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Zilch-nada
Zilch-nada is warned to assume good faith and maintain civility in discussions, and to better listen to other editors during discussions. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning Zilch-nada
Basically this user wants to use talk-pages as a debating society, in sensitive topic-areas. Their corrosive behavior is not limited to contentious topics (see e.g. this early edit summary) but their editing is heavily focused on contentious areas. I think that it would be good if they were firmly directed away from contentious topics, and battleground editing more generally. --JBL (talk) 00:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC) I've added three additional diffs of inappropriate behavior on a different page (Talk:Gender-critical feminism) in the topic area. Also, it is worth observing that the contentious edit (13 March) on Gender (whose reversion led to some of the discussions mentioned above) came after this earlier discussion (9–10 February) in which two editors objected and none supported the proposed edit. --JBL (talk) 17:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC) Clarifying about diff 9: after a third party politely requested they retract the personal attack, they declined to do so. (They have, eventually, struck the attack, but only after this discussion was opened.) --JBL (talk) 17:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Discussion concerning Zilch-nadaStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by Zilch-nada(I am requesting to exceed the 500 word limit.) As I responded to Sandebeouf on my talk page, I apologised for my edit on Sarah Jeong, blindly not seeing the editing notice (I was not aware that the article itself was so contentious.) Furthermore, the notion of BLUDGEONING is a very difficult one to make. "Typically, this means making the same argument over and over, to different people". I have never even done this. In fact, if you see the talk pages across Reverse racism, Sarah Jeong, and Gender - contentious areas which editors accuse me of misconduct -, I have employed different arguments depending on the shifting of consensus. For instance, at Gender I proposed that the "man"/"woman" dichotomy was unclear, and then first suggested to replace to "male"/"female" (which was reliably sourced). Following that being not particularly accepted, I proposed changing the definition to relate to "man"/"woman"/boy/girl as it corresponded with the particular source (the WHO) that had been particularly cited. As for the talk page on Sarah Jeong, I likewise said that a particular statement was out of context. My first idea was to lengthen to statement to employ quotations of tweet(s) which I thought were strangely absent, then, as that clearly didn't seem popular, I suggested shortening the statement as I felt that the current wording of three lines was very awkward not to include quotations. I don't treat talk pages as debating societies. But that does not mean there is no room for debate. If I make a couple of comments that are individually responded to by different people, I'll continue to respond to them; I never opened up any separate, unrelated discussion upon any discussion I was in. I was only responding to fellow talk page editors. Furthermore, what is quite vague is the notion "Bludgeoning discussions in the face of clear consensus". There was no clear consensus on the article talk page for Sarah Jeong; the 2018 standing was established from no consenus in 2018: Likewise, even though it clearly seemed that multiple editors in the past few days have formed what seems to be a new consensus in opposition to quotation of tweets, I, as mentioned aboved, opined the shortening of the contentious statement, for the same reason as my original; the statement was awkward, and lacking context. Sandebeouf accuses me of misconduct on Reverse racism, when I was solely pointing out the flaws of the current wording, considering the flaws of the sources - not ignoring them. User:Crescent77 was also a user challenging the main opinion in that discussion. The article talk page on Gender does not have such a clear cut consensus in recent discussion (of course I understand that the current wording is consensus, requiring consensus to be changed), unlike the claims, because I was in conversation with only two people; User:Beccaynr and User:-sche. As there was no consensus among a mere three people, I have considered opening up an RfC, for the main purpose of widening the discussion. I am well aware of that route and acknowledge that it is regularly more suitable than so-called "holding the stick". Otherwise, I do apologise for any usage of belittling language towards other editors; much of my edit summaries early into this account were admittedly immature (this is my first account), and I aim much more now for civility. As per the list of accusations; I agree that no.2, no.3, and the recent no. 5 and no.6 were unjustified. The no.5 and no.6 I apologised for recently in my talk page. As for the other accusations, I don't know how you could construe "Stop it with the patronizing" as dismissive, other than it being against dismissiveness, and no.7 (I genuinely have no idea how what I said here was in any way uncivil). Regardless, I sincerely apologise for the two main things I am accused of: Dismissiveness and debative attitude. I understand the solutions for the first and the second respectively; for dismissiveness, to listen to and respect people who I myself find dismissive, and for debative attitude, consider "dropping the stick", or potentially opening the discussions to wider realms such as RfCs. --Zilch-nada (talk) 11:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Statement by SangdeboeufI also advised Zilch-nada that CTOP applies to biographies of living persons at 22:55, 14 March 2024. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 02:12, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Statement by BeccaynrOn 15 March 2024, I wrote notes on Zilch-nada's usertalk [2], [3], about Zilch-nada's conduct in the Talk:Gender discussion Zilch-nada opened on 9 February 2024 (permalink), after some review of Zilch-nada's usertalk history, including a 16 December 2023 note [4] about WP:BLUDGEON from HTGS, described as "just as something to keep in mind; something to think about", and an 11 September 2023 note from Dlthewave [5] that includes discussion of "excessively long comments" and refers to Zilch-nada's participation at Talk:Gender-critical feminism and Talk:Reverse racism. Zilch-nada continued to restate their point/question on 18 March 2024 in the section I had opened at their usertalk [6]. From my view, three editors, including myself, have explained our perspectives about the current lead to Zilch-nada during the discussion at Talk:Gender, links to past discussions were offered [7], and no one is obligated to answer to Zilch-nada's satisfaction. I have since skimmed Zilch-nada's participation in discussion at Talk:Isla Bryson case (permalink), which HTGS had referred to. I have some concerns about the potential for future disruptive conduct from Zilch-nada, including because of what seems like some WP:IDHT responses to constructive feedback offered about participation in the GENSEX topic area. Beccaynr (talk) 01:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC) There was also a discussion opened by HTGS on 15 December 2023 at WT:MOS/Biography#Talking about a person’s “former” gender related to the Isla Bryson case article, where Zilch-nada made a personalized comment directed at participants [8]. Beccaynr (talk) 02:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC) I think the discussions linked above at Talk:Isla Bryson case and WT:MOS are likely better appreciated if read in full, but some diffs from Zilch-nada at Talk:Isla Bryson case include 00:41, 15 December 2023 Zilch-nada has indicated an interest in the gender article lead, and the second diff in my statement here has three diffs of some of my experience discussing the lead with Zilch-nada. I previously participated in discussions about the lead, and from my view, collaboration and consensus were possible because ultimately, the discussions were not a battleground. Beccaynr (talk) 16:17, 20 March 2024 (UTC) Statement by AquillionSome relevant bits from an exchange I had with Zilch-nada from the MOS discussion mentioned above, regarding the Isla Bryson case:
When I objected to their use of scare-quotes around "she" for a trans woman, they said these things:
When I explained to them that BLPTALK applies even to people who have done terrible things:
I think these speak for themselves. --Aquillion (talk) 05:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC) Statement by (username)Result concerning Zilch-nada
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Jaymailsays
There is consensus for an indefinite block of Jaymailsays. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:01, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning Jaymailsays
Notified at 18:19, March 10, 2024
Largely based on this BBC article (and earlier articles in the Belfast Telegraph and Newsletter), the editor is attempting to relitigate the lengthy Bloody Sunday Inquiry into Bloody Sunday (1972). None of the sources in any way suggest this verdict should be in any way looked at again, so additions such as "the "incendary footage" of McGuinness proves that the Inquiry was misled" and "based on the evidence available at the time" are totally unacceptable, since it should be blatantly obvious that a video of someome in March 1972 isn't evidence of what they were doing on a particular date in January 1972.
Discussion concerning JaymailsaysStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by Jaymailsays
Statement by MandrussAt the risk of hijacking an AE complaint—this comment is not about The Troubles, but Seraphimblade has already opened this door below—their brief participation at Talk:Donald Trump has been... unimpressive, disappointing.[12][13][14][15] They were asked to strike the PA in that last one,[16] but have so far ignored that (in my view, that constitutes doubling down on the PA, which is even more serious). If they were to suddenly disappear, I wouldn't miss them. But at least they didn't edit war, credit where credit's due. ―Mandruss ☎ 06:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC) Statement by IgnatiusofLondonEchoing Seraphimblade and Mandruss, I believe there is a WP:CIR issue that extends beyond the scope of AE. I interacted with the editor at Where is Kate?, a BLP article, where the editor continually added WP:UNDUE content (1, 2), extensive citations of routine statements/comments (3, 4, 5), which sometimes broke the prose's grammar (6, 7), and generally unreliable sources (per WP:RSP) or sources of unknown reliability that likely violate WP:BLPGOSSIP (8, 9, 10, 11). A minority of their contributions to the article were uncontested. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 12:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC) Statement by (username)Result concerning Jaymailsays
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A Wider Lens
A Wider Lens blocked indefinitely (as a normal admin action) for WP:NOTHERE. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC) |
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This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning A Wider Lens
On the talk page me and Sirfurboy have attempted to explain to A Wider Lens that what they are doing is WP:OR. They have not sought consensus, but have ignored us. They state repeatedly that they are adding the DSM IV quote due to Graham Linehan making the connection between it and Skoptic syndrome on the talk page and have ignored us noting that's not a reliable source. The text they add to the article has so far only been 1) uncited, 2) cited to an unreliable source, or 3) cited to a source that doesn't support it. Upon reviewing their contributions, I realized that they had been given the Netherlands equivalent of a GENSEX ban for exactly the same behavior. Having checked out their articles on the Netherlands Wikipedia (as they frequently link to them on English Wikipedia as things to consider when updating ours), I cannot understate how terrifying it is how many of them rely on Genspect and other FRINGE advocacy groups as a source and editors are still working to undo the damage they've done. I believe this user is WP:NOTHERE to build an encyclopedia and should be banned from GENSEX. They have continued the same POV-pushing, WP:OR, and WP:RGW that they were recently banned for, and I concur with those who weighed in at the Netherlands wiki that it is a waste of editor time to review all their edits due to their consistent misuse of sources and blatant desire to promote WP:FRINGE viewpoints in trans and/or trans healthcare related articles. On an additional note, their username may be a violation of our username policy, as it is the name of a Genspect podcast and on their talk page A Wider Lens stated this was because they were a fan. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 17:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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Discussion concerning A Wider LensStatements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Statement by A Wider Lens(request for more than 500 words)
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Statement by SirfurboyAWS' responses here will speak for themselves. My only comment is to say that, based on talk page discussion at the article to date, I do not believe they have the competence required to edit an article such as this. They don't seem to understand sourcing requirements, nor even how to cite a source. I am not convinced they understand why secondary sources are required, and I don't think they are reading the sources. I note below that they may have talked themself into an indefinite block. However, if they can avert that, I would suggest that they may want to seek mentoring and a much less controversial topic to cut their teeth on, and where they can learn to edit. A TBAN would make sense until they are able to demonstrate editing competence. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:15, 31 March 2024 (UTC) Statement by (username)Result concerning A Wider Lens
Clerking noteI've moved Special:Diff/1216559418 and Special:Diff/1216560043 to the section corresponding to respondent. I've added links to the original diffs, so that context for what comments they were responding to can be viewed with a click. For those of us who are newer here, we don't do threaded discussion at AE. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 00:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC) |
Abhishek0831996
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Request concerning Abhishek0831996
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- Kautilya3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 17:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Abhishek0831996 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 27 March 2024 15:36 at Article 370 (film), strange edit summary "
Don't need HISTRS for stating a fact...
", placed on a wrong revert. The actual revert came later (17 March 2024 16:07), which removed a tag of "unreliable source?" on a historical claim, without any improvement in the sourcing. - 27 March 2024 16:03, at its talk page. Rude & bombastic comment: "
That is precisely a nonsensical view of yours. This movie is an outright propaganda piece only created for political benefit of the BJP. Why that is so hard for you to understand?
" - 27 March 2024, 15:41 at Jammu and Kashmir (princely state), meaningless edit summary, given the weighty deletion of "Aksai Chin". Tag-teaming with Capitals00?
- 31 March 2024, 14:27 at its talk page. Trying to bully a newbie editor citing WP:BATTLEGROUND. If you read through the discussion, you see Abhishek majorly gaslighting and stone-walling, claiming that "Kashmir" is not the "princely state", which is ridiculously false.
- 1 April 2024 12:46 at Aksai Chin. More biting of the newbie editor: "
Revert half baked edits of Haani
". This is Abhishek's very first edit on this page. - 1 April 2024 13:03 at its talk page. "
One is a 2022 article and another one is a geography dictionary. None of them are reliable enough.
" Not any reasonable grounds for claiming unreliability. The so-called "geography dictionary" is published by Columbia University Press. - 26 March 2024, 09:45 at Swatantrya Veer Savarkar (film). Similar bombastic edit summary "
No rule that only Historians can call out outright distortion of history
". Reinstating content previously added by Capitals00 - 21 January 2024 10:53 at Babri Masjid. An older example of a bombastic deletion of content without evidence. Here Capitals00 reinstated the edits after having been reverted once by Vanamonde93
- 16 March 2024 16:49 at Indian independence movement. similar deletion of a well-known fact. Subhas Chandra Bose's name is mentioned in the body, including even a photograph.
- Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any
- 24 April 2017. A 72-hour block for disruptive editing.
- If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics)
- Alerted about discretionary sanctions or contentious topics in the area of conflict, on 31 August 2021, 9 June 2022 and 27 March 2024 (see the system log linked to above).
- Participated in process about the area of conflict (such as a request or appeal at AE, AN or an Arbitration Committee process page), on 24 July 2023.
- Additional comments by editor filing complaint
I have seen Abhishek0831996 occasionally, but the first interaction was on 27 March 2024, where in Diff 1 (in two parts), they deleted an {{unreliable source?}} tag on a historical claim made by a film reviewer, and then followed it with an even more rude and bombastic talk page comment (Diff 2). Given that this was the first interaction the user was having with me, I was quite taken aback. Since then I have seen this pattern being repeated at a number of other pages, particularly targeting the newish user, Haani40. Particularly egregious is today's revert (Diff 5), which is quite pointed. The corresponding explanation on the talk page (Diff 6) is meaningless.
Digging back into the edit history, I see a pattern of edits deleting apparently inconvenient content from pages with vague justifications, especially from the lead. This is followed by an effort to gaslight other editors when challenged on the talk page. The user displays an air of self-assured confidence, matched by contempt and ridicule for the other editors. The knowledge of relevant polices is practically non-existent.
Given that the user has been here long enough, it is time that they are held to account. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kautilya3 (talk • contribs)
- Interesting that Capitals00 finds fault with me placing a POV template on a faulty section. Surely they know that WP:NPOV is a fundamental pillar of Wikipedia? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Abhishek0831996's responses to the issues raised here continue to make red herring arguments of the same kind that are causing intermiable talk-page discussions, making any form of consensus-seeking impossible.
For example, for Diff 1, their response mentions a review in The Hindu and a news article in the The Guardian. But neither of these sources has made the specific historical claim that the contested source has. If they did, the user could have easily replaced the contested source with those, which they did not. And, the Diff 2, taken as a whole, is clearly a personal attack, but what is worse is that it is being used as a means of justifying the improper deletion of an {{unreliable source?}} tag. This is clearly an effort to bully editors. The only reasonable responses to the tag are either to replace the source with an acceptable one or to argue that the source is indeed reliable. Neither of these has been done.
As another example, for Diff 6, they claim that they have provided "scholarly sources", without bothering to mention that they are sources on Chinese foreign policy. The second source is in fact a biography of the Chinese premier. They have made no effort to assess whether the passages they quote are describing the scholars' independent assessments or whether they are just explainers of the Chinese policy. This seems like just a drive-by effort to google a particular POV, and cite whatever comes up without any understanding of the sources themselves.
On Diff 8, which is only a few months old, I maintain that is an improper deletion because no evidence of any "dispute" has been provided, either in the edit summary or on the talk page, for deleting long-standing content in the lead. But this is only one instance of a persistent pattern.-- Kautilya3 (talk) 00:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested
Discussion concerning Abhishek0831996
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Statement by Abhishek0831996
- 1st edit: I described that "Don't need HISTRS for stating a fact. The Hindu has also dismissed this episode of the movie, not just Deccan Herald." Kautilya3 has cropped my edit summary and cherrypicked just to suit his report. This movie has been criticised as a propaganda movie[19] and its episode on Sheikh Abdullah and Jawaharlal Nehru has been dismissed by The Hindu[20] and The Deccan Herald[21] but Kautilya3 is opposing this all based on his personal views, not backed by any sources, contrary to WP:OR.
- 2nd edit: Only for using the word "nonsensical" (which is not offensive), Kautilya3 went to falsely allege me of breaching WP:NPA.[22] This is a breach of WP:ASPERSIONS on Kautilya3's part.
- 3rd edit: There is nothing "meaningless" about this edit summary. Also, what tag-teaming? I am editing this article since 2 March 2024.
- 4th edit: The message I was responding to, "We will revert you and even seek mediation if you continue your edit war" reeks of WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality since it promises to edit war and falsely accuses of an "edit war" that wasn't even happening for days.[23] Now Kautilya3's false claim on this report that I am "claiming that "Kashmir" is not the "princely state"," is outright misleading. I am instead saying: "None of this confirms if this princely state controlled Aksai Chin".[24]
- 5th edit: I was restoring the last stable version against the unconstructive edits that had been also reverted by another editor some hours ago.[25] It is wrong to preserve misleading edits on these highly controversial articles.
- 6th edit: An article and a geographical dictionary cannot be used for challenging the article that is built on scholarly sources. On talk page I had myself provided scholarly sources (including the one from Harvard University Press) to rebuke these edits but these sources have been wrongly demeaned as "Chinese views" by Kautilya3.[26]
- 7th edit: This is yet another movie just like Article 370 that has been criticised as a propaganda movie created to promote the cause of the Bharatiya Janta Party [27][28] and it has been also criticised for distorting history.[29] After knowing this you won't see anything wrong with that edit.
- 8th edit: Nothing wrong with this edit. Yes it is disputed that who placed the idols of Ram and Sita in 1949. Some Indian officials claim they placed the idols,[30] and the activists belonging to Nirmohi Akhara,[31] Hindu Mahasabha[32][33] have either claimed or they have been alleged to have placed the idols. This is why many sources simply avoid giving credit to any particular entity.[34]
- 9th edit: Kautiya3 is falsifying this edit as well. The Wiki text concerns those who are "the leading followers of Gandhi's ideology". Subhas Chandra Bose has been instead criticised for departing from Gandhi's ideology and making alliance with the Nazis and fascists as noted at Subhas Chandra Bose#Anti-semitism; "How did a man who started his political career at the feet of Gandhi end up with Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo? Even in the case of Mussolini and Tojo, the gravity of the dilemma pales in comparison to that posed by his association with Hitler and the Nazi leadership."
It is safe to conclude that the entire report is baseless and it rather speaks against Kautilya3 himself. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 15:23, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Statement by (Haani40)
I am new here but since a notice was posted on my Talk page, I feel compelled to comment here. Capitals00 and Abhishek0831996 who Kautilya3 is complaining about here have both been indulging in extremely biased editing, many times in tandem. I agree with all that Kautilya3 has stated above. I suggest that both of them should be sanctioned. Please see the multiple warnings on the Talk page of User_talk:Capitals00
- Removal of sourced content that was using a Reliable source diff
- Restoring the word, "propaganda" without a reliable source diff
- Restoring edit of Capitals00 with bombastic edit summary, "No rule that only Historians can call out outright distortion of history" diff
- False claim that India never controlled Aksai Chin diff
- Removing Aksai Chin from the "Today part of" section of the infobox at the Jammu_and_Kashmir_(princely_state) article diff which Curious man123 reverted.
- After reading the allegations of Capitals00 below, I state that I am new here but learning the rules. I have placed the {{this is a new user}} template on the top of my Talk page. I have read the wikipedia polices and guidelines mentioned at WP:PG. I observe that every few days, a new rule is being mentioned. I will however abide by all the rules. Kautilya3 has stated that those edits are his here but Capitals00 is alleging that it is mine, so he must be directed to read WP:DONTBITE
- I have also read the five pillars of Wikipedia after Kautilya3 mentioned it on my Talk page.
- In his reply above, Abhishek0831996 has repeated his false claim, "I am instead saying: None of this confirms if this princely state controlled Aksai Chin".[35]
- Capitals00 has again reverted Kautilya3 here - it certainly looks like he and Abhishek0831996 are working in tandem to get their viewpoint added which is a false claim that India never controlled Aksai Chin.Haani40 (talk) 06:28, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- In his reply above, Abhishek0831996 has repeated his false claim, "I am instead saying: None of this confirms if this princely state controlled Aksai Chin".[35]
- I have also read the five pillars of Wikipedia after Kautilya3 mentioned it on my Talk page.
Statement by Capitals00
Anyone can understand the above editor Haani40's conduct by looking at these edits that already beyond WP:BATTLE,[36][37] and even WP:CIR.[38][39]
While there is no doubt that Kautilya3 is unnecessarily putting up defense for the edits of Haani40, his own conduct has been poor. His unnecessary tagging and edit warring against the mainstream facts supported by the reliable sources[40][41][42] has been disruptive and his pure reliance on his own original thoughts by rejecting the reliable sources is also commonly observed on the said disputes.[43] This report filed by him is similarly frivolous since it aims to create the worst meaning of each and every diff he has cited. He hasn't mentioned that other editors have also made the similar reverts[44][45] against their will on the cited pages.
I expect a warning for the filer Kautilya3 to stop misusing this noticeboard for winning the content disputes. He has been already warned before for casting aspersions on other editors and this sanction was never appealed.[46] Capitals00 (talk) 19:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Statement by (Bookku)
I suppose I am most likely to be uninvolved in most of the above cited articles (without any interest in any specific side). I used word 'likely' since I have not opened many of cited difs. Also usually films do not top my WP MOS understanding and interest.
Here I am not commenting on specific merits of the case (emphasis added). As usual at this WP:ARE forum, intermittently I come to make good faith reminder; If for some reason discussions go off the track from content dispute usual preference should be, 'go back to the track of solving content disputes as per WP:DR' rather than personalizing them. As far as personal issues before any disputes coming at WP:ARE checking protocol mentioned @ WP:DDE also be considered important. |
- Some different facets Diff1
- Brief: MOS:FILMHIST says, "..If analysis is limited, links should be provided to historical or scientific articles so readers can read about topics based in reality after reading about the work of fiction that uses these topics with dramatic license. .."
Detail appreciation Diff1 issue
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- Did I not end up explaining content dispute aspect above, that's why my emphasis on WP:DDE protocol mentioned earlier.
- We all users being human it's very understandable we prefer to stick to more suitable positions and RS. To draw a parallel whether any one would appreciate that court judges getting influenced by media even if RS? Similarly in a role of encyclopedist do we not need to understand many of our perceptions and positions are being constructed by media and mediums around us and there may be need to revisit our own positions and do effort to understand from where other user's point is coming and can there be space for that?
- @Abhishek0831996 Yes it's true other users too may need introspection but when thing come to WP:ARE the tradition is it's about you and not others. My purpose is not to judge you on merit, other users are there for that. I suggest you revisiting statements like ".. Don't need HISTRS for stating a fact..." and read WP:TRUTH then confirm yourself by reading "..So, if you want to:..Explain what you are sure is the truth of a current or historical political, religious, or moral issue,.." from WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS, and inadvertently we do not go closer to WP:POVPUSH. In my own case when other users expressed concerns about my own editing it took me time to understand from where other users perceptions are coming and how I can revisit my editing in this collaborative environment and do better.
I hope this resolves appropriately and helpfully. Happy Wikipedia editing to all.
Bookku (talk) 06:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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Result concerning Abhishek0831996
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
- As is all too common in this area, there's a lot to review here; I'll try to when I get a chance. I will note up front that we almost certainly do not need more information to go through, and that the 500 word/20 diff limit on this request will be very strictly enforced. If you must add additional commentary, please keep it brief. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:15, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Rp2006
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Request concerning Rp2006
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- ScottishFinnishRadish (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 12:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Rp2006 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing#Rp2006 topic ban (2), indefinitely topic banned from edits related to living people associated with or of interest to scientific skepticism, broadly construed.
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 15 April 2022, an edit about at Havana syndrome about Robert Bartholomew, he writes for several newspapers and journals on sociological and fringe science topics, including Psychology Today, Skeptical Inquirer, and British magazines The Skeptic and Fortean Times.
- 15 April 2022, explicitly warned about edits about Bartholomew at Havana syndrome on their talk page, clarification of topic ban provided.
- Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive306#Rp2006, 12 June 2022,
Rp2006 is advised to use more caution in regards to following the topic ban when editing in areas where it may apply; no other action taken
following a technical violation. - 21 January 2023, an edit about a living person of interest to the skeptic community.
- 27-28 January 2023, warned about violations on their talk page.
- 1 March 2023, topic ban violation at David Paulides.
- 4 March 2023, warning about that violation.
- Special:Undelete/User:Rp2006/sandbox/Biddle, 20 December 2023, 17 July 2023, 30 September 2022, admin-only, page since deleted, edits about Kenneth "Kenny" Biddle, an author, skeptical investigator of paranormal claims.
- 6 February 2024, adding Wikiproject Skepticism to a BLP.
- 6-7 February 2024, talk page warnings about violations
- 2 April 2024, an edit about Robert Bartholomew at Havana syndrome.
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After at least 5 warnings, both on their talk page and at AE, topic ban violations continue. I've been wearing kid's gloves with my handling of this, but after years of violations and warnings I think we've reached the point where something more concrete should be done. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Disagreeing with a sanction from Arbcom is not a reason to ignore it. The not understanding the limits doesn't really wash after it's been explained by multiple editors multiple times. We expect all editors who are topic banned to stay away from the edges of their bans, and to ask questions if they're unsure.
- The diffs above are also not the only violations. Taking a look through there are more that pop up, like [47]. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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Discussion concerning Rp2006
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Statement by Rp2006
My understanding was - due the perceived violation of rules on two BLPs of two people of interest to the skeptic community - one a self-professed medium, and another a science communicator who renounced the title skeptic) that the ban's intention was to prevent two things. One being me putting negative material (although true) on BLPs of those investigated or debunked by skeptics (such as the aforementioned "medium"), and the other to avoid promoting skeptics on their own BLPs. I have avoided doing either in the years since the ban was initiated.
It was my impression from the start that the ban was over-reaching, and even worse, vague -- and so I was likely to unintentionally violate it if I kept editing Wikipedia at all. And as my goal is still to improve the encyclopedia, that is just what happened as I keep editing. In some cases I just wasn't thinking - as in the Paulides case where I added some citations I think. After being warned I gladly reverted saying: "Oops. Ya got me. I (erroneously) think of Paulides page as a topic page and not a BLP because the important content is all about the 411 conspiracy theory he invented and perpetuates -- and not Paulides himself. And 411 were what my edits were addressing... new info about that. This topic really should be a separate page BTW! But yes, it's my error... So, I will revert!"
Most of the other violations were also things I had not considered relevant... discussion on talk pages and the like, and mentioning a person on a topic page. Most recently this adding relevant information on Havana Syndrome's Talk (an article I have edited almost since its creation) regarding discussing an actual scientist's perspective (he does not call himself a skeptic) on his area of expertise.
IMHO, the ban wording "edits related to living people associated with or of interest to scientific skepticism, broadly construed" is confusingly broad. This could - I suppose - depending on POV, include everyone from Trump, to RFK Jr., to Taylor Swift (there are conspiracies about her), and also include every living scientist, politician, medical professions, outspoken celebrity, etc... Who in this day and age is NOT of interest to scientific skepticism? What topic? It’s virtually impossible to write on any topic I am interested in (science) and not have someone claim I violated my ban. I was frankly surprised that I’ve written or greatly expanded many new articles (no BLPs, but all mention people “of interest to scientific skepticism, broadly construed”) since the ban and no one -- not even SFR -- claimed these were a violation. These include (King of Clones, Virulent: The Vaccine War, How to Become a Cult Leader, MH370: The Plane That Disappeared, Waco: American Apocalypse, The Phenomenon, Satan Wants You.
This vague ban gives me no clear way to know where the lines are, and the likelihood of crossing lines unintentionally is high. That this ban even included, according to SFR, updating an existing and outdated BLP article (someone has since published one) in my own sandbox (with a minor note) is beyond insane. That I should know such an edit was included in unreasonable, and that he even thought to list that here shows his state of mind.
This ban's vagueness gives wide ranging power to anyone wanting to slap me down. I believe this applies to SFR who was one of the two editors who essentially prosecuted the case against me, and since becoming an admin, has pursued his animosity towards me with at every turn, despite the "kid's gloves" claim just made here.
Let me close by stating that I believe I have not made any edits anywhere near close to the few edits that caused my ban in the first place in all the time that has passed since, and THAT should be what is considered now. My goal is and always has been to improve the encyclopedia. Taking a list of "gotchas" from SFR as a reason to extend or deepen the ban seems unfair. In fact, if it is agreed that I am correct in that assessment, the ban should be lifted at this point. Rp2006 (talk) 06:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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Result concerning Rp2006
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- There's only so many times we can say "Hey, stop doing that" before we conclude that an editor is either unable or unwilling to follow an editing restriction. Rp2006, I'd like to hear from you, because the alternative at that point is normally a lengthy or indefinite block. I'm willing to hear you out, especially because that's certainly not something I'm happy about, but there's a fair chance that's what we'd be looking at here. You've had a lot more chances than most get before blocks start to be imposed. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:12, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rp2006's response above makes me believe that a block is necessary the next time they violate the restriction. They clearly will never accept they were sanctioned for a good reason, and this is not a hard sanction to understand (and they could ask for clarification, but of course they aren't going to, because they'd rather pretend like the sanction doesn't exist.) SFR has treated them with kid gloves, because the fair and reasonable thing would be to block the editor repeatedly violating the arbitration finding against them, not just keep warning them away. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 12:09, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Burrobert
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Request concerning Burrobert
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- BilledMammal (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 13:35, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Burrobert (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 06:30, 7 April 2024, re-implementing 20:04, 6 April 2024 on Julian Assange
There are two specific changes here that are disputed and per the "consensus required" restriction applied to this article, require consensus:
- A recent RfC found a consensus that we should include the claim that Assange said informants "deserve to die", attributed in line to David Leigh, Declan Walsh, and Luke Harding. This change removes this attribution, instead saying that Walsh and Harding said that Leigh said that Assange said the quote.
- It re-adds a statement from Goetz denying that Assange made the statement.
There is a discussion on the talk page about this, and Burrobert says that this establishes consensus for his changes, but I disagree:
- For the attribution, only Burrobert and NadVolum supported the change. This is insufficient to establish a consensus even in the absence of the existing consensus.
- For the Goetz statement, Burrobert, NadVolum, and - only after the initial request to self-revert was made and refused - Cambial Yellowing support it. While closer to consensus than the attribution, I don't see a consensus here.
For both, I am the only editor opposing in the current discussion. I have requested they self-revert and they have refused.
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BM had previously disputed its inclusion but did not participate in the discussion until after the consensus about Goetz' statment was implemented on 7 April
, I did not have time for Wikipedia between the 1st and the 7th. BilledMammal (talk) 14:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)- I'm not sure whose time sheet you are looking at, but I made no edits on the 2nd. However, I don't think it matters - the point is that you can't claim a consensus solely based on two editors agreeing, even if there is a week between opposition to those editors position. BilledMammal (talk) 15:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- The edits you link were made on the first; are you using the "Time Offset" feature to give your local time rather than UTC? BilledMammal (talk) 15:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure whose time sheet you are looking at, but I made no edits on the 2nd. However, I don't think it matters - the point is that you can't claim a consensus solely based on two editors agreeing, even if there is a week between opposition to those editors position. BilledMammal (talk) 15:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- @NadVolum: Can you clarify what you are insinuating with your last two sentences? BilledMammal (talk) 08:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- You claim that, a month after my discussion with FortunateSons, I came to an article that you hadn't edited in three months for the purpose of "trying to find ways to cause trouble for [you]"?
- It's an absurd claim - an WP:ASPERSION based on assumptions of bad faith - and I ask that you strike it. The real reason I came to the article was because I read an article in the New York Times. BilledMammal (talk) 10:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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Discussion concerning Burrobert
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Statement by Burrobert
Here is my interpretation of the sequence of events:
- An RfC determined that Julian Assange's bio should include an alleged quote. The closing editor stated that "there is consensus to include the quote alongside appropriate context, inline attribution (not in wikivoice), and Assange's denial". The closing editor did not say what attribution to use when presenting the quote to readers, although BM did include a suggested attribution in the statement of the RfC. My interpretation of the closing statement is that details of the attribution should be discussed as part of the "appropriate context".
- BilledMammal started a talk page section entitled Removal of Nick Davies on 27 March. As part of that discussion editors talked about how they should attribute the quote. A consensus formed that it should be presented along the lines: "In their book WikiLeaks: Inside Julian Assange's War on Secrecy they say Declan Walsh heard Assange say at a dinner when asked about redaction "Well, they’re informants ... ". After their initial comment, BM did not participate in the discussion until after consensus was implemented. NadVolum implemented the consensus on 7 April. BM reverted NadVolum's edit within a few hours and I reverted BM's reversion because I believed BM was editing against consensus.
- Goetz' statement was not part of the RfC but was discussed within the talk page section "Removal_of_Nick_Davies". The only editors who mentioned the statement (me and NadVolum) believed it should be included. BM had previously disputed its inclusion but did not participate in the discussion until after the consensus about Goetz' statment was implemented on 7 April.
- BM started a discussion on my talk page after I reverted their edit. Some of the above points are covered there. Burrobert (talk) 14:09, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- It does not matter why BM did not participate in the discussion which led to a consensus. BM's editing history does show some extensive editing on 2 April, by which time editors had already started discussing the inclusion of Goetz' statement and the error in attributing the alleged quote to Leigh, Harding and Walsh. Burrobert (talk) 14:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- The edits made by BM on 2 April start at [48] and end at [49]. There are around 25 edits on that date. There was an 11 day gap between when the discussion was opened on 27 March and when a consensus was implemented on 7 April. The discussion involved three editors, me NadVolum and Jack_Upland. Jack did say at one stage "We could say they reported it". On 4 April, I said "Yes, we should say that the claim about what Walsh said is from Leigh and Harding, possibly mentioning their book". I suggested that we use something like "Leigh and Harding wrote that Walsh told them Assange said ""Well, they’re informants ..." and said "Unless someone comes up with an objection, I will make an attempt at improving the way in which this anecdote is related to the reader". Jack responded "You don't need permission to edit the page, comrade". Jack is more than capable of speaking for himself, but my interpretation of Jack's comment is that he did not object to my suggested change. As it turned out, NadVolum implemented the suggestion before me. Burrobert (talk) 15:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- It does not matter why BM did not participate in the discussion which led to a consensus. BM's editing history does show some extensive editing on 2 April, by which time editors had already started discussing the inclusion of Goetz' statement and the error in attributing the alleged quote to Leigh, Harding and Walsh. Burrobert (talk) 14:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Statement by NadVolum
It's strange this was brought againt Burrobert since I made the more recent changes. I only found this because I was mentioned above. As far as I can see the changes I made all follow the RfC. Exactly how long are editors on Wikipedia supposed to hang around waiting for BilledMammal to show up again in a discussion or to complain about their edits being changed - and more concerningly for me I notice BilledMammal turned up at the article on Assange after User talk:BilledMammal#Hey, I am looking for a second opinion on a user we both have encountered, could you (as a more experienced person editor who already interacted with them) take a quick look whether their actions have reached the point of warranting more substantive actions being taken? which is about me. The two in that discussion are major contributors to a proxy Israel-Hamas war at WP:RSN. NadVolum (talk) 08:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
In reply to BilledMammal my feeling is that after you fixed up an AE request on me in preparation and "Instead, I would recommend sitting back and seeing how they behave, and if there are further issues then bringing the whole lot to AE" you followed me to the Julian Assange article with the intent of trying to find ways to cause trouble for me on Wikipedia. NadVolum (talk) 09:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)- I see they posted the change on the article page before my contribution and my last contribution was eight days previously to the talk page so I accept they got there from reading about in NYT. My apologies. There's lots of people who feel deeply about the business so they'd put in something damningg about Assange but remove a witness saying otherwise. NadVolum (talk) 10:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- To FortunateSons I made no aspersions against you except in so far as I said you are a major contributor to a lot of the current discussion at FTN on material favorable to or against one side or the other in the Israel-Hamas war, that is what I see as the background of your request to BilledMammal. NadVolum (talk) 11:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Statement by TarnishedPath
I was involved in that RfC and I can't for the life of me see any wrongdoing by Burrobert. BM has not presented any diffs that show any editing that is not in line with the RfC close. Unless there's additional diffs to be presented which show anything else I don't see that there's anything to be answered here. TarnishedPathtalk 09:04, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Statement by FortunateSons
I was uninvolved in the original dispute, but got added here because I (in my opinion, appropriately) requested the assistance of a more experienced user in addition to an admin when encountering a conduct-dispute. As I did not edit the disputed articles here and chose not to file the request, I see no relationship between me and the action at hand and would kindly request clarification from NadVolum what exactly my request regarding him has to do with this, as well as to strike any aspersions against me. In particular, now as I gained more experience, I still believe that the comments made by BilledMammal are both appropriate and deescalatory. FortunateSons (talk) 10:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for striking your claim, including of me being a major contributor[s] to a proxy Israel-Hamas war at WP:RSN. FortunateSons (talk) 11:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Bakbik1234
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- Bakbik1234 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – Bakbik1234 (talk) 17:13, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Topic ban from the Arab–Israeli conflict.
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- Doug Weller (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
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Statement by Bakbik1234
I'm ethnically Jewish but it doesn't mean that my coverage of the conflict can't be neutral. I write everything from a neutral point of view that would be described as "liberal" by both neo-Zionists and neo-antisemites.
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Statement by 331dot
Doug Weller I thought you issued the ban. I think I just pointed it out later. 331dot (talk) 21:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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Statement by Jéské Couriano
Your personal POV is irrelevant when it comes to whether or not a topic-ban is justified; what matters is your behaviour in the topic area. It isn't what you're saying, it's how you're saying it. This appeal completely misses the forest for the trees. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Source assessment notes 17:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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Result of the appeal by Bakbik1234
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- Ban aside, Bakbik1234 has not reached extended-confirmed and thus is not allowed to edit topics related to I/P broadly construed regardless. The ban is not meaningless, in that it will have an effect once Bakbik1234 reaches extended-confirmed, but it's wholly inappropriate to be appealing it at this time. Demonstrate that you understand how to abide by Wikipedia policy and guidelines, demonstrate that you understand the extent of additional restrictions that apply to this topic, reach 500 edits, and only then consider appealing the ban. signed, Rosguill talk 18:05, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Concur strongly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Bakbik1234 continues to violate their ban and non ECP status. I warned them and said I’d give them a pass, but they’ve continued. A few minutes after filing this appeal they asked if they were still banned. I don’t think they are competent enough to edit within the constraints of the ban.
It was User:331dot who gave them the ban.Doug Weller talk 21:03, 10 April 2024 (UTC)- Oops. I wasa bout to write that I wasn't sure if I should be posting in this section as I was the one who banned them, had a moment of doubt, looked at their talk page history and saw 331dot's name so deleted that and added their name. Embarassing to say the least! Doug Weller talk 06:55, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Bakbik1234 continues to violate their ban and non ECP status. I warned them and said I’d give them a pass, but they’ve continued. A few minutes after filing this appeal they asked if they were still banned. I don’t think they are competent enough to edit within the constraints of the ban.
- Concur strongly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Kashmiri
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- BilledMammal (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 07:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles#ARBPIA General Sanctions
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Result concerning Kashmiri
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.
- I've topic banned Kashmiri for a week for the 1RR breach and not reverting after being notified. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Kashmiri I had originally intended to comment and encourage you to self-revert and explain until I saw that you had effectively been given that opportunity a few days ago. I have, however, left this thread open so that you, and others, can comment. That might include presenting a case that the sanction is unnecessary. Further, on 'out of process', any uninvolved admin can apply any sanction at any stage. The purpose of this board is to report potential breaches and then allow admins to discuss potential responses if they need to. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:07, 11 April 2024 (UTC)