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June 10

USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69)

I'm a former crewmember of the 'IKE' and noticed several parts of the Deployment History were in need of citations for validation of the affected passages. What type of information is considered a bona fide source of information? I have four cruise books, one for each deployment when I was aboard the carrier, and may be able to access and cite other sources as needed to help out. Thank you for your time and assistance in this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Don tireman (talk • contribs) 02:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Don. What we look for are reliable, published, independent, secondary sources (though published primary sources can be used carefully). Think reputable books, newspaper articles, magazine write ups, television documentaries, etc., reporting on matters with which they are unconnected. I emphasized the word published because I got the impression from what you wrote that the "cruise books" are like logs taken from the ship that may be unpublished (but after looking and finding sites like this one my impression may be unfounded). If they have been published they can be used, though we would certainly prefer a secondary source.

We could always use a helping hand, especially by someone who understands the source material in the way you must, having lived it. That lack of distance can also be a two edged sword because you know things that are not in sources. Please just remember that we don't allow original research; as a tertiary source, Wikipedia articles properly synthesize what published secondary and primary sources have already said about a topic, and we do so using neutral language and content. If you need help with the technical aspects of citing sources, I would start with referencing for beginners, and you could always drop us a note here. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:29, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Thanks for the help. The site you listed is the best thing I have available to me, and should meet the source requirement, as it is a published Web source, short of something coming from the ship's Public Affairs Office. The 'cruise books,' although not published for the general public, contain unclassified general information about where the ship(s) went on their deployments, dates of port visits and other information and are in the hands of thousands of crewmembers who have been aboard throughout the ship's service history. Sincerely, Don Tireman Don tireman (talk) 18:48, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Robert Marien

Bonjour,

Sur la page française de Wikipédia, Robert Marien est né en 1955, sur la page Wikipédia anglaise, il est né en 1956, et sur IMDB il est aussi né en 1956...peut-être la page française est-elle fausse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.30.92.181 (talk) 03:16, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

My French isn't that good, but this indicates 1955, if Mr. Marien is being quoted (I can't tell). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 03:59, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

You're right, John Broughton. --ColinFine (talk) 21:56, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Arranging userboxes

Hi there, I'm normally good with coding, but I'm having a bad day. Could someone give me some pointers on how to arrange userboxes on my page?

Preferably neatly arranged in a table with borders, but anything works.

Thanks alot,

Dantheman4297 (talk) 08:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

On My userpage, I use the following :-

{| name="userboxes" id="userboxes" style="float: right; margin-top: 2em; margin-right: 1em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; width: 242px; border: #99B3FF solid 1px; clear: right" |-
| style="text-align: center"
|-
|}

Just put the userboxes in like this -

|-
| {{USERBOX}}
|-

Hope that's clear :) Mdann52 (talk) 08:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Mine are in a table with each row a different type/theme of userboxes - take a look. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, but I still don't get it? Do you have permission to edit my user page and do it for me? If so can you do it please? Thanks,

Dantheman4297 (talk) 08:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I've made an edit, padding each user box to the same depth so that they arrange themselves neatly. Any good? Feel free to undo it, of course. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:01, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

It's great, I really like it. Thanks so much for your help, it is exactly what I wanted.

Thanks,
Dantheman4297 (talk) 23:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

can an article about the SEF be added please?

http : // www . sef.scot.nhs . uk/ Scottish Enhanced Functionality - health board (SEF) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.254.184.38 (talk) 08:55, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Here is a correctly formatted version of the URL: http://www.sef.scot.nhs.uk/ . It seems to me unlikely that this organisation is notable enough to justify a Wikipedia article about it. Maproom (talk) 09:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

How to change the headline

There is an article in English about the Amiga game called "Turboraketti II". The headline is misleading because there is no such game. "Turboraketti" does exist but it doesn't have a sequel (although many sources in Internet suggests so). In the Finnish version of the same article there is a link to the review where the creator of the game explains that there is a beta version and the final version of the same game and some people think that the final version is the sequel but that's not true. How can I change the headline "Turboraketti II" to "Turboraketti"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Testerinen (talk • contribs) 12:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done - you are unable to change titles, as you are not part of the right user groups yet. You need 10 edits, and 4 days on Wikipedia to move pages. Mdann52 (talk) 12:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism revert please

Could someone please revert the vandalism to Note 31 at List of longest runways. I can't see how to fix it. Thanks.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 13:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Dealt with. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Making large scale edits to a page

I am an employee of Alpha International and we are looking to update ~30% of the content on the Alpha course page (Alpha course). Please could you advise on what is best practice in carrying out large edits. All 'new' content is in line with the organisation's development and re-branding. I welcome your recommendations.Lsimpson2013 (talk) 14:01, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Don't - you have a clear conflict of interest in editing the page at all - please read our policy here. If you wish to suggest changes on the talk page, and provide reliable third party sources for these - not your own primary sources - then an uninvolved editor wiill make the appropriate changes. Arjayay (talk) 14:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

That article is already too promotional, and many of the references it cites are clearly not independent. Maproom (talk) 15:50, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

and one which claimed to be from "The Independent on Sunday" (a respected UK newspaper) was in fact from the organisation's own web site. Maproom (talk) 15:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Also see WP:NOT, since you may not have a clear sense of what the rules here say that Wikipedia articles should and should not be. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:42, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Help needed

How do I site an internet reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avkendall (talk • contribs) 15:42, 10 June 2013‎ (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources and Template:Cite web. Dru of Id (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Can you "unthank" someone?

Recently there has appeared a new "thank" link when you look at an article's history. Since it is right next to the "undo" link, and is located right where the "undo" button used to be, I have accidently clicked it when trying to undo a bad edit. Is there a way for me to undo thanking someone for a bad edit? Deli nk (talk) 18:08, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Wait. This question was recently raised at Wikipedia talk:Notifications/Thanks, and they've put together a solution, which I quote: Per the feedback we received on the problems with the Thank links, we've added a confirmation step: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/67591/. The code still needs to be reviewed and merged, but it should go out some time in the next few weeks. Kaldari (talk) 04:34, 9 June 2013 (UTC). Basically, there's nothing you can do about it right now, but once they get this software update finished, you'll be asked to confirm that you've clicked the right button. I don't think an undo feature would be workable — the recipient is notified immediately, so undoing a thanks would be as impossible as un-sending an email. Nyttend (talk) 18:13, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

That would be a good solution. Thanks! Deli nk (talk) 18:18, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

EDIT AN IMAGE

There is a photo of me on my page that I did not place there. I don't like it and want to replace or remove it. How do I go about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.228.177 (talk) 19:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

There is nothing at all on your user page so you will have to give us more specific information. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

If you mean that there is an article about you in the encyclopaedia and you want to provide a better image to replace the existing one, you can do this, but you must (a) own the copyright or get the copyright holder's permission (and prove it), and (b) be prepared to license it appropriately so that other people can take it and reuse it afterwards. You cannot, for example, upload an image if you are only prepared to allow it to be used on Wikipedia. Information is at Wikipedia:Uploading images. Once you have successfully uploaded a suitable image under an appropriate licence, you can insert it into the article - see Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. If you are removing the existing picture, it would be good practice to discuss your grounds for doing so on the article's talk page: for example, if the new image is more recent or of a better quality than the old one, or you are more recognisable in it, then those would be good grounds for the change. Please read WP:COI so that you are aware of the potential problems of making changes to articles with which you have a close association. - Karenjc 20:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Searching a wikipedia article for keywords

Once I am reading an article, I would like to be able to search within the article and have it highlight all the instances of a word or phrase within the article. I read the advanced search information, and if the information I want was there, I wasn't able to understand it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by R Stillwater (talk • contribs) 19:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC) RStillwater (talk) 19:19, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Hold down the CTRL key and press F. A small search box will appear in any browser. Type your word there. — The Potato Hose 19:29, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Or Command-F on a Mac. Howicus (talk) 19:45, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

To add to what the Potato Host and Howicus said: this is a function Wikipedia does not provide, because all modern browsers do provide it. --ColinFine (talk) 22:00, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

But it's an extremely useful feature many people (apparently an amazing 90% [1]) don't know so I have added it to Help:Searching.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:14, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

That is fascinating. 90%. I must use it 50 times a day.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I agree, I use it all the time. I recently was helping someone do something, told them to Control-F and they did, but their response indicated that it was new to them. I was stunned. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:45, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Switch Communications

Switch Communications official name has been change to Switch and their website is now http://www.switchlv.com/

Change needs to be made on the following page:

Switch Communications — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.80.204.77 (talk) 19:43, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

The article has been updated and moved to Switch (company). PrimeHunter (talk) 21:50, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

destroyers at nomnandy omission

uss Herndon dd638 on station off beach before any landings june sixth

provided fire support for troops in naval ships history — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.77.165.140 (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

If you think any change should be made to the article USS Herndon (DD-638), you should suggest it on that article's talk page, Talk:USS Herndon (DD-638). However, it appears to me that that info is already there. Rojomoke (talk) 21:29, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Show Improved Diff View not working

I have the green "show improved diff view" delta on my diff pages. It stopped working about a month ago, without my having made any changes I am aware of to my settings, same computer, same browser, etc. Now I get a one-line deep empty box below the delta with no diff shown when I click on it. Any suggestions on how to get back the actual enhanced view? Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 20:59, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

It works for me. Try to clear your entire cache. What is your browser and skin? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:45, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I use Safari and Monobook. I have purged my cache through the browser and using shift reload. Still just getting an empty box under the green delta after I click on it. μηδείς (talk) 21:50, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps someone could tell me how to turn the function off entirely, then how to restore it? I searched the archives for this, and the preferences, and am clueless at this point. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 22:01, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Safari is not listed at User:Cacycle/wikEdDiff#Supported browsers. I have tested Safari on Windows Vista and it also fails for me in both Monobook and Vector. You have it in User:Medeis/vector.js but if you use Monobook then that code is not activated so you must have enabled wikEdDiff or wikEd at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. You said "It stopped working about a month ago" and User:Cacycle/wikEdDiff.js was edited 15 May. Maybe that broke something in Safari which is apparently not among the officially supported browsers, so changes may not be tested in Safari. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't know JavaScript but my testing shows it was indeed the 15 May update from wikEdDiff 0.9.17 to 0.9.18 which broke it in Safari. I copied the old version to User:PrimeHunter/wikEdDiff 0.9.17.js, disabled wikEdDiff at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and added this to Special:MyPage/common.js:

importScript('User:PrimeHunter/wikEdDiff 0.9.17.js');

I don't know which 0.9.18 changes may be missed but at least it runs in Safari. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I have posted the issue to User talk:Cacycle/wikEdDiff#Version 0.9.18 broken in Safari. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:58, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I created User:Medeis/common.js with [3] with the suggested script, used the browser empty cache function, as well as shift reload, and rebooted. I am still not getting the enhanced diff. I requested help before adding a special page for script that lets me click an X on my watchlist to unwatch a page. I had no difficulty creating it, but it didn't work until someone came along last week and did something to "approve" the page. Do I need an admin's attention on this page I just created to get it working? And do these scripts need to be on the same page, or their own pages? Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 00:24, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Medeis/common.js is right and doesn't require someone to do something. I have the same code at User:PrimeHunter/common.js. Did you remember to disable wikEd/wikEdDiff at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets? Others cannot do it for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Haha! I just came back to say that I had forgotten to disable the gadget, and now that I have done so it works!

You guys are amazing. (To think I can write the line code to give you free Bell Telephone service for life....)

Thanks! μηδείς (talk) 00:57, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Great! Note that if you should later change skin to Vector then you will have the same version conflict because User:Medeis/vector.js loads the current wikEdDiff version. User:Medeis/common.js is loaded in all skins. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:06, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I'll keep that in mind. But, frankly, if I could go back to Netscape 2.0 I would. μηδείς (talk) 01:07, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Resolved

Mass re-formatting of dates

The references in List of libertarians in the United States, due to its previous incarnation as List of libertarians, use exclusively date-before-month style dates, whereas the article's national specificity now requires date-before-month per WP:STRONGNAT. Is there any tool I can use to quickly and painlessly change them to the correct format? I'm aware of WP:AWB but don't really have access to a PC on which I can install software. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:24, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

You can tag the article with {{Use mdy dates}}; the documentation there notes that the purpose of the tag is to flag the article for a bot to systematically keep all of the dates of the correct format; though I don't know one way or the other if this has been implemented. --Jayron32 21:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand that documentation. There are more than 35,000 articles with that template (visible only in edit mode); if there is a bot involved, it would have to be one that swept through all 35,000 articles periodically, or monitored recent changes against a list of over 35,000 articles.

More practically, one might look at Wikipedia:Date formattings#Tools. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates did the trick. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

June 11

Brian Kosoff

<article content removed> “Bones, the Unity of Form and Function” Macmillan Publishing, 1994, all original photography by Brian Kosoff — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatriciaAnnMora (talk • contribs) 01:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey there! I collapsed the content, but it's still there! I think you may have been looking to put this in the WP:Article wizard, to create a new article draft. If so, feel free to follow the prompts there and create it, if not, please tell me how else we can help! Charmlet (talk) 02:15, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

This material didn't belong here, and you've already used it elsewhere so I've removed.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:56, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

South African History

Dear Sirs

I notice this page is not enabled for comments..? Is this not jeopardising the Integrity of Wiki ? So many facts are wrongly presented with obvious subjective motives. Even the current news and publications proofs this page so wrong and poorly presented. Who would be behind this .. Yet another Money force ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.251.210.127 (talk) 02:26, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

It actually is "enabled for comments". See the talkpage here - Talk:History of South Africa to make comments. Always keep in mind, for everything on Wikipedia, that you must cite everything to reliable sources and make neutral suggestions to have them considered. Charmlet (talk) 02:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Rugrats in Paris: The Movie - Copyvio?

Heya, I just did some chopping to Rugrats in Paris: The Movie, but the article on the whole doesn't sit well with me because it seems that a play-by-play of a movie's storyline would be SOME kind of copyvio per the writeup at WP:PLOTONLY. Am I nuts, or is this article overly-detailed. (Note: this might also be a false-dilemma, as I might be nuts AND the article is overly-detailed.) Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:35, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

There isn't any hard-and-fast rule about what level of detail does and doesn't constitute a copyright violations (such is the way of the law). For example, at Twin Peaks, you'll find episode descriptions that are more detailed than the article you've brought up. In general, it's only an issue if the content owner dislikes the detail in a Wikipedia article, in which case it's likely to get shortened very quickly.

But, as always, any editor has the right to edit an article to improve it (as he/she sees it). So, one option is for you to reduce the amount of detail, and see whether other editors disagree. A second option is to post at Talk:Rugrats in Paris: The Movie, mentioning your discontent and possibly your intention to edit the article accordingly, and see if other editors object or agree. (You may well get no response at all, of course.) A third option is to post at Wikipedia talk:Plot-only description of fictional works; you're quite likely to get more informed feedback there than here. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

"Database Error" on new user ID creation

Hello, I have information to correct "dead links" in Wikipedia articles, but when attempting to generate a new user ID, I receive a "Database Error". When attempting to log in I receive a "user ID in use"/"Invalid password or user ID" error. I does not seem to matter how I modify a "new user ID" to meet the "DB" requirements. Does Wikipedia just want to live with "dead links" or "publically visible IP addresses"? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.111.54.159 (talk) 05:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry you are having difficulty creating an account. Wikipedia has so many registered users that it is possible that the usernames you have tried have all already been taken. If your problems persist, someone at Wikipedia:Request an account ma be able to create one for you. - Karenjc 06:53, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

A tiny mistake

On this page, Prestat , the person given as founder, Antoine Dufour is not the same Antoine Dufour the the link directs you to (a musician). This chocolate store in London was founded in 1902 by Antoine Dufour and this person cannot be the same as the guitarist born in 1979. I suggest you remove the link to the name 'Antoine Dufour' on the Prestat page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.207.76.101 (talk) 06:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Someone has now fixed the error. Thank you for pointing it out. Please feel free to fix any similar errors if you see them, with an appropriate edit summary. - Karenjc 06:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Error message

I deleted a sentence with incorrect information. A footnote accompanied it, which I also deleted. But the source remained in the reference list, and now there is an error message there. Apparently you can't edit the reference list directly, so I don't know how to fix this problem. The article is "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines". Treplag (talk) 06:54, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Treplag

I'm looking into it... Dismas|^(talk) 07:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Got it. The same reference can be used more than once in an article. To keep from having to type the same reference over and over again, just a name can be used. In this edit you removed the "Munn" reference. That reference is also called in another place in the article using just the name of the reference. With no original reference to refer back to for the content, all the article had was the name for the ref. You might want to read over Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners if you're unfamiliar with how to use references here. Dismas|^(talk) 07:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

(I don't know if I am supposed to reply here, or on my talk page, or on the page with the article. I hope you see it.) Thanks for your assist with the deletion. I surmised that the problem resulted because the footnote referenced other text that remained, but I looked over the article and couldn't find it. Treplag (talk) 05:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)Treplag

It's sort of up to you. If you feel the person that you're replying to needs to see what you're saying, then posting here and then posting to their talk page to call attention to it is fine. If you just want to say thank you for a response here, then you can just post here with a quick note. If the person comes back and sees it, that's fine. If they don't, then it's just good karma. As it happens, I saw your later question here at the Help Desk and decided to check for a response here at this question. Dismas|^(talk) 06:51, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Before I go ahead and add it to User:Launchballer/Elephant (Tame Impala song),

is http://www.musicvf.com/song.php?id=141092 a reliable source? I'm using a school computer and they've blocked it. (I'm using it to source its UK chart position of #131.)--Launchballer 09:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. Mdann52 (talk) 10:06, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Ben Hunt-Davis

Hi I want to edit this page to show Ben's work as an author - - Ben Hunt-Davis

I also want to add his most recent website http://www.willitmaketheboatgofaster.com/

Could you tell me if that's okay to add these and where they should be added?

Thanks Will it make the boat go faster (talk) 11:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Since (judging by your username) you are either Ben or working for him: no. You have a clear-cut conflict of interest. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:26, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

(ec) There already seems to be a mention of the book in the article. As for the website, it is entirely acceptable to add a link person or company's official website, but not to link to a site which is or appears to be for the purpose of selling something (see WP:EL for more information. As that website is for a company, and does not even mention Ben's name on the front page, it is certainly not appropriate. If the company passes Wikipedia's criteria for notability there could be an article about the company, and I think a link to that website would be appropriate on such a page.

However, judging by your username, I suspect you are either Ben Hunt-Davis yourself, or an employee of the company. If either of these is the case, you should make yourself aware of our policy on conflict of interest, and be very cautious about editing articles about either him or the company. Your username may also contravene our username policy, which prohibits usernames which appear to represent organisations rather than individuals. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 13:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Marker not displayed in location map

Hi! I want to add a marker to the location map in Sistema Sac Actun. I tried to follow the description given at Infobox cave to no avail. Any ideas? Alfie↑↓© 12:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Fixed.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:39, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

THX! Alfie↑↓© 12:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Adding search box within a wiki article

Hi, I am trying to make a wiki page with a lot of information. It would be extremely helpful if I could include a search bar that would highlighted the text typed in. Is there any way of doing this? If so could you provide me with the code? Thank you. Also if the page would self adjust that would be helpful as well but not necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.168.71.66 (talk) 13:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

There should be no need for such a search bar, as a search facility is provided by all modern browsers: hold down the CTRL key and press F and a search box appears. Or if you are using a Mac, it's Command-F. Maproom (talk) 13:55, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Our search engine cannot locate occurrences of a string within the page you are viewing but browsers can usually do this with Ctrl+F, or ⌘ Command+F on a Mac. For registered editors there are tools to search the edit box, for example in wikEd. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:56, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Talk page with different title of page itself

When I click on the Talk of Migrant worker I see Talk:Migrant labor. Just curious. XOttawahitech (talk) 13:52, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

So do I. It seems that Talk:Migrant worker is a redirect. My guess is that someone once moved, or copied, the "Migrant labor" article to "Migrant worker", didn't do it right, and preserved the old talk by using a redirect. I think the result is a mess that could be fixed, preferably by someone with a better understanding of redirects than I have. Maproom (talk) 13:59, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually, somebody moved the talk page without moving the article. I have moved the talk page back to Talk:Migrant worker. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Editing with a Linux

? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sainey Yto Beltflashgordon (talk • contribs) 14:36, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Please elaborate, you should be able to edit on an Linux without problem. Falkirks^Talk 14:48, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Texas A&M School of Law

Dear Sirs:

This email is to alert you that at present (June 11, 2013) there is NOT YET a Texas A&M School of Law.

Texas A&M University and Texas Wesleyan University entered into a letter of agreement on June 26, 2012, whereby Texas A&M would purchase Texas Wesleyan School of Law. There are still SACS and ABA approvals that must be received (and possibly some other issues as well) before the acquisition will be finalized. If everything proceeds as planned, the acquisition appears to be on track for final approval about mid-August 2013.

Sincerely,

Dan Brothers Director of Marketing Texas Wesleyan School of Law 1515 Commerce Street Fort Worth, Texas 76102 (817) 212-4064 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.64.88.144 (talk) 14:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. It appears somebody has been precipitate in editing, and possibly moving, the article which is now Texas A&M School of Law; though I am puzzled, because I can't find evidence of a move in the page's history. Perhaps somebody with more Wikipedia-fu than me can sort it out. --ColinFine (talk) 23:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

@ColinFine: The prior history is here, and it's clear that someone botched the rename. I've posted a note about this at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:30, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Dallas Fort Worth Baseball Members

My husband is Gene Etter. He played professionally for the Dallas Fort Worth Spurs for 5 years.

In 1966 we were married at homeplate before a Dallas Fort Worth Spurs game.

3 of the five years, he was voted Most Popular Player.

I would appreciate your adding him to the list of baseball players who played for the Dallas Fort Worth Spurs.

If you need validation, I have newspaper articles with his name appearing in the lineup.

I also have articles about our Homeplate Wedding. 7 thousand people attended the wedding74.221.188.175 (talk) 14:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)Eddie Lewis Etter

It seems like the only players mentioned by name at the Dallas-Fort Worth Spurs article are those who went on to play in the major leagues. So unless your husband did that, he probably shouldn't be added. Howicus (talk) 15:41, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

How to upload in wikipedia

How can one upload in wikipedia pls — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrcoins1 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

You can upload to commons or use the Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard to upload it to Wikipedia. You must be autoconfirmed to do this. Falkirks^Talk 15:50, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

re: strongly biased and incomplete articles

Edwin Mellen Press (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Dear Wikipedia Editors,

I am very concerned that some Wiki articles like the one for Edwin Mellen Press have very recently become simply springboards for disgruntled individuals who greatly dislike the business or its heads, and are plugging us into a very bitter on-going case dispute about slander as well as freedom of speech, so that we are strongly persuaded to agree with these advocates of one side. These articles, I believe, have a responsibility to provide objective facts and information to give Wiki readers an understanding of the history and perspectives of these institutions. I know a couple of "Mellen" authors, and did some fact checking on the subject of this acrimonious piece, "Mellen," and found that, contrary to the "vanity, gibberish" suggestions of the article, it has several thousand authors and that its publications are housed in hundreds of research libraries worldwide (WorldCat), a number of which are discipline specific. Although its books seem to be generally of good to average quality in the publishing business, I found through a random sampling that many of its books are endorsed by academic authors who are well published and tied to a good university or publisher, and very likely well-known in that subject or discipline.

I write this because I have been endorsing Wikipedia for schools and colleges and am now concerned that there is pressure to make it into a blog advocating the personal biases of people who are making news at the present time. Thank you for listening.

Michaelnc408 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

from a quick look at the article, it appears that the criticisms of Edwin Mellen Press are properly cited at least. I'm not quite sure what you mean by a dispute about 'freedom of speech' in that it appears that is the Press that has been taking out libel actions against its critics - though if you have evidence to the contrary, and can cite a reliable source for it, I suggest you raise the matter at the article talk page. A for your own research on the subject, I'm afraid that we can only go by what published sources say, and personal testimonies aren't admissible. I'll place a link to these comments on the article talk page, so contributors are at least aware of them, but really you need to discuss the issues there yourself (after finding any necessary sources). If, after discussing issues, you can't resolve the matter, you could either raise it at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard, or look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution to see how to proceed. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:14, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I am puzzled by the question. When Michaelnc408 wrote "some Wiki articles like the one for Edwin Mellen Press ... are plugging us into a very bitter on-going case dispute", who does "us" refer to? Surely not Mellen Press, who are the plaintiffs in the court cases, and so were "plugged in" to them right from the start. And surely not Wikipedia editors – the question above is Michaelnc408's first contribution to Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 19:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Estelle Craig

Collapsing draft article--ukexpat (talk) 18:01, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Estelle Craig is a producer and director of World Adventure Tours for 41 years, bringing in celebrities such as Sir Edmund Hillary, The Duke of Bedford, Lowell Thomas and British Prime Minister Clement Atlee to Toronto Canada to Eaton Auditorium and Ryerson Theatre. Publisher and editor of Small Types magazine a magazine for young children. Estelle Craig is a play write who continues to write into her 98th year. She was widely viewed nationally in her documentary STELLA IS 95 on PBS in 2013 directed by Robin Melanie Leacock. Estelle Craig is a past President of The Variety Club and The Press Club. She is the author of two books " UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES " and "AS I WAS SAYING " . She is the creator and Benefactor of The RoseHill Gardens in Toronto and a community activist . A Senior Theatre Group has been named after her THE ESTELLE CRAIG ACT 2 STUDIO. Estelle Craig has been a columnist and has had her own weekly radio program. She has organized and led a number of travel groups around the world and has created a name for herself in world travel. Her husband was a chemical engineer who worked on the Manhattan Project and was the sole owner of a private pharmaceutical manufacturing company in Toronto Canada and she has 3 children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mizzee26 (talk • contribs) 16:22, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The Help Desk isn't the right place to create a draft article. Please follow the process described at WP:AFC.--ukexpat (talk) 18:01, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Chobham RFC/ Chobham Rugby

I had note that I have copied Chobham Rugby Club info for a page I created.

The info is copied from our website and the wikipedia Chobham pages which i have contributed to.

There are 2 pages Chobham RFC and Chobham Rugby as in our sport people search for both.

What is the problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rugbyh (talk • contribs) 16:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Chobham RFC and Chobham Rugby Club are indeed two articles about the same subject. Neither are compliant with the minimum standards for articles. Which one has content copied from another website? Which website is it? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

While I was writing the above one of them was deleted, the other will probably be deleted soon. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

writing a book dont know copy right laws.

Use a number of china Ideas such as Yin Fu King and Mysterious Tally where I say Character remembers Perfect stillness is entire disinterestedness in it which springs to mind activity through the eyes. The mind quickens by things about that leads to excessive pursuit, which causes it to die of thought excess. This is an example. Am I alright to footnote the article where I found this line? If I use I-T, I-T is Chinese God of wine. Do I have to reference this? If I create a paragraph on subject of Yin and Yang from all there is written about Yin and Yang; do I have to receive permission to express such a summarization of the body of work on Yin Yang? If I tell a story of Yellow Emperor and his dream travel to a place inhabited by spirits who walked on air and slept in space etc; this is told many times in different books and articles. Do I need to foot note one article, can I summarize the work as so as to fit into my character and story, or do I need to stick to the text and gain authority to work with such a story? These are the questions that I need to understand. I say Yinyang is basis of the Book of Changes, an importnat part of Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine -earlist Chinese medical book written 2,000 years ago. Did I break a copyright law in such a general statement? Could you offer me advice and direction as to how safe I am to use such ideas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.11.76.2 (talk) 18:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. We do NOT offer legal advice here. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:48, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I think, Citing Wikipedia is possibly what they are after, but i'm also fairly unclear. CaptRik (talk) 19:58, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

• The OP, who is probably Chinese, is asking when it is a copyright violation to use material learned from someplace. The answer, first, is that each country has its own rules, and I don't know the rules in China, if that is what this is about. The answer in general is that copyright applies to the specific form of expression in a source. So if you copy the specific words from a book or article, or the way that information is organized in a book or article, you might be violating copyright. (There are some exceptions.) If you only use information from an article, though, it is usually not a violation of copyright. Looie496 (talk) 23:57, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

deleting redirects from my user pages

Hello, both my user pages "sandbox" and "talk:you have messages" redirect, each to two different articles. I'd like to delete the redirects with out changing the articles themselves, of course. How can I do that? Thank you very much.DocFido (talk) 20:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I have removed both redirects from these pages you can simply prevent an article from redirecting by adding ?redirect=no to the URL. Falkirks^Talk 20:27, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

You can also find a note 'Redirected from' just below the page's title (see an image near the TOC at Wikipedia:Redirect) – the blue link just after 'Redirected from' leads to the redirecting page. Follow that link and edit the redirecting page to clean things up. --CiaPan (talk) 10:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Mesut Ozil

To whom is interested, The assist chart in Mesut Ozil's statistics has been removed a couple of months ago for an unknown reason. His page is locked so I can't edit it back, if there's a chance you could fix it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.110.125.95 (talk) 23:56, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

You'll probably get a better response if you leave this message on the article's talk page. You could also put {{Edit semi-protected}} before your message/request. Scarce2 (talk) 00:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

The unregistered user could also create and confirm a registered account, which has other advantages, and would then be able to edit the article directly. Also, the page appears to have semi-protected for several months. It might be worth unprotecting it. The assist chart might have been removed as vandalism, that is, for no valid reason, and that might be why the page was semi-protected. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

If you leave a request for the assist chart to be put back, please be more precise about when it was removed. I've looked at edits back to the start of the year without finding the removal of a chart. Maproom (talk) 07:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

When are 4 reverts in a few hours/minutes OK?

I do not seem to understand the 3RR guideline, though I've always been very careful (foolishly?) never to break it. Are 4 reverts in one day OK because the content issue is arguable, and/or a disagreement has subsequently been settled? The question arose here and I'm sincerely confused. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 01:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I suggest that you read the 3RR guideline again, because it is unambiguous. It is never all right to break it, in particular if the content issue is arguable. Arguable content issues are precisely what lead to edit warring. The 3RR rule imposes an absolute bound on reverting. With the sole exception of reverting vandalism, violating the 3RR rule is essentially a formula for being blocked. An arguable content dispute is not an excuse for breaking 3RR. In fact, arguable content disputes are why there is 3RR. You were not foolish to never break it, but I suggest that you read it again to be sure that you understand that it is absolute with the occasional exception of reverting vandalism. Even with vandalism, it is often better to let someone else do the remaining reverts, because someone else is probably also watching the same page. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it is valid to continue past 3 reverts as long as a few things apply:

• You are not under any restriction that prevents it,
• It is a clear BLP policy violation or unequivocal vandalism
• You attempt to warn the user about how what they are doing is wrong.

After they continue reverting after a warning, it is best if you report them to the edit warring noticeboard so someone else can talk to them. Other than the BLP and vandalism exceptions, it is never okay to go over 3RR. If you accidentally go over 3 in a short timeframe, undo your latest revert with a summary of "undoing - I went over 3RR, sorry. Will discuss" or something similar. Charmlet (talk) 03:31, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

In this instance, the BLP policy was being violated by a user who kept adding unsourced and dubious claim to an article concerning living people. At one point, the user even tried to attribute the claim to a source, despite it being obvious that the source did not cover the claim. Should grossly insulting personal attacks even be mentioned? Surtsicna (talk) 06:14, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

What is or isn't appropriate to include in a Wikipedia article is a matter of editorial judgment. If, for example, the New York Times reported on the personal attacks, then almost certainly something should go into the article, possibly even the exact words spoken by individuals, if that was necessary to understand the story. In such a (hypothetical) case, it would be better to modify any inappropriate text inserted into the article while keeping the citation/source, rather than just delete everything. (On the other hand, any kind of negative information that has no reliable source is a BLP policy violation, as pointed out above, and should be deleted on sight. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:07, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I was actually referring to personal attacks on other users on the talk page. Anyway, I am glad that this has all sorted out. Surtsicna (talk) 09:25, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

June 12

Citations and Reliable Sources

No matter how many citations I include I keep getting the following errors. What can/should I do to make them go away?

This section of a biography of a living person does not include any references or sources. Please help by adding reliable sources.

This article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations.

This isn't an error it is a tag added by another editor to the very top of the document. You can find it at the top of the page when editing it will be surrounded by curly brackets as it is transcluded. If you give me the article name I can remove it for you. Falkirks^Talk 04:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey J3l7l. Good job in adding citations and expanding an article that was sorely lacking. I've removed the templates Falkirks referred you to (which were rather overrused, being sprinkled throughout).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:35, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Need help understanding a specific SPI case

I've been trying to find WP guideline regarding whether two family members of same household are permitted or not to each register their own username and be independent WP editors (perhaps from the same computer). (I assume that is permitted but cannot find specific guideline explaining so. And assuming it is permitted, then that scenario would not be a basis for an SPI investigation to "confirm" one the sockpuppet of the other, especially where there is no vote-stacking or other abuse evident.) Specifically I'm concerned about the findings and sanctions related to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DanielTom and the justifications for them. I'm not sure where to get help or answers, the Admin putting on the sockpuppets Tag has not been helpful at all answering simple and clear questions to help me understand what is fact in this case. I do not have experience or grasp of the SPI area so need some help. I've asked for help also at the WP:Sockpuppets Talk page. Where should I be getting help on this?) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 02:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Having multiple family members independently edit Wikipedia is certainly permitted, but the keyword here is independently. Digotome's very first edit was a personal attack at WP:AN which showed that he knew his way around Wikipedia, not quite what you'd expect from a genuinely new editor. Daniel Tomé was indeed renamed DanielTom, but he recreated the account (possibly by accident if I assume lots of good faith), and both of those accounts contributed in the same AN discussion. Since DanielTom was indef-blocked for issues not relating to sockpuppetry, Daniel Tomé becomes an alternate account of an indef-blocked user and thus should also be indef-blocked. Whether Digotome is indeed DanielTom or not doesn't really matter since he was indef-blocked on his own, not as a sockpuppet. Huon (talk) 05:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Just to be clear: a useraccount is intended for a single person; if (for example) eight people in a household edit Wikipedia (whether or not from the same computer is irrelevant), there should be eight separate accounts. On the flip side, the expectation is that any given person will normally only have a single account. The only exceptions are those listed at WP:SOCK#Legitimate_uses, and for many of those exceptions, disclosure is expected. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

John, I think that's been understood by everyone involved in this matter already. Ok, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 02:16, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

@ Huon, you aren't an Admin (I asked for an Admin's help on this concern), but I'll respond anyway ... It's my understanding the post at AN by User:Digotome was not his first edit, that the username was created in late 2009, and an article BLP on a Portuguese professor was created by that user on the Portuguese WP. (I saw this in User:Digotome edit history yesterday, now for some reason that I don't understand, I'm not seeing it, and don't know why it suddently wouldn't be available for viewing again.) User:Digotome is not "a genuinely new editor" as you state. Regarding User:Daniel Tomé posting after DanielTom's request to change from that username to User:DanielTom, Admin Toddst1 made the same observation just today at the sockpuppet investigation page -- see my reply about it here. You state "Daniel Tomé becomes an alternate account of an indef-blocked user and thus should also be indef-blocked" -- Daniel agrees with that -- it should be indef-blocked, stopped, removed, or whatever [it was Daniel's clear intent and request to discontinue using the username). But "sockpuppetry" is not the reason by either spirit or letter. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 02:14, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually, Huon is totally, unconditionally wrong. He is confusing an "indefinite block" of an account with a ban. An indefinite block only means that the certain account is prohibited from editing Wikipedia, not the person behind the account. A ban is when a particular person is totally prohibited from editing Wikipedia, under any account, any IP, or any means whatsoever. And a person can only be banned after a community discussion, with proper notice given, etc., (or by Arbcom ruling or by Jimmy Wales personally. How many of you when only Jimmy Wales himself could ban a user? I think up until 2005, only Wales or ArbCom could ban people from Wikipedia.) Having it any other way would literally allow admins to unilaterally ban people. To sum this up, Huon is wrong. Unless Daniel Tom is banned and not just indef-blocked, his alternate accounts, if he has any, cannot be indef-blocked just because they are operated by the same person as "Daniel Tom." The admins are going to have to find an independent reason to block them. Everyone understand? Now, let's salsa! Super Snooper77 (talk) 23:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Two Questions

Hello,

Why is my username in red, instead of blue, if I have a talk page?

If someone corrects something I wrote in an article and makes a comment in the edit box, is it possible to respond directly to that person?

Thanks in advance, Treplag (talk) 06:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)Treplag

To answer both questions: 1) You have two parts to your user space: Your User: page, which you have not yet created, and your User talk: page. The User: page is a place to describe yourself, if you so choose, while the User talk: page is a place for others to contact you. The reason your username is redlinked is that you have not yet created your User: page. See Wikipedia:User pages. 2) If you wish to contact another user, leave a new message on their User talk: page. Does that all help? --Jayron32 06:25, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

and if you're looking at the history of the page, that person's signature should always contain a link to their user talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 15:13, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that the entry in the page history is dependent on the signature, Colin. But you are right that the history should always link to the user's talk page; it will also link to the user page for a registered user or the contribution record for an IP editor. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Where can I propose a modification in Wikipedia policy regarding: should a footnote be concise

Further to my question should a footnote be concise , Where can I propose that it will be preferred to move the quotation from "in line" to the footnote, provided the article is large? the reasons are:

• For a big article, with a Readability issues it is better to keep the "readable prose" as concise as possible, thus it would be better to move the quotation to the footnote.
• If the article concise text is not sufficiently detailed, one can read more in in the footnote. Ykantor (talk) 06:37, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

If by "citation" you mean "quotation", then yes, that's possible, but it won't really reduce article length. Citation templates such as {{cite book}} have a "quote=" parameter that can be used. If you refer to quotes such as these, though, I'd say they're off-topic and don't belong. Huon (talk) 07:13, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt reply.

• Concerning "it won't really reduce article length": because of readability issues it is important to reduce the "readable prose" size, which is the aim here.
• Why "quotes such as these, though, I'd say they're off-topic and don't belong." ? It is a proof for mentioning those arms in the text.
• Perhaps my headline is not accurate (I have modified it). Actually I would like to know were can I propose it? Ykantor (talk) 09:45, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

• See Help:Footnotes about format and concise explanatory notes: Your ideas about concise footnotes are already documented at "Help:Footnotes#Explanatory notes" which mentions the need to avoid the clutter in the upper text of an article page. So putting a weapons quotation inside a footnote is a good idea, to avoid excessive details above. Thanks for working on that. -Wikid77 (talk) 11:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. It is exactly what I asked for. It seems stupid that I did not find it before posting. BTW I enjoyed reading the hints in your user page. Ykantor (talk) 18:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Question about photos

Hello!I need your help! Our School of Business has different photos of our students and their lectors. All of the photos were made by ourselves. For instance, students with their diplomas, lectors with students and so on. Look, please http://www.sbmt.bsu.by/ibmt.html?cp=6&gl=10&ga=108&gp=1687 So, tell me please, may I post them in Wikipedia? (I ask you about this question, because in Russian Wikipedia there are a lot of bans). Thank you in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbmt (talk • contribs) 14:45, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Please see the process for donating copyrighted material. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:48, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Please also read WP:NOTGALLERY. Wikipedia is not a filing service for hundreds of photographs - they should relate directly to a specific article, not just the entire "Class of 2012" etc. Arjayay (talk) 11:59, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Avoiding edit-conflicts on Help

This is just FYI. Even when users add topics by "section=new" then editing the bottom 2 topics might still get edit-conflict. To avoid edit-conflict, run a Show-changes and if a new "==Header==" appears below the bottom section, then copy/paste the intended response because an edit-conflict is almost guaranteed after a new bottom "==Topic==" has been added. -Wikid77 (talk) 11:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Isn't there a way the techies can make a "section=new" edit not create an edit-conflict? As it is, by definition, a new section, it can't conflict with any edits to any existing sections. - Arjayay (talk) 12:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Developers have known problem 7 years but no fixes yet. -Wikid77 20:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I thought that as well but it still generates conflicts. Falkirks^Talk 13:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

If you post at WP:VPT, someone there might have an idea on how to prevent such edit conflicts. I do suspect that the advice there would be to file a bug report, or to comment at an existing bug report on how irritating this is and how desirable it would be to get it fixed. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:42, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

(Belatedly) Or maybe this problem goes away when Flow is implemented, assuming that is used for any page where "New section" is an option? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

• Again, redo edit if Show-changes has new bottom "==Topic==": There is no planned fix for edit-conflicts this month. When editing on the bottom topic of a page, to avoid edit-conflict, run a Show-changes and if a new "==Header==" section appears at bottom, then copy/paste the intended response, and re-edit the section to redo the reply (within 2 minutes often ok). If no new "==Topic==" at bottom (or nearby reply), then edit-save is likely to succeed. Edit-conflicts are caused by an old MediaWiki tool called "GNU diff3" (written in 1988) which never intended to allow adjacent replies near the same lines, and it will take months to discuss and replace diff3. -Wikid77 20:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

ASSISTANCE

Dear authority of the salvation army,

Good afternoon to all that are concerned, I am a minister of the gospel, I am so glad to see the love of God in the salvation army church and I thank GOD for the life of the founder father booth and his wife. Without speaking so long, I am writting for an assistance for prayer request to enable me to become stronger and be able to move and spread the good news of God world wide. I am having the desires to ans the calling of God in my life, though I am working for God kingdom I need the church support in prayer so that I will move supper naturally to overcome and share the good news properly. I will be glad to read from you. regards,

Minister Samuel egah Ehiziyen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.194.119.225 (talk) 12:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Rojomoke (talk) 12:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Nato license question

NATO have the following "license" which allows use of their images. What would the corresponding license be on WP? Gbawden (talk) 13:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

link here http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/68162.htm Gbawden (talk) 13:16, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I am not a licensing expert but I say as it would as long as the image description points to NATO. You probably would need to specify the image as copyrighted but fair use to be safe. Falkirks^Talk 13:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

That's not a free enough license for Wikipedia: "No material produced by NATO is to be sold, used for outside advertising or promotional purposes of any kind". You will have to rely on "fair use". -- John of Reading (talk) 14:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:NFC describes situations in which "fair use" images are allowed on the English-language Wikipedia. In a nutshell: it's pretty restrictive. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

New Zealand High Commissioner to Canada

The NZ High Commissioner to Canada has changed in February 2013. His name is Simon Tucker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.35.35.40 (talk) 13:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I've updated List of High Commissioners of New Zealand to Canada, including a cite to a reliable source. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Running modules for the "Syntaxhighlight" tag

Shouldn't there be a development of programming languages for the <syntaxhighlight> tag? This should give article readers (and editors) a sense of what a programming language is like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.145.131.250 (talk) 13:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

By the way, what goes in the lang="" function? 71.145.131.250 (talk) 15:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I confess I haven't understood your first comment. However, the list of supported languages is here. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Sending photos or editing portions of an article to my e-mail

How do I send articles to my e- mail. I've attempted to do so and when I try to open it wikipedia doesn't recognize the action? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.196.1.173 (talk) 14:07, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand the question. If you want to send the URL of an article or image via e-mail, just copy and paste the URL from the address bar of your browser into your e-mail. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:53, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Or just save the articles you want to your browser's bookmarks/favorites. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 14:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Also see: Wikipedia:Sharebox (only available to registered users).--ukexpat (talk) 15:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Destroyed article

Hello, when i saw the article British Honduras i was quite shocked, because Special:Contributions/190.197.108.30 has destroyed the infobox and a lot of other things also in other articles, but i don't know how to revert it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.230.185.90 (talk) 14:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed Restored to before 190~ damaged it. Dru of Id (talk) 14:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

That's embarrassing; I would have thought that recent changes patrolling would have caught such a large (and damaging) addition to the article. In any case, I've also posted a warning on the IP talk page. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Showing what a template looks like without triggering categorizing

I want to display Template:School block as an example in a policy discussion, but I do not want to place the page where I display it into Category:Shared IP addresses from educational institutions. Is there a way to do this? --Guy Macon (talk) 14:15, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

If you subst: it, you can remove the cat manually on the page. Mdann52 (talk) 14:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

It only adds the category for pages in the User and User talk namespaces. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:13, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Colour Photograph?

Where can I find a colour photograph of this: File:Fotothek df roe-neg 0001382 004 Ehrenwache und Kranzniederlegung vor Dimitroff-Bildnis.jpg ?

Thank you Wikipedians !! Aqinjïîlā (talk) 16:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

In view of the age of the photograph there probably isn't a colour version. The only way to know for sure is to ask the Deutsche Fotothek.--ukexpat (talk) 16:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

What if I buy some colour pencils and try recreate the photo with an amateur sketch ? Would you accept that ? Aqinjïîlā (talk) 16:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Obvious troll is obvious and is obviously blocked.--ukexpat (talk) 18:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Add a nice link within protected Article "Beer"

Hi! Just dont find the "edit" button on the "beer" article - i would like to add this link to the "see also" chapter:

• List of beer production by region / by country http://www.kirinholdings.co.jp/english/news/2012/0808_01.html#table2

Thanks&BR PEter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.46.209.2 (talk) 16:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but the "See also" section in Wikipedia articles is limited to links to other Wikipedia articles.

However, the information at the url you provided does look very useful. In general, in such cases, the best thing to do is to post at the related article talk page, suggesting that an interested editor use the information (at the link) to improve the article. I've done that for you, at Talk:Beer, since this clearly seems something I don't want to see lost. (I also note that we're all volunteers here, so there is no guarantee that there will be an interested editor who will actually act on the suggestion.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:16, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

inserting my infomation on Wikipedia

I like my information be inserted on wikipedia.

I shall be grateful if you could furnish me with requirements in this regard.

Kind regards

Jacob tuse malgas 16:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.186.16.237 (talk)

Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is strongly discouraged, unless your writing has been approved by other editors in the community. Editing a biography about yourself should only be done in clear-cut cases. Avoiding such editing keeps Wikipedia neutral and helps avoid pushing a particular point of view. Writing autobiographies is discouraged because it is difficult to write a neutral, verifiable autobiography, and there are many pitfalls. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:38, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Notability (persons). To merit an article, a person would have to be shown to meet our notability criteria, according to third-party published sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:51, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Adding to Wikipedia

Hi

Could you let me know about putting myself and company forward to be added.

This is my name : nicolas tye and my company : <redacted>

Look forward to hearing from you

Nicolas Tye

81.155.36.29 (talk) 17:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

See question and answer above this one, plus WP:PROMOTION. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

How do you get a business to show on a page.

Bold text My business is located in Emlenton, PA. When you do a search under the Emlenton, PA page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Emlenton-Pennsylvania/109277729097894?fref=ts under facebook. <redacted repeated mention of subject's business name> Very frustrating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.239.32.199 (talk) 18:16, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. We have nothing to do with Facebook and nothing to do with what they display on their pages. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:47, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

You can try the -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

What is the formula (if any exists) to determine the difference between two columns of data, i.e. difference between date a politician is elected and when he/she left office?

Sorry for the post, just figured out how to determine ranges!

RESOLVED

Where Can I Find Detailed Documentation for the <ref>. . .</ref> tag

I am having a hard time finding sufficient documentation for the <ref>. . .</ref> tag that is used in Wikipedia. Trying to deduce what <ref name="test">[http://www.example.org Link text], additional text.</ref> will produce (can produce), particularly applying the "additional text" component, is obscure to me. Currently I am looking at previous articles and sort of deducing what is needed and what can be done. Could you tell me where I could find a more complete documentation for creating a reference tag? Osomite (talk) 18:59, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Does WP:NAMEDREFS or Help:Referencing help?--ukexpat (talk) 19:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Suspected block evasion—what to do?

If you suspect an IP user of evading a block (based on edit history), what is the best course of action? Should I just go straight to WP:ANI with an accusation that is possibly not true? Or should I leave it for someone else to determine? Thanks. —Frungi (talk) 20:20, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

My guess would be just deal with them like any vandal, issuing warnings as necessary, instead of assuming extreme bad faith. In an extreme situation you could always contact a CheckUser as they can see users who changed their IP but didn't delete cookies. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Regards, — Ginsuloft (talk) 20:49, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

The IP in question put a message on my talk page. Looked and sounded like a WP:DUCK to me. –Fredddie™ 22:41, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Deleting BLP articles

Trevis Smith (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have an inquiry about what would be the quickest way possible to delete a a wikipedia that is a BLP. The page in question is that of Trevis Smith. In looking at some of the pages regarding the deletion process, I have found one place that says, "Discussions concerning biographical articles of relatively unknown, non-public figures, where the subject has requested deletion and there is no rough consensus, may be closed as delete." I would like to know what actions Mr. Smith needs to take to make this deletion happen. Thank your in advance for your help and prompt reply. If there is any other information that you need. Please email me. 72.12.1.218 (talk) 20:33, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

• Deletion unlikely for players of major-league sports: Unfortunately, the trend has been to deny deletion of articles about athletes who were members of major sports associations. See wp:AfD for the process to request deletion, but again, it is extremely unlikely that the deletion will be approved. Instead, it might be possible to add some positive information to a person's article, as written in wp:RS reliable sources, to offset the negative text. -Wikid77 (talk) 20:53, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Hello there 72~! I do tend to agree with the other response, in that may be closed as delete does not mean that it will be closed as delete. Also, no rough consensus means that there's no consensus for keeping it. If there's an overwhelming consensus to keep, it won't be deleted no matter what he asks (sadly). In my opinion, and I don't speak for all of Wikipedia, he is potentially notable enough to keep the article. However, I would be neutral at the time. If you'd like to help him send it to WP:AFD, just ask me and I can help you do such. If you have him make a statement here via an account that is registered, I can copy it to an AfD and start it for you. Please remember that he can't just "make [it] happen", it's going to be the consensus of editors. Sorry for the troubles! Charmlet (talk) 21:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
    • You might try posting a request at WP:BLPN before you go through the standard deletion process (WP:AFD). That could give you two chances to have the article removed (though both are not very likely). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Creating notes

In the first paragraph of Rafael Nadal, there was an error made when trying to create footnotes for two sets of sources. See cites [12] and [19] in the lead, which should actually be notes [a] and [b] because each one has a long set of sources. If you hover on [12] and [19], you'll see that they each link to the References section, instead being [a] and [b] and linking to the Notes section. ([12] links to references 4-11, and [19] links to references 13-18.) An editor tried fixing this, but it looks like the code at the end of each set of cites wasn't done correctly, so it got messed up. Before he tried doing that, all of the individual cites just displayed in the paragraph. Also, the set of sources in the next sentence, cites 20 through 24, is a third set of many sources, so it should be note [c]. I'm not sure what the rules are as to the maximum number of cites that can be displayed in one sentence before a note should be used instead, but those three sets of cites have 8, 6 and 5 sources, respectively, all which are necessary to verify the significant content to which they apply. Can someone please fix these three sets of cites so that they show as notes a, b, and c? Thank you. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 21:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I don’t know if we have the ability to use letters for footnotes, but I did find WP:BUNDLING, which looks like it’s what you’re looking for. Hope that helps. —Frungi (talk) 22:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Frungi. First, I can't make any edits because the article is protected. Second, yes there are letters (a, b, c, d, etc.)... that's how Notes can work if that's the format chosen; see the "Notes" section in the article. As another example, see the end of the first sentence of the first paragraph of Roger Federer, which is an article very similar to the Nadal article; hover on "[a]" for a few seconds and you'll see all the cites, and then click on [a]. It'll take you to the Notes section. ;) For more info, see this section of the Footnotes how-to guide; you'll see a group name on the chart called "lower-alpha"; that's what the Nadal and Federer articles use. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 22:10, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Anyway, I just need a registered editor to please fix the coding because the article's protected. Thanks! --76.189.109.155 (talk) 22:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Now being discussed at Talk:Rafael Nadal#The Lead. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:45, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

No, John. That discussion, which I'm involved in, is about an unrelated matter; about the size of the lead. My request here is only about fixing the footnotes for two sentences (that happen to be in the lead). I'm surprised that no one has fixed this error yet. It's just some basic footnote coding. Ugh. ;) --76.189.109.155 (talk) 22:53, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Fixed it, the #tag parserfunction was missing a "group" parameter. Yunshui 雲‍水 08:39, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Yunshui, you're the best! Thank you, my friend. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 16:13, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

You want {{efn}} and {{notelist}}. --  Gadget850 ^talk 19:53, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Gadget, thank you so much for improving on Yunshui's fix! I knew I'd eventually find some great editors to solve this problem. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 20:06, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Gaah, that's so much more graceful! Nice. Yunshui 雲‍水 22:22, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

How can one determine why a specific user has been blocked?

I am curious to know on what basis User:Winyviv was blocked. How can I find out? Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 21:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

See for example Special:Contributions/Winyviv, and click "block log" there to see all blocks (only one in this case). The block was made by a CheckUser. I'm not a CheckUser but Winyviv sounds like another sock of User:Technoquat who already has dozens of blocked socks. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I have done all you said already. What I am curious of is if there is any public reason given for the block at all. Not seeing some rationale seems odd. μηδείς (talk) 22:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

PrimeHunter already explained that. The block log clearly says, "checkuserblock-account". Checkusers are the ones who investigate socking. Winyviv is a sock of another account. It's as simple as that. In any case, why are you so interested in this? Why do you need so much detail? --76.189.109.155 (talk) 22:34, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

The block summary said {{checkuserblock-account}}. That refers to {{checkuserblock-account}}. I don't know how common it is to only mention it in the block summary and not post the template. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I really don't think the help desk is the place to discuss this any further. I have no idea why μηδείς is so interested in all of this, but he should contact a checkuser if he wants more information. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 22:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

@Medeis: More to the point, the person to ask would be User:DoRD, who did the block, and who is a checkuser. If you fail to get a answer that is satisfactory (to you), then you could ask further at WP:ANI, since you'd be concerned about an action taken by an administrator. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I was not the first to ask about this block. We have a problem with trolls at the ref desk (the user's sole edit and knowing whose sock he is can be helpful if the behavior continues. μηδείς (talk) 00:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Information on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pastries entry

The list says that Gibanica is a pastry from Balkans. Well this is wrong. It is from Croatia, and especially from north-west part of Croatia.

Thanks. Kristijan Krkac — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.141.75.158 (talk) 22:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Kristijan. Be WP:BOLD and feel free to fix it yourself. Just be sure you attach reliable sources to verify the information. Good luck. Or you can post a comment on the article's talk page, along with the sources. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 22:23, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

The list links to Gibanica. Don't contradict the information in the linked article. If you want a change then post your sources to Talk:Gibanica and make a suggestion. There are often multiple countries or regions who claim to be the inventer of a food. See Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars#Places and other things for some examples of food fights taken to Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:49, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Communitas Charter High school

Note: I am reposting what I've said as I posted it under the wrong date, whoops.

Hello everyone. User:Materialscientist undid my edit to the article Communitas Charter High School and I did fix the issue he cited by citing the school's website where I found the letter, however, it's likely they'll shut down the website as they'll have little use for it due to the fact the school's closing. I am trying to use Wayback Machine to find a "safe" source that would not be deleted, however it appears wayback's last check only captured the intro page and nothing else. Would anyone have any idea on how to bypass it? school link: http://www.communitascharter.org/ wayback link: web.archive.org/web/20130526162356/http://communitascharter.org/

In addition: I am finding third-party sources but being a former Wikipedian editor, I am familiar with some of the old rules but have forgotten the specific details of each one, my concern is whether any of the sources are independent? Also, I am confused over the rule for what I believe is WP:NPOV and WP:BIAS as I am a student here, in fact today is Communitas' last day. Am I technically not allowed to edit this article or do I only need to be more careful in avoiding bias? I'd work further on this article, but I am very busy today. I will check back later on here.

76.102.32.220 (talk) 14:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi 76.102.32.220. Good job in trying to use wayback, but the more significant problem is, as you alluded to, that the article has zero independent, reliable sources. I did some editing of the article to remove non-encylopedic content and promotional-type language. You can read my edit summaries and a note I left on your talk page. My concern is that as the article stands right now, it may not even survive if it were nominated for deletion because I'm not sure it passes the notability test for schools. Materialscientist was correct in removing that long letter about the school's closing that you pasted in. It's simply not enyclopedic. As I indicated on your talk page, all that's needed is a line that says the school was closed, and why, along with a reliable source. You'll see I left a sentence that says just that. In terms of any conflict of interest concerns, you can read WP:COI. You should be commended for acknowledging your concern in that regard and your obvious desire to do things the right way. Nice job. Have a great summer! --76.189.109.155 (talk) 01:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

June 13

Polish Americans

On the Polish American page in the military listing you've missed my grandfather. His name is Peter Kasprzyk moved from Poland and left school in 8th grade. He then joined the military and became an airplane engineer. He worked on fighter planes in WWII and train new engineers. Also was featured in TIME magazine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.242.120.61 (talk) 01:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

We have many pages about Polish Americans. After some searching I guess you refer to List of Polish Americans#Military. Such lists are intended for people with Wikipedia biographies. Every name in the list is blue, indicating a link to a biography. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:40, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

help to provide information to a Wikipedia page

Dear all,

Since I am not a regular provider of information to Wikipedia, I need a far more experienced individual to help me out.

I have made some amendments to the following article on the Great Dane dog:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Dane

Some member of your community has correctly highlighted the need to provide a source for the following statement:

quote Otto von Bismarck set up a commission, ”Kynologischer Verein Hektor”source whose purpose it was to invent a new origin of the hound away from Denmark, its enemy at the time. The result was a new word Deutsche Dogge. This is made public in 1878 and from 1880 it becomes illegal in the German Reich to refer to the dog as anything but ”Deutsche Dogge”. Literature after this date in German, and when translated to other languages such as English sought to perpetuate this new truth.Source

unquote

I do have the source for this piece of information but I do not know have to correctly reference it. Perhaps one of you know how to do this.

Source: Viggo Møller: Hunden og Hunderacerne (1887, chapter 11, Guard Dogs, The Large Danish Hound, pages 218-233, written in Danish) and Viggo Møller: Illustreret Tidende (13.2.1887, Large Danish Hounds, pages 244-246, written in Danish).

Best regards

Flemming Rickfors — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.21.228.232 (talk) 01:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Flemming.

Short answer: Edit window > Cite > Templates > Cite Book.

Long answer: When you are making a a change to an article, at the top of the edit window you'll see a variety of formatting features (Bold, Italic, signature, link, etc.) At the far right, you should see "Cite". Click that, pull down the Templates menu and select Cite Book. A window with a bunch of fields should pop open. This will make citing a breeze. There's also a button at the bottom of that window that will give you more fields to use, should you require them. Hope that helped! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:43, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Glitch at Streator, Illinois

Can someone who is good at these things figure out what is wrong with the locator map at Streator, Illinois. Thanks! --Jayron32 02:10, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

This has been fixed by another editor. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

How can I check the pageviews of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, which ends with a question mark. I can only see this page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:10, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

If you stick "%3F" on the end of the URL, you get to this page with the statistics you are looking for. But, yes, that's a bug in the "External tools" line of the history page. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:10, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

(More) Either I got confused, or someone fixed something. The link on the history page at Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? is working now. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes it works from the history page link, but not the input box for the pageview page. Can we request a fix somewhere?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:40, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Sugandha Kalamegham

Hi

I recently Created a Page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugandha_Kalamegam

There is a spelling mistake in the Heading. It should be Sugandha Kalamegham instead of Sugandha Kalamegam.

Kindly help.

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaviduu (talk • contribs) 04:30, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi

I recently Created a Page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugandha_Kalamegam

There is a spelling mistake in the Heading. It should be Sugandha Kalamegham instead of Sugandha Kalamegam.

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaviduu (talk • contribs) 04:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

• FYI, page moved by user:Falkirks 04:36, 13 June 2013‎ // FrankB 05:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Kindly help.

Can a mislabeled image be moved/renamed properly

Hi, had a brain fart (image mislabeled on my HDD) and uploaded the wrong image under the 'other title'. I've fixed the description, here, but the title is all wrong. The second image hasn't yet left my HDD.

• If the page can be moved, I can upload the proper image to that page... assuming the system software allows overwriting such a theoretically created auto-redirect. I can also tag for speedy delete, Suggestions? Assistance?
• Can also use a .css savvy contact for questions on setting things up properly on another wiki. Prefer email for that.

Thanks! // FrankB 05:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

If I understand you correctly, you've uploaded File A but called it "File B", when you have a File B you want to use as well. So, option 1 (easiest): upload File A again as "File A" this time and upload File B as a new version of "File B". Option 2: tag "File B" with {{rename media}} (and give the file name you want for the renamed file), and an admin or filemover can move the file for you, allowing you to upload File B as "File B". Option 1 is something you can do yourself and so avoids delay waiting for others. Bencherlite^Talk 09:53, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

• Okay thanks very much, at least unless there's a block on reloading the image which happened the other day to me on Wikimedia Commons. I was tempted to try that but thought I'd ask about the move option, it's been a while since I did images here. (I can do without the Wizards! LOL) I'd missed a crop-able defect in that one. Not sure yet whether that is a steady state. I'm juggling related work in four wikis at once. Appreciate the time Bencherlite! Best regards // FrankB 18:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Information re kim gyngell

I have made an edit to the information regarding kim gyngell who is known to me. He was not christened Kimberly. He is not kym. He is christened kim gyngell. He lives with his partner melinda butel and their two boys sol and Leo in melbourne and has done so since 2009. Other minor edits were regarding work. Needham2 (talk) 06:16, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for this website

I don't have any complaint about your website.... I just want to thank the founder of this site who established such an excellent site for educational purpose.. this website(wikipedia) is outstanding and keep it up......... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.66.121.132 (talk) 07:30, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - much appreciated :) Mdann52 (talk) 12:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Improper Edits of Abhishek Banerjee Article

This article has not been edited as per Wikipedia Terms and Conditions. The following lines seems like a personal attack:

"By virtue of being the nephew of Mamata Banerjee, present chief minister of West Bengal he is also the National President of 'All India Trinamool Yuva'"

"The opulent wedding of Abhishek to Jasmeet Ahuja in February 2012 made it an embarrassment for Mamata as she is known for her austerity"

This type of edits should not be encouraged. Also another line in this article says:

"Leaps and Bounds is a company that claims to be in Bottled Water, Consultancy, Real Estate, Micro Finance and Insurance"

This line is also improperly written. You cannot write "CLAIMS TO BE" for a company. Leaps and Bounds is a company headed by Abhishek Banerjee and they deal with all the services mentioned above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asanirban (talk • contribs) 07:33, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I have fixed these problems. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 08:02, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia Usage

Hi,

I am Tae Jun (T.J.), Cha from South Korea, currently attempting to upload an article about an organization that I am working for. Unfortunately, I have been experiencing too much difficulty in uploading a single article about the brief history and objectives concerning my organization. I have tried several times in uploading it but have been declined all the time. Since there is no one specific to contact to get info on how I should go about this situation within Wikipedia, I am quite lost. If there is anyone who is willing to help me, your help with be utmost respected and sought for. Also, it seems that the main reasons for the decline is that although I get a "COI" approval, I keep receiving "copyvio" or copyright violation, but I am unable to understand why my organization cannot upload what our organization wrote, describing ourselves to the public, on the wikipedia pages. Please, your help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you and good day.

Sincerely, Tae Jun (T. J.), Cha K-Developedia www.kdevelopedia.org Korea Development Institute School of Public Policy and Management KDIS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.253.42.253 (talk) 07:39, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Your first article. It would also help if you registered an account here. From what you say, you have been trying to upload text whose copyright is owned by your company. Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text unless the company releases the copyright. This is a very important rule, as Wikipedia does not wish to break the law, and any copyrighted text that is placed here is likely to be deleted immediately. Maproom (talk) 08:33, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

It is possible to donate copyrighted materials, but it's not a simple process and you will have to give away control over your content that you may prefer to retain. Much better just to write the information again for Wikipedia, in your own words. Text produced by an organisation's PR staff is quite likely to be unsuitable for a Wikipedia article anyway, because the language in which an organisation describes itself to the public may not be appropriate for an impartial encyclopaedia. You appear to be saying that reviewers have judged your work free from concerns about conflict of interest and this is good, considering that you work for the organisation. Users are not forbidden from writing about subjects with which they are closely associated, but the practice is discouraged because it is very hard to maintain the necessary neutral point of view. - Karenjc 16:45, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

help pleas

hello thank you very much about advice really i wish to be wikipidean

i saw article at wiki and i want write new article with same design but not same content

that is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupon

i admire with that design but i do not know how i can do it

so could you help me and say to me

what is the wring way that i shouldn't do it

at writre article

and how add no follow external link

thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firas Alameh (talk • contribs) 08:34, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Try reading Your first article and Conflict Of Interest. Then you should be ready to create an article or request someone else create it for you at Requested articles. Good luck! ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 10:23, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Meetups

Hello again... After being invited to a meeting in San Francisco, I decided to see if there were any closer gatherings, and I wound up at a page called Wikipedia:Meetup/Toronto. At the top is a link to a web site http://TorontoWikiTuesdays.com which seems to consist of just advertisements. Should something be done about this? Is this the place to report it? —Anne Delong (talk) 09:25, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I've removed the link. The rule of thumb is: Be Bold. Rojomoke (talk) 10:21, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

How to cite diffs in sockpuppet investigations

With reference to this discussion, the admins have asked about citing diffs as evidence. How do I go about doing that? Thanks. Regstuff (talk) 10:01, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Help:Diffs? Mdann52 (talk) 10:08, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Basically go to the history page, click the edit before the one you want to indicate, and the one you want to indicate, hit "compare selected revisions" at the top, copy the web address at the very top of the page, and paste the web address around a pair of brackets [ ] CTF83! 10:43, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Update entry

Hello. I work for the Financial Ombudsman Service. Because of the obvious conflict of interest and for ethical reasons, I am not comfortable editing this page. However, we have recently released our annual review 2012/2013 – http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/publications/ar13/index.html – and now would be a good time to update this entry. We’d be grateful if someone would take the time to have a look. We'd also really appreciate any suggestions on how we can update the page in the future or correct some of the errors on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanemckenna7 (talk • contribs) 10:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

First off, thank you for avoiding conflict of interest editing. That is more than can be said for many editors, myself included.
If you are dealing with correcting numbers, or straight typos or other reasonable errors, very few editors will have a problem with it. What is the article concerned?--Launchballer 11:36, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. The entry I’m talking about is the Financial Ombudsman Service (UK): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Ombudsman_Service We would like some of the figures and information to be updated, and some small errors to be corrected. Above, I linked to our latest annual publication – which would go a long way to sorting things out. Your help is much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shanemckenna7 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Per WP:BAND #2,

"a musician or ensemble may be notable if it has had a single or album on any country's national music chart". Does this include the Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart?--Launchballer 11:38, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I would say no, because that chart consists of items which by definition are not topping the regular charts. WP:UPANDCOMING sort of applies here. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Sending information to myself

How do I send an information page that I am reading to my e-mail address? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rswiatlowski (talk • contribs) 13:58, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Copy the URL of the article from the address bar of your browser; then send an e-mail to whereever you want and paste that URL into your e-mail. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:50, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Kinesiotherapy Page

I created a Kinesiotherapy page back in 2006 and it has now been removed and redirected to another professions page. How do I get the page reinstated and back for access?

Thank you very much for your help. Melissa Ziegler, MA, RKT Executive Director, American Kinesiotherapy Association 118 College Drive #5142 Hattiesburg, MS 39406 http://www.akta.org

The Kinesiotherapy article before the merge with Physiotherapy was in a very poor condition, so the best option would probably be to start over with new content. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

error with an article about PARIS SAINT GERMAIN section ( under 19)

There were false statement in that article at the section ( u 19) I have tried to fix it but it would not be. I do not know why. Please regard that.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain_F.C._Reserves_and_Academy#Under-19 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain_F.C._Reserves_and_Academy#Under-19 68.226.21.93 (talk) 14:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

You had deleted some of the templates for the table, and you did not replace the content which the vandal last month had replaced by the false entries. Hopefully it is OK now. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Template:Multiple image not working in many browsers (but not all) in zoom mode

Template:Multiple image is not properly aligning images in Internet Explorer when I zoom in my browser.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:44, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Also Firefox, Safari and Chrome. Not a problem in Opera or Netscape Navigator.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

My test page was Glenn Robinson III and I used ctrl+[-] to zoom in.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Might be better placed on the Talk page of that template? See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Multiple_image --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 16:01, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

O.K.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:12, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Album art

My problem is simple - I want to upload an album cover art, but I don't know where to get the picture. Phazd (talk) 16:21, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Have you tried a search ? Google, Bing or your favorite search engine. Mlpearc (powwow) 16:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

P.S. once you have found the cover you can request that it be uploaded for you at Files for upload. Mlpearc (powwow) 16:26, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Actually, I thought I should scan the copy that I own or something like that. Again, thank you. Phazd (talk) 16:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Beware that album covers are copyright, and you can only use one under a claim of fair-use, which requires it to be low resolution, with at least one side <300 pixels. Furthermore, the Infobox album template requires an image >200 Px wide, so you need an image about 250 x 250 Px. I doubt your scanner runs that coarsely - whereas Amazon and similar websites usually have an image of about this size readily available. Arjayay (talk) 16:48, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Helpful guidelines and examples for fair use, including copyright album covers, are at WP:NFCI (acceptable fair use) and WP:NFC#UUI (unacceptable fair use). - Karenjc 16:52, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

English Defence League

English Defence League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

On the Wikipedia page 'English Defence League' there is a video of damage being caused to a restaurant in Leicester. The video claims that the damage is caused by an EDL 'supporter'. I feel this video is not a representation of the EDL. I am a supporter of the Labour party, but if I were to cause criminal damage, this would not be a representation of the Labour Party, these are my actions.

Anybody can be a supporter of anything whether they are wanted by the group or not.

This article could cause bias to certain people because a 'supporter' (in no way proven to be a part of the EDL), caused criminal damage, for this reason I would like the video removed.

Or at least stating that the person who caused the damage is in no way connected to the said EDL, unless it is proven otherwise.

Many Thanks

Jon Jackson

78.147.118.222 (talk) 17:43, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

The source says the damage was caused during an EDL demonstration by a supporter who was involved in it. The place to discuss this is Talk:English Defence League. - Karenjc 20:46, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

How do i know if my article was uploaded.?

Hello. I just wrote an article and was wondering how will i know qhen it is uploaded. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deborah Rotter (talk • contribs) 17:58, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Your user talk page tells you that the draft was not accepted, & gives a link back to your AFC page where the explanation is given (with links to useful further reading). - David Biddulph (talk) 19:38, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

incomplete wikipedia page

To Whom it May Concern: Hi, my name is Lulu Fall and I was approched by a Wiki page builder, Jay (email@sharkim.com) via my website on January 28th 2013. As an artist, and after extensively emailing back and forth, I decided to pay the $650 to get a Wikipedia page. We've corresponded back and forth since January and he finally showed me a preview of what my page would look like. Long story short, I've been emailing him at the above address every week for the last 4 months and I've been getting the runaround. I emailed him yesterday and the email was returned back to me (the email address apparently is no longer working). I'm not sure if this is the right source for this issue, but I NEED my money back, especially if my page is not even created. It is absurd for me to have been getting jerked around for months. Please email me back. Below is my order number and IP address: Order Number : 4918875176 Merchant Order ID : 43F2S

Shark IM ( http://www.sharkim.com )

Contents of your purchase :

Vendor Product ID : 15
Product Name : Wikipedia Page Creation
Quantity : 1

Total : 650.00 ( USD )

Billing Information

Lulu  Fall
IP: 75.93.226.156 wiki

69.201.156.211 (talk) 19:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Basically, and I'm very sorry to have to tell you this, but you've been scammed. Wikipedia does not charge people for articles, whomever this person was they have no affiliation with Wikipedia and there is unfortunately nothing we can do for you--Jac16888 ^Talk 19:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, we are not allowed to give legal advice, consult a qualified professional. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:33, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I think you have been scammed, you get a Wikipedia article by being notable, not by paying money. I don't know who to refer to, but try the founder's talk page. It mightn't work, but it's all I can think of. Bad luck you were scammed. Darrman (talk) 20:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

There is nothing at all that Jimbo, the WMF, or anyone other than a competent legal professional can do. Please don't answer unless your answer is actually helpful. — The Potato Hose 20:15, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

I second Potato Hose's comment and would like to explain a little further. Ms Fall, you are under the misapprehension that someone at Wikipedia has been writing an article about you for money. Jac16888 has clarified that Wikipedia (the free encyclopaedia) doesn't ever charge for articles. Anyone can edit Wikipedia, as you proved when you posted your question here. Wikipedia isn't a marketing tool or a business directory and removes promotional material on sight. This upsets the people who want to use it for promotion, which is why some entrepreneurs independently tout their "expert" services, offering to insert material into the encyclopaedia on their clients' behalf. The process is not well regarded here and such paid editors have no connection with the organisation itself. We have no idea who you have been dealing with or whether or not you have been the victim of fraud. We can't put you in touch with anyone regarding your transactions with this person, because those transactions had nothing to do with Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation. All we can do is offer our sympathy at your situation, and suggest you seek qualified advice, which as Roger says, we cannot provide in any form. Good luck. - Karenjc 20:34, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Help me with the images please

Hello! Please fix this images:

Add Thaiti for the Oceania Football Confederation please, with the zoom for the Thaiti map in color yellow (R, 255 G, 215, B, 0). Also put in gray, the Vatican City, San Marino, Campione d'Italia and Llívia.

Add the South Sudan Please. --WikiAnthony (talk) 20:52, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello WikiAnthony, You should post this request at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab. Cheers, Mlpearc (powwow) 22:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

How do I watch a section?

Instead of watching a whole article, is it possible to watch just a single section of an article? K.Bog 21:16, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Not at the moment, sorry. However, in the next few months, at least for threaded talk page discussion, you'll be given the ability to selectively watch sections using Flow. Theopolisme (talk) 21:27, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

You can also try the mobile version of the website. You can expand or collapse each section of a page. Have fun! --NaBUru38 (talk) 22:18, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Download a page in ODT format

Here I asked about adding a button to download a Wikipedia page in ODT format. I was answered that "the programmers here have enough on their plate without being asked to implement things that only a very few users want". Now, I tried to download a custom book, and I saw that adding "writer=odf" to the "Download as PDF" link works. Can you add that link to the side bar? Thanks! --NaBUru38 (talk) 22:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)