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Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg

Hey, thanks for uploading this image. But I believe we can foster Wikipedia goal to promote free content even more if we produce a free alternative for this image. Do you know about someone with enough drawing skills to produce an equivalent diagram based on the information on this one (and the info on the article and it's sources)?

And according to our policy, we avoid any replaceable unfree material. But, of course, thanks again for the initiative to help. Keep on the good work. --Abu Badali 15:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Shock Sites

I saw your comment about the Shock Site page and its needing to be expanded but no one is able to. Every bit of information that is added is repeatedly deleted by the same administrator over and over again. He originally voted to have the entire page deleted. Shock Sites like Meatspin need your help. Please sign this Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Mangojuice Ciper 16:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Privacy

Please see this edit summary of mine. What you did was out of lines and what /b/ does shouldn't affect this. The pictures were not meant for public viewing. Also read WP:BLP. Yanksox 01:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Abigail and Brittany Hensel

I added a comment replying to your question. -Penwhale | Blast the Penwhale 13:44, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

hensel pic

The issue isn't who the picture is OF, but who owns it. If Ansel Adams takes a picture of Tom Cruies's car at the mall and you steal it and put it on wikipedia, it's Ansel Adams who has a right to get pissed off; Tom Cruise doesn't have anything to say about it. In this case, the Hensels owned the photo in question, so that was why they got to make the decision, not because it was a picture OF them.

see my comment on the hensel article talk page about the Life mag pic Faye Kane 03:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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re Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg

I have deleted this image because:

1. Although Life magazine no longer exists, the Time-Warner corporation certainly does, and holds the copyright.
2. This is, in my opinion, too much information for a fair use image. Fair use text may be quoted in small amounts to help illustrate, but may not be copied in in paragraph-size blocks to help create the substance of the article. In the same way, this image doesn't just illustrate, but forms a significant part of the substance to the article. This is why the magazine cover illustration may be fair use, but this image is not, in my opinion.
3. It would be very difficult to replace this with a free image, but not utterly impossible.

Sorry. If you think this image was deleted in error (which is certainly possible), you may take the issue to WP:DRV. Thank you for your work on the Wikipedia, cheers, Herostratus 05:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:No personal attacks

Hi. Please remember to avoid attacking the character of other contributors. This, for instance, is completely unacceptable. Jkelly 03:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

re Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg

I've restored the image, and listed it at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2007 January 31#:Image:Abigail brittney hensel twins.jpg. This page is seriously undermanned and I doubt that much useful discussion will be generated. If no resolution is reacherd here, I will feel duty-bound to delete the image as copyright violation, sorry. I do recognize your good intentions in trying to make the article the best it can be.

Basically, we don't use copyrighted material. Yes, an exception is made for for fair use images, but even that is made reluctantly and defined as narrowly as possible, and the Foundation would like to - and may, in the future - get away altogether from fair-use images.

And this is not a publicity photo that is given away for free to publicize someone (and even those generally are not allowed). This is a drawing that cost Time-Warner a lot of money I'm sure, and that they would most likely be unhappy to see passed around on the internet.

All this is because a bedrock principle of the Wikipedia is that any part of it may be re-used by any person for any reason at any time. This is considered by the Foundation to be more important then that the Wikipedia be of the highest possible quality. I recognize that deleting this image would detract from the article and therefore from the encyclopedia, but this is the policy of the Foundation, for good or ill. I myself find this maddening at times but you can't fight city hall.

As you say "It is quite impossible [to replace this with a free image], absent drawing one yourself". Well, we do have artists around. You can make a request at Wikipedia:Requested pictures, although of I do recognize that realistically this probably won't work. But I\if no volunteer artist can be found, and if a detailed anatomical drawing of the twins is deemed essential enough to the 'pedia, then the Foundation should commission one, and absent that we shouldn't steal Time-Warner's work.

Again, thanking you for your contributions, and sorry we have to butt heads over this... Herostratus

Talk:Abigail and Brittany Hensel

I have completely removed this section from this page; talk page guidelines require that all discussion remain focused on the article and not on the contributors thereto. Further, we must ask that you read and understand civility guidelines and avoid making personal attacks against other editors.

Finally, we point you to Wikipedia policy on the fair use of images and other media and where and how to use them. Many Wikipedia editors are working diligently—and, usually, correctly—to remove media that could potentially expose the project to legal action.

Thank you for understanding, and we hope you will take the time to read policies and guidelines, put in place to make us all better editors. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 15:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

violation of WP policy

you deleted my pic and, following WP policy to the letter, I had another admin undelete it and place it in the delete consideration list so others could comment on it first.

You then bypassed that process and deleted it directly from the consideration list mere hours after it had been placed there, not giving others a chance to comment.

please put it back per WP policy; that is what the image delete consideration list exists for.

What you did is the equivalent of being a judge who found someone guilty, then bursting into the courtroom during the appeals hearing shouting "guilty! guilty!" and ordering the guards to drag the accused back to his cell and that the hearing be stopped.

the proper thing to do would be to leave your MESSAGE about why you think the image should be deleted, not unilaterally disrupt and destroy the deletion review process.

please respond on my user talk. note that "I think the image should be deleted" is insufficient response, as it ignores the issue under discussion. The issue under discussion is that the delete consideration list is the WP procedure for appealing a deletion, and you have disrupted that procedure.
Sys Hax 17:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Please, understand I'm not (and had never been) and Admin, and have no power to delete (or undelete) any image. Btw, thanks for writing a whole message void of personal attacks.--Abu badali ^(talk) 19:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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Do not allow incorrect grammar to stand on any policy page where you find it. (Thanks for fixing it!) —Doug Bell talk 08:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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You have been blocked for 24 hours for incivility. Please take a break. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 18:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

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"Bowdlerizing Luddites", external links, and leaving Wikipedia

You wrote: I used to be excited about WP, but not any more; I have all but quit editing. You say WP is not a democracy. Right. It is a dictatorship of the few, and something I choose not to participate in anymore. Only when people aim their attention at providing informational content for wikipedia instead of erasing and destroying it because it gives them a rush, will wikipedia be truly generally useful. As it is now, WP is being destroyed from within.

Faye, I understand your frustration with the process and rules that govern Wikipedia. However, you have to take into account the fact that Wikipedia isn't just a little website published by some guy in his basement. It's high-profile, and is getting more so every day. We must take all necessary steps to make sure it is in line with copyright law, and those who work on that are generally seen as helping Wikipedia. It may appear that those, like the Abu you mentioned, are on some sort of power trip, but I can all but assure you that they are not (well, some people are, and that's truly a shame, but most really are trying to help the enyclopedia). "Fair use" has its basis in law, and those images that really do not qualify as fair use need to be removed, or else the existence of the project is put in jeopardy. What we really need, in order to make Wikipedia better, is a group of qualified individuals willing to create necessary illustrations (as well as individuals ready to take professional-quality photographs of hard-to-capture subjects like celebrities). That's a major limitation we have, being non-profit, that we can't pay people to do what a paper encyclopedia would. That doesn't mean we can just "steal" the work of others to make up for it, though. Aside from media we're granted the right to include, we have to follow fair use very carefully.

Now for the video external link; I've argued for its exclusion, although I haven't removed it again. It does appear to have some use, as there are some clips from it, although I don't see that it is terribly useful. I'm actually not all that fond of external links in general, as they direct readers elsewhere, when the purpose of an encyclopedia article is to try to sum up the available knowledge in one place.

That said, I ask you not to stop editing Wikipedia. You obviously have a desire to see it bettered, and I'm sure you can help in doing that. The attrition rate is pretty high these days, with people getting fed up with working within the constraints of policy, but you can still do a lot within those boundaries. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 14:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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Unspecified source for Image:Ld02.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Ld02.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self-no-disclaimers}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 21:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Abu badali ^(talk) 21:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, TechnoFaye. You tagged the above mentioned image as a movie poster, but still described it as a studio still. Could you check this little discrepancy? Also, consider adding some sort of verifiable source information to it. Let me know if I can be of any help. Best regards, --Abu badali ^(talk) 21:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Tt3.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Tt3.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self-no-disclaimers}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Fair use, use a tag such as {{Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 21:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Abu badali ^(talk) 21:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

When and where was this image released as promotional material? Thanks, --Abu badali ^(talk) 21:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration re: Abu badali

Hi. I am writing you because you were one of the respondants on the RfC about Abu badali that was started back in November. There has been no substantive comment there for over a month and User:Abu badali has never bothered to respond to the RfC. The last comment on the talk page of the RfC was a suggestion to take it to arbitration, which is what I propose we do. Accordingly, I have created a shell/draft listing to add to the list of Arbitration Committee matters here. I've listed your new there, preliminarily, as a complaintant. If you are not interested in participating, please remove your name. If you are, please add your comments as we must prepare a 500 word summary of the case. Thanks for your attention - Jord 15:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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I struck out your additional endorsement on the RfC

Here, because you've moved user accounts you should only be voting/endorsing once on any given subject. SeeWP:MEATPUPPET#Voting_and_other_shows_of_support. I'm sure it was a mistake, so feel free to remove the endorsement yourself. Cheers. Megapixie 03:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Nonsense

Regarding this edit. Don't talk nonsense. You might not agree with Abu Badali (and Wikipedia:Fair use criteria but that he does it because he thinks it's funny or deliberately fooling new editots, is nonsense. And that's besides the fact that it's not so clear regarding this site if it is public domain or not. Garion96 (talk) 18:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Please also read Wikipedia:Canvassing and stop contacting every user who has/has an image tag placed by Abu Badali. Garion96 (talk) 18:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I blocked you for 24 hours for vote/rfc spamming. Garion96 (talk) 18:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi! I am relatively a new user and I have no problems with User:Abu badali. So I will stay away from the RfC. Thanks for your understanding, and the comment too :)--Scheibenzahl 18:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Abu badali is a symptom not the disease

I recently read your post to my talk page about User:Abu badali, while yes his tone is designed to be divisive and as off-putting as the pictures he likes to place on his userpage - he is not the real problem. The real problem is that wikipedia's standards on photos are in flux. There is a division between people like him who view the standards with an exceedingly legalistic sense, and others like me who hold that such things as the fair use clause on illustrating a subject are far wider than the other camp maintains.

This became apparent to me when I had a photo of a mid-level Bolivian minister who took up a job at the world bank deleted. Though there is no free image of this person anywhere and the photo was a promotional photo by the world bank the person calling for its deletion (who was not Abu badali) pointed out that it was humanly possible for someone sometime to get a photo of this person and so it was deleted. This seems bizarre to me as the only way a person could get such photos is to break the law and stalk these people with a high powered camera. The camp of the deletors is not limited to Abu badali and unless some more definite standard is formed this struggle will continue. Wikipedia's sister Wikinews now prevents any uploading of non-free images and bans any citing fair-use and it may be that Wikipedia will go that route.

I believe that if there are fewer images on its pages fewer people will use Wikipedia. The net is a visual medium and people like to have images to illustrate subjects. It is unfortunate that Abu badali takes such perverse glee in his actions against photos but he is covered by the current flux concerning what photos are acceptable and what are not. Moving against him personally seems pointless to me as he can argue for his interpretation of the rules and there is a camp of people that might well rally to that. More importantly the amount of glee that he obviously derives from this indicates that even if he is banned and his IP is blocked he'll just get a new ISP and a new username to continue to get his jollys in this manner. Unless the standards on photos are declared more explicitly not only will banning him not insure others of his camp don't continue his crusade, but it will only be a temporary nuisance to him and he'll just log on with a different name from a different Internet provider or a coffee shop, library, workplace, or school. This is because deleting photos from articles and seeing people's reactions is what gets him off. Only by arguing for a clearer standard can these kind of conflicts be ended altogether.

--Wowaconia 21:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:My image deletion problem

Hi,

Thank you very nuch for your kind message. I appreciate the moral support. But I think that in my case Abu badali did do his homework at least insofar as obtaining license restrictions in pdf from the parties involved etc. He has a few not so smooth edges such as a tendency to copy and paste message sections from his page to other pages. Plus he has a rather unusual user page with controversial imagery and captions. Aside from that however he has exhibited understanding of the issues involved and although he sticks to a very narrow interpretation of the fair use criteria he doesn't have the power to delete images. Administrators do that. In the discussion page of the last unfortunate casualty Chandrasekhar.gif you can see that apart from Mangojuice noone came to the defence of the image. As I mentioned in that talk page I did not want to defend a few kilobytes of image real estate alone. I meant that in the current climate of flux there is no concerted effort from users to defend images candidates for deletion by joining in the conversation and defending an image. Abu badali is not responsible for that. He chose to do a job. The optics may not be that particularly good but he does his job as best as he can. Now if we can create a big discussion around a few of these images and a consensus emerges to keep them, there comes salvation in terms of precedent. Maybe administrators can then be persuaded not to delete these images. The worst I can say about Abu badali is that he is a zealot with a mission. But he is a zealot that has a message and uses research to sustain it. He is a thinking and intelligent zealot. Only when we can develop better counter arguments and band closer together to defend each others' images, we can hope of some type of change for the better. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify this. Take care and let me know about any future developments. Tasos (Dr.K. 00:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC))

More on Badali

On your post to my user page you wrote that people crusading against photos was why you and many others "have ceased contributing to Wikipedia". Please count me among those disillusioned with Wikipedia as well. For me it wasn't just this photo thing, though that kind of tops it off. Originally I had envisioned Wikipedia as someday being the most complete collection of human knowledge anywhere, but I am sadly over that now.

One of the biggest criticism against wikipedia is its lack of depth. For example articles on Clinton or Bush barely even mention that they were governors, much less layout the achievements or set backs of those major years in their political career. I thought I'd work to change this lack of depth by starting with Federal politicians from my own state. I expand sections and then for length concerns moved sections to their own sub-pages with links from the main article. But bizarrely these pages were attacked as having too much information (as if people clicking on links that say "for more details see" didn't actually want more details). Someone then called for there deletion and a handful of editors who bothered to vote, got the pages deleted. Wikipedia's own policy seemed to be calling for more information (see WP:NOTPAPER) but instead of expanding articles about other politicians (that are little more then stubs elsewhere) articles with depth are criticized for being abnormal and then edited or deleted back into being shallow tripe that would be well suited for the back of a box of Lucky Charms sugary cereal, or the inside of a bubble gum wrapper.

As I write this USER:Badali (you keep calling him Bidali but its obvious he chose Badali as a pun for Bad Ally) is zapping photos on a page I contributed of a national politician that were taken when he was in the state legislature. I just don't have the energy to fight and point out that these photos are important to illustrate the subject and aren't repeatable because they represent his past career (which is obviously unrepeatable).

In fact I am sorry to say that I know full well that wikipedia's use will decline with fewer photos; and as I am now feeling highly jaded towards the project - I wish Badali all the best on his crusade to rip the visual guts out of Wikipedia. Perhaps some future incarnation of an online encyclopedia will do better, there is already Citizendium (at http://citizendium.org/) though I haven't checked it out. So as Badali and his ilk perversely excite themselves over how much outrage they can invoke as they drive a stake into the heart of Wikipedia - in my eyes its not like a mad werewolf ripping into your favorite college professor, its like a werewolf sinking his teeth into Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde. I really don't care who wins - hopefully they'll kill each other. As for me I'm going to be flipping the channels, occasionally tuning in during commercial breaks but not keeping up with what's really going on.

I already knew that the world has plenty of self-important people that are devoid of common sense but full of personality problems. Wikipedia just showed me that there is a lot more of them than I anticipated and in numbers large enough to form a great wall. I've got better things to do then bang my head against that wall.

I thank you for your comments and count you as among the people I've run into in this project that prove that humanity isn't just a collection of ill mannered jack-asses.

--Wowaconia 19:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Chandra images

You said:No, Badili was NOT right, he was WRONG. NASA images can be used by anyone, anytime for any reason, period. And someone who makes it his business to delete images should know that, as should his apologists. The reason the permission request form is on that site is NOT for Chandra images such as the one in question, but for other, non-NASA images on that site (and yes, Chandra IS run by NASA). How do I know all this? Because I asked the person who put the permission form on that site, Kathy Lestition <kathy@head.cfa.harvard.edu>, and I would be extremely happy to forward her email saying so to anyone who gives a damn about keeping images in wikipedia -- if there are any such editors who have not quit in disgust yet. That leaves ME out, since I quit because of Badali, as have the ex-editors who emailed me. Badali and the rest of you Bowdlerizing Luddites can wallow in this increasingly-useless playpen by yourselves. TechnoFaye 20:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, TechnoFaye, Chandra images are generally the one exception with regards to NASA images. There is something somewhere on Wikipedia that explains this, but I don't know where that might be.

Additional: I might actually be thinking of something else, not Chandra, but the NASA policy is clear; "NASA material is not protected by copyright unless noted. If copyrighted, permission should be obtained from the copyright owner prior to use. If not copyrighted, NASA material may be reproduced and distributed without further permission from NASA." Since there is a permission request form, the images are copyrighted, and therefore cannot be used without permission.

Now, if you requested permission to use Chandra images on Wikipedia, and permission was granted, then that's another issue entirely--there's actually a place you are supposed to forward such e-mails to, in order to get that permission to be properly recognized by Wikimedia, so that there aren't any problems with users not "believing" that permission has been granted. See Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for instructions on the proper way to ask for permission (the copyright holder needs to understand and consent to the GFDL), and for the place to forward the request and the response to. It's a bit of red tape, but once it's done, there should be no further trouble. Lexicon (talk) 21:03, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

One further point: While your request, as it was formulated, may have received a grant of permission, you likely did not request permission that the images be licenced under the GFDL. The GFDL is quite a wide licence, and allows anyone coming to Wikipedia (including, but not limited to, the numerous for-profit mirrors of Wikipedia) to use the licenced content for commercial purposes. I wish you good luck in getting Chandra to confirm licencing of content through the GFDL. Lexicon (talk) 21:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Ms. Lestition has informed me that she does not think she would have said what you are claiming that she said in the permission request you made to her. If you could, please forward her reply to me (you can use the E-mail this user link on my talk or user page). Thanks. Lexicon (talk) 21:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

HEY BADALI: You omitted the last chapter of the above discussion on this show-off page of yours (no doubt unintentionally). I sent Lexicon the full email I received from the observatory. It states unequivocally that NASA images are public-domain. Unlike yourself, Lexicon seems to have a genuine interest in the issue of image use, as opposed to merely disrupting WP, and so Lexicon has changed his mind (below):

Abu badali, I have confirmed that Chandra images, if not tagged on the site as including information from ground-based telescopes which are not under the control of NASA, are, in fact, completely public domain for all purposes, including commercial, so long as NASA-endorsement is not implied through their use (which is actually a completely different issue from use). If you have listed Chandra images for deletion, could you let me know what they were, so I might look up and find out if they truly are fair use? Thanks. Lexicon (talk) 23:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I fully expect you to delete this refutation, but leave the previous entries intact.

PS: you will never approach the Übermensch destroying the works of others. That is an activity of the rabble, Nietzsche's bane. And don't EVEN think of tagging images under another name after you've been permanently banned, an outcome you so richly deserve. TechnoFaye 01:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Abu badali. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Abu badali/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Abu badali/Workshop.

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I've unblocked you but you are not entitled to edit anything at all except this page Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Abu badali. I hope it is clear. -- FayssalF - ^{Wiki me up®} 16:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Abu badali closed

This arbitration case is closed and the decision has been published at the above link. Abu badali (talk · contribs) is counselled to be more patient and diplomatic with users who question his tagging of images and to work with them in a collaborative way. For the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 16:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

A Caution

Calling another editor a "fuck-up" and comparing them to the Taliban could lead to you being blocked for incivility and personal attacks. I understand that you and PU are unhappy with the Arbcom outcome, but you are just giving people ammunition to use against you and it really isn't in your best interest to do that... unless you are looking to get blocked.--Isotope23 ^talk 23:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Another Caution

I have reverted the personal attack you left here. I will tell you what I told PageantUpdater: These incivil personal attacks will not help your cause and can only lead to you being blocked. In light of the message just above this one, you should consider this a final warning. -- But|seriously|folks  01:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I would caution Butseriouslyfolks to seriously consider the fine line between policing WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL and censoring the opinions of others and basically removing their right to disagree with the status quo. I appreciate that a community like this needs policies and guidelines but the right to free speech should also be considered. I'm not saying that i necessarily agree with all of TechnoFaye's comments... but I am concerned about the way that cautions and blocks are being used to effectively shut people up. PageantUpdater talk • contribs 01:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I hate to be the bearer of bad news... but you have no inherent right to free speech here PageantUpdater; I can tell you why on my talkpage if you are interested in specifics. That said, I'm not trying to shut anyone up. My caution was just what I said it was... a caution. TechnoFaye is absolutely free to take my advice or ignore me and delete my posts unread if she so chooses. All I'm saying is that there is a right way to disagree and a wrong way. I simply say this as someone who has been around here for a while: the wrong way tends to get a person blocked.--Isotope23 ^talk 01:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

If there is no inherent right to free speech then that is damning and yet another reason why this place is shot to hell. Why oh why did I get addicted to editing here? If people don't have the right to say what they really feel, and if they get blocked for expressing themselves candidly then this place will only get worse, not better. We really are in a North Korea or Zimbabwe-type situation here. PageantUpdater talk • contribs 02:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Well you see what's going on around here, pagent. My comments were to YOU on YOUR talk page. I didn't mention violence or use any "bad" words. If this were a "real" organization, they could never get away with it, at least not in the US. But it's virtual. It's just like red china, where they said "assuming we think we're right, why should we let people say we're wrong"? You wanna know how dictatorships happen? Not by someone saying "I think I'll do evil", it's by people saying "I want what I think is best and I don;t care if other people think something else is best. I have power and I am going to use it to suppress the people who don;t agree with me" That seems 'perfectly reasonable' to a certain kind of ethical lowlife.

Now watch me get banned for saying this.TechnoFaye Kane 04:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I don't want to see either of you get banned or blocked... hence the caution; If I wanted to see you blocked I would have just blocked you. Beyond that, the fact that Wikipedia is based in the U.S. is precisely why you don't have an inherent right to free speech in the respect that you can say whatever you want, whenever you want, about whomever you want to. I won't bore you with a civics lesson, but suffice to say that lots of "real" organizations "get away with it" every day... If you want to write a whole page on who unfair the decision was, that is your prerogative, but comparing other editors to the Taliban, even implicitly, probably will not end well. Lest you think I'm here to harangue you, this is the last you will hear from me about this. I'm sure you are both more than capable of making your own decisions how to proceed here. Regards, --Isotope23 ^talk 13:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

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Comments on Talk:Little Darlings

Hey, your comments on Talk:Little Darlings seemed a bit bitey and uncivil. Please remember to comment on the content not on the editor. Comments like "your a pervert" don't really help anything in a dispute. All it can lead to is a downward spiral where everyone ends up calling each other names. -- Nn123645 (talk) 20:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I really don't appreciate the personal attack request you rephrase per WP:NPA. I asked for the third eye rather than do a hasty revert. I'm not the first editor to point out the nature of the image, see the image's own talk page.Lkleinow (talk) 23:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

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Image:Xraybad.gif copyright status

Hello,

You uploaded Image:Xraybad.gif in February 2008 stating yourself as the author of the image. The same image, however, is found on page six of Nancy Leveson's paper on the Therac-25 [1]. I am assuming the work to be copyrighted, which would qualify the media for speedy deletion. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Cool Looking Name

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Hensel twins again

"also, filmoraphy IS complete as of 11/24/08"

What unreliable source deceived you? Moreover, what made you think the comment following the {{Expand list}} tag had nothing to do with the {{Expand list}} tag? -- Smjg (talk) 02:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

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re: edit

I don't trust any edit with this edit summary. It has been reverted. I note this sort of summary is not unique in your recent edit history. This is not remotely acceptable. Further behavior of this sort may result in you being temporarily blocked from editing the site. - BanyanTree 12:15, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Policy, not politics, in particular WP:CIVILITY and Wikipedia:No personal attacks. You are also mistaken about "a guy using this article as an adverticing billboard". A decent portion of the content you're removing is from my starting version, so you're not telling the owner of Ben's Chili Bowl "FUCK YOU!", you're telling that to me. If you're a man of conviction you'll tell me that to my face. I, being a Wikipedia administrator of conviction, would then be obliged to block you for a blatant personal attack after a previous warning.

It's probable that the current version of Half-smoke needs revision, but you used up all your credibility and AGF-points at "Hey Ben: FUCK YOU!" so you'll understand if you have none with which to bargain. You now have to avoid removing cited content and actually explain and discuss controversial edits on the article talk page. Or you could walk away from the article. - BanyanTree 08:15, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Or you could make wild accusations in your edit summary as you revert... In any case, I officially warn: If you continue to remove cited content you will be blocked. - BanyanTree 09:36, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

User talk:BanyanTree

Your most recent comment on User talk:BanyanTree is at best, unhelpful, at worst an attempted WP:OUTING. BanyanTree is a valued adminstrator and content contributor. He has not continued to edit the two articles in question in an attempt to avoid increasing his own stress level. Continuing to needle him is unproductive and unhelpful, and very disruptive. I have removed your comments - please do not reinsert them. Please do your best to avoid BanyanTree in the future. Thanks. Hipocrite (talk) 22:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

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Hey. Thanks for your input at mediation. It took courage to say that, and I agree with you. There's currently a poll about whether the article is focused on the data, or padded out with the 'apologia' as you put it, or split into two (?). I would encourage you to vote. mikemikev (talk) 22:24, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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hey Faye, with respect to this edit: I'm trying to keep discussions specific to different sections, otherwise things start to get confusing. could you try to to focus your comments more? for instance, the first paragraph your wrote was fine - it focused on the issue of whether a single editor model would work - but after that it started to move into other points that are better dealt with in other sections. see what I mean? --Ludwigs2 09:07, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

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Race and Intelligence

could you do me a favor, please, and tone back some of your statements? phrases like 'which is crypto for...', 'embarrassing handwaving', 'explaining it all away with silly explanations ', 'whites are stupider than Asians...' put people off, and it would help things move along if you were a bit more politic. I'm not suggesting you change what you're saying, mind you; I'm just asking if you can say it in a less 'in your face' kind of way. --Ludwigs2 17:07, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

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race and intelligence mediation

Hey faye,

I've been trying not to interfere with the page too much, partly because you seem to be suspicious of my actions, but I need to ask three things of you:

1. please try to keep your posts short and concise - those long, long posts that try to cover everything are difficult to take in all at once; it's easier if you handle one issue at a time.
2. please refrain from attacking slrubenstein. I do understand that there's some tension there, but berating him is only going to make things worse, and what we are trying to do here is make things better.
3. please try to talk with the other participants. when you make these long posts in separate sections it's impossible to build a discussion. talk with them and try to build something you can all agree on

is that ok? --Ludwigs2 03:44, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

just as an aside, have you ever heard of HAI? I think you might mix well with the group, if they are in your area - good people. --Ludwigs2 18:57, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

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WQA

I have posted a thread concerning you at WQA. Wapondaponda (talk) 10:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Faye, you are being discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Incivility by User:TechnoFaye. You should have been alerted of this sooner.

Please stop using uncivil language in your discussion of the Race and intelligence mediation. Wikipedia does not allow "racial, ethnic, sexual and religious slurs, and derogatory references to groups such as social classes or nationalities," and if you are unwilling to adhere to this you will be blocked. Rant and rave all you like on MySpace, but we have this policy to avoid having the hostile and poisonous atmosphere so common on the rest of the internet. We're here to collaboratively build an encyclopedia, not to score points off each other or to make derogatory comments about people.

By all means argue that reliable sources say that the average IQ of black populations is lower than other populations (why that is is another matter), but equating this to 'Blacks are stupid' is not going to help us to write an article and is only inflammatory. If you were saying 'People with Down Syndrome are stupid' I'd be giving you exactly the same warning. Fences&Windows 02:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

May I suggest you look at the context the question was asked in before accusing editors of making derogatory comments. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 02:39, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

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archiving your talk page

Faye, if you add the following code to the top of your talk page (before the first section), Mizsabot will automatically archive your old material:

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The first template controls the auto-archiving; you can read the details at User:MiszaBot/Archive_HowTo. the second template is a box for accessing the archives once they are set up. just thought this might be useful.

whoa nelly

re: this and similar. I'm trying to work with you Faye, and don't appreciate getting my hand bit for it. Please note that I will be keeping a very close eye on the mediation discussion for a while, so try to practice the things we've talked about in previous exchanges above (keeping your answers short and to the point, avoiding personal attacks on other editors, and etc.). thanks. --Ludwigs2 14:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Cheers

Hi Faye.

I think Mathsci's obviously biased noisemaking won't have much effect. He appears to be arguing that mediation is compromised because the article has been slightly vandalised. I very much doubt this will wash.

If anything it's had the opposite effect of spurring Ludwig into a 'no more Mr. Nice Guy' mode, which will help cut through the nonsense and hasten the inevitable implementation of the factual rather than PC article.

Incidentally, may I take this opportunity to thank you for your invaluable input. Your courageous ultra-straightalking approach is a perfect counterweight to expose the ultra-PC crowd, and allowed the formation of a more middle-ground plan, which I think is the way to go.

Also your style provides many LOL's.

Hope you stay involved.

Mike. mikemikev (talk) 08:49, 26 March 2010 (UTC)