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:Hello [[User:Nickshanks|Nicholas]]. Even though they are static now, they could be re-assigned at some point in the future which creates complications. If you don't want to miss messages to those IPs, simply put their talk pages on watch. If you want to keep a record of the IPs you've edited from, then simply state which IPs you've used on your current talk page. You can leave notes on the talk pages of each IP to the effect that you edited from that IP with a link to your talk page. There's no need for redirects. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore#top|talk]]) 06:34, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
:Hello [[User:Nickshanks|Nicholas]]. Even though they are static now, they could be re-assigned at some point in the future which creates complications. If you don't want to miss messages to those IPs, simply put their talk pages on watch. If you want to keep a record of the IPs you've edited from, then simply state which IPs you've used on your current talk page. You can leave notes on the talk pages of each IP to the effect that you edited from that IP with a link to your talk page. There's no need for redirects. [[User:Voceditenore|Voceditenore]] ([[User talk:Voceditenore#top|talk]]) 06:34, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

== Suzannah Lipscomb ==

Thank you for the addition you made to this page regarding education etc.

In fact she did go to Epsom College for sixth form, after Nonsuch from 11-16, and she is now a Governor at Epsom College. She is not just on the faculty of NCH but is Convenor for History as well as Senior Lecturer.

As you have felt able to add to this page (I didn't dare as another User deletes everything I put), and in view of the fact that it is being considered for deletion, I wonder if you would also be prepared to add more information as detailed by me and others on the deletion discussion page, e.g. her lecture tour of America in 2009, he award for All The King's Fools<ref>{{cite web|title=All The King's Fools|url=http://www.allthekingsfools.co.uk/site/}}</ref>, her BBC History magazine talks both last year and this year at Malmesbury, her Chalke Valley History Festival talk in June this year.

Thank you.[[User:MdeBohun|MdeBohun]] ([[User talk:MdeBohun|talk]]) 09:45, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hey

Oi, you haven't put your email into your preferences!

Only reason I noticed is that I usually ask this privately, but anyway...fancy a shot at RFA? I would be happy to nominate you. Best, Moreschi (talk) (debate) 22:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oi, Moreschi, I've sent you an email so you'll have my address if you ever need it. Thanks for the offer and your confidence. But... admin-ing would take too much time away from what I really enjoy – writing articles, rescuing worthy kittens from being drowned at AfDs, and helping out on the Opera Project. The latter can provide quite enough wiki-drama as it is. ;-). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See also [1]. Voceditenore (talk) 10:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was a delight...

...to read this brilliant piece. And I wasn't even looking for it; I came here to thank you for backing me up on the GA issue on Egardus, since that's something that's been bugging me for a while and had to get off my chest. But your essay was spot-on. Oops, there I go again, pretending to be an adult! Need to get a bouncier, animated signature ... Antandrus (talk) 23:02, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll make you one if you promise to give me three barnstars. ;-) Seriously, though thanks for the kind review. I wrote that when WP was in the midst of an invasion by a particularly... er... time-consuming... bunch of 13 year olds. At one point there was even a WikiProject (now deleted) that was awarding them barnstars for every 1000 edits, every 50 AfD's "voted on", every 5 (hapless) editors they adopted, etc., etc.. For a while, I and a couple of other editors spent all our time running around cleaning up after them, until they lost interest and/or got blocked. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciation

Hi, Voceditenore. Thanks for the beautiful rewrite on John Andrew Rea. I would prefer not having to delete noteworthy articles, but the current backlog at copyright violations leaves me little time to revise much text. (Especially in Moonriddengirl's absence.) I just wanted you to know that I very much appreciate your contributions. Cheers. — CactusWriter | needles 06:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome ;-) and you were absolutely right to delete it. If you have time, could you do me a favour? I've re-written Juliette Pochin on Talk:Juliette Pochin/Temp. Would it possible to move it into article space. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:33, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Another nice job -- and better still was your discussion with the original creator on the talk page. "...Teach a man to fish..." etc. You're a good teacher. Cheers. — CactusWriter | needles 16:13, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! In my university teaching days, I once had a student who plagiarsed my own book in her essay. But at least it took some effort, bless her. She typed it out from the hardcopy — must have taken ages. Re "teaching how to fish...", I'm not sure how many new fishermen it produces for Wikipedia. In the Opera Project we get a lot of articles for singers, opera companies, etc. created by their agents and PR people, and sometimes themselves. In my experience, the best I can hope for is that they'll edit their article according to the guidelines in future. I have yet to find one who has ever contributed anything else to Wikipedia. Their only interest in the project is as a PR tool. Having said that, at least it results (after much red-pencilling from other editors) in one new article on a notable subject that we didn't have before. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for teaching me also, about every singer to opera and avoiding answers.com! I keep supplying singers to the project who never sing opera, last Dorothee Mields. When I found a Bach singer who also sang opera I nominated that fact for DYK, Franz Kelch, to be 95 this year, no PR involved. Unfortunately the only source for him I found in English reads like a machine translation. Any help in that case? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My god, plagiarizing the prof's own book -- that's sadly funny -- the very definition of clueless. I would suggest she switch majors. I know what you mean about bulk of submissions coming from PR types. (It's one of the reasons I refrain from offering copyright violators much opportunity to license the source website -- the promotional text couldn't be used anyway.) But, occasionally, unexpectedly, when the stars align just so... you'll come across a true angler among the crowd of daytrippers. When is that next blue moon anyway? — CactusWriter | needles 19:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance Please

Hello Voceditenore. Would you please check my user talk page? Some time ago you were assisting me in the creation of a new page, ".Gabriel". As you requested, I posted my request on that page but haven't heard from you. I understand you are very busy but would really appreciate your help. Thank you!TF537 (talk) 21:35, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Please see edit request. In the meantime, you can use put the alt in the image parameter. e.g. |image=[[File:example.png|200px|alt=Example alt text]] Racepacket (talk) 21:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Coming of Age (BBC TV series)

I would question why the BBC are allowed to vandalise the page and put blatant propaganda on there suggesting that the response to the programme was mixed in some way, when in fact it was universally appalling. Every time real and referenced reviews are put up, they are taken down by some BBC apparatchik dickhead. Why are they not censored? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.176.103 (talk) 18:06, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with "real and referenced reviews" being taken down. You deliberately inserted false and in several cases defamatory content about living people in multiple articles related to this show, as well adding as your personal commentary disguised to make it look as if it were a quote referenced from a reliable source, e.g. [2], [3], [4], [5]. You are going to get your IP, aka Oxford University, blocked if you keep it up. Voceditenore (talk) 18:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Travesti/Victorian burlesque

Tim just did a nice job expanding the Victorian burlesque article. Does anything need to be added back and forth between this and the Travesti article that you are working on? Just a thought. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think of the current merge proposal at Burlesque (literature)? I wonder if merging it into the poorly-written Burlesque article will destroy any value (or chance at expansion) that it may have. Your comments would be valued at Talk:Burlesque. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:31, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, V. You may find this article of interest: http://www.jstor.org/pss/3826405 -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:20, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Steve. I'm going to file this away for when I next add to Travesti. I've still got a bit to do re the ballet sections. But I never seem to get the time. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keto and Kote

Many thanks for re-establishing this article. During copy-edit driving I found the previous version a complete copy-and-paste violation from inception; I was the one who tagged for deletion. I have to say your succinct but elegant stub is superb, and should be set as an example of “how to do it”’. I have a tendency to reduce faulty articles to the brusque and barren, so I will log your Keto and Kote as a guiding light. In admiration. Acabashi (talk) 03:24, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Castrato parts

Hehe :) Moreschi (talk) 17:38, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Above comment is in response to this. Voceditenore (talk) 14:08, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Burlesque

Thanks for watching the dead links. It's a big shame that the PeoplePlayUK site went down, as it had a huge amount of info for Victorian articles. I think that most of the content migrated somewhere, but I'm not sure where. Any idea? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:03, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the only dead link was PeoplePlayUK. The other 2 were spam/copyvio. Anyhow, the Theatre Museum's contents are now held by the Victoria & Albert. See the V & A's Theatre and Performance collections page. If you search the V & A collections, the online objects generally come with a lot of informative text in addition to the image. See this, for example. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:40, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Carmen

I have finished my work on this. The peer review threw up some interesting suggestions, many of which have been absorbed into the article. It is now at FAC (please take a look), and I am working on improving and extending the discography subarticle. I have not done anything with the "adaptations" which were removed from the older version of the article, and it may be a while before I can get to deciding what should be done here. Brianboulton (talk) 18:16, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on getting it to FA, Brian! I'm going to be away for the next 2 weeks and wouldn't be able to help with an "adaptations" page anyway. One of the advantages of page like that is to keep all sorts of minor (and often very trivial) distractions out of the main article. A popular work like this is particularly prone to that kind of stuff, often added "drive-by" without references or context. But let's see how it goes. There may not be a need for an "adaptations", at least in the near future. By the way, can you get the Carmen Filmography link to work? I can't and have tried multiple times. :/ Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:21, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I will continue improving the discography article as time permits. In due course I'll open a rudimentary "adaptations" article for the purpose you describe; it won't be long before the trivia merchants start tampering with the main article. It went through the FAC process so smoothly and swiftly that I can't help an uneasy feeling that something important got missed. Brianboulton (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Smithsonian updates website!

Hi Voceditenore! The Smithsonian Institution Archives took notice of your finding about Clara Hasse's death date and will be updating their records, website and Flickr! The changes should take place tomorrow. So thanks for the great find! Sarah (talk) 14:23, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. It's nice to see that the traffic between Wikipedia and its sources goes both ways. Last year I got the Encyclopedic Discography of Victor Recordings at UCSB to change a glaring error on their database which found while I was researching Stanislao Gastaldon. In the process, I discovered another and even more whopping error in New Grove Dictionary of Opera which had been propagated all over the internet, but that's Grove's problem. OK, now I'm off to give the Harvard library system a nudge over this. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tobias

Apologies if this is in the wrong place (finding out how to contribute to Wikipedia is a very steep learning curve and I've only just learnt Joomla, brain hurting!). Huge thanks for the rewriting and reformatting of the article on Dove's Tobias and the Angel. I'd only just discovered it was there and found it was so incomplete and inaccurate it needed some serious input. Having been in the project from the very beginning I felt I had the authority to write on it, and did post some material from my website - hadn't realised this seems to count as conflict of interest. But it certainly doesn't violate copyright which presumably belongs to me, and I'd like to be able to insert a photo of the Birmingham production, would this be allowed? I'd be very grateful if you had time to help me on this. Kate Quartano Brown (talk) 15:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Little favour

A while back I did some work de-fluffing Richard Gombrich. I think it still needs some more, but I have a little learning to the most dangerous degree and can't really see the wood for the trees. I'm pretty sure the structure is still hagiographic. May I ask if you could do a quick brisk hacking back of the undergrowth? Am pretty sure that the list of publications goes way beyond the notable, too. Amuse yourself by reading how it looked five years ago almost-instinct 12:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks

I'm grateful for your clear explanation and kind welcome on my first interaction with Wikipedia. The format here is slightly intimidating and I'm wary of breaking taboos or upsetting anyone so your breakdown and reassurance was greatly appreciated. :-)

SonnySonnyWilliamson (talk) 11:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Giovanna Gray

DYK gong archived here. Voceditenore (talk) 09:35, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just wanted to say, nice job on the Giovanna Gray article. Going to the old, foreign language sources is something not everyone can do, and it makes a big difference. David.thompson.esq (talk) 13:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, David. I had a lot fun writing that. Most of the articles I write tend to be of this type, e.g., Cristina, regina di Svezia, Mala Pasqua!, Stanislao Gastaldon, Andrea Salvadori, Eugenia Tadolini. I figure that for the really famous composers, operas, singers, etc. there are plenty of online sources, but for these, the only place people will be able to find detailed information, in English, and free of charge is Wikipedia. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2004008982/resource/

What do you think of this image, which also covers an opera singer without photo? Adam Cuerden (talk) 21:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's OK, but I'd never use it for Lillian Grenville. The one of her alone will be much better for that article. It's also a much more arresting image than this rather stilted duo. But this one would be good for Gustave Huberdeau and Natoma (kills 2 birds with one stone for that article). Voceditenore (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some more possibilities for articles and future articles with no images:

The Bain collection is very badly annotated, I'm just plowing slowly through all the images and clicking on ones that likely to be opera singers. I may find some more...

Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Any idea which Stephano the Jacoby is? Niklausse is almost certainly Tales of Hoffmann, but I'm not sure off-hand about a Stephano trousers role. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:10, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I assume Roméo et Juliette she sang it many times at the Met at around the time that picture was taken [6], and her career was almost entirely at the Met. Voceditenore (talk) 19:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thought that would've been too high for her, since Wikipedia labels it as a soprano part. If she sang it, though, it's probably that. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:58, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Met lists her as a mezzo-soprano (rather than contralto), and the role is frequently sung and recorded by mezzos, e.g. Kristine Jepson, Susan Graham, etc. Voceditenore (talk) 10:18, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rosine Stoltz

Some time ago, you started the article on Rosine Stoltz. There is now a discussion about the date of her death. I wonder if you could consult your original sources and let us know. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:58, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at Talk:Rosine Stoltz. Voceditenore (talk) 13:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IEP

Hi Voce. I see you're still very much on the ball with the IEP issue. Not that 16 months later has anyone in the Foundation really taken a blind bit of notice of what Torey said. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:12, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notre-Dame de Clignancourt

A most pleasing new article. I'll add the church to my itinerary for a vaguely-planned, Fauré-themed wander round Paris. Don't bother to reply to this: I just wanted to express my appreciation. – Tim riley (talk) 19:50, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Di Fiorino et al.

Ciao Voce. I hope this finds you well. Our paths once again cross in Mario Di Fiorino, and I notice your work in Gruppo del Rosario. There is a connection between Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry, the closely connected, newly created bios Maria Luisa Figueira and Mario Di Fiorino, as well as edits made by the same users in e.g. Davide Lazzeretti, Leonetto Amadei, Ganser syndrome, and Mind control. I reverted in Leonetto Amadei, and left a note on the editor's page, and subsequently tried to add info from the .it article Leonetto Amadei. (It appears that the Italian Leonette Amadei has had additions similar to the ones made to the English.) The English version has had the same material re-added. I restored an older version of Davide Lazzeretti. I have raised attention about this pattern (WP:COATRACK?) on WikiProject Medicine and WikiProject Psycholog, alas, not to much avail. Maybe it is something you would like to look into? Best, Sam Sailor Sing 21:05, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sam, hmmm, yes, I've noticed this interesting little can of worms. On the Italian WP, some of their stuff has been deleted outright, e.g. Mario di Fiorino, Bridging Eastern & Western Psychiatry and Psichiatria e Territorio (also founded by Di Fiorino) or reverted in existing articles, e.g. Leonetto Amadei, Davide Lazzeretti. Often, however, a "new" editor pops up to re-add the stuff, as happens here. The editors also use the same arguments they use here: "It's in the Italian/English Wikipedia so it's ok".
Several of the SPAs active here have been blocked for sockpuppetry at the Italian WP [7], [8], [9]. I'm not sure if they're sock or meat puppets, but without getting into outing, Google searches on their user names reveal that all are from the Pisa/Forte dei Marmi/Viareggio area. A couple are students of Di Fiorino or his colleagues, one works for a hotel in Forte dei Marmi and helps organize functions for Di Fiorino's symposia, two have co-authored articles with Di Fiorino, one appears to be Di Fiorino himself, etc. etc. I would say that just about every red-linked contributor since August to the articles you've cited is in some way connected to Di Fiorino and all their contributions here need checking. Some of them have extensively edited psychology/psychiatry articles in addition to the ones you've mentioned. Note also this sandbox. There's obviously more to come.
Anyhow, here's my take on some of the articles:
If we meet resistance from the "consortium" of Tuscan editors, then we take 'em to WP:COI/N. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 22:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Beautiful to see the logic you apply when investigating, I learned a lot. Thanks! Best, Sam Sailor Sing 00:04, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Want me to do {{cite books}} in the Publications section of Mario Di Fiorino? Best, Sam Sailor Sing 09:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dauvergne

Hi. I was planning to create more than just stubs for those operas, but I've been too busy/off it recently. I do have the Rousset recording of Hercule mourant, so I'll try to improve that particular article over the next few weeks. Next year I might even be able to get my hands on Dratwicki's full-length biography of Dauvergne (extracts are accessible at Google Books). Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 09:34, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's brilliant that you've created these (stubs or not), thanks so much! I managed to find an illustration for Hercule mourant. I'll see what I can do for Canente and Polixène, if nothing else the title pages of the scores à la Énée et Lavinie. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, thanks - and thanks for the nice image. Have you seen Livrets baroques? They have libretti for all four of these Dauvergne tragedies. Some of those pages contain images of the original costume designs, so they must have got them from somewhere. Also, I'm tempted to create a few other Dauvergne stubs, although it will break with my plan to focus on tragic French opera for the time being. Dauvergne's comédie-ballet La vénitienne was also recorded recently, but I don't have the discs. --Folantin (talk) 10:22, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(By "some of them", I really mean Canente [10]. Can't see much for the others). --Folantin (talk) 10:29, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sylvia Shwartz

I looked at the edit dated 20th Feb, and it was essentially the same as the Amazon review, so no copyright infringement. I'm unconvinced that it is ready for submission yet, given the generally hagiographic tone, eg She is the latest of her family to achieve international renown. followed by sections of her family's achievement (notability is not inheritable, so no real point to this), Miss Schartz instead of just the surname, "Career highlights" rather than "Career". Shall I recreate in Lisaby's sandbox? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:28, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jim, I answered over at the AfC Help Desk where I suggested moving to User:Lisaby/Sylvia Schwartz (a previous redirect to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sylvia Schwartz). It sounds like it needs a good going over for style and tone as well as referencing and I'll try to help the editor with it before they submit it again. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:23, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bradbury/Vedontakal Vrop

Hi there! I gave up on the image after Future Perfect's intemperate blast, but I don't see that this is a 'clear' NFCC violation, as you noted when re-removing the image (which I suppose was restored by some kind soul hoping to get me blocked). It is FP who in the discussion on this was imo 'wikilawyering', by stating his interpretation, and then declaring that it was the right and only interpretation, before getting on his high horse of denunciation. Not that I can be bothered to take it any further. Best, --Smerus (talk) 11:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Smerus. The IP who kept restoring it is trolling and highly likely to be doing so because of a dispute with the administrator who removed it, rather than with you. They're probably a sock of a blocked user to boot. The image use in Vedontakal Vrop quite clearly violates Criterion 8. of Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria: "Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Not having a picture of the author of the novel in which the opera is mentioned is in no way detrimental to the understanding of the topic, i.e. the opera. The administrator who removed it is highly experienced in image licensing issues and is also an License reviewer on Commons. They aren't "wikilawyering", although I can see why editors who don't work in that area might perceive it as such. As someone who does a lot of work in copyright and fair use issues related to text, I know from experience that our actions can be unpopular with some editors, and there's a tendency to shoot the messenger . Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for this, a little bit of context makes a lot of difference! (although I still think FP@S could have used a bit of the old AGF). Anyway as I am presently in Kiev, there's a lot more exciting going on than WP.......Best, --Smerus (talk) 13:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Er... a lot more exciting! Stay safe, Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:55, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
On my walk to work this morning......--Smerus (talk) 14:51, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cripes! Voceditenore (talk) 17:36, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hampstead Village Voice

Hi, and thanks for your help with the above. Very new to all this. FTR: The Press Gazzette's (ref 5) is not entirely correct. It was not a spoof edition but spoof front page on p.17 of Hampstead Village Voice edition 4 in 2008 (ref. Hard copy of Hampstead Village Voice edition 4). Also the Camden Review is a section of the local paper, Camden New Journal. I will try to prune and improve on existing as suggested but a bit of a Wikipedia novice, so all help much appreciated. Please have another look at it when you can. Kind regards, Sebastian Wocker. wocker@btinternet.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.35.166 (talk) 21:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sebastian, I've moved you message down here to the bottom of this page. (New talk page threads go at the bottom of the talk page. More about that at Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines.) Anyhow, I'm in Italy at the moment with very limited internet access. I'll have a look when I get back on the 9th. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:50, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Caldara +

Thank you for the Caldara opera, here's another: La concordia de' pianeti [11], --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gerda. You're welcome :). I've added quite a bit more to it now. Apparently, Tito e Berenice was part of contest! I might do La concordia once the German performance actually takes place. In the meantime, I'll be working on creating the other two Operas of the Month, by papa Scarlatti and his son. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. After I closed my shop completely (see my talk, - I kept the ironing lady) I suddenly feel very busy with a man whose boss is the pope and a painter stub, not mentioning the GA nom for Chéreau. Did you see that I mention singing as occupation in my own (bzzt, unspeakable)? (Derived from "Singen, singen" in the Christmas Story by Schütz). In choir, we will concentrate on Schütz and Rutter, Magnificat by both, I hope I will get in the mood until July / October / November. Certainly not if we keep losing a great editor every week, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*taps microphone*

Is it safe to come back....? almost-instinct 15:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yep :) Great to see you, A-I! I miss those happy hours we spent de-pufferizing articles. I had to whack this one all by myself. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 15:56, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Mmmm maybe not so safe after all.... almost-instinct 13:43, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, you mean below? I think you'll be OK . I only mention it if I'm specifically asked. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:09, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not you I'm worried about ;) almost-instinct 11:19, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

AfC submission

Hi FoCuS. I've cleaned this up (a lot!) and moved to article space myself. Passes MUSICBIO on the recordings. Clearly an autobio, however. I removed and/or copyedited a bunch of stuff. Best Voceditenore (talk) 07:51, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This one's a bit tricky. The only way she would pass with the current referencing is WP:MUSICBIO #9 (Has won or placed in a major music competition). Some of her prizes are properly referenced, but I have no idea if those are major international competitions. Suggest you get a view from WikiProject Classical Music. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:51, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi FoCuS. Scrapes a pass via WP:MUSICBIO#5 with the two recordings for Newport Classic. Dreadful article though. Tag it with {{copyedit}}, {{Blp refimprove}}, and {{external links}}. I haven't got the time now to take my mighty red pencil to it, but I'm sure others will once its in mainspace. Will try to get to the others in a couple of days. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:35, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Has entries in Women composers and songwriters: a concise biographical dictionary and Women in music: an encyclopedic biobibliography, Volume 2 and the ASCAP Biographical Dictionary of Composers, Authors and Publishers. More than a 50% chance of surviving an AfD, and unlikely it would be taken there (dead people rarely are). I cleaned it up a bit and added the authority control. I'd say accept and see what happens. Voceditenore (talk) 09:35, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi FoCuS. I've just removed 3/4 of the draft. It was verbatim and/or closely paraphrased from http://www.lucyparham.com/biography.htm (as if the horrific puffery weren't a clue in itself). I've left an extended comment on the draft. In the meantime, I recommend declining this. The referencing is completely inadequate for a BLP and for the claims made. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:29, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Schoen-René

Hi voceditenore. I just read some interesting articles on this lady and thought you might enjoy penning an article on her. Here are some potential sources:

Best wishes.4meter4 (talk) 02:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! She sounds like quite a character, 4meter4. I'm sort of up to my eyeballs at the moment, but I'll keep this here to remind me to get 'round to it eventually, if someone else doesn't first. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:44, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Hi, Voceditenore. Many thanks for your assistance in creating Paolo Giubellino's article. I'm grateful for your clear explanation and helping to fix the citation reference problem. Your help is really appreciated and encouraging for new users. Great work! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pcharito (talk • contribs) 10:17, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A bowl of sweet strawberries for you!

Thankyou so much for your help with the Cafe Jacques article. You are a very bright star in the Wikipedia constellation! I certainly will enjoy investigating, and using the references.

I'm feeling a bit humble over here, because my research skills need to be honed to a sharper edge. Then again, you have given me some clues with your refs. By the way, I found your user page quite interesting. Have a great day. CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 08:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind note, CaesarsPalaceDude! If you need any more help with your draft, do let know. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 11:15, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Longy in the Spring

Dear Voceditenore, Longy offers my course in the Spring now. May the students and I impose upon your kindness this semester? We'd be grateful if we might. With hopes that you are well and not feeling too soggy after your record winter rains. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 02:25, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IJ! I'll be happy to keep an eye on your brood, as always, although I'll be "away from desk" from April 1–23 with very limited internet access. When are their assignments due? All the best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:56, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi VdT! Thanks for your gracious response. We're just coming off our Spring Break, hence my delayed reply. Although our deadline falls during your "away" period, your initial greeting always encourages each student, as do your kind follow-ups. More anon. Ijmusic (talk) 21:25, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi IJ. How disappointing that I'll be away! I love working with your Longy class. When I get back, I'll look in on their finished products with great interest. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:28, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Buon viaggio, dear VdT, and thanks for your message. I appreciated your welcoming the students so warmly and so personally. With any luck, finished products will greet your return. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 22:20, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome back, VdT. When you're able, would you explain to us what's going on with Kangsax's additions to the Culture of the People's Republic of China? For reasons that I do not understand, Bgwhite summarily deleted virtually all of Kangsax's extended post of 20 Apr 14. Would I be mistaken in holding that a new editor's efforts deserve better treatment, or is there another issue involved? Hope you had a good break. Yours, Ijmusic (talk) 18:24, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I responded on my talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 21:53, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You Very Much!

Dear Voceditenore,

Thank you very much for welcoming me to Wikipedia and to the Wikipedia pages of Ijsounds and The Future of Classical Music class! I am pleased to make your acquaintance, and I hope to write a substantial article or a section for this class with integrity and without any bias, unprofessionalism, or malice.

Sincerely,

Classicalized — Preceding unsigned comment added by Classicalized (talk • contribs) 17:07, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Classicalized. I'm looking forward to your contributions. All the best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:58, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for fixing the Egg butter!

Just what the headline says. The references probably weren't the easiest to find - and hopefully someone will add more to the article. --Sander Säde 13:47, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure, Sander Säde and many thanks for your kind note. Voceditenore (talk) 11:01, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request your help

Hi Voceditenore, I just submitted suggested revisions for the Stetson University College of Law page. I'd edit this page myself but I work for Stetson University and there's a COI. Thanks for your help in the recent past! 24.73.119.194 (talk) 18:58, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See my replies at Talk:Stetson University College of Law#2014 program and ranking updates. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 11:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sharon Ruchman

Thanks for your recent cleanup/removing promotional/un-encyclopedic information from Sharon Ruchman. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David. I'm away until the end of April, but I'm rather minded to PROD it or take it to AfD. But I'll need to do a little research first. I had a look at the talk page of the reviewer who had accepted it. Dear Oh Dear. :) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:05, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Libretto links

Many thanks for that source. I'm expanding the Poliuto article and it appears that no current recording in the French version contains an English/French libretto. This will help a lot, along with a combination of 5th form French and Google translate. All the best Viva-Verdi (talk) 21:40, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me again, please, with Café Jacques?

Hi Voceditenore, after many more edits, new inline citations (some from you), new sections, help from the Teahouse, and one or two edits from a friendly Bot, I'm submitting Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Café Jacques (band) again. Could you, please, have another look at it? I am seeking to establish notability on the basis of "two albums on a major label" and "two notable musicians in the ensemble". I am still not completely happy with the inline citations, however I'm sure it is a huge improvement compared to the last submission. Will the reviewers see evidence of notability? Do you have any suggestions re how, in general, to improve the article? Thanks again for your help in the past. Have a qreat day.CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 09:27, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CaesarsPalaceDude. I've moved it to article space. There's enough there to pass Criteria 5 of WP:MUSBIO supported by independent reliable sources. I'll leave more on your talk page. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 10:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Voceditenore, Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! I must admit to doing one or two cartwheels around the room. Have a great day.CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 18:12, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Civility Barnstar
I was really impressed at your repeated attempts to explain WP policy and guidelines regarding the Matthew Berdyck article, in spite of an editor who kept misunderstanding what you were trying to say. I hope to be as diplomatic as you! Liz Read! Talk! 21:35, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, Liz! What a pleasant surprise! Yes, one does need nerves of steel over at the AfC Help Desk. After a while, I realized that it wasn't a case of simple misunderstanding, it was trolling, but I wasn't about to rise to the bait. Predictably, he (I'm sure it's only one person, not 2) went to ANI and wasted yet more editors' time, since they didn't know the background to the saga. There's more at the BLP Noticeboard. Click on the external link there which had been in his article as a "reference", and you'll see what I mean. On the other hand, the AfC desk can be really rewarding when you can help genuine newbies make their first article on Wikipedia, and hopefully want to stay. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:48, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Chris Glen article

Hi Voceditenore, I have taken up the baton to beat Chris Glen into shape by copy editing from top to bottom in one (long) session. At the moment, I'm tired, and I'm not sure I have any objectivity left. Could you take a look, please, because you might feel inclined to remove one or more of those (very appropriate) tags?

Also, could you explain to me, please, how the time-context tag applies in this case, and the actions I would need to take to resolve the issues? I can't seem to get my head around it (brain must be too small), kind regards,CaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 10:22, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CaesarsPalaceDude. You've been doing some great work there. It's much improved! A great guide for copyediting in terms of style and tone is Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch. It explains about relative time constructs, peacockery, etc.. Also the style we use in biographies is to refer to the person by their full name only in the opening sentence with subsequent mentions either a pronoun or last name only, i.e. "Glen" or "he". When you think the problems are pretty much fixed, just go ahead and remove the tags. I'm off for the next three weeks, but when I get back, I'll take a look at it. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:24, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Two pieces for wind quintet (Ropartz)

Could you perhaps help out with the discussion here. There's a general question involved. DGG ( talk ) 06:04, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Replied there. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:02, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Grecco

Thank you so much for your help with the Michael Grecco article, I'm not sure I would have been able to get it accepted without you! I will continue to do my best to improve it, thanks again! RonEwer 21:49, 29 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronewer (talk • contribs)

You're very welcome, Ronewer. I was happy to help and hope you'll enjoy working on Wikipedia. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 16:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ROH edits

Hi Voce, re-reading my contribution to the WP+ROH thread, I was (post the event) struck by how much you had avoided naming the involved parties, and how much I had worked in a diametrically-opposed way to link everybody, to draw their attention to the thread. I don't think that professional involvement, per se, is necessarily bad for WP, but only if it's a order of magnitude better than the contributions of Edwardx. Some kind of response seems advisable, but I don't know whether involving Edwardx, or relying on Tim riley/Andrew Grey, or talking to the ROH/ Rob Grieg is the best way forward. Scarabocchio (talk) 16:03, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Scarabocchio. I've commented further at the OP. I think maybe just keep an eye on the situation for now via User:AlexNewArtBot/OperaSearchResult and see if it happens again before raising a brouhaha. One of the reasons I kept it fairly low-key is that I'm about to be away for three weeks and won't be able to follow through with discussions etc. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:47, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

thanks

really wonder whether this time the page waris mir goes beyond the red zone, but the help was big. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afirahamid (talk • contribs) 13:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Afirahamid. I think Draft:Waris Mir will be OK in the end. I will be away for the next three weeks, but when I return, I'll have a look and see how it's getting on, and if it's not an article yet, see what can be done. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 16:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear voceditenore plz help with draft of war is mir SOS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afirahamid (talk • contribs) 20:40, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your efforts!

The Original Barnstar
Your name came up on a Wikipediocracy thread about solid content writers who don't get the credit they deserve and I just wanted to drop by and do a little of that. Thanks for your work on behalf of The Project! Carrite (talk) 15:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Carrite. That's very kind of you. I must confess that until I read the whole sentence, I was rather taken aback by "Your name came up on a Wikipediocracy thread...". Joking aside, people here often show their appreciation of content editors, albeit in quiet ways, but shiny things are nice too. Voceditenore (talk) 16:49, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kanawishi: Five Against Venus

First, thank you for your encouragement and for the pointers you gave me. I never suspected that such resources existed for science fiction, especially the older stuff. However, I checked them out and even found some new ones. So now I believe that I may have my article on "Five Against Venus" ready for you to look at. If it comes up to Wikipedia standards, there are, on the Wikipedia list of science-fiction novels, almost two dozen titles in red that I can turn blue over the next few years. Please let me know how I did.Kanawishi (talk) 17:30, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kanawishi. Unfortunately, I'm about to be away for three weeks, but I'll be happy to look in on it when I get back and see how we fix it further. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 17:33, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A little More Of Your Attention Needed/Request

Hi Voceditenore, I have recently added a few more References to my Article & would be grateful if you could help a bit more with format and correct placement of References in the Article, please also give your valuable opinion when convenient. I shall be waiting for your response eagerly. Stay Blessed! Regards.Azhartokyo (talk) 04:48, 2 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

JSTOR Survey (and an update)

Hi! Just a quick update that while JSTOR and The Wikipedia Library discuss expanding the partnership, they've gone ahead and extended the pilot access again, until May 31st. Thanks, JSTOR!

It would be really helpful for growing the program if you would fill out this short survey about your usage and experience with JSTOR:

SURVEY

Cheers, Ocaasi via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:47, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Prakhar Bindal

You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:56, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please, allow some time to improve the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.194.197.211 (talk) 21:54, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks the heads-up, John. It's now been over two weeks with no significant improvement since the article was restored. Consequently, I took it to AfD today (Articles for deletion/Prakhar Bindal). Best, Voceditenore (talk) 12:05, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

From Sammo: new article on Copland's Symphony for Organ and Orchestra

Dear Voceditenore, Thanks for contacting me on my talk page! I have started a new article for Dr. Isaiah Jackson's Future of Classical Music course at the Longy School of Music. Here is the draft: Symphony for Organ and Orchestra (Copland). I have no specific requests for help at this time, but I will let you know when the article is submitted. Thanks, Sammo (talk) 01:02, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Greetings -- what is your opinion about this? I'm pretty sure it's who we think -- main problem is the change in geolocation, but the MO is the same. Antandrus (talk) 15:00, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Antandrus! I'm almost positive it's the same, as per my comments here. The various (radical) changes of location, e.g. New York, Wisconsin, Australia are odd. Perhaps contact one of the checkusers at this Sockpuppet investigation to see if they have any ideas as to whether it's possible to pull off something like that? Observe the savvy demonstrated by one of his confirmed socks here. It's also possible that he lived in Wisconsin and has since moved to New York and had also been travelling in Australia. Or goes to boarding school in New York. Or shares his time between divorced parents. Who knows? But I'll eat my hat if it's not the same person. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:51, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A spot of bother with Piped Links

Hi User:Voceditenore, I have done more edits on Chris Glen since I last talked to you, but I haven't had a chance to work on the citations, yet.

I did a pair of edits in which I created a piped link from Änglagård to a section in ProjeKcts, and then put a note !-- the article Änglagård links here -- beside the section heading in the ProjeKcts article. I did that because I read it in this quideline MOS Piped links. Woke up this morning to find that Bondegezou had reverted the edit which put the note beside the heading. I tried to persuade him to put it back, but he said "the note is not what the guidelines tell you to do".

I was hoping that you could take a quick look, please. Could you let me know, please, whether I am barking up the wrong tree, or just plain "barking"? That's all I need, unless you feel compelled to do something more.

How was your overseas tour? Kind regardsCaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 05:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CaesarsPalaceDude. It wasn't a "tour" really, but a lot of fun. We were in a gloriously sunny Northern California paying homage to our newest grandchild. Anyhow, you are right about the guideline. I put it back (just below the heading rather than in it) and left a note at the editor's talk page [12]. Having said that, very few editors think to leave the hidden note when piping or even know about that guidance (including me!), so the revert was understandable. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:09, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Voceditenore, it's great to know you had an outstanding visit, and a safe trip. I didn't know about that guidance either, and I stumbled onto it while I was trying to get the piped link syntax right. I gave you a call because I wasn't completely sure, and I didn't want to reverse it myself (make content not war). Thanks, yet again. Kind regardsCaesarsPalaceDude (talk) 10:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A cupcake for you!

I saw your posts on WikiProject Medicine about the draft medical related articles at Afc and want to express my appreciation for the great work that you are doing to help new editors. Your sound advice given with a friendly attitude is a great welcome for new contributors. Sydney Poore/FloNight♥♥♥♥ 16:46, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Sydney, that's very kind of you! AfC is a funny place. The vast majority of submissions are promotional dross, but hidden amongst them are promising new editors writing on encyclopedic topics who just need a little help. A decent experience there, finding someone who's willing to lend a hand, and seeing their article "go live" is a great way to recruit and keep new editors. It makes up for all the mind-numbingly awful stuff we have to plow through there. All the best, Voceditenore (talk) 05:33, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your response at the AfC help desk

The Tiger Award
According to the personal user awards page, the Tiger Award is given "[f]or patient, controlled strength applied to a task." Your response here was frank but respectful. Thank you. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 06:49, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, Anon! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Trevor Corry

Dear Voceditenore

I hope I have finally found a way of corresponding. I have found negotiating the Wikipedia site something of a nightmare. Firstly thank you so much for rescuing my article about Sir Trevor Corry. Also for the additional research you did which I found interesting. When you put it all together it seems there was quite a bit of information out there already, albeit only small amounts. In spite of several attempts I have not been able to find the more detailed message you told me you have left on my talk page. I put a photograph of St Mary's Church in Wikipedia Commons but cannot work out how to include it. As Corry made a large contribution towards the cost of building it I think it should be included. I took the photograph myself. Would you be prepared to add it for me please? Is there anything you would like my to do to improve the article? Again thank you for your very kind assistance.

Best Wishes, West Marshall

P.S. Should you be kind enough to reply, where do I go to find it? You can see how confused I find this site!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by West Marshall (talk • contribs) 15:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi West Marshall. Yes, Wikipedia takes a lot of getting used to, but you're doing fine. I've already added your picture of the church to Trevor Corry, scroll down to near the end of the Corry's estate section and you'll find it. My apologies for not contacting you on your talk page yesterday. I got horribly sidetracked . I hope you'll write some more articles for Wikipedia. Perhaps one on Trevor's brother, the erstwhile MP Edward Corry? Though, he's probably not as interesting a fellow as Trevor. Trevor's nephew (Edward's son) already has one—see Isaac Corry. If you ever need any help, don't hesitate to get in touch here, now that you know where to find me. Best wishes and thank you so much for the Trevor Corry article, Voceditenore (talk) 15:20, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Trevor Corry

Hi Voceditenore

Thank you for adding the photograph and for your very much appreciated encouragement.

You probably thought that my question about how to find a reply to my last query was a joke. I am embarrassed to say it was not although everyone I have told about it finds it very funny - actually I do too.

I am feeling pleased with myself for having edited the article to include the information you found from Bajer and Unger. I also managed to reference the changes.

I cannot however work out how to edit existing references. These are the changes that need to be made and I would be, once again, very grateful if you could do them for me:

To replace Ref 24 - History Today, volume:59, issue 7, 2009 by Richard Cavendish.

Ref 41 - add page number 325

Ref 43 add page number 30.

I have copies of the other newspapers quoted but unfortunately the page numbers are not shown.

With my best wishes,

West — Preceding unsigned comment added by West Marshall (talk • contribs) 15:09, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If a newspaper didn't have a printed page number, we could either count the pages manually or add a note saying something like "Original publication did not use page numbers"). Or both. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for working on that article.Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:16, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Correction

Oops! Sorry but I do not know the page number for Ref 43. It is not page 30.

Sorry, West — Preceding unsigned comment added by West Marshall (talk • contribs) 15:21, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Lyn Nelson

I saw your comment at ani. Despite your excellent cleanup so far, it remains supported only by thoroughly unreliable sources. I don't want to AfD it is you're still working on it. DGG ( talk ) 18:59, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DGG. No, I have no intention of trying to rescue it, or of adding any references. Coverage is largely marketing and press release-based sources discussing his work and him. I only cleaned it up because I didn't want that promotional drivel on Wikipedia in the interim. Today I've removed a few more unsupported "extraordinary" claims. A few years ago, I rescued Vladimir Kush (possibly the closest type of artist to Nelson on Wikipedia), but I was able to find sufficient independent sources covering not only him but his works in some depth + my impression was that it had been created by an admirer—not a PR agency. Having said that, Nelson might survive an AfD, given the exhibition at the Smithsonian which can be verified, and the fact that he did the cover art for the Beach Boys album Summer in Paradise. These sources are the best I could find: This verifies an exhibition at Lahaina Gallery in Hawaii and this one at some other galleries. This is an ad, but verifies the BB cover, "Painter Dives into 'Two Worlds' of the Oceans", Washington Times (March 31, 2001) verifies Smithsonian exhibition (press-release based though, and I note that the Washington Post had nothing to say about him or his art). This one shows one of his paintings as an illustration in Encyclopedia of Marine Mammals (Academic Press). This one from his hometown newspaper verifies some biographical information. This one verifies that he received a "local environmental hero" award. NOAA give out literally dozens every year. While he was VP, Gore used to pro forma sign all the award letters. Not quite what the WP article claimed: "United States Vice President, Al Gore, cited him an "Environmental Hero". Finally this one from Hawaii Business (February 1994) is very revealing:
"The result of his mid-day musings is today a $5 million art and publishing company known as Robert Lyn Nelson Studios, and one of the most widely recognized and profitable schools of popular art to come out of Hawaii. Nelson uses aggressive marketing—including infomercials and advertorials on Maui's visitor channels, ads in about a dozen print publications and on radio stations, and even a short documentary about his work and philosophies—to create demand for his paintings."
Perhaps change the lead to
"Robert Lyn Nelson (born 1965) is an American artist primarily known for his paintings of marine wildlife and aggressive marketing."
Just joking. Anyhow, I'm happy with whatever you decide. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I will do as you, and fix it a little. further. DGG ( talk ) 03:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi DGG. While we're on the subject... I'd appreciate your view on this article, recently accepted via AfC. It was created by a paid editor, who after this, this, this, etc. was strongly advised to go through AfC. I've copyedited it considerably, but in my view this may not pass WP:PROF. Several of the claims were/are rather inflated to enhance its qualification for acceptance. I imagine that the timing has do with the subject's forthcoming book. Voceditenore (talk) 06:12, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Redirecting static IP talk pages to user talk pages

You wrote ‘You cannot redirect an IP talk or user page to that of a registered user’.[13] Pourquoi pas? I've not had anyone tell me that before:

All of those contributions are my own.

And my current v4:

This is so that if I can't be bothered to log in/forget to log in/forget my password people can still get hold of me. — Nicholas (reply) @ 07:35, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Nicholas. Even though they are static now, they could be re-assigned at some point in the future which creates complications. If you don't want to miss messages to those IPs, simply put their talk pages on watch. If you want to keep a record of the IPs you've edited from, then simply state which IPs you've used on your current talk page. You can leave notes on the talk pages of each IP to the effect that you edited from that IP with a link to your talk page. There's no need for redirects. Voceditenore (talk) 06:34, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suzannah Lipscomb

Thank you for the addition you made to this page regarding education etc.

In fact she did go to Epsom College for sixth form, after Nonsuch from 11-16, and she is now a Governor at Epsom College. She is not just on the faculty of NCH but is Convenor for History as well as Senior Lecturer.

As you have felt able to add to this page (I didn't dare as another User deletes everything I put), and in view of the fact that it is being considered for deletion, I wonder if you would also be prepared to add more information as detailed by me and others on the deletion discussion page, e.g. her lecture tour of America in 2009, he award for All The King's Fools[1], her BBC History magazine talks both last year and this year at Malmesbury, her Chalke Valley History Festival talk in June this year.

Thank you.MdeBohun (talk) 09:45, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ "All The King's Fools".
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