list of all terms redirecting to a specific page? Thanks in advance. Shoeless Ho (talk) 15:19, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes. When you're looking at an article, you should see a "What links here" link in the toolbox at the left, and then, near the top of that page, the line "External tools: Show redirects only". For Cousin, the toolbox page is Special:WhatLinksHere/Cousin, and the list of redirects is this list. Apparently there are 117 of them! -- John of Reading (talk) 15:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! I redirected a bunch of them to more appropriate pages. Now there are "only" 88 redirects to cousin. The rest I redirected to more appropriate pages (e.g. familial relationships to Family, great granduncle to Uncle, Great grandaunt to Aunt, etc). No wonder the talk page was filled with questions like "so my uncle is my cousin?" :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoeless Ho (talk • contribs) 16:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Copyright updates at Wiki Commons

I found a couple of notices relative to my uploads at wiki commons for things that I have included at 'Buccaneer (dinghy)'. Can you help me figure out what needs to be done to these uploads in order to prevent them from being removed due to unanswered copyright questions Agbonner37 (talk) 15:27, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

You should probably ask at Commons Help Desk.--ukexpat (talk) 16:51, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

I have done that but no response as yet. Will keep waiting. Agbonner37 (talk) 17:40, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing the files in question are File:Buccaneer Logo 2012.JPG and File:Buccaneerlinedrawing.pdf. I'm not a copyright specialist but there may be a query over whether you actually hold the copyright in the images, which you have uploaded as "own work". If you take a picture of an image created by someone else - such as a drawing or painting, or a logo - and the copyright owner's copyright hasn't expired, then they still own the copyright in the image so you can't license it for reuse in the way Wikipedia requires. The line drawing says on it that you were given it by someone else - the person who owns the copyright on that line drawing will need to license it themselves, personally. Wikipedia does use logos under a fair use rationale, but the image has to comply with certain conditions and be appropriately licensed. The third image on the article - the photo of Buccaneers racing - says it's your own work too. If you took it and you're happy to donate it, there shouldn't be a problem with that one. If you're not getting any luck at the Commons help desk, the nice people at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions might be able to advise further. - Karenjc 19:31, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Language boxs

Hi there, I am editing my Wikipedia 'userpage' and I want to show other users what languages I can speak. Where can I find those "This user speaks ....." templates? Thanks! --CverilMineralResources (talk) 15:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Hej, jeg redigere min Wikipedia 'userpage' og jeg ønsker at vise andre brugere hvilke sprog jeg kan tale. Hvor kan jeg finde dem "Denne bruger taler ....." skabeloner? Tak! --CverilMineralResources (talk) 15:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:BABEL? Mdann52 (talk) 16:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes that's fine, thank you very much! --CverilMineralResources (talk) 16:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Ja det er fint, mange tak! - CverilMineralResources (talk) 16:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

User on English Wikipedia

I am the owner of the User Kotz in the Hebrew Wikipedia he:משתמש:Kotz. I would like to be also the user Kotz on the English Wikipedia. However if I try "Create an account" I get "username taken". I was told to login to English wikipedia with same username and password I use on Hebrew Wikipedia but this gives me "Wrong password". I don't think there is a user by that name on English Wikipedia. What should I do in order to gain access to the user Kotz in the English Wikipedia? Thanks. 109.67.211.220 (talk) 16:53, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:UNSURP ? Mdann52 (talk) 16:57, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The account User:Kotz was created on the English Wikipedia by someone else, but it's never been used. You should be able to usurp the account, although this will take some time to process. For full instructions on how to request this, see WP:USURP. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

First log in at the Hebrew Wikipedia and go to he:Special:MergeAccount to unify your account. Then request the English account at WP:USURP. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:38, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Prostitution in the Faroe Islands

I am creating/writing an article for Wikipedia on Prostitution in the Faroe Islands, however some of my references are from a PDF file created by the Nordic Council, so can I use the link to the PDF file as a reference? Thanks! --CverilMineralResources (talk) 17:13, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, if the PDF has been "published" - just use the {{Cite web}} template to cite it. What you cannot do is upload an unpublished PDF file to, say, Wikimedia Commons and use it as a reference from there.--ukexpat (talk) 17:44, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Cory Monteith

Hi, I'm fan of Canadian actor Cory Monteith, and his biography tells his story of rehab after being an alcoholic and drug addict, as well as being a "petty thief". Aren't there categories such as "People who recovered from drug addiction", or "People who recovered from alcoholism", or "People who committed petty crimes and rehabilitated"? and If not, could they be created? Thank you and sorry to bother you. I'm new to Wikipedia. Timothyhere (talk) 19:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

For the "[...] alcoholic and drug addict [...] part, there are Category:People self-identifying as alcoholics and its parent category Category:People self-identifying as substance abusers. I don't see a category for "petty thieves" that weren't part of organized crime, and I don't think one should be created for living people (see WP:BLPCAT). By the way, if you think a category might exist but don't know its name, you can try finding it using Portal:Contents/Categories or Category:Contents. PleaseStand (talk) 21:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)