User talk:Gerda Arendt
Did you know ...
... that Anna Korsun,
a composer who studied in Kyiv and Munich,
and teaches in Amsterdam,
was awarded a scholarship at
the Villa Massimo in Rome in 2018?
... that the 1711 Missa Sanctae Caeciliae,
the first composition by Jan Dismas Zelenka,
who had come from Prague
to play in the Dresden court orchestra,
is a 45-minute mass?
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2022 · in friendship
Welcome 2022! - more to come here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
2022 talk begins at #2022 in Freundschaft, 2022 images (my calender pics, new year's resolution "in friendship" and musical events) begin here, and the 2022 diary (my own pictures of places, songs, food, flowers ...) begins here, - just watch if you are interested.
My motto for 2022 is taken from In Freundschaft, an article about a composition by Karlheinz Stockhausen, written by missed Jerome Kohl with whom I often exchanged thoughts in friendship. With great help from friends, it became a GA last year, and I translated it to German on 1 January this year.
While garden was a key topic last year, I want to focus on songs in 2022, beginning with Allein Gott in der Höh sei Ehr, in memory of Erhard Egidi. Other topics are ongoing, and I began to mark groups on my user page. I love collaboration, which also shows there. Just check 2021 for the amazing number of users who began articles we expanded. Thanks also to reviewers, and I do plan to review more and write less, and in writing, focus more on quality than the little daily article, which was a pleasant sport for five years, but not so much in the name of WP:QAI - article improvement. Below I keep - for now - some entries from last year, those related to friendship. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
My talk goes like this: on top there's the latest DYK (Elena Guseva as I write this, will change to Die ersten Menschen tomorrow); next to the TOC are boxes from my life, one for the month (with a pic I took last year, and songs), one for those remembered (Georg Christoph Biller and Heinz Werner Zimmermann now, name bold when on the Main page as Recent deaths that day, but that was yesterday), one for the last concert or opera heard (student concert), one for experience related to the DYK (if there is one, name bold, now Die tote Stadt), one for the last church, with songs (Las Palmas, on vacation, with stylised palm trees for columns). They usually go backwards in time, so yesterdays concert first, last year's opera last.
I archive from time to time, trying to leave no more than 50 discussions at a time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Then, Die ersten Menschen was on DYK, with Oper Frankfurt where it was premiered, with home church St. Martin, Idstein. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Valentine's Day edition, with spring flowers and plenty of music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
27 Feb: Prayer for Ukraine - in memory of Christian Herwartz who held peace prayers, of Antonietta Stella who portrayed Verdi's suffering ladies, and of Jerome after his 10th anniversary of Precious. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
2021
DYK for Jerome Kohl
On 28 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jerome Kohl, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jerome Kohl, a music theorist of the University of Washington, was recognized internationally as an authority on the composer Karlheinz Stockhausen, publishing a book on his Zeitmaße in 2017? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jerome Kohl. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jerome Kohl), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- This is wonderful. Well-deserved award. :)
- Peace forever, Jerry. Antandrus (talk) 00:47, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- Friends, you made me cry.
Luigi Nono and Stockhausen at the Darmstädter Ferienkurse |
In Freundschaft
Did you know ...
... that Jerome Kohl,
a music theorist of the University of Washington,
was recognized internationally
as an authority on the composer Karlheinz Stockhausen,
publishing a book on his
Zeitmaße in 2017?
- I looked up to Jerome from the day he came in my life (in 2009, telling me that was a reliable source said about Stockhausen was wrong, - it's still on the talk of Siegfried Palm, my second article), and I imagine our conversations - thoughtful, on a meadow - as pictured, in the spirit of Stockhausen's wonderful titles: In Freundschaft, Kontakte, Originale, Licht ... We never met. We edit-warred over Wittener Tage für neue Kammermusik and Georg Katzer, but always with respect. (If you want a tedious task, change the now deprecated parenthetical references, in hundreds of articles.) We worked together on many other. He thanked me for links to performers of Stockhausen's music, and I tried to mention their relation to the composer on the Main page, see Wolfgang Marschner (intentionally in memory), and before.
- Jerome remains an inspiration, for the world. I will remember what he wrote (about Karlheinz Stockhausen and William Waterhouse (bassoonist) who died within a few weeks in 2011, and Stockhausen had just acknowledged WW for a memorial book): "I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
- A beautiful bouquet of flowers to celebrate the memory of a special person. Well done Gerda. MarnetteD|Talk 17:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
RexxS
this user misses Flyer22 Frozen |
this user misses RexxS
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Thank you for Wikipedia:Colons and asterisks, User:RexxS/Infobox factors, and the precious anniversary template that I use every day. I heard my song of defiance yesterday, and Ich lasse dich nicht, du segnest mich denn, BWV 157 (I will not let you go ...) - dance music for a funeral - but let go. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
what we'll miss --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
for context: User talk:Hammersoft#Precious anniversary (archived here), or: before going to arbcom, try person-to-person talk, and then you hopefully don't have to go to arbcom - caution, long, in a nutshell (Hammersoft, 24 Feb, bolding by me):
I have a much simpler guide to arbitration. After spending many months working on it, cutting a word here, finessing a phrase there, I finally arrived at the final version. Here it is, the Ultimate Guide to Arbitration: Don't.
Don't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Today's little tribute: Vertraut den neuen Wegen - trust the new ways. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
... last line: Das Land ist hell und weit. The land is bright and wide. (written in 1989 in Germany's East, when it was dark and narrow.) Trust the new ways. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- , me too!! Atsme 💬 📧 18:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Ich lasse dich nicht, du segnest mich denn, BWV 157 is now a GA, thanks to Dr. Blofeld who began it in 2012, Nikkimaria who expanded it in 2013, and Kyle Peake who reviewed it. - I like collaboration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
(copied from a user talk)
... I'd add User:RexxS/Infobox factors to the essays about accessibility. I miss him... We have a RfC for Peter Sellers, and a reverted infobox (not a good one I admit, but a good one was suggested in 2012) for Cosima Wagner, and in both cases users could just have looked up his essay, instead of saying that once upon a time some "principal authors" said that an accessibility feature was not wanted for "their" FA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
DYK for La Passion selon Sade
Vanamonde (Talk) 00:02, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
From an archived thread: Br'er Rabbit, RexxS, LouisAlain, you are my friends, and I am sure that Wikipedia would be better with you than without you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
LouisAlain, this article is dedicated to you! Scandal seems to fit better than a hymn ;) I miss your inspiration, translation of cultural topics you found in obscure corners, good spirits, thankful heart. Thank you for literary context from Kafka to Schopenhauer. You others: please give me some of any of these because I thrive on them. I believe it's a scandal that we found no constructive way of collaboration, - I felt so talking in vain in the AN thread. Au revoir, and for a hymn after all, there's Möge die Straße uns zusammenführen, and telling you and myself: "go on with life, have a laugh, don't get too upset". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation has been accepted
scope_creepTalk 11:25, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
similarly:
- Sergej Tcherepanov - scope_creepTalk 11:32, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Margarethe Düren - DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:50, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, that's another one by LouisAlain saved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hedwig Hillengaß - >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 12:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- thank you, another one by LouisAlain saved --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
With love from Paris
Hallo Gerda and thanks for completing drafts I involuntarily left behind. Still active on the French Wiki although at a much slower pace than before. Like the Olympics in 1900, the aim and values were praise worthy then and now... I still have fun translating articles from German and English under I.P though, the attribution issue being now completely meaningless.
I post this message from a Parisian cybercafe so if any well meant sysop wants to delete it and block the E.P, who cares ?
I wish you well. LouisAlain.
- Thank you, I love love. Just returned from a concert with mostly French organ music played by the new one at the Boni, details above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:49, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
DYK for In Freundschaft
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
In Freundschaft - let's live it, in memory of Jerome Kohl. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Q to Beeblebrox
Hi Gerda, sorry to be a pain in the tail but I reverted this good faith edit because it didn't ask a question. As you can see from the relevant case page, I recommended that Arbcom decline the case and thought that RexxS exhibited no more than mild incivility, that was running rampant throughout the world during the start of COVID, and I agree with SV's comment " I want to add that he is one of the most genuinely kind editors I've had the pleasure to encounter. You may not get fake politeness from him, but you have found a friend if you ever need one." which I can wholeheartedly endorse from personal experience having met him in the pub several times. It would be nice to see if somebody can suggest a constructive action that has a reasonable chance of RexxS returning and contributing to Wikipedia, but I don't think that's it. Sorry. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:40, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Ritchie, I don't think you understood. I wanted to know from Beeblebrox if the next time an appeal such as Sarah's - "every editor is a human being" - came around (regardless which case) he would listen. I don't know if he didn't see that appeal then, or saw it but it didn't change things for him. I thought that was clear without a question mark, also that without an answer, I'd not vote for him, or any other who accepted the case, before or after Sarah pleaded, because even arbs may change their mind and should follow the complete request discussion. The relevant discussion happened on Hammersoft's page, urging the one who filed the case to withdraw it, but - as we know - in vain. How may I word my censored question? I want arb's who listen to people like Sarah (knowing that there's no one like her), probably women ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- I would go with "You accepted the RexxS arbitration case, despite many users including SarahSV suggesting it should be declined, not least because "every editor is a human being". Can you explain how it is acceptable to take action that causes long-term editors to quit the project, and what we might to do mitigate this?" Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- That could be your question ;) - I want only Sarah's, not the others, to keep things "übersichtlich" for someone (unfamiliar with the case, and again, it's not about that particular case) who wants to put the candidate's answer in context (and would have to read only one, not the others). - Let me think a bit, first I have other things to do. My design was to ask candidates not involved in that case: Would you have listened to SarahSV's appeal to decline the case? (with a link), but its a silly question for someone who obviously didn't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- How is this?: "You accepted the RexxS case. I would have listened to SarahSV. In a similar situation, would you perhaps change your mind?" (see also User:Gerda Arendt/ACE 2021) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, that looks fine. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:31, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Today, the TFA mentions When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd, created by a QAI member who was banned, the article taken to GA afterwards. Aga Mikolaj was created by banned friend LouisAlain who made the mistake to try to defend himself, which made things worse. RexxS has been criticised for not defending himself (in the arb case that I believe should not have been accepted, and that SlimVirgin pleaded not to accept), but I followed his model (better than falling in the other trap, not really versed in the language, misunderstanding ...). Think about the arb candidates' answers, you all. Some would not listen to SlimVirgin, so probably not to Littleolive oil who defended? ... not to valereee who said an apology worked for her? ... so perhaps not to women in general? I am happy that Opabinia regalis is standing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, that looks fine. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:31, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- I would go with "You accepted the RexxS arbitration case, despite many users including SarahSV suggesting it should be declined, not least because "every editor is a human being". Can you explain how it is acceptable to take action that causes long-term editors to quit the project, and what we might to do mitigate this?" Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
TFA Gianni Schicchi
Scene of the will reading |
Gianni Schicchi is a comic opera in one act by Giacomo Puccini to an Italian libretto by Giovacchino Forzano, composed in 1917–18. The work is the third and final part of Puccini's Il trittico, three one-act operas with contrasting themes, following the dramatic Il tabarro and the lyric Suor Angelica. The libretto is based on an incident mentioned in Dante's Divine Comedy. Set in 1299 Florence, the title character pretends to be a rich citizen who had died, dictating a new will in favour of the deceased's family members but especially of himself (scene in the premiere pictured). The comedy, a rarity in the composer's work, combines elements of Puccini's modern harmonic dissonances with lyrical passages such as the aria "O mio babbino caro". When Il trittico premiered at New York's Metropolitan Opera on 14 December 1918, only Gianni Schicchi became an immediate hit. It has been performed more frequently than the other two, often combined with other short operas. - TFA today by Brian Boulton and Wehwalt
Matching the Dante Year, and mostly in memory of Brian, who invited me to join making FA Messiah, who invented the identibox (first for Percy Grainger, later Beethoven), who reviewed Kafka and Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4, and left me his collected sources for Vespro della Beata Vergine. Gianni Schicchi was the second opera in my life, DYK? - May Sibelius have an identibox? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
2022 in Freundschaft
Did you know ...
... that conductor Rudolf Pohl,
a member of the Aachen Cathedral choir as a boy,
brought the Charlemagne-era choir
to international recognition
in the 1960s?
Ehre sei dir, Gott, gesungen, BWV 248 V
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Let's make it a year of friendship! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- I adore sunflowers — this is wonderful! — The Most Comfortable Chair 07:41, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, and you made my day with making Edita Gruberová a GA! There were more images in 2021, if you like! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- .. and also: joy to the world - that's you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Lovely orchestra, and lovely images — thank you for sharing! Joy to the World is one of my favorite carols; my partner and I have been playing it on Christmas mornings for years. Happy New Year to you! — The Most Comfortable Chair 11:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- thank you, how serene and clear --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:16, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Lovely orchestra, and lovely images — thank you for sharing! Joy to the World is one of my favorite carols; my partner and I have been playing it on Christmas mornings for years. Happy New Year to you! — The Most Comfortable Chair 11:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Gerda
- Happy New Year from me as well, Gerda. You've lit up my day on so many occasion this past year, thank you!
Von guten Mächten treu und still umgeben,
behütet und getröstet wunderbar,
so will ich diese Tage mit euch leben
und mit euch gehen in ein neues Jahr.
— Bonhoeffer
- All the best! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:31, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Finnusertop, "Von guten Mächten" is one of my better productions, soo meaningful. - In friendship, hopefully to continue - DYK that I release de:In Freundschaft today? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Coincidentally, if such things exist, fi:Hyvyyden voiman ihmeelliseen suojaan is one of my favourite contributions as well, and the hymn deeply important on a personal level (the Finnish version uses a different tune, by Erkki Melartin, that I find sublime). New Year's resolution: read more about Stockhausen and try to listen without getting a headache! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:57, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- I believe that In Freundschaft would be a good start. Read - for background - #DYK for Jerome Kohl. While I never met Stockhausen and Jerome in person, I feel privileged to have been a friend of the bassoonist mentioned, - few meetings but memorable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Coincidentally, if such things exist, fi:Hyvyyden voiman ihmeelliseen suojaan is one of my favourite contributions as well, and the hymn deeply important on a personal level (the Finnish version uses a different tune, by Erkki Melartin, that I find sublime). New Year's resolution: read more about Stockhausen and try to listen without getting a headache! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:57, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Finnusertop, "Von guten Mächten" is one of my better productions, soo meaningful. - In friendship, hopefully to continue - DYK that I release de:In Freundschaft today? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- All the best! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:31, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
Simple
Gerda, I don't have pictures of fire works. You have many of those already. I could send you pictures of snow but it's the same kind that falls in Germany(cold). No pictures of roaring fires to keep you warm. Just my heart in words wishing you the best for this new year ahead. You have meant the world to me this past year. Your words of encouragement have seen me through tough days. The flowers in Spring and Summer, the Songs and adventurous paths you placed me on kept me occupied and moving forward. I am so very thankful and so very grateful for you and this community. I adore you and cherish our interactions forever. --ARoseWolf 21:13, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, dear, - I love it simple! I'll come with my snow tomorow ;) - I counted friends met this young year - 11! - and meeting friends is what counts, real or as you and I do here. Happy New Year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Special Barnstar | |
I don't think I've given someone a barnstar before, and you are the first person that came to mind. I haven't seen as much patience, kindness and civility in most elite contributors as I have seen with you. I hope you have a happy new year! Wretchskull (talk) 13:46, 31 December 2021 (UTC) |
- (blushing) thank you, Wretchskull, and also a happy new year to you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
Hello Gerda. Mere words are not enough to thank you for all that you have shared over the years. Wikipedia is blessed to have you as an editor. Best wishes to you now and always. MarnetteD|Talk 21:20, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Marnette, you make me blush as above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Die Schneekönigin
On 9 January 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Die Schneekönigin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in Die Schneekönigin, an opera for children by George Alexander Albrecht after Andersen's "The Snow Queen", members of a children's choir play the roles of birds and ice crystals? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Die Schneekönigin. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Die Schneekönigin), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- on a day with snow, and DYK ... that the composer introduced me to the major operas? ... I know the woman who inspired the opera? ... the girl's name in the plot is Gerda? ... it's my mom's birthday?
Did you know ...
... that in Die Schneekönigin,
an opera for children by George Alexander Albrecht
after Andersen's "The Snow Queen",
members of a children's choir
play the roles of birds and ice crystals?
Schon gewusst? In Stockhausens Bläserquintett
Zeitmaße
spielt das Englischhorn eine wesentliche Rolle.
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
thanks
Thanks for the 7 year wishes !--Wuerzele (talk) 20:00, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- you are welcome, thanks for coming over! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Eight years
And is it that long? The older you get, the faster time flies. Wetman 2603:7000:9901:41BA:6C73:73C:2892:ED (talk) 13:38, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- I think it is, not relying on my memory but the archive. Look around for music, - always liked chatting with you on the precious occasions! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
Thank you! GiantSnowman 14:43, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- thank you for coming over --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:29, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Dear Gerda, it's truly a pleasure to hear again from a cordial and constructive individual who works to bring light, rather than heat, to Wikipedia and to the world! Nihil novi (talk) 09:29, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
...coincidentially, also 45th wedding anniversary. David notMD (talk) 09:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- that's cute, David, please pass the little Valentine flowers to your wife, with congratulations ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Hi Gerda, how would you feel about Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227 being the TFA for 7 February? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:49, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for asking. You will remember that BWV 1 is planned for 25 March. Fine with me if that's not too close. I was thinking of 11 June - private anniversary, when I sang it first, the day before my grandfather's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- The schedulers, collectively, would be delighted to run BMV 227 on 7 Feb and BMV 1 on 25 March. Unless you have a strong objection we will do so. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- Fine with me --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:31, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- I prepared a blurb:
- Jesu, meine Freude (Jesus, my joy), BWV 227, is a motet by Johann Sebastian Bach. The longest and most musically complex of His motets, it is in eleven movements for up to five voices. It is named after the 1653 Lutheran hymn "Jesu, meine Freude" by Johann Franck in six stanzas which form the motet's odd-numbered movements, with the hymn tune by Johann Crüger appearing in different styles of chorale setting (beginning pictured). The text of even-numbered movements is from the Epistle to the Romans. The hymn, focused on an emotional bond to Jesus, adds complementing aspects to the doctrinal scripture text. Jesu, meine Freude is one of the few works by Bach for five vocal parts, in a structure of symmetries on different layers. While the work was supposed to have been written for a specific funeral in Leipzig in July 1723, as proposed in 1912, Christoph Wolff suggested that Bach may have compiled it for the education of his choir in both composition techniques and theology. It was the first of his motets to be recorded, in 1927.
- Supposed to go with the lead image, beginning of the first movement, the music being the same also for the last movement, just different text. Should I formally request on TFAR, Gog the Mild? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks - I had just set that up to work on myself, so it saves me a job and you will do it better. No need to formally request, I'm on it. Your draft is 1.098 characters long, including spaces. The limit is 1,025. Would you prefer to trim it, or should I have a go? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- I gave it a bit of copy-editing. If still too long, the last sentence could be dropped, or would you have a better idea? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks - I had just set that up to work on myself, so it saves me a job and you will do it better. No need to formally request, I'm on it. Your draft is 1.098 characters long, including spaces. The limit is 1,025. Would you prefer to trim it, or should I have a go? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- The schedulers, collectively, would be delighted to run BMV 227 on 7 Feb and BMV 1 on 25 March. Unless you have a strong objection we will do so. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- How is this?
1,006 characters.Jesu, meine Freude (Jesus, my joy), BWV 227, is a motet by Johann Sebastian Bach. The longest and most musically complex of his motets, it is in eleven movements for up to five voices. It is named after the 1653 Lutheran hymn "Jesu, meine Freude" by Johann Franck, the six stanzas of which form the motet's odd-numbered movements, with different styles of chorale setting (beginning pictured) making up the hymn tune, composed by Johann Crüger. The text of the even-numbered movements is from the Epistle to the Romans. The hymn focuses on an emotional bond to Jesus and Bach's treatment of Crüger's melody ranges from a four-part chorale harmonisation which begins and ends the work, to a chorale fantasia. Jesu, meine Freude is one of the few works by Bach for five vocal parts, in a structure of symmetries on different layers. It has been suggested that Bach compiled it for the education of his choir in both composition techniques and theology. It was the first of his motets to be recorded, in 1927.
- Sorry, made me smile ;) -. "with different styles of chorale setting (beginning pictured) making up the hymn tune, composed by Johann Crüger" - no, first came the hymn tune, then Bach's chorale settings of it. If we had room to mention the different settings in detail, all you mentioned were less interesting than the "free" one with only bits of the melody quoted, for Trotz, defiance. - I feel we do have to mention the funeral, because although the evidence that it is not so was there from the 1990s, many program notes today (and some of the sources) still say with certainty that is was composed for that event. Wolff is quite the authority, so I'd mention him by name, or the suggestion could be dismissed. - Bedtime. You can schedule, and we polish afterwards, hopefully with Dank and Dying helping. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- The funeral, I think that there is little chance that you will get onto the main page mention of something that is not believed to be so. And trying to explain it uses a lot of characters. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:22, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Gog the Mild, the funeral theory was wrong but held for almost a century, and many still believe it, - I think we need to explicitly say so. New try:
- Jesu, meine Freude (Jesus, my joy), BWV 227, is a motet by J. S. Bach composed in Leipzig and unusually set for up to five voices. It is his longest motet, in eleven movements, and musically his most complex, in several layers of symmetry. It is named after the 1653 Lutheran hymn "Jesu, meine Freude" by Johann Franck in six stanzas which became the motet's odd-numbered movements, while the text of the other movements is taken from the Epistle to the Romans. The emotional hymn and the doctrinal scripture text complement each other. Bach used the hymn tune by Johann Crüger in five different chorale settings (beginning pictured). While the work was believed to be funeral music, since a Leipzig church musician argued in 1912 for a specific funeral in July 1723, his evidence was refuted in 1995, and Christoph Wolff concluded that Bach may have compiled it for the education of his choir in both composition techniques and theology. It was the first Bach motet to be recorded, in 1927. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Promised: not that it matters much, but there will be articles about the one who claimed the funeral thingy, and the one who refuted, by when it appears. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- The funeral, I think that there is little chance that you will get onto the main page mention of something that is not believed to be so. And trying to explain it uses a lot of characters. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:22, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- I took your point earlier. And have included a brief mention in the draft - here. Feel free to edit this draft, and/or make comments on its talk page Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- thank you, seen and I like your phrasing, no changes right now, - I'll wait what the others say --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Gerda, i have copyedited the blurb, taking the discussion here into account. feel free to undo any part of my edit if you prefer the original wording or if i have made any mistakes. hopefully, the comments i left in my edit explain my reasoning sufficiently, though i think i should make a few additional points.
- i am not sure if it would be better to say that wolf "suggested" his theory (as stated in the article) rather than "believed" it, but i ended up leaving the verb used in the blurb alone. feel free to change that if you think it should conform to the article.
- i took the liberty of creating a template for the "BWV" abbreviation, as
- the abbreviation and tooltip text are regularly used in articles on bach's works;
- bach was prolific, so there is potential for the template to be used more than just a few times;
- it improves readability of the code; and
- the template automatically inserts a non-breaking space between the abbreviation and the numeral following (if provided).
- for example, as seen in the blurb, the code "{{BWV|227}}" inserts the text "BWV 227". i believe its use does not violate any standards for the main page, as the circa template is regularly used in blurbs. please let me know if it violates any other standards that i might not be aware of, such as those of the relevant wikiprojects.
- if bach's initials are used, i believe there should be a non-breaking space between the "J." and the "S.", to conform with mos:initials. note that, in tfa blurbs, the html entity " " is generally used instead of the nbsp template.
- i feel that, for someone unfamiliar with motets and movements, the phrase "his longest and most musically complex motet in eleven movements for up to five voices" may be misinterpreted to mean that, amongst the motets in the eleven movements, this motet was the longest and most musically complex one. perhaps replacing "motet in" with "motet, with" would avoid such a misinterpretation.
- i cannot tell if a link to "motet" was deliberately omitted, but if not, the second instance of the word can easily be linked.
- apologies for the delayed response; currently, i cannot seem to find the time to address blurbs much earlier than a week before they appear on the main page. in any case, i appreciate the ping, as it allowed me to think about this blurb over a few days, and i do not know if i would have noticed this discussion without it. dying (talk) 18:50, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- no apologies needed, thank you for your help which I looked forward to (see earlier in the thread). perhaps i should have pinged you then but didn't want to put you under pressure). - the template is fine, thank you! I'd prefer Bach's full name, just proposed to abbreviate it to save a few characters. - how about this: In eleven movements for up to five voices, it is his longest and most musically complex motet? - yes, a link to "motet" was deliberately omitted, because this isn't the typical motet, and a reader with no idea what a motet is may get a link from the list of motets, still sort of a detour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- oh, sorry if i was not clear before; i actually did get the earlier ping above (hence my apology for the delayed response). interestingly, however, your ping on the blurb's talk page failed, though i luckily stumbled upon your message anyway, albeit after writing the above response. hopefully, this edit addresses your concerns.by the way, for future reference, i do not mind being pinged significantly before a blurb is scheduled to appear on the main page (even though, admittedly, it might take me a while to respond properly). so feel free to ping me without worrying about putting me under pressure. dying (talk) 20:43, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- no apologies needed, thank you for your help which I looked forward to (see earlier in the thread). perhaps i should have pinged you then but didn't want to put you under pressure). - the template is fine, thank you! I'd prefer Bach's full name, just proposed to abbreviate it to save a few characters. - how about this: In eleven movements for up to five voices, it is his longest and most musically complex motet? - yes, a link to "motet" was deliberately omitted, because this isn't the typical motet, and a reader with no idea what a motet is may get a link from the list of motets, still sort of a detour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Gerda, i have copyedited the blurb, taking the discussion here into account. feel free to undo any part of my edit if you prefer the original wording or if i have made any mistakes. hopefully, the comments i left in my edit explain my reasoning sufficiently, though i think i should make a few additional points.
- thank you, seen and I like your phrasing, no changes right now, - I'll wait what the others say --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
Promotion of Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227
- Congrats! DanCherek (talk) 00:16, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank yoo, both. The article is the work of many, just check the the GA nominations, PR and FAC. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- Congratulations. I had intended on taking a look when you first told me about it, then totally forgot. I'm glad we have you. Urve (talk) 09:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227 scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 7 February 2022. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 2022, or to make more comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/February 2022. I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:15, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
DYK for This too shall pass (composition)
On 23 January 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article This too shall pass (composition), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in her 2021 composition This too shall pass with string orchestra, Raminta Šerkšnytė used a vibraphone for the flow of time, a violin for the transience of humans, and a "heavenly" cello? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/This too shall pass (composition). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, This too shall pass (composition)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Nomination for Precious?
Hi! Not sure this is something that people do, but I just noticed GhostRiver's extensive work in this month's GA backlog drive. Looking over their contributions, I thought they seemed like someone you might want to give the Precious award to. Not pinging them here both in case you decide not to or else to maintain a pleasant surprise. I know I really valued it when you awarded it to me a while ago. Hope you're doing well! Ganesha811 (talk) 03:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Ganesha811, - extra thankful because I'm on vacation and have little time. I'll look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
During your vacation - a hook set worthy of the main page
- ... that Did You Know started on Wikipedia's main page in 2004?
- ... that Did you know began placing DYK notifications on 13 January 2006, and nominators started receiving credit on 13 May 2006.
- ... that DYK gives Awards to contributors for outstanding work?
- ... that Did you know recognises editors who nominate other peoples articles with a hook to appear on Wikipedia's main page?
- ... that we count up those editors who write articles and their own Did you know hooks, which successfully appear on the main page of Wikipedia?
- ... that the stats for one Wikipedian's nominations of someone else's articles was 252?
- ... the highest number of hooks that have appeared on the DYK section of the main page by one person of their own articles was 1748 in January 2022?
- ... that although there is no award for total contributions, 1748 plus 252 is exactly 2000?
- ... that the award (pictured) is for Gerda!
- Thank you, Victuallers, diligent work! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:30, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Pico de las Nieves
Dear Gerda, Fabulous pictures! The living masses resolving into receding poems from the painter's palate, the volumes rolling away like a tide. Domini est terra, et plenitudo eius - Quam admirabile est Nomen Tuum! (that's two different places...). Levavi oculos meos in montes unde veniet auxilium mihi. The whole world causes one to raise up one's eyes into the infinite firmament. Thankyou, I wish I were there. I do hope you took your auloi with you. - Blessings, Eebahgum (talk) 21:09, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for coming over. I took no instrument, but sang in the open air ;) - Hebe deine Augen auf (Levavi ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- "Hebe auf" - makes it sound such an effort! I, too, sing out loud in the open air, giving to all and sundry the appearance of my being a madman. I sang an entire Psalm (to my own music) when on my own halfway up a very high hill in Snowdonia, before realizing that the top of the hill was rather beyond my reach. And when I go into an empty parish church in the country I often sing one. I sang one to God alone in St Margaret South Elmham in Suffolk one drowsy afternoon in 2020, and just as I finished I realized that I was not alone at all - the entire church was full of sleepy hornets - there was one sitting just beside me (and I have the allergy if I am stung), so I stole away home, or at least, out of the church, rather gingerly...
Back in March 1989 I was staying at Cortona in Italy and walked over to the Franciscan cells at Le Celle by the road which sweeps around the contour of the hillside like a vast amphitheatre, looking down towards Il Sodo and the top corner of the Val di Chiana. Half-way around (coming back from the cells) I stopped, and, checking that I was quite alone, "This is surely better than La Scala" thought I, so I stood looking out over the descending hillside and let rip with a very full-throated rendering of "Dai campi, dai prati" (Boito, Mefistofele) in my best baritone declamation. Hoping I was not disturbing the monks in their celle, I enjoyed myself so much I sang "Giunto sul passo estremo" as well, possibly twice, into the deliciously cool but sunny air. It seemed to be going well... As I concluded, con gusto ("voglio che questo sogno sia la santa poesia: è l'ultimo bisogno dell'esistenza mia"), an Italian guide with a party of about 30 nice American ladies suddenly popped out from behind a nearby bush, and the guide remarked kindly, "You have found yourself an excellent theatre!" We all laughed, and everyone was very nice about it. I don't think I had quite ruined their morning, nor they mine, but I didn't reprise after that: the diffidence took over. It was the same week I did this sslightly peculiar sketch of the church a little lower down the same hillside. Younger days... Eebahgum (talk) 23:46, 30 January 2022 (UTC)- You opened my eyes and ears, lovely, thank you. Spectacular even, - I love the sketch, and wish I had been one of those ladies! Recommended reading for all who watch this page. Singing (up to quartet) at the Gnadenthal church on bike tours is all I can offer in return ;) - on 13 June last year with the subject of my first article, - he set Psalm 121 for choir and organ, and nobody performed it yet, because the organ part is too difficult. I better upload an image of the interior. - When we sang the gently soaring Mendelssohn (pictured on my user page this year) the chaplain on duty kindly said that women's choir has been called "wie im Himmel" (as in Heaven) in Salzburg. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Eebahgum - then you might enjoy the oft-repeated story of the Soviet Russian tenor Victor Nikitin who was born with a beautiful voice, but missed all or most of his training due to war, but when he sang in the trenches the German soldiers stopped firing to listen. And on another track - I (who have no religion) have always wanted to stand on top of a mountain at dawn and sing Sol Ovitur - a mediaeval hymn to Jesus as the rising sun, with the melody and the melismas taken straight and unaltered from the Arab tradition. As John Lennon said - "imagine there's no countries". Storye book (talk) 11:06, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thankyou for that - difficult to get up that mountain and then sing those melismata without the aspirates, at any rate for me (for any hill makes me huff and puff nowadays)! ;- It's said that Caruso used to call the daily news to the neighbouring hilltop village in his youth. And if your "hill" happens to be F6, who knows what you, or anyone else, may find at the top of it? The Book of Samuel warns us against worship of high places. Eebahgum (talk) 12:12, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Eebahgum, I have been surrounded by mountains most of my life. From Italy where we lived in the Piedmont, to Montana, to Alaska (two mountain ranges), I love climbing. I have now worn a path to my favorite overlook of the lake from Sirr Mt. Even in snow that is feet deep I will walk or mush to sing my morning songs as often as possible. I have done this for as long as I can remember every where I have lived. My songs are different than most but they are sung from my heart and my Spirit. They often are of those I love and care about. They are also songs of thanks to creator and the universe. They are tributes to the Colors I hear and the Songs I see around me. Sometimes I drag my cello or carry a flute or take my bowls to play. On the rare occasion I am accompanied by a friend that brings his drum. When he is not with me my heart keeps beat. It is not a life for everyone, there are hardships around ever bend in the river, but it is a life I love and a life I intend to live as full as I possibly can. I will sing a song for you and the little one. --ARoseWolf 14:38, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thankyou, Asareel. Eebahgum (talk) 17:24, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- thank you all, and don't miss edit summary "A symphony is heard from the tops of the mountain to the depth of the sea, a symphony of Life and Love". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- "Abyssus abyssum invocat in voce cataractarum tuarum", he says in Psalm 42/41. And from the Soul to the Firmament. Eebahgum (talk) 17:24, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- thank you all, and don't miss edit summary "A symphony is heard from the tops of the mountain to the depth of the sea, a symphony of Life and Love". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thankyou for that - difficult to get up that mountain and then sing those melismata without the aspirates, at any rate for me (for any hill makes me huff and puff nowadays)! ;- It's said that Caruso used to call the daily news to the neighbouring hilltop village in his youth. And if your "hill" happens to be F6, who knows what you, or anyone else, may find at the top of it? The Book of Samuel warns us against worship of high places. Eebahgum (talk) 12:12, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Eebahgum - then you might enjoy the oft-repeated story of the Soviet Russian tenor Victor Nikitin who was born with a beautiful voice, but missed all or most of his training due to war, but when he sang in the trenches the German soldiers stopped firing to listen. And on another track - I (who have no religion) have always wanted to stand on top of a mountain at dawn and sing Sol Ovitur - a mediaeval hymn to Jesus as the rising sun, with the melody and the melismas taken straight and unaltered from the Arab tradition. As John Lennon said - "imagine there's no countries". Storye book (talk) 11:06, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- You opened my eyes and ears, lovely, thank you. Spectacular even, - I love the sketch, and wish I had been one of those ladies! Recommended reading for all who watch this page. Singing (up to quartet) at the Gnadenthal church on bike tours is all I can offer in return ;) - on 13 June last year with the subject of my first article, - he set Psalm 121 for choir and organ, and nobody performed it yet, because the organ part is too difficult. I better upload an image of the interior. - When we sang the gently soaring Mendelssohn (pictured on my user page this year) the chaplain on duty kindly said that women's choir has been called "wie im Himmel" (as in Heaven) in Salzburg. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- "Hebe auf" - makes it sound such an effort! I, too, sing out loud in the open air, giving to all and sundry the appearance of my being a madman. I sang an entire Psalm (to my own music) when on my own halfway up a very high hill in Snowdonia, before realizing that the top of the hill was rather beyond my reach. And when I go into an empty parish church in the country I often sing one. I sang one to God alone in St Margaret South Elmham in Suffolk one drowsy afternoon in 2020, and just as I finished I realized that I was not alone at all - the entire church was full of sleepy hornets - there was one sitting just beside me (and I have the allergy if I am stung), so I stole away home, or at least, out of the church, rather gingerly...
Did you ever see this? - Hi Gerda, I just saw this (from 2009) on the internet and find we are both in it! And for the right reasons...! I didn't know I was such a pompous windbag back in 2009 (but it comes as no surprise). I wonder if you ever saw it? Maybe I did, and have forgotten, but the Internet is (almost) eternal. That is even pre-Precious... I had only been editing for 3 years! Eebahgum (talk) 22:04, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- (Scrolling down) and I seem to have responded at the time but had totally forgotten about it. I am a dotard Eebahgum (talk) 22:10, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- no, had not seen that, cute, thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Heinz Werner Zimmermann
On 1 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Heinz Werner Zimmermann, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerT•C 17:44, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Did you know that the article was begun by Jerome Kohl? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Recent deaths - similarly:
- Herbert Achternbusch - PFHLai (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Emil Mangelsdorff - Stephen 00:16, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- Erwin Eisch - SpencerT•C 22:19, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
- Georg Christoph Biller - El_C 22:31, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, El C, you are top. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:42, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hans Neuenfels - Stephen 22:39, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- George Crumb - Muboshgu (talk) 23:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Peter Merseburger - PFHLai (talk) 03:59, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Franz Grave - PFHLai (talk) 01:06, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Christian Herwartz - TJMSmith (talk) 12:36, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Antonietta Stella - PFHLai (talk) 20:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Eleonore Schönborn - TJMSmith (talk) 12:23, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Inge Deutschkron - TJMSmith (talk) 17:12, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Ich lasse dich nicht, du segnest mich denn, BWV 157
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- as you can read on my user page: begun by Dr. Blofeld, expanded by Nikkimaria, further expanded together, and I thought about having lost RexxS for this project when I heard it last year --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
TFA thanks
Five years! |
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Since you are kind enough to thank everyone else on the day of their TFAs: thank you today for Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227, as you describe it: "Bach's longest motet, with a complex text alternating hymn stanzas from "Jesu, meine Freude" with biblical text from Paul's Letter to the Romans. The music, in a symmetrical arrangement of 11 movements, displays various vocal scorings (from 3 to 5 voices) and compositional variation and finesse. For the longest time, the motet was believed to have been composed for a certain funeral, but recent scholarship questioned that."! DanCherek (talk) 03:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you Dan, that's lovely! It was the work of many writing, reviewing, inspiring, - thanks to all! (more later) It played a special role in my life (perhaps more later). For the record the entry as Br'er Rabbit might have wanted it:
Beginning of the first movement |
Jesu, meine Freude (Jesus, my joy), BWV 227, is a motet by J. S. Bach. In eleven movements for up to five voices, it is his longest and most musically complex motet. It is named after the 1653 Lutheran hymn "Jesu, meine Freude" by Johann Franck; the hymn's six stanzas form the motet's odd-numbered movements. Bach used the hymn tune by Johann Crüger in five different chorale settings (example pictured). The hymn's text focuses on an emotional bond to Jesus, complementing the doctrinal text from the Epistle to the Romans used for the even-numbered movements. Jesu, meine Freude is one of the few works by Bach for five vocal parts, in a structure of symmetries on different layers. It is unclear when the motet was written. Bach scholar Christoph Wolff believed that Bach may have compiled it to educate his choir incomposition techniques and theology; an earlier theory that it was written for a 1723 funeral in Leipzig is now discredited. In 1927, it became the first of Bach motets to be recorded.
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 7 February 2022 (UTC) }}
- "Jesus, my joy"; wonderful words, especially in these times. A good read! Panini!🥪 13:53, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'm glad to see another editor had the same thought as me (thanks, DanCherek!) and came to your page to give you a thanks. Nice work here, Gerda. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 15:31, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, both, and - as said above - the many others involved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you Gerda, and all the others, for writing this up so beautifully. Drmies (talk) 16:37, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- What an absolute joy to read and very deserving of TFA. Gerda and others, the writing of this article very eloquently describes this beautiful motet. Thank you to all involved! --ARoseWolf 18:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you two, blushing a bit. For the album: 7 February 2022, - two women pictured, I like that, and late also Neuenfels (for whom I need to do a bit more). Help with George Crumb welcome, everybody. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- both these articles are better, but improvements still wanted --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:28, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
WikiProject Peace?
Feel free to publicise User:Boud/Draft:WikiProject Peace to people likely to be interested. Boud (talk) 22:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- this looks like a good idea, countering all the battles, but - with a backlog of my own projects - I feel I can't commit to serious work. Call me when translations from German are needed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Danke
...hierfür Herr, gib uns Mut zum Hören LG --Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 10:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- gerne! besonders gerne sogar denn Mut - courage - war letztes Jahr mein Schlüsselwort. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- well done :-) --Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 18:42, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- ... und nun de:In Freundschaft --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Sehr schön, freut mich sehr, besonders auf der Basis meiner damaligen Freundschaft zum Komponisten ,-) LG--Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Ein Freund von mir ist Komponist, und sein Vater war ein Freund von Stockhausen, der In Freundschaft komponiert hat, und der Benutzer, der den Artikel über das Werk geschrieben hat, war ein Freund hier, auch wenn ich ihn getroffen habe. Und ein anderer Freund hat in einer Aufführung von Hymnen mitgewirkt, und sich gefreut, dass sie im Artikel erwähnt wird. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:42, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Na, alle Achtung! Hatte mal einen kurzen Wortwechsel mit JK, wusste nicht, dass er 2020+ LG --Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 20:00, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Ein Freund von mir ist Komponist, und sein Vater war ein Freund von Stockhausen, der In Freundschaft komponiert hat, und der Benutzer, der den Artikel über das Werk geschrieben hat, war ein Freund hier, auch wenn ich ihn getroffen habe. Und ein anderer Freund hat in einer Aufführung von Hymnen mitgewirkt, und sich gefreut, dass sie im Artikel erwähnt wird. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:42, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Sehr schön, freut mich sehr, besonders auf der Basis meiner damaligen Freundschaft zum Komponisten ,-) LG--Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- ... und nun de:In Freundschaft --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- well done :-) --Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 18:42, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Ukraine
Did you know ...
... that the Ukrainian mixed chamber choir
OREYA
won a special prize for
the best interpretation
of a religious choral work
at the 14th International
Chamber Choir Competition Marktoberdorf?
Yoninah loved the image, - she thought it was my first on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Tears for brave Ukraine -- Milkunderwood (talk) 08:27, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I've been thinking about this a lot today. Those poor people, and I fear their suffering is just beginning. Coincidentally, -- well, sort of -- I was just listening to Dmitry Bortniansky. Antandrus (talk) 22:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Prayer for Ukraine (1885) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- I woke up determined to expand the article, and translate it, - help? We so far have Ukainian, Moldavian, Italian and Japanese. I'll do German. Please note other plans here for coordination. Anybody bold enough for Russian? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I've been thinking about this a lot today. Those poor people, and I fear their suffering is just beginning. Coincidentally, -- well, sort of -- I was just listening to Dmitry Bortniansky. Antandrus (talk) 22:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for expanding, DanCherek and Микола Василечко and some gnomes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your terrific work on the Prayer for Ukraine article—I think I'm going to put some things aside to work on Mykola Lysenko's article. I was considering trying to start some kind of event at the CM project page to work on Ukranian music articles, what do you think about this? I feel like I (or you and I, if you have any interest) could assemble a list of important articles for the project to work on. Not sure if it would be limited to composers, maybe also performers or genres? If you don't have time, I understand, just thought I'd ask about it! I did finally get around to adding more to Crumb's article, by the way, though I think Lysenko will take priority for the time being. Aza24 (talk) 00:23, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- thank you so much - and I woke up thinking that I'd mobilise QAI ;) - I first want to polish the article some more, and nominate for DYK, and then see what's missing, first from the OREYA playlist and the essay about composers cited in the article. If you could add sources to the hymn from what you find for Lysenko, that would be great. We had Kateryna Kasper. Usually, new "needed articles" just come by red links for me, but feel free to do it more formally for CM. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- thanks to Nikkimaria for a French version --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Viktor Matiuk is ripe for creation! DanCherek (talk) 20:34, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, lovely! Thank you for your work on this article, the message(s) you left on my talk page, and of course, prayers for Ukraine. Panini! • 🥪 00:13, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the support! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Collecting more sources
- My Memoirs: Life’s Journey through WWII and Various Historical Events of the 21st Century about 1991
- Guest opinion: Attack on Ukraine touches all of us 2022
- Most Large-Scale Performance of the Spiritual Anthem “Prayer for Ukraine”: Karazin University to Set a Record St. Athanasius Ukrainian Catholic Church 2017
- Prayer for Ukraine (M.Lysenko), “Oremus” Quartet 25 Feb 2022
- Watch Saturday Night Live’s Powerful Ode to Ukraine toronto99.com 27 Feb 2022
- Inter-Faith Commemoration of the Seventieth Anniversary of the Forced Deportation of Ukraine’s Crimean Tatars 31 May 2014
- On Friday, the First Session of The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine of the 6th Convocation, Elected at an Early Parliamentary Election on 30 September 2007, Will Commence Proceedings rada.gov.ua 2007
- Child Bandura players set national record on Independence Day in Kherson 2016
- do you see what I see: this quotes our article
- not a ref but don't miss video of a Swedish and a Ukrainian chidren's choir together --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Dan, do you think we should some of these? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work on the article and for the DYK nomination. I'll look through these and add some. I don't think the Toronto99 SNL one is needed though, the existing sources in the article cover that performance pretty well. DanCherek (talk) 19:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- ...though I like their link to The Ukrainian Weekly with some background about the New York choir and will probably use that. DanCherek (talk) 19:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- thank you sooo much --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- ...though I like their link to The Ukrainian Weekly with some background about the New York choir and will probably use that. DanCherek (talk) 19:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Dan, motherjones - has a good pic and description, including that only last minute/seconds you see what the candles spell --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- yourclassical.org
- book: Postwar Continuity and New Challenges in Central Europe, 1918–1923: The War That Never Ended 2021
- classoical voice
- a coin: aguru.pro
- gala concert: opera.com.ua --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:53, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- worldwide - 2008: https://risu.ua/en/on-august-24-simultaneous-worldwide-prayer-to-be-held-for-ukraine_n92536 risu.ua] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- I am going to be offline for much of today but will take a look later when I get a chance! DanCherek (talk) 14:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Prayer for Ukraine
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- (It's just a couple of references though, nothing major. SN54129 15:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC))
Prayer for Ukraine - thanks
Thanks, Gerda, for drawing our attention to this. We will be using it. Bermicourt (talk) 10:47, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- thank you, - see above about translating to other languages --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
RFC
I started a RFC on the DYK talk page with a mention of Prayer for Ukraine. SL93 (talk) 23:25, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Some think that an article about an 1885 piece of music should not be shown on the Main page now. But then when, I ask? Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Request for comment on Ukraine and Russia hooks --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Prayer for Ukraine
Hello Gerda! I have seen you posting on some people's talk pages about Prayer for Ukraine (nothing bad about it). Today I"m going to get the chance to play the song for myself. I'm glad that there are people out there who do support Ukraine (including me), they really need it. I watched a video recently about how this war started, and it appears it's just because Russia is jealous that Ukraine was able to find a lot of natural gas, making Ukraine second to Russia in natural gas (i may be misinterpreting that as I tend to have terrible memory). Hope you continue to do well. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:53, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- thank you, Blaze Wolf - I took the photo that I posted, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- I did not know that. Assuming you are referring to the photo with the flowers (which is the one I see that mentions the song) it looks very pretty. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:07, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- now I don't know which you mean, - I talk about the one beginning the thread #Ukraine here, of a choir from Zhytomyr, - another photo from there just above. I take many of flowers, so that may also be by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ah my bad. I was looking at the one at the top of this page (below the DYK part). That still looks very good. Also, I just noticed that at the top of your talk page, there's this string of text:
Faure Requiem Manuscript.gif
I would assume that's meant to display as an image/gif? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:18, 8 March 2022 (UTC)- thanks, very observant - it was used for a "in memoriam" box --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ah alright. Anyways, I hope you have a good day(/night/evening/whatever time it is for you). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have a user page where you can find out ;) - best wishes for you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ah alright. Anyways, I hope you have a good day(/night/evening/whatever time it is for you). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- thanks, very observant - it was used for a "in memoriam" box --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ah my bad. I was looking at the one at the top of this page (below the DYK part). That still looks very good. Also, I just noticed that at the top of your talk page, there's this string of text:
- now I don't know which you mean, - I talk about the one beginning the thread #Ukraine here, of a choir from Zhytomyr, - another photo from there just above. I take many of flowers, so that may also be by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- I did not know that. Assuming you are referring to the photo with the flowers (which is the one I see that mentions the song) it looks very pretty. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:07, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
March editathons
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Thank You
Thank you, Gerda. I had to chuckle a little about your edit summary here though. I did not know that you are wary of Arbcom. But then I understood your edit. :) --Gereon K. (talk) 11:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- I was admonished and restricted, and never understood why. I wrote He was despised before, and protested just standing and singing. That is still my only weapon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:25, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Singing is a powerful weapon. --ARoseWolf 13:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
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DYK for Elena Tsallagova
On 9 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Elena Tsallagova, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that operatic soprano Elena Tsallagova has been described as a natural actress who can make even looking around a corner interesting? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Elena Tsallagova. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Elena Tsallagova), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
seen in Munich 10 February - wanted to say: ... that Elena Tsallagova, an operatic soprano born in Vladikavkaz, appeared as Janáček's Cunning Vixen at the Paris Opera? ... was it too dangerous to say that a soprano from Russia performs in Europe? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Nabucco
Sorry, I took my eyes off my watchlist and when I returned just now, the clock had just ticked over midnight at UTC and the item has disappeared off the mainpage. And by the way, this edit did not trigger a ping as explained in the lead of Help:Notifications (look for the word in bold font). Schwede66 00:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- No problem, I thought you were watching , and if not had more important things to do, as I had. I know that a ping works only with a new signature, but when my mind is somewhere else I forget. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- To all: I nominated Nabucco for GA, in memory of Viva-Verdi, - all help welcome. Va, pensiero. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
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DYK for Bridal Suite (Bernstein)
On 11 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bridal Suite (Bernstein), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Leonard Bernstein composed the piano suite Bridal Suite for the wedding of Adolph Green and Phyllis Newman, with the couple meant to play it three-hands? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bridal Suite (Bernstein). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Bridal Suite (Bernstein)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Barnstar for you
The Hard Worker's Barnstar | |
I think you must be one of the most hard-working editors here - thank you for your tireless efforts in creating articles and in helping other editors with theirs. And congratulations on the Kafka DYK! Storye book (talk) 10:22, 11 March 2022 (UTC) |
- thank you but we must have a few misunderstandings ;) - Kafka was no DYK (see the one and only userbox on my user page) - I'm not working hard, I mean: creating articles is soft/fun/pleasure - what's sometimes hard is not being understood, but I'm getting better at it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Many thanks
For fixing my coding error on Template:Did you know nominations/Stephen Bishop (cave explorer). I remain hopeful that someday the DYK? will get approved for Stephen Bishop (cave explorer) will get approved and moved into the queue but yikes the backlog is sooooo long... Oh well, have a great weekend - Shearonink (talk) 16:45, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Ninth
I added a ref for an interesting recent article from the NY Times about the first performance of Symphony No. 9 (Beethoven). I do not want to expand it personally, for an article of this importance in a field I know only as an ignorant music-lover. Could you take at look at the article in the NYT and add what is necessary. (And I see the Louis Duport article needs great expansion, which I am similarly not competent to do--can you suggest someone? DGG ( talk ) 07:20, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Forum Thomanum
On 13 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Forum Thomanum, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2002, Georg Christoph Biller and others conceived the Forum Thomanum as a new music educational campus for the Thomanerchor, Bach's choir dating back to 1212? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Forum Thomanum. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Forum Thomanum), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
—Kusma (talk) 12:02, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Did you know ...
... that in 2002, Georg Christoph Biller
and others conceived the
Forum Thomanum
as a new music educational campus
for the Thomanerchor,
Bach's choir dating back to 1212?
DYK for Anna Korsun
On 14 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anna Korsun, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Anna Korsun, a composer who studied in Kyiv and Munich, and teaches in Amsterdam, was awarded a scholarship at the Villa Massimo in Rome in 2018? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anna Korsun. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Anna Korsun), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
the only real nation is humanity --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Missa Sanctae Caeciliae
On 14 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Missa Sanctae Caeciliae, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1711 Missa Sanctae Caeciliae, the first composition by Jan Dismas Zelenka, who had come from Prague to play in the Dresden court orchestra, is a 45-minute mass? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Missa Sanctae Caeciliae. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Missa Sanctae Caeciliae), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
—Kusma (talk) 12:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- heard on New Year's Eve --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:17, 14 March 2022 (UTC)