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February 25

Please (pretty please) convert list to table

Please someone with strong technical skills, change the bulleted list in Nissen Award to a sortable table (year, gymnast, University]]. Also, all the gymnasts and schools should be wikilinked.

(This would be very tedious for me, but I'm sure someon has a semi automated tool to fix this. And I totally appreciate the "leverage" of someone doing that for me so I can get more content itself.)

TCO (talk) 00:08, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I will do it. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:13, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I LUB the people here and at the graphics lab. Makes me feel good about the Wiki how different talents come together (and I am a curmudgeon).TCO (talk) 00:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

TCO has hugged you! Hugs promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better (and hopefully wasn't meant as an invasion of personal space). Spread the WikiLove by hugging at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Hug others by adding {{subst:Hug}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks, done. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:51, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

what is the deal with "authority control"

I just saw this for the first time (some sort of Wiki template or category or navbox) on the bottom of Richard Bradford (novelist). Is it a deprecated tool? An EL (I am fine with ELs, but will just put it in an EL section).

TCO (talk) 02:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi TCO! Take a look at Wikipedia:Authority control for some details on what the template is; basically, its goal is to link Wikipedia articles and their corresponding entries in national libraries and things of that nature. —Theopolisme (talk) 02:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

See the edit I just made?--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:24, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks I was kind of figuring that out now too. Looks pretty new. I am fine with it. Think they could make the template a little prettier and the wording less cryptic (authority control sounds like the page is locked or has been fact checked or something).TCO (talk) 02:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I agree, the name is rather intimidating - reminiscent of Stasi, Gestapo, Thought Police, Spanish Inquisition, etc. Roger (talk) 14:09, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

We did not create the term, so there is not much we can do about it. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 14:19, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Nobody expects Authority Control!--ukexpat (talk) 14:20, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Gadget man...you are one of the best here and a complete gentleman. But there is "something we could do". Just make it authority control (library cataloguing system) or the like. It's not even that the name is ominous...but that it is confusing.206.222.198.12 (talk) 23:43, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Hack for (current) → (top)

I see people are playing around again with the interface. Anyone have the hack for changing (current) back to (top) on your contributions?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:17, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

That message is stored at the MediaWiki:Uctop. It was changed by User:WilliamH who is a crat. Maybe you could start a discussion at the talk page or at the WP:VP or since you are a sysop yourself you could change it back. But the best thing to do is check out the community's opinion and then change it back. Maybe if you make some modifications to your personal common.css page it might change for your account only. I am not very good at css, so maybe someone who is well informed in css could do it for you. As for my opinion, (current) is better. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 10:01, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Ushau for locating the mediawiki origin page. I'm just looking for the hack though, which I expect will be possible through through a change to Special:MyPage/common.css or Special:MyPage/skin.css. If no one answers in few days I'll ask at VPT.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:43, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it's possible in CSS, since you can't generally replace text. You could hide it, I suppose, but that's not what you want. Replacing text is possible in JS, and I did change it once a long time ago just for fun, but then the script has to run every time you look at any contribs page. Anyway the relevant text is <span class="mw-uctop">(current)</span>. —Soap— 18:30, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, apparently it is possible to do that with a CSS code such as

.mw-uctop {

text-replace: "current" "NEWEST KNOWN REVISION!!!!";

}

But you'd need to be using a browser that supports CSS3. There's another way to do it that invovles placing the text you want after the tag and then deleting the tag, but at that point you might as well just use the Javascript. —Soap— 18:47, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

And the Javascript necessary to do this is something like:

document.body.innerHTML= document.body.innerHTML.replace(/current/g,"top");

Only problem with that is that it will replace all instances of the word "current" with "top", so you might want to expand it to be something like >(current)< --> >(top)< . —Soap— 18:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

The Javascript document.body.innerHTML= document.body.innerHTML.replace(/>\(current\)</g,">\(top\)<"); seems to work, but only when I load it as a script after the page is loaded, not before (e.g. my monobook.js page wont work). I'm still hoping there's a better solution, as as I said, the version I came up with runs even in an edit window, which caused me to automatically change the comments up above me to say that "top" was better, without realizing what I had done until about 20 minutes later. —Soap— 19:01, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Editors removed UK Murder Victim page 3 times. Created again

About 5 years ago, a 15 year child from UK was killed in Goa, India. Till today, no one has been convicted for the killing, or any of the senior officials in India resigned for this crime.

Three times over the last few years, someone has created a Wikipedia page for this teenager and each of the 3 times it has been removed by Wikipedia Editors. You can check Wikipedia deletion log to confirm this removal of the profile by Wikipedia Editors.

This month Feb, 2013, someone has created this page again

Scarlett Keeling

And they have left inappropriate comments about the girls mother, who lives in UK, [redacted - if you don't think the comments are appropriate in the article, don't quote them here]

The person creating this profile has written about this teenagers personal life:

(she used drugs and had sex)

All these violate norms set up by Wikipedia on pages for living and deceased people.

Can a Wikipedia Editor look into this and see if this page should be deleted. Or all such personal references removed

P.S - The following is more balanced coverage by mainstream media

• http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/17/scarlett-keeling-goa-trial-murder
• http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8577029.stm
• http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2008-03-13/india/27754497_1_murder-case-anjuna-beach-goa-police
• http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/scarlett-keeling-case-five-years-on-mother-awaits-justice-331858
• http://zeenews.india.com/news/goa/five-years-on-scarlett-keeling-case-in-limbo_829756.html
• http://www.gulf-times.com/india/185/details/343196/five-years-on,-no-justice-for-british-teen-raped-in-goa

Wuser999 (talk) 05:59, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Fixed it a little and tagged for speedy. Admin may wish to salt after deletion.--Canoe1967 (talk) 06:31, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

The murder of Scarlett Keeling featured prominently in the British press, as evidenced by the above references. I believe that she (or maybe the murder) attracted enough attention to qualify as notable. Compare Disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Maproom (talk) 08:13, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

There's no question that the murder was prominent and should be covered here. But does that justify a seperate biography article for her? Just my two cents; I don't get involved in deletions so I admit I'm not the best person to do an in-depth review of such an issue. Chamal ^T•C 09:17, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Redacted some of the above - if you don't think the content is appropriate, don't quote it and make it more prominent. Bencherlite^Talk 08:33, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

SANSIPS

"SANSIPS" was an acronym frequently used by the UK Government in the 1970s as a shorthand to describe items of export or import that were sufficiently large and irregular enough to make the monthly Balance of Payments figure differ significantly from either the same month the previous year of the average balance over the previous twelve months. It stood for "Ships, Aeroplanes N? S? I? and Precious Stones". In those days the UK had a large (if not flourishing) shipbuilding industry and the sale of one or two large vessels would be enough to alter the Balance of Payments figure for that month. The same was true for sales (or purchases, following the loss of commercial aircraft leadership from de Haviland to Boeing) for aircraft. The import of precious stones was also an 'unbalancing' factor. [ What I do NOT remember - and would very much like to be reminded of - is what the N, the S and the I stood for. Can anyone help me? Google comes up with nothing relevant.] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.111.43.104 (talk) 10:39, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Try the Reference Desk, they specialise in questions like that. This help desk is for help editing Wikipedia. Good luck ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 12:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

The NSI part stood for "North Sea installations". Deor (talk) 14:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Wrong Link

Dear team,

there is a wrong link from ZSI (linking to a Canadian Institut) The Web adress of our Centre of Social Innovation in Vienna is: www.zsi.at We kindly ask you to fix this.

Furthermore I was sending about 2 years ago some information in English about our institut, but cant find it on Wikipedia (only can find our contribution in German...)

Thank you Pamela Bartar Centre for Social Innovation (ZSI - Zentrum für Soziale Innovation) Vienna, Austria www.zsi.at — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.170.153.111 (talk) 10:41, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't see any article Centre of Social Innovation here at English Wikipedia. The article is about a Canadian Centre for (not of) Social Innovation. So we can't change the link to another website. Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 10:51, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I have removed that entry from the ZSI disambiguation page, as the letters "ZSI" are not relevant to the Canadian organisation. A Wikipedia article about your organisation may be possible; the place to ask would be Requested articles. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:08, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I found this picture

Of my father, who while living in the U.S. posed alongside veterans of WWI, WWII and the Korean War, with the last veteran of the American Civil War, Albert Woolson. Is it possible that it's on the internet? Kotjap (talk) 11:20, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Are you asking how to upload it? There are some instructions on this matter listed at WP:UPI, but they can be kind of complicated. The easiest way for you to upload the image is to go to Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. From there you will be guided through the process in a pretty easy-to-understand way. There is already an image of Albert Woolson at the article you linked, but it is non-free so if you're willing to freely license your image then it might be a good replacement for the current image. -Thibbs (talk) 17:49, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

If you are instead asking whether the image exists anywhere on the internet, then the answer depends. If this was a personal photo taken on a single personal camera then the image will only exist online if you, your father, or someone who had access to the camera uploaded it. If it was a photo taken by an organization like the military or a veterans group then they might have uploaded it as well. It's hard to know for sure unless you search for it. One simple way of doing this is to search for keywords related to the photo on Google Images. I have heard of other more complicated techniques involving facial recognition programs like Picasa, but I have never done it myself so I'd be unable to help you with that. -Thibbs (talk) 17:54, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Help with a Wikiproject banner

Dear Editors: I was looking at the John Dopyera article and I noticed that it had a Wikiproject Classical Music banner on the talk page. This surprised me, since this man was the creator of the resonator guitar, not normally a classical music instrument. When I looked at the tag, though, it says Wikiproject Contemporoary music, which would seem to be the opposite. It displays as Classical music. Is this an error? —Anne Delong (talk) 11:37, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Looks like Wikiproject Contemporary Music is now a taskforce under Wikiproject Classical Music. It was moved in 2010 due to inactivity. So this would mean that all articles that previously belonged to contemporary music would be now under classical music, since the templates would have been altered to reflect this change. Chamal ^T•C 12:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I checked the Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/Contemporary music task force page, and they say that the scope of their project is Classical music written in the past 50 years. I am going to remove the tag from the John Dopyera article, since he was not involved with this topic. —Anne Delong (talk) 23:13, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Enforcement of a corruption of historical facts by voting?

Pardon my English because I am a German speaker. A few weeks ago I revised some untenable assertions at the article Social market economy. Another German user reverted my revisions and because of the resulting edit war an administrator blocked the article in my version. The other German user put pressure on the administrator and the administrator promised to alter the article if the other German user can find supporters and get majority. After that the other German user rounded up several users in the German and English wikipedia. This group of users voted for an alteration of the introductory section although nobody of this group can reason why the introductory section needs to be altered. My repetitious question what is incorrect about the current introductory section never has been responded. Instead they submitted always new suggestions for lead ignoring all my justified objections against that suggestions. Now they are voting for a suggestion for lead that is provable a corruption of historical facts. The statements of this suggestion are not verified by the cited sources and are counterfactual as I demonstrated explicitly a bunch of times. Can it really be true that this false assertions can be pushed through by voting? --Mr. Mustard (talk) 12:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Is this a question about German Wikipedia (de.wikipedia) or about English Wikipedia (en.wikipedia)? If it's about German Wikipedia then I don't know the answer, but if this is about English Wikipedia then the answer is no. Voting is not a substitute for consensus here. See WP:VOTE. If this other German editor has been recruiting other like-minded editors to vote the same as he does without paying attention to consensus then this is called vote stacking (or in the worst case scenario meat-puppetry) and it is forbidden. You should be cautious about making this accusation, though, because it is a serious one. Sometimes when everyone is arguing against you then it's worth considering that you may be wrong yourself. I'm not saying that this is the case in the matter at hand, but I just want you to exercise caution before charging anyone with anything like this. -Thibbs (talk) 18:03, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure why Thibbs thought that the question might have been about the German Wikipedia (and I see that you are no longer permitted to edit there). There has obviously been edit-warring on Social market economy and you are both lucky not to have been blocked for violation of WP:3RR. The article is fully protected until the dispute is resolved. The admin who protected the article said nothing about "majority"; he referred to "consensus" and "civil discussion". If you are unaware of the English Wikipedia's concept of consensus, please read WP:Consensus. I see that there was a previous attempt to take this to DRN but there was no discussion there. If you fail to reach agreement at Talk:Social market economy then you'll have to follow one of the paths outlined at WP:DR. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:07, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Just to clarify: I asked because of the line "After that the other German user rounded up several users in the German and English wikipedia" (emphasis added). The editor also suggested that the heart of this dispute was between himself (a German speaker) and another German editor. I hadn't checked the block records at de.wikipedia, but next time that would probably be a good idea for me to do. -Thibbs (talk) 19:14, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

At German Wikipedia (de.wikipedia) there are also rules like WP:VOTE or WP:Consensus but in practice there are some domains where some groups can determine what is written in articles by majority even if that is counterfactual and not verified by the cited sources. The German editors that has been recruited to the conflict around the English article Social market economy are such a group. I already called some German Newspapers attention to this fact and they wrote about that but this didn't break the power of these groups. I hoped that this is different at en.wikipedia but this makes me fear that it is the same here. Maybe it is just the language barrier but I interpret this discussion that a general consensus can be reached despite my objection that the suggestion is counterfactual and not verified by the cited sources. That way a small group can overrule constitutive principles like WP:Verifiability or WP:NOR. --Mr. Mustard (talk) 21:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

There are principles and then there is practice. In principle WP:V is one of the primary guiding policies informing WP:CONS, but in practice it is true that small numbers of biased POV-warriors can cause a serious disruption. If this is the case here, and if you feel that the discussion (I see a lengthy and ongoing discussion at the talk page you linked) has reached an impasse, then you can take the issue to Dispute Resolution. The issue is clearly a lengthy one and I haven't read through the whole discussion nor am I familiar with economics so I'm not qualified to weigh in on it, but if I were you I'd only go to Dispute Resolution as a last step. Discussion that is directed at adherence to the policies is usually the best way to resolve disagreements. -Thibbs (talk) 23:50, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Concerning the contents the issue is not really a lengthy one. The controversial point of issue is that the others wants to characterise the social market economy by collective bargaining and social insurance schemes [1]. They wants to verify this assertion with that source although a glossary of a newspaper is not a reliable source and the terms "collective bargaining" and "social insurance" do not occur in this source. This perception of "social market economy" traces back to usage of the label by the DGB since the 1990ies. This perception is quite commonplace today but it is the exact opposite of the original conception of Ludwig Erhard [2][3][4]. This is why it is history-falsifying to write that social market economy in the understanding of Erhard is characterise by collective bargaining and social insurance schemes when Erhard was a bitter opponent of social insurance schemes [5].

The discussion has reached an impasse but this is not the actual problem. The actual problem is the risk that this distortion of history will be transferred to article by voting. But maybe I just have misinterpreted the words of the administrator who blocked the article. --Mr. Mustard (talk) 13:22, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

My words were thus: Please seek outside input on the article by using the methods described at WP:DR, perhaps by using the procedure outlined at WP:RFC or seek other, as-yet-uninvolved editors with expertise in the area, such as users at Wikipedia:WikiProject Economics, and develop a consensus by expanding the number of involved users to include those that have, as yet, made significant contributions nor have any stake in the current dispute. Those will continue to be my words until consensus is reached. I should note, however, that characterizing people who disagree with you in terms like "distortion of history" does not reflect well, and you should in the future consider choosing different terms and characterizations when trying to work through a dispute civilly. --Jayron32 13:33, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Jayron32. The help desk isn't really the place to discuss article content. We can direct you to Dispute Resolution (and I think Jayron32's suggestion of RfC or 3O are the best places to start if you go that route), and I think Jayron32's suggestion of posting a question at WikiProject Economics is a very good idea too. It sounds like you really need additional editors with knowledge in this area to look at this issue with you. If your differing view of the matter is notable based on the support of reliably sourced facts then it can usually be incorporated in the article at least as a counterpoint to the current article's point. -Thibbs (talk) 14:24, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

The only thing I want to know is if a consensus can be reached and the page can be unlocked and updated without regard to my dissents. If you say there is no risk so I feel much less stress. If "distortion of history" is not the adequate English term for this object I am happy to learn more adequate wording. But "distortion of history" was refered to a situation and not to persons. --Mr. Mustard (talk) 14:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

The broader you go in looking for other editors' input, the stronger the consensus that can be formed. So if WikiProject Economics members form a consensus then it will probably trump the consensus that has formed at the specific article's talk page. Consensus can certainly be reached even if there are dissenting voices. It's not a vote, but it's a rule-based discussion and usually the rules (policy and guideline) can be clearly understood on the point under discussion. The page can most likely be unlocked in the future unless it's been the target of heavy vandalism. -Thibbs (talk) 14:30, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. I note that someone did leave a brief message at the economics project talk page, but this may have been missed. There's several lists of project participants linked from the Wikipedia:WikiProject Economics page; I suggest leaving a specific note requesting input at their user talk page to see if more outside voices can be found. --Jayron32 15:48, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Don & Dan McCann Twins

I' curious how a page created about fictional characters well known nationally qualify for deletion, and a page for Bart Simpson doesn't.

Newsflash: It's the same! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronmaestri (talk • contribs) 12:58, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

You have to demonstrate that the McCanns have been covered by solid reliable sources: books, academic journal articles, or news sources that endure over a substantial period of time. That's plainly the case for the Simpsons, and it's entirely possible that it isn't the case for the McCanns. You'll note that many of our articles don't demonstrate coverage by solid reliable sources; that's a problem with those pages, as they need either to have those sources added or to be deleted. Nyttend (talk) 13:31, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

You say they are "well known nationally", and the article says "from national television commercials". But you don't specify what nation you mean. They (unlike Bart Simpson) are not well known here in the UK. Maproom (talk) 13:58, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Whenever you see such unspecified use of terms like "nationally", "our nation", "the government (or any government department or agency)", or similar expressions here on WP, it is absolutely certain that it was written by a Yank. Roger (talk) 14:37, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Normally, I'd agree with you. But as an American, I've never heard of Don and Dan McCann. Dismas|^(talk) 14:53, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

They are fictional characters created and portrayed by actor Ron Maestri in television commercials shown somewhere in the United States for the obscure company Consumer Cellular: aren't they... User:Ronmaestri? See WP:AUTO and WP:PROMOTE. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:27, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

The only thing User:Ronmaestri has ever tried to do here was to attempt to put promotional "articles" in here, first about himself (starting over two years ago), then about these characters he says he plays in commercials I've never seen or heard of for an allegedly national U.S. company that I (an American) have never heard of. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:33, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

(Feeding the troll) I've no idea who they are, nor, it seems, does almost everyone else, based on search results. They certainly haven't been written about in any reliable source, nor should they as one/two of thousands of non-notable characters created for ads every year. I know a number of hard-working actors – some famous and some not so much. Comparing your work in a commercial with a character that represents hundreds of man-decades of work, and is watched by millions of people every week for decades, would be routinely laughed at by all of them, and is unlikely to earn you any respect at all. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:04, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Ron Maestri is the actor who portrays the McCann twins, so this is a case of WP:COI, WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and WP:SPAM. RNealK (talk) 23:25, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

How to use the same reference multiple times?

There's an article where various editors over time have cited the same Rolling Stone article about five times. Each time, they link it as if it hasn't been linked before. I know there's a way to have the link appear just one time in the references section, but I'm not sure how. How's it done? --Mr. Billion (talk) 14:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Instead of using <ref>details of reference</ref>, use <ref name="name of source">details of reference</ref> for the first instance of the reference. For subsequent instances, use <ref name="name of source"/> (note the slash). This will generate a link to the preexisting citation. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

You can also run the page through the reflinks tool, which will locate and correct duplicate references automatically. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:49, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Note that you don't have to use "name of source"; you can simply do <ref name=referencename>details</ref> if you want, but you must be careful to make it just one word if you omit the quotes. Note, too, that these reference names are case-sensitive. Since the ref name is purely for citation purposes, you can pick whatever name you want for the reference. Nyttend (talk) 15:15, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

• To see the above in action, have a look at reference 4 in this version of our Roy Chaplin article. Reference 4 is first defined in the 'Hawker' section as part of this sentence '... dangerous for use as a military aircraft.<ref name="Hurricane">{{Citation ...}}</ref>' then used twice more in the article as '<ref name="Hurricane"/>'. In this case, and as stated above, we can dispense with the quotes. I usually use quotes whether or not there are spaces in the name --Senra (talk) 17:04, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

All further explained at WP:NAMEDREFS.--ukexpat (talk) 17:04, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Also note that the full reference need not be in the first instance – it just needs to be anywhere in the article (some, like myself, like to use the {{reflist|refs=...}} format).

Also note that <ref name=ABC /> is different from <ref name="ABC" /> and that the cite toolbar and forms, annoyingly, will quote-wrap a name (which you put in the "Ref" field) that contains spaces, but will not quote-wrap a single-word (e.g. ABC becomes name=ABC, but ABC DEF becomes name="ABC DEF"). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 21:01, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

To the contrary, quotes are unneeded when you have a single word; see the Texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext lines here for an example. <ref name=nris> is defined in the infobox; Texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext lines 1, 3, and 5 use <ref name=nris />, while Texttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttexttext lines 2, 4, and 6 use <ref name="nris" />, and as you can see, they have the same appearance and work the same way. Nyttend (talk) 05:33, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Why was my content removed?

Why was my content removed from this page?

List of tools for static code analysis

I added a tool to the list on Friday, and checked today only to find it was deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmminera (talk • contribs) 15:04, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

It was removed in this edit. Psychonaut removed it because there's no McCabe IQ article. Please write the article before restoring the content, since every other entry has an article. Nyttend (talk) 15:17, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

...assuming, of course, that the product is notable enough for an article (i.e. it has been written about in multiple third-party reliable sources). The HTML comment at the top of the article in question makes it clear that it's a list article, the only purpose of which is to list (other) Wikipedia articles. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:09, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

PACIFIC DRIFT entry removed... :-(

I was told that while there was a Wimple Winch addition there was not a Pacific Drift page despite being practically the same band AND more successful too! So 2 days ago i took it apon myself to rectify this. however I checked it today & receive this message-

"This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. 17:12, 24 February 2013 INeverCry (talk | contribs) deleted page Pacific Drift (A7: Article about an eligible subject, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)"

despite the fact that this is a band that had a record deal & are having a series of CD reissues out in the summer.

How do I reinstate my contribution or ask another to do their version..? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merseymale (talk • contribs) 16:45, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

First take a look at WP:BAND for the notability guidelines for bands. Then, if you think this band meets those guidelines, please follow the articles for creation process to create the article.--ukexpat (talk) 17:07, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Copyright and the quoting of an OED definition

I have a tendency to quote attributed OED content on noticeboards, help-desks and talk-pages such as here and here. What is the copyright position when quoting one part of a definition (as above) or quoting one quotation from a definition as I did here? I examined the copyright noticeboards prior to posting here; they all seem to concentrate on media copyright issues --Senra (talk) 16:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd say it's appropriate, since it's transformative and not replaceable; you're using it in order to bring the OED into play in the situation, and because of its authority nothing else would suffice. While policy officially doesn't permit nonfree material in projectspace, we frequently include chunks of nonfree text on pages such as WP:AN; a short definition from OED, used transformatively (and dictionary definitions are meant to be quoted anyway), is substantially less of a problem than a paragraph used at WP:AN for an investigation. Nyttend (talk) 17:00, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

What does "transformative" mean in this context? Roger (talk) 11:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/9-b.html

• Has the material you have taken from the original work been transformed by adding new expression or meaning?
• Was value added to the original by creating new information, new aesthetics, new insights, and understandings?

--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't emphasize the issue of a quotation's transformative nature, myself. I think the key point here is that it represents minimal usage. Quoting a single definition from a dictionary has zero market impact on the dictionary and it's clearly being done here for nonprofit purposes. Public record court cases very frequently quote dictionary definitions and if they can do it then certainly you can too. It's definitely fair use. -Thibbs (talk) 16:14, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the unexplained jargon; Sarek got at what I meant. This is a good example of another appropriate quotation — nothing's wrong with quoting the Stanford website, and the text from the website is itself what we're getting at, so paraphrasing wouldn't be as useful. Nyttend (talk) 16:43, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Thank you everyone. Very useful --Senra (talk) 22:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

uploaded photos

How do I find or search for photos that I've uploaded to Commons? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fearless LeChien (talk • contribs) 22:13, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Top right of your commons page is an 'uploads' link as well as on the left sidebar of users.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:26, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Your commons contribution record. - David Biddulph (talk) 22:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Updating or Editing webpage

Every time I try to update the Wikipedia page for Senator Bob Huff, Dino76 comes right in to erase everything. He's won some additional awards since the last time I edited his page, yet Dino76 erases it all.

Look, I understand that Bob Huff doesn't own his Wikipedia page. I've been told this. I've communicated it to him. We both understand that the Wikipedia page is owned by Wikipedia. While I may suggest changes, or try to make them, it appears that Dino76 has unlimited ability to erase everything I try to update.

I find it rather disturbing, however, that Dino76's efforts to keep this page static are directed just at me. In other words? Other users have made changes to this page that are incorrect. These additions to his page aren't changed, until I make them. And Dino76 erases most, if not all of them.

Please, what do I need to do to update this page to reflect the latest news or accomplishments of the Senate Republican Leader? I understand that you want to keep this page as factual as possible. But not allowing me to list Legislator of the Year awards that he won last year, while the same Legislator of the Year awards for 2011 are kept up on the page, seems a little confusing.

And please do not let Dino76 get away with the lame argument of: "it's not on his State Senate page." Because I'm in charge of updating that page as well.

Thank you,

Bill Bird — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billbird2111 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

It appears that 72Dino has repeatedly asked you to to post your suggested changes at the talk page in line with WP:COI - Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest guidelines. Because you are the communications director for Senator Bob Huff you have a clear conflict of interest. If you post your suggestions at the talk page (Talk:Bob Huff) then they can be reviewed by the community and if they are deemed neutral then the information can be added. At this point 72Dino is just following standard protocol for dealing with conflicted editors. If he unfairly responds to your talk page suggestions then perhaps there is cause for concern regarding his edits, but currently he is treating this as a Conflict of Interest case and for what it's worth I agree with him. Please review WP:COI to better understand the central issue. -Thibbs (talk) 00:35, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I left a note on Billbird2111's talk page recommending citing reliable sources as a way to prevent removal. RJFJR (talk) 01:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

February 26

There is a factual error on my Wikopedia page

There is a factual error on my Wikopedia page [6].

I was born on NOvember 10 in 1948, NOT 1946.

Thank you in advance for correcting the error.

Sincerely,

Jay Bergman

72.195.144.213 (talk) 01:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I removed the entire birthdate as it was not in the source.--Canoe1967 (talk) 01:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Problem embedding Template:Multiple images within Template:Infobox book

Hello -- Please see the image in the infobox at the top of the book article on God Makes the Rivers to Flow. On my browser (Firefox), the very top of the infobox displays the garbage/error characters:

[[File: |frameless|alt=|]]

How can I eliminate those characters? I suspect they are a byproduct of having embedded the Template:Multiple images within the Template:Infobox book. But such embedding is very desirable, to permit the covers of the abridged and unabridged editions to be displayed simultaneously (since they are of more or less equal interest, and both are described in the article).

What can be done?

Many thanks in advance -- Presearch (talk) 01:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

{{Infobox book}} doesn't support the use of a template in its image parameter. You're supposed to give only the image as a bare file name (example.jpg) which the template then wraps in a [[File: ]] wiki markup. Since the template has no way to identify that you have given another template instead, it treats it the same way as a bare file name and wraps it as above. The {{multiple image}} template does its job and displays the images, but it's now wrapped in an invalid wiki markup (since it's syntactically incorrect) which apparently the mediawiki software treats as plain text and displays. You could modify the infobox to accommodate the multiple image template, or you could take the easier route and display only a single image in the infobox. Chamal ^T•C 03:14, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Or if you really want the two images together, why not use an external image editor to make a new image that combines them, and then upload and use it? Chamal ^T•C 03:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Dear Chamal, thank you for all those good explanations and helpful ideas! Best regards -- Presearch (talk) 18:08, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

here, I've taken a whack at addressing this. Feel free to revert or improve. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:04, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Dear Wtmitchell (Bill), thank you for those fixes -- I like them and expect to keep them! Best regards -- Presearch (talk) 18:08, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I recently had similar remarks for {{Infobox WorldScouting}}. Since {{infobox}} now supports a second image, I added it to WorldScouting, allowing the full image parameter set to be used. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:02, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Shotgun Alley

Shotgun Alley — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dolheguy1976 (talk • contribs) 02:54, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia:Notability (music) help?--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

"last warning"

I received the message below:

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User talk:71.34.74.118 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to 1916 Cumberland vs. Georgia Tech football game, you will be blocked from editing. Dlong 00:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

---

For some reason, I don't think I was logged in on my account but the message was directed to me (confirmed by IP).

This warning is not related to any editing activity I have ever done.

I am a very inexperienced editor of wikipedia. If there is another place to report this kind of message please let me know.

PetronellaMG (talk) 06:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

If you haven't edited that article, you can safely ignore the warning as it wouldn't have been directed at you. When using dynamic IPs the IP address changes regularly, which means the IP address you have is not permanent and can be reallocated to another user at a different time. Because of this, messages directed at IPs may sometimes be received by a different user than whom they were intended for. This particular warning is from 2007, so I'd say this was probably what happened. Anyway, if you are logged in to your account when editing, you won't get the messages directed at your IP. Chamal ^T•C 06:37, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

When posting a cite, i get an error message

When posting a Cite or reference, i get this error message: "Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{Reflist|group=The Communicator}} template or a <references group="The Communicator"/> tag; see the help page."

Also, how do i change the name of my article? Curently it says User: than my user name.

Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petersabbagh (talk • contribs)

What you created is a User Page. Generally people use their user page to talk about themselves and the work that they do here at Wikipedia. What you want to do is create an article. What you currently have though would not pass our notability guideline because there are no references to secondary sources. You might want to have a look at Your First Article to learn more. But also, you might want to read our Conflict of Interest policy if you are affiliated with Mr. Sabbagh in any way. Oh, and the reason you're getting that error is because you don't have a references section for your references to be displayed in. Again, read the Your First Article link that I just posted. Dismas|^(talk) 08:11, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Also, there seems to be an identical article already at That DJ Ell. Dismas|^(talk) 08:15, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

The error message linked to a help page— did it help? — Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 16:48, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

please create information about this unversity

http://www.wfkjxy.com.cn/english/Procedure.htm

I teach here, and wish it to be known — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.161.54.147 (talk) 06:35, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

If you think that the university meets Wikipedia's notability guideline and the topic has received significant coverage in independent and reliable sources, then you could request the article to be created via this page.--Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 12:32, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Author removing AfD

I AfD'd Chris Murray (RAAF) and the author has reverted it - twice. How can I stop him doing this again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbawden (talk • contribs)

Snotbot will be automatically adding AfD template if the discussion is still open, so you don't need to worry. If you think it is a serious matter, you could report it at WP:ANI. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 12:12, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

When someone removes an AfD template you can warn them with the template series {{uw-afd1}}, {{uw-afd2}}, {{uw-afd3}}, {{uw-afd4}} and if they don't stop after receiving the higher level warnings, you can report for blocking, as noted above, at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. In this case the bot that reverted the removal warned the editor, and they are in fact are blocked right now for 24 hours. This pattern (find appropriate warning; escalate to higher level warnings upon repeated violation; report after they continue) is typical and extendable to other situations. Please see Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace (WP:UTM) for the various categories of vandalism we see often, and their warning series. Note that to make an actionable report at WP:AIV, the user usually must have received a higher level warning, repeated the action despite that warning, and the report should be made within a short time frame after the repeated action.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:38, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Missing Neighbourhood in Mumbai

Resolved

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Neighbourhoods_in_Mumbai

The above page does not have Kurla, which is a prominent neighbourhood in Mumbai. It has the city's first township city and one of the biggest malls Phoenix Marketcity. Kindly add it in your list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.125.15.89 (talk) 08:03, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Kurla have now been added to the category. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 12:35, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Same reference, two different urls

I've just submitted an article on John Sackville [7] to Wikipedia's Did You Know? project. I've listed the reference to Douglas Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry twice, with two different urls, because there are two different pages I'd like readers to be able to get to directly when they click on the reference. Is there another way I can do this, and still have readers taken directly to each of the two urls? Any help with this would be much appreciated. NinaGreen (talk) 08:07, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

It's a matter of personal preference, but I'd go with something like this:

• Richardson, Douglas (2011). Magna Carta Ancestry, ed. by Kimball C. Everingham. Vol. I (2nd ed.). Salt Lake City, Utah. pp. 338, 385–386. Retrieved 25 February 2013. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

Here I've merged the pages into one string and I cut down the URL so that it only points to the book instead of the page. Readers can surely visit the specific page given the clues in the rest of the ref. And frankly, for a ref like this a URL is just a courtesy. Books don't always have URLs so none is required. -Thibbs (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Another option would be to create a non-template ref and to link the book to the generic URL while also linking the pages to the specific pages mentioned. So in other words, something like this:

• <ref>Richardson, Douglas (2011). ''[http://books.google.ca/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC Magna Carta Ancestry, ed. by Kimball C. Everingham]''. '''I''' (2nd ed.). Salt Lake City, Utah. pp. [http://books.google.ca/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=PA338 338], [http://books.google.ca/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=PA385 385-6]. Retrieved 25 February 2013.</ref>

which would render as:

• Richardson, Douglas (2011). Magna Carta Ancestry, ed. by Kimball C. Everingham. I (2nd ed.). Salt Lake City, Utah. pp. 338, 385-6. Retrieved 25 February 2013.

-Thibbs (talk) 14:43, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the help with this. NinaGreen (talk) 19:33, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

After actually looking at John Sackville (died 1557), I see it uses Shortened footnotes. Currently, it is a bit odd, as there are page numbers in the shortened citations and the long citations, and the long citation is duplicated and also includes page numbers. You can link the pages in {{harvnb}}:

{{Harvnb|Richardson|2011|pp=[http://books.google.ca/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=PA385 385-6]}}

Then you create the long citation and link only to the entire book. --— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:57, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Citroën Xsara Picasso

Hey, can i safely change this link: {{DEFAULTSORT:Citroen Xsara Picasso}}
to this: {{DEFAULTSORT:Citroën Xsara Picasso}} without breaking it? Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 09:43, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

According to the second paragraph at WP:SORTKEY, it should be left as "Citroen". -- John of Reading (talk) 10:32, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

And right you are John. I should have checked the C3 Picasso article first. Thanks for the speedy reply ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 11:02, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Help needed to make an article live!!!

Hi,

I am Animesh and I work for a company which is known as Biztradeshows. It is an online platform that envisions to become a directory for events, trade fairs, exhibitions, expos and trade shows. It is continuously growing and making its mark as its mother concern i.e. Indiamart Intermesh Ltd.

The help needed is for understanding one thing that why the article named Biztradeshows got deleted two times since 2009 till 2013. Two times this article was submitted but got deleted by sighting out errors which were not present in the article.

Recently on 25^th of February 2013 the article was published and got deleted on the very same day. It becomes really hard to understand that Biztradeshows got deleted when I can see that several articles are live who have same issues or were the case looks similar.

Biztradeshows needs to be made live and I need help in doing so. Please help me so that I could make the page live again.

Regards,

Animesh Raj Vardhan

Animesh.rajvardhan (talk) 09:44, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Animesh, the argument that there are other articles much worse doesn't usually make much difference as each is acted upon by different people at different times and some articles in a terrible state can stay like that for years. If conflict of interest is likely to be an issue, especially since you work at the company, then you should not be the one to create the article and AFC is the place to go. Otherwise your only remaining hurdle would be to get neutral, reliable sources, which aren't from the company website. Without verifiable sources you will never get an article. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 10:11, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Animesh, your phrases "envisions to become" and "It is continuously growing" seem to admit that this business is not yet notable. Wikipedia articles should be about subjects which are notable now, or were once notable. I suggest that you wait until Biztradeshows has become notable, before trying to get an article about it on Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 13:58, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Specifically, I recommend you read "Wikipedia: Up-and-coming next big thing". --Orange Mike | Talk 16:15, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

no sound on investigation channel

Good morning i have not had sound on my channel since last night plz adjust the sound since that is my fav channel ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.204.215.236 (talk) 10:20, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Roger (talk) 10:27, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Article on Obaidullah Aleem

Resolved

Obaidullah Aleem

The last line is complete distortion, ppl of pakistan who love poetry consider him one of the greatest urdu poet. His religious believe are mentioned in such deragatory manner. Whoever edited its has clear hatred toward him due to his religious belief and used dergatory words like dog toward him. Please fix this.

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.152.245.248 (talk) 11:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

It seems you have already removed those from the page. Thanks for reverting vandalism. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 12:20, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

KGRB Radio (defunct)

My name is Gloria Burdette and I am the daughter of the deceased owner of KGRB radio, "Bob Burdette." The information that you are using from reference "Steven Ray" is totally inaccurate and misrepresenting. Please contact me for corrections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.87.142.73 (talk) 14:40, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Firstly nobody will contact you, this page is where you'll find all responses. None of the article's content is referenced to "Steven Ray". There is only an External link listed to what looks like a personal website that seems to belong to a "Steven Ray". If you wish to add material to the article you should post it to Talk:KGRB (defunct), because you have a close personal connection to the subject you should not edit the article directly. Note however that information added to articles must be referenced to published material only, your personal knowlege cannot be verified. Any unreferenced material currently in the article can be challenged and removed if no reliable source can be found for it. Roger (talk) 15:31, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Bluegrass music WikiProject

Dear Editors: There are a lot of articles in Wikipedia related to Bluegrass music (about 400 with direct links to the page, and 740 or so which include the phrase) and Bluegrass bands (740 with this phrase), as well as many articles about bluegrass organizations, festivals, etc. Many of these are stubs or have no references. I have been trying to fix these up, but there are too many, and I am not knowledgeable enough in some areas. I have been trying to get some interest in starting a Wikiproject to fix some of these up and add some new ones. I put notices on the Country Music and Roots Music Wikiproject talk pages, and read the material about how to start a Wikiproject. I have started collecting information and listing tasks on my user page at: User:Anne Delong/Bluegrass Topics. I know that in order to start a Wikiproject I need to find some editors to join in. There was no response from members of the related Wikiprojects. Is there somewhere else I should post to try to find collaborators? There must be a lot of interest out there; someone has created all of these pages! —Anne Delong (talk) 15:01, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I definitely support your efforts here, and thanks for the great initiative! It's hard to get a WikiProject going, unfortunately, because joining one often represents a large time commitment. Some editors are also wary of joining small not-yet-established WikiProjects. One option you might pursue is to start a WP:TASKFORCE instead. This way you could be affiliated with the Country Music and/or Roots Music Wikiprojects and you might be able to attract more casual editors. Taskforces can always expand to become full WikiProjects later down the road. Apart from that, though, I'm not sure what your best option would be. There are other related Wikiprojects like Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians and Wikipedia:WikiProject Music, and you could try posting at their talk pages too. Apart from this the only thing I can think of is to try to gin up off-wiki support at internet forums where other bluegrass fans might hang out and who might be interested in joining Wikipedia to improve the bluegrass articles. I hope that helps. -Thibbs (talk) 15:44, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I see the Bluegrass music article is rated as "Top importance" by WP:WikiProject Country Music, the only project to rate it so high. Given that rating, a possible Bluegrass Task Force would probably fit in best with the Country project. Roger (talk) 16:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; it doesn't matter to me if it's a project or a task force; either way Wikipedia's guidelines say it must be a group. Until I find some others it won't happen. I'll keep looking, and in the mean time I'll plug away. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:01, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorting Problem at List of Longest Wooden Ships

Ok, so I was looking at List of longest wooden ships and I clicked on the table and sorted by Service (that is, years in service). My problem is this: two of the ships don't sort properly. I've figured out why: the service for Peter von Danzig is given as "Before 1462-Late 1470s" and the service for Caligula's Giant Ship is "ca. 37". So since the entries begin with letters instead of numbers, these two ships end up out of place at one end of the list when you sort by "Service". Any idea how to fix this without changing the wording? Otherwise, I could just re-word the entires so that the year is first. Howicus (talk) 17:34, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Entries can always be encased in {{sort}}; for example, {{sort|123|bgdbgydoygbodrgbu}} will display as bgdbgydoygbodrgbu, but it will sort between 122 and 124. See it in action at Vinegar Hill Historic District, where a table lists some addresses as "number, street", but it sorts by "street, number". Nyttend (talk) 18:33, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll go try it out. Howicus (talk) 19:56, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Page Error

Apologies - in trying to rectify an error in a link re Mike and the Mechanics I may have deleted info In the info box on the right side of the page, Past Members should include Paul Young In trying to rectify an incorrect link Paul Young (Mike + The Mechanics). I deleted the name The correct Paul Young (ex-vocalist) and correct link is shown in the first few lines I cannot seem to rectify the error Many thanks JH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.42.153 (talk) 18:31, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

NB on the principle that disambiguated titles should be as general as possible, I have moved this article to Paul Young (singer born 1947).--ukexpat (talk) 19:25, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Need to stop others editing

Jerry Heller (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I am the webmaster for this Living Person. The person this page is about corrected incorrect statements that have been posted yesterday. I keep having editors come by and change what the subject has corrected. I need to know how to get them to stop changing the content that has been corrected by the living person.Jerry Heller

Thanks, sandy Theweblady (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:57, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Please see WP:OWN and WP:COI. If the subject has issues with the article, they are encouraged to discuss them on the article's talk page. It is not acceptable to make unreferenced additions to the article just because the subject wants the material in it.--ukexpat (talk) 19:16, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

That being said, if the subject of an article (or a representative, if the subject is unwilling to participate here) has concerns and discusses them on the article's talk page rather than just changing the article, they usually find a bunch of folks who want to help by finding citations for the material if they can. Give it a try. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:11, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Why are you only using women to depict sexual acts?

Hello,

I was reading an article on Cracked about wikipedia and pictures of sexual positions such as this one Facial (sex act)

and I am appalled that you are only using women to illustrate these acts. Gay men suddenly do not have sex? Or is it that you like to simply objectify women?

I find the fact that you only use women to be extremely sexist. You should really re-think this.65.93.15.135 (talk) 21:38, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Comment: cracked article is here in case anyone's curious. —Soap— 21:45, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

As the article mentions, most of the illustrations were done by the same person. I'm sure, were someone to create a similar image featuring two men (or two women, as applicable) it would be considered. In any case, statistically speaking, only a small percentage of all sex is of a homosexual nature, so one would expectation a small proportion of our illustrations to be too. - Jarry1250 ^{[Vacation needed]} 21:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

We are not "only using women" (and commons:Category:Facial cumshot shows this would have been possible for the subject). There is one man and one woman in each of the two pictures in Facial (sex act). Given statistics of heterosexuals and homosexuals, that's what you would expect from a sample of only two random couples. Wikipedia has lots of articles about and pictures of homosexuals. See Category:LGBT for a start. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Also, wikipedia is a work in progress and there are many articles which are not fully complete. The absence of a fact doesn't mean that Wikipedia is against it or trying to cover it up. Chamal ^T•C 02:19, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

And also, images in articles on sexual topics are usually thoroughly discussed in the article's talk page. You'd be amazed at the length of some of the debates that have gone on. Should we use cartoons or real images? Should editors be able to upload pictures of their own bodies? Should images depict attractive-looking genitals or plain ones? Shaved or unshaved? Cut or uncut? Which race? Which orientation? There are infinite variations of these image-related questions on the talk pages of the sexual topic articles. Good for a laugh, honestly. I just assume that whatever images are posted on those pages have been approved by the consensus of a large panel of devoted Wikipedians or will soon be changed without us troubling ourselves about it. -Thibbs (talk) 02:52, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

As a comparison, the article on Anal Sex has 5 m->m, 2 m->f, 1 f->f (anilingus) and 1 f->m (pegging). Fellatio has 4 f->m and 1 m->m (and one set of opposite sex fruit bats). Cunnilingus has 3 m->f and 2 f->f. My guess is that any effort to make any of these articles opposite gender only would quickly die on a WP:CENSOR argument among others.Naraht (talk) 15:14, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

How to locate an article to edit

I just joined and edited one article. I navigated away from that page. I would like to help by editing one more short article before I log off. Where do I go to find one that needs help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montykillies (talk • contribs) 23:28, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

You can check out Wikipedia:Community portal for some ways to help out. Scarce2 (talk) 00:40, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

There is also a useful tool called SuggestBot. It normally looks at your edit history to find articles that need attention that it "thinks" you might be interested in; but in your case (only edited one article) you can use a feature for specifying topics (articles and categories) related to your interests, and it will find associated needy articles (see this documentation for details). ~Good luck, and happy editing! ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 03:42, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

February 27

geography

kisne kaha tha prathvi goal hai — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2002:DFBA:E1D7:0:0:0:DFBA:E1D7 (talk) 04:56, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

• This is English Wikipedia. From the geolocation of your IP, I'm guessing you're looking for mr:मुखपृष्ठ. Good luck. -Thibbs (talk) 05:08, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Help

this edit seems to have screwed up Jahlil Okafor's page.

 Fixed ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 06:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. What did you do?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:03, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Frankly, I'm not sure -lol- I simply indented to indicate nested bracket syntax, and ... presto-magico. ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 07:24, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I think it has something to do with a parse error when pipes and asterisks share 1^st position within template (?). ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 07:42, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Template variables for number of visits or number of page views?

On my user page, I use the following wikimarkup...

<div><font size="2">As of {{CURRENTDAYNAME}}, {{CURRENTDAY2}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}, {{CURRENTTIME}} (UTC), The English Wikipedia has {{NUMBEROF|USERS|en|N}} registered users, {{NUMBEROF|ACTIVEUSERS|en|N}} active editors, and {{NUMBEROF|ADMINS|en|N}} administrators. Together we have made {{NUMBEROF|EDITS|en|N}} edits, created {{NUMBEROF|PAGES|en|N}} pages of all kinds and created {{NUMBEROF|ARTICLES|en|N}} articles.</font></div>

...to generate this:

As of Friday, 17 May 2024, 14:59 (UTC), The English Wikipedia has 47,413,274 registered users, 121,919 active editors, and 859 administrators. Together we have made 1,219,554,725 edits, created 60,680,179 pages of all kinds and created 6,824,595 articles.

Is there some way I could add something like "number of visits" or "number of page views" to the above? --Guy Macon (talk) 07:00, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

No. Although there is a {{NUMBEROFVIEWS}} "Magic word", it doesn't work on the English Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 98#NUMBEROFVIEWS Magic word. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:09, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

That's interesting. I can live without it, but my inner geek is wondering whether that functionality can be restored if we are willing to put up with a once-per-day or even once-per-month update frequency. Where would be the right place to propose something like that? --Guy Macon (talk) 09:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

The WP:VPR would be a good place. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 11:06, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Done. See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#NUMBEROFVIEWS Magic word. Thanks! This can be marked as resolved. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:30, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Main page redesign

Hello,

I remember finding a tutorial which explains how to make a manual main page design. Could someone indicate that page? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 11:19, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I haven't found a tutorial as such, but you may be looking for Wikipedia:Main Page alternatives or Wikipedia:Template messages/Main page and alternatives. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:42, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I was looking for those, I will do the rest if needed :) Regards.--Tomcat (7) 16:55, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism

Dear Wikipedia

The page

Colm Magner

...was recently vandalized. Insulting comments were added to the page. I have since edited the article and removed the offending comments. I believe you keep the ip address of all who edit pages??

Thank you

Colm Magner

First, all edits to the page are at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Colm_Magner&action=history. Secondly, while the statements that were added were somewhat inappropriate, (the (from who) should have been noted by a template for example), the changes that you made were also problematic. "Note: ip addresses of editors of these pages are recorded by Wikipedia. Juvenile behaviour results in formal complaints to Wikipedia. Change it again and your own bio will be removed." does not belong in an article. As the subject of the article, the rules on Wikipedia are specific on the edits that you should make, see WP:AUTO#IFEXIST. Another editor has edited based on those rules.Naraht (talk) 15:21, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I have tidied up the article to comply with the Manual of Style. Please note that because you are the subject of the article you are strongly advised not to edit it directly. Please use the article's discussion page to suggest changes.--ukexpat (talk) 15:24, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Unable to Edit

Why am I finding no edit tabs in wikipedia for over 12 hours? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.41.84.119 (talk) 17:18, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

If there had been no edit tabs at all, you wouldn't have been able to leave this comment. If you find a specific page that you can't edit, feel free to report it now and we'll see how to help you. Nyttend (talk) 05:39, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

That's not quite true. There can be glitches where a user sees a "View source" tab instead of "Edit" on a page they are actually able to edit by clicking that tab. And the top of this help desk has a link saying "Click here to ask a new question about how to use or edit Wikipedia". Try to clear your entire cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:09, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

How do I mark missing text in an article, to get the attention of somebody who could actually fix it?

I was reading the article on Trotskyism, and found an unfinished sentence ("He believed that a bureaucracy developed under Stalin after Lenin's death."). I don't know much about Trotskyism, so I couldn't fix it, but I thought I'd might want to mark the text to get the attention of somebody who could fix it. What's the best way to do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultramartin (talk • contribs) 17:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

... Oh, wait. My bad, I just realized that was actually a full sentence ("He believed that a bureaucracy developed under Stalin after Lenin's death."). I read that thing the wrong way. Still, for reference, it could be good to know the answer to my question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultramartin (talk • contribs) 17:37, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

The best place would be the talk page, but if it isn't very active, here is just fine. Livewireo (talk) 17:52, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Usually, unfinished sentences are the result of some previous vandalism that nobody noticed. So I check the history, to see if I can find a version in which the sentence is complete, so I know how to edit and finish the sentence. Lova Falk talk 18:10, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Removing personal information

Hi guys i represent Tom Lister and some of the info on his page is far too personal to be published please advise on the removal process — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.41.16.147 (talk) 18:23, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I've removed some info from Tom Lister that seemed to me to be too personal, and which contributed nothing to an understanding of the article subject. Everything else looks, at first glance, to be reasonable; let me know if you had more in mind. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

(more) Wait a sec; you're not talking about Tom Lister, are you? You mean Tom Lister, Jr.? --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:51, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I've removed some excessive detail in the Tom Lister, Jr. article as well, but I left in a shorter 2-sentence description of the information I think you're complaining about; it's (now) sourced to a reliable source, and is legitimate biographical information. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:00, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Emeritus Senior Living

Hello, Emeritus Assisted Living changed there name a few years ago to Emeritus Senior Living, can you show me how to update this? I went to the edit tab but I cannot change the title.

Thanks!Jayeager19 (talk) 18:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

To change the title of a page you need to "Move" the title. You can also request a move here: Wikipedia:Requested moves. Mlpearc (powwow) 19:46, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I moved it to Emeritus Senior Living as a non-controversial move.--ukexpat (talk) 19:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Wrong information

Sir,

In this page (Dev (actor)) you wrote in Biography section "Dev was born in Mahisha" this information not correct. The correct name is "Mahisda" because I born from same village.

Regards, Prasid Ranjan Dutta Thursday, February 28, 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.205.161.140 (talk) 19:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

It seems that the area is named Mahisha Kingdom and not "Mahisda". I could be mistaken. Mlpearc (powwow) 19:40, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

This is the area referred to in the article, just south of Keshpur, and according to the Google map it is indeed named Mahisha. AJCham 01:11, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

What can I do about another editor maliciously reverting edits?

I've been an editor for many years, but have over time drifted somewhat to the sidelines. I still occasionally edit, mostly just fixing reference formatting. Recently, I edited Masanjia Labor Camp, doing just that. I was reverted by User:Johnny_Squeaky. I reverted his revert back, only to have his revert me again, accusing me of soapboxing! It's only formatting! Looking over his past edits, it seems that this is a recurrent theme for this errant editor. I'm very rusty on the procedure for dealing with this - what should I do? Anxietycello (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Step one is to ask him about it on his talk page, or the article talk page. (I see you've just done that.) I imagine he's just reading the diffs wrong, and thinks you're adding/deleting information. I'll leave a comment there too. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:14, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Game question

Purchased PC game...Paranormal Mysteries 2....Amazing Hidden Object Games....only the 1st one will load....Mountains of Madness, very disappointed, have no problem loading other games. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.101.213.114 (talk) 20:03, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25--ukexpat (talk) 20:12, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Math question

Math wonder Can you answer this two & explain math question as under:

1. In printing a news article of 35,000 words, a printer decides to use two sizes of type. Using the larger type, a printed page contains 2,100 words. Using smaller type, a page contains 2,800 words. The article is allotted 14 full pages in a magazine. How many pages must be in larger type?

2, In printing an article of 48,000 words, a printer decides to use two sizes of type. Using the larger type, a printed page contains 1,800 words. Using smaller type, a page contains 2,400 words. The article is allotted 21 full pages in a magazine. How many pages must be in smaller type? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djdpindia (talk • contribs) 20:04, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

This is the help desk for using Wikipedia. You could try asking this at WP:Reference desk/Mathematics, but be aware that they usually won't do your homework for you. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:13, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I really don't get it how can it calculate if you can help... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djdpindia (talk • contribs) 20:28, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Please ask your question as WP:Reference desk/Mathematics.--ukexpat (talk) 20:35, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Question 1 can be written as two simultaneous equations where $x$ is the number of pages of larger type and $y$ is the number of pages of smaller type. In this case, you need to solve for $x$

${\begin{cases}2100x+2800y=35000\\x+y=14\end{cases}}$

Question 2 is very similar.

--Senra (talk) 00:43, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Strange Tags and How To Remove Them

At the top of the summary for Continental Congress Continental Congress it has this showing on the public side: <noincludeannddnsjajaakkssjsjdbd>

I was trying to fix it, but am entirely unable. How would that be done?

ObadiahKatz (talk) 20:40, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

It was template vandalism at {{Continental Congress}}, now reverted.--ukexpat (talk) 20:44, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Saving a page project.

I started work on a page, but it was deleted before I could finish it. Is there any way that I can save a page that i am working on without posting it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Britishredcoat (talk • contribs) 20:56, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, create a user sandbox where you can work on it. I have created one for you at User:Britishredcoat/sandbox.--ukexpat (talk) 20:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Uploading a Photo for our Account

(help me) How to upload a photo for our account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by A. Jean Hivus de Villa (talk • contribs) 23:45, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
• If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.Template:Z40--ukexpat (talk) 01:30, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Your use of the word "our" indicates that your user account is being used by more than one person. This is not permitted by WikiPedia's rules - accounts may not be shared so please create a separate user account for each person. Roger (talk) 06:29, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

February 28

Page that needs to be removed.

To Whoever it May Concern,

There is a wikipedia page that uses my name, photo, and some background information (where I go to school, and where I grew up), that is not relevant to the article, and MUST be taken down. The page is under "Nora Kennedy", and I would like all information about be to be removed, or at least the page. None of the information is about me, and I feel my identity has been threatened because of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.116.132 (talk) 01:49, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I have removed all information which was not properly cited to other published texts. I hope that helps. --Jayron32 03:08, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Doing more research, the entire article and all of its sources was about another person. As such, it was a blatant hoax, and I have deleted the article as such. --Jayron32 03:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Anti-vandalism contributions

Is there any more directed way of contributing towards fixing general Wikipedia vandalism on miscellaneous pages than manually checking the "Recent changes" page for suspicious-looking edits? 86.148.153.245 (talk) 02:26, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Vandalism and Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Insert new reference in bibliography

I want to add a recent publication to the bibliography on Jacques Dupuis, Priest.

Jacques Dupuis Faces the Inquisition, by William Burrows, PhD 2013 Pickwick Publications, Eugene, Oregon

ISBN: 13:978-1-62032-335-9

Not working. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhwalkrun (talk • contribs) 03:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Jacques Dupuis (priest) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Another editor has fixed the article. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Review of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Solentive Technology Group

Hi,

Thank you for reviewing our article and providing feedback on how we can improve it.

Our Wikipedia page (Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Solentive Technology Group) has been reviewed and declined by Schenka on 12 February 2013.

We have gone through your notability and guidelines pages and we believe we meet the criteria. Please see our explanation below.

Your golden rule page states that “Articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject”. We have provided a number of references that have been written by sources independent to us which are highly reliable.

Below is a list of the references we have cited that meet this criteria:

• BRW Magazine - BRW is a leading national Australian magazine that has run a number of articles mentioning our company including a full page article on our company

- Khadem, N (Jun 21 - Aug 1, 2012). "Kung Fu Fighters Work Better". BRW Best Places to Work. ISSN 0727-758X: 27.

- Khadem, N (2012). "How bosses can help working women stay fit". BRW. Retrieved 02/11/2012.

- "The 50 Best Places to Work". BRW (Best Places to Work): 43. Jun 21 - Aug 1, 2012. ISSN 0727-758X.

• Published book - that features a full page on our company

- Cain, A. & Koch, D. (2009). Strap on the Parachute. Wilkinson Publishing. pp. 121–122. ISBN 9781921332708.

• SMH – a leading NSW, Australia based newspaper that ran an opinion piece with contribution from our company

- McMahon, N. (2007). "Your whole life is going to bits". Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 31 January 2013.

• The Midday Report – is a national news service produced by the ABC (Australia) that featured an independent news story about our company.

As per the information on your notability page:

1. No matter how "important" editors may personally believe an organization to be, it should not have a stand-alone article in Wikipedia unless reliable sources independent of the organization have discussed it - We believe the sources outlined above meet the criteria of independent sources that have discussed our company. These include a national magazine, a regional newspaper, a published book and a national news service.
2. A primary test of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or its manufacturer, creator, or vendor) have actually considered the company, corporation, product or service notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial, non-routine works that focus upon it – All sources listed above have written and published non-trivial, non-routine works that focus upon our company.
3. Sources used to support a claim of notability include independent, reliable publications in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, television documentaries, websites, and published reports by consumer watchdog organizations – The sources we have referenced above include a newspaper article, a book, a television news story and a leading business-focused magazine.
4. A "reliable source" is something that is generally trusted to tell the truth. A major newspaper, a factual, widely-published book, high-quality mainstream publications with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy: these are all what Wikipedia calls "reliable". Not reliable: MySpace, Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, fansites, (most) blogs, Twitter. There must be reliable sources for the content of the article to meet the Wikipedia requirement of being verifiable. – All sources we have provided meet the criteria as generally trusted to tell the truth.

We are a small business but we believe we are making a difference and have been noticed in a number of publications. As per your notability page which states - smaller organizations and their products can be notable, just as individuals can be notable. Arbitrary standards should not be used to create a bias favoring larger organizations or their products. – We believe we fall into this category.

We strongly believe that given our range of independent, reliable references we meet the criteria to warrant a stand-alone article on Wikipedia.

We understand that Wikipedia has to be mindful and apply strict criteria as to who is provided a stand-alone page – we are not trying to be difficult but truly believe that based on the criteria outlined on Wikipedia and the references we have provided we do satisfy the criteria of notability.

Thank you, Tanya Taouil (talk) 05:33, 28 February 2013 (UTC)— Tanya Taouil (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Have you discussed this with any of the users who have declined the draft article? Also, you keep referring to "we" - is your account being used by more than one person?--ukexpat (talk) 14:06, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

• I have alerted editor CorporateM (talk · contribs) to this help desk query with a message here. I have also explained my alert to Tanya Taouil (talk · contribs) with a message here --Senra (talk) 11:50, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorting Icelandic people bio in categories

How should these articles be sorted?

• Bjarni Jónsson: {{DEFAULTSORT:Jonsson, Bjarni}}
• Kjartan Ólafsson: {{DEFAULTSORT:Kjartanolafsson}}

See them in Category:Icelandic logicians. --CiaPan (talk) 06:50, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

There's a paragraph about Icelandic at WP:SUR. The DEFAULTSORT should be "Second name, First name" for both, but in the categories specific to Iceland this should be overidden as "First name Second name". I've edited both articles. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:54, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Search bar decides, does not suggest, searches?

Hi, I've been a Wikipedia search/user ( and donor ) for 7 years. Until a few minutes ago, I have never encountered the following problem:

I searched Wikipedia for information about the English Sinologist and Chinese translator, JONANTHAN CHAVES and was immediately directed to a stub article about an Argentine football player named Jonathan Chavez. Close names, no foul. But when I entered the sinologist's name with double quotes, I was again sent to the Chavez stub.

This might seem a small matter, but I'm truly tired--at sites like Amazon.com and many others--of being directed in my searches NOT where I want to go but where the sites want me to go. I'm especially fed up with double quotes around search terms becoming increasingly ignored everywhere.

Wikipedia's prompts, as one types, are helpful, but when double quotes are usesd, one should either be directed to the search term, or to a list of related terms, or to an assertion that no such aricle exists now.

Best regards, Speer46 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.97.7 (talk) 07:20, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

That happened because the page Jonathan Chaves is a redirect to Jonathan Chávez. Redirects are a commonly used feature and have been around for a long time on Wikipedia. There isn't an article on the person you were looking for, and that page currently redirects to the footballer's page since it's a common misspelling of the name. Chamal ^T•C 07:34, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

If a page title or redirect matches your search term exactly then you go right there. If you want to perform a search instead then click "containing..." in the drop-down box below the search box. For "Jonathan Chaves" it gives [8] which shows the Sinologist is mentioned in some articles but doesn't have a biography. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Self-contradictory Wikimedia error

Hello,

everytime I save User:Tomcat7/Sandbox28 a note pops-up claiming that there was an error and my edit was not saved. However, it was saved when I return back, and it was even recorded in the history. Could someone tell me if that is a temporary error or am I just doing something wrong? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 08:11, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

If it's specific to that page then I guess the page size causes a timeout error after the actual save but before the saved page is returned to you. I don't know whether it will continue. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:54, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Viewing final page

I am creating a Wiki page for class and I wanted to know that after I create a new article in my Sandbox, am I supposed to be allowed to view the complete page afterward? Or do I have to wait after it is reviewed by Wiki editors? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AsiaBriana2014 (talk • contribs) 13:44, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

User:AsiaBriana2014/sandbox lets you see your sandbox article. In future I would recommend that you use the "Show preview" button to see your draft before you save it. You can tell that it isn't yet in a state to be published. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:56, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Are you referring to the fact that you can only see the first paragraph or so? This is because your references aren't compiling - edit the page, and at the very bottom add the following:

==References==

{{Reflist}}

That should fix the problem (although as David points out, there are a lot of other issues to address). Yunshui 雲‍水 14:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Adding the References section and {{reflist}} won't actually display any more until you address the problem highlighted by the error message displayed at the end of the page, where it says that you have opening <ref> tags without the corresponding closing </ref>. The error message gives a link to the relevant help page. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:30, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Changing article name

Hi I by mistake created this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_sehlberg but the his name is Dan T. Sehlberg. How do I change the article title and make it to one article about Dan T. Sehlberg? readers are now being redirected Ovetove (talk) 14:28, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Dan sehlberg has been moved, by another editor, to Dan Sehlberg, with a redirect from the original title. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:33, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

In general on Wikipedia, middle initials tend to be used in Article names only if either it is needed to disambiguate to someone equally famous or if they are well known with those initials. For example, I believe that if Wikipedia had existed in 1986 that Vice President George Bush would have been listed under simply George Bush rather than George H. W. Bush. If he is commonly refered to in the media as Dan T. Sehlberg, it may be appropriate to move it. A redirect exists for Dan T. Sehlberg pointing to Dan Sehlberg.Naraht (talk) 14:50, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

He is commonly refered to as Dan T. Sehlberg in media etc. So that's why i would like to change it. But it seems i'm not able to change it?Ovetove (talk) 14:58, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

You are not yet Autoconfirmed. Only 2 days to go though... Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 15:36, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I think you mean 4 days, rather than 2. And 2 more edits. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:51, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I saw he had his 8 edits using popups and for some reason later mixed that up with him being here for 8 days. Thanks for the correction David ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 16:42, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

reporting inappropriate photos

How do we report inappropriate photos? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.236.108.211 (talk) 15:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

It depends if it is here or at the commons. What is wrong with it, copyright, personality rights, or illegal?--Canoe1967 (talk) 15:30, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

They're nude photos! That's what's wrong with it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.236.108.211 (talk) 18:25, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED.--ukexpat (talk) 18:40, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Unable to log onto Wikipedia

Hello,

I can't seem to log in with my username: Woon Wee Teng. It also added /sandbox to the name after I created the account. I never asked for it to do that. Plus. The password I inputted is never correct even though I already know its the correct password. Would you be able to remove all the contents and the username so I can start over again? Thank you.

Current name: User:Woon Wee Teng

Desired name: Woon Wee Teng

Would it be possible not to have the prefix "User" in it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.255.117 (talk) 15:48, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry but user names all start with user. Did you register an e-mail address when you created your account? I see that you have created a sandbox at User:Woon Wee Teng/sandbox which appears to be a draft article about yourself, but it would not appear at the moment to meet Wikipedia's notability requirements for it to be moved to the main article space.--ukexpat (talk) 16:29, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

... and you've edited that sandbox article this afternoon, so you were obviously logged on successfully. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:01, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I am reporting broken link: Area codes 781 and 339

I am reporting broken link: Area codes 781 and 339 Results of this are below:

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.153.203.32 (talk) 15:51, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

That page is readable to me (and hasn't been edited for some time), so looks like a problem at your end. Try flushing the cache. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:59, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

9/11 songs

Hi. I read your list of 9/11 songs but feel that you have missed out on one of the newer and better songs commerating 9/11 the song is called "WHY" written by myself Tom Rattigan on google 9/11 WHY TVRATTIGAN. could you please add this song to the list. Thank you Tom Rattigan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.19.204 (talk) 16:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

(Link to article in question.)--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:51, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Removal of John B. Kimble article

Hello, back in 2006/7 I posted an article about a young man who had run for US Congress and was noteworthy with some very newsworthy actions. He is a behavioral scientist and the article was improperly removed through a deletion review where it appears through reading "consensus review" on wikipedia that there were probably only a handful of individuals involved in removing the article. After reviewing the standards for general notability guidelines I believe that the article still met the guidelines as defined under the gng and should be replaced. I also believe that editors/admins who have multiple names can through a giant wrench into fairness and integrity of the wikipedia process. Many thanks.Badpuppy99 (talk) 18:00, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

It was deleted on 2/16 per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John B. Kimble (2nd nomination). You can request a WP:REFUND into a user subpage, where you can work on it further, if you really think the individual meets WP:BIO, but I think it's WP:TOOSOON.--ukexpat (talk) 18:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Its been through DRV too. Spartaz ^Humbug! 18:23, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Content about a living person in an article of a dead person

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Any experts on WP:BLPCRIME here? :) I'm not sure if I started this discussion at the correct noticeboard. If anyone can let me know (or help with the issue itself), I'd appreciate it. Thanks. --76.189.111.199 (talk) 18:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:BLPN is the correct place for any discussion about WP:BLP issues so please continue the discussion over there.--ukexpat (talk) 18:23, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

March 1

Handedness in baseball

Dear editors: I have been editing a really, really long article about Handedness to make it shorter and simpler. I have taken out about 8,000 bytes of scientific jargon and excessive detail. However, I am completely stymied by the section about baseball. Knowing little about baseball, I still should be able to figure out what the writer is getting at, but I am finding it unintelligible. Maybe by the time I got to that section my brain was getting tired. Is there someone who can take a look at the article, figure out how handedness effects baseball, and fix it up? —Anne Delong (talk) 18:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Anne, the baseball wonks folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball may be able to help. Maybe leave a message on the project talk page?--ukexpat (talk) 18:27, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Good idea, I didn't think of that. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:20, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

MidTown Columbus GA

The above search leads to your article on MidTown, Inc. At top an alert claiming the article reads as an advertisement. I am a representative of this nonprofit organization and would like to correct this issue. We didn't write the article. It looks like it came off an old website. What do I need to do?— Preceding unsigned comment added by MidTown Inc (talk • contribs)

No article exists by that name. If you consider creating the article, take WP:COI into consideration. Sincerly, Zaminamina Eh Eh Waka Waka Eh Eh 18:29, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Are you referring to MidTown (Columbus, Georgia)? In any event you user name is in breach of our user name policy (see WP:CORPNAME) so please register an account with an acceptable name.--ukexpat (talk) 18:33, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I removed the section about the organization from the article because it was a blatant violation of WP:SPAM. The article as a whole still requires a good scrubbing. Roger (talk) 06:44, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox

I have moved a copy of an article from Mainspace to a sandbox for re-modeling and information improvement. I foresee a potential problem with a certain editor. My question is ....can I exclude an editor from working on an article that is in a sandbox and is "Under Construction"? ```Buster Seven Talk 19:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:Vandalism, "Unwelcome, illegitimate edits to another person's user page may be considered vandalism. User pages are regarded as within the control of their respective users and, with certain exceptions, should not be edited without permission of the user to whom they belong. See WP:UP#OWN". So, if your sandbox is in userspace and it's within the guidelines of what you can have on a user page, then you can report their unwelcome edits to an administrator. Sophus Bie ^(talk) 19:43, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

If the person who is vandalizing your userspace isn't a confirmed user, then you could also ask an admin to semi-protect the relevant subpage at Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection. Sophus Bie ^(talk) 20:45, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Sophus. It hasn't happened yet. I just want to be ready when it does. Your reply has helped ease my mind. Thanks for your time and for your help with other questioners.```Buster Seven Talk 21:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! I'm glad I could help out. Sophus Bie ^(talk) 21:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

De-archiving a discussion

If an archived discussion is restored to the page to continue it, should it also be deleted from the archive? (The specific situation is a case at WP:Dispute resolution noticeboard, if that makes an difference.) CarrieVS (talk) 19:07, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be an official policy on this matter: I've read through Wikipedia:Archive and Wikipedia:Closing discussions, and neither of them seem to have anything written about this specific case. Sophus Bie ^(talk) 21:33, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Including a <noinclude> tag in a preload template

Hi all,

is there a "correct" way to include <noinclude> tags in a preload template? Template:LSR/syntax includes the syntax needed for {{LSR}} so it can be preloaded with Template:Latest stable software release/Programname&action=edit&preload=Template:LSR/syntax. It work's as it is now, but it looks ugly. Is there anything one can do about it, or are workarounds like the ones I used always needed? -- Patrick87 (talk) 19:25, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Sources

I'm new to creating articles in Wikipedia and I need help figuring out if my sources are reliable. Or what can I do to make sure they are? Olgacristobal (talk) 19:26, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

There's some guidelines of what constitutes a reliable source at Wikipedia:SOURCE#What_counts_as_a_reliable_source and also Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Hope these help. Sophus Bie ^(talk) 19:47, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Boilerplate prose copied from another article

Moved discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads#Boilerplate prose copied from another article --Chaswmsday (talk) 01:22, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm looking for the specific policy or guideline about making boilerplate copies of prose from one article which repeat fundamental points about that article into tangentially-related articles (not daughter pages where a summary might be appropriate). This seems very simple, but I can't find a good reference. Thanks. --Chaswmsday (talk) 20:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Does WP:COPYWITHIN help?--ukexpat (talk) 20:13, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:COPYPASTE looks like it applies. See the bottom section -- it covers copying from one Wikipedia article to another. You must preserve attribution. RudolfRed (talk) 20:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Of course another consideration, aside from the above, is whether the copied text is being used in an unacceptable WP:FORK.--ukexpat (talk) 20:28, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:COPYWITHIN seems to talk about attribution, WP:COPYPASTE says that you can/may copy from another article, but not whether that is advisable. It's sort of a WP:FORK, but it only duplicates a piece of the article, not full duplication. I'm concerned about unnecessarily creating {{Sync}} problems and the plain fact that details about a tangential topic don't belong in articles linking to that topic.

Here's an example: The last paragraph in Ohio State Route 444#Route description talks about the defining characteristics of the National Highway System (United States), the overall maintenance responsibilities of the Ohio Department of Transportation and the definition of average annual daily traffic. These facts, IMO, should be left to those articles; a reader wishing to learn more could easily navigate to those articles.

The editor in question has changed several articles in this manner. I could address with him/her individually, but I wanted to find specific guidelines first. --Chaswmsday (talk) 20:49, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I agree with your position. One approach would be to use {{Main}} or {{See also}} templates to link back to the more general stuff making navigation easier and getting rid of unnecessary bloat.--ukexpat (talk) 21:03, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but it's not even a summary-type article, so Main wouldn't really apply; there is appropriate content, just too much that's tangential, so See Also probably also wouldn't apply. When I searched though the Help pages, I was rather astonished this topic wasn't clearly addressed. --Chaswmsday (talk) 21:12, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

It's not boilerplate prose copied from another article, per se. It's a half-sentencen or single sentence explanation/definition in the form of a paraphrased quotation offered inline and quoted to its original source. In the case of the NHS definition, standard practice is to quote the Federal Highway Administration's page that explains the NHS, so we are not truly copying text from one article to another. Rather we are repeating a standard quotation and citation across multiple articles. If the reader wants more detail about the background, legal foundation and detailed designation of the subsystems of the NHS involved, the link is provided.

As for ODOT's maintenance responsibility, that must be mentioned, and not implied, in the text of the article. The infobox at the top right corner of the should already be mentioning the maintaining agency for a roadway, and all information in the infobox, like the rest of the lead, should be repeated elsewhere in the body of the article. The infobox would not serve as a good summary of an article if it mentioned unique details not supplied in the prose someplace.

As for the short definition of AADT, good writing says that we can offer a short explanation inline to avoid sending a reader to another article. This practice was upheld in several articles I took to FAC, including U.S. Route 2 in Michigan. I agree that if we delved into more technical explanations of the AADT concept that it would be tangential, but the summation and explanation of the concept offered in the articles in question is fine.

In short, I disagree with the notion that there is a problem, and I would submit that if these articles are taken higher up the assessment scale, these shorts of details being removed by Chaswmsday would need to be reinserted to satisfy expectations of good writing. Imzadi 1979 → 01:09, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

uss ward dd139

if genetics repeats we need the uss ward dd139 artcle altered for the family code name REDODOD roger earl davidson outerbridge also known as thomas jefferson davidson thus REDODOD we are the owners of Harley Davidson genetically speaking grandmother is 103 years old...

<<apparent nonsense removed>>

...went to the top of the washington monument and ford theater larray caverns with grandmother — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.14.26 (talk) 21:52, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Do you have a question about using Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia? -- John of Reading (talk) 22:08, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Heinz Tomate juice 50% les sodium

Hi I'm a client at Metro. I'm very disturbed that I'm unable to find any Heinz tomato juice with the 50% less Sodium. At a time when people are searching for products which are less salty this product is not carried by your your Metro stores in the Heinz name brand. A store such as yours with such a high magnitude of products dos not have a place in it for your this product. Unbelievable I believe that a primary concern even if it would be only for a few clients would be to supply them with wanted brand! Could you tell me of the problem or the reluctance to supply this product

Merlin Emslie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.145.241 (talk) 22:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 FrigidNinja 22:17, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Saisha

I tried to submit an article:

Saisha comes from the Indian word which means, "God." Unknown word which means, "meaningful life-truth of life." Indian word which means, "with the grace of God." Unknown word which means, ""The girls name Saisha sa(i)-sha is of Sanskrit origin, and its meaning is "meaningful life-truth of life". The name of a Hindi princess, and a name that appears in religious chants." Someone also suggested the name is an Marathi word which means, "Flower of God."

I cannot get it to work online. Please help get information on the name and origin of Saisha posted. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.12.161.158 (talk) 00:00, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

A bot not archiving my page properly

Howdy all. Does anyone know why ClueBot III isn't archiving my talk page properly? I've asked the bot operator twice (once in December 2012 and once in January 2013) but I haven't gotten a response. I know this may be a long shot asking here, but it can't hurt to ask.--Rockfang (talk) 00:14, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

If you're having problems with ClueBot III, you might want to try another bot, such as MiszaBot III. FrigidNinja 01:31, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for replying. I have previously used that bot, but it stopped archiving my page for some reason. I left a message for the operator of that bot as well, but never got a response.--Rockfang (talk) 05:02, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Cardiac dysrhythmia

Are you aware of how convoluted the process is for reporting an edited page? Anywho, I was on Cardiac dysrhythmia page and noticed an abnormal sentence. Please review it. Something about choking on something long and hard, that could be black or white. I'm guessing this has been edited and is a penis reference.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.151.118.4 (talk • contribs)

Childish vandalism reverted in this edit. If you see such vandalism again, please pitch in and fix it yourself!--ukexpat (talk) 01:27, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Page wiggles?

what is wrong with this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Greene

It "wiggles", see? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.83.191.192 (talk) 02:34, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I added a header to your question to seperate it from the one above. The page doesn't wiggle for me, it looks fine. RudolfRed (talk) 02:37, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

No wiggles for me, either. Are you sure you aren't wiggling and the page standing still? (See first sentence of Motion (physics)). Rivertorch (talk) 06:47, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

This may be the problem I ran into a couple of days ago: pages would load and then a line or two of text would go fuzzy. This was Firefox 17; it's gone away after I upgraded to Firefox 19. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:47, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Merge or combine two user accounts

Is it possible to merge or combine two user accounts? I apparently opened a new, duplicate account after forgetting that I had previously created one years ago in college. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myc3 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't think so. If you can still login to your old account, then just stop using your new one. RudolfRed (talk) 04:18, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't merge user accounts or contributions (it was possible in the past, but not anymore). What you could do is chose one account, discontinue using the other, and mention on your userpage that you have also used the other account both for attribution purposes and to avoid sockpuppet accusations. You can read more about legitimate alternative accounts here Chamal ^T•C 04:45, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Leading space in if statements

Is it possible to make the output of an #if formula include a space as the first character?

Background: I have a template (Template:Canadian election result/top) that creates a link based on several parameters (year, jurisdiction, and election type). I want to add another parameter that will change the link from [[existing formula]] to [[existing formula ballot {{{ballot}}}]]. The problem is that the #if statement ignores the space before the word "ballot", and there doesn't seem to be an html code to insert a normal space, and I wouldn't want a non-breaking space in an article title. I could resolve this by adding a comma before the word "ballot", but I'm curious about whether there is any way to force the #if statement to recognize the leading space. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 04:16, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Check out the {{Sp}} template. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Mathematical formatting and illustrations

I recently created stub articles Stadium (geometry) and Capsule (geometry) which contain a few brief mathematical formulas written in "plain" text. Can someone who knows how please apply the correct formatting. Graphical representations of the subjects would also help improve the articles but I don't have the necessary tools to produce the drawings. Unfortunately I have not been able to find freely usable illustrations to import. Roger (talk) 07:25, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Do you think these are correct? I have applied them to those pages. These are the formulas in Stadium (geometry).

$P=2(\Pi r+a)$

$A=\Pi r^{2}+2ra$

And these are the formulas used in Capsule (geometry).

$\Pi r^{2}({\frac {4}{3}}r+a)$

$2\Pi r(2r+a)$

If there is any mistake let me know. --Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 09:57, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm not a mathematician by any stretch (I just barely managed to survive high school algebra half a lifetime ago!) so I'm not sure if it really makes a difference, but in the cited source for the Capsule (geometry)'s volume formula the 4/3 is enclosed in parentheses, which iirc means the formula reads as "four thirds of the sum of r and a" as opposed to "four thirds of r is added to a". Roger (talk) 11:27, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I believe that the formulae are correct (and in agreement with the cited sources). But I wonder why you use an upper-case pi? I believe that $\pi$ is usual for this ratio, while $\Pi$ denotes "product" in the way that $\Sigma$ denotes sum. Maproom (talk) 11:53, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I think that 4/3 enclosed in brackets is the same as 4/3 not enclosed in brackets (as far as my knowledge of mathematics is concerned) in this equation. 4/3 means it is multiplied with r, so it is the same thing. And User:Maproom, yeah I agree that lower case should be used. I have corrected the pi. Cheers.--Ushau97 ^{talk contribs} 12:00, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

how to publish an articel

Hi, I'm a new wikipedia users, I've just made ​​the first article about Riri Fitri Sari, please help how to articles can be read by everyone .. thank you .. :) --Trisand23 (talk) 07:56, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! Welcome to Wikipedia! Believe it or not, the page you have created can ALREADY be read by everyone. Congratulations! However, you seem to have copied a significant portion of the page from the website that is shown in the header that hangs above your article. Where possible, kindly rephrase the sentences. Thank you! ★ Oliverlyc ★ ✈✈✈ Pop me a message! 08:04, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Oliverlyc, I have seen articles that I created but i found no the 'copied' is. Can I ask your help to correct my article? : ) thank you very much..--Trisand23 (talk) 08:31, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I have deleted the page; it was a word-for-word copy of her University profile, which is copyrighted by the University. Yunshui 雲‍水 08:35, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

That's exactly what turns me off here at Wikipedia: A new editor comes here with good intentions and politely asks for help, and before she even gets a word in, her work is deleted. And yes, she put quite some work in beyond the original: The article was completely wikified. Such an article could serve as a basis for improvement. Of course I know WP:CSD, and it may meet several of them. But why bite the newbie with such rabid haste? This is the Help desk, after all! — Sebastian 08:50, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Because the prohibition against copyright violations is not simply an "internal" rule dreamt up one day by a cabal of admins with nothing better to do. It is in fact one of a handful of rules that if violated can have serious legal consequences. Such violations break the law (of the United States in this case as the Wikimedia Foundation's legal address is in the state of Florida AFAIK) and cannot be allowed under any circumstances whatsoever. Roger (talk) 09:02, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

↑ What Roger said. I might add that the page was not "completely wikified"; when I said it was a word-for-word copy, I was being completely literal. Both the original and the version that Tristand23 recreated a few minutes after deletion were identical in text to the source, which is clearly and unambiguously labelled as being copyrighted by the Information System Development & Services department of the University Of Indonesia. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:12, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

This page is very helpful: Wikipedia:Your first article. --Guy Macon (talk) 08:37, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Trisand23, I have started User:Trisand23/Riri Fitri Sari. It includes references to sources about Professor Riri Fitri Sari. They are written in my own words, not copied from the sources. I hope this helps you. Peter in Australia, Wikipedia username --Shirt58 (talk) 09:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

How to find templates?

Resolved

Recently, I noticed a certain inline template (like {{convert}}) in an article, and I just realized the need for it in another article. Since I didn't remember where I saw it, I tried to find it. But neither WP:Template nor WP:List of templates were of any help; they both just redirect to WP:Template messages, which only covers householding messages such as {{disambiguation needed}} and {{misleading}}. Is there really no WP page that lists non-message templates (templates intended for the article text itself), such as {{convert}}, {{lang-it}} and {{main}}? As I am writing this, I am remembering the article, and found the template in question: {{Formatprice}}, so I'm making this a general question. — Sebastian 08:06, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Browsing around Category:Wikipedia templates would hopefully help. Roger (talk) 08:41, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Doh, I could have thought of that! — Sebastian 08:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

My other account

I created account "Okklahoma", but now created "Oklahomma" to avoid misunderstandings regarding the Ku Klux Klan. Can anybody delete that account? Thank you. Oklahomma (talk) 12:01, 1 March 2013 (UTC)