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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors with "In the news"

For Typhoon Gaemi, more people died in China than in Taiwan, as per Typhoon Gaemi#Impact and aftermath. (edited to add: or by Damage, more $ was spent in Taiwan than the Philippines.) Perhaps it would be better to write "... leaves more than 70 people dead in the Philippines, China, Taiwan, and Cambodia" instead? Also, a serial comma makes the main page more concise and is worthy of consideration. Great thanks! Josethewikier (talk) 05:18, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done – Schwede66 06:04, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

For the Ismail Haniyeh, calling him the Hamas leader is a bit reductive, he was head of the political bureau. It would have been like calling Gerry Adams the head of the IRA. Without getting too wordy, I think it should be rephrased to Hamas political bureau chief Ismail Haniyeh (pictured) is assassinated in Tehran, Iran. nableezy - 16:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

He was a "Hamas leader". It does not say he was "The leader of Hamas", implying that he was the #1 of the organization, just a "Hamas leader". AFP leads its article "The killing of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in an air strike in Tehran Wednesday ..." So no error. I would say that any changes should go through the normal ITN processes. Wehwalt (talk) 16:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

• NYT: Hamas and Iranian state media on Wednesday blamed Israel for the death of Mr. Haniyeh, the militant group’s political leader
• BBC: Hamas says its political leader Ismail Haniyeh has been killed in an Israeli attack in the Iranian capital. ... He was elected head of Hamas's political bureau in 2017.
• AP: Haniyeh headed the group’s political bureau until his death
• CNN: Hamas said its political leader Ismail Haniyeh has been killed in an overnight strike in the Iranian capital Tehran
• Washington Post: Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas’s top leader in exile who landed on Israel’s hit list after the militant group staged its surprise Oct. 7 attacks, was killed in a strike in the Iranian capital on July 31. He was 62. ... Mr. Haniyeh, head of the group’s political bureau,

Yes, it does not say "the leader of Hamas", but the phrasing implies there is one Hamas leader and that is, as I said, reductive. The normal ITN process for modifying a blurb after its been posted is WP:ERRORS as far as I am aware. nableezy - 17:30, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

"ABC, "the Hamas leader"

"NY times "top Hamas leader" "one of the most senior Hamas leaders". But whatever. Either way, it all amounts to the same thing.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

Surely, Jean Jaurès (d. 1914) should link to Jean Jaurès not, as it currently does Assassination of Jean Jaurès Jontel (talk) 05:08, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Pulled They're generally for bios, but his bio lacks sufficient sourcing too. Courtesy ping to PFHLai, who added the item (wasnt a previous candidate).[1] —Bagumba (talk) 17:23, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(August 2)

Monday's FL

(August 5)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

Notice to administrators: When fixing POTD errors, please update the corresponding regular version (i.e. without "protected" in the page title) in addition to the Main Page version linked below.

General discussion

Iran

Why is the election in Iran not news? Rick Norwood (talk) 12:06, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

It has been, most days since the election. I'd guess it's because not much is happening today - the BBC are reporting that there are no protests today. Check Portal:Current events for events in Iran on recent days. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 12:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy now? :D --candle•wicke 14:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops, just seen this! I'm guessing that as soon as I opened my mouth, there were protests. Darnit! If I had an embassy in Tehran, I'd be having diplomats expelled right now... Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:45, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

No, I meant by the time I noticed this the tit-for-tat exchange of diplomatic expulsion was at the top of ITN. :D And if I had an embassy I would expel and restore diplomats for fun every day... keeps them on their toes... ;) --candle•wicke 19:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Iran is very confused country. In Iran, they always live in danger and war. Therefore Irans people think that they don't need a news. Because, they know well about their situation. Also, they don't like be know aobut the other country's people 59.3.240.33 (talk) 14:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC) jANG jI hYEON

Jackson dead?

Sky News, BBC, TZM and CNN are all reporting that Michael Jackson has died, I advise the editing admins for the main page, not to 'jump the gun', per se, he has been known for his publicity stunts. Worth watching though. Murgon (talk) 21:55, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Most aren't reporting it as "official" yet, but I agree that, at this point, we should take reports with a pinch of salt. Not sure if it is worth the main page anyways, but still... J Milburn (talk) 22:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Just heard on the radio, the LA Times are saying he is in a coma, I think the 'dust fallout' is going to make reporting this on the mainpage quite hard, leave it for a few hours. Murgon (talk) 22:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

BBC says LA Times and CBS are reporting him dead but CNN isn't so it is very unclear at this time. --candle•wicke 22:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It's a messed up situation. Murgon (talk) 22:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

NBC mirrors the LA Times report. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 22:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

CNN reports he's dead too. http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/25/michael.jackson/index.html ESTEMSHORN^talk_Sign 22:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

IIRC, deaths from natural causes don't really go on the main page. There was a fight over it when Sir Edmund Hillary died. ZeaLitY [ DREAM - REFLECT ] 22:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Sir Edmund Hillary was nothing compared with the King of Pop, the worldwide popularity and sudden, shocking death of Micheal Jackson should be reason enough to appear on the main page. User talk:Pho3nix-

Could you produce a link to the policy page where that is said please? I have never read it myself. Murgon (talk) 22:54, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think this should be on the main page, even though he is an extremely famous person, if we put this on the main page then why shouldn't we put Ed McMahon(or however you spell it), Farrah Fawcett and other notable deaths recently? Blah42b10 (talk) 23:03, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

ITN is now far more open than it was. This could hit the main page; personally, I have no opinion. Note, also, that Jackson's death was not expected- Hillary's death was less of a surprise. This is an argument in favour of including it. J Milburn (talk) 23:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

There is currently a news story about Lucas Glover winning a golf tournament. Does anyone seriously consider that to be more important or notable than one of the most famous stars in the world suddenly dying at an early age? Why the hell wouldn't this be considered notable enough for the front page? Zincomog (talk) 23:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It's now official: "A Los Angeles city official confirmed that Michael Jackson is dead. The official said he died away at 1:07 p.m. Pacific time."[2] Please update. -- Taku (talk) 23:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Not until that comes from a reputable news source should that be considered official. Murgon (talk) 23:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

LA Times, NYTimes, BBC, NBC, Fox News, all confirm his death. I don't think this should be a "reported to have" anymore. Also, maybe we should put a picture up on main page? Mononomic (talk) 23:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe File:Michael Jackson 1984.jpg for the photo? Certainly more interesting than European flags... Mononomic (talk) 23:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely. J Milburn (talk) 23:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Could we make the picture just a little bit bigger (maybe 80-100px wide)? Mononomic (talk) 23:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, see Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates#ITN candidates for June 25 Mononomic (talk) 00:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

An example of indescribable irony if you didn't see it or had forgotten. --candle•wicke 00:31, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

That's not irony, that's an interesting coincidence. "Irony" is one of the most often misused words on the Internet, and you provided an excellent example of how it is misused. Danthemankhan 18:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it standard policy only to announce the deaths of heads of state on the main page?--24.218.164.106 (talk) 01:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

He's the King of Pop, isn't he? ;-) Teemu08 (talk) 02:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

User:Wadester16/Smile That made me laugh. wadester16 02:23, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Without reading the previous discussions, I assume there was consensus that he follows this criterion: "The deceased was a very important figure in their field of expertise, and was recognised as such." Zzyzx11 (talk) 14:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually I think it broke the record for support at ITN previously possibly broken by an old flute about an hour earlier (that one still hasn't been updated or posted because the internet came down around me and possibly everyone else and ITN was invaded by those mass edit conflict causing types that turn up and are never seen again). The media seems to be verifying Michael Jackson as the cause of this crash - which would indicate that something very unusual happened across several sites, including this one. --candle•wicke 15:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Video which I thought was a good summary of the international reaction. "BBC reporters on global Jackson reaction". --candle•wicke 15:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

And another showing various television coverage - "TV stations report Jackson's death". --candle•wicke 16:14, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Any word on when the Heir apparent of the King of Pop, Fresh Prince will take the throne? Vdrj2 (talk) 17:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Comment I don't see any evidence for breaking any records. In fact, I'm pretty sure we've had way more then 6 before particularly before ITN became so dead. Indeed, I suspect in the old days admins would easily be yelled at if they added controversial or unclear items with only 2-3 supports. Nil Einne (talk) 10:07, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Well that was then and this is now. That's why I said "previously possibly broken" and linked to a comment by someone else. But for two in a matter of hours to get that much support is unusual for 2009 at any rate. And admins getting "yelled at" for adding items? Where have you been? That's still going on... --candle•wicke 15:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

After the mourning period.... but before the afternoon period!!!!Willski72 (talk) 22:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

After the sun rises. Or should that before the moon walks? --candle•wicke 03:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for moving it off the front page. Now we can get on with other things. Peter Greenwell (talk) 11:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

It wasn't moved from the main page, it was told to Beat It ;-) TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 11:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Surely you can't be serious! Peter Greenwell (talk) 11:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh no! What have i unleashed!Willski72 (talk) 13:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Whatever it is, it's BAD! BAD! REALLY REALLY BAD! Ahem, sorry. --candle•wicke 14:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

You know i thought better of you Candlewicke, outbursts such as that are not wanted on this encyclopedia! Next someone will come up and start shouting about thrilled zombies and criminals that are getting soft (or some such nonsense!)Willski72 (talk) 17:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Careful now, this could get a bit dangerous. --candle•wicke 18:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The problem with you lot is that you just "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough". There, i have done one, are you satisfied now!Willski72 (talk) 18:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

You can't win. --candle•wicke 18:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Jeez, this post is a bit of a thriller wasn't it? I mean, I know it's just human nature that we have to cry over his death. He was gone too soon but just be happy. We've just got to leave him alone, and We're almost there. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 19:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Right thats it! I asked nicely, i tried to appease you! I tell you know that you are responsible for what i have been driven to! Remember that as they put me 6 feet under! (Sound of rattling followed by a 'click' 'click' 'click', a gulp, a loud bang and a soft thud.....)Willski72 (talk) 19:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

No! Just give it one more chance! :D weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Leave Me Alone. --candle•wicke 23:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Im dead and i cant get away! Oh look i've still got that gun (loud bang followed by a soft thud).Willski72 (talk) 16:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Link on Jackson's death

I think the link "Michael Jackson" in the Michael Jackson's snippet (spelling?) in the "news" section should lead to the "Death" section of the article, not just the "Michael Jackson" article. Or is there a reason it doesn't?G man yo (talk) 13:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if it's any kind of policy, but section links are generally avoided from the Main Page - they can disorient new readers by starting them halfway down a page, and removes control from them. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 15:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Now that the article is made, maybe link it to Death of Michael Jackson? Dkl1456 (talk) 02:46, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that that article should not exist. But, although it can be disorienting, many of the other links in the news section lead directly to something explaining the news event, and not just the person in the news event, and I am of the opinion that this link should follow suit. But fair enough, if nobody wants to change it, then I'm cool with that. G man yo (talk) 04:08, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the death article should exist either, and am seriously considering nominating it for deletion. It is nothing but fluff and media speculation.--Susan118 ^talk 02:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Just noticed this actually is already linked on the main page. Very disappointing that the main page would link to an article with so little substance. --Susan118 ^talk 02:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC) It should be Pop star Michael Jackson (pictured) dies at the age of 50, after suffering cardiac arrest.. This is In The News after all, and not Featured Article of the day. MickMacNee (talk) 13:15, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I concur that the Death of Michael Jackson page should be linked there. --Evildevil (talk) 18:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I too prefer this version Modest Genius ^talk 18:51, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree with this too. Pyrrhus16 20:51, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I've just removed the two huge sections of junk above, maybe now an admin might notice this section. MickMacNee (talk) 19:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is on the Main Page talk and ANI and not one reply for hours. MickMacNee (talk) 23:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Try on the proper place, i.e. Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors perhaps? 10:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

It wasn't an error, oh mysterious one. MickMacNee (talk) 22:30, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Linking to the wrong article or with the wrong word, is indeed an error. If you still don't agree, the simple fact is basically, any change to an existing item is considered an error (this makes sense since if there is an imperfection on the most visible page on wikipedia which is supposed to highlight our content, that seems like an error to me) and belongs in the error section whether it is far more likely to be noticed and dealt with by admins. (Admins particularly those familiar with the rules associated with the main page and therefore willing to make changes do not generally monitor Talk:Main Page because issues that require admin attention rarely come up here instead there tends to be just a bunch of mostly OT stuff like help I'm being stalked even though there's no evidence etc as there are more appropriate sections for them to be dealt with. In particular, raising an issue here which requires timely admin action is pretty much pointless. If you read the very big header, it also makes this clear. "This page is for discussing improvements to the entire Main Page only. This is not a place to ask general questions or submit content." and "Main Page Errors: To report a problem about the current content on the Main Page." etc Nil Einne (talk) 06:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

In response to above, and the post on my talk page [3], it was absolutely not an error, anybody with the most basic understanding can see that, it was a simple adjustment of the wording, which was already correct. And the discussions I removed were absolutely not relevant to this page, so were perfectly removeable as off topic nonsense filling up the page, per WP:TALK. It did not belong here, it should not have been prolonged, and it most certainly has no business being in the page's archive. And admins should be watching this talk page regularly, especially as you point out, people post here when they should be in another venue, regularly. If there are non-standard practices occuring on this page, or basic issues arising from poorly worded instructions, or de-facto bad standards such as ignoring WP:TALK being practiced by the regulars here, none of that is a problem for me to change, or work around. MickMacNee (talk) 10:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Punctuation error in Trans March hook

Resolved

 – Fixed by Jarry1250. Shubinator (talk) 17:48, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

There should be no comma after the word "March" in the hook currently in queue 1. Otto4711 (talk) 17:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Reposted to WP:ERRORS. 68.76.156.73 (talk) 17:26, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Events in Honduras

Until the nature of what's happening in Honduras is clear, I don't think it should be labeled a "coup d'état" as is done on the main page. All actions undertaken by the military, the Supreme Court and Congress appear justified in the Hondruan Constitution, especially as Zelaya was not respecting the Court's decisions declaring the referendum illegal. Zelaya was abusing his power, and any president doing so loses his or her status as president, and may be arrested.

[[190.77.117.50 (talk) 01:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)]]

People from there are sending in messages to television and saying this is not a coup. Why is Wikipedia calling it a coup and being one sided? The people are saying he acted like a dictator. Why is it called a cup d'etat?

Germananic Flute

I have added information on the Hohle Fels page about the bird flute found. I don't think there should be an individual page created just for the flute, atleast not as of yet. So can we please get a link to the page saying something like "Archeologists confirm the discovery of a 35,000-year-old flute in Hohle Fels cave, the oldest confirmed musical instrument, in Germany.", and link Hohle Fels? We really should have a link to an article where people can find out more information on the subject being discussed.JanderVK (talk) 02:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

You cannot change the link now after all this time. what does it matter anyway? they can still find it caus flute is linked too. 03:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Agree there should be a link with context. But there's an early link to Hohle Fels on the Flute article, however, which I believe provides readers access to the information. Sure the link can be changed, even after all this time; however, it doesn't appear to be essential. --Mysidia (talk) 03:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure I see the logic on having to scan through the flute article just to find information on this particular flute. Would you scan through the literature article to find information on William Blake's writings, no you wouldn't, you would search William Blake. Yes, it is also relevant enough to change the link! It's still on the front page news section, and people still click on it. I'm glad someone took the initiative and atleast linked to the Hohle Fels cave article, which has to do with this particular flute.99.54.188.157 (talk) 09:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Flute contains more information then Hohle Fels so it remains the appropriate article to link to for ITN. It also seems to me this is the proper thing since the discovery is of far greater significance to flute then Hohle Fels. The information is fairly early in the article, so this hardly seems a big deal to me but if the appropriate thing to request was a link to the specific subsection covering the new development (i.e. history) rather then linking to a largely irrelevant article as the primary topic. Also, as mentioned in many places, this should be reported in errors not here Nil Einne (talk) 10:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Loss of 3,000 articles

Anybody have any idea why our article count dropped from over 2, 929,000 last night to 2,926,000 this morning? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 13:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The deletionists have won? –Howard the Duck 13:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anybot's algae articles. --MZMcBride (talk) 14:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Once again the expansionists have been defeated by the minimalists, it is only a matter of time before there is nothing left....Willski72 (talk) 17:56, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Well that's certainly a massive exaggeration. Majorly talk 21:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Willski72, have you actually taken a look at the AfD? I'm someone who can certainly support mass creation of those kind of stubs- I'm dismayed about how patchy our coverage of fungi is, for instance. But that was obviously a sound deletion, due to the massive amounts of major errors within them. J Milburn (talk) 21:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Knowing Willski72 as I do, I can say without fear of contradiction that Willski72 never, never, never, ever, ever, ever exaggerates. Never ever. Not ever. No sirree. ;-) (I suspect Willski72 may be satirising dramah - they are a bringer of light-relief in general. I did see the AfD, and fully agree with the deletions). In other news, I'm pondering what would be the better name for a (hypothetical) band: "The deletionists have won", or "Anybot's algae articles"? TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 21:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The latter, I reckon. "The deletionists have won" would be a headline on an ultra-inclusionist newspaper on the day a known deletionist was elected to ArbCom. J Milburn (talk) 21:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry Willski, I bet this goes on all the time. Tomorrow you'll wake up and there'll be 30,000 new articles and the following day there'll be 8,000 less. It all works out in the end. --candle•wicke 03:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

First let me say i was not in any way being sarcastic (!) and i fully believed that i would wake up one morning to find that Wikipedia had imploded on itself! However i now take great comfort in the knowledge that this was not the beginning of the end but just the normal workings of a somewhat erratic machine! PS "The deletionists have won" would be a far better name for a band than some of the rubbish they come up with, it has my full support.Willski72 (talk) 09:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

PPS "Anybot's algae articles"??? There really is no contest! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willski72 (talk • contribs) 09:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Sorry!Willski72 (talk) 09:22, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Somewhere out there there will be someone with a recurring nightmare wherein they go to sleep at night with millions of articles on Wikipedia, but when they wake up and check the main page's top banner, it says "1 articles in English". They go to Special:AllPages, their heart racing, and all that appears is a single page called Template:Bluelink. They click on it, short of breath by now. All that appears on the page is "Wake up". They wake up in a cold sweat, knowing that won't be the last time they have that same dream. Dreaded Walrus ^{t c} 09:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes that would be very scary, especially if (for some unknown reason) the page called "The deletionists have won" was flashing bright red or somesuch colour. It would also be even scarier if the article went on to describe the mass murder of the expansionists in the middle of a meeting by gas through the air vents/deletionist indoctrinated man with machine gun etcWillski72 (talk) 13:05, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The articles deleted were deleted because they were made by a bot an contained factual errors. Wikipedia is better without 3000 inaccurate articles. The deletions were a result of a near unanimous debate. Attempting to make this part of the largely exaggerated "deletionists" vs "inclusionists" disputes demonstrates a real lack of awareness of the true situation. There are enough real issues on Wikipedia, no need to make up ones that don't exist. Chillum 13:08, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I feel like a dog thats just been kicked for goodnaturedly barking at the wrong person! (I was joking... as i have been all the way through... just in case you hadnt already worked that out).Willski72 (talk) 14:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Why can't I edit the main page?

?? -206.240.26.51 (talk) 15:19, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:FAQ/Main Page#Why am I not able to edit the Main Page? Algebraist 15:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I disagree, this is a wiki, and YOU ARE BREAKING THE WIKI SPIRIT by not letting me edit the main page. 206.240.26.51 (talk) 15:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but that is not going to work. WP is not run by such pie-eyed idealists that they'll let a known vandal edit the mainpage because he has appealed to the "Wiki spirit". APL (talk) 15:34, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

No feeding, please. --MZMcBride (talk) 18:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Indeed [4] Nil Einne (talk) 10:18, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

yeah i want to edit it too, oh wiki gods.--24.109.201.127 (talk) 21:16, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Chenzou, China

{{editprotected}} I think that the first "In the news" story should say "Chenzhou, China" instead of just "Chenzhou" since most people probably have not heard of Chenzhou. SlaterDeterminant (talk) 01:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. --- RockMFR 01:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK

Re astronomer Rolf Brahde, it's heartwarming to see Norway back in the DYK column. Sca (talk) 15:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Has it been absent for long? There are currently several European countries directly mentioned at ITN - Czech Republic, Poland, Austria, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia, Sweden and Russia and Italy but no Norway... --candle•wicke 15:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:Recent additions, this is the fifth Norway-related item in the last week. Algebraist 17:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Considering the vast population (a fifth of the worlds!) and the large surface area (4th biggest in the world!) this is a shambles! Or maybe i've mixed Norway up with China?Willski72 (talk) 17:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

No, you're right... people are always talking about Norway here so it must be big. Considering Europe has like 2/3 of the world's English-speaking populations (or something) I'm guessing they must all live in Norway or maybe moved there from other countries to escape all the sudden floods and exploding trains and now they're all celebrating there because Wikipedia has restored them to their rightful place alongside the United States of New Zealand and Zimbabwe. (Did I get that right? No? Oh.) --candle•wicke 18:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Whoa, don't knock Newzlandia. We invented the jet, the atom and Mount Everest (though that last one was a joint invention). Cheers, TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 16:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

It is a statistical fact that Norway once controlled a huge empire and defeated Germany single-handedly in the Second World War.Willski72 (talk) 18:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh curses, now our Secret has finally been exposed. We "Europeans" are all really Norwegians. When we are not working on our Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius encyclopedia, we write fake articles on the imaginary countries of "Europe". We warned you not to tell the non-"European" editors. The whole game has been spoilt. Michael of Lucan (talk) 12:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Slip of the tongue, im sorry! At least they still dont know about the Luxembourg's huge new navy thats 3 times bigger than any other. Woops!Willski72 (talk) 16:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Front page is losing its appeal

Put some more bright colors in it. --AaThinker (talk) 21:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

This is a regular suggestion, one that has caused widespread debate but always leads to nothing. See WP:PEREN for more information. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Not only is this a regular suggestion, but it's to be a regular suggestion by AaThinker, apparently. —David Levy 22:22, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Crash

Did wikipedia just crash? i was trying to browse some article and a This Wiki Has A Problem page popped up everytime, whats the matter?--Josecarlos1991 (talk) 23:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it was down. I posted a question over at Commons and got a short explanation from BanyanTree. Newsboy85 (talk) 23:25, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Ooh, i see, thank you for the information brother (= --Josecarlos1991 (talk) 23:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

TechBlog entry about this --mav (talk) 02:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Problem with Did You Know

Two of the items in Did You Know are non-compliant as they fail to deal with Canadian subjects. Can someone fix this urgently? Michael of Lucan (talk) 15:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

It is not something to be fixed. They don't have to deal with Canadian subjects. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I've checked, and the Royal Mail article does have a link to Canada Post. So, only the Wiltshire article fails the "Refer to Canada" test. Clearly some error. :-D Michael of Lucan (talk) 15:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean by the "Refer to Canada" test? I know it is Canada Day but it doesn't mean all DYK hooks have to be Canada-related. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Your majesty - I am joking. {Bows and grovels, backs from the Borg throne room then, unplugging self from the Hive Entity, enters escape pod. Sound of airlock closing.} Michael of Lucan (talk) 16:01, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Groan... --BorgQueen (talk) 16:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

You really shouldnt have those escape pods within easy reach of jokers, or at least have a guard there watching the thing!Willski72 (talk) 16:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

News

In the news "Republic of Ireland" should be pipelinked to show Ireland as Republic of Ireland is not the name of the country and the main page should be accurate and reflect this.MITH 17:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)