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    October 8

    music &etc

    How to find song lyric? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.26.233 (talk) 04:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Google or your favorite search engine. Or the Reference Desk. RudolfRed (talk) 04:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Use a search engine such as Google. When I look for lyrics, I normally start my search with the word "lyrics" followed by whatever I know which might be just a few words of the lyrics or possibly the artist name and song title. But you won't find too many lyrics on Wikipedia since they're almost always copyrighted. Dismas|(talk) 06:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    And not all of the sites you will find actually have permission to put the song lyrics online. As Wikipedia editors, we take pride in the fact that our encyclopedia is free content that anyone can copy and improve. If we discover someone has added copyrighted material (including copyrighted song lyrics) to our site without permission, we quickly remove it unless we are sure our use is legal. We don't even allow linking to the infringing sites. PleaseStand (talk) 06:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:44, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    CSD log going awol

    User:Valenciano/CSD log the last auto addition caused a load of entries to disappear. How to fix? Valenciano (talk) 07:28, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I've restored most of the missing content by undoing the bad edit and re-adding the newest entry. The line describing Visa iskcon didn't get saved, so if you want to remember that you will have to edit it in manually. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Looking for talk page template when F5ing non-free image

    Resolved

    Is there a specific talk page template to notify the uploader when F5ing an image? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Template:Orphaned seems fit for this purpose. Klilidiplomus+Talk 08:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 08:41, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Morgan horse: rendering error

    I don't know the right place to report this.

    In the article Morgan horse, everything from the last sentence of the third paragraph onwards is rendered in boldface. The tabs at the top ("Edit", "View History", etc.) are also affected. I have checked this in three different browsers. The misrendering starts within the template "14.1 to 15.2 hands (57 to 62 inches, 145 to 157 cm)". There was no problem before the most recent edit, made by ZéroBot. Its edit did not affect that template, or the paragraph containing it; it merely added a category.

    I had hoped to fix the problem myself, but I am mystified. Maproom (talk) 08:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I made a null edit to the page and that seems to have fixed it. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 09:15, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Such a simple tool, such a powerful result. I look forward to finding another opportunity to use it. :-) Maproom (talk) 11:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Edit an article heading

    I have recently created a new article, how do I edit the article heading? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dward348 (talk • contribs) 09:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The page is called "Jcb insurance services", I would like to change it to "JCB Insurance Services Ltd". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dward348 (talk • contribs) 09:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I have moved it for you. I would point out that as it stands, the article is likely to be deleted, as (among other things) it does not give evidence of the company's notability. Maproom (talk) 09:12, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    ... and the previous version of the article had been deleted in August for the same reason, as you were notified on your talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:26, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Proceudre for opening a new wiki page for my company.

    I want to open a new wiki page for my company. What is the procedure for the same? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.181.149.113 (talk) 10:19, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You can do that through Wikipedia:Articles for creation, but please read this document completely before proceeding. --Anbu121 (talk me) 10:33, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:37, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    una america

    We are just una america lies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.164.69.81 (talk) 11:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, just una america lies, and welcome to Wikipedia. Do you have a question for us about how to use the site or find your way around? - Karenjc

    I have other pictures

    I have other pictures of Registerd Historic Sites that I would like to upload, however, the upload link to the site(s) is no longer available. How can I upload these figures to the proper historic site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blastoids (talk • contribs) 14:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for your uploads seen at commons:Special:Contributions/Blastoids. Submissions for the Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 competition ended September 30 but you are more than welcome to upload additional images outside the competition. Pages at http://commons.wikimedia.org always have an "Upload file" link under "Participate" in the left pane. I didn't participate in the competition but I think you get an upload interface more resembling the competition by instead selecting your country at commons:Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments upload. You can find general information about Commons at commons:Help:Contents, and ask questions at commons:Commons:Help desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I completly agree with this issue. editors have begun to trying to impress each other. Look at some of their take pages. "oh, xxxxx, I can't believe your writing me. You have been an editor for so long and I for such a short time".... It's become silly. Yet the "founder" plays a hands off rule (enron) until he needs our money. I'm about to think i've been a vic to a giant fraud. Casperjo22 (talk) 07:03, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Deletions by the Uniformed

    After being a part of the Wiki community for many years I am finding it more difficult to understand how "Administrators" can use absolute power to delete pages they "feel" are not worthy of Wiki presence. I have been the author of a Wiki presence for a small technically forward software company. I have found that those that deleted the presence have no technical background to make a determination of relevance. The company listing - Stone Bond Technologies - had also gone through editorial review, which I find n=more disturbing in that after the review it was again deleted by people not even associated with the review. This has got to stop as there seem to be a few very power hungry people without perspective and knowledge determining the speech rights of the masses or contributors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.104.60.30 (talk) 14:19, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stone Bond Technologies where the correct procedure was followed and the consensus reached determined that the article failed to show that the subject met the notability standards for companies. Process on Wikipedia is impersonal, your remarks about individual participants in the process are unacceptable. As far as I can see they followed the correct procedure and applied the policies correctly. Roger (talk) 14:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    ... also see the declined AFC at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Stone Bond Technologies. It won't have helped that the article was being written by someone with a conflict of intersst, so was written in a promotional manner. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) There is no "speech right" on Wikipedia, and Wikipedia doesn't host "presences" or publish "listings". It's an encyclopaedia, and it contains articles about subjects that are notable. Expert knowledge is not a requirement for editing, because Wikipedia is a tertiary source that uses only material that has been previously published in a reliable source. Stone Bond Technologies was first deleted on 25 August, having been proposed for deletion because of its promotional tone and failure to assert notability. It was restored on 13 September when the proposal was contested, and it was then discussed at WP:Articles for deletion. Here is the deletion discussion, which was closed as delete and salt. Any administrator could then delete it as part of their housekeeping duties, and one duly did. Other articles under the title Stone bond technologies have also been deleted as promotional and failing to demonstrate notability in 2007 and 2009. Someone clearly wants there to be a Wikipedia article about this company, but appears incapable of producing any sourced evidence that the company satisfies the general notability guideline or the notability criteria for companies. If such evidence is produced, then there can be an article about this company on Wikipedia, although it cannot now be recreated without going through the review process. Without it, the article just does not belong on Wikipedia. - Karenjc 14:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Unknown account

    So, I decided to come back to Wikipedia. I had left due to an extremely negative experience with a moderator. When I requested my login details, I was given not one, but two account names! This account, and one named Speedhash1780. Considering that it's against the rules to have more than one account(sockpuppetry), how do I deactivate/delete/remove the other account? NealCruco (talk) 14:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Accounts can be blocked from editing, and be renamed, but not deleted. Special:Contributions/Speedhash1780 shows no edits and Special:Contributions/NealCruco only shows your post here. Wikipedia:Sock puppetry doesn't disallow having multiple accounts if they are unused for editing (there are other circumstances where it's also permitted). Which account had the negative experience? And does "Unknown account" mean you didn't create one of the linked accounts? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't remember creating Speedhash1780. And I may have had it when I was unregistered, but I was sure it was on this account. NealCruco (talk) 16:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Speedhash1780 was created 14 months ago, see Special:CentralAuth/Speedhash1780. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:20, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    creating columns

    i am sorry for the silly question, but i am trying to create columns on my talk page, and they work ok, it's just that i get the following "| align="left" valign="top" |" after each one. how can i fix this? thank you! oh, i'm using the col-begin, col-break, and col-end. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Simply a missing hyphen. {{colbegin}} is not the same as {{col-begin}}. I've corrected it for you. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    ... and it wasn't on your talk page, but on your user page. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't be sorry for asking the question - that is the purpose of this page. Roger (talk) 16:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    seeking information/data on early history of page protection

    Hello -- as part of a large-scale study of emergent phenomena in human social systems, I am trying to determine the role of protection/semi-protection in the creation of consensus and the resolution of disputes. I posted this question at the talk page for "Protection Policy" last week, but thought to ask here in case someone might be able to point me to a good resource or contact.

    I have been trying to determine the protection status of pages before around 12/2005, when the Protection Logs start providing edit=autoconfirmed/edit=sysop information in the edit summary. Prior to 12/2005 it is hard to determine when a page is edit or move protected, and it is also hard to determine, if it is edit protected, what the level of that protection amounts to (e.g., sysop only, autoconfirmed, etc.) For example, the GWB log shows a number of cases where an editor is listed protecting a page, but examination of the edit history around that time shows that anonymous IPs still are able to edit.

    Is there any reliable source of information on what the exact status of a particular page was before 12/2005? Perhaps (e.g.) records might have been kept on a separate server, or may be accessible in ugly but machine-readable form?

    Also, is there any reliable source of information as to what a protection meant for users in this period?

    Finally, can anyone point me to a good contact for questions of this sort? (Largely technical questions about details of Wikipedia policies, and requests for access to archival data on site functioning.)

    Many thanks for any help; you may contact me on my talk page, or here, as you please! Dedeo sfi (talk) 15:14, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    MediaWiki did not have a "semi-protection" feature (which was added in version 1.6) before December 22, 2005. Move protection did exist in MediaWiki 1.4, but that version of the software did not add distinguishing information to the log. Also, pre-1.6 move protection worked differently, applying to the newest 1% of accounts instead of just those created within the last four days. I think the additional ten-edit threshold was added even later. See bugzilla:675, bugzilla:1735, and mw:Special:Code/MediaWiki/12207.
    However, I'm not in a position to explain any discrepancy between the protection log (which in fact was originally maintained manually) and the actual article status; you may want to ask further questions at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), and for open access research, you may request technical support from the Wikimedia Foundation; see m:Research:Committee and m:Research:FAQ. PleaseStand (talk) 20:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for this detailed response, PleaseStand; this is very helpful, both directly for the work I'm doing, and as a pointer to additional sources of information. Cheers! Dedeo sfi (talk) 20:32, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with colour tables, with headings

    Hi team,

    Im trying to create four boxes that are in a block formation. I have tried two and get them fairly even but when i duplicate the code it put them in column order.

    they need to be even, top lef, top right, bottom left and bottom right. I am trying to put colour in and its proving difficult.

    the blue one on the right looks good, nice and clear, formatted etc, but i cant get the rest

    ive looked on the FAQ's but i cant find anything like this. Help!

    box one

    -

    box two

    -- unsigned entry by 80.79.208.19 (talk) 8 October 2012‎

    I'm afraid interleaving wiki code for tables with HTML <div>—</div> tags is not a good idea. Not sure if that is a source of your problems, anyway would suggest to try enclosing every <div> entirely in its own table's cell...
    Here's my approach:

    H2. upper-left

    H4. upper-rigth

    H3. lower-left
    H5. lower-right
    Hope that would be helpful somehow... --CiaPan (talk) 19:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Covers/Images on Music Pages

    When editing music pages there is a box that is on the left with artist information. I am creating an album page for an artist and I cannot figure out how to put the cover/image in it. It always shows up as a website. Is there any directions or tutorials on it because I can't find anything. Thank you, ukiss2ne14lyfe

    Images cannot be displayed directly from a url. The image needs to be uploaded to Wikipedia. You can use the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. But please read Wikipedia:Image use policy before proceeding. --Anbu121 (talk me) 18:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Inclusion Standards / Reliable Sources

    My article was declined by editor Spartaz who is no longer an admin and is therefore unable to help me with my article.

    It was declined because I needed to provide two detailed independent reliable sources that discuss the subject in detail.

    I included six Wikipedia references where my content is quoted and eight Religious Tolerance references where my content is quoted, which I believe fulfills the requirements as per your link to "inclusion standards" and "reliable sources".

    Obviously I am missing something. I would appreciate any help in getting this article "Christian Gays" accepted. Thank you.

    http://ChristianGays.com (talk) 17:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)ma3ry[reply]

    Ask Spartaz directly. He can help you with this, because it isn't an administrator action. --Jayron32 18:01, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    One doesn't have to be a Wikipedia administrator to review article submissions. By "admin actions", Spartaz is referring to blocking users, deleting or protecting articles, etc., none of which apply in your case. PleaseStand (talk) 18:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    At present the article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Christian Gays does not contain one single inline reference, and in particular does not reference the multiple independent reliable sources which need to have covered it in depth in order for it to pass the criterion of notability. Without this, the article is not acceptable. --ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    changes

    I added some material to the Long John Nebel bio, but I can't find out how to "summarize" it... Where and how do I do this? And how do I send this present text? By clicking on "Save Page"? That doesn't make any sense...

    I regularly edit my own Wikipedia data, with no such problems!

    (Just after sending this, I received a note telling me NOT to give my email address...!)

    James Randi <e-mail address (Redacted)> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.228.118 (talk) 18:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you mean an "edit summary"? It gets written in a box that appears below the edit window. You just write a description of what your edit changes. (It appears in the history to help people determine which edit did what without looking at each diff.) The is an option that lets you request to be notified if you forget to enter an edit summary (if you get the warning I believe you can just click save again and it won't warn you a second time.) RJFJR (talk) 18:21, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    See more at Help:Edit summary. The option RJFJR refers to is only for logged in users. Wikipedia uses the same software for articles and discussions so yes, you press "Save page". We give help for most matters in public so others can see the discussion and contribute to it. I think we give ample warning about the email issue. The top of this help desk says: "Do not provide your email address or any other contact information. Answers will be provided on this page only." The top of the edit window also says in red: "do not provide your email address or any other contact details". The first time you press "Save page" with an email address you see this message which includes: "If you still wish to continue with your edit, you may hit "Save page" again below, and it will be submitted as is." Your email address was saved so you must have hit Save page again without removing the address. Another editor removed it. This is a very public page and an email address here can cause problems such as spammers sending you junk mail. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Deleting Empty Pages

    Hello Wikipedian,

    I would like to know why the charts in the NATO phonetic alphabet article Nato phonetic alphabet have so many empty pages print in the printed version. Is there any way you or the user can delete them and still have the pages numbered correctly?

    GT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtingreenbelt (talk • contribs) 19:16, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If you have Internet Explorer then see Help:Printable#Blank pages in Internet Explorer. There may still be issues with some pages. Can you try another browser? The print preview may reveal in advance whether you will get blank pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Are Op-Eds OR?

    I'm having a discussion with two more experienced editors in which I'm told that an Op-Ed piece, labeled by the newspaper as "opinion," written by a founder of the group being written about and an advisory board member of the same group, is not OR. If I'm correct in believing that primary sources, as authors, constitute incorporation of OR, how does one go about getting the matter settled properly? The discussion is at the NORNB under Second Vermont Republic. Thanks. Vttor (talk) 19:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Facts, opinions, and ideas that have previously been published in reliable sources (including primary sources) are not original research in themselves. Original research arises when Wikipedia editors combine or synthesize the information to form new facts, opinions, or ideas, which Wikipedia policy forbids. In the case you mentioned, a Wikipedia editor had observed that another source quoted the op-ed yet did not specifically cite it. The editor did not cite a published source to back up his observation, which is original research. You should find (and cite) a reliable source that actually makes the comparison or help build a consensus for separately mentioning (or even not mentioning) Sanford's arguments, which is what Carolmooredc proposed. You may wish to refer to WP:PRIMARY. PleaseStand (talk) 21:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    My book seems to be frozen

    My Book The Sacredness of Being seems to be frozen. Please advise Fred wage--Fredwage (talk) 20:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I see you are editing both User:Fredwage/Books/The Sacredness of Being and Book:The Sacredness of Being. What do you mean by "frozen"? Does it stop at some point when you click one of the download links? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    About the donation I made.

    Hi. I recently tried to donate 5 dollar to wikipedia. During the process, it said that wikipedia cannot accept my credit card as donation. So I was like 'maybe next time'. But when I checked my transaction record, it said that I donated to Wikipedia when 5 dollar was deducted. I was wondering if you guys got the donation. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.202.203 (talk) 22:02, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    This Help Desk is monitored by editors who are volunteers. You need to contact the Wikimedia Foundation to check whether the donation was received. Thank you for your donations. --Anbu121 (talk me) 22:23, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Talk:Winster.com

    The deletion log for Talk:Winster.com says it is for regrettably inappropriate use of the talk page. How can I retrieve the deleted page, and how can I find out what was inappropriate about it? Ddrhl (talk) 22:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You need to contact the administrator who deleted it, DragonflySixtyseven in this case. --Anbu121 (talk me) 22:14, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Annotated picture

    Hi, what is the technique used to create the annotations at

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Volcanoes_Panorama_at_Lanzarote.jpg

    ?

    86.160.83.247 (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator. --Anbu121 (talk me) 23:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Check this page out. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Cool, thanks. 86.160.83.247 (talk) 00:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    October 9

    Correcting an error on the "Portal:Australian cars" page

    The above page includes an image of a Holden LJ Torana incorrectly captioned as a Holden LC Torana. I have tried to correct this without success. What's the secret please? GTHO (talk) 02:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Many portal pages have randomly changing elements. When you saw it at Portal:Australian cars you could probably have clicked a small "edit" link in the corner of the box where it was displayed. Are you referring to Portal:Australian cars/Selected picture/31? PrimeHunter (talk) 03:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    That's the one! Now fixed. Thanks. GTHO (talk) 02:17, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Image and Unblocking

    How to unblock a blocked account? Can I use image from another website by getting permission from that site?--pratyya (talk) 03:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    How to unblock a blocked account depends on why the account got blocked. If the account was blocked for disruptive editing, the owner would have to convince admins that if the block was lifted, the disruptive editing would end. We might be able to reply more specifically if you said what the block was about.
    Since Wikipedia has a goal of producing reusable content, we don’t accept permission for use only on Wikipedia. But if the copyright owner is willing to permission for reuse by anyone for anything, see WP:COPYREQ for how to handle that permission. —teb728 t c 04:42, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It's worth noting that the "other website" often does not, in fact, hold the copyright to the image and may itself be using the image in violation of copyright. In such a case, any "permission" from the people behind the site is useless. Deor (talk) 14:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The block is about uploading non-free file --pratyya (talk) 08:19, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    When an account is blocked, the templates used by the blocking admin normally contain instructions to the user on how to request an unblock. See Wikipedia:APPEAL, which explains the process in detail. - Karenjc 10:03, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Need help with article List of states in the Holy Roman Empire

    Hi all, I have added a comment in the talk page of this article but a lot of similar comments have gone unsanswered. Basically I don't understand what the article is about. It begins with a general understanding of History and states but then moves to topics related to nazism etc. Can someone read this article and explain to me more about the topiv, please? -Wikishagnik (talk) 04:34, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't see anything about Naziism. The page looks fine, and the tagbombing you've done doesn't seem justified here. The page itself is an introduction to the list: there were quite literally many thousands of states in the HRE as taken over the total 800+ year history of it, and the page lays out what those states were in general terms: the actual list has been split off into alphabetical subpages because it would be too unweildy to keep in one place, so you can find the actual lists at pages like List of states in the Holy Roman Empire (A) and following; those are navigable from the box at the top of the article you linked. --Jayron32 04:41, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    OH!!! I get your confusion. You're confusing the Holy Roman Empire with the Roman Empire. I get it. The Holy Roman Empire was an entity that existed in Central Europe (essentially Modern Germany extended out a few hundred miles in all directions) from the late 10th to the 19th century AD. It has no real historical connection to the Roman Empire which existed from AD 27 - late 5th century (in the west) or - late 15th century (in the East). They're two completely unrelated entities. In the early years, the Holy Roman Empire acted like any other feudal kingdom in Europe: It was basically the Kingdom of Germany (and other states, I know, it also controlled Northern Italy, Bohemia, Provence, etc. But it was always a German state in its hierarchy). As time went on, a series of events reduced the Empire to a purely nominal existences, the supposed "vassals" that made up the Empire became effectively independent states. --Jayron32 04:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Understood, however isn't the article deviating too much from the topic? The MOS (WP:MOS) gives a very simple idea of what a list should be. Shouldn't this article be split into seperate articles for the list, glossary, philosophy etc. listed in the page? -Wikishagnik (talk) 05:08, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    If the list were short enough for one page, shouldn't any relevant glossary be on the same page?
    The "philosophy" section, as you call it, addresses (perhaps too obliquely) the question of what belongs on the list. Because of the vague and changing nature of the Empire, disagreements are inevitable over what to count as member states. It would be misleading not to discuss such questions. —Tamfang (talk) 05:35, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Can I use a public domain picture in wikipedia?

    Hello. I'm Heewon Cho, an editor of a publishing company in South Korea. I have read the FAQ about copyright, but still have a question. We are now preparing to translate and publish a book originally written in USA, and the original book contains an image that is from Wikipedia.

    The publishing company in USA(InterVarsity Press) says that since the image is public domain(its copyright has expired in the United States), they just informed Wekipedia that they are going to use the image in their book.

    So can we use the image also in the translated book? the image is 'The Incredulity of Saint Thomas(Caravaggio)' File:Caravaggio incredulity.jpg

    We are always grateful for your amazing information.

    We will wait for your answer then. Have a nice day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.85.252.114 (talk) 06:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It is indeed in the public domain - most likely worldwide, I'm not aware of any country that has 400+ year copyright terms - so you can use it freely. Roger (talk) 06:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    "Brant House" difficulties

    I recently created a page for Brant House as something was required to bring together several disparate articles mentioned this so-called author.. When looking for references to this "House name" I found that 2 pages relating to Ace Books, List of Ace titles in first DGS series and List of Ace single volumes have similar content, but do not exactly cover the same ground. I don't know how to deal with this. Furthermore, I am not sure where to go with the Brant House article as my "references" are the other pages at Wikipedia that I have referred to amd I don't know what categories, etc. to apply to the article.Collywolly (talk) 07:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Eshmunazar Article - Font Problem

    I contacted the Wikipedia E-mail address to "Report a Problem." They said it was probably a "browser problem" and could best be helped by you. See Wikipedia "Eshmunazar" Article; scroll down to "Original Inscription" supposedly in Phoenician script. My screen shows hundreds of little boxes instead of characters for the 34 line Inscription. I am in Munich, Germany. A colleague in the USA gets the same results. The correct inscription facimile is contained in the Spanish cross reference (in blue)at the bottom of the Wikipedia Article: after clicking on that you are in a .pdf document in Spanish -- just scroll on down to page 13. And, "voila," there is what should be up in the "Original Inscription" section. Now how to get it there, legally ?Franklin Paladin (talk) 08:27, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks good to me. Most likely you (and your colleague) don't have a font installed that has the relevant range of Unicode (10900 – 1091B). Try Quivira. —Tamfang (talk) 08:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I downloaded Quivira and passed it over to the Font file C:Windows/Fonts and it's verifiedas being in there but no success on the Boxes.Franklin Paladin (talk) 09:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The string "Original Inscription" only occurs in the section Eshmunazar#Hebrew transcription which displays fine for me. If you refer to Eshmunazar#Original Phoenician text (the last section before references; the section heading may be hidden behind File:Eshmunazar transcription.pdf), then it's also boxes for me. Here is the first line:
    1. 𐤁𐤉𐤓𐤇 𐤁𐤋 𐤁𐤔𐤍𐤕 𐤏𐤎𐤓 𐤅𐤀𐤓𐤁𐤏 14 𐤋𐤌𐤋𐤊𐤉 𐤌𐤋𐤊 𐤀𐤔𐤌𐤍𐤏𐤆𐤓 𐤌𐤋𐤊 𐤑𐤃𐤍𐤌
    I haven't tried to download a font which can display it but see Help:Special characters#Ancient scripts. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Dear Prime Hunter. As usual, you are "right on" and have displayed the area that I and my colleague are having trouble with. I had downloaded a Quivira 3.8 file of 1.6 MB and at his stated 10,343 characters the file I downloaded seems a bit small to contain so many Fonts. I'm still up a tree. My computer is only 1 year old --- a H-P Presario CQ56 --- I can't imagine why your Esmunazar Article uses a font that the majority of Computer users does not have (unless they download it). I followed all the suggested links Help:Special characters#Ancient scripts and get boxes there as well as in the Wikipedia Phoenician Article as well as in the Unicode section of commercial Fonts available from Alan what's his name I'll try Google Chrome. But, what next Coach? Franklin Paladin (talk) 14:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I tried using Google Chrome as my browser but to no avail -- still boxes 80.226.24.9 (talk) 14:35, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I fired up my character map and switched to Unicode to search for an individual numbered character - again no dice - it, would you believe it ?(the prompt mask) limits you to 4 digits in Unicodes -- five (5) digit codes have been out on the streets for years ! Franklin Paladin (talk) 14:47, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The article is about an ancient Phoenician inscription so it seems natural to include it in Phoenician even if most browsers cannot display it. They can still see it in several other languages. People who actually know Phoenician can probably also display it in their browser. And unlike an image, the text is available for copy-pasting. You can for example copy-paste to the "Characters" field at http://rishida.net/tools/conversion/ and click "View names". This will give you images and names of the characters. The bottom of Phoenician alphabet says it has a link to a Unicode Phoenician font. I have no use for it and will not experiment with it PrimeHunter (talk) 15:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Dear Prime Hunter. Thanks for your help and endless patience. I have now downloaded and installed 3 different Fonts each including their version of Phoenician. One even includes a keyboard layout in the ZIP file. All to no avail because when in get in Wikipedia, I can't call up the Character map and my browser won't interpret the code of each box. Well no matter, I already have a facimile(.pdf) of the inscription in question in an hourglass shape (as on the top of the sarcophagus)and would offer to paste it into your article, except it's so old that it's Copyright and permission to use would be questionable. It matches exactly the the correct inscription facimile as contained in the Spanish cross reference (in blue) at the bottom of the Wikipedia Article, so I know it's authentic. End of Topic and tips. Thanks for the lift.Franklin Paladin (talk) 16:20, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Mobile wikipedia

    I am experiencing a problem using wikipedia on mobile phones. I am now only getting subject headings which when selected do not open up the relevant text. Please help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.144.73 (talk) 09:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Try asking at the Village Pump. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 13:20, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Failed to donate

    I tried to donate- but this came on the screen when I entered my security code " Not Found The requested object does not exist on this server. The link you followed is either outdated, inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to let you have it." Sorry! I do wish to support Wiki.You are doing a fantastic job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Launderette (talk • contribs) 09:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for your support. I hope you were at the domain https://donate.wikimedia.org where donations are made. This help desk is manned by volunteer editors without inside access to the donation system. There is an email address at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Problems_donating/en. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:04, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Concerning 'Notes' (or 'References') section in article

    When citing the same references several times, how do I avoid the automated reference generator making the references as a new one?

    Ex. 

    ==Header==
Writing about the topic Writing about the topic Writing about the topic <ref>ABCD<ref/> ... ... ...

==New header==
Writing about the topic Writing about the topic Writing about the topic <ref>ABCD<ref/>

... ... ...

==References==
1 ABCD
2 ABCD

    Article for which helpo is needed: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Henrik_Wen%C3%B8e&action=edit

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesperbp (talk • contribs) 10:34, 9 October 2012‎

    You can read about this at WP:REFNAME. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I usually run the WP:REFLINKS tool. It also takes bare URL references and applies properly formatted cite templates. Roger (talk) 11:25, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    LAN connection facilities not available

    I would like to inform you about LAN connection facilities ,which is not available in two system i.e. Desk 1 and Desk 3. So kindly,send me the contact person detail for rectification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.56.254.114 (talk) 11:03, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 PrimeHunter (talk) 11:06, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Rijeka Tourist Board - problems editing article on the City of Rijeka

    Dear Sir/Madam, we are writing to you in relation to Wikipedia's article on the City of Rijeka (Rijeka). As Rijeka Tourist Board we are trying to keep online information on Rijeka as accurate and up to date as possible. We tried to add some new information in the current article on two occasions, but after some time the text we entered got rejected. We succeeded to do the same thing on WikiTravel article on Rijeka, but had no luck on Wikipedia. The message we received is that our edits were promotional in tone and highly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. We guess the main problems were links made to our webpage, but our intention was not to promote the page itself, but to provide more quality information on Rijeka. Although the article is excellently written and really informative, we tried to add more information on Rijeka's main sights, because that section is deficient compared to others. Also, we would like to change main link to the website that now leads to Rijeka's City pages, which is oriented more on citizens of Rijeka (with city councils, municipal institutions etc.), and put the one that leads to Rijeka Tourist Board pages (http://www.tz-rijeka.hr/en/), which are more suitable and informative for visitors. We would like to ask for your assistance on this matter. Thank you in advance for your reply. Kind regards, Rijeka Tourist Board Karolinarijecka (talk) 12:23, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You have been warned about not making these alterations. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tourist guidebook nor a tool to lure visitors. Your conflict of interest seems to have blinded you to this. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Because of your conflict of interest, you should request changes by posting on the article's talk page rather than editing the article directly. Other users will review your requests to see if they comply with policy and guidelines. Please also take a look at WP:BESTCOI and WP:BFAQ. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 13:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    wrong date (1948 should be 1848) - Gustave Kahnt

    Gustave Kahnt (1848–1923) was a Luxembourg composer and conductor of German origin.

    Born in on 7 October 1948 in Berlin, Kahnt was naturalized as a Luxembourger in 1890. From 1881–1909 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.217.37.115 (talk) 12:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed. Rojomoke (talk) 12:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Non-editable Wikipedia Pages

    I have seen some pages on Wikipedia that are editable and some are not. What are some topics that are non-editable on Wikipedia? How do we know that the information provided on the page is relevant or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.189.37.27 (talk) 13:00, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Some pages on Wikipedia are protected, meaning that they cannot be edited by unregistered users (or, in some cases, non-admin users). This is usually done in cases where multiple unregistered users have been vandalising the article, and blocking them individually will not suffice to prevent the damage. Protected articles usually have a small padlock icon in the top right. If you find such a page and want to change something, the correct approach is to post your request on the article's talkpage and tag it with {{edit request}}. Another editor who can edit the page can then change it for you if they agree. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:05, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    However the edit will count as a contribution for that editor who actually made it, not for the one who requested it... CiaPan (talk) 13:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    If you want to suggest an edit to an article with no "Edit" tab then click the "View source" tab instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - to see what the actual wiki markup says. The proposed edit still needs to go on the talk page. The attribution is not in the article history but is still on the talk page. In many cases the actual edit though will be slightly different than what had been proposed. Apteva (talk) 16:19, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    If you click the "View source" tab then you get information about page protection and instructions for submitting an edit request including a direct link to do it with a preloaded template. It's the easiest way to do it. Some editors think the tab should simply be named "Edit" even for users who cannot edit the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:00, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    So there are no specific banned/restricted topics that are non-editable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.189.63.254 (talk) 17:13, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Only those specific articles which, to prevent vandalism or other disruption, have been locked down. But there's no topic-wide restrictions in place: such decisions are done on an article-by-article basis, and only in such a manner as to stop actual disruption. If there's an article you are trying to edit, but cannot, you can request that it be unprotected at WP:RFPP in the appropriate section. Some protections may be lifted if it is clear that they are no longer warranted. --Jayron32 18:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Submitting Translation

    How can I submit a translation of a wikipedia page/article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sapha AbdAllah (talk • contribs) 14:40, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    From and to which language? See Wikipedia:Translation and Wikipedia:Your first article. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:58, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    facebook shortcuts

    it would be great to add social media links!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.189.67.126 (talk) 14:45, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If you mean a way to easily share an article on Facebook or other sites then:
    Template:HD/share
    PrimeHunter (talk) 15:02, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    See also here for why this isn't included by default. --Colapeninsula (talk) 22:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Article Title Changed When Accepted

    Hello.

    I created an article entitled, "Socioscientific Issues." When it was accepted this week, it was changed to "Socio-scientific issues."

    Is there a way to correct this? The correct title is two words (no hyphen) and both are capitalized. I don't seem to be able to edit the title.

    Thanks very much.

    samiscienceSamiscience (talk) 14:55, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The creator does not have a special right to control the title of an article. No one "owns" an article. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization) says: "Do not capitalize the second or subsequent words in an article title, unless the title is a proper noun." Your heading here also has unusual capitalization for Wikipedia. A Google search shows it's both common to write socio-scientific with and without a hyphen. See for example a Google Scholar search "Socio-scientific+issues". Wikipedia:Moving a page explains how to change a title but it seems your suggested title should go through Wikipedia:Requested moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:14, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You will need to discuss this at Talk:Socio-scientific issues. We don't tend to capitalize topic names just to facilitate the creation of yet another TLA. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    How to italicized article titles

    Hi. I've been trying to italicized the titles of these two articles (1 and 2), as per WP:ITALICTITLE, but I can't seem to get the hang of it. I've tried using Template:Italic title and DISPLAYTITLE but it doesn't seem to be working. Any suggestions? Thanks. WWETrishMickiefan (talk) 15:42, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed. I am not sure why italic title did not work, but Displaytitle did {{DISPLAYTITLE:''The Naked Truth'' (Lil' Kim album)}} Apteva (talk) 16:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The album infobox is coded to render the title in italics automatically so I don't know why it's not working properly in this article - maybe the ' in the disambiguation parentheses is foiling the template coding. I have asked at Template talk:Infobox album#Italic title redux.--ukexpat (talk) 16:58, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Dennis Stratton - Ex member of Iron Maiden

    Dennis Stratton's Date of Birth is incorrect the correct date is today 09th October 1952 not 9th November 1952 please update — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.210.255 (talk) 16:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    This source says 9th November. Do you have a reliable source for your claim? --Anbu121 (talk me) 16:41, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have changed the entry based on this reliable source. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Change main Photo

    How can I change the main photo on the page entry and does it need to be hosted on another site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GilliKeiko (talk • contribs) 17:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Which page are you referring to? AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:52, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm guessing you mean the first photo in some Wikipedia article. The answer to your second question is no, it may not be hosted on another site: Wikipedia will not show pictures unless they have been uploaded to the same language Wikipedia, or to Wikimedia Commons. If you wish to replace the picture in an article by another one, you need to verify that the copyright status of the image you want to use is suitable, upload it, and edit the page to refer to the new image. See WP:Uploading images. --ColinFine (talk) 18:48, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Worth Mitchell

    In a self written article, this person state he invested in my husbands project and that he owed my husbands plane that he was killed in. These and other lies are in an article on Wikibin. I would love to have them deleted, this is slandering my husbands good name. I don't want to go to court, but I do feel it is important to my family and our healing that it be removed. I realize that he can say what ever he wishes, but if something in the article refers to someone else and is not true, then its only fair it be removed Laura Manning — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.110.173.189 (talk) 19:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sorry, but we have nothing to do with Wikibin, whose purpose is to preserve the things we have discarded or removed from Wikipedia. You will have to contact Wikibin directly yourself. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:28, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It may not be relevant, but Wikipedia does not approve of self-written articles. That may be why the article was removed from here. Maproom (talk) 20:59, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have now read the article on Wikibin. As Orangemike said, there is nothing anyone here can do about its presence there. But I would like to point out that any intelligent person, reading that article, will realise that its writer lacks all credibility. Maproom (talk) 21:12, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I have received an email saying that I wrote a wiki page on myself. Which I didn't.

    Hi - I have received an email saying that I have written a wiki page on myself. I didn't. I wrote it about my friend. The message said that the page may well be deleted. How can I contact back to explain that I'm not writing about myself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GwendolynneB (talk • contribs) 23:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    First the issue of not writing about yourself is moot if your friend still doesn't pass WP:NOTABILITY but that is assuming your friend is non-notable or not famous, if so you may try to reply to the address in the email and/or start a discussion on the articles delete talk section. Hope this helps! Marketdiamond (talk) 00:03, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I assume the article concerned is the one at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Gwendolynne Burkin. If so, and you are not Gwendolynne Burkin, the username you have chosen is contrary to our Wikipedia:Username policy in that it implies you are someone else - the real Gwendolynne Burkin. If you wish to continue editing Wikipedia, you will have to change your username: see the 'Changing your username' section in the policy. Looking at the proposed article though, I suspect that doing this will be more trouble than it is worth, in there appears to be little possibility that an article on Gwendolynne Burkin could be justified under the Wikipedia:Notability (people) guidelines, even if the necessary sources could be found. I suggest that you read the WP:CREATIVE section of the guidelines, and then ask yourself whether sufficient credible third-party published sources could be found to meet the criteria. If there aren't, your friend will not unfortunately merit an article in Wikipedia. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:27, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec) Yes, I was about to say the same thing. Your username implies that you are the same person. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that you did indeed write an article about yourself. See Wikipedia:Autobiography; writing about yourself is strongly discouraged.
    Also, please read and understand Wikipedia:Conflict of interest regardless of who you are, because you clearly have a conflict of interest. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:29, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    October 10

    Resubmitted entry twice. 1st time forgot to make changes. 2nd time after changes

    The article I wrote was rejected because the language read like an advertisement. I changed the language and resubmitted. However, before I made the changes I mistakenly resubmitted before I made the corrections. My submission was denied based on the fact that no changes were made but the 2nd time I submitted the article the changes had been made. Article in question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orient.wiki/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orient.wiki (talk • contribs) 00:40, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You have made only small changes since mid-September, as far as I can tell; are you about to make more edits? When you are ready to submit the draft again, add this code to the top: {{subst:submit}} and then save the page. That will add it to the queue for review. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Contents box

    I've been editing this page, and have a question about the Contents box:

    Earl of Devon

    I added an image to the page, and I'm not certain whether this caused the problem or not, but the Contents box now spills a long way down the left side of the page, leaving a lot of blank space beside it on the right hand side of the page. Is there a way I can fix this? NinaGreen (talk) 00:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It seems to be a fairly common problem where articles have a longish contents list - see say Elvis Presley or Julian Assange for articles with a similar effect. I suspect that it may be a consequence of having to allow for varying-width displays - if the content box took up most of the width, having text running along the side would look very odd, so it is probably better to keep the space to the right empty. You could try asking the wizards in the basement over at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) though - they may know more. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! If it's a common problem, I can live with it. :-) NinaGreen (talk) 14:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    One thing you can do is find an object to fill the space. If you append an image or some appropriate template to the lead section of an article, it will occupy space to the right of the table of contents. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:26, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for this very useful suggestion. NinaGreen (talk) 14:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with edit

    Hey, How can I add a new photo for Edmonton Alberta? Where do I go in edit? Please advise Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dastyle 88 (talk • contribs) 01:30, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You should go to the appropriate article, click on edit and place an expression like:

    [[File:Descriptive title of image.svg|100px]]

    ...in the appropriate place, and then click "preview changes." This will show you about where the image will be, in the form of a red link. Then click on the redlink (preferably in a different tab or window), and the upload wizard will guide you from there. Once you have successfully uploaded it, then go back to the original tab and click "preview changes again. This should reveal what the thing will look like. Adjust the location of the expression, and the image size (the number immediately before "px"). When you are satisfied, click "save."

    (Remember to always sign discussion with ~~~~)

    Greg Bard (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with parcer functions in a template

    Greetings,

    I am trying to create a template that provides links to reference resources based on the name of the Wikipedia article. I have a functional one that will link to a general search, but there are more appropriate, and specific resources for this. My limitation, is that these external websites do not have straightforward urls. I am looking for a way to use "magic words" and/or parcer functions, etcetera. Fortunately, I have been in communication with the PhilPapers website and they have revealed to me that their urls can be constructed as follows:

    1. Take the Wikipedia title
    2. Remove all diacritics
    3. Convert to lowercase
    4. Replace all characters that are not letters, numbers, or hyphens by hyphens

    This is my initial attempt:

    Can someone point me in the right direction?Greg Bard (talk) 02:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    What is currently not working with the template you have right now? –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The links that it provides do not accomplish the four steps I mentioned. Instead, the urls it produces have a lot of junk in them, like the "replace" function. In any case such a template as is, would not work if placed under external links in, for instance, John Locke.Greg Bard (talk) 04:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I've tried some things to it with no avail. :( –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the effort. I can tell you that the "PAGENAMEE" with the extra "E" isn't a typo. It makes the output continuous (rather than with spaces.)Greg Bard (talk) 06:20, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, I put the "E" back. Anyway, the problem is that the replace function won't parse and instead gets added on to the url itself. –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:25, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    There is no such #replace parser function. A template cannot do what you want with the current software. It may become possible in 2013 with mw:Lua. The right encoding must be added as a parameter to the template, for example by a bot if somebody will add the task. I'm not aware of any current source template like {{Find sources}} which does this. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:28, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    To clarify: #replace is from the StringFunctions MediaWiki extension, which is not enabled on any Wikimedia site. System administrators decided long ago not to deploy that extension, instead favoring the more flexible Lua scripting approach that is currently under development. At least for now, the relevant portion of the URL should be specified as a template parameter, which will also help keep our article titles independent of their category system. As PrimeHunter mentioned, the conversion could instead be implemented as part of a bot that adds the template to articles. PleaseStand (talk) 12:51, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you PrimeHunter and PleaseStand. I am an AutoWikiBrowser user, so there is hope. However I do find it unfortunate that this can't be worked out on the template itself. Be well, Greg Bard (talk) 22:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Pending deletion and user problem

    Hello,

    I have two problems.

    First, I'm a registered user and confirmed my email address and yet I can't upload images.

    Second, I have added a book that I have just read. It is a great book and the distributor said it will likely become a best-seller is the sale hold. Destined for Oblivion: As Nature Intended is the title. But it is pending deletion after I collected all the data, references and wrote text. Non-notable author / book it says. Stephen King was a no body at one point, too and I see tons of books and authors listed that are totally unremarkable. This book as a full website, trailer, interviews and is available everywhere I looked... How to fight the deletion?

    Please help me.

    Thanks, Professor David Gibbs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Profgibby (talk • contribs) 03:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    First, in order to upload images to Wikipedia, you must be WP:Autoconfirmed. If the image is free licensed, however, you can upload to Wikimedia Commons with no such restriction.
    Second, see WP:NBOOK for the "notability" standard for books. If and when the book becomes notable, somebody can write an article about it. —teb728 t c 04:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    First: It's the image on the cover of the book. It's a royalty free image as per the official website. Second: I have read the notability, it's rather subjective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dotnhack (talk • contribs) 06:13, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Read Free license. It is not about royalties but rather about permission to use without restriction. The publisher is very unlikely to allow the cover to be used by anyone for anything; so you will have to wait until your account is four days old before you can upload.
    The only references in the Destined for Oblivion article are to the book itself. So there is no independent reliable sourcing whatever to support any claim of notability for the book, and there is nothing subjective about that. —teb728 t c 07:58, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec)The notability standard is not subjective at all, it is designed specifically to render the opinions of the article writers (that's you, me and everyone else here) irrelevant. We require there to be independent third party published sources about the subject. In the case of books that usually means sources such as reviews in the mainstream press. The book itself is only a source for it's own content, it cannot support any claim of notability. You should also read WP:UPANDCOMING. Roger (talk) 08:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Stephen King was a nobody at one point - and if Wikipedia had been around then, he would not have had an article in it. Once he became notable - because reliable independent sources had written about him - he could have an article. --ColinFine (talk) 08:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    History link deported into javascript hell

    I found today that the [history] button has been deported into some messy java menu. Which preference do I set to have it back as a direct link? I find this "improvement" really annoying. Existing javascript(s) also cause "busy" problems with the browser. Electron9 (talk) 05:56, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Which skin do you have at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? Have you recently changed something in your preferences? Do you view Wikipedia with a larger font or more narrow window than usually? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Default, ie haven't changed anything. So programmers of wikipedia have changed the menu. Electron9 (talk) 23:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not that simple. The default skin is Vector which has a tab saying "View history", not "history". What does your link say? In Vector, if the "Talk" and "Read" tab come too close together then the "View history" tab may be moved to a drop-down box. This can for example happen if you increase the font size (try Ctrl+0 to reset it), or use a narrow window, or view a page with more tabs than usual. Talk pages and some other pages like this one has a "New section" tab. Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets has the option: Change the "new section" tab text to instead display the much narrower "+". Does that help? There are other ways to reduce the width of tabs if you still have too little room. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It's very simple, it worked, now it doesn't. It's correct the name now is "view history" and Ctrl+0 didn't change anything. The preference tab didn't fix the problem either. I have contributed a lot over the years. I think the people responsible for the javascripts cause less valuable input to wikipedia to be made. It's counterproductive. Electron9 (talk) 12:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    A lot of things can affect how many tabs there are room for in Vector, and some tabs are only present on some pages. How much space do you have between the "Talk" and "Read" tabs compared to the width of the "Read" tab? Do you want code to change "View history" to something shorter like "Hist" so it will maybe fit as a tab instead of being moved to a menu? Saving the below in Special:MyPage/common.js will change "View history" to "Hist" but I have no way of knowing whether it will fit in your window. Other tabs can also be shortened. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    $(document).ready( function () {
    var tab, tablink;
    tab = document.getElementById('ca-history');
    if ( !tab ) {
        return;
    }
    tablink = tab.getElementsByTagName('a')[0];
    if ( !tablink ) {
        return;
    }
    tablink.firstChild.nodeValue = 'Hist';
});

    Nationalisation of Northern Rock

    There is an obscenity in the second line of this entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.181.248.252 (talk) 06:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Looks like the automated bots picked it up and removed it: [1]. Thanks for being diligent. In the future, if you see obvious vandalism like this, you can just go ahead and remove it. No one here complains if you fix things that are broken. --Jayron32 06:40, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    pictures

    Hi How do i align images on a page so they are staggered to the left and right ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cybaaudi (talk • contribs) 08:33, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You can just add |left or |right to the image. For example, [[File:sample.jpg|left]]. For more information please see Help:Wiki_markup#Images --Anbu121 (talk me) 09:16, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you mean WP:WIKIMARKUP#Images. Dismas|(talk) 09:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)Thanks, fixed it now--Anbu121 (talk me) 09:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Upload a picture

    I want to upload a picture to an article but it won't let me. Why? Iowafromiowa (talk) 10:02, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Your account is not autoconfirmed yet so you cannot upload images directly to the English Wikipedia. If the image license allows it then you can still start the upload here but upload it to Wikimedia Commons and use it in a Wikipedia article. Where is the image from and where do you want to use it?
    • If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
    • If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.Template:Z40 PrimeHunter (talk) 11:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I want to upload a picture from the Official website of the Prime Minister of Canada, do you know under what license does it lie? and secondly, how do I autoconfirm my account? Thank you indeed very much. Iowafromiowa (talk) 11:59, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I copied your latest post from my talk page. Continue a discussion here by clicking the "edit" link to the right of the section heading. You already have more than 10 edits so your account will automatically be autoconfirmed 4 days (precisely 96 hours) after the account creation seen at Special:Log/Iowafromiowa. Please give a link to the page where the image is, and say which article you want to use it in. Wikipedia allows commercial reuse of our content so http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/notices.asp#Copyright does not sound promising. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:11, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    wrong rules for classification cant be edited

    The rules for 2012–13 F.C. Internazionale Milano season Serie A classification is wrong...

    the is rules for classification: 1st points; 2nd head-to-head points; 3rd head-to-head goal difference; 4th head-to-head goals scored; 5th goal difference; 6th number of goals scored. as can see it at 2012-13 Serie A

    while its listed at 2012–13 F.C. Internazionale Milano season Rules for classification: 1) points; 2) goal difference; 3) number of goals scored.

    and i cant find a way to fix it !

    Adnan 10 October —Preceding undated comment added 10:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It appears this edit has fixed it by adding hth=yes to the template which produces the text. See the documentation of the hth parameter at Template:Fb cl footer. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you i didnt know that . AdnanTalk 5.54 10 october 2012 (UTC)

    Resolved

    Artin Dadyan Pasha

    Hi, theres more information then just him being the secretary of ottoman empire I can provide.

    as the great grand daughter of Yervant Dadyan Pasha I wold like to show everyone who dadyan family really is!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.216.198.178 (talk • contribs)

    1) remember, we need verifable material published in neutral, reliable sources
    2) your obvious conflict of interest can potentially be a problem, especially if you do not respect our neutral point-of-view policy. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    OrangeMike makes a good point, Wikipedia is always interested in more reliable sourced encyclopedic content for articles however on some items that could be contested as point of view it may be better to discuss on that articles talk page first and await feedback and suggestions on how to post it in the article. Thanks for your continued contributions! Marketdiamond (talk) 04:28, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    organization of prohibition chemical weapon.

    History of organization of prohibition chemical weapon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.70.113 (talk) 16:24, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Does chemical weapon help?--ukexpat (talk) 16:28, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Help regarding FGFC820 article

    FGFC820 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    Ok so I copied the bio from fgfc820.com but I refrenced and sited it, is that still not allowed even when you cited it? --Supreme Overlord 16:39, 10 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chance.purvis (talk • contribs)

    In short, no. You cannot copy-paste, or even lightly paraphrase material subject to copyright, unless it has a free license. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    ... and you would also need independent reliable sources to support the information in the article, and to demonstrate the notability of the subject. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:09, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Jain University

    The article named "Jain University" has a problem. There seems to be an image in the article, but its not showing up. I am a student of this university and I tried to upload an image of my own, but it did not accept it. So if you could either remove the image or add one, it would be a lot of help Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dilip437 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Simple correction. The file name was File:Jain University Campus.jpeg, and you had forgotten the extension and just used File:Jain University Campus. Sorted now. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:40, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Tsalas

    I created a show called: Star Trek Bridge Commander (TV Series). When I make and post an article about it on Wikipedia, It gets deleted. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsalas10 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Please read the comments on your talk page. The article was deleted twice as a test page, once because you put nothing onto it, and once because you've repeatedly been creating it despite deletion. Wikipedia isn't for things made up one day, including DVD series that are available from the creator's family. Nyttend (talk) 20:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You created the show? It's likely not notable enough for inclusion. See WP:Notability. Since you had a hand in making it, see WP:Conflict of interest as well. Dismas|(talk) 20:01, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Spam link help

    What's the link that we give people when they complain about Wikipedia having in-text advertising links? I know that this isn't WP:RD/C, but we get enough misguided questions here that I expect this to be the best place to go. Nyttend (talk) 19:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you looking for {{HD/Ads}} ? -- John of Reading (talk) 19:52, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    [edit conflict] Moreover, what's wrong with Tsalas' contributions? I clicked it to help answer his question above, and I was surprised to see that one of the bullets went nowhere; is this perhaps caused by the same malware that's producing the spam links on my browser? Nyttend (talk) 19:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, that was the template in question; thanks for the help. Nyttend (talk) 19:55, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I too can see the empty bullet, but I am sure that my PC doesn't have any malware --Anbu121 (talk me) 20:10, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    {{HD/Ads}} was based on WP:RFAQ#ADS. Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Bizarre edit history and bugzilla:39062 are about other cases of empty bullets in contributions. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Starting a new account to avoid hounding

    Is throwing in my account and starting again with a new one a legitimate way to avoid being wikihounded by another editor? If not what are the other options that are available? Dlv999 (talk) 20:27, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Clean start. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry for your troubles, it may be wiser to retain your username and report any activity by the editor you feel is "hounding" you to administrators etc. There are protocols and levels of notification you may use to report anything that makes you uncomfortable at Wikipedia. Best of luck. Marketdiamond (talk) 22:41, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Also creating a new account would likely not stop the hounding if you continue editing the same articles and places you were editing with the prior account. Marketdiamond gave good advice. WP:ANI is the appropriate venue to report these problems. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:20, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Please delete copyvios

    Resolved

    Please delete Dooman River, it is a full copyvio from http://catalogue.globalfilm.org/new-releases/now-playing/dooman-river.html/ . Please check the other articles of User:Eholderm, there seem to be more copyvios. And please make your rules to delete articles simpler. I have no idea how it works. --188.101.9.245 (talk) 22:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    marked. thanks. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 22:17, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    For future reference, you can put the template {{db-copyvio|url=sourceurl}} at the top of any article that's a copyright violation, replacing sourceurl with the link to the copyrighted page. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    October 11

    My photos

    Why do my photos I add to Edmonton Alberta page keeping getting taken off???? They are mine and the ones on the Edmonton page were ugly. How can I get my photos to stay?

    Thanx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dastyle 88 (talk • contribs) 04:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Here are two things I think might be issues:
    1) According to the revision history, apparently other editors seem to think the photos are not in the right location. Have you checked that the location where you are placing them is the correct place?
    2) Are you sure your photos have been properly marked as free (your own work being released for anyone to use) on Commons?
    Also, you might want to discuss about these photos on the talk page before adding them.
    Finally, please remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~).
    Hope this helps,
    –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 05:01, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Anonymouse321 makes a great point, unfortunately with something as specific as a certain file or edit (or deletion) the best HD can do is advise to politely contact that editor on their talk page, or deletion log or on the articles talk page as to the reasons/justifications for their actions so that you may better work out any differences or clear up any confusion. To answer your "why" beyond pointing you there would be to speculate. Marketdiamond (talk) 08:36, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Beltracchi Wolfgang wiki page external links.

    Since a few days I am treying to remove the beltracchi-project link. Because this project does not exist any more since the September 1th. 2012

    Regardes Beltracchi
    Hi, Welcome to the Helpdesk! (Please take a moment to press the ~ 4 times in order to leave your signature and talk page for reference!) Your question/request is a bit confusing, might you be referring to the hyperlink on this: Wolfgang_Beltracchi#Notes_and_references list? I also see that there is a German language wiki article, does it also have a similar issue? Thanks. Marketdiamond (talk) 08:42, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You should discuss your proposed changes on the article talk page, Talk:Wolfgang_Beltracchi. Your username suggests you are the subject of the article (or someone closely connected with him. If you are, you are strongly discouraged from editing article directly; please read WP:COI. —teb728 t c 10:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The question has been addressed at Talk:Wolfgang_Beltracchi. Superp (talk) 10:30, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Repeated Selected Article, Selected Picture, Dou You Know and News

    Hi,

    It is my daily habit to come to office and visit news website and wikipedia and see Main page and above stated portals like (Technology, Science (Physics, Chemistry, Biology), History and rarely Arts) for about 7 years.

    I have notices that "Selected Article, Selected Picture, Dou You Know and News" gets repeated very often and infact I have seen same content more than 10 times. I have read them all and want to know more. Hence, It will be good if people like us gets new everyday without repetition. Offcource you can have links for most favourite or most popular if you wish people should know them since I feel that posting them on regular basis you want users to know these topics.

    Also on some portals like Biology the contents does not change for long period of time. It is frustrating to see same page everyday. You have millions of information to give to us.

    I hope you got my feelings that I want to convey.

    Thanks and Regards, Vikash Anand — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.191.35.22 (talk) 11:01, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think so (i.e. selected articles (i.e. featured articles) etc get repeated). Can you mention an article or two which ha(s/ve) been repeated! --Tito Dutta ✉ 11:43, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Vikash refers to the portal pages linked at the top right of the main page, for example Portal:Technology. The editors of each portal can make different choices. Portal pages have a limited amount of selected content and many of them switch randomly between it each time the portal page is rerendered by our software. A reader can rerender Portal:Technology by clicking "View new selections below (purge)". Portal pages get far less attention from both readers and editors than Main Page. For example, Portal:Technology gets around 2,000 daily page views where Main Page gets 8,000,000. Portal:Biology only gets 300. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for providing information about the link "View new selections below (purge)". I was not aware of usage of this link. Repeated click brought new things to read but even then 90 percent of the things I have already read in wikipedia (cant help as I am avid fan of wikipedia and I use wikipedia daily for 1-2 hours reading anything that intrests me). Also, this link is not there in Portal like Biology. I like Biology portal since I was a good student of Biology in my college days. Can editors of wikipedia provide Random Articles in each portal that brings subjects related to that portal only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.191.35.22 (talk) 13:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Above comment was by me (Vikash Anand) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.191.35.22 (talk) 13:33, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Template:Infobox theatre group

    I used this infobox in few article, in those articles the code is working fine, right now I need to use this once again, but I can't see anything in Template:Infobox theatre group. Did they try to merge/redirect it to Template infobox organization? Confused!--Tito Dutta ✉ 11:40, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If you try to edit the template you'll see that it is a wrapper for Template:infobox organization, and this is what the documentation page says, but I think it might be clearer if the parameters were explained on the documentation page as they used to be. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:23, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:SPI or WP:AE

    Resolved

    Note I'm not giving explicit details to avoid any drama here.

    At a controversial topic, an IP user is suspected of being a sockpuppet of a user who is, topic banned, restricted to one account and prohibited from editing anonymously. The suspicions have not been investigated or tested to my knowledge, but several users have mooted them in the ongoing page move discussion.

    Should the first step be to WP:SPI to see if the anonymous user is a sockpuppet of the topic-banned user or to WP:AE to report the suspected breaches of restrictions without evidence from SPI? Thryduulf (talk) 12:40, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm fairly certain ArbCom members have CheckUser access, so WP:AE would get the attention of someone who BOTH knows the background of the case and can look into it. They deal with things like this a lot, so bringing it to their attention may be the best way to handle it. --Jayron32 13:55, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thryduulf, I'm guessing who you are referring to. If I'm correct, then if you decide to file at SPI you should get prompt action. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 14:13, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you both for the replies. I've chosen to report it at WP:AE based on Jayron32's comment that sockpuppet checks can be done by people active there too. Thryduulf (talk) 16:12, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Authority control template

    I've done some editing on the article for Edmund Mortimer, 5th Earl of March, and today an edit was made by a VIAFbot which added an Authority Control template:

    [2]

    I clicked on the link to 'Authority Control', and it indicates that the template causes the page to be closely watched, and suggests that future proposed changes to the article should be discussed on the Talk page. From the time the article was first created the Talk page has only a single comment on it from 2 February 2008, and even then the editor who posted that comment was only musing about the fact that Edmund Mortimer should have been King.

    I'm therefore rather puzzled about the addition of an Authority Control template to the page. Can anyone fill me in as to why a bot would have done this? It doesn't appear that the article is controversial in any way, and considering the lack of discussion on the Talk page to date, that anyone would respond even if prospective changes were posted on the Talk page. NinaGreen (talk) 14:58, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I'd take another look at the link - it is nothing more than a library indexing and cataloguing system. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:04, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) I think you've misread. It doesn't say that the article on Edmund Mortimer, 5th Earl of March is going to be closely watched and needs talk page discussion; that warning is on the page for the template. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:08, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the comments. I'm wondering whether the recent changes made by another editor to the sources I'd cited triggered the bot? Perhaps this particular bot is activated by changes made to cited sources? NinaGreen (talk) 15:47, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It seems unrelated to edits of the article. User:VIAFbot#About this bot says: "The purpose of VIAFbot is mass-inclusion of Authority control identifiers in articles on individual persons. Consensus about this was reached in Wikipedia:Authority control integration proposal/RFC". PrimeHunter (talk) 15:59, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the help. I read some of the discussion at the link provided above, and while much of it is beyond me, I did gather that the edit by the VIAFbot is part of a large Wikipedia project, and was unrelated to recent edits of the article on Edmund Mortimer. NinaGreen (talk) 22:08, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Graph view of past edits to a page

    A few months ago, I was clicking around Wikipedia, and discovered a way to view past edits to a page as a histogram (or maybe it was a line graph) that showed me how many edits were made per day. I tried to find this feature again recently and was unsuccessful. Can someone point me in the right direction?

    Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.195.39 (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you sure it didn't show page views per day? You can see page views per day as a histogram by clicking the "View history" tab and then "Page view statistics", for example leading to http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Wikipedia:Help_desk for this page. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:53, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Ambiguity Page MVP Needs To Be Edited And Am Not Certain How

    In the ambiguity page for MVP, it is stated Microsoft Most Valuable Professional under IT. While that is true, there are MVP (Most Valuable Professional) awards from other IT companies too, such as Telerik, CodeProject and CSharp. I am not sure how to divide or categorize the information. Should I simply remove "Microsoft" from there and add award from different IT companies? Kiran Kumar (talk) 16:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If you mean MVP (disambiguation), you merely edit it like any other page and add the links to those pages in the proper location, but the pages have to, of course, exist first and I don't think that they do. If, on the other hand, you're speaking of the redirect from the term "Most valuable professional" to Microsoft Most Valuable Professional, I'd say leaving that redirect intact until the pages about those other companies' programs have been established and proven to be Wikipedia-notable would be the right thing to do. If you want to dispute that position, however, you can raise it at redirects for discussion. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:48, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec) No, you should not. The page MVP (disambiguation) contains a link to Microsoft Most Valuable Professional, which is a Wikipedia article and (though it has faults) has enough references to establish that the topic is notable and therefore merits an article. In order to add other companies, or a generic Most Valuable Professional, you would need to establish that these other companies' designations, or the generic designation, are themselves notable, i.e. have been written about in independent reliable sources. If this is the case (I don't know whether it is or not), then these designations could have articles written about them, and in that case they could appear in the disambiguation page. --ColinFine (talk) 16:50, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Resolving issues in order to remove the banner atop an existing entry.

    Thomas Sanchez (writer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    At the request of the individual profiled in it, I am updating the entry of Thomas Sanchez (Writer). I have made what I believe are the required changes to confirm to Wikipedia’s standards for living people, and so forth, but after my “saves” the following banner content continues to appear at the top of the entry:

    This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. (March 2012) This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. (February 2009) This article may need to be wikified to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. (March 2012)

    I have made a good-faith effort to make this entry accurate and professional (I am a working journalist for a radio network in Los Angeles) and would like to remove the banner according to Wikipedia procedures, but have not yet found guidance in “Help” content regarding that process.

    Your advice on how to do this will be most helpful and sincerely appreciated.

    Thank you.

    Mhmllr---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhmllr (talk • contribs) 16:53, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The "cleanup" and "wikified" tags give links to the Manual of Style, so you need to read that. The "orphan" tag gives a "What links here" link, so you can see whether there are as many incoming links as you would expect for an article of significance. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:03, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I: would say that a greater issue that those in the banner are the overly-promotional tone of the article. The entire thing reads like a press release, not an encyclopedia article--Jac16888 Talk 17:05, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I did some clean up, but it still needs work. The article is still an orphan as it has only one qualifying incoming link, see WP:ORPHAN; the referencing needs to be sorted out because it currently uses two different formats and it is unclear what the second and third refs are actually referring to in the body of the article; it needs more references to support notability, see WP:BIO and WP:RS; it has too many external links, see WP:EL for guidance.--ukexpat (talk) 17:06, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The only link which was being used as a reference was pointing to a page in French. I've changed it to point to the English version, but it's the subject's own website so not an independent reliable source. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:22, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Possible Translation list based on high number of Interwiki links but none for in Language X

    What I'm looking for is an automated list of the pages with the most Interlanguage Links that do not include a particular language. For example, if I'm looking for pages to add to the English Language Wikipedia, finding out that a page on the French Wikipedia has 50 Interwiki Links but no Interwiki link to English would probably indicate that the page should be created in English. I realize that lack of exact one to one links may cause problems, but is there any way to get such a list?Naraht (talk) 17:23, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    How to remove boxes which refer to a page's "Orphan" state?

    After having created a number of links to and from a page called Henry Stephens (doctor), how do I now remove the boxes which describe the page as an "Orphan"

    Thanks: this was my first page.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moascarman (talk • contribs) 17:38, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Remove the template {{orphan}} from the top. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:46, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Fair use rationale

    There's a picture of the Prime Minister of Canada with a Canadian actor, would that lie within the range of fair use rationale? Thank you. Iowafromiowa (talk) 18:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you please post a link to the image? –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, here. Thank you. Iowafromiowa (talk) 18:29, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    No, fails our non-free use criteria, see WP:NFCC, criterion #1.--ukexpat (talk) 18:44, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Exchanging photo on my brother in laws page

    Hello, I am trying to put in the correct photo for Conte Candoli. Someone removed the original one and put their own photo up. It is not authorized by the family. I have a photo to exchange out, that I have rights to. I have never uploaded a photo myself and do need help to get the other one down. I have the photo ready to upload. I am in edit the page and find that it is all html code ( of course) and would appreciate any help with someone loading it.... Thank you I will keep checking the page for an answer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walt67 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    General advice on uploading images follows. You should note though that no one owns a Wikipedia article and the family have no rights to "authorize" the content of the article provided it complies with Wikipedia policy and guidelines. If you wish to make suggestions for improvement, please discuss on the article's talk page.
    • If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
    • If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.Template:Z40--ukexpat (talk) 19:48, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    What ukexpat says is right. However - it is possible that the photograph you have is more appropriate for Wikipedia than the gimmicky one now used in the article. I hope you can figure out how to upload your photograph, with a suitable licence that allows Wikipedia to use it; I know that this can be absurdly difficult for someone who has never done it before. Then you should announce on the article's talk page that the image is available, and let other, uninvolved, editors decide which one to use. Maproom (talk) 23:24, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I can't find any evidence that there was any other photo associated with the page before the current one was added two years ago in this diff. William P. Gottlieb's collection of jazz photos are a notable record of the era, are preserved in the Library of Congress collection, and are public domain. Another useful, properly licensed image for Wikipedia will be gratefully received, whether it replaces the existing one or not, but the user who added the latter to the article neither removed a previous image nor replaced it with "their own". - Karenjc 07:57, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    House Price Index

    Hello,

    I would like to know why you mention IAS360 as a source of house price index on page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_price_index This is a small private company that does not even answer the phone number listed on their web site. And you don't mention the Index provided my the Census Bureau, a government entity.

    This leads to the impression that there are personal motives for mentioning a small company such as IAS...

    Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:F470:24:3:1E:AD71:DE7:DCCA (talk) 22:09, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    We mention it, like everything else we mention in our four million articles, because an editor added it and no other editor has removed it, up to now. However, I have just been bold and removed the whole section, as I think all these external links are to specific indexes and are appropriate. (Of course, another editor may disagree with me and restore some or all of the links. Then we can have a discussion). --ColinFine (talk) 17:52, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    October 12

    The biography on Thomas Sneddon Jr. did not mention his religion. Catholic?

    I WISH THAT THE BIO ON THOMAS SNEDDON JR WOULD MENTION HIS RELIGION. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.27.122.120 (talk) 23:59, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The place to discuss article content is the article's talk page, in this case Talk:Thomas W. Sneddon, Jr.. (BTW, please don't WP:SHOUT.) —teb728 t c 04:01, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless he has chosen to make a public point of his religion, as reported in reliable sources, this information should not appear in the article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:02, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Safari Mac tgz search bug

    When one enters the search term "tgz" with or without quotes into the search box on Wikipedia while using Safari on Mac the tgz disambiguation page is downloaded to the user's machine as a tgz file. Not sure where browser specific bugs should go in the Wikipedia discussion hierarchy so I hope it's ok to post this here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.94.162.19 (talk) 02:54, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I am not seeing this issue on Safari 6.0.1 (current version) running on OS X 10.8.2 "Mountain Lion". Is there anything different about your configuration? Plugins or extensions maybe? –– Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I once had a problem with my browser downloading a page/file type that it was just supposed to display (it was neither Safari nor Mac). I believe it just stopped as mysteriously as it started. - Purplewowies (talk) 08:09, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have seen one or two similar reports about other browsers and endings. They couldn't follow a link like tgz but they could see the page by manually adding '?' to the url: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tgz? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:55, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    biographical article - date of death unknown

    In a biographical article, what is the format to be used if the date of death is unknown? (In particular Theophilus Thompson). Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:50, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Bubba. Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Dates of birth and death, "* When the date of death is completely unknown, it should be extrapolated from last known period of activity: "Robert Menli Lyon (1789 – after 1863) ..." Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, so the "after 1874" is OK in this case. The article says that he is in the 1880 and 1920 census, but see the talk page. He is not in the 1920, according to that website, but there is someone with that name in the 1880 census with the birth year off by 1 year. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 04:04, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Be very careful here. It is generally taken as a bad idea to use primary government documents to cite birth and death dates. Asserting that he died between 1880 and 1920 based on appearing in one census but not in the other, or that the person with the same name and a "close" birth year based solely on primary documents is NOT allowed per WP:PRIMARY, which says "Do not analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so." That's pretty unambiguous interpretation of material from a primary source. "If he's in census X and not in census Y means he died in the middle" is an interpretation unsupported by secondary sources, and would need a reliable secondary source to confirm. --Jayron32 05:03, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't change that. In fact, I think I put in the "after 1874" quite some time ago. I looked at the article again today, and the part about the 1880 and 1920 census is new to me. It is in the reference that is linked. However, the 1920 census does not seem to show him - in contrast to the reference that says that the 1920 census does show him. (I understand what you are saying about census records and references.) Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:15, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Template in a bulleted list

    Why are these two templates: Template:PhilPapers, and Template:InPho not participating nicely in bulleted lists? They are templates that produce external links, and are meant to be in a bulleted list, but show up as not bulleted.Greg Bard (talk) 07:14, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I seem to have fixed this by following the example of Template:SEP. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I just want to thank you and Anonymouse321‎ for your efforts! Greg Bard (talk) 08:38, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Open in edit mode

    Is there a simple way to select an article from a list, e.g. a list of misspellings, and open it in edit mode, without loading the article first and then selecting edit? - Arjayay (talk) 10:31, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes. If you enable Wikipedia:Navigation popups, whenever you hover over a link you will see a pop-up menu. One of the links on that menu is "Edit". -- John of Reading (talk) 10:34, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    That's just a bit fiddly (I have poor motor control), I was hoping for a keyboard shortcut, but thanks anyway - Arjayay (talk) 10:42, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser enables you to edit articles from categories. Please check it out if it addresses what you wanted to do. --Anbu121 (talk me) 10:46, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I've always avoided AWB, as it looks very fiddly, with small buttons and tabs. Perhaps I should try, and see how difficult it is for me to hit the right spot. Thanks, - Arjayay (talk) 11:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Instead of clicking the link, right-click it and select Copy Link Location (the words may be different in different browsers), then go to another browser tab or window, paste the URL into the address bar and append "?action=edit" to the end of it. --ColinFine (talk) 18:08, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Article's layout

    I don't understand the reason why many articles about islands always put Geography section after History section. Some examples are this and this. This even puts Geography after Tourism and Transport. I think Geography is very important, even more important than History. If those islands didn't exist, no history would be made. I'm improving a local article and really need your advice. Thank you. PID (talk) 11:12, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Someone at the Geography Wikiproject can probably answer that. Please post your question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography.--ukexpat (talk) 14:11, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Copyright

    I would like to use an image from Wikipedia File:Pig2.png on a poster to advertise a schools lecture. The licensing description is:

    "I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following license:
    This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license."

    Please could you confirm whether I can just use the image or whether I need to accredit the picture to somebody?

    Many thanks.

    Beverley

    Lane-statistics (talk) 11:18, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, you must provide a reasonably-accessible statement that the image is copyrighted under that license and the pseudonym, in this case, Laiyanlong, of its creator. If you modify the work, which this license allows you to do, then you must provide a statement something like, "Adapted from an original work by Laiyanlong." However you use it, you must copyright your use of it under this same license. (If you include it in a larger work which is copyrighted under a different license than this, you must restrict or expand that license insofar as it applies to this image to the same license as it now has.) The full text of the license can be found here. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 13:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    putting a website address on the link list

    by editing an article on the article about The Cube restaurant I would like to put the website address of park associati, the designer company of the building but it seems that it goes against wikipedia rules of not doing any publicity. That's not a problem for us but why there is the complete email address of Electrolux on the article? Is this not advertising? Thank you for let me know luciana— Preceding unsigned comment added by Parkassociati (talk • contribs) 13:07, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you indicate which article has the problem again, by naming it exactly or linking it by surrounding the name with brackets like [[this]]? If there is a problem with excess linking or inappropriate links, they should be removed, but the fact that another inappropriate link has not yet been removed is not an invitation to make the article even worse by adding more. If you can tell us exactly which article has the problem, we can help fix it. --Jayron32 13:25, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Please see Wikipedia:External links. In a nutshell, external links should only be included if they supplement the enecyclopedia by supplying the reader with further information about the topic. On the face of it, if an article is about a specific restaurant, the designer's website would be unlikely to do that, but it might.--Shantavira|feed me 15:03, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I am perfectly prepared to assume good faith here, but this does have the air of WP:LINKSPAM about it.--ukexpat (talk) 15:06, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    There is not "a complete email address of Electrolux" in the article The Cube (restaurant). What there is, is a link to the restaurant's official website, which is specifically permitted by WP:ELYES. This happens to be in the domain www.electrolux.com, so that string appears on the page. Any other commercial link (including one to Electrolux's primary website, for example) would be forbidden under WP:ELNO. --ColinFine (talk) 18:18, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    How can I edit a Reference on a Wikipedia article ?

    How can I edit a Reference on a Wikipedia article ? I have tried to add a refence to the article about TAKRL (The Amazing Kornyfone label)but I just dont get it correct edited.its reference NO 6. I have tried to follow the instructions on Wikipedia about "how to edit references" but I cant see what I do wrong.I would be very grateful for any help&advice as I want the artice to look correct...regards Flyspes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyspes (talk • contribs) 13:08, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks weird because you've entered it under the "References" section - it needs to actually be located in the text of the article, like the other references. However, as a blog, it's not a reliable source and so isn't appropriate anyway; I've removed it from the article. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:42, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Redirecting to a section

    Legal paper currently redirects to Paper size, which is good. However, it would be even better if it redirected to that article's "Other sizes" section, but I don't know how to make it go there. Can you change it? 2001:18E8:2:1020:749C:5B76:1D8E:3D22 (talk) 13:18, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    To redirect to sections, include #<sectionname> after the page name. For e.g, In this case, The code in redirect page 'Legal paper' should be #REDIRECT [[Paper size#Other sizes]] --Anbu121 (talk me) 13:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It occurs to me that the IP editor may not know how to edit a redirect page (it took me a while to figure out when I first started editing) - I've already changed the redirect, but should you come across such a situation in future: when you access a page via a redirect, you'll see a small note under the article title saying "Redirected from other page". Clicking the link there will take you straight to the redirect page itself, which you can then edit just like any other page. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:36, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bitwise_NOT&redirect=no or http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Double_induction&redirect=no for examples.
    Additionally note that such redirection will work provided the target header is not changed. To avoid redirection (or link) break, add a note just below the target header. It should be a HTML comment warning other editors. e.g.
          <!-- please do not change, linked from page [[xxx]] and from redirect [[yyy]] -->

    CiaPan (talk) 13:51, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the help! It turns out that I wasn't paying attention and asked for the wrong section; "Loose sizes" makes more sense, so I've edited the redirect and made it go to "Loose sizes", and I've added the HTML comment warning too. 2001:18E8:2:1020:749C:5B76:1D8E:3D22 (talk) 13:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    size of the type on the page

    My PC uses windows 7 home, whenever I wnat to see an article it appears in very small print. How can I enlarge the print font to a bigger size?¬¬¬¬ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.15.251.10 (talk) 15:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    This is not determined by Wikipedia, but by the settings in your Internet browser. If you need help with that, please ask here. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:38, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    To reset your browser zoom level, try CTRL+0.--ukexpat (talk) 16:01, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Plot image not showing up

    What is wrong with the image in Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer conjecture#History? I don't see the image when viewing the page in read mode. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:22, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I think the problem is with the image itself, on Wikimedia Commons. It is over 100,000 lines of SVG, and even after I have downloaded it, it takes my browser quite a while to render it. So my guess is that the Wikipedia machinery which presents it in the article at the size specified, is getting stuck.
    One possibility would be to download the SVG, get it rendered on your local system, take a screenshot of it, save it as a PNG, and upload to PNG to commons (with a different name). Maproom (talk) 16:12, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Commons already has a PNG version – I switched the article to that version of the image. PleaseStand (talk) 19:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    That SVG image causes problem with the rendered in other sizes links, if you click one, it gives an error message.Naraht (talk) 19:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Invalid <ref> tag; invalid names

    Hi, getting this msg "Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; invalid names, e.g. too many; see the help page" The help page does not explain my problem.

    The wiki mark up that produces this error is:

    <ref name=Hasan 2012>{{cite journal|last=Hasan|first=HM|coauthors=Hasan, HM|title=Stapled transanal rectal resection for the surgical treatment of obstructed defecation syndrome associated with rectocele and rectal intussusception.|journal=ISRN surgery|date=2012|volume=2012|pages=652345|pmid=22577584}}</ref>

    How to stop this error appearing? I can't see any problem with the ref... TY in advance. tepi (talk) 19:28, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Education Program

    Hi guys. We're considering the activation of "Education program" extension on it.wiki, but we'd like to have a sneak peak into it before asking around for consensus. I understand the extension is active on en.wiki but I can't find in my interface or in the preferences any of the features described. Do I have to activate it somehow? Does it work properly or is it still unstable? Thanks in advance. Note: I may forget to keep an eye on this thread, so feel free to write me an e-mail, should I ignore your answers for more than two days :P --Dry Martini (talk) 19:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Uh, wait: I don't have the autoconfirmed flag on this project, so that may be the reason why I don't see any of features. Hmm. I'll just make two edits and see :) --Dry Martini (talk) 19:38, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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