Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring

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This page is for reporting active edit warriors and recent violations of restrictions like the three-revert rule. See this guide for instructions on creating diffs for this report. If you see that a user may be about to violate the three-revert rule, consider warning them by placing {{subst:uw-3rr}} on their user talk page. You must notify any user you have reported. You may use {{subst:An3-notice}} ~~~~ to do so. You can subscribe to a web feed of this page in either RSS or Atom format. Additional notes When reporting a user here, your own behavior will also be scrutinized. Be sure you understand WP:REVERT and the definitions below first. The format and contents of a 3RR/1RR report are important, use the "Click here to create a new report" button below to have a report template with the necessary fields to work from. Possible alternatives to filing here are dispute resolution, or a request for page protection. Violations of other restrictions, like WP:1RR violations, may also be brought here. Your report should include two reverts that occurred within a 24-hour period, and a link to where the 1RR restriction was imposed. Definition of edit warring Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring. Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR) An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions. Sections older than 48 hours are archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.
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User:Bashirmsaad reported by User:Joseph2302 (Result: Blocked 24 hours)

Page

Faruk Malami Yabo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Bashirmsaad (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 22:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC) to 22:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 22:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 22:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
2. Consecutive edits made from 21:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC) to 22:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 21:57, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 22:09, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Achievements & Awards */"
   3. 22:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
3. Consecutive edits made from 18:39, 15 June 2015 (UTC) to 18:40, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 18:39, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 18:40, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
4. 14:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Achievements and awards */"
5. Consecutive edits made from 12:32, 15 June 2015 (UTC) to 14:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 12:32, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 12:36, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   3. 12:48, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   4. 13:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Business and Interest */"
   5. 13:22, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   6. 13:32, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   7. 13:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   8. 13:38, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Career History */"
   9. 13:40, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Career History */"
   10. 13:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Career History */"
   11. 13:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Career History */"
   12. 13:47, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   13. 13:54, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   14. 14:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Business and Interest */"
   15. 14:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 22:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "General note: Not adhering to neutral point of view on Faruk Malami Yabo. (TW)"
2. 22:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC) "/* June 2015 */ reply"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

@Pishcal: removed swathes of promotional, resume-style text from this article, but this user is continuing to readd it. I've warned them about WP:NPOV and Wikipedia is not for resumes, but they continued to revert despite a 3RR warning. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Note that the editor in question has not attempted to resolve the dispute in any form and has failed to communicate with anyone despite notices / warnings. Pishcal — ♣ 02:39, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

The warnings included subsequent text about why it was inappropriate, and I also gave them notice of 3RR- if they'd bothered to read it, then I wouldn't have reported them. Also, these additions are so ridiculously promotional that any decent editor can see why they're wrong- edit warring to spam a page is never acceptable. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:43, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I think Pishcal (t c) meant that the editor you reported, Bashirmsaad, has failed to communicate. —Darkwind (talk) 07:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 24 hours —Darkwind (talk) 08:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Joseph2302, I was referring to the user reported, not to you. Sorry about the confusion, I suppose "the editor in question" was a bit ambiguous. Pishcal — ♣ 12:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Factchecker atyourservice reported by User:Nomoskedasticity (Result: Page protected)

Page

When contact changes minds (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Factchecker atyourservice (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 11:27, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Popular press */ Restore necessary attribution, remove implication that piece was published on behalf of the mag, undo improper excessive emphasis of low quality sourcing"
2. 00:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667275377 by David Eppstein (talk) You removed all of the explanatory WSJ material as well, and you have no basis for giving the crappier source more weight"
3. 23:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC) "/* Popular press */ Trim Singal material; user knows there is neither a policy justification nor even a false consensus to skew the weight in this way"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 05:29, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "/* WSJ editorial is clearly entitled to far more weight than a single recent college grad with no experience and weak credentials */"

Comments:

Straight off a block for edit warring at this very article [1], Factchecker is right back at it, with three reverts in ~12 hours. It's not a 3RR violation -- but it is edit-warring per WP:EW, which says quite clearly that a violation can consist of fewer than 3 reverts. Again, it's the very same article where Factchecker's edit-warring led to a week-long block. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 11:40, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I reverted to a weight-neutral version while a discussion, which Nomoskedasticity has never bothered with, continues. Nomo, meanwhile, prefers drive-by reverts with no discussion nor even a stated justification. This is a simple attempt to avoid the losing end of a content dispute by removing another editor from it. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 11:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Nomo's latest participation at talk page (today): [2]. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 11:51, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Your entire participation over the entire dispute has been to say, on precisely two occasions and without any elaboration whatsoever, that you agree with David. That's what I was referring to as not participating. That also includes your pithy but eminently unhelpful edit summaries, including "yep, I saw [the noticeboard discussion] [but decided to ignore it completely and resume edit-warring]". Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 12:04, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• Page protected for 72 hours. Yes, this is still edit warring. Any purported motives for filing this report aside, I am not going to privilege one side in this content dispute by selectively blocking the editor who's done the most reverts, and I am also not going to block all of you. —Darkwind (talk) 21:32, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

User:2.126.189.105 reported by User:SpyMagician (Result: 31 hours)

Page: Personal shopping assistant (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 2.126.189.105 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [3]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [4]
2. [5]
3. [6]
4. [7]
5. [8]
6. [9]
7. [10]
8. [11]
9. [12]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [13]

Comments: Obvious abuse of system. Also check user’s talk page where they are constantly blanking warnings and such and replacing content with “fuck off”.

Blocked for 31 hours by Crazycomputers. TheTMOBGaming2 (talk) 18:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Robsinden reported by User:RexxS (Result: Page protected)

Page

Wikipedia:Red link (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Robsinden (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: this is the edit that removed the text on 29 April 2015

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Robsinden's first revert to re-add the text 14:24, 16 June 2015
2. Robsinden's second revert to re-add the text 09:12, 17 June 2015
3. Robsinden's third revert to re-add the text 09:16, 17 June 2015
4. Robsinden's fourth revert to re-add the text 14:00, 17 June 2015

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Robsinden warned by Softlavender after Robsinden's third revert

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: (Changes needed et seq)

Comments:

Within the space of 24 hours User:Robsinden has four times restored text that was originally deleted by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) and subsequently deleted by Montanabw (x2) and Softlavender. The page was then protected in the wrong version by Ritchie333 to stop the edit-war. Robsinden has edit-warred after a warning and against three other editors to force his preferred version into the page. No matter the rights and wrongs of the edit (currently debated at the Talk page), edit-warring is not the means by which editors should be conducting their disputes. This a clear breach of a bright line after a warning and any editor who shows such contempt for our normal behavioural expectations should be sanctioned to provide the solution. That would allow full protection to be lifted from an important guideline page and allow normal editing to resume. --RexxS (talk) 18:24, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• It's clearly not the wrong version. Text was removed without discussion, and in fact didn't make any sense, because there is a subsequent clause referring to navboxes thereafter. It's not just my preferred version, it's the version that has been stable for 5 years. Okay, I may have overstepped the reverting, but was feeling very frustrated yesterday by users who I felt were gaming the system for their own POV and then accusing me of writing guidelines to fit my view, when all I was trying to do was to keep the guideline at the status quo. Anyway, there is now a discussion in place, so hopefully we can all move on constructively. --Rob Sinden (talk) 07:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• Page protected —Darkwind (talk) 08:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:179.234.74.94 reported by User:Callmemirela (Result: Both blocked 24 hours)

Page

Portugal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

179.234.74.94 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 20:00, 16 June 2015 (UTC) ""
2. 20:19, 16 June 2015 (UTC) ""
3. Consecutive edits made from 21:28, 16 June 2015 (UTC) to 21:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 21:28, 16 June 2015 (UTC) ""
   2. 21:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC) ""
4. 21:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC) ""
5. 21:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 21:32, 16 June 2015 (UTC) "Warning: Disruptive editing on Portugal. (TW)"
2. 21:01, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Final warning notice on Portugal. (TW)"
3. 21:06, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Only warning: Vandalism on Portugal. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

The user has been edit warring disruptively by adding unsourced changes to the article and has even mounted to sockpuppetry with Moonnastic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Callmemirela (Talk) ♑ 21:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

• Both editors blocked – for a period of 24 hours. @Callmemirela: The edits you reverted did not fall into any of the exceptions to the three-revert rule, and you reverted on this article six times in just over 25 hours. —Darkwind (talk) 21:42, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I have unblocked Callmemirela for reasons stated on their talk page. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 07:07, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Markus W. Karner reported by User:Ogress (Result: Blocked)

Page

Rohingya people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Markus W. Karner (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 00:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "I checked the sources (only those which are online). Derek Tonkin, Jacques Leider are not Burmese!"
2. 14:21, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667352466 by 58.106.252.62 (talk) please stop this madness over the economist sensationalist article. I work there and I can tell you the allegations are nonsense"
3. 14:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667333507 by 58.106.252.62 (talk)"
4. 09:39, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667279882 by 58.106.230.133 (talk) this sensationalist view is not found in any other page. Please don't push the views to extreme"
5. 15:07, 16 June 2015 (UTC) "revert promotion of one source above others"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Markus_W._Karner&diff=prev&oldid=667353820 Warned by another user

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

• User was warned this morning and has continued to edit war. Ogress _smash! 00:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• Another user, User:User:Za-ari-masen registered an account at that page and their edits from IP+new account would also count as a 3RR/edit war issue, but I don't know how to report that kind of thing! Ogress _smash! 00:57, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• I have to add that I haven't added one single sentence to that article. This article has received one-sided edits from both sides and I am just reverting. The last revert has no association with previous reverts. I have worked there and understand that such unbalanced narratives inflame the problem. I am prepared to discuss on talk-page but these users will refuse to discuss and just push whatever they want with new accounts. Markus W. Karner (talk) 01:08, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• Markus W. Karner removes well sourced content using very strange excuses (e.g. that he is in Myanmar and hence somehow has more authority or grasp of facts on the ground than the well regarded authors that are cited. Also, his claim that he is "prepared to discuss on talk-page but these users will refuse to discuss" is a blatant lie. A quick check of his talk page shows that he repeatedly ignored requests to discuss or specifically explain the reasons for his bulk removal of content. I believe he should be blocked to prevent his continual mass content removal which he defends in a very personal, nonsensical manner.58.106.254.122 (talk) 07:46, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• Markus W. Karner, even a good-faith edit war is an edit war. Both of you are edit warring, which is why I brought this case here. The way to fix (alleged) vandalism isn't to edit war. You were warned once already 12 hours before I brought this case and you ignored it and kept on keepin' on instead of looking for another solution, like say seeking Admin assistance in the shape of IP edit protection by showing it is in fact vandalism. Ogress _smash! 08:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Blocked – 24 hours. EdJohnston (talk) 17:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

• I suspect this user is operating under an IP address (203.81.69.86) and continuing his same vandalism. Where can we investigate this and have this IP address blocked indefinitely if proven.--58.106.254.122 (talk) 05:16, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Kwamikagami reported by User:Zack90 (Result: )

Page: Luri language (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Kwamikagami (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) --Zack90 (talk) 01:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Zack90 edit-warred over several related articles, including this one, a few weeks ago. He also did not notify me of this report. (Actually, I warned him, twice, and he responded by reporting me here, indicating a rather egregious lack of good faith.) The edit he's pushing is unsourced and contradicts our other articles and the sources we do have, and what little discussion there was went against him.

Zack90 is currently also edit-warring at Northern Luri language, Southern Luri language, Eastern Baluchi language, Southern Baluchi language, and Western Baluchi language. (He might actually have a case for creating N & S Luri if he would engage in discussion and provide RSs.) — kwami (talk) 01:07, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I agree with kwami on the potential WP:BOOMERANG issue here. Zack90 is certainly warring and is just continuing to do so without engaging in Talk page discussions to constructively explain their reasoning and attempt to resolve disputes. As noted by EdJohnston, Zack is even warring with an anti-vandal bot. Even when filing a report here, no explanation was given (and kwami was not notified). Please note that some of the same and similar articles were the topic of a recent dispute here on the noticeboard regarding warring by Mjbmr reported by Kwami (see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive283#User:Mjbmr reported by User:Kwamikagami (Result: No violation)) that was closed as "No violation" despite a WP:3RR violation by Mjbmr, who subsequently said they were retiring, but who has now reappeared as an ally with Zack for the war. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, similar edits and behavior. (Sorry, I may have mixed up the two in my comments above.) When looking for sources to discuss Mjbmr's edits, I discovered that a couple of them might be worthwhile (with some extra work required), but they quit in disgust when they had to actually discuss and justify their edits. Now they're back, but their only editing strategy still appears to be to edit-war. — kwami (talk) 04:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I think Kwamikagami's page blanking at 3 Baluchi language articles is not constructive, especially when he has not explained his edits and there are move discussions in progress in all the 3 pages. Khestwol (talk) 09:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

It may be worth mentioning that this "blanking" of "articles" was not a mere out-of-the-blue blanking of longstanding content. Rather, in all three cases, it was a revert of a very recent conversion of a redirect into an article (in the midst of other related disputes). Ordinarily, the burden of justification for a major undiscussed content change (such as creating a new article where there was previously only a redirect) rests on the person who wants to make that change, more than on the person who wants to revert it. Zack90 and Mjbmr don't even seem to be bothering with edit summaries, much less explaining their perspective on Talk pages. —BarrelProof (talk) 09:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Zack90 hasn't edited since 01:03 on 18 June. Let's hope he will choose to respond here. Perhaps he can say if he has any connection to User:Mjbmr who has amazingly similar interests in a small set of language articles. I'll notify User:Mjbmr that he was mentioned here. EdJohnston (talk) 14:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I see that User:Mjbmr provided a (somewhat ambiguous) reply at User talk:Mjbmr. —BarrelProof (talk) 16:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

This page states that Mjbmr has been blocked indefinitely in the Persian Wikipedia. Per this Google translation it seems likely to be the case. He had an indefinite block on meta.wikipedia.org which lasted for three years and was only lifted in 2014. The meta block was for using socks to impersonate someone else. EdJohnston (talk) 18:26, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

It seems interesting that during the discussion of the request for CentralNotice adminship submitted by Mjbmr, Zack90 was the only editor that voiced support for the request, and it was one of only four Wikimedia edits ever made by that user. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:11, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Z07x10 reported by User:Mztourist (Result: )

Page: Talk:Eurofighter Typhoon (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Z07x10 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [14]
2. [15]
3. [16]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: This is the article talk page, User:Z07x10 is counter-arguing my reasoning for my RFC vote, turning it into an unreadable mess

Comments:
This is the article talk page, User:Z07x10 is counter-arguing my reasoning for my RFC vote, turning it into an unreadable mess Mztourist (talk) 11:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

It was an unreasonable mess from the start. I simply broke your concerns up into sections to allow them to be answered more clearly. It is a talk page not an article, hence I was trying to discuss your concerns. The first of those was the initial edit, which was not a reversion, you then reverted this twice, so I reverted it back twice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Eurofighter_Typhoon&diff=667475535&oldid=667473692

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Eurofighter_Typhoon&diff=667475535&oldid=667473938

I have now moved the responses into the threaded discussion section.

It should be noted that User:Mztourist lodged a complaint of OR against my article edit, which a 3rd party moderated and judged it to be a flawed complaint.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#A_Summary.2C_and_Thoughts_to_Go_Forward

Mztourist then went WP:FISHING to justify his WP:I just don't like it. He then moved to source reliability, but the sources are used thousands on times in Wikipedia already. So he quickly moved back to WP:I just don't like it and began an RFC in the form of a vote, having rejected an opportunity for formal mediating that would actually look at policy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Eurofighter_Typhoon_2

I'm currently having an article edit blocked by cliche mentality with no sound basis in policy. The behaviour displayed has been a disgrace to Wikipedia and discourages editors from participating.Z07x10 (talk) 11:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

A few comments from an involved editor.

First, the reported editor, User:Z07x10, appears to have violated talk page guidelines by refactoring the comments of the reporting editor, User:Mztourist.

Second, the reported editor has altered the wording of an RFC to make it non-neutral by this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AEurofighter_Typhoon&type=revision&diff=667459592&oldid=667458243

Third, the reported editor is misrepresenting what I said about synthesis. I said that I thought that the paragraph in question was not synthesis, because it was sourced. The claim that I "judged it to be a flawed complaint" is wrong.

Fourth, the reported editor has been pushing for eighteen months to add a particular paragraph to Eurofighter Typhoon, and is continuing to forum shop to try to find ways to lock in a particular addition. There is and has been consensus against the addition. Different editors have different reasons for opposing it.

Robert McClenon (talk) 12:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

How on God's green Earth does asking for a policy-based reason make it non-neutral? I was merely trying to prevent a case of WP:I just don't like it.

By changing the wording of the survey question from one asking whether to include to one asking whether to exclude, you rendered the existing !votes incorrect and meaningless. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:15, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Third, the reported editor is misrepresenting what I said about synthesis. I said that I thought that the paragraph in question was not synthesis, because it was sourced. The claim that I "judged it to be a flawed complaint" is wrong. - I really mustn't speak English anymore or something. Alleged synthesis. You judged it not to be synthesis. But it wasn't a flawed complaint??????

Where do you get 18 months from?

A little more than eighteen months, actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZ07x10&type=revision&diff=583349929&oldid=582061973

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&oldid=579486889#Eurofighter_Maximum_Speed

Robert McClenon (talk) 14:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

There are no reasons other than WP:I just don't like it, hence why the mention of policy in the RFC wording is opposed. That's right the complainants are actually opposing the use of policy! Cliches have ruined this project!Z07x10 (talk) 12:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Comment: Z07X10 has shown himself to be very stubborn regarding this article and he's been reported to admins several times. I've proposed on his talk page that he accept a voluntary ban from this article as a condition of continuing to edit Wikipedia. EdJohnston (talk) 17:53, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:ABEditWiki reported by VictoriaGrayson (Result: No action, per discussion)

Page: Caste system in India (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: ABEditWiki (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Diff1
2. Diff2
3. Diff3
4. Diff4

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: LINK

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: LINK

Comments:
User ABEditWiki is engaging in behaviors I have never seen before in Wikipedia. It is clearly disruptive editing at the very minimum.VictoriaGrayson^Talk 14:54, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

• I was not involving in obvious Vandalism. I raised my concerns in the article talk page in detail. But without addressing any of that User VictoriaGrayson kept on reverting.
  

1.
2.
3.
My attempts for engaging with user: VictoriaGrayson on talk page of user was not (deliberately) attended by User VictoriaGrayson in an attempt to get me blocked. I have replied to the block warning issued on my talk page as well with the concerns, which was not attended as well.
User VictoriaGrayson is involving in POV pushing by protecting fringe claims in the lead of the article, without enough consensus on the matter nor adequate mainstream/RS citations to the claim.

I report User VictoriaGrayson for disruptive reversions 3 times as mentioned above as my concerns were un-addressed by User VictoriaGrayson in user talk page as well as article talk page. -- AB^Talk 16:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

References

• I actually agree with User:ABEditWiki on the merits of the point (and oppose VictoriaGrayson). However, I find ABEditwiki's editing behaviour intolerably obnoxious, and should be rewarded with a block. - Kautilya3 (talk) 16:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
• "intolerably obnoxious" is a good characterization. ABEditWiki's response on this page makes no sense. And ABEditWiki reverted Kautilya3 as well.VictoriaGrayson^Talk 17:08, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Result: No action, per discussion. To avoid a block for edit warring, User:ABEditWiki has agreed to wait for consensus before changing the article again. See his statement here. EdJohnston (talk) 17:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:M.srihari reported by User:Jaaron95 (Result: Blocked)

Page

Supercarrier (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

M.srihari (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 14:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC) to 14:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 14:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667341162 by Nick Thorne (talk)removed disruptive edit . the discussion is going on and starting a edit dispute is actually not good for a "experienced"(??) editor"
   2. 14:39, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "minor edit"
   3. 14:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC) ""
2. Consecutive edits made from 12:03, 17 June 2015 (UTC) to 12:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 12:03, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 666389041 by ScrapIronIV (talk)"
   2. 12:04, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 666389272 by ScrapIronIV (talk)"
   3. 12:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667337783 by M.srihari (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 19:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC) on Talk:Supercarrier "/* Threaded Discussion */ Reply"

Comments:

The user has also edit warred in Vikrant-class aircraft carrier. Previous block did not render anything good. JAaron95 (Talk) 15:01, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

A administrator whom I know, MilborneOne advised me not to make any further edits(during a dispute in the supercarrier) until a consensus is arrived upon the issue. But now, when the discussion is going on whether to include Kuznetsov,Vishal,etc. is going on, Two editors removed these references without any consensus. I was actually temporarily absent during that time. This led to these series of edits. So, If my edit is disruptive, I wish similar action to be taken on those disruptive editors too.M.srihari (talk) 15:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)Srihari

Blocked – for a period of 2 weeks – It looks like M.srihari is never going to let go of this article. He gets credit for joining dispute resolution, but no credit at all for continuing to revert during the discussion. Any admin may lift this block if he will promise to accept a permanent voluntary ban from supercarriers on all pages of Wikipedia. EdJohnston (talk) 16:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:KHLrookie reported by User:EvergreenFir (Result: )

Page

American Football (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

KHLrookie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 12:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC) to 12:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
   1. 12:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "clarifying"
   2. 12:49, 18 June 2015 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

Continuation of edit warring (within 24 hours of previous block expiration) after 24 hour block by C.Fred for 3RR violation on same page for same reason. Past AN3 filing can be found above (link to section). EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

• Comment Very clear that the user has been repeatedly told by other editors to discuss the matter on the talk page, Which in fairness he did do on the page in question. However he did not contact the users making the revisions to discuss the matter in question and even though credit is given for raising the matter on the articles talk page, He however continued reverting instead of discussing the matter which doesn't earn him any favours. TheGRVOfLightning (talk) 03:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Denniss reported by User:All Rows4 (Result: )

Page: Carlos Latuff (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Denniss (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [17]

Diffs of the user's reverts: (page is subject to 1RR)

1. [18]
2. [19]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [20]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Comments:
This article, about an Arab cartoonist who "is best known for his images depicting the Israeli–Palestinian conflict", is subject to the 1RR limit applicable to all articles in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The editor being reported has been involved in an edit war dating making 6 reverts over the last 4 days, and violating 1RR today, per the above diffs. I warned them and asked them to self-revert, and they refused, basically saying "others are not listening to my arguments" - see [21] All Rows4 (talk) 17:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Ill note that the content being warred over has been in the article in substantially the same form since November 2014 [22], and that several editors (including Deniss, Huldra, and Pikolas) have been warring to remove it completely with no discussion. Gaijin42 (talk) 17:11, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

It does not belong to the lead in the original biased/POV form, that's why I added where these claims originate from to have it more in an NPOV form. Any reader is able to judge for himself whether these are valid claims (or just a form to counter critics) by reading the section in the article. --Denniss (talk) 17:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Claims and arguments about what is or is not NPOV belong in the article's talk page, and disagreements over these things - which are a content dispute- are not exempt from 3RR/1RR restrictions, which you violated. If you don't want to be blocked, just go to the article, revert yourself, and start discussing this on the Talk page. All Rows4 (talk) 17:43, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Getoverpops reported by User:Scoobydunk (Result:)

Page: Southern Strategy (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Getoverpops (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [23]
2. [24]
3. [25]
4. [26]

Comments:

Getoverpops just returned from a month long topic block which was the result of a previous edit warring resolution. This topic block came after multiple instances of edit warring in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive275#User:129.59.79.123_reported_by_User:North_Shoreman_.28Result:_Semi-protection.29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive277#User:.E2.80.8EGetoverpops_reported_by_User:North_Shoreman_.28Result:_Stale.29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive281#User:Getoverpops_reported_by_User:North_Shoreman_.28Result:_Blocked.29

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&oldid=661782400#User:Getoverpops_reported_by_User:North_Shoreman_.28Result:_.29

We were in the midst of discussing changes to the article when Getoverpops ceased responding to our discussion and started making sweeping changes to the articles. This was my most recent response to our conversation before he started making changes.[27] Getoverpops was also warned again on his talk page about his most recent edit warring, but continued to edit war anyway.[28] Multiple short-term blocks have been implemented before and none of them seem to have any affect as this user persists to revert and edit war with numerous editors.Scoobydunk (talk) 17:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't see how this can be considered an edit war. We are discussing the changes in the talk section and we are dealing with a refinement of the section. I have been active in discussing changes with others on the talk page. The four edits (not reverts) in question are for different changes each time. Furthermore we had reached an agreement that the sources I mentioned were reasonable to add to the article. Those sources were added and now we are simply refining the opening sentence to a paragraph at the end of one section. These are hardly sweeping changes (no new sections, no change in the overall thrust of the topic).

SD has only two things in these recent edits on which we don't agree. First, has been a refinement of the opening sentence for a paragraph that contains two differing views on a subtopic. The second is the inclusion of two references written by an academic in the field that support three other stronger sources (including one that has been in the article for two years). I ask that this notice be dismissed.Getoverpops (talk) 17:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Dqeswn reported by User:Andy Dingley (Result: Indef block)

Page: List of unusual deaths#20th century (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Dqeswn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. <no summary>
2. "dimethylmercury is a compound, so it's not mercury poisoning."
3. "Don't change it back to bullshit..."
4. <no summary>

Warring to repeatedly change the long-term stable

• 1997: Karen Wetterhahn, a professor of chemistry at Dartmouth College, died of mercury poisoning ten months after a few drops of dimethylmercury landed on her protective gloves.

to

• 1997: Karen Wetterhahn, a professor of chemistry at Dartmouth College, died of dimethylmercury poisoning ten months after a few drops of the substance landed on her protective gloves.

As is well-known, mercury has a serious hazard of chronic (long-term) mercury poisoning. However it's surprisingly difficult to achieve this through acute (short-term) exposure to elemental mercury metal. Deliberate suicide attempts have been unsuccessful. [29] [30]

Karen Wetterhahn was an expert chemist on mercury compounds. Her accidental death was unexpected and led to changes in the rules for handling organic mercury compounds, such as dimethylmercury. What was unappreciated beforehand was how risky these compounds were for penetrating protective gear. These compounds are also absorbed biologically far more readily than elemental mercury.

Her death though, as described in the article and from the sources in it such as Losing world‐class chemist Karen Wetterhahn to mercury poisoning redrew the boundaries of safety and risk., is accurately described as mercury poisoning. The crucial aspect was the organomercury compound increasing the risk of penetrating the gloves. In contrast to the unexpected difficulty of absorbing mercury quickly otherwise, it is the mechanism of exposure that makes the difference, and the eventual cause of death can accurately be described as the broader "mercury poisoning". The summary "dimethylmercury is a compound, so it's not mercury poisoning." is wrong, per the article, per the sources. Nor is the previous version "bullshit".

The edit warring here might appear to be over a trivial detail, but to chemists this stuff matters (it has killed at least one expert chemist). Chemists care about precise detail in stuff like this. In April we saw much the same thing from Dqeswn with 4 changes at Largest artificial non-nuclear explosions "This is not true either. Deflagration AKA burning is not an explosion either." (Note that although deflagration isn't a detonation, it is of course considered as an explosion. Chemists care about these things.)

It's at 4RR, clear bright-line. Only attempts to discuss were mine User_talk:Dqeswn#Mercury poisoning (after 2RR) Talk:Karen_Wetterhahn#Changes_at_List_of_unusual_deaths.231990s (after 3RR) and Dqeswn's User_talk:Andy_Dingley#dimethylmercury (simultaneous with 4RR).

I had already blocked when I noted this. Editor blocked until he agrees to cease the edit war. Restored the article to the version that agrees with the citation provided in the article.—Kww(talk) 18:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Her death is not accurately described as mercury poisoning, and is not so described by the first of the three sources cited (the other two are not currently accessible). According to that source "[dimethylmercury] is one of the most potent neurotoxins known. It readily crosses the blood-brain barrier". It is way more toxic than mercury. I shall correct the article in line with the edit-warrior's views. Maproom (talk) 20:12, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Unsurprisingly, I would not consider that a particularly good change. As to your claim about the three sources, we have

• [31] "the second person to die of dimethylmercury poisoning in this century." / "of mercury poisoning."
• [32] "Losing world‐class chemist Karen Wetterhahn to mercury poisoning"
• [33] "she slipped into a coma and died from acute mercury poisoning."

She was exposed to dimethylmercury. She died of mercury poisoning. Now it is not incorrect to state "dimethylmercury poisoning" either, but the whole crux of her notability is because of the distinction between mercury and dimethylmercury as exposure hazards. We should preserve that distinction and make it clear, especially in wide audience introductions, such as in LoUD. To claim, "Her death is not accurately described as mercury poisoning" (your emphasis) is just plain wrong. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

She no more died of "mercury poisoning" than someone who swallows cyanide dies of "carbon poisoning". She died of poisoning by a particularly toxic compound of mercury. Some lazy journalists, knowing that metallic mercury is itself a poison, fail to distinguish "mercury" from "a compound of mercury". But read source 84 from the article. Maproom (talk) 21:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:No voy a llorar reported by User:ToonLucas22 (Result: Blocked 60 hours)

Page

Can't Be Tamed (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

No voy a llorar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 14:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667463934 by ShadowRanger (talk)"
2. 19:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "I love you Shadow"
3. 19:57, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 667537483 by ShadowRanger (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 19:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC) "Warning: Violating the three-revert rule on Bangerz. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

I warned for violating the 3RR at Bangerz, but continues to edit war on other pages. TL22 (talk) 20:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Actually, the reported user seems to be WP:NOTHERE. --TL22 (talk) 20:05, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

And continues to edit war even after being notified of this report. Has also made a weird comment on my talk page. --TL22 (talk) 20:09, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 60 hours. Edit warring, disruptive editing, harassment. Bishonen | talk 20:13, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Nomoskedasticity reported by User:31.44.136.75 (Result: )

Page: Yehuda Glick (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Nomoskedasticity (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

[34]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 18:18, 18 June 2015‎
2. 08:48, 19 June 2015‎
3. Additional revert by Zero, a long standing buddy of Nomoskedasticity.

Comments:
There have been long conversation on the Talk page in which Nomoskedasticity didn't bother to participate yet he reverted twice. I already reverted the same change by user Zero 18:30, 16 June 2015‎ asking explicitly to get involved in discussion before interfering but aparently Nomoskedasticity is above this.

31.44.136.75 (talk) 09:18, 19 June 2015 (UTC)