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New section about... something[edit]

Response to the below: This information would belong on the Talk page for this article, if anywhere. If the article doesn't exist yet you can create it by following these links: See Help:Starting a new page. You might also want to read Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Antonrojo 04:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


The Readers & Editors pl. bear with me. I am using editing for the first time and am likely to miss the correct page.

I want to add to : Swadhyay or Pandurang Shashtri Athavale.

I was associated with Swadhyay or Pandurang Shashtri Athavale in the activities appearing on is created by The Office of Swadhyay and/or Pandurang Shashtri Athavale.

There are controversial claims about Swadhyay or Pandurang Shashtri Athavale and there is a clash between editors whether to add a particular matter or not.

If a thing can be defined with the help of physics or chemistry, it can be decided whether a particular thing can be added or removed. So can not be done for a human being or social or religious activities.

From the time June, 2000, there is deviation from what is claimed on Even prior to June,2000, the image of Pandurang Shashtri Athavale or Swadhyay was always glorified or exaggerated.

I am not out to defame Pandurang Shashtri Athavale or lower the image of Swadhyay. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and changing facts have to be incorporated in it.

Late Mr.Pandurang Shashtri Athavale is popularly known as Dada. Dada means elder brother in Marathi - An Indian Language spoken in State of Maharashtra. Here-in-after, I shall refer Pandurang Shashtri Athavale as Dada. Dada gave discourses upon message of Srimad Bhagwad Geeta - A scripture of Hindus. He motivated people to use one's god gifted abilities to speak, move, think, hear for selfless work which he called Kruti-Bhakti. Based on this principle/logic his followers known as Swadhyayees moved from house to house and went to Indian villages at one's own cost and spreaded the message of Srimad Bhagwad Geeta and nurtured these activities. The number of followers went on increasing and at present it could be in millions but that does not necessarily mean that the followers observe dictates of Srimad Bhagwad Geeta henceforth shall be referred to as Geeta.

Dada also motivated Swadhyayees to involve in money producing experiments for spread of renovation of Vedic culture. Experiments known as "Yogeshwar Krushi", "Shree Darshan", "Vruksh-Mandir", "Amrutalayams", "Matsya-Gandha" and so on. The financial returns along with donations received were collected in nearly 100 trusts created for Swadhyay activities. The trustees were dedicated Swadhyayees and Dada was not a trustee. Dada used to say that The President of Swadhyay activities was God (Lord Yogeshwar).

Around June, 2000, Dada told trustees that The Swadhyay activities were his ownership and he was handing over reign of These activities to her adopted daughter Smt.Jayshree a.k.a. Dhanshree Srinivas Talwakar popularly known as DidiSwadhyayee 03:24, 30 August 2006 (UTC). Simultaneously, all the neutral trustees from all trusts were removed and replaced by Didi and her husband Srinivas Talwalkar a.k.a. Rao Saheb. Dada used to take blank resignation letters from the trustees in advance.Reply[reply]

This was not well received by old dedicated Swadhyayees who had helped in foundation and nurture of these activities from day 1.

This was protested by old Swadhyayees and it resulted in violent attacks on old Swadhyayees by comperatively new Swadhyayees. The first attempt had taken place on 28th January, 2001 on Mahesh Shah an industrialist.

After an year, In June, 2001, The Hon. Ex-Chief Justice of High Court at Ahmedabad and Andhra Pradesh declared to media that Didi was using money and muscle power against old Swadhyayees, therefore he was submitting his resignation to Dada. He told the media that The funds of the trust in securities were valued at Indian Rupees Two Hundred Crores and property valued at Indian Rupees Five Hundred Crores. All the facts here-in are documented in Indian Newspapers. This fact had appeared first in "Gujarat Samachar" and later in all Gujarati newspapers.

Subsequently, number of old Swadhyayees became victims of violence and faced false criminal cases. The criminal cases were over 100 filed in rural Gujarat & Maharashtra ( Indian States) against various old Swadhyayees and/or ex-trustees. In 22 identical cases, an appeal was preferred by one Pankaj Trivedi and others in High Court at Ahmedabad. The High Court ruled in the matter in favour of Pankaj Trivedi and quashed all criminal cases at one go. The High Court further observed and recorded that the language of all 22 cases were word by word same and cases had been filed by different persons miles away from each other. The Court hence stated that the cases were filed in retalliation of bonafide civil case filed by Pankaj Trivedi for opening of a temple which was closed down by Didi to harass Pankaj Trivedi. The temple at Bhav-Nirjar, Ahmedabad had come in existence with the help of Pankaj Trivedi. The Judgement is documentary evidence and can be varified from The High Court at Ahmedabad.

Those who were assaulted and their bones broken are Vinod Shah, Shankar Thakkar of Mumbai, Vinoo Sanchania of London while he was in Jamnagar, Gujarat, India. One Satish Rughani of Rajkot was assaulted in his house. He just came out after bath and his towel was thrown and he was naked. His wife was locked up in other room. Satish Rughani had accompanied Dada for receiving Megsasay Award.

Some of the old Swadhyayees were arrested like core criminals by police from other states and brutally beaten on the way to the state of police and in lock-up too against the legal provisions not to use 3rd degree for confession.

On court dates or while the arrested were presented before The Magistrate, thousands of Swadhyayees from villages were summoned to the court who tried to kill some of the arrested old Swadhyayees. Usually, police had to resort to cane charging to disperse the mob and protect the arresteds lives.

All these facts are documented by newspapers. Cases were filed against number of newspapers by Swadhyayees for reporting such un-becoming attitude of Swadhyayees against old Swadhyayees. The Press Council of India decided in favour of newspapers. In English, a magazine "India Today" had published an article highlighting wrongs of Swadhyay.

Pankaj Trivedi was killed on 15th June, 2006 outside Ellisbridge Gymkhana, Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India. The police arrested eight to ten senior Swadhyayees. One of them was Ghanshyam Chudasama, P.A. to Dy. Comm. of Police under whose jurisdiction Pankaj Trivedi was killed. Ghanshyam Chudasama was working with some other office and using some influence, he had got himself transferred to Dy. Comm. of Police. As confessed by him, the plot to kill Pankaj Trivedi took place in The High Court premises when the order in favour of Pankaj Trivedi was passed.

Pankaj Trivedi was a green card holder and shuttling between U.S.A. and India. He went to U.S.A. just about 3 months before his life was taken away. He was harassed at U.S. air-port. When he came out of air-port, 4 white-skin people in uniform accosted him and warned of not to speak a word about Swadhyay wrongs while he was to stay in U.S.A.

Next day, Home Security Agency raided Pankaj Trivedi's house in U.S. A. as some one has printed some writing in Urdu with his photo along with photo of Bin Laden and this writing was passed to U.S.A. police stating that Pankaj Trivedi was a Bin Laden associate and threat to President Bush. Home Security Agencied investigated this matter and found Pankaj Trivedi was innocent. These facts can be varified from Home Security Agency, U.S.A.


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If anyone can edit wikipedia, how do we know the information is legitimate? Does anyone verify the material before it goes live? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

In theory, you can't know. In practice, thousands of people read Wikipedia every day, and there is a good chance that false information is spotted within days, sometimes even within minutes, and corrected or removed. Some false information does get through, however. There is no official pre-validation process. For example, I could claim right now that George W. Bush is a mutant man-eating reptile from Dseta Persei VIII and it would go straight to Wikipedia before getting corrected or removed. JIP | Talk 12:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Verifiability is a core policy of Wikipedia. Our featured articles (considered to be our best articles) cite all non obvious statements from reliable sources. Wikipedia itself is a tertiary source, which means the articles can only have content that is already published elsewhere (not verbatim copied, of course. That would be copyright violation). If you see a dubious statement in any article in wikipedia, feel free to place a {{fact}} tag on it. Dont forget to explain your rationale on the article's talk page. That's how we are building Wikipedia, step by step -- Lost(talk) 13:03, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Also see Wikipedia:Replies to common objections. Keep in mind that even sources that are written by a single person are often incorrect (they have no one to correct them). Even Encyclopedia Britannica isn't infallible. Keep a healthy dose of skepticism to anything you read and track down the sources for any dubious statements. - Mgm|(talk) 15:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright violation[edit]

Hi, I saw copying an entire article from wikipedia (weepul) without naming the source. What to do? SietskeEN 12:43, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Under GFDL, one may copy and distribute the wikipedia content in any medium, either commercially or noncommercially, provided that the license, the copyright notices, and the license notice saying this License applies to the content are reproduced in all copies, and that the blog add no other conditions whatsoever to those of this License. - You can communicate this to the owner of the blog. Due to the nature of the internet, I doubt much else can be done -- Lost(talk) 12:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, I already tried the reaction form. Hopefully this helps... SietskeEN 13:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Problem with references (citations) in article (relisting)[edit]


I am having difficulty citing sources in the article Muqattaat. If you look at the article, you will see that there are some places where the text is Right-to-left. The first citation follows an rtl character, and thus renders that part of the text unreadable with characters overlapping each other here and there.

The second issue is that the references do not actually appear at the end of the article.

If someone can help with these problems, it'd be great.

Thanks, Omer

The references are now appearing. So the second issue is resolved. I dont know about the rtl part though. The article is Muqatta'at -- Lost(talk) 14:30, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. Now I figure that you have to add a special references section. Any ideas where could I find help for the first issue. Omer 16:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just bear for some time. It will be answered by an experienced editor on this very forum -- Lost(talk) 17:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I have cut/pasted this from above as one part of the question is still unanswered -- Lost(talk) 13:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Does this image have copyrights[edit]

I found this following image, it is a picture of a monument; does it have copyrights? Thanks in advance, Read3r 13:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The copyright will belong to whoever took the photograph. Shimgray | talk | 13:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the quick answer, i find another picture in this following site. the site says that people may copy the content of the site providing that they refer to the source (their site). My second question is: do i get automatically the premission by adding the name of the site on the image? Thanks in advance, Read3r 13:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I can't find the stuff you said on the site itself. My Arabic is a bit rusty, so I had to open the entire thing in English, but I don't know where the permission was located. Mentioning the site each time you use the image is called attribution. And as far as I can tell from the info you provided you'd get permission. The site looks reliable, which is also important you need to be reasonably sure they do actually have permission to give those right away. When you upload the image, make sure you add both the location of the image to the location of the permission to the image description page. - Mgm|(talk) 15:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Shock Absorbing Tennis Rackets[edit]

Which rackets are the best for minimizing the vibration from contacting the ball. I'd like to get manufacturer and models. 14:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. - Tangotango 14:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Steve Irwin[edit]

How can the filthy language be deleted from his biography?

Respectfully, Ione —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ionehill (talkcontribs)

It is a semi protected article. New and unregistered users cannot edit such articles. Just mention the changes that you would like to be made on the talk page of the article. Since he is in news today, a lot of people would be editing/ reading the article -- Lost(talk) 16:19, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My articles don't stay[edit]

Some I have created like yesterday I started a david flores(jockey) page and today it is gone...not the link to start the page but the data implimented...the data doesn't stay but the link does quite contradictory if the data is bad wont the link be bad too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Friendlymat (talkcontribs)

From the deletion log [1]:
17:33, September 3, 2006 Mets501 (Talk | contribs) deleted "David Flores (jockey)" (content was: '{{db-bio}}Is a Jockey Primarily based in Southern California.David was born February, 5 1968 in Tijuana Mexico.His bio can...')
Which means someone tagged it for deletion and a administrator deleted it. If you beleive it was unfairly deleted, you can talk to Mets501 or take it to deletion review. You might also want to read WP:BIO. I hope this helps! GeorgeMoney (talk) 16:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

At the Open access article is this section of numbers/trivia, Open_access#Open_access_by_the_numbers. Should it be there? I've not seen anything like it elsewhere on Wikipedia, and it even makes reference to the reader, saying "If you know of numbers that measure the benefits, growth, or status of open access, please add them here". Since cross-namespace redirects are not allowed due to problems with forking and Wikipedia's wider aims as an encyclopedia, should this section not be removed? --Username132 (talk) 16:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Contributors to the article may be able to give you better answers to this. You could discuss it on the talk page of the article. Also a wikiproject giving guidelines on structure of articles on specific subjects might be helpful to you. You can find a list of projects here -- Lost(talk) 16:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Russian Tortoise page[edit]

Please check your Russian Tortoise page. It appears to have erroneous pictures (photos of penises) at the top. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Nope, false alarm -- Lost(talk) 17:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually, it was not a false alarm. I fixed it. Thanks to for letting us know. Brian 17:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)btballReply[reply]
The image had been replaced with Image:Testudo horsefieldii.jpg - which no longer exists. It's strange though, I can't find in the logs when and where it was deleted. I was trying to track back the vandalism to determine who actually vandalized the picture and deliver an appropriate warning. It appears that there was a valid image at one time and that this morning the valid image was vandalized with the above mentioned picture - now there is no picture... I replaced Image:Testudo horsefieldii.jpg with an image that had been used in an older version of the article, so I think it is fine now. I'll notify the uploader of the valid Tetsudo image that his image no longer exists, but I am really curious about why the logs don't show the deletion. Brian 17:45, 4 September 2006 (UTC)btballReply[reply]


Due to recent death Steve irwin I am sure many people are lookign up Stingrays on your website. The first thing that came ip was a picture of a mans penis. There is a second obcene picture under the first one.

YOU NEED TO DISABLE THIS LINK IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

The page has been semi-protected for now, so it won't be vandalized anymore. Grandmasterka 17:23, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Unfortunately, the vandalism seems to have been done on templates linked in the article. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:40, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Is it possible to change a username while still keeping all of my contribution records and current userpage? - mjg0503 18:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, simply put a request at Wikipedia:Changing username. Just remember *not* to register your new username yourself. Cheers, Tangotango 18:44, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Incorrect Link[edit]

Hi there,

I own , and noticed from my traffic statistics I was getting people referred from this page:

Obviously this page has nothing to do with me, so I think someone must have directed the link to me in error. I am not familiar with editing Wikipedia, so if someone could remove the link, or redirect it to its proper destination, that would be appreciated. I don't wish to be accused of 'stealing' traffic.

Thanks in advance, Robert. 19:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done, Thanks, Brian 19:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC)btballReply[reply]

Hypertext definition is neither neutral nor correct[edit]

My e-mail address is email address removed to prevent spam.

I am deeply distressed by the inaccurate definition of hypertext in that article with the same title. Since attending WikiSym 2006 I've decided that I want to post a comment in a discussion forum related to that page. It is not obvious to me how to do that.

The particular problem I have with the definition (aside from its shallowness) is that hypertext is defined in terms of an interface, as though it is merely an access mechanism.

I look forward to your reply. 00:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC) (Jamie Blustein)Reply[reply]

If you want to discuss the content of an article, go to the article itself, then up the top of the page look for a row of tabs labelled "article", "discussion", "edit this page", "history", etc. Click on the "discussion" tab, then click on the tab with a plus sign ("+") to add a new discussion section. Confusing Manifestation 01:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to Semi Protect[edit]

Hi helpdesk, Recent and repeated edits on the page Coalition casualties in Afghanistan by anon user with IP address is causing some problems. I want to semi protect so that the user will discuss his changes. Thanks in advance, Motorfix 01:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Probably best to list your concerns on WP:RFP. Confusing Manifestation 01:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


this is just a general question, but where on your site would I find when it was last updated, the name of the site author and editor, the author's or editor's e-mail address, the date of publication? Sorry for all of the questions but I need answers to them because I have to answer these questions on a web evaluation sheet. Thanks 02:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia for guidelines, suggestions, and examples. You can also click Cite this article in the toolbox on the left side of the page to automatically generate a bibliographic citation for an article in a number of standard formats. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 02:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


How do you make templates for articles?Mvp7 02:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The help is at Help:Template. If you'd prefer to ask someone else to create a template for you, there's a page for such requests at Wikipedia:Requested templates. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

case-sensitive searching[edit]


Love your site and the community aspects of it. My question is this: I have created a page about the famous California artist Elizabeth McGrath with her express permission. The page is now up and working, and if someone searches for it using the term "Elizabeth McGrath" (i.e. capitals in the right place), they are taken directly to the page. However, if someone searches for it using "elizabeth mcgrath", they are told that page does not exist. I have read over your FAQ and searched the Help area, but am not finding anything about how to make the lowercase name get users to the page I've created. I have done a search on other personages whose pages show up whether or not someone searches using capitals or not, so I know that it can be done. Any info and help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks for you time, ~Nefairia

Create the page Elizabeth Mcgrath whose sole content is "#REDIRECT [[Elizabeth McGrath]]". —Tamfang 03:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • When you use capitals and hit enter, it's not actually searching, you're brought to the page with the exact title you typed because you hit go. When you do not use capitals correctly, it will go in search mode, but since the article is recently created it is not yet in the search index. See WP:VFAQ (first entry). -Mgm|(talk) 04:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A NAME in wiki markup?[edit]

I'd like to use the <A NAME="01"> type tag in wiki markup to mark out specific pieces of text and refer back to them with links, but I don't want to use headings to achieve the effect. To make it clearer, I'll describe. I have headings giving dates; these I want to appear in the contents box. But I'd like to have a list of links below it, referring to smaller headings in the article but completely separate from the contents box.

So I need a way to mark out the headings I need and refer back to them with wiki links. This could be done in a snap on a normal webpage with A NAME, but since the tag is deprecated here, I'm hoping there's a way to replicate the effect. CNash 00:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm not sure I understand you correctly. You can link to any heading in an article, without doing anything special. For example this link links to this heading of this question. If you really need to duplicate the effect of the depreciated <A NAME="xxx">, you can use <span id="xxx">some text</span>. —da Pete (ばか) 10:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Accuracy of articles[edit]

I am pretty new to this site and am already impressed with the wealth of information in it.

However, the idea of any user being able to eidt any document disturbs me a bit. How can I be sure that any information I am referring to is accurate? Though I understand people keep 'cleaning' up the articles, I feel at any point of time there may be hundreds of articles that are not 'cleaned up' thus rendering them inaccurate If I or any one referenced them.

Please let me know.

Thanks ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gururaja murthy (talkcontribs) 12:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

As a rule, Wikipedia is not a "reliable source", and as such shouldn't be used as the main source of information in, say, an essay. However, that's not to say that the majority of the information in Wikipedia can't be trusted to a certain extent, as long as you always take it with a grain of salt. A few ways to ensure that what you're reading is likely to be trustable include:
  • Checking the edit history of the article to see whether there's been much dispute over the content, and also to see how many people have edited the page (in general, the more different people add information, the more likely it is that they've all looked at the existing information and found nothing wrong with it). You can do this by clicking on the "history" tab.
  • Reading the talk page of the article to see whether people have debated the content. You can see the talk page by clicking on the "talk" tab.
  • Comparing the content of the article with that in the sources. All good articles on Wikipedia are supposed to be properly sourced, with reliable sources, which generally appear at the bottom of the article under headings such as "External Links", "References", etc. While Wikipedia is not a reliable source, the links in these sections are supposed to be.
Also, if an article is a featured article or a good article, it is generally considered to be well-written, well-researched and well-sourced, so you can have more confidence in the content. Featured articles will have a little star next to their title, and a template on their talk page, good articles have just a template. Confusing Manifestation 01:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • You should take in every source of information with some good old critical thinking. Just because one person wrote it, doesn't mean it's any more accurate than a Wikipedia entry. Books and other websites can be written by ignorant people too and they'd have no one to correct them. See Wikipedia:Replies to common objections. Always try to verify your information by tracing where it came from (the references section on our articles). - Mgm|(talk) 04:47, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


This isn't about editing, but how do i make Wikipedia my Home Page? ````

Depends on your browser. In Firefox, there's a box in the first panel of the Preferences dialog. —Tamfang 03:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category - How to create ?[edit]

I find there is no Category on People of Bangladesh origin. How it is created? VMO 03:33, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Would this be different from Category:Bangladeshi people? To create such a category, this one might be a reasonable example to start from. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! Yes, this would be different in that people born in Bangladesh before the country came into being, that is in the erstwhile undivided India but no longer holding the present Bangladesh citizenship. But how to create it? VMO 17:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Is this a commonly understood distinction? I think I would call such people either Category:Indian people or Category:Bangladeshi people (although I suspect they are likely not Muslim, which may be why you're hesitating to use Category:Bangladeshi people). To get more input about this, I suggest you bring this up at Wikipedia talk:Notice board for India-related topics. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can't get my editing to work. HELP!!![edit]

I am trying to edit a list of Chicago Films by ADDING a new film entry to the Directory of Chicago films, under the letter "M". The edit button and ensuing page will not allow me to edit/add an entry to the alphabetical list of Chicago films. Can you please help? Thanks. Judith

Hi Judith. You must first create an article with the name of the film and then add a category link: [[Category:Chicago films]] as a part of the edit. Example: Candyman (film). The film will then be listed automatically in the 'uneditable' list. Also look at existing article pages for examples of additional appropriate film categories. --Profero 07:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Please note, you can only add films to categories if we have an article about them. An entry with only a category tag would get deleted. - Mgm|(talk) 09:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

add a link helper?[edit] I would aks or someone can put a link of my official webiste of Snowy white to the above site. Thanks Eelcoline

[spam proof]

  • No, sorry. Just because you played with that band, doesn't mean your site should be in the article about the other band. It's only tangentally related. Please see WP:EL for rules about external linking. - Mgm|(talk) 09:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

American Assassins; how to add name?[edit]

The subject page is an alphabetized list of American Assassins.

When I go into edit mode, I see nothing to add to.

How to add names?

FYI: The name I was intending to add is 'John Wilkes Booth', the assassin of Abraham Lincoln.

This is a Category. To add an article to this category, you place [[Category:American assassins]] at the bottom of the page of whatever article you want to add. You can do it here, on the John Wilkes Booth article. Chris M. 11:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

how to change the name of an entry?[edit]

I have created my first Wikipedia entry and now wish to change the capitalization of the entry's name. I can't seen to figure out how to edit the name of the entry, since it does not seem to appear in the edit window. Can anyone help me?


See WP:VFAQ#How do I change the name of an article.3F. Jacek Kendysz 15:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

how many countries in asia[edit]

kakal Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). For your convenience, here's the link: Reference Desk (when you get there, just select the relevant section, and ask away). I hope this helps. - Tangotango 15:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Getting Rid of Underlines Below Links[edit]

After I created a new wikipedia article, all the wikilinks in wikipedia now appear underlined. How do I get rid of the underlines and return the visual style to the way it was before? -Captain Crawdad 18:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#All links suddenly became underlined -- Lost(talk) 19:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Butler law firm[edit]

A lawer i retainted threw this station.Need to find him --new number and address, <help me>

This help desk is only for questions related to wikipedia. For all other questions, we would normally redirect to the reference desk, but I am not sure they will be able to help either in this case-- Lost(talk) 20:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

internal referencing of books, journals, etc[edit]

i am using the {{ref harvard...etc notation. but i do not know how it works.

i am simply copying what others have done.

do you have a reference site that explains the edfiting protocol using ref_harvard?? joe 20:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See Wikipedia:Harvard referencing. Do you need help in a particular article. Pls name it and we will try to edit on your behalf -- Lost(talk) 21:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Update: Template talk:Harvard reference explains the usage in great detail -- Lost(talk) 21:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Major article rewrite[edit]

If I want to do a major rewrite on an article (which is currently disorganized and full of extraneous information), is there a "sandbox" I can place the rewrite in so other editors can take a look at it and comment before I replace the current article? Beethoven05 21:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, you can use the Wikipedia:Sandbox but someone will mess it up. I would suggest creating the page User:Beethoven05/Sandbox and write it in there and no one will touch it. GeorgeMoney (talk) 21:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Excellent. Thanks for the quick response. Beethoven05 21:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Another alternative is creating the page User:Beethoven05/Articles/ArticleName and move the page to the real article space when you are done. GeorgeMoney (talk) 21:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If he's doing a rewrite of an article, he won't be able to move his sandbox version over the existing article. He'll have to ask an admin to do it for him. I do worry about losing the edit history if he just rewrites the article in his sandbox and then it gets moved. The best thing to do would be to rewrite it in his name space, then copy and paste it over the existing article, to keep the edit history. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • If an admin moves it over the existing article, they should delete it first, then undelete, but if indeed no one touches his rewrite, there's no reason to keep the entire history of his subpage. In such a case copy-paste is acceptable. - Mgm|(talk) 04:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

where my watchlist is saved[edit]

Will a larger number of items on my watchlist make the cookie on my computer a larger file? Dismas|(talk) 02:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, it's stored server-side. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. Dismas|(talk) 04:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


how do i delete my membership?Hw helper 07:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

At current, it's very difficult or impossible to delete accounts which have more than zero edits. There's nothing making you use the account, of course -- if you'd like to stop using it, nobody should get in your way, no? Sorry to see you go, but it is your choice to make. :) Luna Santin 07:29, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For more information, take a look at Wikipedia:Username#Deleting your user account and Right to vanish. — QuantumEleven 09:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template Editing[edit]

Where would I suggest an edit of an existing navigational template? --VGF11 00:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On the template's Talk page. User:Zoe|(talk) 01:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks. -- VGF11 22:25, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Picture copyright[edit]

Hi everyone!! So, I've got a website for a picture and I'd like to upload it. However, the copyright (at the bottom of the page), states "2000-2004 copyright" and "All Rights Reserved". So, is that means that I don't have to ask permission? As the copyright is just up to 2004. It confuses me since I joined Wikipedia. Here is the website, CLICK CLICK. Cheers --- Imoeng 10:52, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • No, the picture will be copyrighted as long as the photographer is alive and then some odd 70-100 additional years. The copyright notice is for the website itself, and they probably forgot to update it. You still need permission, not only for use on Wikipedia, but also elsewhere, our images need to be freely redistributable. If they don't want to release the image under a free license, you're out of luck. - Mgm|(talk) 11:05, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • What the "2000-2004 copyright" message means is that the material on the web page was created between 2000 and 2004. (The site was probably last updated in 2004.) In other words, those dates are when the copyright expiry clock started ticking—as Mgm notes above, it will be a long time (decades) before the copyright lapses. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 22:35, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

why is search not finding this article/page?[edit]

I thought that the "Go" and "Search" functions here are not case sensitive. However, when I enter "funtown" and hit "go", I find nothing. When I enter "FunTown" and hit "go" I see the page on FunTown. Is there a way to edit this page so that it will be found when people do not capitalize certain letters?

Thank you Mienbau 11:05, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • The Go button immediately sends you to the article with the exact name you typed. It is therefore case sensitive, because words may mean different things depending on how they are capitalized. (Boo versus BOO) Whether something is found when you hit search depends on when the search index was last updated. - Mgm|(talk) 12:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • I still have a problem with, say, the Effat College page not coming up when I do a Search (ora Go) on Effat. My search window comes up and says Results 1-3 of 3 but only two things show up. It will work if I use Go for Effat College, however it will not work for a Search for Effat College. Thoughts? DukeEGR93 04:04, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question[edit] 13:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)My Teacher is having the class do articles, as she calls them. To where we have to read mewspaper articles and write a summary about them. She also said that if we use internet sources to make sure that they are lagitimet. So I saw that your site has articles and I need to know for my teacher if your site is lagitimet.Reply[reply]

Thank You, Brandi Conner

Yes, the site is definitely legitimate. However, it is written by anybody and everybody. You can take the site as a beginning point for your summaries and then look for references within the site. You are also entitled to ask for references if you dont find them readily -- Lost(talk) 13:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pain Connection - Chronic Pain Outreach Center, Inc.[edit]

I am new to Wikipedia and am lost trying to figure out how to use it. I printed the above article to inform chronic pain patients and their families about available resources. One of the editors said it will be deleted. How do I then put Pain Connection's link under articles dealing with chronic pain, pain, fibromyalgia... as other agencies have? I did it last night but obviously did it wrong.

You can write articles on various subjects. However wikipedia is not a directory, so we cannot have resources and clinics listed here. That is considered spam. -- Lost(talk) 13:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleting image files[edit]

Sir, I uploaded a image file deliberately. But when it got uploaded I realised that the image file size was larger than I thought. Now I wish to delete that file and upload a smaller size file. The photo is breaking across the page. Also I would like to know if I can mention my website address for further details of the photographs.

Just put {{db-author}} on top of the image. It will get deleted by the admins. It is mandatory to mention the source of the photograph along with the copyright information. Please ensure that while uploading the newer version of the photograph -- Lost(talk) 14:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bear in mind that an editor can choose the size of an image on a page, and this does not have the horrible overheads of doing this on a regular site. In fact, it is often recommended to upload a large file for this reason. Notinasnaid 15:54, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, actually Notinasnaid is right. You dont need to delete an image just becuase its large. It can be resized in the article that you want to use it in. See Wikipedia:Picture tutorial -- Lost(talk) 16:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can't the editor just upload a new version over the one that's already there? User:Zoe|(talk) 03:22, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How can I become an admin?[edit]

And, can I at my current state? Thanks. Trosk 17:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, one needs to apply for adminship. There are no fixed rules for handing over adminship, but generally community consensus is what decides on who should be an admin. The community (various editors of wikipedia) have varied standards on whether they think a person should be an admin or not. Go through them and decide whether you think you can pass the expectations of various people. Also see this. My suggestion would be to keep doing good work and you will be ready soon enough -- Lost(talk) 17:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, can you give a quick opinion of me just to see if I should apply anytime soon? Trosk 17:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can you tell me why you would like to have adminship? (This is one of the first questions that you will be asked while applying) -- Lost(talk) 17:34, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, to tell you the truth, my main reason is I want to be able to deal with things when I start to see them. I hate having to wait for someone else to take care of them; to do it right, do it yourself.

My other reasons include having a little more respect, being an arguement resolver (something I enjoy for some reason), and, of course, having a back-up plan for when I am bored :) Trosk 17:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Personally, I dont think an adminship would succeed with these reasons, but then that's only my opinion. My suggestion would be to participate in WT:RFA and WP:ANI or atleast keep a track of them. They suggest a lot on what an admin generally needs to do and believe me its not as glamorous as you think it to be. There are of course other tasks that admins do, but they are even less glamorous -- Lost(talk) 17:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, ay this point, I'll try making an RfA....nothing to lose, everything to win. Trosk 17:50, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oh, one last question: will this position at all help with future job oppurtunities? Trosk 17:52, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is just a voluntary encyclopedia where even identities are not usually revealed. If your question is about a job in the real world, I dont see how this position will help you. -- Lost(talk) 17:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

While doing some language research I stumbled across several rather explicit photos of male genitalia at that link, that had absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the Austronesian language group. I was unable to remove them by trying to edit the page. Any clues on how to clean up the vandalism?

  • Generally speaking, vandalism of that particular type is usually removed within a minute. Try forcing your browser to refresh and it's probably gone before you get the time to report it. I think the bots that report vandalism to administrators are even programmed to notice the use of these images. Anyway, I couldn't find the vandalism you talked about. To cleanup try WP:REVERT or if you are not comfortable doing that yourself, use WP:AIV. - Mgm|(talk) 21:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I thought of that, but I couldn't see any obvious templates either. - Mgm|(talk) 04:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

delete my account[edit]

how do i delete my account? can u explain

Given the current software setup, it's very difficult or even impossible to delete accounts which have more than zero edits. It's probably easier for everybody if you just stop using it, instead. Sorry to see you go, but do bear in mind that the doors will always be open, should you choose to return to editing. :) Luna Santin 21:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It is almost impossible to delete your account. This is because all edits need to be attributed to someone, under the terms of the GFDL licence, which is how Wikipedia is licenced (aka we can't do it because of legal reasons). Sorry we can't really help you and we do hope you stay Harryboyles 11:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Can a Mediator from the Mediation Cabal bring their case to the Arbitration committee? WikieZach| talk 22:03, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I don't see why not. Just follow the procedure described at the arbcom page for how to format a case. - Mgm|(talk) 04:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi I have been trying to print the Dukes of Burgundy Family Tree, from the 9th centtury to 1482. I can see it, all pages but when it prints it only gives me 3 pages. Page 1 Header only, page 2 begins the family tree but only goes to Henry, bishop/hugh 1121-1170, 3rd page is begins with When Charles died... I would like all of this family tree. Please help.

Sharon <email removed>

Did you make sure that, when you printed, that you selected the "Print all" checkbox? Harryboyles 11:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Finding the Wikipedia Library for Templates[edit]

I can't seem to find the different 'templates' - specifically sports templates that are ready-made. I see them used in pages that are already established. Templates like '8TeamBracket', '16TeamBracket' and 'TwoLeg' I have seen being used, but I would like to know how to browse through the total library of wikepedia templates. Juveboy 01:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The total library is at Wikipedia:Template messages. WP 02:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How do I edit the title?[edit]

I recently submitted an article and I need to edit the title.

It shows up as Eric lofholm and I need the L in Lofholm to be capitalized.

Thank you!

See WP:MOVE for help moving pages (which is our mechanism for changing a page's title). If you have any further questions, feel free to ask, of course, either here or via a {{helpme}} at your talk page. Luna Santin 02:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Except, in this case you wait until you become notable and someone else writes an article about you with the correct capitalisation. -- RHaworth 03:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

words with 6 letters or less[edit]

How can I get a list of all english words using 6 letters or less

This Help Desk is for questions about using Wikipedia; you might want to ask at the Reference Desk instead. I can also suggest Google, since you are, after all, on the internet with a vast store of information at your fingertips. Good luck —Keakealani talkcontribs 03:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

schools in Germany in 1939[edit]

Hi, did you have a question? You can use the sandbox for more testing, or try the reference desk for questions about fact, history, or any of the RD categories. :) Luna Santin 03:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

removing misinformation[edit]

In an Article about Samual Francis it said that he wrote that the election of Barack Obama to the US senete was "deplorable" but in the cited article I couldnt find anywhere where Francis had said this.

I think it should be removed.

Regards, Darrin Lee

Then remove it yourself, or add a {{fact}} tag to the statement. — Dark Shikari talk/contribs 09:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Working on a book article and I have some information in the Dictionary of Literary Biography that I'd like to use in the article. Which cite template should be used for a source of this type (i.e. no author, only an editor)? Does one exist and if not, should it be created? MLA cite follows:

"Robert McCloskey," in Dictionary of Literary Biography, Volume 22: American Writers for Children, 1900-1960. A Bruccoli Clark Layman Book. Edited by John Cech, University of Florida. Gale Research, 1983, pp. 259-266.

Thanks in advance. — Scm83x hook 'em 07:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]



You will need to be a bit clearer with your question. If you just want to access the map, here is a link to some fine maps of India -- Lost(talk) 16:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I was reading the article about the Civilian Conservation Corps and in the section on CCC life there is a formatting problem. Part of the text is unreadable because of the placement of an image. I use Firefox. I checked it using MS Internet Explorer and it looks fine. I use the default setting in both browsers. I have no idea how to fix this. --Droll 08:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I think the image may have been too big for your browser window width. I adjusted it. Does this fix your problem? — Reinyday, 09:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Deleted edits[edit]

Does anyone know how to view a list of edits that you made on articles or pages that were later deleted? These edits don't show up in a user's contributions log. Thanks. Carcharoth 09:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Footnotes and style[edit]

The article "European Patent Convention" contains footnotes but also, in the core text, references to legal provisions. For instance:

"The EPC provides a legal framework for the granting of European patents (Article 2(1) EPC), via a single, harmonized procedure before the European Patent Office."

I would like to replace all direct references in the core text, such as "(Article 2(1) EPC)", by footnotes. IMHO this would make the article nicer to view and read. Boundlessly made however the comment that to reach the actual legal provision (outside Wikipedia), one needs two mouse clicks instead of one, one to reach the footnote and another one to reach the legal provision from the footnote (see his remarks here: Talk:European patent law#Cite form). On the other hand, IMHO again, using two browser windows or tabs could enable someone to easily reach the legal provision. With respect to style, is there a guideline or consensus regarding this? Thanks for your input. --Edcolins 10:22, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See Wikipedia:Citing sources#How and where to cite sources. It states that all styles are acceptable as long as you are consistent within the article. -- Lost(talk) 10:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Both styles are used in the article. Thus there is an inconsistency. The first type of style was the footnotes style ("If there is no agreement, prefer the style used by the first major contributor"). So, footnotes should be used for all citations. Is it correct? --Edcolins 11:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, thats what the style guide says. Go with the style used by the first major contributor. -- Lost(talk) 12:09, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. --Edcolins 12:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For a user looking for reliable answers, knowing why something is right is just as important as readign the statement. That's why style guides for legal citation encourage putting the cite right in-line with the text. That was what made hypertext links so revolutionary when they first came into being - in one click, you get to the referenced location, and in one "back" click you get back to exactly where you were. No fussy context, double windows, no remembering where you were before you went over to check, etc etc. Footnotes are a pain in the neck. You can instantly see the difference if you start to try to straighten out all the errors that have crept into the article in the last 6 weeks - if the citation to the Article is right there with the text, you can see the error and fix it much more easily.

Are we really thinking about the purpose of style rules before applying them automoton-ly? Go back to inline links. "First major contributors" occasionally make mistakes. "Nicer to view" is much less important than ease of access to the authoritative text, and ease of keeping the article correct. There was only one "ref" - why not conform the one outlier, instead of converting all but one to the less useful form? Boundlessly.

Listing articles that are in two categories[edit]

Is there a way to crossreference two categories so that you can see which articles fall under both? This is for looking at articles that are a stub that also are in another category. --chris_huh 10:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • The bottom of my userpage has a link to CatScan on the toolserver, that should be able to do this. - Mgm|(talk) 11:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

first law of thermoynamics applications for non flow procsess[edit]

derived and explain applications of first law of themodynamics for non flow process 11:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)11:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC) 11:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • We are not in the business of doing your homework, especially when it's in the wrong place. This page is for questions regarding Wikipedia. You are looking for the reference desk, but you need to be more specific to get any sort of useful answer. Also, this is not a search engine. Writing in full sentences and saying please will improve the chances of your question getting answered. - Mgm|(talk) 11:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image:Q94 money magnets.jpg[edit]

It came to my atention that I did not have "copyright" information on the Image:Q94 money magnets.jpg.

Therefore I went back to the editing page to see if I could add the appropriate copyright to the image. However I have only been able to add text and there is no selection of tags unlike when I first added in the picture. It seems after you upload an image you are limited to how you can edit after.

Please advise how I can correct this problem

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidious 66 (talkcontribs)

I have corrected the template that you tried to insert. Please check now -- Lost(talk) 13:26, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For future reference, you can incsert a licensing tag after you uploaded an image by editing the image page and inserting a tag like {{GFDL}}, {{PD-self}} etc. into the descrition text. For a full list of all these copyright/licensing tags and an explanation of what they mean, see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. -- Ferkelparade π 13:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bogle and Chandler murders early morning 1.1.1963[edit]

I was in the lovers lane next to the Lane Cove River on the same morning as this murder just on the north side of the bridge adjoining Millwood Ave and Fullers Road. I had used the south side, where the bodies were found many times with my girlfriend before. I always took a blanket as there was virtually no vehicle access on this side of the bridge. The theory put forward on TV tonight on the ABC was incorrect and I never noticed a hydrogen sulphide smell.There was always a strong smell of mangroves and salt water, but that water was not polluted as I had seen sharks in that part of the river and once saw a dog get taken by a shark. There was no police tape around the scene where the bodies were found and the next night from memory I along with some friends took some wreaths from The local Northern Subhurbs Crematorian and placed them at the crime scene. At lunchtime the following day, The Mirror carried the headlines ' mystery wreaths found at site......has the morbid killer returned ' The Sun had no mention of this finding. So many police and the press and siteseers had trampled the area that any evidence would have been obliterated (email removed)

Did you mean to ask a question? This is the wikipedia help desk where we answer questions related to wikipedia. -- Lost(talk) 13:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think this is meant to refer to the Bogle-Chandler case, in particular the theory put forward by a recent TV show that the people in question were killed by hydrogen sulphide gas. However, this is not the place to voice objections to that theory for a few reaons - first, because we are not the network that screened the documentary, the production company that made it, or the police investigating the case. Second, this anonymous testimony is original research, which doesn't belong in our articles, and thirdly because this is the Help Desk, where you ask questions about how to use Wikipedia. I'd suggest that if you want to give your evidence to someone, either see if the police are interested or otherwise try getting in touch with the production company. Confusing Manifestation 00:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Change with redirection[edit]

I'm relatively new here, so if I've missed something, please bear with me.

Yesterday, I followed a link from the William Norris pages to service bureaus. I was redirected from there to Payroll Service Bureaus. I was surprised because the redirection misses the fact that there are multiple types of service bureaus out there. In this case, it was even more surprising because one of William Norris' big things was the acquisition of the Service Bureau Company in the mid 70's from IBM (I worked there shortly after the acquisition) and at the time, the bigger part of the company was timesharing. They even had an ad campaign (which didn't impress most people within the company that I knew) with the tag line,"We gave our name to the entire industry." Other classic types of activity at service bureaus include AP, GL, and various other accounting functions. During the time I was there, ADP was the biggest competitor. There is no discussion on the page and the history seems to be just for the payroll service bureau, which leave me wondering where to go for whoever did the redirection to begin with.

So, I know how to edit, etc., but how would I figure out who put in a redirection from service bureaus to payroll service bureau so I could ask what their intent was? I could probably come up with some basic information, but probably wouldn't be the best for the overall article. I'd be most interested in the "why" before consideration of writing anything.

The creation and redirection was done on 27th June by User:Reswobslc. See this -- Lost(talk) 14:13, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, i am wanting to suggest that a change be made to a page, how do i communicate that? and/or how do i make a hyperlink? (hope that makes sense) cheers, —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Hi there. The best thing to do is to go to the talk page of the relevant article (you can get there by clicking on the second tab from the left at the top of the page) and discussing your recommended changes there. Links to internal articles can be created by enclosing the word or phrase within square brackets - [[ and ]]. External links can be created by enclosing them within single square brackets; one bracket on either end of the URL creates a reference like this[2]; including a word or phrase within the brackets links those words. Hope that helps! Tony Fox (arf!) 15:58, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

can't login[edit]

dialog box rejects my username which i thought was my email: <email removed>

I am attempting to add the name DHARMACIST to the Wikipedia Dictionary

Am I going about this the proper way?

Edward Namerdy aka Dharmacist

Well, firstly wikipedia is not a dictionary. Its an encyclopedia. There is another project for the dictionary entries. That is wiktionary. Secondly the page you are creating it in is called userspace. It belongs to the User:Dharmacist. Since you have not signed the page, I dont know whether that user is you or not. Please take the entry to the wiktionary project -- Lost(talk) 16:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • You probably gave your email when you signed up, but that is so we can send your password if you forget it. Unless you put your email address in the user field, it is not your username. - Mgm|(talk) 17:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

how to link to a section within a page[edit]

if i want ot link to another page, i use the funtion like highland pipes

however how do I Link

(i) to a sub section within an article. For esample: with the page bagpipes their is a sub section ==modern usage== and within modern usage therir is a subsection titled ===transpostion===. HOW DO I LINK DIRECTLY TO ===transposition]]

(ii) where can i find the rules for linking.

joe 15:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is how you do it: Wikipedia:Help desk#how to link to a section within a page. Clicking on this link will get us to this section -- Lost(talk) 16:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Renaming articles[edit]

I have just submitted an article entitled 'XCM (Xtreme Card Manipulation)'. However, I have decided now that I would prefer it if the title was simply 'XCM'. Is there any possible way I could change it?


You would need to move the article -- Lost(talk) 16:18, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to add?[edit]

How do I add things like "the neutrality of this article is disputed" to the top of an article? If I could get a list of codes that would be great...

Seckelberry1 15:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adding {{POV}} will do it. See Category:Neutrality templates for others. Deli nk 15:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And you can check out WP:Templates for a bunch more useful templates if you need them. Tony Fox (arf!) 15:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But don't forget that you have to add your reasons to the talk page, or people have every reason to just take the tag right off again. Notinasnaid 17:09, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleted edits[edit]

I know that only administrators can view the contents of deleted articles, but is there any way for a non-admin to see how many edits users have made to deleted articles, or if a user has created many deleted articles, etc. It seems to me that things like repeated page creation vandalism can go unnoticed otherwise. Deli nk 15:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please see just a few sections above this one. This one to be precise. It answers the part 1 of your question. Regarding the second part, if you have a deleted article on your watchlist, it will show up whenever someone recreates it -- Lost(talk) 16:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Accidentally Removing Information[edit]

what do we do if we have accidently deleted/changed the existing entry by accident? I was trying to remove an unnecessary comment someone left and I ended up changing the wrong section, destroying the previous information.

Simply revert the page. Edit an older version of the page (the one before your edit) on the History, and save that, and it'll revert the page to how it was before your edits. — Dark Shikari talk/contribs 16:22, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello! I wanted to announce myself under the name Luxo, because I have this name also in ohter wikis. This name is alredy occupied [3]. But the user haven't made a edit or something [4]. Can I have this name? Thank you -- 16:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Changing username#Requests to usurp an existing account with no edits -- Lost(talk) 16:37, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Signpost[edit]

The Wikipedia Signpost article on the Italian Wiki needs copyediting. How can that be done? Anchoress 16:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You could try asking at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost. Since they share the interest, they can help you out -- Lost(talk) 17:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the info. Anchoress 17:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You could also add a {{copyedit}} tag to the article, which will list it at Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit and allow editors who specialize in copy-editing to tackle it. Although, asking people who have a specific interest might be better, but if you can't get enough support, this is another method. Best of luck! —Keakealani talkcontribs 18:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

bringing back a speedy deletion[edit]

My initial entry for Robert D. Arnott was speedily deleted. I responded to the admin who had deleted it in his talk page. He has agreed to support bringing back the article on my talk page. However, I have tried to 'Email this user' to ask him how to bring it back along with a few other questions, but I have not heard back from him. Could someone please assist me in bringing back the Robert D. Arnott entry and help me ensure that I have the proper format, etc to avoid speedy deletion in the future? I can check my talk page for replies. Thanks for your time. 17:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia:Deletion review ought to be a good start. —Keakealani talkcontribs 18:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image Thumbs[edit]

Hi - I'm a relatively experienced Wikipedian, but I'm having trouble with one image which I'm trying to add to a page. I've successfully uploaded it, but the string of code I've been using (which works with all the other images I've uploaded for that page), does not work as I intende. The exact string is:

[[image:Blundell Park Pontoon Stand.jpg|right|thumb|250px|The Pontoon Stand]]

Instead of the Image thumbnail appearing in the text, only the "alt" ("The Pontoon Stand) part appears, as a hyperlink to the image file. Perhaps the image is too large? Or is in JPG format? I can't think why on earth it won't work - I've been making HTML webpages since 1998 and never had a problem of a thumbnail not loading, and this string of code has worked before (in fact, I've lifted straight from other pages)

Regards - Superbfc 19:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Try taking this to WP:VPT as you have struck me clueless. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 21:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
: Solved! I've re-uploaded the file - it must have corrupted somehow. Thanks anyway - Superbfc 23:09, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleting an Image[edit]

How do I delete an image I've uploaded to Wikipedia? Thanks, Paul

Images can only be deleted by administrators. If you want an image uploaded by you to be deleted just add {{db-author}} to the image's page. An admin will soon come by and delete it. --Srikeit (Talk | Email) 19:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can't edit a page[edit]

Whenever I click the 'Save page' button when I'm editting Wikipedia:Dead external links/301, my computer crashes. 0plusminus0 20:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please take this technical question to the technical village pump they will have the resources there to better respond to your question. Thanks! —— Eagle (ask me for help) 21:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Company or Personal Project?[edit]

Can I start a Wiki project for either company or personal use only updatable by a select few?

It depends on what you mean. If you mean here on Wikipedia or another site hosted by the Wikipedia Foundation, no you can't. But if you mean your own private wiki site running the MediaWiki software, sure, go ahead. The MediaWiki software is freely downloadable, and can be used for any purposes, as long as they don't directly break the law. JIP | Talk 20:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Naming conventions (Finnish)[edit]

Could people take a look at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Finnish)? All that seems to have happened so far is me arguing with User:Masterhatch and User:Gene Nygaard, and it seems both parties feel they're talking to a brick wall. We need lots of more opinions, both from Nordic and non-Nordic users. JIP | Talk 20:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why don't you guys request a mediator with the mediation cabal. They will be able to assist much more then we can here on this page! —— Eagle (ask me for help) 21:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Changing the skin[edit]

Dear Wikipedia,

I cant figure out how to change my skin because I don't like it. I have went into the My Preferences but it won't let me click on Skin, I don't know what's wrong. Please respond soon, thank you. Nemato 21:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please re-ask your question at the technical village pump thanks! —— Eagle (ask me for help) 21:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Language Q[edit]

how do i put it in spanish? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

In order to change the language of the interface on any Wikipedia, you have to register. Once you have, a language selection thingie can be found in your preferences. If you prefer Spanish, you might want to try the Spanish Wikipedia instead of the English one (which you're currently on). -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

how to contact you?[edit]

Hi Wikipedia,

I don't want to edit an article, so much as note a small point. I was, however, unsure about who to address this to, so I guess I'll use this to relay my point. Under the article Women's Body Shapes you have a section entitled 'Feminism and Body Shape' and there you identify Ms. A. Jolie as a curvy woman. I agree that this is generally accepted in pop culture, but would like to note that according to the specifications of your article, Ms. Jolie's body shape is in fact not traditionally curvy. The top of her body is a lot larger than her narrow 32 inch hips and aside from an ample chest her frame is quite gangly and thin. I think that she is taken to be curvy simply because she has an ample chest, which both reflects the modern western perception of what counts as 'desirably full' and how that differs from the very standards we have said to measure such things. Okie dokie that's all I have to say. You should check out Ms. Jolie's measurements, I'm right about this.

-A.B.—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Comments such as this should be posted on the talk page of the relevant article (in this case, Talk:Female body shape. I've taken the liberty of moving this question there for you. I don't personally know enough about the issue to contribute, but bringing issues like this up on the talk page generally attracts the attention of editors who do. If you are able to establish a general consensus on the talk page, feel free to revise the section accordingly. -Elmer Clark 04:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


how can i make a gift for wikipedia via credit card when my country is not listed in your credit card's country form?

Rudy Abdulgani Indonesia

There are various methods of donation given here. If none works for you, please go here. They will be able to better address your query. -- Lost(talk) 02:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image copyright protocol[edit]


I uploaded an image, have I included all the needed information to meet image release requirements? The image is here:

The image is mine, ie. I captured it and uploaded it.

Regards, E. Wayne

Yes you have used the right tag -- Lost(talk) 02:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category WikiProject[edit]

Are there any WikiProjects or Userboxes related to creating new categories? -- TheGreatLlama (speak to the Llama!) 00:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you would like to create a new category, see here for help. -- Lost(talk) 02:56, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Problem with an infobox[edit]

Hi, I created Template:Infobox_college_athletics (based on an infobox at USC Athletics). It works fine, except for one field, the "hex1" field. As far as I can tell, it's identical to the "hex2" field (except for location), but the value for the field will not substitute in. See User:Elmer Clark/infoboxtest for an example of it not working (the first box under "color" should be purple) and User:Elmer Clark/infoboxtestsubst for an example where I used subst: on it. Instead of correctly inserting 3A3D71 in the hex1 field, it just leaves it as {{{hex1}}}, which obviously doesn't work. I assume it's just a stupid problem with the template, but I cannot seem to figure it out. Can anyone see why this isn't working? Thanks, Elmer Clark 00:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There was a problem with the previous line in your test. I've fixed it. Looks OK to me now. -- Rick Block (talk) 05:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! Looks like I was looking in the wrong place entirely, can't believe I missed that :) -Elmer Clark 05:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

template question[edit]

I am fairly new but i am assuming that article stubs tags are templates? Is that a fair assumption? If so, I think that many of the articles may be lacking in textual content (generally articles labeled as stubs) but it also seems that many of these articles are lacking in pictoral content. It may be a great well written 5 page article with no pictures. It is said that a pictures is worth a thousand words and it seems to me that there are some articles where the lack of pictures is as much of a detriment as a lack of textual content. I guess what my question is, how do you propose a new template? I think it would be great that articles that may be well written but lacking appropiate pictures and or diagrams should have a way of being tagged (similar to an stub article). If there is already a way to do this, Please let me know. I think my doing this you could encourage people to take there cameras and go out and take pictures, or create there own pictures. If there is a way to propose this as a template or something like that, I have thought a little more in depth into it. This is just a brief overview. Any body got the answers? --Chris Kreider - HFF 01:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is already a template for this. Please use {{Reqphoto}} on the talk page of the article -- Lost(talk) 03:01, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but 999 out of 1000 pictures are copyright. I think encouraging people to load more pictures may be counterproductive. If carefully worded, however, it may help. Notinasnaid 08:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Using Proof to change something[edit]

In the Land of Fire topic of Naruto, i'm trying to change the name of the Third Hokage because i know and have proof of the name. but it says that i cannot change his name without proof, how would i show proof to change it?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Renagade86 (talkcontribs)

If the proof is online, just give a link to it. If it is a book, mention the book's name along with the ISBN no. Also mention the pages where the info is given -- Lost(talk) 02:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Trends in agriculture/indutry worldover[edit]

To facilitate timely action on shortages of commodities and industrial goods in each country and for bridging the gaps in demand supply of agri and industrial goods, it is necessary to visualise a system of forewarning : To wit,share market focusses attention of share movements - advises investors

Similary there is need for a consolidated focus on movement of agri/industrial goods in each country - shortterm and longterm trends based on actuals and not on projections

There is no specific service to users on the trends in agriculture/indusrtry like share market information.

Suggestion is : 1 World agriculture - specific by country- changes in production shortterm and longterm and projections of surplus /shortages in shorterm and longterms 2 World industry - specific by country- changes/downturns in production and projections of surplus and shortages This will help accurately to correct imbalances in world trade.It is now left to traders to exploit this lack of information Is wikipedia geared up for this.

vksampath —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vksampath (talkcontribs)

I am not sure what you want to convey. This help desk answers questions about how to use Wikipedia. If you want to create some categories by world industry etc, please let us know. We can guide you on how to go about it. If you are advising on what industry etc. should do, I advise you read what Wikipedia is not. -- Lost(talk) 06:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Some one has put inappropriate phrases into article[edit]

Thanks for pointing this out - I have now warned this user, reverted his/her changes, and asked for him/her to be banned. Martinp23 09:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Have created a page about 'The Design Association', but am not sure it is saved as it does not appear when you tupe in box and hit search. Any ideas what I am doing wrong?thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onesirosan minerva (talkcontribs)

Username template[edit]

Is there a template to leave on people's talk pages for having email addresses for usernames, such as Luigi30 (Taλk) 12:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ah. It's not listed in the big warning grid. Thanks. Luigi30 (Taλk) 13:10, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

removing stub status[edit]

How do I remove stub status for an article I substantially expanded and for which I sought consensus? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivienfinder (talkcontribs)

I have removed it for you from Something the Lord Made. This is how I did it. -- Lost(talk) 13:58, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of Cities by State in the US[edit]

How can I obtain a list like this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cunneen (talkcontribs)

There are numerous such lists, see Category:Lists of cities in the United States. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Can someone delete this junk?

The vandalised redirect has been restored. Thanks for watching out -- Lost(talk) 15:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How long before a new article is approved/added ?[edit]

I just submitted a new article (11:30 AM EDT on Fri Sept 8). How long does it normally take for the article to be "live" on the site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

A new article gets published immediately. But to submit a new article, you must have a username and must be logged in. What was the article that you submitted? It may have been deleted if it did not conform to Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines -- Lost(talk) 15:42, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I do have a user name and password and wrote an article about the Arts Recognition and Talent Search program. I am the parent organization's VP and there are no copywright issues here.

What should I use for the "Destination filename" if it's a brand-new article?

I am not yet trying to add images, I just want to get the article up first and will then add a single image to which my organization owns the rights.

I'm not sure what I am doing wrong. I have listed

Christopher Schram

  • What is your username? You do not use the upload file feature that says "Destination filename" to upload text. That feature is for images, videos and sounds. Try the Wikipedia:Tutorial. I'm sure there's no copywright issue, because there's no such thing as copywright. It's called copyright. To ensure text doesn't get deleted you need to send an email to permissions at wikimedia dot org so we know you are who you say you are (we get a lot of fakes). If you're talking about copyright issues, you may be planning to copy existing text. I don't recommend that. It's not usually written in an encyclopedic fashion. Try looking at our featured articles to get a feel for the tone and format articles should have and write the entry with your own words. Good luck. - 18:33, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Answered below -- Lost(talk) 18:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

lock icons[edit]

All of the links in Wikipedia have a yellow lock icon next to them. I have not seen that before. What does that mean? TakingUpSpace 15:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Can you give an example? Are you using FireFox by any chance? There's a FireFox extension that tags links with icons to show what they link to. - 18:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Do you mean like this? It means the website linked to uses the HTTPS encryption protocol.

New article title[edit]

I'm creating a new article and I'm not sure how to place the title on the page. I could not find a link to it earlier, so I couldn't do it that way. All previous links to this title refer to the novel and not this film version. Help!

What do you want the create the article about? If you want this one deleted, just place {{db-author}} on top of the page -- Lost(talk) 16:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New article questions (cont'd)[edit]

Refer to several posts above.

I do have a user name and password and wrote an article about the Arts Recognition and Talent Search program. I am the parent organization's VP and there are no copywright issues here.

1) What should I use for the "Destination filename" if it's a brand-new article?

I am not yet trying to add images, I just want to get the article up first and will then add a single image to which my organization owns the rights.

2) I have listed {{public domain}} to deal with copywright issues; there is no public URL to link to for this article since I created it; and I have just been typing "author: self, Christopher Schram" in the summary area along with the {{public domain}} designation.

I'm not sure what I am doing wrong.

Thanks in advance for the advice/assistance ChrisSchram 17:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Christopher SchramReply[reply]

Can you please give a link to your website. Normally you could simply type the article's intended name in the searchbox and the red link will show up. Click on that and start editing away. However, please go through our notability guidelines for companies. Secondly, it is generally not considered in good taste here if you create an article about yourself or your company. The philosophy is that if it is notable, someone else will add it anyway. So you must establish notability when questioned. Also please keep in mind our policy on neutral point of view. All the best. -- Lost(talk) 17:37, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We are the National Foundation for Advancement in the Arts. Our website is (you can also get there thru We are a 25 year old national non-profit. We are mentioned in several articles and I felt I might as well create a basic "All About Us" article that people can link to. I've written it as basic information with no POV. The Presidential Scholars Program article, the Interlochen Arts Acadeny article, the High School for the Performing and Visual Arts article all mention us in some way.

Very well. If you have gone through the links that I gave above, then please click on National Foundation for the Advancement of Arts, and simply begin typing. You will be asked to establish the notability of the foundation, so please do go through the notability link that I have given above -- Lost(talk) 17:55, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you. I have added (and then edited for unnecessary apostrophes) my article and have reviewed the links - for notability we have been the subject of a PBS documentary that aired in the fall of 2004 and a second documentary that has just been screen in Los Angeles for a week for Academy Award consideration. The New York Times ran an article about us on Wednesday, April 26, 2006.

When I do a wikipedia search on our name - we don't come up - even when I type in the heading you created - National Foundation for the Advancement of Arts (which is incorrect) - I still can't find it.

How do I re-name the page to say National Foundation for Advancement in the Arts - and what will make it show up on searches for the name or other words that are in the article.

Also, when you search on our acronym NFAA you get the article about a band called No Fun At All. How do I deal with disambiguation issues?

Sorry to be such a dud about this, all the help is most appreciated.

ChrisSchram Christopher Schram

See Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#An article doesn't show up in the search. As for your second question, the article needs to be moved. I will do it for you as a new account cannot move the article. Please place links to the newspaper article etc on the article page. And please go through some other replies to your original post (few posts above this one). See WP:DISAMBIG for disambiguation guidelines -- Lost(talk) 18:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Automatically insert signatures whenever a page is edited[edit]

Is it possible (with mediawiki) to create a page such that whenever it is edited, the editor's signature is automatically inserted in a pre-specified location?--Will2k 18:43, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Not yet. At least not that I know of. It would be an incredible pain in the behind for someone who corrects spelling or wants to delete some text. - Mgm|(talk) 20:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

harvested e-mails[edit]

how do I get a list of harvested e-mails72.0.187.155 19:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you're talking about harveste email addresses. You don't. Using someone's email address in such a list without their consent is immoral (if I remember correctly illegal) and if it's not, using them to spam people with something is. - Mgm|(talk) 20:26, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree, totally immoral, as well as illegal in the United States. A better place to ask this would have been the Reference desk for computers. — [Mac Davis] (talk) (Desk|Help me improve)

Moving information in an existing article[edit]


I was able to edit/add my information about my company, but it is running as a continuation of information that was already on the page. I would like to know how to change the order of the information on the page/article. Speaking for the company, we would like to publish our information first, then, have any other information (good, bad or indifferent) follow. Is this possible? Please let me know. Thanks, KathyKathjim 19:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Go to the top of the page, look for the edit button. In edit mode, create sections and then put relevant info within sections. Adding these signs next to the header will do the trick: ==Section Header==. -- Lost(talk) 19:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Remember that even though the article is about your company, you do not own it. How the page is formatted should be based on it's encyclopedic value. Remember that anything you add should follow our basic policies as listed in the final pages of Wikipedia:Tutorial. You may find the earlier pages useful too. - Mgm|(talk) 20:28, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

External links in page content[edit]

what is the rule on external links. If I include one in the page content can I also put one in the external links category on the bottom? Or is it one or the other?


If you are using it as a reference for a sentence in the article, use it next to the sentence. If there is additional useful information in the external link, use it in the external links section at the bottom. However, please make sure that you are not spamming or advertising for your site. That is not allowed on Wikipedia -- Lost(talk) 19:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • The rules are on WP:EL. Generally speaking, you don't put external links in the text. - Mgm|(talk) 20:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
See WP:CITE on how to properly cite other websites -- Lost(talk) 06:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adding Links[edit]


I am associated with a site called "The Movieland Directory". My brother, E.J. Fleming, is the author/compiler of this database of addresses in the Los Angeles area. We have taken this database and put it online. It's a very well researched and huge database (over 20,000 names dating back to the dawn of the movie industry). We are pretty sure it's the largest of it's kind. We've made it accessible for free, and hope to continue to add commentary and reference links associated with each person and address, including links to Wikipedia. (We're not looking to plagiarize or be the primary authors of content outside of our own little addresses niche).

We are pretty new. Online since late May of this year.

I went into Wikipedia recently and added links to the addresses for a few folks who are currently in the news. George Reeves and Eddie Mannix, who are in the movie Hollywoodland. I think we added them to a few other folks, also. Total of a handful or two.

Those links were removed. Can you tell me why? Did I violate some rule? I think our resource is as well or better researched as most any link or commentary you'd have in Wikipedia. E.J. is an acknowledged expert in Movieland history, with his fifth book on the subject - a biography, the first ever, of Wally Reid ( - to be published this Fall (

I'm going to go ahead and re-insert those links until someone tells me otherwise.

Thanks for your help.


Tony Fleming

It's certainly an interesting website. I suspect that it was felt that a website listing addresses that a particlar person lived at didn't really add that much to that article. I think if you were to add links to articles on the areas such as Hollywood, Los Angeles, California and other suburbs, streets and so on (I'm not sure what articles we have) especially if you can make the link specific to that suburb/street/whatever would be welcomed. --Cherry blossom tree 23:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Where to report an error in a template?[edit]

What is the right page on which to report an error in a template? The "unsigned" template currently displays as "subst:unsignged" which I assume is a typo. Thanks, Newyorkbrad 01:21, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Newyorkbrad (talkcontribs) .
Works fine here. Are you sure you spelled it right? Dismas|(talk) 01:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for quick reply. Perhaps we are not dealing with the regular "unsigned" template but a variation. I placed a <blatantvandal> warning on a userpage, but decided not to sign in an unsuccessful attempt avoid retaliation. As it appeared on the userpage, the warning template was followed by an "unsigned" message including the misspelling I quote. (I would give the diff here, but the userpage has been deleted so it's not accessible any more.) Maybe the "unsigned" template on the vandalism warnings is different from the plain unsigned template and that's where the misspelling is? Newyorkbrad 02:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think what happened was that the person who placed the unsigned template misspelled it, rather than the template itself being misspelled. At least, I think... —Keakealani talkcontribs 06:05, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Browser Viewing[edit]

What font or encoding should I use in order to view foreign characters such as Japanese characters in Wikipedia? I'm using the latest Firefox browser. 03:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Try setting it on Unicode (UTF-8). That's what seems to work for me (and makes the most sense in terms of making a large number of languages compatible). Confusing Manifestation 14:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

need for reference citation[edit]

I've been working on a wikipedia entry called "Gullah language."

When adding a new section to the entry tonight, I used a quote for which I did not provide a citation.

A large banner appeared right inside the entry saying that I needed a citation, and since I don't have a published reference for the quote, I erased it.

But the banner still remains in the middle of the entry.

How do I get rid of it?

Sorie 06:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Somewhere, there should be something that looks like {{citationeeded}} (although it could be another template, the double brackets should be the same....just remove that template at the banner should go away. Let me know if you need further help! —Keakealani talkcontribs 06:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually the entire article has no references. Please see the policy of verifiability. Uncited/ unreferenced material is liable to be removed from wikipedia -- Lost(talk) 06:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A search that doesn't turn up a page[edit]

Why doesn't a search for "Sorceror Hunters" give you a link for:

Anyone know, am I doing something wrong?

Well, you are using the wrong spelling. Otherwise the search result comes up fine. [5] -- Lost(talk) 08:22, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Signature tutorial[edit]

Is there a signature tutorial or templates? Adamkik <sup>Talk 09:05, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please respond on my talk page. Thanks!

Replied -- Lost(talk) 09:50, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

i have a wiki accountbut can't login[edit]

I play the game Wurm Online and they currently have the Wurmpedia on Wiki i want to edit a page but when i go to login and type my username and password it does not log me in —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wcplaya (talkcontribs)

You are already logged in as User:Wcplaya. However Wurmpedia sounds like another site. This is Wikipedia -- Lost(talk) 13:13, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • The username you logged in with only works on Wikipedia. The site your talked about runs on wiki software, but is totally unrelated to this site. - Mgm|(talk) 13:26, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Looking for Guideline[edit]

I apologize for bothering the Help Desk with something so basic, but I have been having some trouble finding some policy pages, and I really don't know where to look for them. (By policy pages, I mean pages like WP:NPOV.)

In the past, I have had some problems locating policy pages I have seen before, but always managed to eventually find them by looking for related topics in HELP and then going from link to link until I got somewhere. However, this system isn't working with the page I'm searching for, today (the Trivia policy page).

I am sure that I am missing something stupendously obvious (such as an alphabetized list that links to all the policy pages), but I have come to the conclusion that I really am stuck for ideas on where to look, so I come to you for help. Thanks! Mip | Talk 14:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Here is a category with all guidelines and policies. Category:Wikipedia policies and guidelines. The one you're looking for is I think Wikipedia:Trivia, a proposed guideline. Garion96 (talk) 14:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You may also be interested in Wikipedia:List of policies and Wikipedia:List of guidelines. Also, typing in the search box "Wikipedia:" and a word from the sought policy will often work. It would have worked, for example, for Wikipedia:Trivia. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 15:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you both for your help. The category linked to by Garion96 will definitely come in handy now and in the future.
The search format explained by Meni Rosenfeld will also be very useful; in the past, I had left out the colon and searched for, eg, "Wikipedia Trivia". Just comes to show that a little punctuation mark goes a long way! :D Mip | Talk 16:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Why isn't my information of the definition of DHARMACIST being picked up by search engines? Instead, the search engines pick up my question rather than the page that I created.

It seems rather ironic if you ask me.

The search engine doesn't search pages in the "User" namespace by default. You can have it do so by clicking on the "User" checkbox in the search results page. Also, new pages take a while to be indexed in the search database. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 16:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


The subject is NUTRITION

What is a good NUTRITIOUS Breakfast


How can we be assured that we are getting the proper NUTRITION from our food ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 12:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

This is the help desk, which is the place to ask questions about Wikipedia. Have you considered asking your question at the Reference Desk? They take questions of a more general nature there. Also, try looking at the article on nutrition first to see if that's any help. Confusing Manifestation 01:53, 5 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you die from it, you can infer that it probably wasn't nutritious. ~ Porphyric Hemophiliac § 02:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hello. I want to edit the page on William Shakespeare but seem unable, through no lack of alcohol or drugs or even simple will, to do so. Is it because i is black? Or English? Or actually have a proper grasp of it? Apart from the fact that Shakespeare wrote 'histories' (which he didn't, he just based certain plays such as Richard II, III, Henry V etc upon various historical 'texts' that were actually more like works of fiction i.e stories), he also didn't, possibly, have the 'reputation' of writing the 'greatest' 'English' plays in history, whatever that means. PLEASE get someone to write an entry that actually uses not only corerct English grammar but also 'historical' fact. By the way, we know he died in 1616, but also that he left London and did not produce anything after 1611. But then, what would I know? I wasted time and now doth Wikipeia waste me.

In Australia and New Zealand, a "ute" is a very commonly used term which describes a medium sized pickup truck - either a single (or in recent times) twincab design.

The term is an abbreviation of 'utility truck', which in itself is an abbreviation of the original term 'coupe utility truck' whose origins date back to the 1920's when the Ford Motor Company in Australia responded to the needs of a group of farmers and produced a vehicle which had a 'coupe' (two seater) cab which was common to a currently produced sedan automobile, and a utility rear to carry livestock or farm produce. The utility truck or 'ute' was born and is now the term most commonly used in Australia to describe what is called a pickup truck in other parts of the world.

hyperlinks in red[edit]

Hi there,

Often when browsing wikipedia, I come across hyperlinks that are red (instead of the usual blue), when I click on one of these I get sent to a page telling me that that article does not exist. The first time I ever came across one of these I reported it and the link was removed. However since using wikipedia more frequently I have found that these red hyperlinks are extremely abundant and that reporting it every single time may be a huge task. I am tempted to report all of them, but then I thought that they might be there for a reason. As a user I find it frustrating to find a link to something that does not exist. So my question is are all of these red links necessary? If so, why?

Markoff Chaney 06:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Markoff ChaneyReply[reply]

Yes, red links means that the articles do not yet exist. There's no need to report them to anybody. Feel free to create these articles if you have the interest and knowledge. See Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Infact even your name appears as a red link. That simply means that you have not created your user page yet and can do so whenever you feel like -- Lost(talk) 06:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's often best to leave them be. When you or someone else creates the article that red link will automatically turn blue. Dismas|(talk) 06:35, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or if you don't feel like creating the article, just bear in mind that a red link is always a nonexistent article and get in the habit of only clicking on the blue links instead. Notinasnaid 07:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • That's exactly the reason they're color coded. If you see the link is red, you know the related article isn't there yet. You don't need to report them. The great thing about them is that they encourage people to create the article and if they do, all red links pointing to the article will automatically turn blue. - 07:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]


When I sign out do I write my name and then Gwenn Herman 13:10, 6 September 2006 (UTC)? Thanks! Gwenn HermanGwenn Herman 13:10, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, only sign with four tildes, your name/ signature and a time stamp will be printed automatically -- Lost(talk) 13:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply