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DYKs, etc

On 2 June, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cumberland Valley Railroad, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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On August 6, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Richard Leroy Walters, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Barnstars, etc.

The tulip Barnstar for hard work and diligence on the tulip mania article, now Featured. --JayHenry (talk) 05:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

You have earned this 1956 Hungarian Revolution Barnstar István (talk) 05:45, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

		The Content Creativity Barnstar
		Nice work on Richard Leroy Walters. You got an excellent article up in just a little over one day. Nicely done! LK (talk) 08:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Indeed it is a nicely written article, I never knew :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		For dutifully photographing just about everything in the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania, as well as for the many photos of various sites on the National Register of Historic Places. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 00:22, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

		The Liberty Star
		for many outstanding contributions to Philadelphia articles, including both images and information.DThomsen8 (talk) 15:15, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		Great photos! Dincher (talk) 20:22, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

		Archives of American Art Barnstar
		Smallbones - Thank you for your participation in the Archives of American Art Backstage Pass and your contributions to the articles about the 1913 Armory Show! We look forward to your continuous contributions and value your work about American art history. SarahStierch (talk) 13:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	Awarded for tying with User:Ammodramus in the Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest for adding the most photographs to National Historic Landmarks. Congrats! ‖ Ebyabe talk - Inspector General ‖ 15:33, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Smallbones has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, so I've officially declared today as Smallbones's Day! For being a great person and awesome Wikipedian, enjoy being the star of the day, Smallbones! Signed, Neutralhomer A record of your Day will always be kept here.

		Mind the Gap Award
		For your great work at creating the beautiful Lady Lilith article. I was torn between giving you an art barnstar or this award, but, I decided on this one! Not only for your great article, but your kindness, humor and knowledge related to women's history and culture on and beyond Wikipedia. Thank you for bringing "equality" and great content to Wikipedia, Smallbones! SarahStierch (talk) 21:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

		The Special Barnstar
		Excellent work putting that image map into Lady Lilith. Thanks for taking the time to figure out how to do that and for not being offended when I started messing around with your new article. Yworo (talk) 02:42, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

		<font=3> National Register of Historic Places: Iconic 20th century architecture Honourable Mention given to Smallbones for having your photo File:FLW Beth Sholom exterior.jpg (right) selected as the honorable mention in the 2011 contest. Congratulations! --Elekhh (talk) 03:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		for the great photo of the Cowboy, the only full size work by Remington Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 15:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

		<font=3> National Register of Historic Places Best Photo Barnstar given with respect and admiration to Smallbones for having your photo File:Dyerstown HD BucksCo PA.jpg (right) selected as the honorable mention in the 2011 contest, and for organizing the contest in the first place. Keep up the great work! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

		The Christianity Barnstar
		Thanks for all your contributions to the Thanksgiving article! Keep up the good work! With regards, AnupamTalk 02:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Photos folks have dropped off on this page

Feel free to add more

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  Fort Pitt Tunnel Westbound
• William Penn Hotel
  William Penn Hotel
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  Ben Franklin Hotel
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  Hotel Syracuse
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  Knabb-Bieber Mill
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  Clemuel Ricketts House (HABS)
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  Whitney Mansion, in Gloucester County
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  Zimmerman Kame overhead
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  Lava Lamp Factory, 1650 Irving Park
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  Hyner Run State Park latrine
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  High Bridge Reformed Church, Hunterdon County
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  Trail Ridge Road
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  Seth Kinman
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  Eureka's Pink Lady
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Shawmont station

I took quick look in LexisNexis and found a mention of the Shawmont station in an article in the The Inquirer. It did repeat the claim of being the oldest train station. Also found a snippet of an article on the station in a newspaper for Roxborough (a Philadelphia library might have a copy archived). If you had the time, you could see about contacting the people at SEPTA, perhaps there's a historian among them that would have access to some material you might not be able to acquire.

By the way, congrats on finally finish illustrating the Philly lists. Hopefully, there won't be a bunch of a new listings this week ;-) ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 23:05, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Public Art Philadelphia

(commenting before User:SarahStierch since she is still jet lagged from all her travels) check out

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Public art/Projects;
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Public art/Get started;
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Public art/SOS to Wikipedia process.

there is not yet a philadelphia task force, but you may have nominated yourself. the list (i.e. like List of public art in Washington, D.C., Ward 2) was generated from siris datebase. [1]. don't know how familiar you are with spreadsheet to table work is but that's how it's done. i did start one article Benjamin Franklin (Boyle). Slowking4 (talk) 15:55, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

the power of the wiki is that how much or little you do, it grows and grows. 900 bah, here we knocked down a 60,000 BLP backlog in a year, and there is are 253,000 articles without references. just do one, you'll find it fun. the power of the list is that it gives a roadmap, and others like BoringHistoryGuy come along and help. (you could also create the project and move on to better things like Sarah) ;> the Public Art project give you a process. look at an existing article, and the templates in there. the pictures in the database are too hard to use, you would have to get permission from the surveyor (copyright status unclear). easier to do a photo survey ourselves. the siris database is a fine reference, but snapshot, needs updating. however, be careful: if work before 1923, then public domain upload into commons; if 1923 and after, then fair use upload into wiki english and create stub article within a week. GPS you can find sometimes from photo in commons, waypoints.com, dcmemorials.com (google search) or use geolocater [2], not necessary, but makes article more useful for mobile users. lot's to digest, take it slow and steady. Slowking4 (talk) 15:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

good job on the Philadelphia list, i went and fixed the references a little, i believe the sos database is stable for now although an id number search url should be best. (hope you don't mind), i started a spreadsheet alphabetically, up to the B's (offline) i note you have one after 1923, which will have to be put in en.wikipedia with a Template:Non-free 3D art and rationale; the others will need a Template:PD-US for the statue as well as your photo license since it is a derivative work. Slowking4 (talk) 20:43, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

status? i would say move the short list to article space, and build artwork articles. here is my list fwiw: User:Slowking4/list of philadelphia public art; if you don't mind, i'm going to move your list to article space. it'll get you entered into the AAA prize contest. Slowking4: 7@1|x 14:35, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

ok, hope you don't mind the cut paste article: List of public art in Philadelphia, wanted to keep your rough draft. Slowking4: 7@1|x 16:38, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Picture requests

Sorry I didn't get back to you this week. Only had little time to focus on Wikipedia the past week. Thanks for getting pictures whenever you have a chance. The most important picture for all of the below is on that shows the entire building. (either from a distance or looking up at it from the street). If you can't get a picture of the entire building, please try to take a picture of the structure's top portion instead. You can get building's architectural details of any building if you like. Dont worry nothing I need in N. Philly (unless you want to take some nice pics of the Carl Mackey Houses :))

The list below are the ones i feel are a priority because we dont have good picture of them at all.

• PNC Bank Building at the corner of 16th and Market Street.
• Centre Square complex between 15th and 16th streets. If you can get a picture of plaza in front as well that would be great.
• 2000 Market Street at 20th and Market Street. (Across from the Commerce Center twin towers)
• 1700 Market at corner of Market and 17th
• 1835 Market Street at 19th and Market streets.
• Wells Fargo Building (Philadelphia) between Sansom and Walnut Streets on Broad Street.
• One Logan Square at the block between Logan Square and Cherry Street and 18th and 19th Street.

These below I consider nice to have because we have reasonable illustrations already.

• Liberty Place pictures of both building's together and clearly would be nice. Also would like a picture of the Westin Hotel below the Liberty Place towers. (corner of Chestnut Street and 17th street.)
• The Residences at The Ritz-Carlton (Philadelphia) at the corner of South Penn Square and 15th Street. I would love a picture of the firefighter's memorial in the plaza at the base of the building.
• The St. James between 7th and 8th street on Walnut Street.
• Five Penn Center opposite of PNC Bank Building on 16th and Market Street.
• Two Logan Square between Arch and Cherry Street on N 18th.

Thanks for any help you can give for the Philadelphia skyscraper project! Medvedenko (talk) 15:49, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

DC NRHP list

Hi Smallbones ... I have a list of NRHPs in NW DC in my user space from a couple of months ago when I put a ton of work into assigning them to neighborhoods. But that's all I have. Feel free to use it if it'll help. I had intended to one day return to the NW list to try and break it up, but haven't gotten to it yet. Let me know if you need help with it. I've got a method for renumbering the rows in these tables that's quicker and less error-prone than doing it row by row. It pays off in cases where I need to renumber more than about 15 or 20 rows. Regards, --sanfranman59 (talk) 07:18, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

It's a bit difficult to explain my method for renumbering the tables. It involves copying the text into a spreadsheet, manipulating the data there and then pasting it back into the Wikipedia editor. When you've got the DC lists the way you want them, let me know and I'll do the renumbering for you.

Re the White House, Capitol, and Supreme Court, I've emailed Edson Beall at the NPS several times trying to get an answer to why these buildings are NHLs but are not in the NRIS database and he's never answered me. Edson is the contact given in the weekly announcements of new listings and he's always been responsive to other inquiries. I don't know why he's never answered that one. Perhaps he doesn't know (doesn't want to say so) or perhaps it's a more complicated explanation than he wants to take the time to explain in an email. In my opinion, unless the sites are listed in the NRIS database, I'm disinclined to include them in our NRHP tables since the NRIS is our primary source. It's probably worth adding something to the text that accompanies the DC NRHP tables pointing out that these buildings are NHLs but are not in the NRIS. If we ever get an explanation for why, that could be added as well.

Thanks for your efforts at improving the DC lists. They definitely needed some work and it sure would be nice if the pages related to our nation's capital were of FL quality. Do you live in that area? I lived in Arlington and Fairfax for about 5 years before relocating to San Francisco in '96. --sanfranman59 (talk) 20:33, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Sb ... Have you finished your work on the DC lists? I'm asking because I see that the NW quadrant list is still out there and there's a lot of duplication between that list and the central DC, western DC and upper NW quadrant lists. But there are 400+ listings in these lists while there are only 388 in the old NW quadrant list.

Also, there are asterisks in the row number column, but there's no footnote or anything to indicate what the asterisks mean.

What's the scoop? --sanfranman59 (talk) 18:15, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm ... I really don't like the idea of losing the history. But I don't know what the solution would be at this point. I vaguely recall reading that it's possible for certain WP power users/admins to copy histories from one article to another. Does that ring a bell with you?

I don't think you should feel pressured to pull everything together by a certain date ... after all, we do this for fun, right? Would it make sense to move the new lists into your user space until you've finished with them and return National Register of Historic Places listings in Washington, D.C. to its previous state?

Why is it that there are so many more listings in the new lists than there are in the NW quadrant list? --sanfranman59 (talk) 19:06, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi again SB ... just checking on the status of the DC lists. A new listing in NW was announced on Friday (the Congressional Club) and I've added it to the upper NW quadrant list. I was going to update the row numbering, but the Civil War Monuments row has ** in the row number column. I don't see a note anywhere to indicate what that means. Can you explain?

Also, what do you have in mind to do with the old NW quadrant list? I don't think we should leave it out here if it's now obsolete. You mentioned previously about not wanting to lose the history of that page and I agree that wouldn't be the best thing. Perhaps we could first temporarily move the new upper NW quadrant list to user space. Then move the old NW list to an article with the same name as the new upper NW quadrant list. Then copy the version that was moved to user space into the new article again. I think that would retain all of the history of the old list, but we'd lose the history of the new list. That's not a perfect solution, but I think if we're going to lose some of the history, it's better to lose the last two months vs. losing 2 1/2 years of the old list. What do you think? --sanfranman59 (talk) 08:45, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

One could try a WP:HISTMERGE. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 14:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

or do a redirect, or use as a disambig page. Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I've put in a request at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Smallbones (talk) 19:09, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

and got turned down flat for help. So I did a redirect from the old NW quadrant article to the main DC article, put "copied from tags" on the three new NW quadrant articles. History saved, sites all renumbered. Thanks all. Smallbones (talk) 02:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Building 170

Just wondering but would it be appropriate to add Building 170 to the DC NRHP list? --Kumioko (talk) 20:34, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you just wondering if you had any thoughts on this one yet. Also, There are separate articles for Navy Yard, Washington, D.C. and Washington Navy Yard. Shouldn't we merge these two articles? --Kumioko (talk) 00:18, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I see what your saying about the Navy yard article but we also have the article Capitol Riverfront and Yards park which seems to do what your describing and also has a lot of duplicate information. --Kumioko (talk)

Sounds like a good plan thanks. --Kumioko (talk) 02:17, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

i take it, it is a contributing property, but not on the list? Slowking4: 7@1|x 14:44, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Phila public art coords

good catch on Dickens and Little Nell (Elwell), i copied from photo which was wrong. when i zoom in i don't see the statue though maybe a winter photo will show. i will iterate if missing, need to double check existing also. Slowking4: 7@1|x 14:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

you have sharper eyes than me, btw, i responded at Talk:Railroad Retirement Board Building. dunno if that clarifies. Slowking4: 7@1|x 18:14, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Girls High

Thank you for finding the photo! I put it in the article about the school! If there is a possibility of getting a photo of the main entrance to Girls High, with the name of the school on the building or a signpost, that would be great! WhisperToMe (talk) 01:08, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Unillustrated DC

Slow down, dude! At the rate you're going, there won't be anything left to do at Wikimania next year but go to Wikimania. Where's the fun in that? :) Seriously, though, good on you for your work. --Ebyabe (talk) 19:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

WP:Wikipedia Loves Libraries

Why don't you create something at Wikipedia:WikiProject Philadelphia/WLL or so, and share this with other Wiki-Philadelphians? Can you get in touch with the local library and get things started?--Pharos (talk) 19:12, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

A draft of the AE request

Dear Smallbones,
I consider a possibility to file the AE request as explained on the MCuCR talk page[3]. However, since the sanctions are not my primary goals, I would like to discuss this draft with you first. I hope it would be useful to look at the issue again. That may help to avoid some negative consequences and to save the arbitrators' time.
Regards.--Paul Siebert (talk) 01:28, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear Smallbones,
I initiated a straw poll here. I would like you to express your opinion on that account.
Regards, --Paul Siebert (talk) 17:27, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Cool little photo

Found this photo on Commons today while doing some museum/art work: File:CROSSING THE PAINTED ROAD WHICH EXTENDS EAST FROM THE PHILADELPHIA MUSEUM OF ART. CENTER CITY IN BACKGROUND - NARA - 552716.tif --SarahStierch (talk) 16:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

btw this is a Gene Davis (painter) installation. another photo here [4], worth inserting illustrating the critical commentary. Slowking4: 7@1|x 00:35, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Jacob Soll

I appreciate your help and revisions. I'm not interested in making any trouble. He knew I knew how to edit Wikipedia articles and asked me to update his page because his profile is heightened with the new fellowship. It didn't seem like a big deal since all the information was true and written by him. Thanks again. Melissasusan (talk) 17:42, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

RFC @ MKuCR

I have added my last proposal under PS option 2, would you like to copyedit it and add anything you think is missing? And perhaps add your thoughts to the concept section? The Last Angry Man (talk) 19:22, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

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Small, Re Holodomor. There are hundreds of sources calling Holodomor genocide, I am quite sure genocide is mass killing :o) However I do have a source from OUP which says Holodomor was "an act of ideologically motivated mass murder similar to the Holocaust and the Armenian Genocide" Will that do? The Last Angry Man (talk) 15:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

boiler room

You'll need to provide a footnote to the source which supports those statements otherwise it'll be removed again or we can go to the admin board. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 03:10, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

my fault, I dunno why I left that dickheaded comment ^ ... it was uncalled for, but good looks on the source man, peace. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 06:11, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

WP NRHP in the Signpost

"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject National Register of Historic Places for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 05:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

congrats on the signpost, hope you wont get a big head. Slowking4: 7@1|x 18:12, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Your help if possible

Hi again Smallbones!! We have permission to take photos of the Kinman Clothing as soon as the museum is closed for the season, they will let us take pictures of everything. BTW, we seem to have riled up an editor (possible administrator) without intent. Could you read thru Talk:Carson_Mansion and the conversations on NorCalAl's page and mine. I fail to see what we did to annoy this guy so much. Perhaps you can clue me in. It looks like NorCalAl copied a superlative from his sources, Dante objected to it. Ok so far so good. But Dante says I'm rude and condescending? I'd appreciate your read on this. I was attempting to fix the problem he saw and he has just gotten nastier. Any advice will be most welcome. My #1 thought is to ignore him, but he seems to be following my pages around now. Ellin Beltz (talk) 00:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

RRMOP redux

Thought you'd like to see that I was able to go out to Strasburg and the Railroad Museum and managed to get a photo of that wooden frieght car without the blur. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 00:55, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I formally put the other image up for deletion on Commons (you'll have gotten an automatic notification on your Commons user talk page that attests to that). I've already got a few ideas for awards in your photo contest, namely "Most Endangered" (get a photo while we can should the worst happen), and "Most Unusual [site, not photo]". ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 17:20, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Fish cabins etc

I think you enjoyed it more than Ebyabe did :-) The comment that you made after Ebyabe fell out of his chair (me challenging on Kansas, Dakotas) makes me wonder: are you proposing this in response to what's going to be in the Signpost? My only objection is preventing this from including AR sites: if the location is known, there's no good reason to say that they shouldn't count. Nyttend (talk) 03:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

If they're accessible AR sites, then they should be included. But we don't want people arrested for trespassing b/c they're trying to get pictures for the contest, doncha know. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 21:24, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that would likely reduce their photo output :-) From a purely trespassing point of view, ARs aren't the only problems; my next "long" photo trip is likely to be for the purpose of fully-illustrating Sullivan County, Indiana, which has two archaeological sites; I'm likely going to have to settle for a distant view of site #2, since it's in a hilly area not near a road (but NRIS gives the location), while site #1 is address-restricted, but its location right along a road means that I'll only need to stop, turn on flashers, take photo from road, get back in car, and drive off. I can't imagine any problems that I'll have to get it — except for natural, since it's right along the Wabash River, and was likely inundated last spring when I took this photo on a nearby river that was no less flooded than the Wabash. Nyttend (talk) 12:27, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Turn on flashers? In all my roadtrips, I've never done that. If you know where an AR site is, that helps. The undone Florida ones I have only the vaguest idea where they are, even after research. So I'm not worried about those anymore. I have taken the distance shots when I could, like here, here and here. At least this one had a plaque too. Btw, I like the bridge shot, nice composition. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 15:19, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

NRHP photos

I responded on my talk page, but FYI, we're cool. :) I don't know if I mentioned some of the stuff I use to help track my photo taking. That is User:Ebyabe/Googley maps/ALL and User:Ebyabe/NRHPs in FL pix needed. In case something like them may be of use to you directly, or for the photo contest. Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 21:22, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Great idea for a contest. The leaves in my neck of (Penn's) woods are turning - hope the recent rain does not knock them all down. I made a trip on the Keystone Shortway this past weekend and the leaves were further along than I expected. The higher elevations were quite beautiful, though probably not yet at peak color. I will do my best to get some more pictures of NRHPs, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:23, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I wonder if we could do something like a "most shots of a site" contest. I know a lot of the other photographers take one shot of a site and move on. I like to take multiples, from different angles, to get a more dimensional perspective. Heck, with a digital camera, it doesn't cost any different to take 1 shot or 10. Also, if one shot doesn't turn out OK, you've got backups. Maybe people only upload one shot of a site? Anyway, just a thought. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 15:22, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I would be glad to sponsor the best photo contest, but think it should be !voted on by anyone interested (much like the COmmons Picture of the year). There are over 100 pictures of Black Moshannon State Park on Commons (mostly from me). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:20, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I could run the best overall picture contest - just limit it to one nominated pic per editor and set up a page similar to Talk:Waterfalls in Ricketts Glen State Park/archive1 for people to !vote at. Make some limits (one nom and one vote per editor, some basic limit (100 edits?) so no IPs or socks. Whaddayathink? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 11:47, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I would be glad to "sponsor" or be the juge (or one of the judges) for the Best Photo contest. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi SB and thanks for the invitation to participate in/sponsor an NRHP photo contest. I've been actively photographing NRHP sites and uploading my pictures since February 2008. According to my Commons file list, I've uploaded 744 pictures to date and I think all of them are NRHP-related. Most of what I've done has been in the Bay Area, but I've also done NRHP photo tours in Portland & Hood River, OR; Seattle; Stark County, OH; and Wilmington, NC. I've done just about all that can be done in San Francisco, Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin and Sonoma Counties and am currently part way through San Mateo and Napa Counties. I've generally skipped historic districts because I don't have the nomination documents (yet), so I don't know for sure which structures are contributing properties. I may get to that once I pick off all of the relatively low-hanging fruit that's within a day trip of San Francisco.

Anyways, that's a long-winded way of saying that I don't really have much to contribute to a contest except what I've taken up in Napa the past couple of weeks but haven't uploaded yet (and possibly a few from San Mateo). I'm not sure what you mean by "sponsoring" an event. I'm already devoting a substantial chunk of my free time to Wikipedia-related activites. I don't think I can squeeze another one in. --sanfranman59 (talk) 20:53, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Travel safely - unfortunately I have a 12-hour day tomorrow, but I'll be thinking of you (and wishing I were out enjoying the weather). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the Sodom Schoolhouse photo - sounds like a fun trip, even if there was some rain and you did not get as many photos as you'd hoped. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:22, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

P.S., archiving

Btw, your talk page is loooooooong. You can archive the lazy way, like I do, via User:MiszaBot III. Just sayin'. :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 21:28, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Carnegie libraries in NJ

If in your travels you come across any buildings on the List of Carnegie libraries in New Jersey, photos would greatly enhance the artcle. Thanks Djflem (talk) 13:47, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Historic ruts

Might try for the greatest-distance-between-photos thing. I won't be going back to SC, but will be spending T'giving in eastern Penna., and am also contemplating a run out to the Nebraska Panhandle. With any luck, that'll give me photos across three time zones... Ammodramus (talk) 23:33, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

We'll get that beer drunk sooner or later, whether in Nebraska or Pennsylvania or somewhere more exotic. I'll be staying in Pike County, near Dingman's Ferry; will have my car, so I should be able to travel to wherever you want to meet. No idea about schedule yet—it'll depend on the plans made by various relatives, but I should be around long enough to have a certain amount of free time. Will e-mail you when I get there. Ammodramus (talk) 01:55, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Looks like a fun contest

Visitor7 (talk) 05:12, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC Oct 22

Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC

You are invited to Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC, an editathon, Wikipedia meet-up and lectures that will be held on Saturday, October 22, 2011, at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (at Lincoln Center), as part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries events being held across the USA.

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WP:GLAM/MonmouthpediA

Hey Smallbones Thanks very much for your encouragement and advice. The thing that jumps out at me that if you might be interested in is translation or development of the articles in languages other than English. If you can speak any other languages, or know anyone who would be interested then that would be great. I notice a lot of the existing articles in the area including the one for Monmouth are pretty underdeveloped in pretty much anything other than English. Many thanks John Mrjohncummings (talk) 14:57, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Lothrop Mansion NRHP DC

added Lothrop Mansion, not on the list. i will wait awhile before inserting in your nice table code. btw, i've been using the open street map "United States Washington, D.C." for locmapin, better than the old tan lozenge. Slowking4: 7@1|x 14:44, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

oops you caught me. i keep looking on the central dc list, for things that are upper nw.

as for public art, i tend to make one article per artwork, and then list identical examples, castings by location, tend to pick the first one or most prominent, but sometines first to get photo, for example Captain Nathan Hale; Jeanne d'Arc (Frémiet); The Burghers of Calais. i.e. i wouldn't get too hung up on listing all the "iron mike"'s; one article will do (even a merge). Slowking4: 7@1|x 17:50, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

btw i think your photo of Chase's Theater and Riggs Building here [5] is more a shot of Rhodes' Tavern, (Metropolitan Square phase II) but the names are confusing i grant you. such are the things that stick in the craw of the locals. Slowking4: 7@1|x 16:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Monmouthpedia

Hey Smallbones

Thanks very much for your encouragement and advice. The thing that jumps out at me that if you might be interested in is translation or development of the articles in languages other than English. If you can speak any other languages, or know anyone who would be interested then that would be great. I notice a lot of the existing articles in the area including the one for Monmouth are pretty underdeveloped in pretty much anything other than English. Many thanks

John Mrjohncummings (talk) 19:29, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the reminder. --KF5LLG (talk) 22:10, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Photo contest

Thanks, but there won't be anything much. I made one trip a week ago, which got Marshall County, Illinois and Sullivan County, Indiana to fully-illustrated, but that's the last trip I expect to take for quite a while. I have plenty of photos yet to upload, but everything that's not from my trip to Pennsylvania a month ago is local HDs here in Bloomington, which aren't NR-listed. Remember my comment about the timing being unfair to grad students :-) Nyttend (talk) 15:30, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

No complaints; I would have been better suited anyway if I'd not already done a ton here in Indiana: if I can get 18 more, I'll be past half done in the state, and that doesn't include any of the rather rich northern counties, such as Allen, St. Joseph, or Lake. Nyttend (talk) 15:46, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

hey there, i see you saw my Chain Bridge Road School. the furtive pic thru trees is because i had to sally down the alley, back from the street. addresses and coord are confusing. elevation much changed. (will upload habs) the Potomac Palisades Site is another problematic one. i got a shot of a mound on the geo-coords, but not much there, a clearing in the woods. the peirce still house was much nicer. Slowking4: 7@1|x 02:49, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I was pleased to be invited

to add photos to the National Register collection for Washington DC. Although I have visited DC many times over the years I had no pictures of the sites that you still needed and living in the Land of Enchantment puts DC about 2263 miles (more in kilometers) away, so three will be no quick jaunts for me. Life is supposed to be interesting. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:58, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Hanging out in cemeteries?

Thanks for adding the photo of Sorrow by Samuel Murray. I think I know where you were on Halloween. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:22, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion, please

Hope you enjoy Colorado for Thanksgiving :-) Could you offer an opinion please? I've finally gotten around to uploading photos from my trip to western Pennsylvania six weeks ago, including the Searights Tollhouse, National Road, a previously-unillustrated NHL. I have two photos: one from the east and one from the west. Which do you think is better? I originally went with the westward one, but I'm starting to wonder if the eastern one might be better; therefore, I can't quite decide. Nyttend (talk) 05:16, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Wow, Pike County is just a day trip for you? Thanks for the input; you're welcome, especially as it had been my goal for quite a while, along with the Meason and Acheson Houses. I was planning to get it when I was in Fayette County in the spring, but delays along the way made it so that I didn't quite have time. By the way, what's up with the Schaeffer House? Had it simply been omitted in the past? Nyttend (talk) 19:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, if you ever change your mind and go back to Pike County, I believe that you're slightly wrong. The coords that I got for the Pike County list have part of the site in the woods just off U.S. Route 209; I dropped the Street View icon onto a random spot near the coords and found a pulloff spot. You might not get a wonderful picture, but it wouldn't be worse than the one I took at Swan's Landing, and Mrs. Smallbones wouldn't even have to sit for a minute :-) As well, the NHL nomination form speaks of farmers ploughing artifacts out of fields; very close to the pulloff spot is an area of open countryside overlooking the river. I'll also copy this to Ammodramus' talk. Nyttend (talk) 22:10, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Nice! Thanks for the notice. Looks like I have another Pennsylvania trip coming up at the end of the week, but I'll not have much chance for photos: it's an elderly friend's funeral. I may be able to squeeze a little time in Pittsburgh over the weekend (if I'm able to stay), as I'm thinking of conducting some research for next semester's courses while I'm there, but it won't be much. Nyttend (talk) 02:36, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Good point at PUF about the lack of renewal; I'd never thought of checking for renewals, so the only historical markers that I upload are pre-1977 without copyright notices. On a different subject, do you attempt to replace black and white HABS photos with your own color images? I ended up having time for photos while in Pittsburgh today, so I'll be able to add a sunny color image of Emmanuel Episcopal Church (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania). Nyttend (talk) 00:29, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Printz.JPG

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On Commons this was already hashed out - see Commons:Category talk:Historical markers in Pennsylvania. Since this was set up before 1989, it is free. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:25, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Glad to help. The advantage of being around here a long time is that I've seen a lot of these arguments before - the disadvantage is that it took me a while to find the discussion on Commons. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:47, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Nom forms for Penna. NRHP sites?

In Pike County. Got what I think are some acceptable pictures for Minisink Archeological Site; it turns out that the Manna site, referred to in the article, is easily located, and that the bank erosion can be photographed reasonably well from across Raymondskill Creek. Will upload shortly.

While I was in that area, ran up to Milford and got some photos in the Jervis Gordon Grist Mill Historic District. I'm sure that one of the buildings I photographed is in the district (the mill building itself). However, the nom form for Milford Historic District Boundary Increase tells me that there are three contributing buildings and a contributing structure in the JGGMHD. Unfortunately, it doesn't tell me what they are; and I can't find a nom form for the JGGMHD itself. Since you've presumably got some experience tracking down this sort of thing in Penna., do you know of a place where I might be able to find the nom form or something else that'd tell me what buildings are and aren't in the HD? Thanks. Ammodramus (talk) 01:31, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Exactly what I needed. Thanks! Ammodramus (talk) 19:35, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Great! I'd already seen the Minisink, but thanks for letting me know. I spent part of my day driving to photograph the newly-nominated potential NHL in Columbus, Indiana, so if it's designated, we'll have no need to wait for a picture. Nyttend (talk) 04:36, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

OGG Format

Thanks for the kind words. The OGG format converter is nearly-freeware at this site http://www.ogg-converter.net/ (but I paid the full license price). Visitor7 (talk) 01:09, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

PA and NHLs

Looks like it's going to be a tie, unless somebody's sitting on a bunch of NHL photos elsewhere. I'll be in western New York and Pittsburgh through the weekend, and there'll be no NHLs within easy reach. I'm hoping to hit at least one on the way back to Nebraska, but by then the contest will be over.

The shots of Minisink Island from above were taken from a trail on the Penna. side. Took them somewhat early in the morning, and had to wait an hour or so for the fog over the river to burn off so that the island would be visible. According to Google Earth, the island itself is in NJ; as I recall, I used photos of it to illustrate the NJ lists, and photos of the Manna site (OK, but late-morning light would've been better) for the Penna. lists. --Ammodramus (talk) 11:52, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Photo contest barnstar

Are you going to award a chicago barnstar?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:39, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Why not? Smallbones (talk) 04:42, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Photo contest - Ebyabe ones

Where should I post the results for mine? They're easy, since Georgia only had one entry. The NHL is a tie (you and Ammo). Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 05:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'll look for that. Night! :) --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Inspector General ‖ 05:17, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Photo contest

Thanks. I actually hadn't thought of entering at first, since many of my photos date back over the last couple of years and would be ineligible, but I looked over what I'd taken and archived since 10/21 late yesterday and thought, they're pretty good (from three states, including my first trips to Vermont in a long time) so why not? However, there wasn't enough time to upload everything and watch football games and prepare dinner.

I doubt, in any future photo contest, I could compete on quantity of new images for the same reason ... so many of my yet unprocessed photos are older (since I like to upload the photo and then develop the article if I can, and usually I can). But it's an idea worth exploring.

You might want to talk to User:Aude, the first chairperson of Wikimedia-DC. She's organizing a U.S. run of Wikipedia Loves Monuments for next year to coincide with Wikimania. I pointed her to the project, and she added herself as a member and is looking at what we do and have done. Daniel Case (talk) 19:31, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Richardson Brognard Okie

Found a great source for background on the architect here: http://ia600608.us.archive.org/32/items/residentialarchi00sens/residentialarchi00sens.pdf When I googled the local library catalog, it asked "Did you mean Richardson Bernard yoke?" which would also be a brilliant name for an article. Visitor7 (talk) 20:42, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

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sorry about putting the non free tag on true reformer mural. fyi, i made a thematic User:Slowking4/List of carousels on the National Register of Historic Places. quite a few. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 14:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

i see the masons are motivated. i noticed that Julius Lansburgh Furniture Co., Inc. "old masonic temple", was not on the list List_of_Masonic_buildings_in_the_United_States#Washington, D.C. i'll make a comment. as we know, faragutful won the contest for dc. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 17:43, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

PRB

Lovely article SB on Lilith. I think I'd go for Rosseti changing the face when he changed the girl. My favourite Rossetti fact is that they kept a wombat on the dinner table. Which Lewis Carrol heard about and that is why there is a dormouse at the mad hatters tea party(source Martin Gardner). Looking forward to MonmouthpediA - should be what you experimented with ... but the whole town. Oh and PRB .... my family are PRB fans and my wife has red hair. My favourite is John Collier - as good as Rosseti but not so consistant Victuallers (talk) 22:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Have a search for Monmouthpedia - you'll see the project page. I think you need a DAMpedia page or at least DAMGLAM page.... 00:55, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Lilith

Sorry I got carried away. There is a second DYK hook based arounf Henry Treffry Dunn. I only meabt to create a stub, but he turned into a start and then the most interesting factoid involved Lilith. Do take a look and copyedit etc Victuallers (talk) 13:48, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Vernacular Frame House

You may be interested in a reply I just left at WT:NRHP. Nyttend (talk) 02:20, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Stephan Dohanos

Do you have a reliable source that says that Stephan Dohanos was an employee of the Federal government? I started the article on him, and I was never able to determine whether he was employed by the Federal government, or was a contractor. If he did the various murals as a contractor, then they may not be in the public domain. -- Donald Albury 20:46, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I remember seeing a warning somewhere on WP (6 years ago, mind you) about the copyright for some work done for the Federal government remaining with contractors. Images from the Smithsonian Institution web site[6] that I placed in the Dohanos article and in Barefoot mailman (Dohanos did six murals on the subject in the West Palm Beach post office) were deleted a while back because I wasn't sure I could label them public domain. -- Donald Albury 21:44, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

"One unusual depiction of a local hero is featured on the wall of the West Palm Beach post office. The Legend of James Edward Hamilton, Florida's barefoot mail carrier, is told on six narrative panels. The artist, Stevan Dohanos, rendered the story of the brave and enduring postman who delivers the mail against all odds. In fact, on October 1, 1887, Hamilton lost his life while on his postal route. "[7] upload it again, the public art cabal will support. however, be aware the SI has a NC ND restriction;[8] therefore use a "non free with NC" tag in english wikipedia. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 22:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I saw those murals back in the '80s (in their second location), but that facility was closed to the public in the '90s. Anyway, I'll try again. -- Donald Albury 00:19, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK firehouse

Please see your DYK nom about the firehouse. PumpkinSky talk 13:01, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Lady Lilith, I fail!

Hey, Smallbones, happy new year! I failed miserably at taking a look at Lady Lilith. Still looking for an extra pair of eyes? :) SarahStierch (talk) 21:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Ohio House

Confused, are you asking me what to do with the image, or do you mean something else? Nyttend (talk) 05:03, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the note. Right now, I can't think of anything where I could use it — I'm leaving in the morning to go back to school, where it will be a busy semester, and I still have other photos to process. The idea of various states contributing things, together with the idea of stone coming from near Dayton, makes me think of the McDonald Farm just east of Dayton: the farmer had a small quarry whence was taken stone to contribute to the Washington Monument, according to its historical marker. Nyttend (talk) 05:22, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

To Commons

Hi Smallbones, FYI, I'm moving all your self made images to Commons. Multichill (talk) 12:52, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me! Smallbones (talk) 13:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

You are very welcome and were not a pest at all (I have been busy IRL and appreciated the reminders). Lillith looks good - congrats! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 12:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

COI Editing

Hey Smallbones. A while back you commented on the Signpost story on COI editing suggesting companies should just license free content on their website that Wikipedia's volunteer community can take from at will. I explained that no corporation would be willing to put up a free license flag on their corporate website, nor would they have well-verified encyclopedic content on their website, unless it was specifically for Wikipedia.

I was wondering if you felt it would be more ethical to provide the free content on a third-party site. For example, I have a small pet project WikipediaEthics.org that's based on the open source Wikimedia software. I could easily mark it as free content, write articles there and ask an editor to consider it. Though conceptually, isn't it the same as writing a draft in my userspace for consideration? Let me know what you think.

There's a discussion going on about paid editing issues here that has me thinking about it. Though I'm also thinking if I ask other editors to add an article I wrote off-site, that erodes my own transparency, since the article wouldn't be seen in my editing history. There's also issues with having other editors edit under one's influence. King4057 (talk) 21:23, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

i see that the CREWE people have invited jimbo to their group, maybe we can have a truce, modus vivendi, so that the edit stands on its own, regardless of "COI". too much ad hominem even if it's sometimes true. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 21:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I've spent some time looking at WikipediaEthics.org and do notice that it is licensed as non-commercial, presumably that would be changed? But most of all, I'm just tired of discussing very clear ideas with people who refuse to understand the meaning of a simple sentence: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" Anything either of you can do to bring in independent editors of any stripe, who understand that sentence, would be welcomed. Smallbones (talk) 19:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

i do agree with you, he whose bread i eat, his song i sing. however, given that we now have people editing with ip's, to me it's better to have them in the tent pissing out. i kinda dislike the ad hominem aspect of COI. the postive spin problem will always be with us, just look at the university articles. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 22:43, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

As long as no one has to fess up to their real life identity (the violation of anonymity is a major issue, conveniently protecting COI editors), problems will continue. As for companies, any company information beyond what is already available publicly, specifically freely-licensed content by a company about itself, would be deleted as advertising. PЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 01:12, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

My contact details are on my user page and I've made no effort to shroud my identity. Given my posts on Facebook, Twitter and Wikipedia, I'm quite confident people know my real-life identity, including potentially Jimbo and many of the Wikipedia staff. I've proposed things like that - registered paid editors could have real-life identities only admins can see in the OTRS system (or something like that), but you're right. Nobody wants to see Wikipedia have real-life implications, ties, consequences, etc. and it's not without good reason. King4057 (talk) 17:55, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

@smallbones, yah, I would have to add the free content tags to the site

@slowking, I agree, but to be honest also have empathy for people who are angry at COIs who refuse to make the effort to read, understand and follow even basic policies and routinely get in bickering matches. It's astounding that a paid editor who has never edited Wikipedia in their life, will get angry at experienced administrators that know what they're doing like THEY'RE the ones in the wrong. I've seen one editor spamming advert that was copy/pasted from a non-notable website who was angry it kept getting reverted.

@all, it is very challenging to write encyclopedic articles as a paid editor. I've reviewed my own articles recently with a critical eye and feel some are pretty well balanced, but others have puffery and such I could have done without.

In my case, I sell ethics more than results, so my bread and butter is reliant on doing the right thing. Telling clients what not to do is the most important part.

Anyways, on this larger topic, I'm putting my eggs in this basket Wikipedia:WikiProject Cooperation. If anyone wants to join the project, moderate the help page, become a mentor, etc. there's plenty of room for more hands. I've also written a substantial portion of the project and identified areas I can't do myself due to my COI with the topic. King4057 (talk) 17:46, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Lincoln statue

Did you get my email? Did you find out where the Lincoln statue is? --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:17, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Could the Kemey's sculpture be Hudson Bay Wolves? http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMDB3W_Hudson_Bay_Wolves_Philadelphia_PA Alphabetically, it might have been immediately above Lincoln. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 21:11, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Wow!

Your list of public art in Philly is looking really GREAT! Jgmikulay (talk) 22:33, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

What extraordinary work you're doing on List of public art in Philadelphia!
Thank you, thank you, thank you. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:08, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Good decision to make Fairmount Park a separate section. And thanks for photographing Hudson Bay Wolves. Sculptures on the Parkway (Rodin Museum, Washington Memorial, etc.) feel more Philadelphia to me than Fairmount Park, though. Any objection to my changing them? BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 03:47, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Everything north/west of Eakins Oval sounds like a good boundary. So Rocky and Joan of Arc are listed under Fairmount Park, but the Parkway sculptures are not.
Laurel Hill Cemetery monuments are another problem. Geographically, they feel like Fairmount Park. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 22:36, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Agree with both ideas. Smallbones (talk) 01:40, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

If this becomes a complete list of the nearly 1000 public art works in the city, it's going to have to be broken down geographically. May I suggest: Center City & the Parkway - Fairmount Park & the Schuylkill River - West & Southwest Phila - North & Northeast Phila - Northwest Phila. Schuylkill River can take care of the cemeteries on the hills above. The Wissahickon can be either included in Fairmount Park or Northwest Phila. Suggestions? BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:52, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I tried reorganizing the list geographically. My opinion is that it would be better to split Fairmount Park into 2 categories: East Fairmount Park (including Philadelphia Museum of Art and Laurel Hill Cemetery), and West Fairmount Park (including Philadelphia Zoo). BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:12, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, one Fairmount Park section for now. Searching for images of works, I see that many of the photos are yours. Again, great thanks. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:26, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Sloans of Lock Haven

Interesting question. I don't know the answer, but I'm poking around to see what I can find. I posted a note just now to the Lock Haven talk page, and if I find anything further, I'll post again there. I have seen your user name now and again, but I don't remember the context(s). I will never match your total of 1,554 photos of NRHP sites. Wow! Pleased to meet you. Finetooth (talk) 17:49, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

New Castle County NR-listed schools

Are you familiar with the Archmere Academy in New Castle County? It's the subject of a discussion right now at WT:NRHP; please see the "Schools and NRHP infoboxes" section. Nyttend (talk) 17:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. By the way, did you see my final remarks on the Vernacular Frame House, about Nebraska bridges? They're in Archive 50, if you'd like to see them. Nyttend (talk) 05:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Uhh...native Aramaic speakers? Thanks for the notice, but I'll also need to have a job and be enrolled in five-day-a-week language classes for the summer, so it wouldn't work out. I'd definitely like to go — I'm sure that it would be far more impressive than a small GLAM event, and even that I loved. Nyttend (talk) 05:30, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Found

Glad you like it. Please add as much as you have - it's too short for dyk ( the block quote doesn't count). I can add more on the weekend. -PKM (talk) 18:48, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Additions are great. There's a second compositional study in pen and ink at Birmingham. I'll add a section on the sketches and studies with a gallery or some such, before the 5 days are up, maybe this evening (I am in LA).

Saw the calf hook, love it. Thanks for making that crop. Teamwork! More soon ... PKM (talk) 20:49, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I think it's ready for DYK now. I have a couple of things I want to look up and add (the sonnet DGR wrote to accompany the work in 1881(?), and something on morality and PRB art in the 1850s, and DGR's struggles with perspective and what-not, but hey Wikipedia articles are never "done". - PKM (talk) 02:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm okay with your image placements. I'll get this up as a joint DYK unless someone beats me to it - tonight or tomorrow. PKM (talk) 23:37, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

I see you beat me to it, thank you. ;-) - PKM (talk) 02:00, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Lilith

Hi. I went to speak to his Whiteghost re his recent image re-revert. And found the following:

Some stuff going on here on the Lilith talk page. You might have some insight to offer regarding the drama with the image, etc. Smallbones asked me to pass word along to anyone who might have interest! I know you're busy, but it might be something you can voice your opinion on! SarahStierch (talk) 21:45, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

This isn't really a general "art" question, it would help for those inputting to have had some knowledge/history of the article. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:02, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Can you please restore the status quo image per WP:Revert, thanks In ictu oculi (talk) 09:11, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

St. Andrew's Anglican Church, Moscow

Hello Smallbones,

Just found this St. Andrew's Anglican Church, Moscow. Fascinating! Didn't know and now I do. Thanks. Whiteghost.ink 00:26, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanksgiving

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Thanksgiving". Thank you. --Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:35, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Dante Gabriel Rossetti

Hey Smallbones,

I am going to work on this as per our discussion at wikisource. The way the site works is through a validation process of the pages, so if you are interested, it would be great if you could "validate" the pages after I proofread them. - Theornamentalist (talk) 01:55, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

You can see it coming together here. - Theornamentalist (talk) 06:53, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

One of the other editors has already started validating the book... if you'd like, find a publication at archive.org, or any other site, and we can start on a new book. He has quite an extensive catalog. Funny, I recalled working on something of his in recent times, and I found that I transcribed this last July. - Theornamentalist (talk) 21:09, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

hi, i noticed there is a Complete poetical works 1887 [9]

"Found" (For a Picture) Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 01:00, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Green links?

Do you see green links at Wikipedia:GLAM/Delaware Art Museum or even here: John Sloan, which is a redirect to John French Sloan? --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

No - I think something has to be set up in preferences for the green links to show up. Smallbones (talk) 23:10, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

That is right. However, green links should be eliminated by using the correct article title, rather than the one with a redirect. --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:47, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places listings in Scott County, Iowa

Nice job on the new look for the National Register of Historic Places listings in Scott County, Iowa page. I like it a lot and think it's easier to navigate. Farragutful (talk) 23:19, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but it's not quite right yet. It doesn't line up and part of that depends on the aspect of the pictures. I think I used all photos with 4:3 aspect ratios. I'll try more later, or find somebody who really knows how to do it. Smallbones (talk) 01:15, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

GLAM/Delaware Art Museum

Please take a look at User talk:Dthomsen8/Draft articles/DMA as a first draft of redoing Delaware Art Museum#Collections. Yes, I know you liked the left hand thumbnails, but the right hand ones can line up with the subsections for artists. We need a Post World War II American Art illustration at the end to complete the set. I have dropped some of the links in the original in redoing the whole section, and I am unsure if I am consistent in adding subsection and sub-subsection headings, but overall I think this is much better visually. Perhaps I should have posted this on the GLAM project page. Please comment here, and then, after enhancements, it can be posted over there. Sarah's comments would be especially valuable.

Also, note the NYT inline citation with a quotation added to the History section. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:51, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Are you able to obtain an image for one of the artists listed in the User talk:Dthomsen8/Draft articles/DMA final section from the DAM? --DThomsen8 (talk) 15:28, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Flower Book

I saw the gallery. It's fantastic! I think the article is ready for DYK; there really isn't a lot more to add. I guess it's my turn to do the nom, huh? -PKM (talk) 02:50, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

I find the Biblio link amusing, but technically I think it counts as a commercial link, and I think we need to remove it before we submit to DYK, -PKM (talk) 03:29, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

DAM article Collections section

I wanted to keep you in the loop on my suggestion to User:Dthomsen8 in reply to his request on my talk page. Specifically, I'm suggesting that the Collections section be narrative, not a list, using inspiration from the Indianapolis Museum of Art article. Let me know if you need any other help with the DAM! Great job getting that off the ground! LoriLee (talk) 18:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanksgiving

Hello User:Smallbones, I hope you are doing well. I noticed that you recently expanded the Thanksgiving article. Your comments would be appreciated here and here. Thanks, Anupam^Talk 04:16, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

John Frelinghuysen (minister)

I've undid your change at John Frelinghuysen (minister), because the source you added was about John Frederick Frelinghuysen (one of his grandsons), not about John Frelinghuysen (minister). I hope this is allright with you. Fram (talk) 08:35, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Please read the sources before you delete! Smallbones (talk) 15:13, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Love's Messenger

I've been through everything I have, and there's nothing I can add to Love's Messenger beyond what you have already. Agree it would be a lovely DYK for Valentine's Day.

Go ahead and put it up for DYK - it's qualified. - PKM (talk) 02:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

PS I had two DYKs the same day, on Christmas a couple of years ago. They put them in different rotations, so I don't think there's any rule against it. - PKM (talk) 18:22, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

DGR

By the way, Rossetti by Treuherz et al. is silent on both Mnemosyne and Veronica Veronese. I may have something on them in one of my general PRB studies, or one of the bios, but it would probably be something pretty obscure (or conversely, nothing you have not already covered.) - PKM (talk) 00:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Whatever you can add would be appreciated. Smallbones (talk) 01:01, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Added a bit to Mnemosyne, and linked to the article on Mnemosyne, the Greek personification of Memory. Do you want to copy the pronunciation from Mnemosyne? - PKM (talk) 01:53, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK

How would you feel about a dual DYK nom?

...that Dante Gabriel Rossetti's Mneosyne and Veronica Veronese (pictured) were displayed along with other "stunners" in the drawing room of a shipping magnate?

- PKM (talk) 17:45, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Great idea! The middle pic is best. Smallbones (talk) 19:32, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

14th UTC is the last day to nom, right? - PKM (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

DYKs look good! - PKM (talk) 21:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Love's Messenger

Pls respond asap, esp. if you want this on MainPage tomorrow. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 01:30, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for your quick response. I'll now try to put this on prep. --PFHLai (talk) 02:27, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

72nd Pennsylvania Infantry Monument

love the work on philly - see 72nd Pennsylvania Infantry Monument: please have a word with wild wolf. i'm too angry, not to get in an edit war. we need to get a real list for nrhp for gettysburg. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 03:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

thank you!

Thank you for the lovely valentine. A very cool idea!! - PKM (talk) 22:04, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for The Flower Book (Edward Burne-Jones)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Quite surprised to see the author's name; I didn't know that you worked on this kind of article very much :-) Nice work, and this was a great hook. Nyttend (talk) 02:00, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!!

Ah, sigh ... beautiful Valentine. You have made my day!! And congratulations on The Flower Book (Edward Burne-Jones)

In case you do not know about it, here is a link to a Rossetti that is not on display but is somewhere in storage at "my" Gallery http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/work/432.2003/ Whiteghost.ink 00:17, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks from me, too. It was kind of you to think of me. All the best to you :-) FloNight♥♥♥♥ 16:33, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks from me as well :) Ruby 2010/2013 02:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

RS/N

Thank you for your recent high value contributions to RS/N on the topic of oral records. They are greatly appreciated, even when I seem to be arguing against your points, or for points counterposed to your position. I appreciate the quality and importance of the work you've done for the encyclopaedia and the encyclopaedic movement with your comments. Fifelfoo (talk) 02:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Love's Messenger

Materialscientist (talk) 08:43, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Happy Valentine's Day

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	Happy Valentine's Smallbones! May this year bring you lots of #WikiLove, as you deserve it! SarahStierch (talk) 19:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Kelsey-Davey Farm image

I noticed you removed my picture of the Kelsey-Davey farm from the National Register of Historic Places listings in Onondaga County, New York, as well as the page for the farm itself. The house no longer exists, but my understanding is that the barn is a contributing structure. So the only alternative to a picture of the barn would be a picture of the old house, which I doubt we'll ever get. I'm just wondering why it was removed. Crazyale (talk) 20:51, 14 February 2012 (UTC)