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See How to use this page for the official rules of this page, guidelines for Speedy Deletion and Speedy Renaming, and how to do cleanup.

Deletion of a category may mean that the articles and images in it are directly put in its parent category, or that another subdivision of the parent category is made. If they are already members of more suitable categories, it may also mean that they become a member of one category less.

How to use CfD

Nomination procedure

Twinkle

You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.

Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.

MassCFD

You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations.

Manual nominations

I	Preliminary steps. Before nominating a category: Read and understand the guidance for category names and overcategorization. For categories containing biographical articles, read the guidance for categorization of people. For categories containing the user pages of Wikipedians, read the guidance for user categories. In the following special cases: If a category is a red link, then it is already deleted (or was never created in the first place) and does not need to be nominated. If a category is unpopulated, use {{db-catempty}} to request it be speedily deleted in 7 days. If a category is populated solely by a template (other than a stub template, see #Stub types below) and you are proposing to delete both the category and template, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion. For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style.
II	Edit the category. Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here. Otherwise, if nominating a single category: For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd}} For merging, use {{subst:Cfm|Other category}} For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm-double|Other category 1|Other category 2}} For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr|Proposed name}} For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs|Proposed name 1|Proposed name 2}} For converting the category into a list, use {{subst:Cfl|Proposed name}} For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd|type=nature of proposed discussion}} (see Template:Cfd/doc#Optional parameter) If nominating a group of related categories, use a bundled nomination: For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd|CfD section name}} For merging, use {{subst:Cfm|Other category|CfD section name}} For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm-double|Other category 1|Other category 2|CfD section name}} For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr|Proposed name|CfD section name}} For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs|Proposed name 1|Proposed name 2|CfD section name}} For converting the category into a list, {{subst:Cfl|Proposed name|CfD section name}} For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd|type=nature of proposed discussion|CfD section name}} (see Template:Cfd/doc#Optional parameter) Include "CfD", "CfM", "CfR", "CfS" or "CfL" in the edit summary, and do not mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving. To add the template for previous nomination days, use the "full" version of the template by appending "full" to the template name, i.e. {{cfd full}}, {{cfm full}}, {{cfr full}}, {{cfs full}} and {{cfl full}}. Use the |day=, |month= and |year= parameters to make the banner link to the correct CfD page. Consider adding {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 November 3|CfD section name}} ~~~~ to the talk page of the category's creator. For details about these templates, see each template's documentation.
III	Create the CFD section. Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the text= parameter, omit the Category: prefix and do not use wikilinks, as the template takes care of this. If nominating a single category: For deleting, use {{subst:Cfd2|Obsolete category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}} For merging, use {{subst:Cfm2|Origin category|Destination category|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~}} For merging to two categories, use {{subst:Cfm2|Origin category|Destination category 1|target2=Destination category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed merge. ~~~~}} For renaming, use {{subst:Cfr2|Current category|Proposed name|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed rename. ~~~~}} For splitting, use {{subst:Cfs2|Current category|Proposed category 1|Proposed category 2|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed split. ~~~~}} For converting the category into a list, use {{subst:Cfc2|Current category|Proposed article|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}} For other options (containerization, etc.), use {{subst:Cfd2|Current category|type=other type|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed conversion. ~~~~}} For a bundled nomination, use one of the standard templates to build the "Cfd section name" for the first nominated category. After saving that, the second and subsequent nominations must be inserted manually, as follows: ==== Cfd section name ==== * 1st category * 2nd category [Make clear whether you propose deletion, merging or renaming] * Your reason for nominating the categories, and signature. If a bundled nomination is too long, consider using {{hidden}} to hide some of the nominated categories. In your reason, use links if mentioning articles or categories. To link to a category, use the colon trick by adding a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, e.g. [[:Category:Foo]]. Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Stub types

I	Preliminary steps. In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming: Read and understand guidance for creating stub types and stub type naming conventions. Review the list of existing stub types—be advised, this list may not be comprehensive. If you wish to: Create a new stub type—follow the procedure for proposing new stub types. Delete, merge or rename a stub category only, without deleting or renaming the associated stub template—follow the instructions above this section. Delete or rename a stub template—continue to section II.
II	Edit the template. Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed. For deletion, use {{subst:Sfd-t|Section name}} For renaming, use {{subst:Sfr-t|Proposed name|Section name}} Please include "SFD" or "SFR" in the edit summary, and don't mark the edit as minor. Preview before saving. Consider notifying the template's creator on their talk page. To find the contributor, check the page history of the stub template.
III	Create the CFD section. Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters): For deletion, use {{subst:sfd-t2|TemplateName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}} For renaming, use {{subst:sfr-t2|TemplateOldName|TemplateNewName|text=Your reason(s) for the proposed deletion. ~~~~}} In your rationale, mention how many articles currently use the template to help other editors. When linking to a category in your rationale, always add a colon (:) to the beginning of the link, like [[:Category:Foo]]. This makes a category link that can be seen on the page, and avoids putting this page into the category you are nominating. Preview before saving to check that your nomination is formatted correctly, and remember to include your signature at the end of the nomination.

Notifying interested projects and editors

In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.

Notifying related WikiProjects

WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 November 3|CfD section name}} ~~~~ or write a personalized message.

Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.

Notifying substantial contributors to the category

While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}} to inform the category's creator and all other editors.

Notifying other interested editors

It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.

Closing procedure

After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.

Redirecting categories

"WP:CAT-R" redirects here. For the guideline on categorizing redirects, see Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects.

For an essay on this topic, see WP:Category redirects that should be kept.

In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}} to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.

In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.

A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.

Redirecting categories

It is our general policy to delete categories that do not have articles in them. Unlike articles, categories are mostly for internal use only. If they don't have any articles, they shouldn't have any links from any articles or any other categories, because they are not useful for navigation and classification.

However, some categories frequently have articles assigned to them accidentally, or are otherwise re-created over and over again. In these cases, we use a form of "soft" redirection.

Categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (#REDIRECT [[target]]) due to flaws in the MediaWiki software. Instead, just use Template:Categoryredirect. NekoDaemon (talk · contribs) will occasionally patrol these categories and move articles out of them and into the redirect targets automatically.

You can see a list of redirected categories in Category:Wikipedia category redirects.

Special notes

Some categories may be listed in Category:Categories for deletion but accidentally not be listed here.

See also meta-discussion going on at Wikipedia talk:Categories for deletion phrases regarding the content of the {{cfd}} template, and about advisory/non-advisory phrases to be used on this "Categories for deletion" page.

Anonymous users may nominate and comment on proceedings, just as in VfD. Votes from anonymous or new users may be discounted if they lack edit history. See Wikipedia:Suffrage and WP:SOCK for details.

Categories relating to stub articles should not be nominated here, but should be taken to Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion.

When nominating a category, it's helpful to add a notice on the talk page of the most-closely related article. Doing so would not only extend an additional courtesy, but possibly also bring in editors who know more about the subject at hand. You can use template:cfd-article for this.

Speedy renaming and merging

Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.

1. Determine which speedy criterion applies
2. Tag category page with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} or {{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
3. List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page

Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.

Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.

Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}} with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.

To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:

• Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~

You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.

Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.

If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.

Speedy criteria

The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:

C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes

• Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
• Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
• Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.

C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices

• Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
• Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).

C2C: Consistency with established category tree names

Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names

• This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
• This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
• This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).

C2D: Consistency with main article's name

• Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
• This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
  • unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
  • uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
• This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
• Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.

C2E: Author request

• This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
• The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.

C2F: One eponymous page

• This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{subst:cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.

Admin instructions

When handling the listings:

1. Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
2. With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
3. Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.

If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.

Applying speedy criteria in full discussions

• A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
  • The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
  • No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
• If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.

Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here

If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.

If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.

Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:

* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:

* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:

* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~

Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}

A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 11:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 197 open requests ().

Current requests

Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

• Category:Aubregrinia to Category:Chrysophylloideae – C2F: Aubregrinia is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League West Division standings templates to Category:West Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per West Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:31, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Smythe Division standings templates to Category:Smythe Division standings templates – C2B: per Smythe Division. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:31, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League East Division standings templates to Category:East Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per East Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:31, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Canadian Division standings templates to Category:Canadian Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per Canadian Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League American Division standings templates to Category:American Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per American Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Pacific Division standings templates to Category:Pacific Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per Pacific Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Northwest Division standings templates to Category:Northwest Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per Northwest Division (NHL)/Category:Northwest Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Central Division standings templates to Category:Central Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per Central Division (NHL)/Category:Central Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Western Conference standings templates to Category:Western Conference (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per Western Conference (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:25, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Norris Division standings templates to Category:Norris Division standings templates – C2B: per Norris Division. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Southeast Division standings templates to Category:Southeast Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per Southeast Division (NHL)/Category:Southeast Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Adams Division standings templates to Category:Adams Division standings templates – C2B: per Adams Division. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Northeast Division standings templates to Category:Northeast Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per Northeast Division (NHL)/Category:Northeast Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:21, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Metropolitan Division standings templates to Category:Metropolitan Division standings templates – C2B: per Metropolitan Division. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Patrick Division standings templates to Category:Patrick Division standings templates – C2B: per Patrick Division. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Atlantic Division standings templates to Category:Atlantic Division (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per Atlantic Division (NHL)/Category:Atlantic Division (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:19, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:National Hockey League Eastern Conference standings templates to Category:Eastern Conference (NHL) standings templates – C2B: per Eastern Conference (NHL). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 02:17, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Apporasa to Category:Arhopalini – C2F: Apporasa is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 01:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Agyrtria to Category:Trochilinae – C2F: Contains only Agyrtria. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Golden Age of medieval Bulgarian culture to Category:Golden Age of Bulgaria – C2D: per Golden Age of Bulgaria. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 22:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Algae biofuels to Category:Algae fuel – C2D: per Algae fuel. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 22:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Jurchens in Ming dynasty to Category:Jurchens in the Ming dynasty – C2A: missing "the". Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 20:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:Imperial families of Ming dynasty to Category:Imperial families of the Ming dynasty
• Category:People of the Jingnan Campaign to Category:People of the Jingnan campaign – C2B: per Jingnan campaign. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 20:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Ming treasure voyages. to Category:Ming treasure voyages – C2A. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 20:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Second Northern War to Category:Northern War of 1655–1660 – C2D: Main article Northern War of 1655–1660; recently renamed after RM Talk:Northern War of 1655–1660#Requested move 23 June 2024. NLeeuw (talk) 20:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Generals of the Yang Family to Category:The Generals of the Yang Family – C2D: per The Generals of the Yang Family. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 20:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Higher Education ministers of Zambia to Category:Higher education ministers of Zambia – C2A: per MOS:JOBTITLES. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 20:14, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Insurgency in the Presheva Valley to Category:Insurgency in the Preševo Valley – C2D per Insurgency in the Preševo Valley and merge into already existing category. Griboski (talk) 18:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Presheva, Medvegja and Bujanoc Liberation Army to Category:Liberation Army of Preševo, Medveđa and Bujanovac – C2D per Liberation Army of Preševo, Medveđa and Bujanovac. Griboski (talk) 18:28, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Prime ministers of Prussia to Category:Minister presidents of Prussia – C2D: per Minister President of Prussia and C2A per MOS:JOBTITLES. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Greene, New York to Category:Towns in Chenango County, New York – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 17:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Greenwich, Ohio to Category:Villages in Huron County, Ohio – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 17:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:YouTubers by network to Category:YouTubers by multi-channel network – C2C Inpops (talk) 16:25, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Food court in Singapore to Category:Food courts in Singapore – C2A: Should be plural. Paul_012 (talk) 15:26, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Munakata Shrines to Category:Munakata shrines – C2A. ^SMason_Garrison 14:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Think-tanks established in 1955 to Category:Think tanks established in 1955 – C2C: Norm is not to use a hyphen Category:Think tanks by year of establishment ^SMason_Garrison 13:06, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Works by Clara Zetkin to Category:Feminist works – C2F. ^SMason_Garrison 04:01, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Blossom, Texas to Category:Cities in Lamar County, Texas – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 22:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:West Haven, Utah to Category:Wasatch Front – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 22:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Cedar Fort, Utah to Category:Towns in Utah County, Utah – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 22:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Goshen, Utah to Category:Towns in Utah County, Utah – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 22:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Kushiro, Hokkaido (town) to Category:Kushiro (town) – C2D. AusLondonder (talk) 21:52, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Kosuge, Yamanashi to Category:Villages in Yamanashi Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 21:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Namegata to Category:Cities in Ibaraki Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 21:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Kasumigaura, Ibaraki to Category:Cities in Ibaraki Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 21:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Asahi, Nagano to Category:Villages in Nagano Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 21:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Early medieval Poland to Category:Poland in the Early Middle Ages – C2D, per Poland in the Early Middle Ages. Ham II (talk) 21:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:4th-century maharajadhirajas to Category:4th-century Maharajadhirajas – "Maharajadhiraja" is consistently capitalised in sources per ngrams. PadFoot (talk) 16:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:5th-century maharajadhirajas to Category:5th-century Maharajadhirajas
  • Category:6th-century maharajadhirajas to Category:6th-century Maharajadhirajas
  • Category:7th-century maharajadhirajas to Category:7th-century Maharajadhirajas
  • Category:8th-century maharajadhirajas to Category:8th-century Maharajadhirajas
  • Category:10th-century maharajadhirajas to Category:10th-century Maharajadhirajas
  • Category:11th-century maharajadhirajas to Category:11th-century Maharajadhirajas
  • Category:12th-century maharajadhirajas to Category:12th-century Maharajadhirajas

@PadFoot2008: Your ngram uses the singular version of the term. Wouldn't MOS:JOBTITLES apply in this case? Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Hey man im josh, plural still shows consistency in use of capitalised [1]. PadFoot (talk) 01:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

I have only tagged these categories now.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Disasters in Ming dynasty to Category:Disasters in the Ming dynasty – C2C: norm is FOO in the Ming dynasty, eg History books about the Ming dynasty ^SMason_Garrison 04:08, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Organizational ergonomics to Category:Ergonomics – C2F. ^SMason_Garrison 03:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

  Comment I don't think upmerging a redirect is helpful, so I removed it and the category is now empty. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 20:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Scholars from the Netherlands to Category:Dutch scholars – C2C: norm is FOO scholars ^SMason_Garrison 02:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Rutulian people to Category:Rutul people – C2D: Rutul people is the main page ^SMason_Garrison 02:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Italian British people by occupation to Category:British people of Italian descent by occupation – C2C: parent is British people of Italian descent ^SMason_Garrison 00:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Ohio Athletic Conference Conference football templates to Category:Ohio Athletic Conference football templates – C2A: Remove duplicate "Conference". See also related cat with no duplicate: Ohio Athletic Conference football.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  23:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Flight of the Conchords episodes to Category:Flight of the Conchords (TV series) episodes – C2B: per Flight of the Conchords (TV series). Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 22:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:People from Masty to Category:People from Masty, Belarus – C2D. Mellk (talk) 18:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Alford, Massachusetts to Category:Towns in Berkshire County, Massachusetts – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 17:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Tomiya, Miyagi to Category:Cities in Miyagi Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 17:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Yoshioka, Gunma to Category:Towns in Gunma Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 17:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Syrian ministers higher of education to Category:Ministers of higher education of Syria – C2C: Typical naming format for minister categories is with the country at the end of the category name. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:Syrian ministers of administrative development to Category:Ministers of administrative development of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of communication to Category:Ministers of communication of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of culture to Category:Ministers of culture of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of economy to Category:Ministers of economy of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of education to Category:Ministers of education of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of electricity to Category:Ministers of electricity of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of expatriates to Category:Ministers of expatriates of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of finance to Category:Ministers of finance of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of industry to Category:Ministers of industry of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of interior to Category:Ministers of interior of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of internal trade to Category:Ministers of internal trade of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of irrigation to Category:Ministers of irrigation of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of justice to Category:Ministers of justice of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of local administration to Category:Ministers of local administration of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of public works to Category:Ministers of public works of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of state to Category:Ministers of state of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of state planning to Category:Ministers of state planning of Syria
  • Category:Syrian ministers of tourism to Category:Ministers of tourism of Syria
• Category:Hinode, Tokyo to Category:Towns in Tokyo – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 17:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Higashinaruse, Akita to Category:Villages in Akita Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 17:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Finance ministers of Belgium to Category:Ministers of finance of Belgium – C2D: Minister of Finance (Belgium) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Defense ministers of Japan to Category:Ministers of defense of Japan – C2D: Minister of Defense (Japan) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Agriculture Ministers of Kerala to Category:Agriculture ministers of Kerala – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:Co-operative Ministers of Bihar to Category:Co-operative ministers of Bihar
  • Category:Education Ministers of Kerala to Category:Education ministers of Kerala
  • Category:Education Ministers of Punjab, India to Category:Education ministers of Punjab, India
  • Category:Finance Ministers of Bihar to Category:Finance ministers of Bihar
  • Category:Finance Ministers of Punjab, India to Category:Finance ministers of Punjab, India
  • Category:Finance Ministers of Rajasthan to Category:Finance ministers of Rajasthan
  • Category:Finance Ministers of Uttarakhand to Category:Finance ministers of Uttarakhand
  • Category:Home Ministers of Punjab, India to Category:Home ministers of Punjab, India
  • Category:Home Ministers of Rajasthan to Category:Home ministers of Rajasthan
  • Category:Minority Welfare Ministers of Bihar to Category:Minority welfare ministers of Bihar
  • Category:Science and Technology Ministers of Bihar to Category:Science and technology ministers of Bihar
  • Category:Transport Ministers of Bihar to Category:Transport ministers of Bihar
  • Category:Transport Ministers of Punjab, India to Category:Transport ministers of Punjab, India
• Category:Education ministers of Sri Lanka to Category:Ministers of education of Sri Lanka – C2D: Minister of Education (Sri Lanka) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Education ministers of South Africa to Category:Ministers of education of South Africa – C2D: Minister of Education (South Africa) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Petroleum and energy ministers of Norway to Category:Ministers of energy of Norway – C2D: Minister of Energy (Norway) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Defence ministers of Norway to Category:Ministers of defence of Norway – C2D: Minister of Defence (Norway) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Transport ministers of Norway to Category:Ministers of transport of Norway – C2D: Minister of Transport of Norway + C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Foreign ministers of Norway to Category:Ministers of foreign affairs of Norway – C2D: Minister of Foreign Affairs (Norway) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Fisheries ministers of Norway to Category:Ministers of fisheries and ocean policy of Norway – C2D: Minister of Fisheries and Ocean Policy + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Syrian ministers of defense to Category:Ministers of defense of Syria – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Nigerian ministers of tourism, culture and natural orientation to Category:Ministers of tourism, culture and natural orientation of Nigeria – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Colombian Secretaries of Foreign Affairs to Category:Secretaries of foreign affairs of Columbia – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:56, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose as proposed This category is related to Colombia, and therefore it should be renamed to Category:Secretaries of foreign affairs of Colombia. Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Secretaries of Foreign Affairs of the Granadine Confederation to Category:Secretaries of foreign affairs of the Granadine Confederation – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:55, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the Second Polish Republic to Category:Ministers of foreign affairs of the Second Polish Republic – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Government Communication ministers of Jordan to Category:Government communication ministers of Jordan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Syrian ministers of information to Category:Ministers of information of Syria – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Colombian Secretaries of the Interior to Category:Secretaries of the interior of Columbia – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose as proposed This category is related to Colombia, and therefore it should be renamed to Category:Secretaries of the interior of Colombia. Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:New Zealand education ministers to Category:Ministers of education of New Zealand – C2D: Minister of Education (New Zealand) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Education ministers of Malaysia to Category:Ministers of education of Malaysia – C2D: Minister of Education (Malaysia) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Education ministers of Denmark to Category:Ministers of education of Denmark – C2D: Minister of Education (Denmark) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Education ministers of Madagascar to Category:Ministers of education of Madagascar – C2D: Minister of Education (Madagascar) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Education ministers of Hungary to Category:Ministers of education of Hungary – C2D: Minister of Education (Hungary) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Education ministers of India to Category:Ministers of education of India – C2D: Minister of Education (India) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Education ministers of Angola to Category:Ministers of education of Angola – C2D: Minister of Education (Angola) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Labour and Social Security ministers of Zambia to Category:Labour and social security ministers of Zambia – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Ministers of Governance and Public Administration of Catalonia to Category:Ministers of governance and public administration of Catalonia – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:37, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose as proposed This should be rename to Category:Ministers of governance, public administration and housing of Catalonia per List of ministers of governance, public administration and housing of Catalonia. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Labour and Employment ministers of Bangladesh to Category:Labour and employment ministers of Bangladesh – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Political and Parliamentary Affairs ministers by country to Category:Political and parliamentary affairs ministers by country – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Political and Parliamentary Affairs ministers of Jordan to Category:Political and parliamentary affairs ministers of Jordan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Highways, Ports & Shipping Ministers of Sri Lanka to Category:Ministers of highways, ports & shipping of Sri Lanka – C2D: Minister of Highways, Ports & Shipping + C2C/C2A with similar cats Hey man im josh (talk) 13:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Public Works and Transport ministers of Hungary to Category:Ministers of public works and transport of Hungary – C2D: Minister of Public Works and Transport (Hungary) + C2C/C2A with similar categories. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:33, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Water and Power Ministers of Pakistan to Category:Ministers for water and power of Pakistan – C2D: See Minister for Water and Power, also C2C/C2A (MOS:JOBTITLES). Hey man im josh (talk) 13:31, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Petroleum and Natural Resources Ministers of Pakistan to Category:Petroleum and natural resources ministers of Pakistan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Minister of Railways (Pakistan) to Category:Ministers of railways of Pakistan – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Defence Secretaries of Pakistan to Category:Defence secretaries of Pakistan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Communications Ministers of Pakistan to Category:Communications ministers of Pakistan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Commerce Ministers of Pakistan to Category:Commerce ministers of Pakistan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Defence Production Ministers of Pakistan to Category:Defence production ministers of Pakistan – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Human Resources minister of Hungary to Category:Human resources ministers of Hungary – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:United States attorneys general to Category:Attorneys general of the United States – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:United States secretaries of agriculture to Category:Secretaries of agriculture of the United States – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:People of the Indo-Pakistani war of 1947 to Category:People of the Indo-Pakistani war of 1947–1948 – C2D: As per Indo-Pakistani war of 1947–1948 Gjs238 (talk) 13:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Takayama, Gunma to Category:Villages in Gunma Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 13:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Secretaries of State for War (UK) to Category:Secretaries of state for War (UK) – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Comment This should be renamed to Category:Secretaries of state for war (UK). Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Prussian Ministers of War to Category:Ministers of war of Prussia – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose as proposed This should be renamed to Category:War ministers of Prussia per List of war ministers of Prussia and the convention in Category:Government ministers of Prussia. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:United States secretaries of transportation to Category:Secretaries of transportation of the United States – C2C. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Secretaries of State for Transport (UK) to Category:Secretaries of state for transport (UK) – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Commerce, Trade and Industry ministers of Zambia to Category:Commerce, trade and industry ministers of Zambia – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Secretaries of Consumer Affairs of Puerto Rico to Category:Secretaries of consumer affairs of Puerto Rico – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Nanmoku, Gunma to Category:Villages in Gunma Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 13:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Sport, Youth and Child Development ministers of Zambia to Category:Sport, youth and child development ministers of Zambia – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Secretaries of State for Interior of San Marino to Category:Secretaries of state for interior of San Marino – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Secretaries of State for Industry of San Marino to Category:Secretaries of state for industry of San Marino – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Secretaries of State for Health of San Marino to Category:Secretaries of state for health of San Marino – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Secretaries of State for Labor of San Marino to Category:Secretaries of state for labor of San Marino – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Secretaries of State for Foreign and Political Affairs of San Marino to Category:Secretaries of state for foreign and political affairs of San Marino – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Towns in Gifu Prefecture to Category:Towns in Gifu Prefecture – C2F. AusLondonder (talk) 13:18, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  @AusLondonder: Did you nominate the correct category? Category:Towns in Gifu Prefecture is far from empty and you are asking for the category to be merged into itself. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:55, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

  Oops, I really was tired. I made that mistake with another category and self-reverted. Obviously missed this one. The nom was supposed to be for Category:Wanouchi, Gifu. AusLondonder (talk) 05:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

  I now tagged it, we should wait for 48h. Ymblanter (talk) 08:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Women Secretaries of State of Mexico to Category:Women secretaries of state of Mexico – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose as proposed It should be renamed to Category:Women secretaries of the State of Mexico as State of Mexico is proper name and is consistently capitalised in Category:State of Mexico. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 16:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Civil Services of Andhra Pradesh to Category:Civil services of Andhra Pradesh – C2A. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:50, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose per Civil Services of India. MOS:JOBTITLES doesn't apply for this. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Saint George (martyr) to Category:Saint George – C2D, per Saint George. Ham II (talk) 19:31, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:Paintings of Saint George (martyr) to Category:Paintings of Saint George

    Oppose for speedy, C2D does not apply because of Saint George (disambiguation). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Wikipedia:GLAM/NARA participants to Category:Wikipedia-National Archives and Records Administration collaboration participants – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 13:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Wikipedia:GLAM/MoMA participants to Category:Wikipedia-Museum of Modern Art collaboration participants – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 13:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Wikipedia:GLAM/The Met participants to Category:Wikipedia-Metropolitan Museum of Art collaboration participants – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 13:33, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Wikipedia:GLAM/TCMI participants to Category:Wikipedia-The Children's Museum of Indianapolis collaboration participants – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 13:33, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:WikiProject GLAM/AAA participants to Category:Wikipedia-Archives of American Art collaboration participants – C2C with parent category. Gonnym (talk) 13:31, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:WikiProject GLAM/SI participants to Category:Wikipedia-Smithsonian Institution collaboration participants – C2C with parent category. Gonnym (talk) 13:31, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:WikiProject GLAM/IMJ participants to Category:Wikipedia-Israel Museum, Jerusalem collaboration participants – C2C with parent category. Gonnym (talk) 13:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:Wikipedia:GLAM/TP participants to Category:Wikipedia-Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa collaboration participants – C2C with parent category. Gonnym (talk) 13:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose speedy for GLAM categories. There is no clear convention for the proposed format. The parent categories by themself are not enough to establish that. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 03:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Labor ministers by country to Category:Labour ministers by country – C2C: To match parent Category:Labour ministers. AusLondonder (talk) 20:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

  @AusLondonder: I actually think it should be renamed to Category:Ministers of labour by country, based on Minister of labour. I alos believe that Category:Labour ministers should thus be renamed to Category:Ministers of labour. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  The only question I have about that is consistency with the category tree Category:Government ministers by portfolio. AusLondonder (talk) 12:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, I think there are issues with that category in general @AusLondonder. I believe they were highlighted at one point when someone attempted to mass rename all of the Ministers of defense categories to defense ministers, by, I want to say, Secretlondon? Hey man im josh (talk) 12:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Yeah I remember an objection at some point earlier this year to a nomination to standardise these categories but can't recall the details. AusLondonder (talk) 13:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  @AusLondonder (sorry for repeated pinging, just don't want you to think I haven't responded or anything): My understanding, at the time, was that some countries do call their ministers "Defense minister" whereas others use "Minister of defense", so it would/should be a case by case basis. Not sure how we properly apply that to the general parent categories though. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:20, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  No need to apologise, yes that sounds familiar. If I have the time I might look back and see if I can find the discussion. AusLondonder (talk) 13:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Fayenatic london: Ymblanter (talk) 20:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

  Nice question! I think C2D could override C2C for Labour ministers, because (i) there are no country-specific titles listed at Minister of Labour which use "labour minister", and (ii) there is the potential ambiguity with Labour parties. The national sub-cats should probably be renamed "Ministers of/for labour" according to local usage. For the UK we could use the current ministerial title, Category:Secretaries of state for work and pensions, but that doesn't identify the country, so maybe keep a generic title as a parent. – Fayenatic London 17:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Expelled New York State Senators to Category:Expelled New York state senators – C2C too. Santiago Claudio (talk) 03:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

  Comment This should be renamed to Category:Expelled New York (state) state senators per the convention in Category:New York (state) state senators. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 07:56, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Opposed requests

• Category:Amazon Game Studios games to Category:Amazon Games games – C2B: per Amazon Games. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 17:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Gonnym: could you please have a look? Ymblanter (talk) 21:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose rename, instead split. Thanks for the ping. Only New World (video game) was released after the name change. The list at Amazon Games has more than these 3 games so there shouldn't be an issue of small categories if populated correctly. On a tangent note, our naming convention for this type of stuff is confusing and the category explanation isn't helpful either. Produced and distributed are two different things (and we use "developed" for games in the infobox). Gonnym (talk) 10:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:PWHL New York to Category:New York Sirens – C2D. User:Namiba 14:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:PWHL New York players to Category:New York Sirens players
• Category:PWHL Montreal coaches to Category:Montreal Victoire coaches – C2D. User:Namiba 14:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:PWHL Boston to Category:Boston Fleet – C2D. User:Namiba 14:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
  • Category:PWHL Boston coaches to Category:Boston Fleet coaches
  • Category:PWHL Boston seasons to Category:Boston Fleet seasons
• Category:PWHL Montreal to Category:Montreal Victoire – C2D. User:Namiba 14:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Category:PWHL Ottawa to Category:Ottawa Charge – C2D. User:Namiba 14:07, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

  Contesting all PWHL moves. Discussion should be had as to whether these should be separate categories pre- and post-rebrand. Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 16:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:National Rally (France) to Category:National Rally – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 18:32, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose per National Rally (disambiguation). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

@Paul Vaurie: I would support at a full CFD. AusLondonder (talk) 12:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

• Category:Pre-1876 life peers to Category:Life peers created before 1876 – C2C: with subcategories, and generally clearer — RAVENPVFF · talk · 18:22, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose: Not a list of peers created (i.e. born, or conceived) before 1876, but of peerages. “Category:Life peerages created before 1876” or “Category:Life peerages before 1876” would useful and not inaccurate, and “List of life peerages before 1876” (not category) already exists. Stephan Leeds (talk) 00:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Stephan Leeds: true, but all the subcats use "Life peers created by…", so the nomination was valid under C2C. Do you want to nominate the cat and its sub-(sub-)cats for a full CFD? – Fayenatic London 21:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

  @Stephan Leeds: This category contains biographical articles about peers (people), not articles about peerages (titles), so the category tree name is correct. As Fayenatic london stated, this is the same as all other subcategories, e.g. Category:Life peers created by Charles III. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 16:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

On hold pending other discussion

• None currently

Moved to full discussion

• Category:Baseball pitching to Category:Pitching (baseball) – C2C: to match sister category Category:Batting (baseball). Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:50, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose speedy There is no clear convention for proposed format, therefore C2C doesn't apply. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

  Moved to full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

  Relisted; now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 30#Category:Baseball pitching. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Ready for deletion

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October 6

Category:Members of the U.S. House from Minnesota to Category:U.S. Representatives from Minnesota

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Category:Members of the U.S. House from Maryland to Category:U.S. Representatives from Maryland

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October 5

Category:Millennial Wikipedians to Category:Generation Y Wikipedians (or vice-versa)

There's no need to have two such categories. Let's use only the one which is uncontroversial, there are no users who "do not accept to be described" as Generation Y AFAIK, and the title is also clearer. Army1987 14:00, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

• Delete both Imprecise and slangy. This whole scheme is a bad idea imo. But if we must have it, the categories should be named by decade, ie. Wiikipedians born in the 1980s etc. CalJW 14:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
• DELETE BOTH. Same old stuff - vanity pages for a clique within a clique. Juvenile, egotistical, unencyclopedic, worthless. Grow up, grow up grow up, or you will continue to be not taken seriously. 12.73.198.38 17:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
  • "Grow up, grow up, grow up.." Why 12.73.198.38, what maturity you show in arguement. -JCarriker 02:05, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Again Merge both categories into Category:Millennial Generation Wikipedians These are user categories and both terms are controversial. Gen Y plays to the stereotype that this generation is nothing more than GenX II, and I find that offensive. Neither term is accepted and both are controversial. This has already been debated, and no concensus was reached. Frankly, I find the nomination of a user category for deletion needlessly confrontational. It also worth noting that there are more people in the millenial category than in Gen Y, in other words this merge proposal is backward in size and is mistaken in in the neutrality of the term Gen Y. -JCarriker 02:01, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
  • What a pile of pompous poop, Carriker [Note, altho JCarriker feels free to chide my comment, above, he is utterly censorious when it comes to my responding in kind. And he sic's someone named "France2000" on me with a threat of banishment if I don't quit twitting him for twitting me. All of which goes to prove my original comment - as 12.73.198.38 - is quite apt. Those who dish it out but cannot take it are full of it, and not to be taken seriously. As for a site that supports them... 12.73.194.10 02:13, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
    • Just for the record: no-one "sic"d me onto you, I noticed you editing other people's comments in this discussion and reverted what you did. I stand by the vandalism warning I gave you on your talk page, I notice you've now received another and I have no qualms about blocking you from editing this site if your behaviour deems it necessary. -- Francs2000 02:31, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
      • Then you will also have to banish Carriker, for vandalizing *my* post at the outset. Or are you too much of a Wikicliquer to dispense Wikijustice fairly? (PS - you can threaten banishment all you want; since I'm not registered, you have no way to find me; and, be careful, I might be Prince Charles in disguise). Charlie Flagpole 14:32, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
        • Can you point out the edit where JCarriker altered a comment to this discussion that you or anyone else had made? I have looked in the history and see no evidence of this. -- Francs2000 15:39, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
  • The reason why I prefer the term "Generation Y" is because it is clearer. If one reads "Millennial Wikipedian" without knowing what that means, they cannot understand the label until they read the description of the category. Instead someone reading "Generation Y Wikipedians" can immediately understand that it refers to the generation after Generation X, or at least that it refers to a generation. See also: [7]. In addition, it is consistent with cat. Generation X Wikipedians whose title is Generation X Wikipedians and not 13th Generation Wikipedians. However, if the name "Millennial Generation" is agreed to be more suitable that "Generation Y", the title "Millennial Generation Wikipedians" will more intuitive than just "Millennial Wikipedians". --Army1987 16:26, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
    • I have no problem with changing the title to Millennial Generation Wikipedians if you insist on it. However that search provided is not particularly conclusive: Do a search for the proper plural nouns Gen Yers +generation[8] and Millennials +generation [9]. Then compare both searches to Baby Boomers +generation [10] and Gen Xers +generation [11]. Gen Yers does not stand up it alternative nor to the other generations. Millennial is not a perfect name, but it is given the fervor over the changing of the millennium that has and is still occurring during this generations birth and formative years its not a bad one. Gen Y is comparable to 13th gen in that it has been rejected by most of the generation it has been used to identified. Further more numbers aren’t everything there are reasons why Roma people does not appear at Gypsy. My generation has fought long and hard to distance itself from the negative stereotypes that were forced on Gen X. The term Gen Y is offensive, and while most wikipedians of this generation are not in love with the term Millennials they have chosen it over Gen Y. Is it really so much to ask that when we identify ourselves through user categories, that we do so through a term of our own acceptance. -JCarriker 21:17, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
      • Why is it offensive?--Army1987 12:02, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
      • I have elaborated above on that, but in short it implies that the generation is a continuation of Gen X—which is wrong—and this assumption has lead to forcing the negative stereotypes about Gen X on this generation while ignoring the good traits of both generations. An anon (172.199.22.234)user, put it somewhat cruder on my talk page and several others he/she apparently used this cat to spam about the article title. -JCarriker 22:46, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
• Merge Category:Generation Y Wikipedians into Category:Millennial Wikipedians (the opposite of the original proposal). I don't like the idea of categorizing users in this manner, but the practice obviously is going to continue (and is largely harmless). With this in mind, the more popular of the two designations should prevail (given the fact that they mean exactly the same thing). It may be true that both terms are controversial, but maintaining redundant categories defeats the very purpose of their existence. —Lifeisunfair 03:28, 6 October 2005 (UTC) Merge both categories into Category:Millennial Generation Wikipedians (per Army1987's suggestion), thereby preserving the overwhelmingly preferred designation while clarifying its meaning. —Lifeisunfair 21:33, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
• Merge them both into Category:Wikipedians born between 1977 and 1993 --Angr/_{tɔk tə mi} 07:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

As indicated in the Category:Millennial Wikipedians description, those years are "approximate." According to the Generation Y article, there is a considerable amount of debate regarding the precise cutoff points. Therefore, this category is loosely defined, and is comprised of individuals whose arbitrary definitions enable self-inclusion. It's of little encyclopedic value, but we can afford to impose lax restrictions upon user categories. —Lifeisunfair 14:17, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Okay, then merge them both into Category:Wikipedians born between about 1977 and 1993. If that generation can't agree on what to call itself, it's not Wikipedia's job to impose a name on them. --Angr/_{tɔk tə mi} 21:38, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Even "about 1977 and 1993" is far more specific than the range that is undisputed. Such a name would be significantly more arbitrary and less acceptable than the "imposition" of either of the two widely used slang designations in question (one of which — "millennial" — appears to have been accepted by the vast majority of Wikipedia users who have opted to categorize themselves as members of this generation). —Lifeisunfair 21:54, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

• Keep both and don't merge--Exir Kamalabadi^Esperanza 00:09, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Can you please elaborate? Why should we keep two 100% redundant categories (only one of which is popular)?

• Delete them again. I knew they'd come back here even as I restored them from a pointless VfU debate. -Splash^talk 02:35, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Could you please provide a link to the VFU debate? The only time this category was deleted, to my recolectionwas when it was posted here for deletion and was deleted improperly as no CFD otice was place on its page. When that notice was posted, and the vote placed back here; consensus was nor reached. Surely you would not consider the restoration for continued debate of an improperly deleted category pointless? -JCarriker 21:22, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
    • I removed the debate in this diff. I then asked the nominator what he wanted done. Repopulation? Renomination? He was wilfully obtuse and wouldn't answer me, other than to mumble about some love of process (which hinged basically on when a single edit was made). So I didn't do anything (and neither did he), and left a bunch of completely empty categories lying around. I commented at the time that they became speediable 24 hours after my restoration, but I didn't act on that observation. I made a little bet with myself over when they'd next be on CfD. It took longer than I thought. -Splash^talk 16:18, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
      • Thank you providing the link, and I'm sorry you found the nominator unresponsive (you won't have that problem with me). However, the vote for undeletion in the link was over Wikipedians by Generation, not Millennial Wikipedians. Has Millennial Wikipedians itself ever been on VFU? When Millennial Wikipedians was no notice of its CFD nomination was provided before its deletion. Again I ask: In that particular instance how was it pointless to restor a catgegory that was improperly deleted? -JCarriker 22:46, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete both, as per CalJW's initial judgment. 12.73.194.179 02:08, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete both per CalJW. siafu 03:45, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: Now I created Category:Millennial Generation Wikipedians. As for me I'm in all three categories, and will remove myself from the ones which shall have been deleted. I'll write a message to all people in the two already-pop'd categories.--Army1987 14:37, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

So far, I've written messages to all those beginning with letter A or B. I am going to be quite busy this week, so please help me. Simply copy and paste the message fromUser:Army1987/MilGenWiki to the users' talk pages and sign it with four tildes. TIA. --Army1987 14:59, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I favor the use of Category:Millennial Generation Wikipedians, but this debate's outcome is far from certain. It was imprudent to create yet another redundant category. —Lifeisunfair 16:38, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

• Merge them into Category:Millennial Generation Wikipedians and redirect Category:Millennial_Wikipedians and Category:Generation_Y_Wikipedians to it. If those categories are vanity, so are all of those Category:Wikipedians --BrendanRyan 19:33, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

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• Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 September 25
  • Category:Golf clubs and courses subcats only to be "Golf clubs and courses in <country>" ; except Chinese subcat until naming issue resolved.
    • All but Category:Chinese golf clubs and courses are completed. ∞Who?¿? 22:11, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 September 27
  • Category:Fictional heroic scientists to Category:Mad scientists
  • Category:Foreign relations of the U.S. to Category:Foreign relations of the United States
  • category:Companies traded on the ASX to category:Companies traded on the Australian Stock Exchange
  • category:Companies traded on BSE to category:Companies traded on the Bombay Stock Exchange
  • category:Companies traded on HKSE to category:Companies traded on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange
  • category:Companies traded on NYSE to category:Companies traded on the New York Stock Exchange
    • Mostly needs null edits because the Nyse template is already in the right category, but some of the articles are also in it, so I've just been removing the category from the articles that have the template. --Kbdank71 20:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
  • category:Companies traded on the SGX to category:Companies traded on the Singapore Exchange (note that the word "Stock" is not part of its name)

• Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 September 28
  • Category:UK Agencies to Category:Executive agencies of the United Kingdom government
  • Category:National Symbols of Scotland to Category:Scottish cultural icons

• Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 September 29
  • Category:Education in the UK by locality to Category:Education in the United Kingdom by locality
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  • Category:Track and field venues to Category:Athletics (track and field) venues
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  • Category:Drunk_drivers to Category:People convicted of drunk driving
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  • Category:Hotels of the United States to Category:Hotels in the United States
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