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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

Queen Victoria (pictured) acceded to the British throne ... shouldn't that be "ascended"? RoySmith (talk) 02:18, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

I Googled "acceded" and received an example of "assume an office or position. - Elizabeth I acceded to the throne in 1558". SL93 (talk) 02:19, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(June 21, tomorrow)

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(June 24)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

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General discussion

Link President of Malawi

Could we please link President of Malawi to the ITN section? Jón - (Talk) 06:47, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

For quicker turnaround, please use WP:ERRORS. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:06, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Today's (2nd of June) featured picture

At first impression a pretty nice picture: A piece of nature, balanced colors and focus. However when trying to estimate sizes you'll fail: Even if you have an idea how big a giant honey bee would be, you can hardly imagine width and height of the pictured hive. Imho somewhat poor for a presentation on WP's page one. --79.216.209.232 (talk) 14:07, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Issues with the featured image should be discussed at the appropriate section of WP:ERRORS. 331dot (talk) 14:08, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

"Honeycomb's big ... yeah yeah yeah!" That should settle it. Daniel Case (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

• Damn it, I wanted that milk! Give it back, keyboard! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

• If an individual worker measures 17–20 millimetres (0.7–0.8 in) in length, then this would probably bee about 30 cm. Of course, getting accurate measurements of a nest several metres above the ground is, to say the least, a little difficult. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

No-one asked for accurate measurements Crisco, however the assessment you made is very much appreciated: Its accuracy covers the expectations one may have when it's about a nest several meters above the ground. Thank you. --79.216.209.232 (talk) 18:20, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Featured article (June 3, Jefferson Davis

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In the "From today's featured article" text there is the phrase "he employed slave labor as did many of his peers in the South." Yet this statement is not in the article itself. Who wrote this? What is your source for that? How do you define a "peer" of Jefferson Davis? There is a myth long perpetrated in this country that EVERY land owner in the South prior to 1860 was a slave owner, that every white person in the South prior to 1860 was a slave owner, and that every white person in America today is descended from someone who owned slaves or benefitted from the North American Slave Trade. This of course is all NOT true. While I realize there is some paraphrasing done in the creation of the FA teaser, whoever is creating it should not embellish nor add content that is not sourced in the article itself. Eric Cable  |  Talk  12:33, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

There was detailed discussion of the blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Jefferson Davis. You've not quoted the line in full " As a plantation owner, he employed slave labor as did many of his peers in the South" -- so peers would be "plantation owners", which I think is clear in this context (and uncontroversial). But the blurb was mulled over by quite a few people (many people contributed to it); if you're interested in helping out with these blurbs in the future keep an eye on WP:TFAR. -- Shudde ^talk 12:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Not to mention that the phrase "as did many of his peers" can in no way be considered an argument that "EVERY land owner in the south..." Resolute 13:32, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

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Get that repulsive DYK off the front page NOW.

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"Did you know...that an American serial killer said that he killed women before having sex with them because "I like peace and quiet"? What kind of imbecile thinks this is even remotely appropriate? AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:26, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Looks like quite a few people did. I'll ping them here, because they may be interested in commenting. OccultZone (talk · contribs) Storye book (talk · contribs) Yoninah (talk · contribs) Maury Markowitz (talk · contribs) Mandarax (talk · contribs). Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 00:34, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I have also raised this at WP:ANI. And may well raise the matter with the WMF. This sort of nonsense has gone on far too long, and can only bring Wikipedia into disrepute. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

This seems like stirring up a tempest in a teapot to me. Since when does ANI get involved in content disputes? Let alone the WMF. I can see how it might offend some (though not me personally), but it's already on the main page and will most likely be off the main page before any consensus forms. --Jakob (talk) 00:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

This is not a 'content dispute'. IT IS GROSSLY OFFENSIVE, AND SHOULD BE REMOVED. NOW. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:49, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

This sets an excellent precedent for the Tiananmen Square and D-Day hooks, that anyone with fragile sensibilities can erase anything with little or no discussion just by calling people imbeciles and TYPING IN ALL CAPS. Maury Markowitz (talk) 01:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

@AndyTheGrump: Dude, chill. This kind of aggressive language is not appropriate.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Where exactly is the aggressive language, FutureTrillionaire? Big scary caps? Seriously, "chill". –Prototime (talk · contribs) 01:30, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Floquenbeam (talk · contribs) has removed the hook. Discussion moot. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 00:51, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I somehow doubt that discussion is going to stop now... --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:53, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

The more I think about it, the more I do agree with the removal of this hook. Certainly more interesting hooks can be found, and ones that appeal to a broader audience. --Jakob (talk) 00:59, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Where was this voted on? Where can we read on the supports for it?75.73.114.111 (talk) 01:09, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Incidents of Necrophilia Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 01:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

While it's certainly not the most tastefully-put hook ever, it's also not worth throwing a strop over. Neither ANI nor directly involved the WMF seem remotely appropriate venues for what is wholly a content issue. GRAPPLE X 01:17, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

The image that Wikipedia presents to the public, and to potential contributors, is not a 'content issue'. The WMF has made it clear on multiple occasions that it wishes to see the contributor base broadened, and offensive material of this kind is exactly what isn't needed.

Incidentally, as our article on Henry Lee Lucas makes clear, it was conclusively proven that he 'confessed' to crimes he didn't commit, and appears on multiple occasions to have said whatever his interrogators wanted to hear - which makes the veracity of the hook more than a little suspect anyway. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:33, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Except it is a content issue, as this was simply a matter of taste as regards to content which broke no guidelines—the first port of call should have been here or WT:DYK, possibly followed by an RFC on the wider issue of what is or isn't "appropriate" or if such a distinction should exist. Running to the WMF for something like this is serious Chicken Little behaviour and I hope for everyone's sake you don't react this way to everything that upsets you or little actual work will ever be done. GRAPPLE X 01:38, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

It is unbelievable that that crap "hook" to a crap article (it is highly disputed whether Herodotus actually went to Egypt, "Herod slept with his dead wife for seven years", I have studied a lot about Herod and never heard that before) got onto the main page, well done Andy for ringing alarms about it, it is utterly disgraceful. Something is very very wrong with this process, I would be inclined to say DYK should be abolished.Smeat75 (talk) 01:45, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I agree that this was an utterly horrible hook for many reasons, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 01:48, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Given the propensity this 'baby' has shown for WP:BLP violations, sub-tabloid sensationalism, and the promotion of substandard articles, I'd have to suggest that it is high time it was thrown off the main page. It does nothing to enhance Wikipedia's reputation, and seems to exist solely for the purposes of ego-massaging the regulars. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:59, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia should contain controversial material, but DYK hooks are still required to follow WP:NPOV. This attempt fails. Removing it is correcting an error. The quote parroted the view of someone we would consider an unreliable source for a worthwhile opinion on the subject. (I'm sure the citation was accurate about whether he said the words, but not whether they were due a huge, or any, amount of weight). __ E L A Q U E A T E 01:56, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't think two people opposed to this hook have agreed on why they're opposed to it. That's usually a sure sign of thinly veiled WP:IDONTLIKEIT. 75.69.10.209 (talk) 02:38, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I cannot believe that this misogynistic statement made it all the way to the DYK. Disgusting and hateful. Anything making light of the murder and rape of women as that statement did should not be acceptable. What's next, Holocaust jokes? EvergreenFir (talk) 02:43, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

That DYK hook is sexist, misogynist garbage. It's just repulsive. What's next? Nigger jokes on DYK? This is supposed to be Wikipedia, not 4chan. Thank you to whoever removed it. Kaldari (talk) 03:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to be the devil's advocate but how was it misogynistic? What if the text said "that an American serial killer said that she killed men before having sex with them because "I like peace and quiet"? Would the text become misandric? I feel like the DYK was all right as stuff like that happens in the world. Heck, I actually read the article because of it. GamerPro64 03:08, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Considering that there isn't a cultural stereotype of men preferring to excessively talk instead of having sex, no, that hook wouldn't have much of anything misandric to play off of. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 03:14, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

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It is a massive failing this made it to the main page. It has nothing to do with censorship; it has everything to do with having even the most mean and miniscule sense of decorum (it would also be nice to avoid cutting off our noses to spite our faces).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:27, 5 June 2014 (UTC)