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Modern sculpture of Henry III's white bear
Modern sculpture of Henry III's white bear

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on May 16

Why can't it go on the main page? It's long enough and the ref checks out! (lol) Mjroots (talk) 14:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've bolded the RFA instead of the log ;). Mjroots (talk) 14:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Abdominal CT scan of a patient with subcutaneous emphysema
Abdominal CT scan of a patient with subcutaneous emphysema
Created this article especially to mark my 100th DYK.--Bedford 03:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 15

But the article states 'It is believed to be the only bridge on Earth that begins and ends in the same county, crosses over two rivers (Green River and the Rough River, and passes over an entirely different county.' - implying the bridge is unique because it crosses all of these different things. At most it can only be said to claim that "'It is believed to be the only bridge in the world that starts and ends in the same county" - Benea (talk) 22:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Could we change the hook to read "it is probably the only bridge in the world..."? I'm not sure if hooks can be like that, but if it is allowed, I think it would be really cool to put that on the Main Page because I'm sure a lot of people would read it. Thingg 22:43, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the hook; how does it look?--Bedford 23:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Which article? The359 (talk) 18:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I assume its the Woodhouse Grove School, but it doesn't look like this is a five-fold expansion within the last five days. BuddingJournalist 19:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It does appear to be the Woodhouse article. I think it's skirting the edge of the 5-day rule (21stCenturyGreenstuff's edits to this article began on May 9th, but he really only reached 5x expansion today). However, the hook used here is poorly worded and uninteresting. It presents no unique factoid other than saying exactly what the school is. The359 (talk) 21:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 14

The Triumphal Arch
The Triumphal Arch
Wardlow Mires
Wardlow Mires
Chantilly lace
Chantilly lace
"world famous"? POV/PEACOCK? --74.14.17.189 (talk) 14:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The assertion of "world famous" is be backed up by this page (scroll to number 40), but the site appears to be relatively old. Could you possibly find another, more recent citation for the fact? Thingg 23:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What assertion of "world famous"? That's still somebody's POV. --74.14.21.98 (talk) 02:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
More citations..."arguably rugby union's most famous stadium" (BBC), "Overshadowed by the Millennium Stadium, the Blues' stadium is next door, both of course built in the world famous Cardiff Arms Park", "The Arms Park...the venue is among the most famous in the world" (Cardiff RFC), "The Arms Park, one of rugby union’s most famous grounds" (Welsh Rugby Union) Wales play their home games...at the world famous Cardiff Arms Park (www.rugby15.co.uk) and "The Millennium Stadium is built on the site of the world famous Cardiff Arms Park rugby stadium" (www.geometry.net)...hopefully this is will help. Seth Whales (talk) 09:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're citing people's opinion. In a single sentence on the mainpage, it's WP:PEACOCK-ish, too. Try describing what makes it famous, instead. --74.13.129.229 (talk) 12:55, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
1400 characters. Thingg 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, ref, and length verified. Thingg 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unexpected Visitors
Unexpected Visitors
  • ... that Edward Lamson Henry paid such close attention to detail that his nostalgic paintings of agrarian America (pictured) were considered authentic historical reconstructions? (Self-nom. Expanded from a {{1911}} stub into a real article! I don't believe there are any COI concerns here, as I did not create the article and I think notability and such is quite clear. --JayHenry (talk) 02:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC) )[reply]
  • Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't play in here too often) but I think only content is counted, not references, etc. If so, then the length went from a bit over 900 to under 3,300. If I'm splitting hairs, someone more experienced here please overrule because it's a much nicer article now. —Wknight94 (talk) 21:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I goofed. I can live with that. I'm just happy the article is better, DYK would have been an added bonus. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 21:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yep that's fine! BG7
  • ... that the 12th century Doddabasappa Temple (pictured) in Karnataka state, India, has a 24-pointed stellate plan which is considered unusual in Indian architecture?(self nom)Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm a bit confused by the hook, comparing it with the article. It also doesn't appear to be cited. Please forgive me if i'm wrong. BG7 14:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • The hook is cited (citation #4 from Foekema, one of the experts on Chalukyan architecture).thanks, Dineshkannambadi (talk) 14:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Please explain what the confusion is and I can clarify.thanks Dineshkannambadi (talk) 15:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • Hi, the hook is spread out over several sentences in the article - I think it would be better for the hook to be put almost as it is in the article? Also, generally it should be cited immediately after the . (full stop) of the sentence.
          • BG7 17:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
              • Hi. Here is the sentence with the hook. It appears as the first paragraph in the section "stellate plan" - The temple is based on a 24-pointed uninterrupted stellate plan (star shaped) and uses soapstone as its basic building material.[4] Contemporary stellate plans in central India from where the inspiration for this temple came from, were all 32-pointed interrupted types. No temples of the 6-, 12-, or 24-pointed stellate plans are known to exist anywhere in India, with the exception of the Doddabasappa temple, which can be described as a 24-pointed uninterrupted plan.[4] Could you tell me how you want it re-worded Or do you expect this in the LEAD? thanks. Dineshkannambadi (talk) 21:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 13

Alt hook: ... that the Soviet Union won a medal at every single Ice Hockey World Championships competition in which it participated? Alt hook written by Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 20:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Created Page Today, included several references.<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 20:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Removed hook and article links. Will possibly create article at a later date. <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 13:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
i see no problems - hook is good, article is well written and sourced, meets character limit. Hook is in article, but as two separate statements: both are however reffed. BG7 10:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*... that before Dr. Seuss's Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories was published by Random House, a meeting had to be held because it contained the word "burp", which was then considered vulgar? — (not entirely sure about the wording, please suggest) self-nom, Mr. Absurd (talk) 05:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

perhaps:
... that a meeting had to be held before Dr. Seuss's Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories was published by Random House as it contained the word "burp", which was then considered vulgar?
Hows that for an alt hook?
however, i'm not too sure that it meets DYK's guidelines. It's not new, and it doesnt' appear to have expanded five-fold. BG7 10:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
alternatively ... that in order to get around the prohibition on foreign lace imports into England in the late 1600s, merchants smuggled in Brussels lace calling it 'Point d'Angleterre' or "English point"? new article, self nom Loggie (talk) 07:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 12

Hector Berlioz
Hector Berlioz
I thought the irony would make a great hook.--Bedford 14:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Need to boldface new article. Daniel Case (talk) 21:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This may be a snappier alternative wording, if you like that sort of thing:
... that tomatoes were not grown in Japan until 1899, when Ichitaro Kanie germinated the 150 billion yen Kagome Company?
Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 04:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Does Wikipedia aim to have an article on every serial killer?--Wetman (talk) 15:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If they're notable. Of course we do. Kafziel Complaint Department 02:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's much better than my original suggestion. Thanks! Kafziel Complaint Department 02:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
File:Con Un Mon in Morgantown KY.JPG
I've added a little, if the count of 1496 was correct, it should now be well over 1500. Ryan shell (talk) 02:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, let's try it again (the article was expanded):
    • {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help)

Template:Http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/OBITUARIES01/805080334/1060/NEWS01= (I couldn't figure this out.)Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the part about party and use of the phone number. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Cunningham McCormick
Richard Cunningham McCormick

Articles created/expanded on May 11

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Jack Adams
Jack Adams
I just looked up Detroit Red Wings seasons. The Cougars played 44 games per season for 4 seasons, but Adams wasn't the coach for the first season. In three seasons, he coached 132 (3x44) games. The Falcons have even fewer total games played at 92 (44+48). Most of the 900+ games coached by Adams were actually Red Wings games. So, "over 900 games for both the Detroit Cougars and Detroit Falcons" seems rather misleading. --PFHLai (talk) 23:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, please check if the suggested picture of Jack Adams is really PD. The copyright expiry date is not known. --PFHLai (talk) 17:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Too short. Daniel Case (talk) 14:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
or,
or,
Length and references verified. I like the last one the best. Daniel Case (talk) 14:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've now considerably expanded the information on his military career, the only interesting potential hooks on that front are in rather inacessible sources, unless anyone who regularly verfies has access to the Times of 1992 when his obit was published. If it wouldn't push us over the character limit, could we add Major-General in front of his name in the existing hook? David Underdown (talk) 08:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It would be a rather dreary hook, especially for a midnight update. *wink* Maybe make a hook from the Edgar Allan Poe connection; of course, making something less dreary by adding Poe is a bit odd.--Bedford 14:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'd argue that, since the majority of Poe's work is comedy or adventure, adding Poe isn't necessarily dreary but, then again, I've read his full collection. I was hesitant to add the Poe connection because, well, there have been too many Poe DYKs (I wonder whose fault that is?). Even so, here's the alternative:
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Again a hook writes a check the article can't cash. The article and source confirms that he gave away a lot of his work, but says nothing about "dying in poverty". So how about:
...that landscape painter Frank Reaugh kept a lifelong vow to always live in Texas after moving there from Illinois? Daniel Case (talk) 14:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the nom: I'm sure a better hook would be:
Discussion forums are usually not considered reliable sources. Daniel Case (talk) 14:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Daniel Case (talk) 14:11, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on May 10

Stalin, Roosevelt & Churchill
Stalin, Roosevelt & Churchill
I've notified the author. There should be ample time to fix up the citations. --PFHLai (talk) 01:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Verified length and create date.--Rosiestep (talk) 21:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm withdrawing this nomination. A few paragraphs of this article appears to be copy-&-pasted from an article from a Russian website, and therefore a copyvio. --PFHLai (talk) 16:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged as under construction; don't use till it's done. Daniel Case (talk) 02:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Removed UC tag. Still a work in progress (as every article is), but the content stands on its own merit at this point. Resolute 14:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think this hook is correct. It was more like leaving Livingstone behind in the NHA, rather than to remove him from the NHA. Do you mean "the NHL was founded as a means to exclude Livingstone from being a club owner in North American professional ice hockey"? --PFHLai (talk) 16:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
File:Lord.JPG
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Hook fact is apparently uncited. Daniel Case (talk) 03:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 9

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