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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination.
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Unofficial criteria: LaPella's unwritten rules
- DYK evaluation includes:
- Length - The Article should contain at least 1,500 characters in main body text (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables). This is a mandatory minimum; in practice, articles having more than 1,500 characters of prose still may be rejected as too short, at the discretion of the selecting administrators.
- Verification - The DYK hook fact in the article needs an inline cite at the end of the sentence and the article in general should use inline, cited sources.
- Date - The new article should be no more than five days old and the expanded article should be expanded at least fivefold with new text within the last five days.
- Length
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- Lists: Proposed lists need 1,500+ characters of prose text. The listed items themselves are not counted as part the the 1,500 DYK qualifying characters
- Verification
- Suggested facts (the 'hook') should be:
- interesting to draw in a variety of readers,
- short and concise (fewer than about 200 characters, including spaces),
- neutral,
- definite facts that are mentioned in the article, and
- always cited in the article with an inline citation.
- Please note that hooks are subject without notice to copyediting as they move to the main page. The nature of the DYK process makes it impractical to consult users over every such edit. In particular, hooks will be shortened if they are deemed too long: the 200-character limit is an outside limit, not a recommended length. Also, watch the suggestions page to ensure that no issues have been raised about your hook, because if you do not respond to issues raised your hook may not be featured at all.
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- freely licensed suitably and freely (PD, GFDL, CC etc) licensed (NOT fair use) because the main page can only have freely licensed pictures;
- suitable, attractive, and interesting at a 100x100px-wide resolution;
- already in the article; and
- relevant to the article.
- Pictures: Pictures accompanying the DYK hook should be:
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- Sounds: Sounds accompanying the DYK hook should have similar qualities to pictures, and should be formatted using
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Candidate entries
Articles created/expanded on January 4
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Template:DYKsuggestion — RyanCross (talk) 01:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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Articles created/expanded on January 3
Template:DYKsuggestion at 05:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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Verified. Ref 3 checks out. — RyanCross (talk) 03:49, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- I suggest the following revision: ... that together with her mother, Polish resistance member Zofia Baniecka (pictured) saved over 50 Jewish families from the Holocaust between 1941–1944, hiding them in a Warsaw apartment?
However, it is unclear from the article whether it was 50 people or 50 families, the latter being what you imply here.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- I suggest the following revision: ... that together with her mother, Polish resistance member Zofia Baniecka (pictured) saved over 50 Jewish families from the Holocaust between 1941–1944, hiding them in a Warsaw apartment?
- The hook and the article speak of "over 50 Jews" i.e.: "numerous Jewish families → over 50 persons in total." Any suggestions? --Poeticbent talk 20:41, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Aha. I suggest then: ... that Polish resistance member Zofia Baniecka (pictured) and her mother hid over 50 Jews in their Warsaw apartment during the Holocaust between 1941 and 1944?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:55, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 18:40, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- If I can get Matt Smith to be eligible as a five-times expansion (tables don't count, I think), can we run this as a double hook? Sceptre (talk) 22:57, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Should have an en dash in the year range: Iraqi Partisan movement, 1979–1988. 71.145.128.146 (talk) 01:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Moved now. --Soman (talk) 09:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 17:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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Template:DYKsuggestion at 15:55, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
length OK however none of the refs actually use the phrase "political correctness gone mad" although they come close e.g. "there is this whole political correctness agenda" in the Daily Mail article (you can always trust the Mail to come up with that sort of comment) Nancy talk 16:03, 3 January 2009 (UTC)- Just wondering - if the point is that the school has changed its name should that not be reflected in the title of the article? Nancy talk 16:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've made the changes to remove the phrase "political correctness gone mad" and have moved the article to "Watercliffe Meadow". ISD (talk) 19:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- hook now supported by the references. Nancy talk 21:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that Jamaican athlete Usain Bolt (pictured) is the most recent recipient of the Overseas Personality award, part of the BBC Sports Personality of the Year? Chamal talk 13:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 10:36, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that radio station WLWI in Montgomery, Alabama, was co-founded in 1930 (as WSFA) by future governor of Alabama Gordon Persons? (another option, if you need balance one way or the other) - Dravecky (talk) 07:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 05:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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Template:DYKsuggestion at 05:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC) ALT1 ... that a bounty jumper, Adam Worth (pictured), became the inspiration for Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Moriarty?
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... that African American civil rights activist Mel Boozer was the first openly gay person nominated for the office of Vice President of the United States? - new article, self nom. Otto4711 (talk) 02:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that widespread economic crisis and food shortages resulted in several Summer 1981 hunger demonstrations in Poland, with the biggest one taking place in Lodz? Self nom by Tymek (talk) 01:46, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 01:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Wikilinked Morrissey and added the word "the" before "headliner." Otto4711 (talk) 02:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 00:37, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Paul Robeson's contract for the 1925 race film Body and Soul included a $100 per week salary plus three percent of the gross after the first $40,000 in receipts? (5x expansion, self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 03:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Verified. — RyanCross (talk) 06:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 2
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Did you really mean to use the word "park" 7 times? Art LaPella (talk) 07:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Combination of refs support: mainly [5], [10] and [14]. Ref formatting may need work, which I'll do soon. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:34, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that since Tommy James' 1971 single "Draggin' the Line" reached #4 on the Top 40 Mainstream chart, it has appeared on at least 41 separate albums and in numerous media works, from Austin Powers to a documentary on the pornographic film Deep Throat? New article, self nom by--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Heinrich Greinacher invented his voltage doubler circuit in 1913 because the 110 volt power supply in Zurich was insufficient for his newly invented ionometer which required 200 volts? self-nom new article (was redirect) by SpinningSpark 01:55, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- For the convenience of reviewers, the hook ref is available online here. I will create at least a stub for that redlink in the hook before it gets to the top of the queue. SpinningSpark 02:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ... that A. P. Patro (pictured) inaugurated the Loyola College in Chennai in 1925?-New article, self nom -RavichandarMy coffee shop 16:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Charles Hawksley was elected President of the Institution of Civil Engineers in 1901, exactly 30 years after his father, Thomas Hawksley, was elected to the position? - new article, self nom - Dumelow (talk) 16:22, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 15:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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NB. John Barnard Byles was created by me on January 3rd. Malick78 (talk) 16:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 10:26, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- I like it
but it is only 2200 characters. Please expand it.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 15:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Actually it's about 1780 characters, which is long enough according to criteria. Punkmorten (talk) 15:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- The first hook didn't work out, as the reference doesn't back up the claim 'nationalist' explicitly. proposal for a new hook: "that the Iraqi Democratic July 14 Movement tried to rally opponents of Saddam Hussein's Baathist government, recalling the legacy of the July 14 revolution of 1958?" --Soman (talk) 19:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- I like it
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Verified, offline hook reference accepted in good faith. AdjustShift (talk) 13:58, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Offline hook reference has also been verified. AdjustShift (talk) 14:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the 1981 warning strike in Poland was the biggest strike in the history of the Soviet Bloc, with 12 to 14 million participants? self-nom by Tymek (talk) 04:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 04:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Go for a triple: Zheng Xunyu + Wei Zhiyi + Wang Shuwen !!! --74.13.125.109 (talk) 16:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Since Wei Zhiyi is now complete, it's added to this nomination. Wang Shuwen will have to wait at least several more days, though, depending on my schedule, so not at the moment. --Nlu (talk) 03:15, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. --74.13.125.109 (talk) 07:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you. --Nlu (talk) 08:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Go for a triple: Zheng Xunyu + Wei Zhiyi + Wang Shuwen !!! --74.13.125.109 (talk) 16:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on January 1
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- ALT1: ... that Charles Leigh played six seasons as a National Football League running back despite never playing college football? Rlendog (talk) 02:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that running back Charles Leigh played six seasons in the National Football League without any previous training in college football? --74.13.125.109 (talk) 16:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Too short at 919 characters of prose. It needs 1500. The bracketed results could easily be spelled out. Punkmorten (talk) 10:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Article expanded per request. It should be enough to earn the DYK. Chris (talk) 15:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Now long enough and all that. Others may think that the hook should focus less on Gille and more on Zereske. Punkmorten (talk) 15:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- alt. hook ... that sprint canoer Thomas Zereske's life was dedicated by his former teammate Christian Gille's gold medal at the 2004 Summer Olympics in the C-2 1000 m event? Chris (talk) 21:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: "... the top three in only his fourth ..." Art LaPella (talk) 04:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 17:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Bolded subject; Reference Verified; Length verified Imperat§ r(Talk) 20:50, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm...maybe an alt of "... that the Nintendo DS video game Texas Hold 'Em Poker allows players to mimic certain nuances such as a player's tell? Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 20:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- I don't like the alt. It assumes the reader already knows the game. - Mgm|(talk) 11:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- commissioned in 1969 due to protests? decommissioned in 1972 due to protests? So confusing. --74.13.125.109 (talk) 07:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that Jeff Moronko had four at bats but no hits on his Major League Baseball debut? — RyanCross (talk) 04:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Verified. Either hook works. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 03:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
This took place on January 7, 1861, so January 7 would make the best date for this to be featured.--Gen. Bedford his Forest 03:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Need "American Civil War" in the hook. --74.13.125.109 (talk) 07:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Not really; the war wouldn't start for three months yet.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 07:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion. — RyanCross (talk) 02:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- The word "baseball" in there could be handy for those who aren't familiar. :) —97198 (talk) 13:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Verified. Feel free to insert "baseball" where you sit fit. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:33, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Done. Added "Major League Baseball player" instead. — RyanCross (talk) 01:59, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that there have been four head coaches for the Dallas Stars, an American professional ice hockey team based in Dallas, Texas? Self-nom, 5x expanded -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 02:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- There are better hooks available, if a bit of research is done to add a few sentences and references to this article. For example, general manager Bob Gainey fired himself as head coach in 1996. See here and here and here and here and here. - Dravecky (talk) 13:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- I will certainly add that into the article. I will make the alternate hook that I think you suggested after I finish adding the Bob Gainey firing himself sentence. Thanks and happy new year. -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 01:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)- Done adding it to the article. Below is the alternate hook. -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 02:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Done adding it to the article. Below is the alternate hook. -- signed by SRE.K.A
- I will certainly add that into the article. I will make the alternate hook that I think you suggested after I finish adding the Bob Gainey firing himself sentence. Thanks and happy new year. -- signed by SRE.K.A
- There are better hooks available, if a bit of research is done to add a few sentences and references to this article. For example, general manager Bob Gainey fired himself as head coach in 1996. See here and here and here and here and here. - Dravecky (talk) 13:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that in the middle of the 1995–96 National Hockey League season, Bob Gainey, who was the general manager and the head coach of the Dallas Stars, an American professional ice hockey team based in Dallas, Texas, fired himself as the head coach and replaced himself with Ken Hitchcock, who won the Stanley Cup with the Stars in the 1998–99 National Hockey League season? Kind of long, but can be shortened. -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 02:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- The inline cite for this statement in the article goes to an article which says Gainey fired himself as head coach in the 1995-96 season, not 1996-97. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, wrote the wrong season. -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 09:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Bob Gainey fired himself as head coach of the Dallas Stars in the middle of the 1995–96 National Hockey League season? - (the article explains he was also the team's general manager, the tiny bit of mystery in the hook will get more people to read this article) Dravecky (talk) 10:45, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Might as well mention that he was the only one not leave with a winning record. --74.13.125.109 (talk) 07:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think the hook looks better like this. -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 07:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think the hook looks better like this. -- signed by SRE.K.A
Template:DYKsuggestion. First nomination of the year for DYK! :-) — RyanCross (talk) 00:50, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- The word "baseball" in there could be handy for those who aren't familiar. :) —97198 (talk) 13:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Verified. Welcome to 2009 in DYK-land, Ryan! Ecoleetage (talk) 22:09, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for verifying, Ecoleetage. 97198, I've added a link. — RyanCross (talk) 02:02, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 22:32, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- AGF verified for Norwegian source. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 31
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Template:DYKsuggestion Cbl62 (talk) 21:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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* Oppose. The article is currently being addressed at AfD. Little Red Riding Hoodtalk 18:45, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- That should be imino acids, not amino acids. --74.13.125.109 (talk) 07:25, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that despite producing 123 mph (198 km/h) winds, rainfall from the 1941 Florida hurricane reached only 0.35 in (8.9 mm) at Miami, Florida? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:09, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 22:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Length and date good, Swedish language hook refs accepted in good faith. --Bruce1eetalk 13:19, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Why the weasel words "is said to have"? Either it did or it didn't. - Dravecky (talk) 05:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I've added the article creator from here. --Bruce1eetalk 13:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook ref verified. --Bruce1eetalk 13:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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Length, date (December 31), and hook (online ref) all verified. --IvoShandor (talk) 00:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that the American M47 bomb had a steel cover just 1/32 of an inch thick, causing it to leak when it carried sulfur mustard? --IvoShandor (talk) 00:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- The ALT is fine with me. VX!~~~ 03:20, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Hook is uncited in article. - Dravecky (talk) 13:14, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Sure it is, ref 12. I've added another too. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Great article but I'm still not finding a specific sentence with a citation that says what the hook says. The sentence cited by ref 12 appears only tangentially related. - Dravecky (talk) 10:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- The ref is supposed to cover the paragraph, not just the sentence. I have no opinion on whether it actually does. - Mgm|(talk) 11:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Did you know#Selection criteria "3. Cited hook" for how text must be cited for all Did You Know hooks. - Dravecky (talk) 11:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- All of the statements in the hook are directly and specifically cited in a reference in the article. In the particular case under discussion, the Globe and Mail, in reference 13, specifically states that the election was called as a direct result of the "in-and-out" scheme. Click here and see the second and third paragraphs. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Moved to mainspace date. ~EDDY (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 16:20, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this be 1963 Dahomey coup d'état instead? There was no country called "Benin" till 1975. --74.13.129.148 (talk) 14:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length and refs fine Victuallers (talk) 16:20, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that the 20-storey Gillender Building, built in 1897, was demolished only thirteen years later to make way for the 14 Wall Street? -- new, self nom NVO (talk) 14:47, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Date and length of the article OK, references accepted. Nsk92 (talk) 23:08, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Indianapolis claims Charles H. Black as the inventor of the first internal combustion engine automobile, although his vehicle's ignition called for a kerosene torch? - new, self-nom. by Xn4 (talk) 09:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- I have promotional and COI concerns. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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Articles created/expanded on December 30
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- alternate hook: ... that World Wrestling Federation referee Danny Davis was stripped of his referee duties and subsequently wrestled as "Dangerous" Danny Davis? — 5x expansion by User:GaryColemanFan (talk) Self nom at 22:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Source is fine. Quote checks out. It is using only one source, which should be changed to ensure that there is more diversity, however, right now there is not a problem because the source relies on a wide range of points of views and source material that are quoted through the single source. Perhaps some of the sources could be quoted directly (such as Houston Telegraph and Texas Register), but as of now there should not be a problem. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Sources seem to check out. Page is a little skimpy, but no problem. Barely meets the 1,500 character count, but still meets it. I would recommend a possible double nom with Henry V the Fat if someone can come up with one. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Although there is only one directly cited reference, there appears to be many references used for the page. The DYK hook is directly cited and is in a foreign language. AGF for it to contain the information that it is said to contain. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:45, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- He had a much more interesting life then that; could we use one of the other facts (battles, intrigues, imprisonment, etc.) for the hook instead? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 12:57, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- For sure, but it's about the most interesting thing that can be cited to the NDB (it's not that boring either, as fostering shows that his family had entered an intimate relationship with the Bohemian monarchs, which in turn sheds light on lots of the politics of the era). The rest is a translation of pl. wiki. If you could find a citation to a cooler fact, that'd be great! Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 14:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- See User talk:Ottava Rima#Odes for the mathematics behind the expansion. These numbers do not include any indented or blocked in numbers, so there should be no controversy. Any questions or concerns, please contact me or Mrathel directly. We are constantly expanding and working on the pages, so things may change. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:40, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Hook from the Gentleman's Magazine obituary checks out (p. 538 on the Google Books citation). Ottava Rima (talk) 21:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Information from Conifers of California accepted in good faith. Everything checks out. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- This isn't necessarily an unusual occurrence. Many Category 4 storms attain winds of or greater than 140 mph. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 14:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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- OR ... that according to legend, a tunnel leads from the Kamianets-Podilskyi Castle to the Khotyn Fortress which is 20 km (12 mi) away?
- An interesting article, but unfortunately completely ineligible for DYK. This is not a new article; in fact, the initial version of the article is dated February 2008. On Dec 31, 2008 the article had a slight extension, but it was far less than a fivefold expansion (not even two-fold) compared with its previous version, dated Dec 13, 2008. Sorry, but completely ineligible for DYK according to WP:DYK#DYK rules. Nsk92 (talk) 04:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. The article written in user space, and moved to main space here. "Unwritten" Rule D7. Art LaPella (talk) 05:05, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Please look at the full history log of the article. The article was initially created in mainspace on February 27, 2008[1] and was gradually expanded in mainspace over the next 9 months. Here is the diff[2] comparing the current version with the version of December 13, 2008. The fact that the revision provided in your diff was prepared in user space does not make this a new article (because a previous version of the article already existed in mainspace), nor does it make it a 5x+ expansion compared with the previous operative version of December 13, 2008. Nsk92 (talk) 05:34, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Oops, I take it back. I see that the article was moved from userspace into mainspace using an actual pagemove rather than traditional paste-in, so the history log portion I was looking at actually referred to the time when it was still a user subpage. So it does qualify as a new article. Nsk92 (talk) 05:43, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm, now I am really confused. I don't see anything relevant in the move log but I do see a creation of a brand new manual redirect from a user subpage to the mainspace article on Dec 31[3]. Could someone else please take a look at this and try to figure out what exactly is going on? Nsk92 (talk) 05:57, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I thought this is the move log, which shows a move, and therefore I thought the article's previous version couldn't have existed in main space or it would have prevented the move. A move automatically creates a redirect from the "from" page to the "to" page. But others are certainly welcome to look. Art LaPella (talk) 06:05, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I think you are right. I was looking for the record of this move by clicking on "View logs for this page" in the history page of the article itself, but for some reason the move does not show up there[4]. However, it does show in the log section for the Sandbox page, as you pointed out. So it seems that everything is Ok with the date of the article after all and that it was created in mainspace on Dec 31, 2008 and so the article is DYK eligible as a new article. Nsk92 (talk) 06:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- ALT2: ... that Ring of Fire handbell choir students from Tualatin Valley Junior Academy performed at both inaugurations of President George W. Bush in 2001 and 2005? Art LaPella (talk) 04:18, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Date, length, and verification all accounted for. However, the article has currently been prodded for deletion. Until this deletion issue is resolved, the DYK nom shouldn't pass. Terrakyte (talk) 03:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Prod tag was removed. Clear claim of notability and ample sources should make an AfD rather unlikely. Alansohn (talk) 23:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Prod removed. Everything accounted for. Terrakyte (talk) 12:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I know what both of these things are, and used them both, but other readers may not. May I suggest (ALT 1) *... that General Instrument's CP1600 microprocessor saw little use in its intended role in the PDP-11 minicomputer, but millions were produced for use in the Intellivision video game console? Alansohn (talk) 00:41, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I like it! Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- produce 10 kg per what? I don't believe the reactor will disappear after converting Pu... Maury Markowitz (talk) 21:06, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- There we go. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 21:07, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Note: Hook does not link to the article. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 19:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- That was corrected by Maury Markowitz. Art LaPella (talk) 21:50, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- Removed non-free image File:LifeOfHerOwn.jpg. Please see the rules above. --Bruce1eetalk 10:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Looks good. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 21:07, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- WTH is the "Breen office"? Do we have a relevant link; otherwise it should be explained? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnbod (talk • contribs) 15:12, 1 January 2009 UTC (UTC)
- I think it refers to the office of film censor Joseph I. Breen. I've added this link to the hook. --Bruce1eetalk 06:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Ready to go. MovieMadness (talk) 17:41, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the city of Constantinople was besieged three times in less than 35 years, namely in 1203, 1204 and 1235?
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Unfortunately, all of the articles are older than 5 days, and none have been expanded 5x in the last 5 days. Unless 5x expansion occurs, none of the articles can pass. Terrakyte (talk) 16:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
After re-examining the articles, I have determined that the level of expansion required is so great as to warrant an outright fail of the noms. Terrakyte (talk) 04:57, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that Willie McCartney replaced his father as manager of Heart of Midlothian F.C.? Jmorrison230582 (talk) 17:01, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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- The hook is too long at 222 characters. You need to reduce it to not more than 200. --Bruce1eetalk 11:21, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- Not sure exactly what to count but it should be around 195 now. Noodle snacks (talk) 11:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- That's fine. Expansion, date and hook ref verified. --Bruce1eetalk 11:59, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that there has never been a Canadian Idol finalist from Prince Edward Island nor the Canadian territories? New article, self-nom -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 00:53, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- "Canadian territories"? That's Canada! --74.13.125.109 (talk) 07:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Umm...yes, it is. -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 07:33, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Umm...yes, it is. -- signed by SRE.K.A
Expiring noms
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- Could a (small) article on SC Frankfurt 1880 be made? That would make the hook look better. Punkmorten (talk) 12:05, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'm planning to but it will have to wait a week or two the least, sadly, no time right now. The hook could be used then if not good enough now. EA210269 (talk) 12:39, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Unless the hook's grammar is a self-referential joke, I recommend a correction such as "... because of the grammatically incorrect title of the movie The Outlaws Is Coming? Art LaPella (talk) 08:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- OK, how about ALT1... that because of the grammatically incorrect title of the movie The Outlaws Is Coming, a number of English teachers expressed displeasure with Harlow Hickenlooper? Spy007au (talk) 09:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- Or ALT2 ... that Hal Fryar received a number of complaints from English teachers because he appeared in a movie with the grammatically incorrect title The Outlaws Is Coming? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 09:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I like this hook! Good enough for the next April Fools' Day special? --74.13.128.83 (talk) 02:17, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- Pity he didn't survive to the Second World War when he could have been matched against our no-legged pilot. SpinningSpark 14:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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- I can't find a ref in the article for the hook. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 20:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- ALT 1... that the Thimpu principles were put forward by Sri Lankan Tamil delegates at Thimpu, Bhutan? Taprobanus (talk) 04:32, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that Operations Parthenon, Boris, Finery, Shed and Plan Giralda were all British plans for military intervention in Zanzibar following the 1964 revolution? - new articles, self nom - Dumelow (talk) 18:22, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- All five articles check out for length, cites, and dates. - Dravecky (talk) 08:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- That image is weird, surely there is a better one somewhere, I will keep my eyes open for one. An alt follows.
- ALT1: ... that although the U.S. MC-1 chemical bomb was designed to fit the F-4 Phantom II, it could not fit that plane's successor, the F-16?
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- Dates and length good, offline cite accepted as AGF. - Dravecky (talk) 08:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Dates, length, and cite all good to go. - Dravecky (talk) 08:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that the Quick F**k cocktail shooter, named for shock value, is made using Midori liqueur and Baileys Irish Cream and is a form of Pousse-café? Cabe6403 (Talk•Sign!) 16:34, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Kinda fun, no doubt but the two refs aren't even describing the same drink. In addition, the "shock value" part isn't even sourced and is preceded by "appears", which is fancy English for "guess".--Wehwalt (talk) 16:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- On a closer look, there is no source to say that it is a form of pousse-cafe either. There are no references except for the ingredients, so the page might not actually make it through a deletion nomination in its current state. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:16, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Ref's fixed. Also, pousse-cafe is a form of drink where the ingredients are layered. Do we need a reference to source that steel is a form of metal? pousse cafe is simply the technical classification of a layered drink. Also, weasel words removed. Cabe6403 (Talk•Sign!) 21:34, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that according to Just Detention International, 67% of all LGBT people in prison report being assaulted? Bruce1eetalk 10:23, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Hook fact needs a direct inline citation, hook sentence and other parts of the articles need typo corrections. - Dravecky (talk) 07:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed. Please mention other typos I may have missed. MURGH disc. 10:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Before Colonel Warden started his expansion of the article on December 30, the article contained 546 characters of prose. Atm, it contains 2132, which is not a 5x expansion. The article needs to get to 2730 characters, at least, before this DYK nom can pass. Terrakyte (talk) 03:18, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- But if you move the article to December 28, it was a new article on that date, except for a redirect. Art LaPella (talk) 04:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, it wasn't clear to me whether the date was the start or end-point for the expansion. I'll move it to the date that Art suggests, if that's ok. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- The article only mentions this fact (the listing) in the reference without mentioning it in the prose. - Mgm|(talk) 13:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC) Made explicit as closing sentence, Mgm Victuallers (talk) 10:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC) <== reffed as well Victuallers (talk) 14:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Nubian Queen Kandake Amanitore (pictured) was buried in her own pyramid in Meroe?
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- ALT: ... that music critic Claude Rostand described Olivier Messiaen's Trois petites Liturgies de la Présence Divine as a "work of tinsel, false magnificence and pseudo-mysticism"? Hermione1980 18:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Alt hook without death dates: ... that Richard Martin who was Lord Mayor of London in 1589 and 1594 is not the same as Richard Martin (pictured) who was “thrashed” by the poet John Davies in the Hall of the Middle Temple in 1598? - PKM (talk) 18:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Alt hook 2 (shorter): ... that Richard Martin , Lord Mayor of London in 1589 and 1594, is not the Richard Martin (pictured) who was “thrashed” by the poet John Davies in the Hall of the Middle Temple in 1598? - PKM (talk) 21:33, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- ALT1:.. that the American E23 munition was made of cardboard?
- This alternate hook depends upon which hook is used for another of my suggestions below, the E14 munition. If the alternate about that munition being made of cardboard is used, then this one, obviously, should not be used, so make sure you check the archives before using this one. --IvoShandor (talk) 21:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
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- The reference doesn't cover the whole hook on its place in the article. I've asked Peter for clarification. - Mgm|(talk) 10:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- I've moved the reference two sentences down. Is that what was wanted? Regarding references at the end of each paragraph, I am following WP:SCG which states that references are not required for material that can be considered to be "common knowledge". The unreferenced parts of this article are covered in detail in the general references 2 and 3 and can also be found in many chemistry text-books at first-year University level. Petergans (talk) 11:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- suggest replacing ", Horton Kirby" by ", in Horton Kirby," or by ", in Horton Kirby, Kent,". Otherwise it seems ungrammatical to me. doncram (talk) 18:11, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Done! Mjroots (talk) 18:41, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Dates and length checkout good but the cited sentence mentions the mountains and the stained glass but not the birdsong. There is an uncited sentence later in the article that mentions birdsong but it is neither connected to the hook sentence nor referenced in any way. - Dravecky (talk) 09:26, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
E14 munition and possibly E86 cluster bomb
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- ALT1: ... that the American E14 munition was made of cardboard?--IvoShandor (talk) 11:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that after the American E86 cluster bomb was canceled its E14 sub-muntion was altered to deliver yellow fever mosquitoes and rat fleas?
- This alternate hook could go two ways, it could be a double hook, but you'd probably have to let E86 cluster bomb slide, because by my count its only about 1,480 characters, and I really don't think I can get any more out of it without being wordy and ridiculous. Unless someone else has another source, of course. Alternatively, this hook could be used without E86 cluster bomb bolded as one of the hook articles like so:
- ALT3:... that after the American E86 cluster bomb was canceled its E14 sub-muntion was altered to deliver yellow fever mosquitoes and rat fleas?
- --IvoShandor (talk) 13:15, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 10:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that there have been four managers for the Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays, a Major League Baseball franchise based in St. Petersburg, Florida? new article, self-nom -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 03:19, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Might as well mention that none of them has a winning record. BTW, the first three were actually managers for the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. --74.13.128.83 (talk) 14:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- How about this. Your suggestion is at the bottom. -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 16:31, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- How about this. Your suggestion is at the bottom. -- signed by SRE.K.A
ALT1 ... that all four of the managers for the Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays, a Major League Baseball franchise based in St. Petersburg, Florida, have never had a winning percentage with the (Devil) Rays? -- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 spell my name backwards at 16:31, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that none of the managers of the Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays, a Major League Baseball team based in St. Petersburg, Florida, has ever had a winning record with the team? - (still not quite perfect, but I think this is closer) Dravecky (talk) 21:48, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- 'ALT3 ... that the Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays, a Major League Baseball team located in St. Petersburg, Florida, has had a losing record under each of its four managers?--Wehwalt (talk) 02:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- The article itself doesn't state those people invented the tool. I've asked Neelix for clarification. - Mgm|(talk) 14:47, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- My original hook isn't going to work; the kayendo is unique to Basse Casamance, but not specifically to the island of Carabane. It's possible that it originated on the island, but that is not certain. Here is an alternate hook that would be more appropriate: Neelix (talk) 22:21, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Captain Aristide Protet was shot with a poisoned arrow on the island of Carabane, where he was subsequently buried standing up? (grave pictured)
Perhaps this would be better as a double nomination:
ALT2 ... that the Jola, the majority ethnic group in Carabane (scenery pictured), are very distinct from other major ethnic groups in Senegal by their language, egalitarian society, freedom from political hierarchy, and lack of slavery? Neelix (talk) 19:09, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Length, date, hook and citations OK. Changed "in the 1860 South" to "in the 1860 Southern United States" and "antebellum" to "antebellum" for the benefit of non-US readers. Sandstein 08:13, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Prehistoric evidence of... what? - Dravecky (talk) 09:13, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT1: ... that Gillfield Baptist Church, Virginia, the second oldest black congregation in Petersburg, in 1829 resisted a consolidation with the white congregation at Market Street Church? Parkwells (talk) 20:27, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Rev. Henry Williams, called in 1865 as the first black pastor at Gillfield Baptist Church, Virginia, since 1831, served until 1900 and also was elected to the Petersburg City Council?
- Art, I've found more material for the article and it's now over 2500 characters.--Parkwells (talk) 02:41, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 27
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- Length and date OK, but the citation is not properly formatted as {{cite web}}, and is moreover to a forum of a website that is itself of unclear reliability. That's not front page material, sorry. Sandstein 08:02, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
No problem; I have added a citation of book by same author I quoted from the forum. You now have a source that fulfills your reliability requirement.
FYI, http:www.theaerodrome.com's forum contains informative dialogue by the authors of the Osprey series of books about World War I aviation, as well as other experts on the subject. So long as I consider the individual, I can find reliable info in these forums, as well as leads to books. Admittedly, I also find much to question or ignore.
Georgejdorner (talk) 08:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Offline ref now present. Sandstein 10:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've done a bit of cleanup but this article still has lots of bare url references which must be cleaned up before this can pass to the front page. - Dravecky (talk) 04:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I think it's interesting that he lived in exile (from the nationalists) and fought in the Spanish Civil War. I would go with: " that East German communist Paul Verner (pictured) spent years in exile and fought as a volunteer in the International Brigades during the Spanish Civil War?" I might even leave out the International Brigades. I don't think most people know what that is. You could even say he fled the nationalists in Germany and fought against Franco's nationalist forces in Spain. Interesting article. A lot of interesting history in there. The intro needs to be expanded to summarize the rest of the article.ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:53, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think 'spent years in exile' is a good addition. I think we should keep International Brigades in the hook though, its rather notable. I have expanded the intro somewhat now. --Soman (talk) 08:45, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- what about: ... that Paul Verner (pictured) fled Germany's nationalists and fought as a volunteer in the International Brigades during the Spanish Civil War?
- My worry is that saying East German is strange since we're talking about what is now Germany and what was Germany when he was fighting for Spain. Eastern Germany was inbetween. Can't they read the article to find out that he was an East German politician? I'm okay with adding he's a socialist too, although the "International" birgades is a bit of a tip off. Plus I like people going to the article to learn more. What do you think? Am I over complicating matters? My hook would need to be wikified properly. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- International Brigades is a relevant fact, and a wellknown unit in the war. As per East Germany, Verner had his political career and became notable in the GDR. --Soman (talk) 15:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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I like the hook. Short and catchy. I also think it's notable that all six emperor names end in zong. What are the odds on that? :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- -zong is commonly used in the Temple name of Chinese emperors. May I suggest not showing the word "Emperor" six times? --74.13.128.83 (talk) 14:31, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- OK, let's change it to ...
- ... that the Tang Dynasty official Zhao Zongru served under six emperors—Emperors Dezong, Shunzong, Xianzong, Muzong, Jingzong, and Wenzong? --Nlu (talk) 04:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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- This hook seems a little long and complicated. Are you trying to key in on the impact the uprising had in undermining Polish unity and opposition to the partition? Because if not, saying ... that the slaughter of Polish nobles in a peasant uprising in 1846 became known as the Galician slaughter? works for me and is quite a bit simpler. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:42, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- I think that the fact that it was encouraged by the Austrian government in order to weaken the anti-government nobility is the most interesting.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 12:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 26
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- The fight over the women and the incident where four shepherds killed an undetermined number of aborigines (is it 6, 30, or "about 30"?) are not the same incident in the article nor is the hook fact clearly stated in a coherent way in the article. - Dravecky (talk) 08:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- The fight over the woman was what sparked (caused) the massacre a few months later. The first sentence of the "Massacre" section of the article states that 30 aborigines were killed, and this is backed up by reference 7. --Bruce1eetalk 08:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- I am the writer of the article. Bruce Lee is correct. The fight over use/abuse of aboriginal women is what caused an escalation of violence leading to a massacre of 30 aborigines. The generally accepted view of most historians familiar with this incident (see Historical skepticism section) is that George Augustus Robinson's account that 30 people were killed in the massacre is accurate, this being an estimate based upon his investigation. One controversial historian disputes Robinson's account and estimate of number killed. I have detailed this in the Historical skepticism section to ensue the article has a neutral POV.--Takver (talk) 09:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- I have clarified the first paragraph in the article to state over 30 aborigines attacked, 30 killed, an unknown number escaping.--Takver (talk) 10:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, but my question about the timeline and the direct connection of the "fight over women" still stands. The article says the incident with the women took place in December 1827 and one aborigine was shot dead. Then at some point later, the tribe drove a flock of sheep over a cliff. Then in February, a "punitive expedition killed twelve Aborigines in response." Only after that do we get to the massacre but the detail emphasized is how the bodies were thrown over the same cliff the sheep had been driven over—making it seem far more about the sheep than the aboriginal women. I don't doubt that these events took place as described it's just that the article doesn't clearly and directly connect the original fight over the women to the massacre, rather it makes the massacre seem a bloody escalation in an terrible, ongoing genocide. - Dravecky (talk) 18:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- But the events are connected. Reference 7, under the heading "Cape Grim Massacre", describes the sequence of events, beginning with the molestation of the aboriginal women and ending with the massacre of the 30 aborigines. --Bruce1eetalk 07:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, but my question about the timeline and the direct connection of the "fight over women" still stands. The article says the incident with the women took place in December 1827 and one aborigine was shot dead. Then at some point later, the tribe drove a flock of sheep over a cliff. Then in February, a "punitive expedition killed twelve Aborigines in response." Only after that do we get to the massacre but the detail emphasized is how the bodies were thrown over the same cliff the sheep had been driven over—making it seem far more about the sheep than the aboriginal women. I don't doubt that these events took place as described it's just that the article doesn't clearly and directly connect the original fight over the women to the massacre, rather it makes the massacre seem a bloody escalation in an terrible, ongoing genocide. - Dravecky (talk) 18:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- I have clarified the first paragraph in the article to state over 30 aborigines attacked, 30 killed, an unknown number escaping.--Takver (talk) 10:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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- I think a tweak may be needed because four is a lot in "two brief appearances" and the "only" seems to minimize the achievement. In fact I would suggest (ALT 1)... that baseball player Esix Snead had 507 stolen bases in nine minor league seasons and four more in two brief appearances in the major leagues with the New York Mets? Four is a lot in two appearances, but he's no Mookie Wilson. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- I was trying to emphasize that he had a very substantial number of stolen bases in the minors, but never really made it as a major leaguer. The "but only" was intended in comparison to the number stolen in the minors not to minimize stealing 4 bases in 18 major league games, which would be about 35 in a full 162-game season. I wonder if "and" instead of "but only" loses that hookiness? Alansohn (talk) 21:58, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- How about something like (ALT 2)... that baseball player Esix Snead had 507 stolen bases in nine minor league seasons compared with four in two brief appearances in the major leagues with the New York Mets? faithless (speak) 23:23, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- That captures more of what I was looking for, but how about reversing it as (ALT 3)... that baseball player Esix Snead had four stolen bases in two brief appearances in the major leagues with the New York Mets, but stole 507 bases in nine minor-league seasons? Alansohn (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that switching them around makes it read better. I do have a minor quibble, though; the word "but" still makes it read as though we're passing some sort of judgment on his accomplishments, IMHO. To me it reads like, "...Snead wasn't very good in the majors, but he did really well in the minors!" I think using "compared to" takes our opinion out of it entirely and lets the reader make up their own mind (lets them make the comparison for themselves, if you will). So my suggestion would be (ALT 4) ... that baseball player Esix Snead had four stolen bases in two brief appearances in the major leagues with the New York Mets compared to 507 in nine minor-league seasons? faithless (speak) 19:33, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
<outdent> I'm a little confused. The original hook says 4 stolen bases in 2 brief appearances. Then there is mention of 18 games? How many games did he play in? If he stole 4 bases in 2 appearances I don't see a quibble, I think we just go with the original hook and replace the word "but" with the word "and". It's clear he didn't make it in the majors if he's only had 2 appearances. Isn't the whole point that he's notable for a zillion minor league and a few in the major league, why are we but-butting? I would also take out the word brief. Why were his appearances brief? The original hook is fine assuming he had 2 appearances, we just replace but with and. We don't have to explain why his career in the majors was short. People can read the article.ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I guess the question is what is meant by "appearances". Snead was called up to the majors twice, getting into 17 games the first time and one the 2nd. Appearances here doesn't (or shouldn't, anyway) mean games played. But I am not sure that the number of call ups to the majors he had is really relevant to the hook. So it seems to me that the following would appropriately contrast his major and minor league stolen base record without introducing confusion as to what is meant by "appearances", because 4 stolen bases in 2 games would be a lot: (ALT 5)... that baseball player Esix Snead stole 507 bases in the minor-leagues but had just four stolen bases in the major leagues? Or else maybe something like: (ALT 6)... that baseball player Esix Snead had four stolen bases in 18 major league games, but stole 507 bases in nine minor-league seasons? Rlendog (talk) 06:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
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- ALT 1: ... that Johannes Scherg was awarded the Knight's Cross in October 1943 for his command of the 1st Company, 4th SS Panzer Reconnaissance Battalion during fights in Greece and Romania in World War II? - Mgm|(talk) 14:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Article length, date, and hooks' length check out, but what make either of the two sources used reliable? In addition, the sources should have last access dates and publishers in their citations. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- ... that rugby union players Keith Wood and his father Gordon both played for four of the same teams – Garryowen, Munster, Ireland and the British Lions (top level teams in their sport)? Djln--Djln (talk) 01:21, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- Bold the name of the article in the hook! mynameinc 03:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- I bolded it for him, but the article is only expanded about threefold, not fivefold. Please see #Instructions. Art LaPella (talk) 04:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that rugby union players Gordon Wood and his son Keith both played for four of the same teams – (rearranged to emphasize the hook article) - Dravecky (talk) 08:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 21:14, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, the hook is not properly cited per DYK standards. - Dravecky (talk) 08:57, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:12, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
- Checks out OK, but the fact is this hook is a bit ad-ish. Could we just focus on it being a test-prep game? Is this unusual enough? Daniel Case (talk) 05:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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- WP:COMMA refers to the Comma article, whose "In geographical names" paragraph prescribes a comma after "Ohio" (which I have already added once). In the past, that guideline has been more popular at WP:ERRORS than on this page. Art LaPella (talk) 05:29, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- So that's how the comma got there? I removed it because I thought it was a typo that I had made. Well, if that's the accepted pattern, no complaints; I've restored it. Thanks for explaining. Nyttend (talk) 21:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- That comma looks ridiculous. Can we immediately reach consensus that random commas that serve no purpose aren't a good idea and revise the guideline? ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:42, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- I would love it if we can reach a consensus, any consensus, at WP:COMMA or Talk:Comma, or even that this particular sentence is an exception. Just tell me what the rule is, so I can apply it. At the moment, the best indication of a consensus is that WP:COMMA is in the Manual of Style. [5] may also be helpful. Art LaPella (talk) 06:01, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- That comma looks ridiculous. Can we immediately reach consensus that random commas that serve no purpose aren't a good idea and revise the guideline? ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:42, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that the Southworth House has been a retirement home, a fraternity house, and an office building in Cleveland, Ohio? --74.13.128.83 (talk) 14:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- I don't like the comma either. I prefer the alternate hook to get rid of the comma :-) Nyttend (talk) 15:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
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- ALT: ... that some members of the fungal family Orbiliaceae can lasso nematodes using outgrowths of their hyphae? Sasata (talk) 16:08, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- The ALT is great. I don't even think lasso needs to be in quotes. Isn't that exactly what lasso means? I have to go read the article to find out more... good job! ChildofMidnight (talk) 08:55, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Upon inspection I notice the lasso claim is uncited and seems a bit of a stretch (it's perhaps not exactly a lasso action). I think a cited bit supporting a carniverous fungi DYK hook would be just fine. ChildofMidnight (talk) 09:08, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've added another (online) citation (+ link to PDF of article) for the lasso action, and removed quotes from hook. Sasata (talk) 17:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- The citation does use the word lasso to describe the ring swelling action that traps prey (one of five methods) these nifty fungi use. It doesn't meet my definition of a lasso action (where's the throw?) but if you don't think carniverous fungi is exciting enough, I can live with it. :) Also, the introduction should be expanded to reflect teh article contents. It's kind of short.ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:55, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've added another sentence so the lead section should be proportional to the length of the article. BTW, I did think the original hook was exciting enough, I added the ALT to satisfy another DYK editor who didn't think it was :) Cheers Sasata (talk) 17:26, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- The citation does use the word lasso to describe the ring swelling action that traps prey (one of five methods) these nifty fungi use. It doesn't meet my definition of a lasso action (where's the throw?) but if you don't think carniverous fungi is exciting enough, I can live with it. :) Also, the introduction should be expanded to reflect teh article contents. It's kind of short.ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:55, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've added another (online) citation (+ link to PDF of article) for the lasso action, and removed quotes from hook. Sasata (talk) 17:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that some members of the fungal family Orbiliaceae can lasso nematodes using outgrowths of their hyphae? Sasata (talk) 16:08, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
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- The second hook is better: you cannot use a guesswork as a hook in "DYK": it must be a fact. `'Míkka>t 20:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
- Biased article, lot's of WP:SYN.DonaldDuck (talk) 10:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- Please explain your grievances on talk first. Majority of content is well referenced (and your recent additions are unreferenced, and removals, unexplained...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 12:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- It would be better to use: ... that one of Russia's most famous writers, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, was a proponent of the Russian autocracy? --Admiral Norton (talk) 17:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've fixed the link to Fyodor Dostoyevsky and the double redirect at Russian autocracy. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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- The source doesn't make it quite clear to me that Jefferson was responsible. It says McMahon was entrusted with the seeds, and then "Jefferson insisted that these new discoveries were the property of the expedition and of the federal government, so McMahon was forced, perhaps rightfully so, to grow these novelties under restriction in a quarantine-like situation." But this seems compatible with the reading that once he'd been given the seeds, Jefferson set the quarantine requirement on him. It's possible I've missed something from another part of the source, though. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I had thought "Beginning in 1806 McMahon was trusted with seeds and plants collected from the Lewis and Clark expedition" would be direct enough: I've added a second Monticello reference that also contains the statement. If the source didn't quite make it clear, perhaps the link wasn't clicked on; footnote text highlighted in purple can be clicked on to read on-line text, which is an intrinsic part of the footnote. --Wetman (talk) 14:37, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I did go to the link and the sentence you quote is clear - the only problem is the latter doesn't mention Jefferson. Could you point out where it says that it was Jefferson who was responsible for assigning McMahon the duty, please? (It's possible I'm missing it because I'm tired - I will go to sleep soon and come back to this next year!) Olaf Davis (talk) 23:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Suggest adding ", as it proved, " before premature.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Length, date, and verification a-ok. However, I don't feel the hook would be interesting to many people who don't know how much of an accomplishment 38 doctoral dissertations is. How about:
- ALT1: ... that classical scholar Hendrik Wagenvoort directed 38 doctoral dissertations during his career, an unusually high number in the field of classical studies? Terrakyte (talk) 04:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'm concerned not only that this is a single-sourced article but that it appears from the reference to have been written by the subject. - Dravecky (talk) 08:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 24
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- If this is unusual (and it might arguably be), we need to find a way to explain why. Daniel Case (talk) 21:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Reworded.Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 22:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the Irish Independent praised the "scattergun screech" of Dirty Epics vocalist Sarah Jane Wai O'Flynn? (new article, self-nom) --➨♀♂Candlewicke ST # :) 20:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
- The article doesn't say what the Irish Independent's opinion of the band was. The reference and the hook does – I think the article just needs to be tweaked a little. --Bruce1eetalk 13:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Length and date are OK, and the article is interesting, but I strongly recommend writing another hook. The current hook is incomprehensible (and hence uninteresting) to me as a layperson because I don't know what the Darjah Utama Temasek and the Sijil Kemuliaan are, or what an "achievement" of a coat of arms is (presumably heraldic jargon?). Also, the verb "uses" is in the singular despite having two subjects; it should be in the plural ("use"). Maybe the following would work?
- "... that the Singapore coat of arms is reproduced in full on two national awards, the Darjah Utama Temasek and Sijil Kemuliaan?"
- But that doesn't sound like a very interesting fact, either. (And the article would have to be adopted accordingly.) Sandstein 20:17, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- What would you suggest? What stands out in your mind? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe: "... that only the government of Singapore is allowed to use the coat of arms of Singapore (pictured)?" That would need an inline citation in the article. Sandstein 17:06, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- What would you suggest? What stands out in your mind? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that the tiger in the Coat of arms of Singapore (pictured) represents Malaysia? [No inline citations yet, but this should be easily fixed.] --74.13.125.109 (talk) 07:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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- Sounds a bit like an ad to me, and I can't seem to find where this statement is explictly made and cited in the article. Daniel Case (talk) 04:58, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the ball in the video game I Love Katamari can be rolled by tilting the iPhone/iPod Touch in the direction the player wants the ball to go? MuZemike (talk) 00:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- Based on Apple's advertising, that's how practically all of the games on these models are controlled. It's about as remarkable as "this Atari 2600 game uses a joystick controller" and as much as I'd like to promote this it needs a better hook. - Dravecky (talk) 18:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the ball in the video game I Love Katamari can be rolled by tilting the iPhone/iPod Touch in the direction the player wants the ball to go? MuZemike (talk) 00:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- ... that while the objects on the Farnese Artemis (pictured) had initially been identified as female breasts, the museum housing the statue now claims that they depict bull scrotums?
- ... that in the history of fisheries in the Philippines, the once-dominant local municipal fisheries were supplanted first by commercial fisheries, and then by aquaculture?
- ... that Eliza Legzdina has attributed opinions of her work to the "horrification of the female body"?
- ... that the center squeeze has been blamed for costing Gary Johnson the 2016 US election?
- ... that voice actress Atsuko Tanaka often named pandas?
- ... that seven people died when their helicopter struck supporting wires of a Texas TV station's tower and crashed?
- ... that Michael P. Walsh oversaw the construction of 15 buildings as the president of Boston College?
- ... that Jer Lau, who appeared in the film Over My Dead Body, also performed its theme song because the director felt his role was too minor?
- ... that the search for mammals on Booby Island was a bust?
- ... that because the capital of the Gambia is on a small island, its population has overflowed into Serekunda (pictured) in the nearby municipality of Kanifing?
- ... that Nancy S. Steinhardt completed her doctorate on medieval Chinese architecture before she was able to see any in person?
- ... that much of Archcliffe Fort was demolished in the 1920s to allow for expansion of a railway?
- ... that Alfred Sully, who led US forces during the Sioux Wars, was married to a Yankton Sioux woman?
- ... that The Right and the Wrong was the first feature film produced natively in Trinidad and Tobago?
- ... that a 23-day CBC strike thrust Don Goodwin into the Canadian national spotlight and into "folk-hero status"?
- ... that the lyric video for an Olivia Rodrigo song included a teaser that she would tour in support of her album Guts before one was actually announced?
- ... that the Cosmere Roleplaying Game surpassed Frosthaven to become the most-funded tabletop game on Kickstarter in August 2024?
- ... that "Honest Ike" stole more than $200,000 from the Alabama treasury?
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- ... that Maximiliano Hernández Martínez (pictured) believed that hanging colored lights across San Salvador would cure a smallpox epidemic?
- ... that a lane behind a tenement in Edinburgh is decorated as a Wild West town?
- ... that a German pastor let a deposed East German Head of State stay in his house?
- ... that the 2024 American remake of Have I Got News for You has something that the original show dispensed with in 2002?
- ... that when guitarist Pete Wade was 19, he moved to Nashville with $3, his suitcase, two ham sandwiches, and the telephone numbers of Don Helms and Jerry Rivers?
- ... that a tornado near Chicago had more than four times the helicity that it needed?
- ... that Victoria Siddall is the first woman to be appointed the director of the 168-year-old National Portrait Gallery in London?
- ... that North Korean series The Taehongdang Party Secretary was created to help promote the consumption of potatoes during a rice shortage?
- ... that a baby penguin from Australia is "an absolute unit"?
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- ... that the first silver dollars of the Republic of China were crudely-designed mementos (pictured)?
- ... that the Haitian Revolution began when Cécile Fatiman sacrificed a black pig, a ritual which was later repeated by Haitians resisting the United States occupation and the Duvalier dynasty?
- ... that a shark cost a competitor a silver medal in the spearfishing event at the 2014 Micronesian Games?
- ... that the noken system used for voting in parts of Indonesia produces turnouts of 100%?
- ... that Deep Cut Gardens in New Jersey contains a stone replica of Mount Vesuvius that once erupted smoke at the behest of mobster Vito Genovese?
- ... that novelist Sue Monk Kidd spent fourteen months researching New Testament–era Egypt and the Levant for The Book of Longings?
- ... that the first art exhibition in the Trade Fair Palace after it was rebuilt from a fire was named Like a phoenix?
- ... that following the success of Jools Lebron's "demure" videos, she stated that she was able to use the proceeds to pay for her gender transition - only for someone else to trademark it?
- ... that in 1888, a sensational story claimed that a British scientist, James Wickham, introduced two whales to the Great Salt Lake in an attempt to start a whale oil industry?
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