Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Titodutta

Titodutta

Voice your opinion on this candidate (talk page) (90/1/2); Scheduled to end 19:51, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Nomination

Titodutta (talk · contribs) – I am proud to present to you Titodutta as a candidate for adminship. Tito has been contributing to Wikipedia for almost four years, and has proven himself to be a dedicated member of the community. Tito's main area of contributions is to Indian articles. He brought Swami Vivekananda to Good Article status, and he has an impressively long list of DYKs, many of them also related to Vivekananda. That is no coincidence; Tito was one of the founders of WikiProject Swami Vivekananda, and has created many articles about him for a celebration of the 150th anniversary of his birth. Tito writes about all sorts of Indian topics, though, not just that one. To see what I mean, just take a look through his impressively long list of new articles; as of today, there are 527 of them.

Tito is not just an article writer, but an article reviewer as well. He has quite a few Good Article reviews under his belt, for example Talk:Mahatma Gandhi/GA2, Talk:Independence Day (India)/GA1 and Talk:Independence Day (Pakistan)/GA1. He is also a well-known face at WikiProject India, with 343 edits to Wikipedia:Noticeboard for India-related topics. His interests also extend to editor retention; he was a regular reviewer at Wikipedia:Merchandise giveaways/Nominations before it moved to Meta, and he has adopted quite a few newer users. Not to mention that he single-handedly created this user award page.

He is also not shy of contributing to admin areas. Tito has extensive recent page patrol experience with STiki and Huggle - he is number 59 on the STiki leaderboard, with 6426 uses. He also has 147 edits to RFPP, and the AfD comments of his that I checked all showed sound reasoning with a clear base in deletion policy. On top of all this, he is unfailingly civil, and very helpful to new users. I think he would do very well as an admin, and we certainly need more admins who work in India-related topics. I hope you will join me in giving him your support. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 09:25, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Co-nomination by Strike Eagle

I'm quite glad to co-nominate Tito for adminship. Mr. Stradivarius has given a rather clear picture of Tito but I would try my best to mention anything he has forgotten. Titodutta is clearly the most civil user I have seen here for years. He never gets into battleground mentality, no matter how heated the discussion gets. He is a great content writer which is readily evident from his staggering 98 DYKs, a GA and 527 articles! For those suffering with editcountitis, he has more than 67k edits too! Tito comes first in editor retention and promoting wikilove, inline with his civil behavior. Tito is a regular attender to the real-life events too. I was really taken aback by the way he called me and requested me to attend a recent conference, all with his own resources. I guess 99% of us wouldn't do that and that shows his dedication towards the project.

On the admin front, Tito is an ardent anti-vandalism fighter using STiki and Twinkle. He has quite a lot of edits to RPP among others. He is very helpful at the WikiProject India noticeboard and works hard to get everything solved by consensual discussion rather than trying to impose seniority and authority to get things done. Among others, he has (co)nominated two users ([1] [2]) for RfA, both being successful. All in all, I think Tito is one of the most civil users around, something which has become almost extinct here. He has enough experience in the admin domain and I think he would make a great admin. We surely need more admins to work in the Indian space and I think Tito perfectly fits in the role. Cheers, ƬheStrikeΣagle 13:14, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Co-nomination by Antanana

Hello there. First of all, alas, but I am not an active contributor to English Wikipedia. I have my hands full with contributing to Ukrainian Wikipedia and other projects, but I am a really active (and thoroughly dedicated) reader of English Wikipedia. And I would like the project to grow and develop. And be clean ;) (as an administrator of Ukrainian Wikipedia I do know what I am talking about. and keeping a project clean-and-shiny requires a lot of dedication). The user was the reason I had watched a Bengali-language film (to create an article about the film by the user's request ;). I do believe that it was one of the wikiwonders, as I cannot think of any sound reason for me in my real life to watch a Bengali-language film (I adore books actually). This quality of motivating people met by chance, cross-project, cross-language is just really fascinating. and though day-by-day administrator's duties are not that fancy, it can help. to keep going on. thus I would believe in the user and give him a chance to find out for himself whether this role really fits him and whether he can do more for the project he likes. best, --アンタナナ 19:31, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: Thank you Mr. Stradivarius. I accept this nomination. Regards. --Tito☸Dutta 09:30, 12 January 2015 (UTC) Thanks Strike Eagle and Antanana for your support. I accept these. --Tito☸Dutta 19:35, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. Please answer these questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?

A: I want to start with page protection and requested move-related works. Then I'll focus in areas such as redirects for discussion, categories for discussion and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. There are not too many active administrators on the India noticeboard. Sometimes we need admin tools there. A year ago, I was inviting admins to join this board and help us. I'll try to serve this noticeboard. I'll participate in WP:ANI and WP:AN discussions too.

2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?

A: Online activities I have been mainly working in India-related articles. Some of my best contributions to Wikipedia—

• Swami Vivekananda-related articles
• WP:Deceased Wikipedians page redesigning
• 98 DYKs
• Participation at Noticeboard for India-related topics
• Preparing WP:RMI report (after 2014 Wikimedia India conference)

Offline activities

• I have attended a few real-life events of Wikimedia India, including 2014 Wikimedia India conference, Bengali Wikipedia 10 years celebration

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Yes, I have been in conflicts over editing several times.

• Most of these conflicts or disagreements were easy to handle. Firstly I try to talk to the user(s), either on article talk or user's talk page and try to reach a consensus.
• Sometimes these conflicts are really complicated. For example the Asaram Bapu- BLP issue (see talk page discussions too). This issue was taken to administrator's noticeboard twice (or thrice probably). Someone informed Jimbo Wales about the discussion. He came and his edit was reverted too. It was one of the most difficult debates I have participated in.
  A similar example is disruptive edits at India against corruption and related articles.

When disagreement occurs, I try to stay calm and relaxed. I also try to watch my words. And the most important thing, I always prefer policy-based arguments. Thanks.

Additional questions from DGG

4 Have you ever worked with articles from students in school classes? Please comment on any special concerns in dealing with such articles.

A: Thank you for your question. No, I have not worked with articles from students in school classes. Someone from WMF or Wikimedia India mailed me last year and requested me to conduct few workshops. At that time I failed to co-operate there because of real life difficulties and other issues. From September-October (2014), I have started attending real-life events of Wikimedia Foundation or Wikimedia India. Currently I am trying to work on a project, where I may need to conduct a few workshops in schools and colleges.
Now, let me answer the second part of your question: last December (2014), I attended a conference where I represented Wiki(m/p)edia India. There I was in charge of the Wikipedia help (question/answer) desk. Obviously many people (students. teachers etc.) came to us and asked many questions. There I noticed that most of these people do not know about Wikipedia policy. There people/students/teachers asked/complained to me "your Wikipedia have wrong information about our college/school?" "Why don't you write an article on our "this" professor or teacher, he teaches very well?" Just on 9-10 January (2015) when I was attending Bengali Wikipedia 10th anniversary conference, a few guys were asking me about creating an article on their University's printing department.
Now, these two events were "eye-openers" for me. I witnessed that the moment you start explaining things to them (for example, "this" and "this" are Wikipedia notability criteria etc. Or "we need "these" references" to create an article on your professor), they also start co-operating with you. So, from these events, I learned— a) I must be patient and listen to other party's arguments without becoming annoyed or anxious b) I should try my best to explain Wikipedia policies and guidelines to them in simple words.
I'll try follow these things in future (but of course, I'll not encourage vandalism). Regards.

Followup Did anyone ask you about anything relating to copyright or copyvio? (that's a hint) DGG ( talk ) 00:26, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

• A: Thanks for following up and giving the hint. Sorry for delay in replying. For more than last 3 hours I am trying to concentrate on your this question and the hint. There are so many discussions both on-wiki and off-wiki, that I am facing some difficulties to follow your hint. Here are few recent on-wiki discussions/messages or copyright a) Wikimedia Commons related question, b) a message form Article for creation team. c) I have talked to my admin coach many times on copyright related topics, d) recently in a real-life Wikimedia event, one or two college students asked me copyright-related questions (eg. what will be copyright status of my image if I upload on Wikipedia?). Regards.
• Add: and yes one more thing, I have started feeling that copyright problems are a common issue when dealing with students. I have seen it on Wikipedia where school or college students want to create/expand their school/college website and copies content from their school website or somewhere else. In real-life, I haven't dealt with any such student. Regards.

5. Could you comment on your AfD keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/INSZoom (2nd nomination). Do you consider all the sources you mentioned there suitable to support notability?

A: Frankly speaking, that was one of my worst votes in AFD ever. In 2013, when I participated in this discussion, I was not aware of the difference between "independent news articles" and "press release". At the same time, I was working on an Indian English newspaper search tool and WP:INDAFD etc. No, press-release or self-promotions should not be considered as reliable refs. (Most probably) I was over-enthusiastic at that time. I did my studies (later) and I promise I'll be careful in future. Regards.

Additional question from Iaritmioawp

6. Consider the following hypothetical scenario which will test your understanding of WP:CONSENSUS. Five editors take part in a discussion. Four of them argue in favor of outcome A, one of them argues in favor of outcome B. The arguments of the advocates of outcome A are weak and are easily refuted by the one editor who argues in favor of outcome B. The one editor who argues in favor of outcome B offers numerous policy-, guideline-, and common-sense-based arguments, none of which are refuted. You are the administrator whose role is to formally close the discussion. What is the outcome of the debate, A or B?

A: (Firstly, although you have not mentioned, let's consider those 4 votes are not sock/SPA votes), now in such situation a) if I find only one editor is making policy-based arguments, and all others are just talking unnecessarily, (following what I was doing so far), I'll try to get involved in that discussion and support that editor's policy-based arguments with more points (of course as an involved editor, I'll not be able to close it then, there are many more admins who can close the discussion), b) now, suppose I am not permitted to to get involved in the discussion, I'll definitely not close the discussion immediately, and will encourage those four editors to try to reply to "editor 1"'s comments/arguments. I'll also inform related noticeboards about this discussion so that experienced editors from the project come and check the discussion (on WikiProject India noticeboard, we get such requests). I may also ask other experienced admins or go to WP:AN to get suggestions c) now, suppose (for some reason), there is not a single active admin on En WP, and there is not a single active noticeboard or WP:3O too (I really can not think about it, and hopefully this will never happen), and I am the only admin and I must close the discussion immediately, after carefully studying all points (I need an example here) I'll either close the discussion as "no consensus" or I'll close it in favour of editor 1, the only editor who was making policy based arguments. Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion. Of course, I'll try my best to write a detailed and clear statement while closing the discussion. Regards.

Additional question from Samwalton9

7. Could you discuss a time when you have been swayed from your original opinion to another during a discussion or dispute?

A: Yes, the most important one I can remember now is this (Feroze Gandhi section). They provided some good references, and I conceded. (later I filed an application to the Central Government of India under Right to Information Act. They have informed me that this needs detailed study, and I am invited to their National Archive of India, Delhi. I have not attended it still). If someone convinces me that my points are wrong or my knowledge on some topic are incomplete, I'll gladly change my opinion.

Additional question from HJ Mitchell

8. You and two of your nominators are all at pains to stress your "civility", perhaps just because it's flavour of the month at RfA, but I'm wondering if you've ever encountered a situation in which it was impossible to get your point across and be nice? Can you provide an example of dealing with a particularly intransigent or tendentious editor? And where do you draw the line between being nice and feeding trolls?

A: Hello, the worst one is surely the IAC dispute. On one hand some of them were continuously harassing (including real-life harassments) us and making legal threats against us every now and then, on the other hand some of them were expecting that I would help them to rewrite the article (there is no consensus to do so). Please see Sitush's comment after Support #24. I do not know about those WMF activities or legal activities.
About drawing a line between being nice and feeding trolls — if someone follows guidelines and policies — they'll find me as one of they best friends they can have on Wiki. If they try to vandalize Wiki, they'll find me reverting their edits, giving them warnings, reporting against them. (I try not to personally attack anyone). We should not feed trolls.

Additional question from Dirtlawyer1

9. Hey, Titodutta. You have a strong track record of work and accomplishment, and barring any unforeseen issues, I intend to support your candidacy. That having been said, I would like to gain some additional insight into your thinking. You wrote above that one of the areas in which you would like to work as an administrator is AfD. Your overall AfD record is solid, and has improved over time. Could you provide some insight into how your understanding of the concept of notability has evolved over the last three years? Can you briefly discuss the relationship between specific notability guidelines and the general notability guidelines? And, finally, in addition to the notability of a list subject, can you briefly discuss some of the factors that you would use to evaluate the suitability of a list topic for inclusion. Thanks and good luck.

A: Hello Dirtlawyer1, a) I think, I'll not start my works with AFD closures. In answer #1, I mentioned AFD-works at the end. I'll follow the same order that I have mentioned. I have read "Cautious support" suggestion of Glrx (support #32). Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try to gain more experience before closing AfDs.
b) in the last 3-4 years, I have become more familiar with various Wikipedia notability guidelines and other policies. In 2011, I had little or no idea about any Wikipedia notability guidelines, in 2012–2013 I read about WP:BKCRIT, WP:NACTOR, WP:BLPFAMILY etc. In April 2013, I did not have enough knowledge on press release or promotional newspaper coverages, then after an AFD discussion I learned about it. By participating in discussions, talking to others or reading something, I am getting more and more experienced. Things are mainly changing in that way.
c) the general notability guidelines WP:GNG page attempts to explain the concept of "notability" in brief and in general (however that is the central page to assess any subject's notability). Now it is not possible to explain everything in a paragraph (or a page), that's why we have special notability guidelines (WP:SNG). SNG do not contradict WP:GNG, but try to explain the same points (or additional but similar points) with much more details and examples and in a subject-specific way. For example, notability criteria of numbers, that is a specific notability guideline, but explains things much more clearly and specifically.
d) "list-topic": a name or entry may be included in a list if it is important to the subject, its relationship with the subject is well-established and well-sourced, and (preferable, but not mandatory) the entry itself follows general notability guidelines of Wikipedia. Red-links may also be included in a list with support of reliable sources (I have seen school/college alumni lists or notable people form any city-related lists often require clean-up and attention).
If a new list article is created, that must follow Wikipedia's content policies such as WP:GNG, WP:Verifiability, WP:NOT (specially WP:NOTDIR). I just can not go ahead and create an article List of people who voted in User:Titodutta's Wikipedia RFA
Thank you for your good wishes. Regards.

Additional question from Ritchie333

10. I'm concerned that your talk page has {{user health inactive}} and {{Off and On WikiBreak}} at the top. As you say yourself, you have become involved in difficult debates on ANI with long-term POV pushers. Are you worried that becoming an admin will put a target on your back and lead to burnout and stress? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:29, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

A:Thanks for you concerns and kindness. I have removed this banner now. Yes, this may happen, but a) I do not have any fixed target or goal here. I'll try my best to improve this project, that's all b) (thankfully) now I know the importance of Wikibreaks, if I just can not handle Wikistress anymore, I'll go for a short Wikibreak. Wikipedia will not stop if I take a Wikibreak, but it'll help me a lot and c) most importantly, right at this moment this RFA discussion is giving me a lot of strength. I do hope that the "admin" status and the responsibilities and respect associated with it, will make me more powerful to face such difficult situations and encourage me to do continue doing (good?) works. Hope for the best.

Additional question from Shirt58

11. An article is listed for speedy deletion. Its content is "the Yellowknife Journal-Gazette is comunty nwspapper in Canda my mom writes 4 it LOL". How would you deal with this?

A: I have been a member of Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron. If I find an article that can kept on Wikipedia by doing copyedits or adding references, I'll try to do so. For example Adhisaya Ulagam was nominated for deletion twice, MichaelQSchmidt and I worked and that became a DYK article. That was a joy for us. I can give you more examples if you want.
CSD criteria? Anyway, the last part of it my mom writes 4 it LOL needs to be removed immediately. That has no encyclopedic value. Now— Yellowknife is the capital city of Northwest Territories, Cananda. The newspaper must be related to it. Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Here I can not find too many web or news sources discussing "Yellowknife Journal-Gazette". I have found that there is a newspaper called Yellowknifer — it is a community newspaper, published from Yellowknife, NWT, Canada. I feel this might be the same newspaper, but I have not found anything that clearly mentions "Yellowknife Journal-Gazette" is an alternative name of "Yellowknifer". There is another paper "Yellowknife Journal", published from Canada. But I can find only one mention about it (and can not access the content). So probably I should ask someone who knows about Canadian newspapers or magazines. Reading those two lines and after doing some studies, I feel currently the article has some content to identify the subject but lacks sufficient context and there is no indication of importance too. And if I am unsure I feel it is a good alternative to send the article AfD for further opinions.
If I find similar articles, I'll follow the same procedure. (However I was not planning to work in CSD area in near future). Regards

I'm a little confused by your answer here. By saying "lacks sufficient context" and "no indication of importance", does that mean you would consider speedy deleting the article (or nominating it as such)? If so, which criteria would you use? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:40, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

• A: No, I'll not speedily delete this article. a), currently I am not planning to work in CSD area, and then b) if I have to nominate the article for deletion, I'll make basic copyedit (typo fix, formatting fix, wording) and will send the article to AFD for discussion. Regards.

Additional question from Biblioworm

12. Will you have an admin recall process? If so, do you have any idea what your criteria would be? (I feel that admin accountability is very important, and I plan to ask every candidate this question.)

A: Hello, yes, I like the process. I was checking User:Lar/Accountability and User:TParis/Recall. I need to think before I can tell you exact criteria and process. But, most probably initially I'll allow anyone (anyone with a registered account) to initiate a request or start an RFC. If majority of people participating in that RFC feel that my adminship eligibility needs to be re-assessed, I'll follow their decision (sock and SPA votes will not be counted). Regards.

Additional question from Jim Carter

13. While I totally support you, but it looks like some people opposes candidates for baseless reasons. So I want to know your opinion on "Is RfA a broken process?"

A: Hello, I feel, a more important question is— do we have any better alternative? I personally do not know any. RFA may not be a perfect procedure, but it is not a broken one either. Regards.

Additional question from Stfg

14. Hi Titodutta. I need to press you a bit on your answer to Q11. I know you've said you don't plan to handle CSD for the time being, but you're requesting tools that allow you to eventually. So:

1. I nominate the article for CSD under criterion A1, pointing out that there is no Yellowknife Journal-Gazette, but there exist the following "Yellowknife Journal"s: (a) a book by Jean Steinbruck; (b) a blog' (c) a column in the New York Times (example). Therefore I claim that the article doesn't give enough information to identify the topic. How do you handle this nomination?
2. Instead, I nominate it under criterion A7. How do you handle this one?
3. Why AfD rather than PROD?
4. I couldn't find the "Yellowknife Journal" newspaper you said exists but couldn't access the content. Could you provide the link, please?

A: Hello, a) it has some context to identify the subject. I don't think it clearly qualifies for WP:A1. So I would not delete under it.
b) It is about a company, and companies may come under A7. Is being a community newspaper a credible claim of importance? — there I was trying to concentrate. c) AFD and not PROD because — in the PROD process, I can not say that someone or the article writer will surely contest it and will provide sources within 1 week. My aim here was to get second/community opinion.
d) The first article of this search page mentions it. I could open the page properly. Regards.

General comments

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Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review his contributions before commenting.

Discussion

Support

1. Support As co-nominator. Surely deserves the mop. Pretty sure would be one of the most civil and friendly admins around. ƬheStrikeΣagle 19:59, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
2. Support as nominator. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 20:04, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
3. Support. Absolutely yes.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:05, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
4. Support per Mr. Strad's nomination -- no reason to think they will misuse the tools. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:06, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
5. Strong support — Long overdue. Kurtis ^(talk) 20:06, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
6. Support of course! :) --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 20:13, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
7. Support diligent and helpful; strong knowledge of policy. Ijon (talk) 20:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
8. Support—Sensible, level-headed editor. Lesser Cartographies (talk) 20:23, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
9. Support No evidence they abuse the tools or position. Caution in use of either on India related articles to avoid COI.--MONGO 20:29, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
10. support as a co-nominator. a friendly and well-mannered user. I believe he can help with cleaning up ;) --アンタナナ 20:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
11. Support I have complete confidence in Tito's dedication, competence, knowledge, and demeanor. He'll make a great admin. --BDD (talk) 20:50, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
12. Support I have interacted with Tito a lot over the last few years, mostly but not entirely with regard to India-related matters. I wholeheartedly endorse the statements in Mr. Strad's nomination. - Sitush (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
13. Support. Because Titodutta is so all-round and prolific and checks all my boxes, I had to look a lot more to see if there were any reasons I might wish to be more cautious about !voting 'support'. Naturally I didn't find any. What I did find however, is that it is almost essential for Titodutta with his knowledge of the Indian sub continent and its culture, to be an admin on en.Wiki. There's a lot of work waiting for him. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 21:10, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
14. Support kind and friendly user, my interactions with the user were splendid! ///EuroCarGT 21:15, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
15. Support - I see no obvious problems. Arfæst! 21:16, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
16. Support (edit conflict × 2) This editor greatly exceeds most of my RFA standards. Mkdw^talk 21:16, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
17. Support obviously. --Stfg (talk) 21:17, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
18. Strong Support Polite, but persevering, Tito is well respected in the world of India articles (no mean task that!) and is, as Kudpung says, almost an essential addition to the admin corps because of his level headedness and his knowledge of the Indian subcontinent. --regentspark (comment) 21:29, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
19. Support — sparklism ^hey! 21:34, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
20. Strong support, helpful, useful, highly competent editor. I'd support Tito in any case, but specifically we need more admins who are knowledgeable wrt Indian topics, per Wikipedia:Systemic bias. Bishonen | talk 21:37, 12 January 2015 (UTC).
21. Support Probably doesn't know much about gaming or synchronised swimming, but if he knows about Indian films that'll do nicely. A lot more polite than I am, but gets his message over well. And it's the right message... Peridon (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
22. Support I've known Tito since he first started. I've had the pleasure of working with him in various activities off Wikipedia. The thing that most stands out about his work on and off Wikipedia is also what will make him a good admin, his temperament. He has a great demeanor, is polite, mellow, level-headed and is always calm. Bgwhite (talk) 22:26, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
23. Support Tito's dedication to wikipedia, vast experience, and civil conduct will assuredly make him a good admin, as the nominators and supporters point out. In addition, I'd like to highlight two other qualities of Tito's that I have observed over the years: (1) his coordination and cajoling abilities (which both User:Antanana and I can attest to) that have for example helped in building the Swami Vivekananda project; and (2) his being pro-actively helpful in guiding users even in relation to articles Tito doesn't have a prior interest in, as can be seen for example in his participation at India noticeboard. These qualities will make him an even more effective admin, and I look forward to him gaining the bit. Abecedare (talk) 22:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
24. Support - I'm interested in (but not concerned about) the nominee's decline in activity over the last 18 months from a high this time two years ago. I have no doubt he will be a good admin, regardless of the amount of time he has to commit to administrative activities, just curious. St★lwart¹¹¹ 22:46, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

    Much of the decline, which is pretty irrelevant to RfA given the general activity, probably relates to WP:LTA/IAC. If you want more information then you may well have to turn to email, I think. There is an ongoing situation and it is not one of Titodutta's making. He is one of the good guys and it falls under the "defender of the wiki" banner, although for legal reasons much of it should not be discussed here. I'm happy to fill in some of the gaps via email but I can't reveal all and I doubt that WMF would reveal as much as I might. That he, like me, pretty much put his real life on the line should be a positive, not a negative. My apologies for sounding so mysterious but much of this has gone on through entirely acceptable and necessary backchannels and I think that WMF will at least acknowledge that point even if their hands are otherwise tied. - Sitush (talk) 00:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

    More than sufficient. I was aware of some of the issues, but I wasn't aware of the broader impact. Certainly not to the extent that it impacted on editing capacity like that. I also don't think its relevant, except to say that anyone who still seeks to volunteer is worthy of our support. St★lwart¹¹¹ 05:05, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

25. Support Tito was very helpful when I was a new user, and I am confident that he will use the admin tools responsibly. —Anne Delong (talk) 22:52, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
26. Stephen 23:07, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
27. Support He is exactly the kind of admin we need. He is an all-around contributor with strong experience in articles, files, and projects - very much here to build an encyclopedia. He has repeatedly demonstrated his ability to work collaboratively with others. He works in an area where admins are scarce. And I totally trust him with the tools. --MelanieN (talk) 23:45, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
28. Support Overdue for the mop. Miniapolis 23:51, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
29. Support. I'll echo Sitush: Titodutta is indeed one of the good guys. I have found them willing to listen and to learn, and to be pretty even-keeled. Drmies (talk) 00:41, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
30. Support - NQ (talk) 01:30, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
31. Support have overall positive impressions of them from their work on India related articles. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 01:35, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
32. Cautious support. Saying AfD in Q1 makes me look at AfDs, but there were only 7 in 2014; not a good sign. Looking at the conflicts gave me further pause because args were weak or non-existent on policy; there were some appropriate sounding withdrawls. I saw the INSZoom with its prweb sources and stopped looking; to me, it's close to a fatal mistake but can be saved with a Q. DGG framed Q5 appropriately, the answer hits, so I'll support -- but get more experience before closing AfDs. The as yet unanswered Q6 is also appropriate, but it's a softball. Glrx (talk) 01:44, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
33. Good luck. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 01:58, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
34. Support; whenever our paths have crossed, I've seen Titodutta working tirelessly on tough problems; I think the mop would be in safe hands. bobrayner (talk) 02:20, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
35. Support fine editor. --AmritasyaPutra^T 02:36, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
36. Big support Very good member. He is very encouraging and even when he is discussing the article disputes he knows how to respond and how much is relevant. He can suggest a solution that won't put your work at risk. Bladesmulti (talk) 03:17, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
37. Support, excellent work on India articles, a tricky topic field where tensions sometimes run hot. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 04:24, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
38. Support Welcoming nature and polite even in offline events and activities AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 04:38, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
39. Support No issues. --I am One of Many (talk) 06:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
40. support no problems. Jianhui67 ^T★C 07:24, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
41. Support Has come along way in the last 3-6 months, definitely ready for the mop. Wield it well :) Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:30, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
42. Support I was waiting for this RfA.--Skr15081997 (talk) 10:29, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
43. Support Yep. Someone with Tito's knowledge of India related topics able to wield a mop will be a great asset to the project.  Philg88 ^♦talk 11:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
44. Support Thanks for volunteering. Ben Moore (talk) 11:42, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
45. Support Going by his contributions, seems to be an excellent candidate. Ethically^Yours! 11:56, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
46. Support Jim Carter 12:12, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
47. Support Very good editor, possess good knowledge of policies. Dedicated person. -sarvajna (talk) 12:16, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
48. Support - I see decent contributions and conversations. Long term good editor. - Taketa (talk) 12:35, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
49. Support - Candidate has a strong record of cautious incremental learning, asking questions, seeking advice, and listening to others. What he doesn't know, he will learn before launching into new areas. He's not going to break the wiki, and his calm personality and demeanor is exactly what we need in some of the more volatile subject areas of the project in which he works. I feel as warm and fuzzy about Titodutta as I have ever have about any given RfA candidate. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:37, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
50. Support - I have looked through Titodutta's contributions but I can't find anything that suggests he's not a level headed editor with a track record for staying calm in disputes, willing to help others and contributing to both content and administrative areas, particularly for India-related topics which we badly need. There are a number of highlights, but for me this one sums up the attitude I like. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:49, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
51. No issues at all. Pmlineditor (t · c · l) 13:00, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
52. Support - I trust the judgment of the nominators and several of the supporters. Answers to questions look really good. Spot checks of contributions look good. Seems like a definate positive to have as an admin. PaleAqua (talk) 13:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
53. Support - good record at AfD, CSD (well, except A10 nominations that should've just been redirected ... but why do we even have an A10 criterion??? Not entirely their fault.) Writes articles. Spot check of edit history reveals no concerns. WilyD 14:32, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

    Because a lot of them are just a capitalisation difference or a greatly extended version of the title, neither of which will help in searching. Peridon (talk) 17:22, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

    If you're an admin, check out this A10 - should I have done anything different? --Redrose64 (talk) 18:26, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

    Yes, there are a very, very small number of valid A10s, but 95+% are invalid (for instance, see Peridon's comment, neither of which is suitable for A10, and are often kept at RfD), and the remaining few could probably qualify as G2/G6 (such as your example, which must've been created in error). In any event, Titodutta made multiple bad A10 nominations - but life goes on. WilyD 22:39, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

54. Support - I have every expectation this well-rounded, level-headed editor will be a well-rounded, level headed admin. No concerns, thank you for running. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:51, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
55. You dealt with those loonies? And you want to do more thankless tasks? Support. I wish I could tell you that loonies lie that were rare. It's unusual that you get them that persistent, that prolific, and that nasty, but sadly trolls who are two of the three pop up every day and those who tick all three boxes are not as rare as you might hope. Just remember that AGF if not a suicide pact and I'm sure you'll be fine. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:20, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
56. Support No concerns, I'm sure the candidate will make a great admin. --Andromedabluesphere440 (talk) 16:43, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
57. Support. --L235 (talk) Ping when replying 17:44, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
58. Support I've often come across posts from Titodutta at e.g. WP:VPT - if it's a request for assistance, it's always a sensible one, and I help where I can. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:24, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
59. Support A doughty fighter for Wikipedia, an all-rounder, and an initiator who has started 141 new topics on pages in WP namespace: Noyster (talk), 19:37, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
60. Support 67,735 edits 99% with summary, no wonder I keep seeing your name everywhere.--AldNon^Ucallin?☎ 19:49, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
61. Support Looks like a solid candidate with no red flags that I can discern. Regards the sole Oppose !vote I will make two brief observations. The bulk of the oppose comment is directed at the article Swami Vivekananda and appears to be a content dispute. I note however that the article has been around since at least the early 2000s and has been edited thousands of times by numerous editors. It has passed review to obtain GA status. This seems to suggest that the concerns expressed are inconsistent with consensus. The other issue raised was the use of the Indian flag as a significant part of the candidate's signature. The apparent inference being that any display of affection for one's country makes one a nationalist and is a disqualifier from adminship. I find the arguments presented thus far in opposition to be unconvincing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:12, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
62. Support - Excellent candidate, No issues!, Good luck :), (BTW quick note - unlike the opposer below I actually like your signature – It's different & well unique .) –Davey2010^Talk 21:21, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
63. Support I have seen the candidate's work and have been impressed not only by its quality but by the range of contributions. Wikipedia certainly needs administrators with his background and with the ability to review Indian articles with some familiarity with the topics. I agree with Ad Orientem's analysis of the oppose vote. While such concerns might arise in some cases, I believe the examples do not support them as to this candidate. I am not concerned that the candidate is a POV pusher. Also, the candidate appears to have a good demeanor, which is an important trait for an administrator. Donner60 (talk) 22:13, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
64. Support —Frosty ☃ 22:52, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
65. Support Gaff (talk) 23:09, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
66. Support - Great Wikipedian, fantastic all-rounder. And, no, the signature is of no concern to me. Orphan Wiki 23:17, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
67. Support Will clearly be a welcome addition to the admin team. --Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:38, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
68. Support. For me, this is one of those "though-they-were-already" situations. Steel1943 (talk) 00:07, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
69. Strong support – In the days of editors forgetting about the actual content of articles and more on processes, and some editors forgetting to be civil, your article work is impressive, and you have managed to stay civil in the most heated disputes. Support. HelloThereMinions ^t 00:36, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
70. Support Impressed by the candidate's work at DYK. Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:54, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
71. Support No obvious concerns. – Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 02:18, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
72. Support. No concerns at all, and very glad to see you running. - Dank (push to talk) 02:42, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
73. Support with enthusiasm! Wikipedia needs more editors like you! Intelligent, civil-minded content editors with knowledge of South Asian-related topics. Happy to have you aboard. -- œ^™ 02:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
74. Rschen7754 03:33, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
75. Support I thought a Mop was already in their hands Lor^Talk 03:34, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
76. Support No concerns. Another excellent candidate. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 03:54, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
77. Support Fully qualified and highly sensible. DGG ( talk ) 04:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
78. Support I have seen Tito work on India-related articles. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
79. Support While I don't believe I've ever met Tito personally, my research shows a top-notch Wikipedia who deserves the buttons. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 05:15, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
80. Support - I don't see any issues. Give it a go. Command and Conquer Expert! ^{speak to me...}_{review me...} 07:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
81. Support a strong candidate with knowlege and experience in dealing with a topic area that presents many problems, give this guy a mop asap! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:33, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
82. Support JimRenge (talk) 09:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
83. Support a well qualified candidate, no concerns. Bellerophon _{talk to me} 10:14, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
84. Support: the longer comments above sum up my reasons. I'm a self-described speedy deletion grump, and your answer to my question neatly sums up the thorough research I would expect of someone who has access to deletion. (If I may be so vain, it also neatly sums up my own thought processes when I assess a speedy deletion request.) As Kabuki aficionados shout from the audience, "待っていました!" ("I've been waiting for this!") Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:36, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
85. Support. Well-rounded editor; lone oppose is unconvincing. FireflySixtySeven (talk) 12:38, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
86. Support.--Vyom25 (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
87. Support Good Dedicated Contributor.See no concerns.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
88. Support - trustworthy editor. PhilKnight (talk) 17:14, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
89. Support An excellent candidate nominated by very well respected members of the community. Candidates attitude looks good, with more than adequate experience in a variety of areas. As has been noted, Experts on the Indian Sub-Continent would be a great asset to the En. Wikipedia admin corps. Good luck! Irondome (talk) 18:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
90. Support - I've noticed Titodutta around quite a few places recently; and I'm impressed by his work. After doing a quick examine of Tito's contributions and tone with other users, there's no concerns that I found - I think that Tito would be a great admin in many ways. Keep up all of the good work! :) -Fimatic ^{(talk | contribs)} 18:25, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Oppose I have concerns about the candidate's neutrality. His signature is literally flag-waving as it is styled to resemble the Indian flag. The GA which he claims — Swami Vivekananda — is literally a hagiography as its lead tells us that the subject is regarded as a "patriotic saint". The title of the article includes the honorific, Swami, and the candidate was among those arguing that this should be retained, contrary to our general practice. Among the sources listed, there's a revisionist work, Swami Vivekananda: A Reassessment. This seems to be a scholarly work, being published by a university press. It contains controversial material which might diminish the subject's reputation. For example, in his photo, the subject seems quite well fed. The book tells us that he was indeed fond of food and, as a child, organised a "Greedy Club" of gluttons (p.53). It goes on to say that the subject was not a vegetarian, as is common in the Brahmin priesthood, but even ate beef! There's plenty more in the book which might raise eyebrows but none of this material seems to appear in the article. The article was evaluated for FA status but failed on the ground that there were copyright concerns. Now, I understand that a lot of editors have had a finger in this pie, and maybe the candidate has just been going with the flow. But I expect high standards from an admin and, as nationalism and religion are common sources of dispute, it seems best to play it safe. Andrew D. (talk) 19:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

   Flag waving? Would you like to 'play safe' and have me desysoped if I put the red, white, and blue colours of the UK and Thai flags around my signature? Would you suggest that I am biased because I write articles about Thailand or bring articles about UK towns and schools to GA? I appreciate the extraordinary efforts you have taken to suggest Titodutta is not worthy of adminship due to his work bringing an article to GA standard, but I neither like the tone of it nor your rejection of Wikipedia's system of consensus. This article was created in 2002, Titodutta didn't come into it until June 2011 when it had already reached this envergure and then took it to GA. 3,885 revisions by 1,550 editors - did you examine every one of Titodutta's 600 edits on that page? ASFAICS, if there is anything wrong with the article then I suggest instead that you remonstrate with the GA reviewer - one of our most experienced GA reviewers and content providers. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:21, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

   But Kudpung doesn't have a national flag in his signature. When I look at all the other signatures in this RFA above, I don't notice any of them waving flags or otherwise declaring an allegiance. Our username policy forbids names which are overtly promotional by declaring themself to be representing a group. Putting a flag or other group logo in your signature seems to be violating the spirit of this policy. It is blatantly partisan and so seems quite improper for an admin who plans to police articles in this area. Andrew D. (talk) 08:46, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

   If you have any actual evidence that Tito has shown nationalist POV of the disruptive type that is quite common among new contributors then please present it; otherwise, I think you should probably apologise for the slur. For example, he gets on well with me and is very fair, whereas many nationalist Indians attack me simply because I am a Brit and therefore, in their eyes, a de facto remnant of the Raj.

   As for the subject was not a vegetarian, as is common in the Brahmin priesthood, but even ate beef, well, plenty of people who have claimed to be Brahmin have eaten beef but, in any event, Vivekananda was born to a Bengali Kayastha family, not a Brahmin one. Your source even acknowledges those Kayastha origins and points out that his claim was to be Kshatriya, not Brahmin. (You really should perhaps learn about sanskritisation if you're going to comment on Indian caste identities in the 19th and 20th centuries, but this apparent misunderstanding does explain why we need more admins with knowledge of matters relating to the Indian subcontinent generally.)

   Generally, and as pointed out by Kudpung above and Ad Orientem in the Support section, your "oppose" is flimsily based in fact, is primarily in the straight "content dispute" category, and seems almost contrarian by design. If I were you, I'd probably avoid Indian topics until I'd done some background reading and stick to the WP:ARS work that you do at present: that area seems likely to be a more natural home. - Sitush (talk) 03:54, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

   • I have more evidence but this was obtained by googling and so I am not sure of the propriety of presenting it — see this current Rfc. Andrew D. (talk) 08:46, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

   Andrew, we cannot insert much disputed/irrelevant thought on main pages, read Wikipedia:No original research#Neutral point of view, the third point. Swami Vivekananda is his common name, you will give up counting if someone would start naming those people whose common name include honorific title, in many cases it is also unsure if title is actually honorific. Bladesmulti (talk) 05:18, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

   • My forename is Andrew. This is a common Christian name, being a reference to Saint Andrew. Saint Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland and my father was Scottish. Now Saint Andrew, or the abbreviation St. Andrew, is the common name of this saint but notice that our article title does not contain the honorific - it's called Andrew the Apostle. The ruler of Scotland is now Queen Elizabeth but notice that her article does not contain the honorific, it's just plain Elizabeth II. That's what NPOV means — taking great pains to avoid flattering our subjects or presenting them in a promotional way. My !vote stands. Andrew D. (talk) 08:46, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

   <Admin hat on> Please do not Wikipedia:BADGER the opposer. Andrew D. is entitled to put forward his opinions, and to my knowledge, they do not violate any general or RfA specific policies or guidelines. This oppose will be taken into account by the closing WP:Bureaucrat. Commentators on this oppose, please consider not adding any further comments, or in the alternative add only conservative and moderate comments. --Shirt58 (talk) 12:21, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

   • I don't mean to badger Andrew D or question/challenge his !vote, but I want to respond to the examples of article titles he has brought up: Saint Peter is an article, Mahatma Gandhi contains an honorific - which are okay per WP:COMMONNAME, as is Swami Vivekananda. Elizabeth II is the result of Wikipedia's (rather strange?) policy on article titles for monarchs ("Article titles are not normally prefixed with "King", "Queen", "Emperor" or equivalent") and their consorts ("Living royal consorts are referred to by their present name and title") - thus it is Felipe VI of Spain, but Queen Letizia of Spain. FireflySixtySeven (talk) 12:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Neutral

1. The guy does not look bad, but someone adminning around their main area of editing does not sound too good. Best.OrangesRyellow (talk) 12:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
2. ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 17:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)