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I respect what you applied on the Nonito Donaire article. It's okay but let me tell you something. When it comes to indicating the height of people, especially boxers, I wouldn't consider using the height template. Why is that? True, it mentions units for both English and Metric. But the thing I seem to find wrong is that the Metric part is in meters. Judging by what is commonly seen in media, I noticed that a person's height in Metric is mostly measured in centimeters. This is most definitely the norm and what probably should be followed. FoxLad (talk) 00:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jayson Asher

Deprodded by creator. I sent it to afd. Dlohcierekim 01:14, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of oral health and dental topics

The guideline WP:CLS covers the list vs. category thing.

The Transhumanist 05:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

M Continuum

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AfD nomination of Average surface temperature

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Nuclear weapon design

Hi GregorB

Regarding your recent style edits to this article, I have consistently maintained an unconventional practice of bolding every decimal point because on my screen decimal points seem too small to be easily seen. I don't want the reader to mistake 2.4 for 24, say. If this is not permitted, than all the decimals in the article should be unbolded. Likewise with the math format of the three formulas I want to emphasize. You changed one of them. I like the bold font of the math format for all three of them, but all three should have the same format, whatever that is. Would it be ok to restore my consistent formatting? Thanks. HowardMorland (talk) 07:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Hans Thomsen

If you could revisit Hans Thomsen, I think you'll find it should make more sense now. The first version was thrown together in a hurry just because I needed to break the (dubious) redirect. Mangoe (talk) 18:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Chris Britt

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That earlier version is better in NPOV terms, but a bit lacking in detail. Deb (talk) 21:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
That explains a lot! Deb (talk) 22:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


I've been looking through your contributions and realised you don't have rollback. Would you like me to add it to your account? Rudget 14:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. If you ever need help, you know where I am. Rudget 19:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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Lucky (Jackie Collins novel)

Regarding this page move: I've been corrected on this issue myself, so I know that the book-naming conventions specify that book titles should be disambiguated by the author's surname only. The relevant guideline is Wikipedia:NC-BK#Standard_disambiguation. --ShelfSkewed Talk 14:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

The Tic Code

Dear GregorB,
since you once edited, The Tic Code.
I was wondering if you could answer my question on the discussion page underneath dates.
Thanx! AnnieTigerChucky (talk) 21:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

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RE: The Tic Code

Dear GregorB, I added a comment to The Tic Code talk page.
Thanx again! AnnieTigerChucky (talk) 14:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Jewish chess players

Hi! I have found Vladimir Vuković in with the following notes: Encyclopedia Judaica, Vol. 5 (Keter, Jerusalem, 1972, pp. 401-410) and The Jewish Lists, by Martin H. Greenberg (Schocken Books, New York, 1979, pp. 210-214). -- Shalom, Mibelz 13:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

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Andrija Fuderer

Hi! Today, I have created two articles on Mladen Šubarić and Andrija Fuderer. Do you know something about Fuderer's ethnic background (Serbian, Croatian, Hungarian, German, or Jewish)? He was born in Subotica, and I have found his name in -- Best wishes, Mibelz (talk) 18:52, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your answer. I have just improved the page. By the way, I think that Andrija Fuderer as well as Max Romih might have been Jewish. -- Shalom, Mibelz 9:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Zoey Beckner

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Imena tenisera

Hvala na podršci. Ti korisnici su na mala vrata uveli takozvano pravilo da se uklanjaju naša slova. Hajde da oragnizujemo glasanje po kom bi se to vratilo na svoje mesto, kao što je to slučaj sa svim ostalim ljudima na ovoj enciklopediji. Nisam vičan glasanjima na engleskoj Vikipediji, pa bih te zamolio da vidiš kako bi se to najbolje izvelo. Naravno, bilo bi dobro da ljudi sa hr. Vikipedije dođu ovde i glasaju. --Pockey (talk) 13:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: diacritics

I certainly will inform you if I should notice a discussion taking place somewhere. As things are at the moment, I expect that user:Ev (also supportive of these measures) will send me a note informing me of the debate, which I will gladly pass onto you. Indeed, if the matter should come to a vote then it will be in the interests of all three of us to support the diacritic usage. Obviously, you and I do not need to convince each other of the positive reasons for their appearance as that would be "preaching to the converted." Thanks for the note of encouragement, and remember that I too often roam the site like a headless chicken in search of inspiration, and not knowing where to go one minute to the next. So if you stumble across this debate before I do, or any other of similar nature, please drop a line on my talk page. Many thanks. Evlekis (talk) 20:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

One more quick note, I noticed your recent contributions on some Croatian football players, adding (now Croatia) to the country. That too is something which I wholly support. With me, it has always been the other way, I've always favoured the inclusion of the country of birth at the time of birth; but I definitely support the mention of the present-day land. The only concern with "(now Croatia)" regarding these active footballers is that their place of birth was Croatia then aswell, not the Republic of of course, because that was created in 1991, but the Socialist Republic of certainly. So one positive possibility is to say (eg. born March 19, 1984 in Sarajevo, SR Bosnia and Herzegovina, Yugoslavia); likewise, you could make the present republic more focal (born August 3, 1974 in Sinj, Croatia {formerly Yugoslavia}). You can indeed keep them as they are, it won't hurt, but it does make them look slightly as if Croatia was not in existence when it fact it was. Look back to the past century, the only time Croatia - as with the other republics - did not formally exist was between 1929 (when the constitution banished all political parties and created new administrative units) and 1939 when a Croatian banovina was reinstated. So if we are discussing anyone born, for instance, in 1933: we could say (born in Skoplje <to reflect name at the time; Kingdom of Yugoslavia {now Macedonia}) with some accuracy. But this is just my advice, nothing official; I was only thinking along your line of interest in wishing to see Croatia better highlighted. Evlekis (talk) 20:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
They (the Croatian editors) still form a necessary majority sometimes, but so do Serbs elsewhere. Across the field, you get similar scenarios involving the Middle East, Africa, South America, the Pacific Islands, and anywhere else there has been some form of conflict these past years: fresh in everyone's mind. The best thing is for all of us to keep away from it, but we can't resist the temptation to "follow the force of gravity" at times, such as when our issues make the Main Page on Wikipedia. About your suggestion - Croatian businessman etc. - I think that it is absolutely fine and would support it. After all, encyclopaedias are all about delivering information in the form of grammatical and intelligible text. If something takes a little longer to explain, then no problem, we go ahead and do it! As long as the outside reader is fully in the picture, you can use an entire paragraph to explain a circumstance.

Evlekis (talk) 08:51, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


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Thanks for the new information, I shall see what is going on and then make a contribution. About the listing of Croatia & Yugoslavia, I guess you are right that there are many ways to do this and they all meet with some disapproval, if not by one person then another. No we cannot please everyone. It is impossible isn't it? Bruno represented Yugoslavia and he is a Croat. That was the nature of Yugoslavia, six primary nations and a multitude of smaller groups; not the same as Italy where-by you're seen to be Italian if you are from Piedmont and if you are from Sicily. Their most remote population is perhaps the Sardinian people who largely identify as Sardinian. Big problem. Many people actually struggle to grasp the difference between nationality (ethnicity) and nationality (relationship to state). So how about stating that Bruno is a Croatian former athlete who represented (past tense) Yugoslavia when Croatia formed a part of it. The 1991 aspect is very tricky. For one, we don't know in which month he retired, and for another, when do we begin to regard Croatia as independent? My birthday (June 25)? Three months later following an agreement with Western Europe? Or early 1992 when it entered the UN and was formally recognised by the "bulk" of governments? Football is a bit easier as Croatia formed its national side in 1990: it existed one way or another, even if it did not immediately join FIFA and UEFA. I suggest we try to experiment with Bruno Orešar until we can present it in a way that it explains evertyhting, and you ofcourse are satisfied with it. As for the very listing of "Yugoslavia", yes it pains me to see people constantly removing it and I am grateful that many non-local Wikipedians are assertive in restoring the deleted information. We call it historical accuracy. What they need to realise is that this applies to the world over, be it defunct lands such as the USSR or countries whose status has changed, such as the one time Kingdoms of Albania or Italy. For most opponents of this policy, the reasons are often personal: read the edit summary and you find comments such as "country doesn't exist any more", or "don't insult my man by adding that shit country to it." You see Gregor, history is history and you and I can no more change it than we can predict the future. Our dissidents here will have to grow up. I see no reason to be bitter: Croatia prospered very well in the 1960's and the "dark years" involved the break-up itself and the aftermath. Quite literally, the "troubles" as people know them were for the 1991-1995 period. It marred early independence; now if a full scale conflict occured at a different time, such as 1976-1981 (like Zimbabwe's Gukarahunda, 1982-87), with Croatia still destined to split in 1991, then fair enough, people are justified in their reasons for dislike, but even then, it is silly to disclude the mention of "Yugoslavia". But then again, one thing I have noticed over the past two or three years is that no reputable Wikipedian has advocated the disclusion of Yugosolavia, it is normally the members of the "Anonymity Liberation Army" (IP numbers) who play this game, normally without ever adding comments. Even some of the Croatian, Bosnian & Macedonian heavyweights tend to leave that side of things alone. There have been a few Albanians who have objected to the inclusions of Cyrillic spellings on name of Kosovans born before independence, and those who altogether reject the mention of Yugoslavia. In most cases, they have been persuaded to accept the status quo. But going back to those heavyweights, I only wish that they could present their cases more objectively rather than give the articles one-sided angles: this is where conflict is the subject. I hate having to remove "POV" usages and it worries me that some smart swine will revert it back to say "Group A was innocent, never did anything wrong, woke up on the wrong side of bed one morning, and was subsequently slaughtered by Group B", or similar scenarios. I'm curious also to know just how many editors out there know that I am 100% non-allined to any party. I hope you believe that my edits are not aimed at promoting a specific view!! :) Evlekis (talk) 18:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Near Duplicate Algorithms

The page Near Duplicate Algorithms is, I think, a pretty clear copyright violation. I've given the link on the talk page for that article. I'm not a very experienced editor so I don't want to delete the page myself. Could you do it? best, Sam nead (talk) 16:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Lion-Man Dating

You're right, I double-checked the museum and it was a mis-understanding of whoever originally categorized Lion Man. It was in fact 32,000 years old, which would put him at approximately 30,000 BC. I have updated the links accordingly. Thanks. Keithh (talk) 22:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the lead, I see you just left a comment on the diacritics page. Mine (which I started writing before you posted yours) has just been saved. So obviously, it is not a "response" to you (see we are agreed) but an addition. Thanks. Evlekis (talk) 13:31, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Diacritics continued

This is getting tricky. I see it as having to go down to a vote for the tennis and the other places. We don't seem to be able to convince the anti-diacritic mob of the reasons to keep them, and I doubt they will change your position any more than mine. All I seem to read is this pathetic thesis that "it is common not to use diacritics", yet so far, nobody has proven that the plain form (without diacritics) really is standard English. It is only the standard of certain media. I don't think the fight is lost, there are as yet other corners which we havn't explored: in the fullness of time, I will introduce them into the debates. First of all, the correctness of any language has a number of approaches. Most scholars categorise these as being one of prescriptivism, where-by there is one correct form as is "prescribed" by intellects, and its opposite descriptivism, where-by its adherents "describe" usage but are viewed as subversive by the prescriptive party, as their attitude is "anything goes". In reality, people are drawn into some tug-of-war between these schools of thought even though one is 100% incompatible with the other. These discrepancies are further hampered by the fact that English, unlike French, does not have an academy or federation which imposes "correct" language, not that it would prevent change had it existed. The diacritic debate initially appears as though it needs to consult an authority. That "authority" is not there for anyone, and so when it comes to linguistic elements which are more fixed than others (such as spellings), one consults the dictionary. English, as you know, contains words, names and even phrases from hundreds of languages, and all in everyday use. As it happens, the nation's favourites (in the UK), Oxford, Longmans, Collins and Chambers all give both variations of a word or name, with and without the diacritics. The primary spot is with the diacritics, the dictionaries are littered with these foreign marks and the introductions even explain what they are, their name and how they function, and all for English. Modern dictionaries are themselves "articles of confusion", for although they insist that certain things are "incorrect", they move with the times and allow other aspects to be "flexible among variations". That's another story though. The fact is that this will prove conclusively that diacritics are very much a part of English, and may even set a precendent for Brittanica and National Geograhic as you have mentioned. Of course, one can argue the opposite and cite that English is a "free" language with no dictates (hence the discriptive approach), but that too still permits diacritics. So, foreign names enter the language; some writers use the name as in the local written language; no attempt is made elsewhere by anyone to transcribe the name so as to Anglicise it; the remaining media continue to use the names, without the diacritics. Were the diacritics removed? Or did the editor simply type /s/ (situated between /a/ and /d/ on his keyboard as opposed to first selecting HR on the language menu, followed by hitting a key on the far right of the keyboard) instead of /š/? If a writer is not using his editing influence to introduce a new spelling form which is Anglo-friendly, it is plain that he doesn't honestly care. Do we, with better knowledge, look to these people for inspiration on "how to stylise names in English"? It is crazy. Evlekis (talk) 12:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hang fire Gregor, don't give in. They havn't heard the last of me yet. Evlekis (talk) 20:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Scott Vickaryous

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Broad claim on Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo wasn't from 2006

That broad claim you removed was recently added by Cryptonsage and not added in 2006. Good thing you caught it though. :) --Edward Sandstig (talk) 08:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Muphry's law

Thanks for the formatting improvement - I had a feeling there would be some way to make it look smarter, and I'll now know for another time! Hope you found the article interesting: I fell over it randomly while stubsorting and got interested. PamD (talk) 17:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Baader-Meinhof phenomenon

I just noticed that your comment on PamD's talk page about Baader-Meinhof phenomenon comes directly below me remarking on another instance of the phenomenon - both about Muphry's Law. Since I didn't know or had forgotten then name of the phenomenon, it seems we have a case of second-order Baader-Meinhof! Olaf Davis | Talk 17:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Rock music WikiProject

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Oh sorry Gregor. I stumbled across the article some time back and only wanted to put his birth details closer to his name. If his place of birth cannot be acertained, then by all means revert it to where he is a resident, or based. I took a liberty there with no real knowledge. Evlekis (talk) 07:54, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Time between edits

Thank you for updating it! A few times I had started to do that myself but never quite finished... Interesting... up to 49 days now, still a ton of edits but it seems to have slowed a bit, as you say. Thanks again for updating it! κaτaʟavenoTC 03:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Modern Firearms?

I believe that category is too vaguely defined and would involve too many unrelated designs. I don't think it serves any purpose. Koalorka (talk) 16:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Zagreb task force

If you're interested in being a member of the Zagreb task force of WikiProject Croatia, [[please support it :-) Admiral Norton (talk) 21:26, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Admiral Norton (talk) 21:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

A proposal for the project page is available at User:Admiral Norton/Zagreb. You can add your name in the participants list. Admiral Norton (talk) 21:58, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The task force has been launched! --Admiral Norton (talk) 21:07, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Moving shouting match

I understand that the article is more suitable for a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia. But I expected it to just start that way and then be expanded with more information. -- IRP (talk) 01:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Please check User_talk:IRP#Re:_Moving_shouting_match —Preceding unsigned comment added by IRP (talkcontribs) 23:21, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Date autoformatting

Thanks for your comments. The reason I changed the format to day/month is because that is the international format, and I thought the Windows series of articles to have an international flavour rather than American. US-centric articles retain their month/day format, of course. If I have got this wrong, I apologise. -TonyW (talk) 19:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I understand the criteria you laid out in your reply, and have been trying to follow that format. It would seem, therefore, the Windows articles may come under the mdy format because of their ties to Microsoft, which is US based. I never thought of it like that as I was looking at the articles as a whole, and since Windows is used internationally, I thought they should be in the dmy format. -TonyW (talk) 19:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


Hey! I am sorry i just edited the wiki page on Normal Forms [[Database normalization] adding just a minor reference! It looks kind messy now xp. If you could take a look. ;) thanks... xp —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fathergod (talkcontribs) 18:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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"dirty dozen" as you can see has numerous meanings. Anything you have to say about "your" dirty dozen is probably best added to Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants which is quite a short article. If you really feel a separate article is needed, then try dirty dozen (Stockholm Convention) as a title. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 16:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. Just noticed that you did not start it. Now moved to dirty dozen (Stockholm Convention). — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 16:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Heya, I've noticed you've been contributing to articles similar to mine, i.e. related to activist/anarchist people. My article on Bruno Masse is threatened of deletion, could you please vote to keep it? You can vote [| here]. In solidarity! Lkeryl (talk) 18:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


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I reversed your change to the 1 1/16 fraction at Princess Elizabeth Stakes (Canada). That format could be a great help but you need to check this out as it comes up as a glaring font several times larger than that used by Wikipedia. Thanx. Handicapper (talk) 13:14, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Windows Explorer Handicapper (talk) 14:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC). My Explorer is the latest version and as I said, the fraction is HUGE. Handicapper (talk) 13:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Richter Scale

I think the table with corresponding joules is incorrect —Preceding unsigned comment added byUTS cob (talkcontribs) 03:55, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Lene Schneider-Kainer

The "in use" tag is designed to reduce editing conflicts. Please respect it. ciao Rotational (talk) 17:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Secure Digital

I note you deleted my reference to ebay. Can you clarify why? A list of the active listings of flash memory, showing that SD has approximately 10 times the listings of any other technology seems to agree with my assertion that SD has become the dominant form of flash media. Thanks. --Speedevil (talk) 01:27, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Machine guns by caliber

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Category:Machine guns by caliber, along with its sub-categories which you appear to have created, have been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Cgingold (talk) 13:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)