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    September 6

    Deleting Articles

    How do you nominate an article for deletion, or just delete it? Rj1020 (talk) 01:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You have to be an admin to delete an article. Normal users can tag the article if it qualifies for speedy deletion criteria. If it doesn't qualify for CSD, but you think that it's not suitable, you can propose for deletion of the aricle. You can find how to tag articles for CSD or nominate it for deletion from these pages. Check the deletion policy and Articles for deletion for more details. Hope this helps. Cheers. Chamal Talk 01:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Image Technical Difficulties - Wesley College, Melbourne

    Hi, The article: Wesley College, Melbourne has just been reviewd to become an GA article unfortunately the reviewer has has some techincal difficulties with the images on the article.

    S/he wrote: "Image placement causes problems on my screen, whichever of my two available browsers I use. On Mozilla Firefox, the subsection edit links become displaced, and all bunch together around the Sport section On Internet Explorer that problem doesn't arise, but instead a huge white space appears under the Facilties heading. I tried solving the problem by some experimental image placements, but this didn't work. I wonder if either of these problems occur on your screen? Whether they do or not, it's something that needs fixing, and I don't know how to do this. I suggest you take the problem to WP:Help."

    If anyone has any ideas, suggestions or solutions on fixing this issue please help by leaving advice on the article's talk page!!

    Thanks in advance! Sheepunderscore (talk) 03:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I've arranged one of the problematic groups of articles into a gallery. How does it look? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:08, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Solutions for the edit link bunching are listed at WP:BUNCH. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 10:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Can an article be closed to editing?

    Can someone make an order prohibiting anyone from making edits? The Detroit article isn't page protected but there is a warning saying the article is "mature" and tells people not to edit the history section. (Polite way of saying "fuck off"). Is this improper? Isn't every article open to editing as long as it is constructive, in good faith, and hopefully referenced?

    Someone could protect the article, but that would likely be seen as abuse, as, like you said, every article is open to constructive editing, and no article is perfect. However, some people have emotional attachment to their version of the article, not realizing that further edits can only improve. I would discourage them from doing so, but it isn't against any policy per se, I think. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    What s/he is talking about is the hidden comment under the "History" section in the article Detroit, Michigan. It says "PLEASE MAKE FURTHER CONTRIBUTIONS TO "HISTORY OF DETROIT" DAUGHTER ARTICLE for stuff older than 2008. THIS SECTION IS MATURE up to September 5, 2008." « Gonzo fan2007 (talkcontribs) @ 03:51, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, as in a request to have edits placed on a forked-off article? That's OK... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 04:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The comment originates from this edit and should not be interpreted as an order prohibiting anyone from making edits. Detroit, Michigan#History is a summary section for History of Detroit, Michigan. Some editors keep piling stuff on summary sections instead of editing the corresponding full article and this sounds like a reaction to that. The summary section already looks long and probably shouldn't be extended with more things from the history of Detroit, but changing other details might be OK. I don't know enough about Detroit to say whether some existing things could reasonably be removed to make space for other things, but it's a featured article so you should probably be careful and maybe discuss on the talk page if you want to remove things. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I've re-worded the comment for clarity (and lower-cased it for accessibility). Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy Mabbett; Andy Mabbett's contributions 13:37, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Good work. The previous version did, unintentionally, convey an unnecessary "fuck off" message. Yours is far better. AndyJones (talk) 20:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    As an article improves, progressively fewer Wikipedia editors have the skills and knowledge to improve it further. When an article reaches featured status, there may only be a handful of editors who could still improve it. Think of a community art project, where everybody gets to throw paint at a wall. At first, lots of people could "improve" a blank wall, but once some real art starts to take shape, eventually only a few really good artists could make it better. As an article on Wikipedia gets better, one way or another it has to get a lot less welcoming for all but the best editors, if the article is to maintain its quality. Fortunately, on Wikipedia only a tiny percentage of articles are that good yet. There are enough backlogged tasks to keep editors at every skill level busy for years. Less fortunately, it seems lots of people are more interested in editing particular topics (whose articles may or may not need help) than in directing their efforts to Wikipedia's areas of greatest need. The popularity of various articles probably follows something like a power law or Pareto distribution, with a few popular articles getting lots of attention, and at the other end we have vast numbers of obscure articles which get few views or edits. Incidentally, if anyone is tired of edit warring and wants to see their work "stick," try editing the most obscure, initially low-quality articles you can find. (Check an article's history; look for articles that have languished a long time with few edits.) It's usually easy to improve a poor-quality article, and if it is also a neglected article, your edits are more likely to stick. --Teratornis (talk) 03:11, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello

    I am testing at the sandbox and I keep getting lots of edit conflicts. Can anyone specify A quieter time? 89.242.19.188 (talk) 04:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Sadly, that will always happen with the sandbox, since thousands of people use it. You can always just make test editson your own talk page though, and no one will conflict with you there. « Gonzo fan2007 (talkcontribs) @ 04:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec, ironically) Or you can make your changes in the sandbox's edit window, but click show preview to see how the page would look but not save the edit. You'll never get an edit conflict that way. WODUP 08:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Perhaps welcome messages should include a link to [[/sandbox]], so that each user has their own? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy Mabbett; Andy Mabbett's contributions 13:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    New pages in a category

    Is there any way to find out the new added pages of a certain category or several categories in recent days? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.73.153.32 (talk) 08:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See Help:Category#Detection of additions to a category. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:32, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Signature problems

    Hi,

    I'm trying to get a new signature that links to the WP:SIMPLE and WP:P&G pages automatically, in a clever and aesthetic way. I'm getting the error message when I try to save "Invalid raw signature; check HTML tags." The text I'm using is:

    [[User:WLU|WLU]] [[User talk:WLU|(talk)]] <sup><small>[[WP:SIMPLE|Wiki's simple rules]]</small></sup><sub><small>[[WP:P&G|Wiki's complex rules]]</small></sub>

    Which shows up as:WLU (talk) Wiki's simple rulesWiki's complex rules

    but when I test it, I get what's showing up here. Any suggestions? I've tried checking and unchecking the Raw signature box, for naught. WLU (talk) Wiki's simple rulesWiki's complex rules 12:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Try this, with the tags inside the links.
    [[User:WLU|WLU]] [[User talk:WLU|(talk)]] [[WP:SIMPLE|<sup><small>Wiki's simple rules</small></sup>]][[WP:P&G|<sub><small>Wiki's complex rules</small></sub>]]
    It's probably because of the tags being outside the wikilinks. Chamal Talk 12:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yep, that causes all sorts of trouble. All tags have to be inside the wikilinks or they don't work (as I know from experience with my signature!!) --Alinnisawest,Dalek Empress (extermination requests here) 13:07, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Lovely, thanks. Is it just me, or does that completely contradict this? I'll test in a bit. [[User:WLU|WLU]] [[User talk:WLU|(talk)]] <sup><small>[[WP:SIMPLE|Wiki's simple rules]]</small></sup><sub><small>[[WP:P&G|Wiki's complex rules]]</small></sub> (talk) 13:40, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No, some tags can be placed outside. It's probably preferable, but I leave them inside to be sure they'll work. Also, make sure you check the box below your signature in your preferences, or it won't view it as a raw signature. --Alinnisawest,Dalek Empress (extermination requests here) 02:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I've finally, after several hours of trying, managed to get it to work. From a WHOLE BUNCH of testing and fiddling, the problem seemed to be the & in the [[WP:P&G]] link I tried to include. Moved the markup tags inside, outside of the tags, I changed the link and that was the only thing that let me save my raw preferences. So, for what it's worth, don't include any punctuation if you want a fancy signature. WLU (talk) Wikipedia's rulessimple/complex 02:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    (undent) Sometimes I wonder how much better Wikipedia could be if all the millions of hours of labor that has gone into fiddling with signatures (which only has the effect of wasting yet more labor by making talk page comments that much harder to decipher) instead went into improving the encyclopedia. --Teratornis (talk) 02:48, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't argue with you there, but my signature has a message. Take that vandals, now you've got no excuse!
    My other excuse is "how else would I have learned what a hex triplet is"? WLU (talk) Wikipedia's rules(simplified) 03:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    JMU, Rankings, Forbes.com

    Forbes.com ranks JMU 22nd in the nation among public colleges. I am trying to cite this. If I had an email address for an editor I could forward the Forbes article from the August 2008 edition. Can you give me an email address to forward this to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockx (talkcontribs) 13:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you have set an e-mail address in your User preferences, you can exchange e-mails with other users through the Wikipedia user interface. To do that, visit your correspondent's user page and follow the "E-mail this user" link in the "toolbox" on the left-side navigation menu. The e-mail address you entered in your user preferences will appear as the "From" address of the mail, so the recipient will be able to reply.
    However, why don't you simply use the hyperlink to that article?
    Cheers mate!
    Λuα (Operibus anteire) 14:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, what the other editor's {{fact}} is asking for is a citation to the Forbes article in the JMU article. —teb728 t c 17:32, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Especially since Forbes seems to be ranking it at 195.[1] --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:55, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Linking User Pages

    Resolved

    I've made my account global, recently, and I don't feel like making tons of other user wikis. Is it possible to just link my name to my Wikipedia user page? Specifically my Commons one? I haven't made a Commons user page yet. But also not just signatures, like in the information of images I've uploaded (e.g.). Thanks for helping. Helixer (talk) 17:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You can't (as yet) make your contributions on Commons link directly to your en.wiki userpage, but you can link to it from your Commons userpage. You could use commons:Template:Notify me, for example. Algebraist 18:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you want you can do as I've done on other wikis and use the {{Softredirect}} template on each user page outside of your main one. -Optigan13 (talk) 02:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll try the soft redirect for know. Thanks! Helixer (talk) 04:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    After I figured out how to use it, it works really well. Thanks again! Helixer (talk) 04:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Any way to change the default search language at www.wikipedia.org main page?

    It seems that the top page (www.wikipedia.org) defaults the language of my search to my local language (Finnish), based on my IP I guess...
    I rarely use the Finnish Wikipedia and the new feature is really a major annoyance for a long time user. It just seems impossible for me to learn a new way to enter English Wikipedia by going directly to en.wikipedia.org. :/ Is there any way to default the search to English Wikipedia instead of the local language? Couldn't find any information about this by searching.

    Turre (talk) 17:54, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Try bookmarking en.wikipedia.org instead of www.wikipedia.org. —teb728 t c 18:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Simple suggestion, but I'm looking for some other way to do this. I prefer not to use bookmarks. Turre (talk) 21:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know if that works, but did you try altering the language in your preferences ? Equendil Talk 19:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I tried that, but it only affects the language of en.wikipedia.org Turre (talk) 21:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I know that just typing in en.wikipedia.org will work because on holiday in Greece I was able to access the en.wiki from there internet cafes so I dont see why it shouldnt work. If it doesnt then your best bet is to go onto google and search for it, google will then take you onto en.wikipedia without any questions asked at all. BountyHunter2008 (talk) 19:30, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I know going directly to en.wikipedia.org works, but I'm looking for a way to default all searches from www.wikipedia.org to English Wikipedia. I guess there is no simple way to do that... I wish there was a cookie or something that would remember the last setting used. Turre (talk) 21:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Why go to www.wikipedia.org or en.wikipedia.org at all, if all you want to do is search? You could install the en.wikipedia search bar directly in your browser, or use a bookmark that allows you to do the same thing in the address bar (this is in FF; I don't know about other browsers). Algebraist 21:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    What if you browse through a proxy server based in an English-speaking country (England, US, Canada, etc)? — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 22:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    (undent) Why don't you like bookmarks? What browser are you using? --Teratornis (talk) 02:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing Leeds

    Evening Wikipedia,

    FANtastic job on wikipedia but there's a really specific thing I need to know and here goes.

    On the page 'Leeds', I'd love to be able to change the population so that it says

    Primary Urban Area: 457,247 Metropolitan: 761,100 Urban: 1,499,465 Leeds City Region: 2,125,000

    I can provide evidence for all these if needed. I just don't know how. Every time I've tried to do it, it's always been deleted.

    Please get back to me on (redacted)

    I'm so untrained in Wikipedia talk.

    Yours sincerely

    Tom —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tubs uk (talkcontribs) 19:31, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Tom - thanks for the message. I've removed your email address (this page is quite visible on the internet, so you don't want to be posting your personal email all over it). Whereabouts it your source for this information? Can you post a link either here, on my talk page or on your talk page? GbT/c 19:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Some Wiki Browser

    I read something on a Wikipedia page about a special browser for browsing Wikipedia where did I read it? --Melab±1 19:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Gollum browser? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Or AutoWikiBrowser for editing (user authorisation required)? – ukexpat (talk) 20:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Look on the Editor's index, for example WP:EIW#Browser. You can also search the Wikipedia: namespace with {{Google custom}}:
    which finds a bunch of pages that the Editor's index already lists, but sometimes a Google search finds more stuff. --Teratornis (talk) 02:41, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I execute JS

    How do I execute Javascript in my monobook.js page? It says if it is a .js page it will be executed. --Melab±1 19:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried Bypassing your cashe?
    Cheers mate!
    Λuα (Operibus anteire) 20:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Anything in your monobook.js will be executed as javascript when viewing any page on en.wikipedia with the monobook (default) skin enabled. At a quick glance (and as someone who doesn't know javascript), you seem to have a bunch of functions and nothing telling them to execute. Algebraist 20:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It's the MD5 hash js. -- Melab±1 22:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Article count

    The top of the Main Page of the English Wikipedia says that there are 2,406,797 articles! The bottom of the page says there are 2,544,785 articles. Which is right? Both link to the statistics pages, which lists the figure at the top? Did you really delete over 100,000 articles?SPNic (talk) 21:16, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    That number is given using the magic word {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} which looks like this: 6,867,549. For some reason there is a difference on the main page but it seems the later is correct. Scottydude review 21:24, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The number at the top uses {{Actual number of articles}} which subtracts disambiguation pages to give a more accurate number. The bottom number is just all articles given by the magic word stated above. Hope this helps. Scottydude review 21:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    {{Actual number of articles}} also subtracts 1 for the main page. Unfortunately, the subtraction of disambigs uses PAGESINCATEGORY, which is unreliable. Algebraist 21:30, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Recovering an account / username

    I had a username that I really liked, User:Short Brigade Harvester Boris, but made the password too secure and didn't have email enabled. Is there any way to revive it? That account name was openly associated with my RL identity (as is my present account), so I can verify that I'm the actual owner of that account in case it matters. I think this is a long shot but thought I'd ask. Thanks - Basil "Basil" Fawlty (talk) 21:54, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm afraid nothing can be done. Algebraist 22:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, I guessed that would be the case. Is there any way I could create a very similar username with a slight variation of punctuation or capitalization, say Short Brigade Harvester "Boris" or something like that? Usually the system kicks out usernames that are too close to existing names but WP:ACC suggests it might be possible. Basil "Basil" Fawlty (talk) 22:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, any admin can bypass that feature, and you can request that this be done at WP:ACC. Or you could request that your current account be renamed at WP:CHU. Algebraist 22:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Great, thanks. Basil "Basil" Fawlty (talk) 22:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    September 7

    Userboxes

    I want to create a userbox such as {{improvearticle|PARAMETER}}, where this would produce a userbox requesting the article stated as the parameter. I can make a basic userbox but I've no idea how to code parameters. Any help? :) Thanks —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 00:23, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you checked out {{Currentlybox}} and Help:Variable for starters? -Optigan13 (talk) 00:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Help:Template#Parameters is more like what you are looking for. You need to put {{{1|default}}} in the userbox template code where you want "PARAMETER" to appear, "default" being the text you want to see if no parameter is entered (it can be null if you want). SpinningSpark 00:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I love the help desk :) Cheers! —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 00:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You might want to also take a look at Template:Articleissues which may do what you want already. SpinningSpark 00:54, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    And see Wikipedia:WikiProject Inline Templates and Wikipedia:WikiProject Templates. --Teratornis (talk) 02:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Uploading Pictures?

    I would like to upload the cover for a single onto a page, but i can't because i don't have a clue how to, can anyone help me? ChillaxNOW (talk) 09:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChillaxNOW (talkcontribs) 09:55, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you are an autoconfirmed editor which means that you have been on wikipedia for more than 4 days and have edited more than 10 times then all you have to do is go to the upload file which is in the toolbox which can be found on the left hand side of the screen. You then browse for the image you want to upload and say where you want it to be uploaded to. Hope that helps BountyHunter2008 (talk) 10:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless the image is in the public domain or under some free license (very unlikely), you will need to provide a fair use rationale for the image. The template, {{album cover fur}} is probably what you're looking for. Please see Image:It's Over.jpg in edit mode for an example of how to fill out the template's information parameters.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Auto confirmed user message

    Resolved

     – ukexpat (talk) 14:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi guys, Today I have been using NPwatcher, when I take action on a new page by marking it as Blatant advert or no Notability etc this message appears "The action you have requested is limited to Autoconfirmed users, Administrators." It does not prevent the speedy deletion box appearing on the page, It is just a bit annoying. I have used NPwatcher before and never has this message appeared. and I know what Autoconfirmed user is all about I can not work out why it is happening. I have done well over 1000 edits on wikipedia.--Theoneintraining (talk) 10:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry people forget about my question, I logged into Wikipedia with NPwacther and problem is solved sorry for the inconvenience.--Theoneintraining (talk) 10:20, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi. I'm trying to transclude a navbox into another navbox. My intent is to sweep some narrow-range navboxes as a collapsable subgroup of a broad-scope navbox; I am aware of the existance of Template:Navbox with collapsible groups but it doesn't seem to be designed to work with transclusion (I'd like to transclude these other navboxes because they do change slightly from time to time and I'd hate to have to make those changes twice). I have tried simply transcluding the navboxes into the mother navboxes under a new group, but they don't integrate very well and look horrible with the borders. I was thinking that if it was possible to transclude the smaller navboxes, but modify a parameter during the transclusion, it would be possible; is that realistic? Thanks. bahamut0013 11:49, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you provide an example or two of your attempts ? Equendil Talk 15:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Here is a diff for you: [2]. bahamut0013 11:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Vanuatu Articles

    G'day, first off, i know this is going to be the wrong place to post my questions. For a first time user of Wikipedia, it took me 2 hours just to find this page. Anyway, i am looking to make contact with an Editor to OK my post in regards to Vanuatu and it's Islands.

    I have added content to one of my websites, and need to know if i have the correct Copyright info showing, and second, i wrote an article on my website regarding a Vanuatu Island, and then added that to Wikipedia in the correct section, which had very little before i did. I have also added a link to Wikipedia for this article, but i am the Author.

    I would like an Editor to look at both of my sites, and the Wikipedia article i edited http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aore_Island , and give me the OK. As i am not a lawyer, i find it very difficult to understand exactly what is required if i use Wikipedia content, and vice versa, and the correct linking, copyright and Author tags etc. I would appreciate it somebody could help me out with this please. I will forward all relevant links to the person who helps me with this. Maxeaus (talk) 15:33, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Please refer to this.Also note the fine print at the bottom "All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License".
    Your contribution looks OK to me, but I didn't look deep into it.
    Cheers mate!
    Λuα (Operibus anteire) 15:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the quick response on that, any other thoughts or comments (from editors) would be appreciated also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxeaus (talkcontribs) 17:35, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Well nothing really regarding your questions, but a little on your confusion. Just to clarify, everyone is an editor of Wikipedia. "... the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Although its great to have your edits on Wikipedia reviewed, its not necessary, be bold. Happy editing, and Welcome to Wikipedia! Scottydude review 18:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you want to reuse Wikipedia content, see the links under WP:EIW#Reusing. Wikipedia is extremely complicated. Everything you need to know to use Wikipedia is in the online help (see the Editor's index for a mind-numbingly complete overview), but getting all that information into your head so you know what to do requires considerable work. Wikipedia is one of the world's most popular Web sites, and a Web site doesn't get to be so popular by being simple. "Simple" generally equates to "powerless" which equates to "not interesting to many people." That doesn't mean everything which is complicated becomes popular, but every popular Web site is complicated. With popular sites like Google, the complexity is mostly behind the scenes, but on Wikipedia, every user can be an editor, so all the complexity is right on the surface where we can drown in it. Wikipedia is a do it yourself project, so it's up to every user to decide how much to do with it. If you want a structured introduction, you could get the book Wikipedia - The Missing Manual, although the book is not strictly necessary if you are willing to read hundreds of pages of free online documenation. --Teratornis (talk) 22:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Stage names - which name to redirect and which to use?

    In the articles I am writing for the members of the group Perfume I am not sure whether I should use their surnames or their stage names. For example, A~chan has been redirected to Ayaka Nishiwaki, but she is very rarely referred to with her full name and in accordance to WP:Naming conventions (common names) I have referred to her as A~chan.

    Should I change the article to use "Nishiwaki", or should I change the redirect so that A~chan is the article and her full name is redirected to it? - Torika (talk) 18:44, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It sounds like A-chan should be used per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Nicknames, pen names, stage names, cognomens. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:55, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much! - Torika (talk) 19:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Image Use

    Hello,

    I would like to use a certain image for an entry. Corbis features this image on their website as "rights-managed". Do I need to purchase the rights to use a web-based image on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.246.67 (talk) 19:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you can purchase all the rights (right to duplicate, make derivatives, edit, and show, even for commercial use), then you can upload it normally. However, as I doubt you can, a much easier way would be to follow Wikipedia's WP:Non-free content policy, which instead uses a claim of fair use. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 19:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    However, Wikipedia's WP:Non-free content policy highly restricts the use of non-free content. In particular, almost all pictures of living people are excluded, because someone could replace them with free images. —teb728 t c 02:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created

    Is there a script that can give a list of articles created by a specific user? --92.0.224.34 (talk) 20:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:WPEC gives this. Algebraist 20:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Getting rid of a table of contents

    Hi, i was wondering if there is a way to get rid of a table of contents from an article? I know it is possible to hide the TOC but i want to get rid of it all together from a particular article as the article is really to short to need a toc and it gets in the way. Thanks. 79.75.136.194 (talk) 20:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Insert the magic word __NOTOC__ (two underscores, NOTOC, two more underscores) somewhere in the article. Alternatively, you may be able to remove some unnecessary section headings - if the TOC is getting in the way, then perhaps the sections are too short. Xenon54 20:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Remember that the TOC is a useful took for many users, especially those using mobile devices, or assistive technologies. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy Mabbett; Andy Mabbett's contributions 21:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Users can choose not to see tables of contents, under Special:Preferences, "Misc" tab. You should leave in the TOC for users who do want to see it. The TOC is helpful for users who want to generate links to particular sections. An article may be short now, but we expect articles on notable topics to grow. If an article can never become long enough to need a TOC, we might ask whether the subject is really notable enough for an encyclopedia article. The standard sections that WP:LAYOUT describes will by themselves almost justify a TOC, so almost every article with the preferred article layout will have some sections to navigate. See Wikipedia:Layout#Headings and paragraphs, MOS:SECTIONS, and WP:TOC#Table of contents (TOC). --Teratornis (talk) 22:08, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Teratornis, you can still link to sections without the TOC being displayed. — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 01:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure, and I can edit documents without a computer, but I like to use a computer because it's easier than using a typewriter (or a chisel and stone tablet, etc.). Linking to a section requires two parts: the page title, and the section title. When a page has a TOC, and the lead section isn't too long, both chunks are close together, making them easier to copy and paste. Another issue is consistency. The vast majority of pages on Wikipedia that have enough sections to trigger the automatic TOC do in fact display the TOC. Therefore, when I see a page that doesn't have a TOC but appears that it should, the departure from expectation distracts me from whatever I originally went to the page to find. It's like meeting someone who has one eyeball noticeably missing. Everyone else's attention will go straight to the empty eye socket. One of the things I like best about Wikipedia is its overall consistency. Almost every article on almost every subject follows a predictable layout, which means when a user looks at a new subject, he or she only has to learn about the subject, without the extra cognitive work to learn some new idiosyncratic page design. (This is one reason why Wikipedia articles are often better introductions to unfamiliar topics than one finds through general Web search. Web search results subject the user to endless design variation, which distract the user to no real purpose.) --Teratornis (talk) 06:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Check an edit, please

    I'm at work, so I can't check the web site that the anon IP claims to have the reference. So, could someone here check this edit and verify the info? Thanks, Dismas|(talk) 23:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I can't find any such claim on the linked website. There's nothing on ethnicity in the biography section, where I would expect it to be. Algebraist 23:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! Dismas|(talk) 00:03, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    September 8

    Translations

    I heard a phrase used to describe a situation. It was a French phrase...pay de ser (I believe this is the spelling). What is the translation? 00:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

    Have you tried the Language section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Algebraist 00:34, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Query on Neutrality(???) Policy

    As I can recall wikipedias policy is to refer to countries under their legal name as it is accepted by the UN. however if one looks at the todays 7/9/08 first page/on this day section on will propably see "independence day of Republic of Macedonia"... however there is no such state as this. THE OFFICIAL NAME IS: Former Yugoslavic Republic Of Macedonia F.Y.R.O.M. May I remind you also that the are currently negotiations taking place for the removal of continuation of the "Macedonia" bit in the name. Wikipedias neutrality policy dictates that the temporary official name should be used.... If so possible I propose the creation of a bot to undertake the job of fixing this isue. As unimportand as it might seam to you:

    1. it is a breach of the wikipedias neutrality policy
    2. it is malinforming and incorrect
    3. it means a great deal for the current countries in the dispute
    4. it is disrespectfull towards the citizens of those countries and the UN

    thank you very much for your attention 79.166.26.188 (talk) 03:11, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    As it happens, we have a page: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Macedonia-related articles). I haven't waded through it to see how it applies to your suggestions. However, it does appear that the issue has already attracted attention on Wikipedia. I suggest that you read that guideline, and if you don't like something on it, you could discuss it on the talk page: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Macedonia-related articles). If you agree with the existing consensus, but some articles do not comply with it, then WP:SOFIXIT applies. Wikipedia has 6,867,549 articles, and many if not most of them have problems; the only way problems get fixed is if the people who care about the problems do the work to fix them. --Teratornis (talk) 05:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I skimmed through part of Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Macedonia-related articles). It reminds me of the article: Balkanization. I'm not sure many Help desk volunteers would be sufficiently familiar with those specific disagreements to offer good advice. The folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Republic of Macedonia might have better advice, or at a minimum they should have more experience with whatever the disputes are about. --Teratornis (talk) 06:28, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Did anyone bother to check the article Republic of Macedonia?
    The Republic of Macedonia […] often referred to as Macedonia […] was admitted to the United Nations in 1993 under the provisional reference the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia […] pending resolution of a naming dispute with Greece. Many other international institutions and countries have recognised the country under the same reference, although an overall majority of countries recognise it under its constitutional name.
    Its constitutional name is "Republic of Macedonia". You can see at Macedonia naming dispute#Lists of countries what various countries officially call it. Basically, Greece is pissed that the Republic called themselves Macedonia because of the Greek region Macedonia. The full region of Macedonia, while not perfectly defined, stretches beyond the current Greek borders, and obviously the people of the Republic have a good reason to call their nation "Macedonia". — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 07:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Any PDA Version of Wikipedia

    Is there a PDA version of the Wikipedia for use on Mobile Windows 6? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.86.164.36 (talk) 06:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, http://en.mobile.wikipedia.org/ . See Wikipedia:Mobile access. You can also use Wapedia. Nanonic (talk) 06:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Uploading photos please

    Resolved

     – ukexpat (talk) 15:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    My DYK on La Princesse, the giant mechanical spider is on the front page right now. A user helped me put one photo up but I can't contact him/her again. I have found some more photos of her on Flickr that are acceptable for licensing, but can't upload them as I haven't been registered for 5 days. Could someone help me please? The images are of the spider on the move (more exciting than her crouched on the side of the building, and you can see just how massive she is) - any chance I could bother someone to upload them and add them to the page? I particularly like [3] because you get a sense of its scale and how it moves, and[4] because of the colours and you can see the puppeteers well. Any chance someone could oblige? Sorry to be a pain. Thanks again, Roisterdoister (talk) 08:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC) PS Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask! [reply]

    All done. thanks to everyone for their help. Roisterdoister (talk) 08:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    searching for information about authoritative article guidelines

    Is there any guidelines in making an authoritative wikipedia article as in making a article of academic standard? 59.154.209.47 (talk) 11:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It varies what people would call authoritative and academic standard, but see Wikipedia:Good article criteria and the harder Wikipedia:Featured article criteria for two terms used in Wikipedia with specific meanings. Far less than these is acceptable in most articles. See Wikipedia:Your first article if you consider writing a new article. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Also Wikipedia:The perfect article. — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 21:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Freedom Of Press In India

    Why India rank 120 in worldwide free prees index —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.239.200.202 (talk) 11:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you referring to a Wikipedia article that may contain wrong information? If not then: Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Upload article unsuccesfull

    Dear Helpdesk,

    I've uploaded an article with links and pictures last week but if I look for the article now I can't find it. The title of the article is La Perla International Living. I know that the text is case senstive and that it will take 30 hours. Please help me.

    Kind regards,

    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.132.249.70 (talk) 12:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email this address.Chamal Talk ± 12:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    As for the article, it doesn't seem to have been created. There is a disambiguation page called La Perla and 3 articles; La Perla District, La Perla, San Juan, Puerto Rico and La perla. Searching for 'La Perla' also doesn't show any article with that name. The article has not been deleted or it would be in the logs. I think this article has not been created at all. Maybe you didn't save properly? Chamal Talk ± 12:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I just checked for deleted articles starting with "La" with no results.[5] You can't create an article without an account, so you must have a user name that we can check contributions. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:55, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you don't have an account then you made the article in a wrong place. Do you remember where you might have placed it? If you have the same browser then the browser history may show which en.wikipedia.org pages you visited at the time. Or do you have an idea what your IP address may have been at the time? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Images not displaying

    It seems that png and svg images on WP aren't being displayed (I'm not sure if this problem is on my side) but jpgs are working correctly. -- 212.219.0.20 (talk) 12:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you give an example as to an image you can see and can not see? It might be your broswer or just your computer. Might be a technical problem then it would be best to ask your question at the reference desk Monster Under Your Bed (talk) 12:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I was having similar issues yesterday, but it is working now. Probably server issues. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    asking for peer review

    What are the steps involved in asking a person to peer review my article? I am seeking a law minded person to review "Maguire v SOCOG 1999" article. thanks 59.154.209.47 (talk) 12:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I think the page Wikipedia:Peer review is what you are after. Good luck Monster Under Your Bed (talk) 12:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Krishna Das Swami

    (long article-like text removed) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radharamandas (talkcontribs) 13:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia. Do you have a question? You may be interested in Wikipedia:Your first article, but your text would require big changes to become a proper Wikipedia article. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I insert an image within an article?

    I am a relatively new user of Wikipedia and am trying to put an image into an article I've written. I see where/how you upload an image, but I need to know how to upload that image into an actual article.

    PAHouseGOP (talk) 14:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]

    Take a look at Wikipedia:Picture tutorial for starters and you also might be interested in Help:Images and other uploaded files. Good luck Monster Under Your Bed (talk) 14:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you tell us the name of the article, we can tell you if there are any gotchas, such as an infobox template that has its own image syntax. --Teratornis (talk) 15:43, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Tight tabs

    Does anyone know any code that could be used to lessen (or remove) the space between tabs - on some pages they overflow, even on my computer's highest resolution. Dendodge|TalkContribs 15:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Try digging through m:Gallery of user styles. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 15:19, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Scripts could also be used to alter the text of tabs or remove some tabs. --Random832 (contribs) 15:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I know there's javascript that can do it, but I can't recall where. Dendodge|TalkContribs 16:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It's easy to write such scripts anyway - I wrote one just now to change "discussion" to "talk" and "edit this page" to "edit" (and replace the unprotect tab with icons showing the protection status) - Also see the last line of my User:Random832/monobook.css for a simple line to reduce the padding on each side of each tab, this cuts down the size of the tab list significantly. --Random832 (contribs) 16:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I just started using that code to reduce tab padding. It looks quite nice; thanks! Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 19:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Black gospel redirects to Urban contemporary gospel

    I'm not sure how to handle this. If I put a link to black gospel in an article about a radio station which plays traditional black gospel music, it redirects to urban contemporary gospel. Some of the historical background material in the second article is helpful, but the name of the article, and the box, give the impression that all black gospel stations play contemporary music, which of course they do not. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You can link to a section if there is an appropriate one. Your article could for example say [[Urban contemporary gospel#Original music (1920s – 1940s)|black gospel]] which renders as black gospel. I don't know how well that fits your music but you could also consider editing Urban contemporary gospel to get a good section as target. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Actually, there's not much about contemporary music in the article. It looks more like the problem is its name. Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    "Urban contemporary gospel" is what the Grammys call Black gospel. "Traditional gospel" is what they call country and western gospel. Corvus cornixtalk 20:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Can a <div> NavFrame be put alongside another? (All I ever saw is one beneath another.) -- Mentisock 18:11, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You'd need to put them both into a table, or float one. Probably the table method's easiest; you do it the same way you'd make any other table, but put divs into the table rather than text. --ais523 21:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
    Please avoid using tables for layout, wherever possible; tables are for tabular data. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 21:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    translating into Welsh Language

    My daughter has just started at a Welsh medium secondary school. She has to to some Art homework based on the artist Claes Oldenburg she has found a very good article in your English version which gives her all the information she needs, but when searching for the same article in the Welsh medium encyclopedia it comes up with nothing to be found! Any ideas how I could find this in Welsh please 90.210.81.133 (talk) 19:35, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    The English Wikipedia is by far the largest Wikipedia, with over 2.5 million articles. The next 20 or so Wikipedias all have between a hundred thousand and a million articles. Most Wikipedias are significantly smaller than that, and the Welsh Wikipedia is not especially high on the list. It has about 18,500 articles; thus, most articles on the English Wikipedia do not exist on the Welsh Wikipedia. You could see if the Welsh Wikipedia has some information on the artist in a more general article, but otherwise you'll have to look in other sources. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 19:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Welcome to Wikipedia, the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. "Anyone" includes you and your daughter. An article comes into existence because someone decides to write it. Since you (and perhaps your daughter?) are clearly fluent in English and (I assume) in Welsh, perhaps you would consider adding an article on Claes Oldenburg to the Welsh Wikipedia. To do this, first create an account, and then read up on how to create an article. Since we use the GFDL, you are free to simply translate the article from the English Wikipedia. This would be a great way for your daughter to learn more about the artist.If you are interested and cannot figure out how to go about it, please come back here and ask for help. -Arch dude (talk) 23:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    For centuries, languages with many speakers have been eating away at languages with few speakers, for the very type of reason we can see on the list of {{Wikipedias}}: the more people who speak a language, the more information there will be in that language, and thus the more useful the language is to know. Small languages such as Welsh have a desperate need for their speakers to write more information. Otherwise the big languages will tend to eat them up. This tendency has grown with each advancement in transportation and communication throughout history. The Internet has taken the pressure to a new level. If you are interested in helping to translate articles from the English Wikipedia to the Welsh Wikipedia, and thus to help preserve the Welsh language, see WP:EIW#Translate. --Teratornis (talk) 00:45, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    cant find what im looking for Help Me

    hi my name is melissa and i am trying to do research on the association cortex part of the brain i have tried different ways to look it up and nothing is working can u please help me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.165.152 (talk) 20:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Science reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Dendodge|TalkContribs 20:09, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Please do your own homework.
    Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
    Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
    If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. Dendodge|TalkContribs 20:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    She said she tried to look it up already. We didn't have an article on association cortex but I just created a redirect to the appropriate section of cerebral cortex. — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 21:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    She isn't asking anybody to do her homework, she's asking for help with finding information on the encyclopedia. Corvus cornixtalk 20:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Facts and information on articles.

    I am compiling a website that needs certain information. Let's say for instance I am busy building a site that gives information on all the trees of the world. Their, age, length, color , etc. If I find useful information on Wikipedia, for instance "willow tree grows 10 meters tall and 5 meters wide. Am I allowed to put this statistical information on my website? If yes, can I post the exact information on my site, or do I have to change it? Do I need to put a reference as to where I obtained the used information to the party that submitted the info, or do I just credit Wikipedia. As my site will contain useful information more towards an indigenous perspective, which wikipedia has little or no information, you are welcome to use my information to fill in those gaps.

    Thank you. Mortec. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.240.163.20 (talk) 20:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia for information on ... well, I think you can figure that out yourself. It's a mix of "how to do it" and "why to be careful when doing it". You can also look at the articles you want to get the information from, and look for the sources cited there - everything in Wikipedia articles is supposed to be verifiable, and if you can go back to the original source you can use it to gain greater confidence in the data. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    no color samples when printing "color list" page

    I am trying to print your web pages resulting from the "color list" search. I can print the text but the color samples for each color listed prints BLANK (no colors) I am using Windows internet exporer. Is it possible to have these colors print with the text?? Thanks in advance Manny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.163.19.146 (talk) 20:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I think most browsers don't print coloured backgrounds of pages, which is how the colour list is made. I suggest making a screenshot of the relevant part of the page; scroll to it, then press Print Screen, then paste into a program such as Paint (given that you're using Windows), and print that instead. Hope that helps! --ais523 21:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
    In IE you need to check Tools → Internet Options → Advanced → Printing → Print background colors and images. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:10, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    a question

    Hi,I'm not sure if this would be the right place to say or ask this, but I was looking for info on things I might want to study, and I'm looking for career or job opportunities in those fields and I noticed that there is no info on that as I can see. So I was wondering if You could help with my question.What career/job opportunities are there in western or eastern civilization study? P.S. if you can't help with my question,I would appreciate it if job opportunities can be added as a new section of these things.Anyways,thank you for the time you took to read this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.16.45.173 (talk) 20:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sorry if you got confused, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. We do not offer information on careers or studies. You can read some articles on certain careers (like Historian or Curator), but we do not have lists of career opportunities, only encyclopedia articles. --Alinnisawest,Dalek Empress (extermination requests here) 20:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    help

    How can I delete an article that I created? Apaulalvarez (talk) 21:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you're the only one that has edited it, place the code {{db-user}} at the top of the article. Xenon54 21:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Political groups

    What are two political groups and how do they compete? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.37.31 (talk) 23:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Algebraist 23:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That looks like a homework question. The Reference desk will not do your homework for you. —teb728 t c 08:29, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Usurping user name failure

    I hope this is the right venue to pose this question. I recently successfully usurped the username Phrenology, and, presumably, my previous account, jacobhodgen, was deleted. However, I just noticed that even though I log in under Phrenology when I sign new posts, it still shows up as my old name. As you can see at the conclusion of this post, it is signed jacobhodgen, even though I am logged in as Phrenology. My whole purpose in changing names was to be more anonymous, and it would seem my atttempt is in vain. Perhaps I misunderstood how usurping an account works? Thank you for your help. As you can see, this is signed with the wrong name. Jacob Hodgen (talk) 23:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Check your signature at Special:Preferences. Algebraist 23:54, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. Phrenology (talk) 00:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    September 9

    Why was my page deleted?

    Why did my page that I created get deleted? WHY!!!??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1997htat (talkcontribs) 00:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Take a look at Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? Xenon54 00:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See your talk page and Wikipedia:Copyright violations. Louis Pasteur Middle School 67 was a copyright violation of [6]. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It didn't get deleted. It was turned into a redirect]. — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 01:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    But Louis Pasteur Middle School 67 did get deleted. See [7] for the editor and reason. Anything that starts with "In District 26, where high performing schools are the norm, MS 67 is a notch above most." is going to get looked at. It does not take much searching to find it was copied from http://insideschools.org/index12.php?fso=750. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:07, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    And this was explained to you on your Talk page at User talk:1997htat. Corvus cornixtalk

    How to fix AfC review that I messed up?

    Hi all, [sheepish grin]! I have screwed up an WP:AfC review I was doing (my first). I, ahh, read the instructions wrong and have moved into main space, but not the right way (I moved it). The article is here. Could anyone give a suggestion, or could a kind and forgiving admin please undo. Thanks all, in advance! :-) Fr33kmantalk APW 00:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    He seems fine for an article. As a registered user you are entitled to create it. I will put a note on the AFC page. GtstrickyTalk or C 02:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You might want to dig a little deeper into the AFC instructions, there are specific templates you can use to approve, or reject proposals, and there is no need to move pages, you can just create the page at the appropriate title. Hope that helps! ArielGold 02:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, I've printed them all out and am going to review over a cup of coffee, then write them out in my language :-) Oh well, only screw up occasionally :-) Thanks! Fr33kmantalk APW 03:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! :-) Fr33kmantalk APW 03:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Some problems with an infobox

    (moved to Village Pump (technical) by original poster)

    04:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

    PRINTING

    Is there a reason why I can only print our the first 2 pages of an article. I needed to print out the article on Panama City for my son to use for his research. AnitafLibrarian (talk) 03:20, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Try the printable version by clicking on the "Printable version" link on the left side of the article page. Gary King (talk) 04:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Autobiography

    Hello. I'm Bill Perkins. But I'm a different Bill Perkins than the one listed on your site. I'm an author of 17 published books and an international speaker. I'd like to add my bio to the site. How do I do that when another Bill Perkins has his bio listed. Thanks, Bill —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonairebill (talkcontribs) 04:51, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Your question touches on several complex topics in the stupefying world of Wikipedia's internal workings. See: Wikipedia:Autobiography, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Notability (people), Wikipedia:Your first article, and Wikipedia:Disambiguation, in that order. In the meantime, anyone can create a bio page at Wikipopuli, without Wikipedia's notability requirements or discouragements against autobiographies. --Teratornis (talk) 04:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    At Bill Perkins you will see four people, each named "Bill Perkins", but their articles are named "Bill Perkins (profession)" (for example, Bill Perkins (saxophonist) and Bill Perkins (politician)). Likewise, an article about you should probably be called Bill Perkins (author). — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 05:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, Bill Perkins (author) should probably be where your biography is created. The primary thing to worry about is whether or not you would be considered notable by Wikipedia's standards; see WP:N for more information on this. It is also a huge conflict of interest to create an article about yourself on Wikipedia for obvious reasons, so usually it is suggested to wait until someone else has created an article on you. Gary King (talk) 05:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:COI does not prohibit somebody from writing abut themself, though it does recommend declaring an interest. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 09:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Indeed so, but it is very hard for an individual to write a neutral POV article about himself, so it would be subject to more intense scrutiny by other editors. – ukexpat (talk) 16:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It would also require sourcing to reliable sources independent of the subject of the article. Corvus cornixtalk 20:11, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Marking General text-based references to validate page content

    If I understand correctly, the citation format functions like footnotes. The article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assay#Fire_assay.2Fcupellation has text (not web based) references listed, but they are general - not specific detail citations. Should these be formatted somehow to address lack of citation complaint at the top of the article page? Perhaps I misunderstood; please point to explanation location that I missed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.113.168 (talk) 05:23, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:FN should help regarding how to properly insert citations. Gary King (talk) 05:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec)Firstly, "further reading" sections are generally at the end of an article, and not within a section. Anyway, footnotes are not the only form of referencing, but they are the best practice. Instead of creating a footnote, you could instead add a the reference directly into the reference section, and if applicable, create seperate "notes" and "references" sections containing footnotes and general references, respectively. Now, I can't say anything about this specific example, as I can't personally verify that those "further reading" resources can actually reference any content in the section containing them. Someguy1221 (talk) 05:30, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Moved "further reading" to end. — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 05:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    forcythia

    I have a forcythia bush and it bloomed this spring... It is blooming again, so what does that mean?

    Thank you

    nativemisty —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nativemisty (talkcontribs) 15:34, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi! This help desk is for asking questions related to using Wikipedia. You may want to try the WP:Reference desk/Science instead, as they answer knowledge questions. Cheers! TNX-Man 15:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    not like the others?

    I work at Horace Mann Insurance. There is no Wikipedia page about the company, although there are pages about Allstate, State Farm, etc. I looked at other companies and follwed their format. I have a document about what our activities we're involved in and and the history of the company. There is no sales attached to the article. It has been reviewed by our legal department. How can I make sure it will be posted?

    Sandramccollum (talk) 16:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I guess you are also User:Sandymccollum who posted The Horace Mann Companies. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. It's possible the company satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) but the posted article has no sources to demonstrate it. If it gets deleted then you could try to make a new sourced page at User:Sandramccollum/Sandbox and ask for feedback. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The Horace Mann Companies has now been deleted. Allstate and State Farm Insurance have multiple references to verify content, and independent sources to show notability. If you could write a similar article then it would have much better chances of staying. Note that both articles also have a critiscism section. Articles can be edited by all users and an article about your company would also be likely to later include published critiscism if it exists. A good way to reduce concerns about conflict of interest would be to include critiscism yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:52, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (e/c)Also take a look at WP:NOT, WP:YFA and WP:SPAM for further guidance. Even though you may not intend to be advertising, there is a big difference between a properly sourced, encyclopedia article and a PR piece or directory entry. That's is why it is advisable not to write articles about subjects with which you have a personal or professional connection, for conflict of interest reasons. If the subject is notable, someone will write an article about it sooner or later. – ukexpat (talk) 16:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating an Article

    How do I create a new article? I looked on your FAQ and found it very confusing and while detalied, still vague on the step by step process of creating a new article. please help? martin Skibs101 (talk) 17:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See the links I've just put on your talk page. Good luck! Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 17:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikilinking from a table

    Some of us recently added a table to Original English-language manga. The question came up of wikilinking some titles from the table. I remember reading somewhere (I have no recollection where) that we should not wikilink from a table. This is a list of top 50 OEL manga, so that the blue wikilink seems to single out certain titles as special or significant (even though the blue means only that they're wikilinked) -- which is not a good idea in this table. What are the guidelines or recommendations about wikilinking from a table?

    Timothy Perper (talk) 17:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I guess no one knows. Oh well. We'll leave the table entries unlinked. Timothy Perper (talk) 13:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikilinking is encouraged, also in tables. See for example Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Internal links. I don't remember ever reading something against wikilinking from a table and would like to hear if you remember where you saw it. On the contrary, Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context#What generally should not be linked says a table may contain more (repeated) links than other text. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wiki Bullying

    A Wiki user called Deor keeps deleting all the work I do

    Who can I contact about this?

    What can I do —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coffeewhite (talkcontribs) 17:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You should respond to that editor's reasonable comments on your talk page, in a similarly calm and reasoned manner, after reading AGF; and refrain from making edits like [8] per WP:NPA. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 18:25, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with Andy. In addition, the edit summary should explain what and why you made a change; it is not used to complain about changes.[9] Please use edit summaries, and leave the side comments out. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Images not displaying in articles

    Maybe I'm just missing some notice on this, but is anyone else noticing that images are not displaying correctly in articles? Not sure if something is off with my browser, or if this is on the servers. Hiberniantears (talk) 18:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I noticed it as well. This seems to have been an intermittent problem for the past few days. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It looks like the servers at commons are acting up or something. —Travistalk 18:32, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    There have been some server issues relating to images lately. Also, about 500 images were accidentally deleted from the database recently, so those won't display at all until either a developer manages to recover them or someone reuploads them. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 21:44, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Just checked the discussion at Commons about that, and it seems they've recovered all but around 40, so it was likely the server issues rather than this. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 21:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Authoring an Article for Wikipedia

    I would like to put an article in on our new medical center in Playa Vista near Marina del Rey California. What format is accepted how many words and where do I submit it to? what is a GFDL license?

    Thanks

    Marty Karpiel, FACHE, FHFMA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marty Karpiel (talkcontribs) 21:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia does not have a formal submissions process. Anyone may contribute, though we do have policies and guidelines on who should and what sort of information we accept.
    Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article. Please read over that guideline carefully if you do decide to create the article, as you will want to pay particular attention to neutrality and impeccable sourcing.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.
    GFDL is a license by which copyrighted material is freed for modification and reuse, commercially or otherwise. Anything you put on Wikipedia may be published in any other format, and the only right you retain to it is the right to credit. Because our content is licensed under GFDL, we cannot accept text copied from other sources, even if permission is given to Wikipedia to publish it. All material that is submitted here must be freely available under those terms.
    As you are new to Wikipedia, please let me note that there are policies and guidelines tucked behind the colored text. I hope that this information will prove helpful to you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Also read WP:BFAQ and WP:COI, in case you are associated with the subject you want to write about. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine for specific guidance on writing articles in this subject area. See Category:FA-Class medicine articles for examples of the best articles about medicine on Wikipedia - that's what we're aiming for with every article. See Why was my article deleted?, so you are aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to comply with Wikipedia's minefield of policies and guidelines. Many if not most of these deleted articles were started by relatively new users who were unfamiliar with the rules. Even though they edited in good faith, their work got clobbered anyway. Writing new articles from scratch - and making them "stick" - is one of the more technically demanding jobs on Wikipedia. Your contributions show only your Help desk edit. If you have not done any more editing on Wikipedia than that, consider editing existing some articles before you attempt to start a completely new article. For example, we have a Marina Del Rey, California article. You could try making some small edits to that article, then add the article to your watchlist, and check the article's history to see if other editors edit your contributions, and what changes they make. Other articles you might edit are at: Special:WhatLinksHere/Marina del Rey, California. --Teratornis (talk) 22:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    When I mention editing existing articles, the point is to get your edits to stick. Wikipedia is like a MMORPG, where the objective is to figure out what we can write that all the other 47,812,782 users will accept. Until you can make contributions to existing articles that other editors don't quickly revert or edit beyond recognition, then it would be risky for you to start a completely new article, which might get deleted outright. It's hard to explain exactly what it takes to edit successfully on Wikipedia - we can point you to the general rules, but learning how to interpret the rules for specific situations requires experience. The least painful way to gain this experience is to start by making small edits to existing articles that are already well-established. That way you only have to learn one thing at a time. If you start by making a new article, then you have to learn dozens of concepts at once, and many of them may be completely unfamiliar (such as learning to write from the neutral point of view, an alien concept to most people who have habitually used promotional language all their lives). --Teratornis (talk) 23:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Recently, I used Twinkle to tag an article for deletion, at Unknown_Creature,_The(2005_movie). In the header, the AfD discussion page shows as a redlink, even though it exists. Why did this happen? Is it a problem with Twinkle? With the template? With me? gnfnrf (talk) 22:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Looks fine to me. Might have been a slight issue with either the Wikimedia database or cache. Either way, it's not happening anymore. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 22:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec)Twinkle does that sometimes. It's fine now (if not fine for you, try bypassing your browser cache). IIRC from last time, it fixes itself soon enough, and a purge (or possibly a null edit) fixed it immediately. Algebraist 22:33, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I've run into that same thing. Purging the page works almost every time I've found. Cheers! TNX-Man 23:05, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, a purge, cache bypass, or null edit fixes most technical problems on the wiki... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 00:22, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I see this all the time - it's just a time lag between Twinkle adding the Afd tag to the article and it creating the Afd page itself. As noted above, purging the server fixes it. For easy purging, go to the Gadgets section of your preferences and enable the toolbar clock -- once installed, clicking on the clock will do a purge. – ukexpat (talk) 14:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    For some reason the navigation links in the contents of wikipedia articles aren't working for me. I've tried altering every setting in Internet Explorer that I can find which might possibly be prohibiting this behaviour, but to no avail.

    To give an example: I'm looking at the United Nations Security Council article, and click on "2.1 Permanent Members" ["http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council#Permanent_members"] -and nothing happens. IE thinks for a moment, and then does nothing. The links to and from intext citations, and to other parts of the site work fine as far as I've seen.

    I'm using the latest release of Internet Explorer (8 Beta 8.0.6001.18241) running in Windows Vista.

    Help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toonarmycaptain (talkcontribs) 23:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It appears from a Google search [10] that Internet Explorer 8 has problems with anchors of the type Wikipedia uses in section headings. I don't know a fix. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you have an "Emulate IE7" button as described at [11]? I have read a claim that it fixes it (and probably causes other changes I don't know). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I see the problem in IE8 as well. Emulate IE7 does seem to fix it. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Report

    If I were to write a 2 and a half page report on here how would you put it.I would like to have this as soon as possible.

    Thank you, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hds96 (talkcontribs) 23:09, September 9, 2008

    See Your first article for some information on creating a good article. But please remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for encyclopedic articles on notable topics, not a place to publish your papers or works. --Alinnisawest,Dalek Empress (extermination requests here) 00:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    And see Wikipedia:No original research. On Wikipedia, you should only write about things that have appeared in reliable, published sources. Wikipedia's software (which is called MediaWiki if you are curious) lets you type anything you want, but other users watch everything you do, and if you violate the rules, they may delete your work. This makes Wikipedia very different than most other kinds of writing most people have done. Usually we think in terms of writing something, saving it, and then it stays there until we decide to change it. Not on Wikipedia! Here it's like playing the telephone game. You write something, and other people start changing it. Eventually it could become something completely different. --Teratornis (talk) 02:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    September 10

    Yes i would like some information

    I would like to inquire about the procedure that needs to be followed for removing a specific website and its associated content from wikipedia's spam list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul.Aucoin.la (talkcontribs) 09:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Spam blacklist and MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed removals. Or if it's a Mediawiki blacklisting instead of only Wikipedia, see meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#Proposed removals. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
                             -------------------
    
    But how do i know which one is it black listed on. My site appears on the page

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam/2008_Archive_Apr_1

    can i understand from this that on which page will i have to go to in order to start a discussion so that my site can be removed from the listing? I would also like advice on how to start discussions and related information like who i will be discussing it with. What should i say etc?

    All blacklisted sites are listed on the Wikipedia:Spam blacklist. What site gets bounced back as blacklisted? --Orange Mike | Talk 17:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC) (And please log on and sign your posts.)[reply]
    I cannot say where it's blacklisted just from being on that page. What is the domain? (write it without http://). Arguments would depend on why it was blacklisted and what it contains. Requests are reviewed by editors with administrator status at that site. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:24, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Why is only half this article showing? If you go to edit it, you can see that there's more stuff, but only the first three paragraphs show up in the article page. Thanks for any help, Pince Nez (talk) 11:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    A closing </ref> was missing '/'.[12] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:13, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Super! Thank you! Pince Nez (talk) 11:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Rollback

    Sometimes I see vandalism and hastily hit the undo button, and then find that the vandal had made several consecutive edits and I've missed the earlier ones. See [13]. I know that non-admins can be given rollback, and I'm sure I've seen a special page where they ask for it, but I can't find the page right now and can't remember what it was called. Help would be appreciated. Thank you. Stratford490 (talk) 11:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Requests for permissions.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your quick response. I'll make the request once I've read the relevant pages. Stratford490 (talk) 11:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You're welcome--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, you can use "undo" on several consecutive edits. Go to history page and click on "cur" next to latest version before possible vandalism edits. This gives you a comparison of that version against current version. To undo differences click on "undo" next to current version header. Gandalf61 (talk) 14:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    This IP address 203.26.113.165 needs to be blocked, again. DOR (HK) (talk) 01:24, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Changing the name of a page

    Could somebody please tell me how the change the name of a page?

    I have recently discovered in Wikipedia under the category "List of companies of Romania" a page of the company I work for: Novensys Corporation. The information listed there was old, so I made an update of the information. The problem is that the name of the company in the page title is spelt wrong "Novesys" instead of "Novensys".

    How can I modify this name?

    Thank you.

    Nemona (talk) 12:20, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Actually, it appears you created the article, but the link you got there from was pointing to the wrong place. What I would have done was to fix the link in the list, then follow it and create the article in the correct place. I'll move the article for you (the site doesn't allow you to move articles until you've been around a few days), but you may wish to read our notability guidelines for companies, as I fear your article does not meet them and is likely to be deleted. --Clubjuggle T/C 12:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia:FAQ/Business has a good overview that you need to read. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Novensys Corporation has been speedily deleted as advertising and so I have just tagged the page move redirect for deletion too. – ukexpat (talk) 14:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    How to make something searchable as an article

    This is my first attempt at publishing something on Wikipedia so forgive me if this is a simple issue. I've searched the help areas and faq's but can't seem to find the answer. I created the wiki entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TrilientPartners but it doesn't appear when searching for the word "Trilient" unless you use the advanced seach options and click the "User" checkbox. How can I convert this to an article so that it's easily searchable without having to use the advanced search feature. Thanks in advance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.147.57.6 (talk) 12:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    That is because you created it as a Wikipedia:User page, not as an article. I see it is now up for deletion. Before you recreate it, please read Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 13:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Image Size

    The portrait starting this article seems to me oversize. Is there a policy about the size of images in infoboxes, and does this image conform? Perhaps it is just that the portrait is so closeup.

    Wanderer57 (talk) 14:08, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It is a largish image and the way it has been cropped doesn't help. I have added an image size parameter to the ibox and reduced the image size. – ukexpat (talk) 14:37, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. That is an improvement. Wanderer57 (talk) 14:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Repeated inline references to the same source

    Hi..

    I want to make two inline citations to the same source at two different places in an article.

    How can I do this without having to repeat the cite template for that source? Can I just have the ref+cite tag at the first citation and then at the repeat, just the ref tag with the same name.. I tried doing this in the naive way but it said something like "cant have ref with no name" even though they both had (the same) name, just the second one didn't have a cite. Zargulon (talk) 15:28, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Use <ref name="NAME OF REF"></ref> and later just put <ref name="NAME OF REF" />. Notice that the second use doesn't have a </ref> tag. — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 15:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The method is described at Wikipedia:Footnotes#Naming a ref tag so it can be used more than once. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    And you don't need to enclose the name in quotes. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If the name contains a space or non-ASCII quotes, you need to use quotation marks. Aside from that, it is always recommended that quotation marks are used. — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 18:21, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    ASKING A QUESTION

    HOW CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT A SONG TITLE LISTED IN WIKOPEDIA? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.170.142.167 (talk) 19:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Well, this is the right place to ask. Just click on "edit" at the upper right of this section and ask away. Be sure to take off the caps lock too. Cheers! TNX-Man 19:22, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If it's a question about the song itself, and not about the Wikipedia article about the song, then your best place would be The Entertainment Reference Desk. Corvus cornixtalk 19:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Petronas infobox

    Hi. The picture caption on the infobox of the Petronas Twin Towers article says "Petronas Twin Towers was the world's tallest building from 1998 to 2004". I wanted to change that to "Petronas Twin Towers were the world's tallest buildings from 1998 to 2004" (as they consist of two buildings, not just one), but I am surprised that I can't seem to find that caption anywhere when editing the article. Could someone please help me find out where's the sneaky caption hiding? Thanks. Húsönd 19:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    That's really odd. I'm still looking around though. TNX-Man 19:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It's in Template:Infobox Skyscraper, but it's hard-coded in, so it's going to be trickier than you might have first thought to change it. --barneca (talk) 19:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflicts) It's coded directly into the template. The problem here is that the template is used by multiple towers/skyscrapers, and usually applies to a single tower - even though in this case it refers to multiple. The coding of {{Infobox Skyscraper}} is phrased to populate the text this way: {{{building_name}}} was the world's tallest building from {{{year_highest}}} to {{{year_end}}}. -- Barek (talkcontribs) - 19:51, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It looks like someone has coded in a way to have a plural name as an option, but I don't understand the coding well enough to know how to use the option. --barneca (talk) 19:53, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Good catch. I set "Plural = true" in the article, and that seems to have worked. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 19:57, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Heh. I tried to use the {{plural}} magic word, and thought I'd fixed it myself (not realizing you'd already fixed it 2 minutes earlier). Now I have to delete the article and selectively restore it to remove evidence of my arrogance/stupidity (a lethal combination). --barneca (talk) 20:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you guys. :-) Húsönd 20:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Polly Young-Eisendrath correction and update

    Polly Young-Eisendrath lives and practices near Montpelier, Vermont. SHsyockey (talk) 20:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)he is the author of thirteen books (translated into twenty languages), including The Resilient Spirit and Women and Desire. Her most recent book is The Self-Esteem Trap: Raising Confident and Compassionate Kids in an Age of Self-Importance, published by Little, Brown and Company, 2008. She has been a practicing Buddhist since 1971. [1][reply]

    She is also Consultant for Leadership Development at Norwich University. A new and revised edition of The Cambridge Companion to Jung, of which she is the first editor was also published in 2008. [[2]


    Her recent speaking engagements include: Shambhala Sun Institute: Love and Relationships, at Omega Institute, July 2008. [3]

    Is there a question here? Corvus cornixtalk 01:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Page Deletion question

    Wikipedia makes things a bit too complicated. All I want to know is why my page was deleted fro my friend LD Sargent (page title). We also sent in a photo. When we checked for the deleted page and its administrator there was nothing. What happened? 21:37, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Mo

    The article L. D. Sargent still exists. It has tags indicating that Ms. Sargent's notability is in doubt and that the article needs to be cleaned up, but it hasn't been deleted yet. Xenon54 21:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The article was originally created at User:Mochalit, and on 20 August it was moved to L. D. Sargent. That may be why you couldn't find it. —teb728 t c 22:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hellas S.C.

    The Wikipedia entry for Hellas S.C. was not created or authorized by anyone representing our organization. It is completely full of innacuracies. Hellas is completely misrepsrented by an unauthorized person. As the vice president of Hellas S.C. I kindly request that the site be taken down.

    Sincerely, Tom Papagiannopoulos <email address removed by NW> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.79.159.243 (talk) 23:14, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, sir. Do you think you point us to the link of the article? In addition, you may want to check out Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (linked in blue). If you still feel we have misrepresented your company, you may contact the Wikimedia Foundation for more information. NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 23:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The article is clearly Hellas S.C. which has been edited by 24.79.159.243, but only with unexplained removal of content. I don't see any point of view so I guess the problem is factual accuracy. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I've posted a question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Hellas S.C.. Hopefully someone there will be able to resolve this issue. The answer to Tom, though, is that if we consider the club notable then we will not remove its page just because the club asks us to. However if it isn't notable then it can be A7'd, which is a shorthand we use here for "speedy deleting" an article on a non-notable subject. Members of our football project are the best people to make this decision. AndyJones (talk) 08:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Username

    How can I make my username look different? Schuym1 (talk) 23:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signatureTwas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 23:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't understand it. I tried adding html tags and it said that I did something wrong. Schuym1 (talk) 00:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you check the box "Raw signature"? — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 00:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes. All I want to do is change it to two or three colors. Schuym1 (talk) 00:20, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    What, precisely, did you do, and what, precisely, happened? Algebraist 00:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe you can post your code for us to look at? For example:
    '''[[User:Schuym1|<font style="color:red">Sch</font><font style="color:green">uym</font><font style="color:red">1</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Schuym1|<font style="color:green">talk</font>]])</small>'''
    (Which should show up as Schuym1 (talk)) — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 00:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I did it! Schuym1 00:32, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
    Looks good. But you should add a link to allow others to contact you. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 00:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, without a link to either your user page or user talk page in the signature, the bots may think you failed to sign and add "(Previous unsigned comment left by …" — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 00:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. Schuym1 (talk) 00:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I forgot to do user page. Schuym1 (talk) 00:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I can't get it to work.[[User:Schuym1|Schuym1 (talk) 00:49, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. Schuym1 (talk) 00:50, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. Only one of them is required at Wikipedia:Signatures#Internal links, but having both is convenient. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Awards and Achievements Box

    Look below this entry:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Altman

    There's a box called "Awards and Achievements." I want to make something similar for another filmmaker but I don't know how. How do I go about doing this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.103.169 (talk) 23:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Here is an example of such a table. Just click the edit tab and edit out the information you want.

    Awards and achievements
    Preceded by INSERT AWARD HERE - INSERT FILM FESTIVAL HERE
    for INSERT MOVIE TITLE HERE

    INSERT YEARS HERE
    Succeeded by
    Preceded by INSERT AWARD HERE - INSERT FILM FESTIVAL HERE
    for The Player

    INSERT YEARS HERE
    Succeeded by
    Preceded by INSERT AWARD HERE - INSERT FILM FESTIVAL HERE
    for INSERT MOVIE TITLE HEREs (tied with Person F
    for INSERT MOVIE TITLE HERE)

    INSERT YEARS HERE
    Succeeded by
    Preceded by INSERT AWARD HERE
    for INSERT MOVIE TITLE HERE

    INSERT YEARS HERE
    Succeeded by

    NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 23:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Image captions

    An image was recently added to the Priscilla Taylor article. The caption of the image seems to advert-y to me. Is the advertising on the image page good enough? Am I justified in taking the advertising off the caption since it's already on the image page? I suck at all the copyright red tape that goes with images... Dismas|(talk) 23:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I took out the promo. — Twas Now ( talkcontribse-mail ) 23:53, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    September 11

    Defining "massacre"

    I created w:Category:Massacres in Canada. I have not seen a clear definition to separates a massacre from a mass murder. They appear to amount to the same thing: Wiktionary defines massacre as: "The intentional killing of a considerable number of human beings, under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty, or contrary to the usages of civilized people.". Mass murder, it says, is: "The killing of a large number of people over a short period of time." The problem then for categorization purposes is what is a "considerable number" and what is a "large number" in the present context? In adding articles to the list for Canada, I have used as my criterion a minimum of 4 or more persons killed. This tends to reflect the discussion of the event as presented in the articles; for example, the article Mayerthorpe Incident, about the murder of 4 police officers, includes the quote: ""A by-product of the massacre was the halt to marijuana decriminalization legislation ...". Do others have any further insight, opinion or advice? Verne Equinox (talk) 00:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    There may be something useful at Category:Massacres and Talk:List of events named massacres. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:26, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    Notability criteria for journalists

    Could you please show me where I can find them? Thanks so much. --151.56.90.85 (talk) 04:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See the general criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (people). There is a page called Wikipedia:Notability (journalists), but it is not policy (it failed to gain consensus, so you have to use the more general Wikipedia:Notability (people). Calvin 1998 (t·c) 04:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks so much! --151.56.90.85 (talk) 04:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    NGO DONATION

    we are an voluntary organization working for women and children since 1997 in RANGAREDDY DISTRICT, ANDHRA PRADESH, INDIA. OUR WEBSITE www.sperds.org. we have registered in foreign contribution regulation act(FCRA) & income tax also. IN our board all are women. please help in this matter. SUJATHA MAJETY mail me <contact information removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.246.235.171 (talk) 04:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 10:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    "08:55, 11 September 2008 Mikakon (Talk | contribs) Account created automatically" - how can an account be created automatically? -- 194.75.236.69 (talk) 09:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    With Help:Unified login enabled, a new account is created whenever you visit a Wikimedia wiki for the first time. Algebraist 09:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]



    how do I get my article on Jumeau Dolls restored???

    Not certain quite of how to get this done - so appologies for turning up in the wrong places

    I only noticed yesterday that my page had been pulled for what appear to me to be flimsy reasons

    can any one help me with why my article on Jumeau Dolls was deleted back in 25 July 2008

    This was about one of the most significant global toy companies prior to the modern era

    I am widely published in heritage and museum contexts and have a PhD in art history and work at a senior academic level

    but my article was deleted because someone unnamed decided that it "does not show much significance"

    since then a slightly related article seems to use some of my material

    I only do some editing and creation of wikipedia pages - but this was a totally legitimate page with interest to an international audience from a cultural and design history perpective and wonder what were the qualifications to assess the article of those who thought to delete it - it seems an act of cowboys, nerds and jocks - how can a wide variety of readers use wikipedia if articles are deleted by people beyond the subject area

    I would appreciate some genuine help from the community in restoring a page that had valid factual content and would be useful to anyone researching toys, dolls and childhood

    Bebe Jumeau (talk) 09:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    • Articles tend to get deleted if they don't show sufficient evidence that they meet the notability requirements. However, from what I can tell there's enough on Jumeau Dolls that notability shouldn't be difficult to establish - and I imagine you have even better references than mine. :) You could try taking it to deletion review, but the best bet is probably to ask if an administrator can userfy the page, which involves making a copy of the deleted version that will exist in your userspace. Then it can be easily edited to meet the requirements and moved into Wikipedia proper once it is ready - I should be able to help a bit once it is available, all going well. - Bilby (talk) 09:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Waboba exploiting an old invention

    Hi, I read the article on the subject of Willis Barnes Bouncing Bomb.

    A nice article all in all, but with a kind of peculiar reference made (below). It is incorrect in implying that the Waboba Ball is not original. The waboba ball has a international patent application that has been deemed patentable by the swedish patent authority and thus made public by the international patent cooperation. What the published patent application is about is a solution to maximize bouncing capacity on a gel ball.

    There is no reference whatsoever made by Waboba to be the only ball or object that bounces or skips on water. That would obviously not be true. The references cited are made by an australian web magazine. That article says a lot more, and more interesting, about the waboba ball and has therefore been linked to wabobas site www.waboba.com. There are also other newspapers (like the Guardian) that sites the ball as "the ball that can bounce on water". But this seems to be more of a way to express the novelty of a ball that bounces a lot better than other balls and objects, than an attempt by Waboba to exploit the idea of bouncing bombs. I guess the idea of throwing or shooting objects in an attempt to make them bounce on water for some reason is even a lot older than the idea to make bombs skip on water.

    There is also, for those who really wants to penetrate this sunbject in depht. a slight difference in meaning between "skipping" and "bouncing" which is quite obvious for viewers of the film clips on the waboba site. And for people who has compared bouncing basket balls etc and bouncing a waboba ball. :-)

    So all in all the article below is just incorrect. The problem for wikipedia is perhaps that it is a bit ridiculous too.

    But I dont really mind if it stays on, I just want the wikipedia community to take some notice of it, and judge themselves.

    Kind regards Jan von heland Managing Director waboba


    Cultural adaptions The idea of spherical balls which can bounce on water has been commercialised by a sports company with a product known as the Waboba ball. It is a lycra covered product thrown by hand. Advertising and Magazine promotion claims the ball unique in the ability to bounce on water. A patent is referred to. In reality all spherical balls will skip on water when thrown with appropriate speed at a low angle and Stress balls, Tennis balls, Water Polo balls, Basket balls, soccer balls etc all will skip on water effectively. Barnes Wallis originally used small glass marbles to skip across a tub of water and was able to bounce balls of a variety of materials from balsa wood to lead. A golfball like dimpled surface was effective in increasing skipping ability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.233.9.23 (talk) 09:50, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Edit Facts and Statistics

    Hi,

    How can i edit the facts and statistic of which currently is wrongly stated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hcliang (talkcontribs) 10:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    HOW TO CREATE AN ARTICLE

    Rjbrevilla (talk) 11:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)How to create an Article?[reply]

    I tried to create an article however it was deleted. I'm not sure why, but it said that A7. A7 Means the article is not valid. however i have proof, and reference to prove it. THE ARTICLE NAME IS RJ REVILLA

    1. ^ Little, Brown and Company press release, September 2, 2008
    2. ^ www.young-eisendrath.com
    3. ^ www.young-eisendrath.com