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This page holds approved nominations that are waiting to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. Following DYK approval, nominations are processed and moved into a Prep area, and from there, prep sets are promoted to a queue, and then to the main page.

To create a new nomination or to see those that are yet to be approved, see Template talk:Did you know. For the discussion page see WT:DYK. Click on the link to go directly to the Special occasion holding area.

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Count of DYK Hooks
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August 25 1 1
August 28 1 1
August 30 1 1
September 5 1
September 6 1 1
September 8 1 1
September 9 2
September 11 2 1
September 12 3 1
September 13 1
September 15 2 1
September 16 2
September 18 1
September 19 1 1
September 20 3
September 21 1 1
September 22 1
September 23 6 3
September 24 3 2
September 25 2 1
September 26 2
September 27 3 1
September 28 2
September 29 1 1
September 30 4 2
October 1 2 2
October 2 3 1
October 3 2
October 4 6 1
October 5 4
October 6 3 1
October 7 5 2
October 8 3 1
October 9 9 4
October 10 4 1
October 11 5 1
October 12 5 4
October 13 11 4
October 14 4 4
October 15 8 2
October 16 8 4
October 17 8 6
October 18 10 4
October 19 12 9
October 20 7 3
October 21 6 5
October 22 18 9
October 23 9 4
October 24 6 3
October 25 11 6
October 26 8 1
October 27 8 5
October 28 11 4
October 29 8 3
October 30 10 4
October 31 11 4
November 1 10 4
November 2 5
November 3 13
November 4 3
November 5
Total 304 126
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  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
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    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted original hook to Prep 3", preview, and save

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  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
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Nominations

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Special occasion holding area

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Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section on the regular nominations page, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began, or it was listed as a Good Article; be sure to indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
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Note for promoters: please be sure to add an "invisible" comment after a hook when you've placed it in prep, noting that it's a special occasion hook and including the date it is supposed to run. This should keep the hook from being moved after promotion, as sometimes happens to hooks when a queue needs a slot filled or a prep set needs to be made more balanced by swapping hooks between preps.

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Approved nominations

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Articles created/expanded on August 25

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2024 Ohio Issue 1

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  • ... that the Republican-led Ohio Ballot Board was sued because its official summary for Ohio Issue 1, designed to improve redistricting, stated instead that the initiative would require gerrymandering?
  • Source: the Board's summary "describes the amendment, which is specifically intended to prevent partisan gerrymandering, as specifically requiring it."
https://apnews.com/article/ohio-gerrymandering-redistricting-bd589ead234436f1b113b35d28c71cc7#
Created by ProfGray (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

ProfGray (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

No reason not to review it now; if it gets approved, it can be placed in the special occasion section set up for election hooks to run after the November election in the US. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Starting review:

  • As noted above, this should be held until after the upcoming elections
    • That will in turn require updating wording like to be voted upon in the November 2024 election. It would be useful to mark this up with {{Update after}} reminders now, but I'll leave that for somebody else.
    • Obviously, if we run this after the election, it will need to be updated with the outcome and probably reactions.
  • New enough (created August 25, nominated the next day)
  • Long enough
  • QPQ exempt
  • Earwig calls out lots of text duplication, but it's all properly attributed quotes, so no worries there.
  • Since this is a controversial issue, I gave the sources a close look. For the most part, they appear to be WP:RS. I do see a few duplicated sources, which WP:REFILL can help fix, but that's not a DYK criterion.
  • The Official arguments section does a good job of hewing to WP:NPOV.
    • I am, however, somewhat concerned about the Support section. The large "Yes" box duplicates much of the preceding paragraph, is not balanced by a "No" box, probably violates MOS:EMBED, and is almost certainly incomplete today and at risk of going out of date at any point in the future. I'd drop it.
    • I'm also unconvinced that the Polling section is useful and probably violates WP:NPOV since it only lists one poll.
  • I pretty much agree with Andrevan about the hooks. Although they all get under the 200 character official limit, they're all excessively wordy, and not very interesting.
  • RoySmith (talk) 14:29, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review. I agree with some of your concerns, mostly about edits since my DYK submission, eg the Yes box (blown up from a more selective prose text) and the Polling. If (or: since) the DYK can't be run at this stage, I will wait to edit and update until after the election, ok? Given the timing, does the "new enough" criterion still a pass? After the vote, perhaps an better DYK hook will be apparent. Thanks for your review and for everyone's input here. ProfGray (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about the timing; as long as you get the nomination in on time, you're good. If we hold it up because of our rules, that's on us. RoySmith (talk) 17:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RoySmith, ProfGray, I'm not nearly so sanguine that this one won't be closed on October 25 or 26 when it hits two months. If it's approved and in the special occasion section for nominations waiting for the election to be over, then there isn't a problem. If it's still not approved at the end of the coming week, there probably will be. I would respectfully suggest that ProfGray do whatever is necessary to get the article and/or hooks into such shape that the nomination can be passed during the coming week; any post-election edits can be made per whatever new information is relevant. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In response to points above -- the Polling section has been removed. The "Yes" support section has been balanced by a "No" opposition section. (I didn't happen to create this section, but I added a few opposing orgs and now it does seem balanced.) I adjusted some language to be more NPOV and I welcome any other concerns about the article. I will think about the hook, since it'd be great to run the DYK. I hadn't known about the two months conern.ProfGray (talk) 15:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, the article looks better now. The only thing left is to work on the hooks. In general, short snappy hooks are better than long complicated ones. RoySmith (talk) 15:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It'd be great to get help with the hook. Personally, I find it interesting (fascinating, ironic, clever) that both the proponents and opponents claim to be against gerrymandering and both blame the other side for gerrymandering. The zany redistricting context is also interesting to me. But if these are not interesting, what would folks recommend for the hook? ProfGray (talk) 16:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would question whether a broad audience would know what gerrymandering was. Assuming it checks out, I suggest something less specific, like "that in the lead-up to the 2024 election, the summary of 2024 Ohio Issue 1 was a flashpoint for legal action".--Launchballer 12:26, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's an interesting point. My first thought was, "No, that's dumb. Of course everybody knows what gerrymandering is". But then as I read a bit of Gerrymandering I realized it's only an issue in places which use an election system similar to what we have in the US. If you are electing people based on total vote count across the entire electorate, it's not a thing. I don't honestly know enough about election systems around the world to know how many places it is a thing. RoySmith (talk) 14:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, my concern was that knowing the word took knowing a fair bit about politics. (I have limited interest in the subject and only know the term because I was reading about Tesco, whose founder's daughter was behind the homes for votes scandal.)--Launchballer 15:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I should ping @ProfGray:.--Launchballer 11:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I added your suggested hook as ALT3. Btw, IMO gerrymandering would be fine for the hook and a link to the gerrymandering article goes to a clear definition. ProfGray (talk) 00:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith: Could I ask that you assess my ALT3?--Launchballer 12:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • From a strictly copyediting point of view, how about shortening it to:
ALT3a: ... the ballot summary for 2024 Ohio Issue 1 was a flashpoint for legal action? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talk • contribs)
That's fine by me.--Launchballer 19:42, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RoySmith, this nomination is getting seriously past its sell-by date. If you aren't willing to formally approve this nomination (ALT3a is just a shortening of an existing hook, and doesn't need a new reviewer), then it should probably be marked for closure. Thanks for deciding one way or the other with the appropriate icon at your earliest opportunity. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:59, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your considerable work on this, RoySmith and LaunchBaller ProfGray (talk) 14:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 28

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El Eternauta: tercera parte

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  • Source: Daniel Riera (April 27, 2022). "El Eternauta: la inmortal historieta de Héctor Oesterheld, el guionista desaparecido" [The Eternaut: the immortal comic of Héctor Oesterheld, the disappeared writer] (in Spanish). Big Bang News. Retrieved August 29, 2024.
Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 125 past nominations.

Cambalachero (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - See below.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new and long enough. No problems with Earwig. A few small issues, however. Some of the material in the article lack citations. For example, the lead contains two statements that are missing citations to confirm (they're not confirmed anywhere in the article body). The entire "Plot" section is unsourced. The proposed hook itself is interesting, but needs to be rewritten. It states that Héctor Germán Oesterheld himself was a character in his own comic, who was retained after he died. In fact, the cited source states that the character of Germán was "Oesterheld's character" ("el personaje de Oesterheld"), but does not explicitly state that it is him. (Native Spanish speaker here, by the way.) The source makes clear that the character is certainly based on him; the hook needs to be reworded accordingly. Another detail that needs to be ironed out is that the hook unequivocally states that Oesterheld is dead. However, all sources I've read state that he is presumed dead. Even if his death is certain, I'm not sure that it could've been declared official at the time this third part of the comic was published in 1981, while the Dirty War was still ongoing. Otherwise, this is a very interesting article about a subject I previously had zero knowledge of! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • I have rewritten the lead. Plot sections of articles about works of fiction do not require citations; it is accepted that the book itself is the source. That Oesterheld included himself as a character within the first two stories he wrote does not need to be referenced either, for similar reasons (he's not even the first author who uses that trick, see here). The hook, however, focuses on the real-life stuff about the character. As for his death, it is correct that his death had never been officially confirmed by the military, but his kidnapping was denounced by the family and other organizations shortly after April 1977, and informed by Cadena Informativa on September 1977. It's all in reference 1. A bit off-topic for this article (better suited for HGO's biography, or the second part), but clearly not a situation that Ediciones Record didn't know. They may be in the dark about the details, but not about their star writer being missing and reported kidnapped by the military. Cambalachero (talk) 01:31, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Just a moment, please. Looking over the changes now... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for everybody's patience. The lead has been improved. No problems with the plot! The ALT still needs to be tweaked. Again, he was, in all likelihood, dead by the time the comic was published. However, he seems never to have been officially declared dead, only presumed dead. It seems like splitting hairs, but it's the kind of thing other editors may potentially bring up once the hook goes live. So best to address it now by modifying the ALT with the qualifier "probably". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • How about ALT1: ... that El Eternauta: tercera parte kept its creator Héctor Germán Oesterheld as a viewpoint character, even though he was disappeared? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cambalachero (talk • contribs) 17:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • CurryTime7-24, does ALT1 satisfy your concerns? Is this ready for you to approve it, or is there more to be done? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Let me look this over right now. Just a moment... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC) ALT1 looks good! Thank you everyone for your patience with me. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:36, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • I'm not entirely sure this hook works. Per the article, Héctor Germán Oesterheld isn't the viewpoint character, his self-insert "Germán" is, so the hook isn't quite accurate to the text. On top of that, the comic is science fiction, not an autobiography or memoir, so it doesn't seem to be that unusual that the character would be kept despite the author being vanished. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • In-story, it's abundantly clear that "German" is indeed meant to be Oesterheld himself, not just a character with traits of Oesterheld. See here. Characters may still be used in ongoing series after the creator dies, right, but not author-as-character ones. Compare for example with Stan Lee and Jack Kirby in Marvel Comics, they used to add themselves to the stories quite often (for example, when they tried to get to the private reception of the Fantastic Four wedding, and Nick Fury took them to the street). They rarely did so when other authors took the helm of the comics, and almost never (if at all) after their deaths. Similarily, the cameos of Stan Lee were a tradition of all Marvel films regardless of studios, but that tradition stopped in its tracks when Stan Lee died, even if the current technology would allow to make fake cameos if so desired. Not even Deadpool crossed that line. And that, considering that they died of old age, and not in the controversial (to say the least) circumstances in which Oesteheld died. Cambalachero (talk) 14:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on August 30

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İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 56 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 15:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough. Although WP:DYKLEN does not address this, I am not happy when an article just barely meets the length requirements thanks to repeating a significant portion of its content in the lead pararaph or lead section. Without said repetition, this article contains about 1350 characters of prose. I also do not think that a minister opening a chess championship is particularly interesting. Surtsicna (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Surtsicna: Well, the thing is, it is what a lede is supposed to do, to summarize the basics, and while I try to keep the lede as necessarily short as possible, in this case the lede just happened to summarize the entire body in only a third of its size. And to be honest, I just found it unusual for a health minister to open a national chess championship during their tenure, which is why it felt interesting to have as a hook. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to note since this page is now at 1394 B (below the 1500 B minimum) due to MOS:LEADSTUB cleanup that I would like to expand the article on Friday or Saturday (when I have more time) or earlier in case it's possible to find a sufficiently interesting hook from there. ミラP@Miraclepine 03:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've expanded this article to 2322 B and this is the most hooky I can get, but it's borderline and 199 characters, so if ALT0 to 2 aren't enough, I can withdraw this nom.
Hope this help. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:12, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article looks much more substantial now. There is some fluff, however. I do not think it is encyclopedically vital to note that she congratulated someone on election, or that she attended a memorial service. The bit about her donating money might be seen as promotional. And what was she congratulated for at the chess championship? ALT1 is an improvement, but I wonder if something could be done with the counterfeit prescription scandal. That sounds intriguing. Surtsicna (talk) 18:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: If it helps, at the least they were covered by national mainstream media outlets. And the congratulation was at a different meeting, not the chess championship. I've expanded more on the counterfeit prescription scandal, but I gotta sleep now before I can cover the rest. ミラP@Miraclepine 04:11, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: @Miraclepine: has done some more work on this. Would you able to check back into this?--Launchballer 15:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: I've added more on the meeting with the Turkish health minister and the scandal. Not sure on this, but here's ALT3:
ALT3: ... that Northern Cypriot Minister of Health İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra wanted the country to have its first qualified pharmaceutical facility, saying "if we do not produce, we will be destroyed"? Source: “Kendi ülkemizde, nitelikli, işe yarayan ilaç fabrikası görmek istiyorum. Çağrımı yineliyorum” vurgusunu yapan ... Altuğra, “Üretmezsek yok oluruz; kendi ülkemizde ilaç fabrikamızı kurmak zorundayız” dedi./Emphasizing that “I want to see a qualified, working pharmaceutical factory in our own country. I reiterate my call,” Altuğra ... said, “If we do not produce, we will be destroyed; we have to establish our own pharmaceutical factory in our own country.”
Hope this helps. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did the opposition have anything to say about her in the context of the scandal? Political biographies can easily veer off into bias. And I think I have a good hook:
ALT4: ... that Northern Cypriot Minister of Health İzlem Gürçağ Altuğra warned that her country would be destroyed unless it started producing drugs?
What do you think? Surtsicna (talk) 19:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: I couldn't find any such sources even in Turkish, so what should I remove, maybe the "witnessed the scandal's investigation with sadness" part? Oh, and the ALT4 looks good. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:24, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna: Just needed to remind you because this nom will time out on November 4 (two months after this DYK was submitted). ミラP@Miraclepine 03:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Miraclepine. Yes, I would lose the sadness part. I hope someone else can review ALT4 by 4 November if we are in agreement that it is the best one. If nobody does by 4 November, I choose ALT3 (sligthly amended). Surtsicna (talk) 15:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: Done and that should be it for now. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:58, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe ALT4 checks out in the sentence beginning "In October 2023", so ticking this off.--Launchballer 13:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 6

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1917 Łódź City Council election

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Campaign poster for the 1917 Łódź City Council election
Campaign poster for the 1917 Łódź City Council election
  • ... that whilst socialists got 31% of the votes in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured), they only won five seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?
  • Source: Telma Tadeusz. Pierwsze wybory do Rady Miejskiej m. Łodzi, in Rocznik Łódzki, Vol. 11 (14). Państwowe Wydawnictwu Naukowe, 1966. pp. 134, 138-146, Antoni Goerne. Wybory do Rady Miejskiej w Lodzi w styczniu 1917, in Informator m Lodzi z kalendarzem na rok 1919. pp. 76-83
Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 396 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 11:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I'm not taking on the review, but just leaving a comment, as I'm puzzled. Without context, this may not be hook-notable I believe. The question left unaddressed is five seats out of how many. If it is five seats out of 15, this would seen rather non-notable. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 03:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I went back and forth on the wording of the sentence, but with the 200 characters cap it is difficult to get all nuances and factoids included. For me "only five" implies that it is less than proportional, but a rewording could be to replace "five seats" with "8%". --Soman (talk) 10:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed: No - The licensing is incorrect, at issue is not the photograph copyright but the poster itself ({{PD-1923}} in the United States, not sure about Poland)—then you can use {{PD-scan}}
  • Used in article: Yes
  • Clear at 100px: No - all you can see is a number 5
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article looks mostly fine, but I'm not sure about the hook. Non-proportional electoral systems are typical outside of continental Europe, where proportional representation based systems are more common. First past the post can cause equal amount of distortion. (t · c) buidhe 04:06, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But the hook states that the reasons for the disproportionality is the curiae system, which is arguably something different from FPTP dynamics. The curia system would be very weird present-day, to explicitly discriminate in favour of the wealthiest. There are some alternate takes on the on the hook, like ALT1 "... that while 55% of the voters in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) were working class, they only got 10 out of 60 seats due to a curiae system implemented by the German authorities?" or ALT2 ... that the curiae-based electoral system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionally favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties? Now ALT2 would require a bit of a rewrite in article and need another image though. --Soman (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding the clarity of image, I selected precisely because it had symbolism that was readable even at 100px. I don't think we'd expect people to read the fine print, but in 100px the number 5 is clearly visible (5 times) and the largest text is readable ('vote for our list'). The designer of the poster wanted that a reader catch the number 5 clearly even from a distance. --Soman (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My point is that many electoral systems intentionally or not result in disproportionate seats for certain parties at the expense of others, thus it cannot really be a surprising fact that this particular electoral system has that result. (t · c) buidhe 19:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, this is not comparable to the issues from FPTP or STV electoral systems. Here was a case where an electoral system was explicitly designed to give a absolute majority to the wealthiest sections of society, with the explicit and publicly stated goal of ensuring a stable conservative majority. Now at the time the principle 1 citizen 1 vote was not universal by any means, but for present-day readers this is certainly something that would raise eyebrows. --Soman (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know a bit about how pre-German Revolution electoral systems worked in Germany (and as you've written here, applied to occupied territories), but the average reader doesn't. So I think if you are going to take that angle, it needs to be more clear in the hook. (t · c) buidhe 22:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soman: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about ALT3 - "... that the class-based curiae system used by German occupation authorities in the 1917 Łódź City Council election (poster pictured) disproportionately favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties?" --Soman (talk) 01:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)?[reply]
@Buidhe: Please address the above.--Launchballer 11:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soman: For me, the hook is dependent on knowing what a curiae system is and I don't, so I'd question whether a broad audience would.--Launchballer 21:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4 - "... that the electoral system imposed by the German occupation authorities for the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured) disproportionately favoured the non-socialist Jewish parties?" --Soman (talk) 09:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me, with the caveat that I can't read a word of the source. If you're happy with the very slightly trimmed ALT4a: "... that the electoral system imposed by the German occupation authorities for the 1917 Łódź City Council election (campaign poster pictured) disproportionately favoured some Jewish parties?" I'll go ahead and approve this.--Launchballer 10:28, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4a ok with me. --Soman (talk) 10:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's roll.--Launchballer 10:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 8

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Jewish dairy restaurant

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Created by Andrevan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Andre🚐 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a full review, but the interesting thing about the article is the fact that Jewish dairy restaurants even exist in the first place, considering kosher laws. I'd suggest proposing hooks that focus specifically on that aspect, as least as possible options for the promoter, as the mere concept of the Jewish dairy restaurant is the elephant in the room here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Could you elaborate what you mean? Dairy restaurants are kosher. That is the entire point of them. The laws say not to mix milk and meat, that's why there isn't any meat at a dairyrestaurant. Andre🚐 12:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a non-Jew myself, I just thought that the actual concept was interesting by itself. It might not be as obvious to observant Jews of course since they may take it for granted, but especially to people from places where Jews are not very visible it might be unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:02, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes, I see what you mean. Yeah maybe there could be an ALT1 like:
A bit long perhaps? Andre🚐 14:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:DYKTRIM it could be shortened to something like "... that Jewish dairy restaurants specialize in food that accommodate the kosher Jewish dietary rules on milk and meat?" Would that be okay with you? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure sounds good. Andre🚐 00:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do think the original hook is interesting, I only mentioned the suggestion above so that it could be offered as an option. It's probably best for a reviewer to make the final decision. I've slightly modified the original hook to give Trotsky's full name since not all readers may know who he is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:39, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might be safer to leave it to another editor to do the actual review of the article content, although you can probably do some of the more technical aspects like article creation, hook interest, etc. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I thought that was part of the review! Andre🚐 01:05, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On the one hand, I disagree with Narutolovehinata5, as I think they could have done the review themselves just as much as I could. But, on the other hand, I admire someone who takes the neutrality principle to such an extreme, and you have to respect that even if you personally disagree with it. With that said, such a position can also have unintended consequences, such as leading to the timing out of this nom due to such high-minded principles. Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would it help if I review some DYKs that are in the backlog? Andre🚐 01:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're very much encouraged to do so, especially since any review can be used in the future once you are required to provide QPQs. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did a few! Andre🚐 23:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • To clarify Viriditas's concern, the reason I asked for a new review is more out of check-and-balance reasons. Personally I have a preference ALT1 (the straightforward hook), but others may disagree and think that the Trotsky angle is more interesting (and personally I do also find it interesting). Normally what I could have done is to approve both hooks and leave it to the promoter, but given how torn I am over the options I thought bringing in a third-party editor to give their own opinion would also help reach a proper consensus. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You’re not wrong; both hooks are good. Although I have only managed to vet ALT0. If you can vet ALT1, do the review, pass both, and let the approver decide on which hook to use. Viriditas (talk) 03:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you both. I think we'd probably be able to verify ALT1 using the Ben Katchor book, The Dairy Restaurant, which I have in physical form. It's a surrealist trip, complete with lots of old menus and ads for dairy restaurants. I'll check and see if there's a succinct definition that we can use and what page that is on. Andre🚐 23:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Or actually, the NYT review of the book should do it: The subjects of Mr. Katchor’s new book, “The Dairy Restaurant” (Schocken, $29.95), were community cornerstones: cheap, filling refuges that made it possible for Jewish immigrants in New York to eat out according to kosher laws, by keeping milk and meat strictly separated, with fish, eggs and vegetables as neutral go-betweens. Good enough? If not, I'll check the book, though I can't do it tonight. Andre🚐 23:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really torn about what to write here. As a resident of the Bronx, I find ALT0 to be a wonderful hook. I had no idea Trotsky ever lived in the Bronx. The idea that I've literally walked down the block where he ate his meals just blows my mind. BTW, I found an ad for the Triangle Dairy Restaurant in the Daily Worker, https://www.marxists.org/history/usa/pubs/dailyworker/1929/1929-ny/v05-n344-NY-feb-08-1929-DW-LOC.pdf, page 3, rightmost column. And a photograph. But, WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE says avoid hooks that are primarily about an incident the subject is only tangentially related to which would seem to rule out the Trotsky hook. Still, it's such a great hook, I'd say WP:IAR and use it. RoySmith (talk) 23:19, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, very cool finds. "Comrades, Patronize The Triangle Dairy Restaurant." Love it. Andre🚐 23:27, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added a fact to the article, from a cited NYT review of the book, which could make a good hook: ... that growth of Jewish dairy restaurants was aided by better commercial refrigeration and periodic "meat strikes" against the high cost of kosher butchers? ProfGray (talk) 04:52, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is an interesting tidbit, but it feels like it would be hard to properly explain within the space of a hook, the meat strikes I mean. The refrigeration thing is also interesting. I mean I guess it's a hook that pulls you in and says, what the heck do you mean, meat strikes? But then we don't really explain what they actually did or were in the article ... yet..., but it may be difficult to do so. I'll have to see what Katchor says about it in the full text. Andre🚐 05:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Andrevan, what about going after the quirky angle that emphasizes the unique pluralism of America and the distinct melting pot culture of New York? Something along the lines of "...that one of the few, last remaining Jewish dairy restaurants in New York's East Village is run by an Egyptian Muslim and Polish Catholic couple?" Of course, that would require updating the article.[3][4] Viriditas (talk) 20:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is a great fact, though it's more about B&H Dairy. While I did include it in that article, I omitted it from this one, though not intentionally. We could shove it into this article but I'm not sure that I like it better than the Trotsky hook or the Narutolovehinata5 special edition straightforward hook. Also, ProfGray figured out about the meat strikes, they were the 1902 kosher meat boycott. That could make that fact usable. Andre🚐 23:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I found a place to sneak it into the article and it went in easier than I thought, so you have a Viriditas special edition pluralistic ALT4.[1] Andre🚐 23:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Based on my reading of the above, I think this article is ready for a full review. Z1720 (talk) 22:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the article is ready for review. ProfGray made some improvements and I also added the info Viriditas suggested for ALT4. Please let me know if we should spell out ALT4 or if it's clear enough from the earlier conversation. Andre🚐 23:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Andrevan: There is a citation needed tag on this article.--Launchballer 16:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll remove that statement for now (cc @ProfGray) Andre🚐 16:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. Long enough, new enough. QPQ unnecessary and Earwig has no valid complaints. The original and the ethnicity hook fail WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and the meat strikes hook would require a link to 1902 kosher meat boycott, which I argue would distract the reader. I think this leaves only Naruto's straightforward hook, except I'm not seeing where exactly in the source it is - I'm sure I'm just missing it but @Andrevan: could I ask for a sentence in the source confirming this?--Launchballer 15:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As an exact spot in a source for ALT4 (if have the right one), how about this quote from the NYT Moskin piece? The dairy restaurants "...were community cornerstones: cheap, filling refuges that made it possible for Jewish immigrants in New York to eat out according to kosher laws, by keeping milk and meat strictly separated, with fish, eggs and vegetables as neutral go-betweens." If so, then an edit or sentence in the first paragraph could work. ProfGray (talk) 17:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes,that was the quote we had for ALT1, Naruto's, which I can get a page num from Katchor if we don't like the NYT piece. Andre🚐 19:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was asking for ALT1, which I can see now checks out.--Launchballer 01:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Jewish dairy restaurant: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia". en.wikipedia.org. Retrieved 2024-10-13.

Articles created/expanded on September 11

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Shin Iza Gawna

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Statue of Shin Iza Gawna.
Statue of Shin Iza Gawna.
Created by Hteiktinhein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Hteiktinhein (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

agreed! Thanks for new hook but full review needed. Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:36, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, please... I have an image of the monk's statue, and I’m trying to find it in my iCloud. I will upload it to Wiki Commons soon. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 21:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Photo added. It's good time to full review. Hteiktinhein (talk) 16:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: New enough and long enough. AGF on hook fact locked behind Snippet View and written in Burmese; also AGF on paraphrasing. Image should not be used, unless we can ascertain that the statue is public domain. Per commons:COM:FOP Myanmar, there is no FOP in Myanmar; consequently, although the image may have been freely licensed in good faith, the statue may preclude it from being true.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the PD Myanmar license since the stone statue was installed in 1966, which is over 50 years ago. This allows us to use the picture under the PD Myanmar license. Thanks. Hteiktinhein (talk) 06:33, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done, however, i'm ok promote without image. Thanks Hteiktinhein (talk) 19:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 12

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Benjamin Franklin Shumard

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Oak species named after Benjamin F. Shumard
Oak species named after Benjamin F. Shumard
  • Source: in his honor: Buckley, Samuel Botsford (1860). "Description of Several New Species of Plants". Proc. Acad. Nat. Sci. Philadelphia. 12 (published 1861): 443–445 – via JSTOR. got him fired, see page 7, line 4 of this source: Roessler, A. R. "Reply to the charges made by SB Buckley, State Geologist of Texas, in his official report of 1874, against Dr. BF Shumard and AR Roessler." (1875). https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/bc3d474b-4e53-4980-8240-9b48ba20b33d/content see also: p.144 (p2 of pdf): Young, Keith (1994-01-01). "The Shumards in Texas". Earth Sciences History. 13 (2): 143–153.
Created by ProfGray (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

ProfGray (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: Hello, professor! I like what you are trying to do, but we want to avoid writing a cell phone novel. Let's also try to drill down and figure out what is interesting. First thing that caught my eye was that this man was a practicing geologist and a practicing physician! That's unusual and interesting, don't you think? He was a State Geologist for Texas and a professor of obstetrics at the University of Missouri! That kind of thing would be unheard of today. Further, you mention he was involved in several geological controversies and his research was expanded upon by others. I feel that you are not giving us the most interesting parts of the article. :-) Viriditas (talk) 22:59, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This shortens it. Try something similar to this:
  • … that an assistant to Texas chief geologist Benjamin Franklin Shumard named an oak species after him, but then sabotaged his reinstatement by Governor Sam Houston?
It's great to get a specific editing suggestion, with which I've replaced the proposed hook.ProfGray (talk) 13:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 is shortened considerably now. Needs new review. Viriditas (talk) 18:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Not keen on the tree picture, as we want to focus attention on Shumard. Article is new enough, long enough, and sourced adequately (I have added a citation needed tag). Earwig shows 24%, but that is a very long title and nothing else. Abbreviated ALT0 only approved.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your time and effort with the review. I supplied the needed reference and removed the tag, thanks. I don't need to do anything about the other ALT hooks, right? ProfGray (talk) 17:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 15

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Czarodziejski okręt

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Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 521 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:08, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Full review needed.--Launchballer 18:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It surprises me that this nomination has waited this long, Piotrus, because the topic is interesting and the article is very easy to read. It seems, however, that the article fails the first of the DYK criteria: newness. It was created on 15 September and nominated on 24 September. I would be happy to overlook this if it did not mean almost certainly getting dragged at WT:DYK. If it is any consolation, there are small things that would need to be worked on before the article is eligible anyway, so now you are spared extra work. Surtsicna (talk) 17:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:DYKNEW, seven days can be extended for a day or two upon request.--Launchballer 17:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is very helpful. I much prefer to be strict with article size and comprehensiveness than with newness, and this article is certainly of a decent size. I think the translation "The Magic Ship" needs to be clearly marked as an unofficial/unpublished literal translation and should probably be avoided in this hook. Quotation marks should be used for quotes instead of italics per MOS:ITALICS. The women mentioned in the Analysis section should probably be described with their profession (e.g. literary critics). Kuliczkowska's comment about a "spoiled millionaire" and the criticism of the portrayal of the husband do not seem to be contradictory, so "though" is probably the wrong word to use in that sentence. Of these, only the translation is a substantial issue. Surtsicna (talk) 19:01, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: Thanks, I fixed all (I hope - please take a look), and we can replace the English unofficial translation in the ALT0 with the Polish title (ALT0a below). Regarding "though", I clarified the passage a bit, the point is Kuliczkowska was praising the criticism of the "filthy rich" character and criticizing the lack of such criticism of another character (she was writing this in the time of communist Poland, adhering to the Marxist views, although I cannot spell that out in the article as this would be ORish, unfortunately). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:46, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All done then! The sourcing appears to be impeccable. Surtsicna (talk) 18:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 19

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Chauncey Archiquette

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  • Source: Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe (Thorpe said "[Archiquette] was my football idol and in our scrub games with the homemade football I always tried to emulate him") / Carlisle Vs. Army ("[Thorpe] was particularly taken with the team's star runner, an Indian boy named Chauncey Archiquette ... One day, Thorpe told himself, I'm going to be as tough as Chauncey ... [Thorpe, after watching practice] raced back and forth over the empty field, zigging here, zagging there, trying to emulate his idol.")
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 247 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here: don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject. And for what it's worth, I made a bit of an informal survey about this on Discord, and the three editors who responded said they didn't know who Thorpe is. Note that my thoughts about the hook are independent of the survey; in fact, I made the survey because I wanted to know if American editors might find the hook interesting and to check my own thoughts. As for the nomination itself, the safest option here is probably to try a completely different angle. While ALT1 is arguably a better option, as you said, it loses some of the punch with the additional context. Thorpe is no Lionel Messi or Michael Jordan to warrant the angle, methinks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi BeanieFan11. This article created on the 18 September (and promoted to GA since) is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, neutral, and copyvio free. The article is presentable. The QPQ has been done. I'll admit, I (non-American) was not familiar with Jim Thorpe before this DYK, so I prefer ALT3. However, I don't love ALT3, because it seems like similar things have been said about a lot of American footballers. Perhaps it is worth making people click through to see who Jim Thorpe is in order to have an interesting hook? All hooks are cited and I've verified the citations. Good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 21:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 21

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Jeya Wilson

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  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sunny Choi
  • Comment: DrThneed wrote the bio but she's a tad busy, hence she's asked me whether I would like to see this through the DYK process. I'm only too happy to oblige as Jeya Wilson is such a fascinating person. If you have time, I suggest you watch her opening speech at the Oxford Union debate, which is linked from the source above. And if you want to be in for a treat, wach David Lange's speech (second-to-last speaker) – an absolute stunner of a performance. Almost every New Zealander knows one of the lines that he delivered in that speech.
Moved to mainspace by Schwede66 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 162 past nominations.

Schwede66 09:03, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • earwig doesn't show any issues; a read-through doesn't show anything obvious in terms of close paraphrasing; article is in a good state; article was only 2 days old when nomindated; hook cited to The Spinoff, which is generally considered reliable; hook is short-ish and interesting; no images; QPQ is done; overall looks good to me! David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 23:40, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 23

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Kichuś majstra Lepigliny

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Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 526 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:24, 1 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Piotrus: The hook seems to be behind a paywall. Can you give a short quotation from the citation that references the hook for verification?--v/r - TP 14:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @TParis: For me this is free to download without even Wikipedia Library (just requires a free account, which I encourage you to register). Anyway, the text is on p. 290 and states in Polish: "Ostatnią część rozdziału Staniów poświęca polskim inspiracjom twórczością włoskich autorów i nawiązaniom do niej (na przykład Kichuś majstra Lepigliny Janiny Porazińskiej, zwany „polskim Pinokiem”)". FYI the referred work is „A jednak Pinokio! O literaturze włoskiej dla dzieci w Polsce w latach 1945–2012”, a chapter in a 2014 book Przekłady w systemie małych literatur. O włosko­polskich i polsko­włoskich tłumaczeniach dla dzieci i młodzieży (the cited article is a review of it). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Much of the citations are Polish books that I do not have access to nor read the language. So I am basing the copyright check on my opinion of the reputation of the nominator. The hook is interesting enough, but I think the bit about intentionally using archaic language is even more interesting if @Piotrus: wanted to incorporate that into a hook too. But passing since the existing hook is good enough. v/r - TP 23:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bear season 2

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Created by Mjks28 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Mjks28 (talk) 02:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Mjks28 and Lbal: Earwig shows that The Bear season 2 §§ ep12​ and ep18 are largely identical to the first paragraphs of Honeydew Transcript and The Bear Transcript, respectively. For the former, there's an archive showing that it existed on July 16, over a month before the Wikipedia article was published. This potential copyright violation should have been found in the review, and needs to be addressed before the hook can be promoted to prep. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:35, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ngiam Tong Dow

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  • Source: "In 1968, we went to the World Bank meeting. The South Africans were there and we invited the South African Finance Minister to our hotel room."

"Dr Goh wanted to buy gold at a fixed price, rather than a floating market price. So we agreed to buy 100 tons, a substantial amount, at $40 US dollars." "Then he took out his US one dollar note. And sliced it into halves! Just like that. He gave half to me and said, "You keep this. I will keep the other half and my man will meet you in Switzerland."" "I handed the sliced US dollar note over. He took out the other half. It matched! The serial numbers were the same."

Ngiam, Tong Dow. A Mandarin and the Making of Public Policy: Reflections by Ngiam Tong Dow. ISBN: 978-9971-69-350-3
    • Reviewed:
Created by BenTanXiaoMing (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 09:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: v/r - TP 15:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BenTanXiaoMing: @TParis: This hook violates WP:EGG, and the claim that it is/was the "largest" purchase is never mentioned in the article, just that it was the first. A new hook is needed. Kimikel (talk) 03:09, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kimikel: "Largest" was in there at the time of the review. It was removed in this edit by @Justanothersgwikieditor:. I've added it in with a new ref. And the hook is fine. No one expects to find an article titled "purchase of gold from South Africa". But here is an alt anyway.--v/r - TP 13:59, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 is good to go. Nobody would reasonably infer that a link saying "purchase of gold from South Africa was completed" would lead to a page about a Singaporean civil servant, so ALT0 is not fine, per WP:EGG. Kimikel (talk) 23:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're just going to skim over the fact that you accused me of lazily not verifying the original hook without checking the article's history?--v/r - TP 01:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 24

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Sankar Montoute

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  • ... that Sankar Montoute was the first NFL player from Trinidad and Tobago?
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 251 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


* The article is long enough and well sourced. The hook is verifiable against the reference provided. Most of the references provided in this article are paywalled. But considering that this article is a Good articles/Sports and recreation, these can be accepted in good faith. The article has been recently substantially expanded. The article has recently undergone a successful GA Review and awarded Good Article status. The hook is interesting and article seems good enough for DYK. Sarvagyana guru (talk) 05:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How You Get the Girl

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Taylor Swift performing "How You Get the Girl" on the 1989 World Tour in 2015.
Taylor Swift performing "How You Get the Girl" on the 1989 World Tour in 2015.
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Converted from a redirect by Brachy0008 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

brachy08 (chat here lol) 09:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article is well balanced, sourced and written from a neutral point of view. It is new enough, as it has been moved from draftspace within the last 7 days and the earwig tool found no signs of copyright violation or plagiarism. The hooks are interesting enough and the sources provided are reliable. Well done, Wolverine XI (talk to me) 10:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

personally, i feel that the original hook is suitable (because of the image) also bc i have less than 5 dyk noms, qpq doesn't really apply to me (yet) brachy08 (chat here lol) 10:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If that's the case, then you should probably remove the second hook. Wolverine XI (talk to me) 10:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

removed brachy08 (chat here lol) 11:14, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Brachy0008 and Wolverine XI:, I can't find where the sources verify that the choreography was inspired by Singin' in the Rain—while the Independent says "there is a mass “Singing in the Rain”-style choreographed dance sequence to “How to Get the Girl”", which isn't quite the same thing. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
tweaked. @AirshipJungleman29: brachy08 (chat here lol) 00:45, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think "styled from" makes sense. The best you can do at present is something like "that one reviewer said the choreography is like Singin' in the Rain". You don't have a quote from anyone who actually knows about what the inspirations were. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:54, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
tweaked again. how does it look? @AirshipJungleman29: brachy08 (chat here lol) 00:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: Have your concerns been resolved? If so, is this ready to approve? Z1720 (talk) 23:13, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...probably? I think a copyedit might be needed, as in ALT0b: ... that the choreography of How You Get the Girl during the 1989 World Tour resembled the 1952 musical Singin' in the Rain? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 25

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Dalibor Riccardi

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  • Source: San Marino RTV mentions (translated) "Passionate about sports, he played football at a competitive level"; Soccerway has 71 matches in national football league
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 252 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is slightly above the seven-day limit (it was closer to eight days after creation), but WP:DYKNEW has a built-in two day extension so that should be acceptable given that the article has no other issues. The hook is interesting and cited to both English and Italian-language sources. Assuming good faith for the Italian source, but a translation seems to verify that he played football. A full QPQ has been done. I didn't detect any close paraphrasing. My only real concern is the hook, and this is more of a minor wording issue: it reads a bit weird and could quickly become outdated since he will only be a Captain-Regent for six months. So maybe a slightly reworded hook that better fits the "unlikely to change" wording would be better? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think we can go with the second wording (the "elected in 2024" one) since it's a fact that's unlikely to change and would remain correct even in the future. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sun Jianai

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  • Source: Lin, Xiaoqing Diana (2005). Peking University: Chinese Scholarship and Intellectuals, 1898–1937. pp 15-27
Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 81 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Generalissima: are you sure it's correct to say that Sun "founded" the university? The article doesn't quite state it in that way. It seems that technically the university was established by the first edict of the Guangxu Emperor as part of the Hundred Days' Reform? If it is correct, was he the sole founder or a co-founder? Onceinawhile (talk) 11:34, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Generalissima: sorry to be difficult but are you sure that is right? It doesn't say founder or co-founder anywhere in the article. This source says: "On July 3, 1898, Emperor Guangxu approved a report to implement the Imperial University of Peking and to draft its charter. Sun Jianai, a senior Chinese official, was appointed “guanli daxuetang shiwu dachen,” or the (education) minister for the imperial university's affairs." The "guanli daxuetang shiwu dachen" is zh:Category:管理大学堂事务大臣. If we are to use co-founder we will need a source stating that. Onceinawhile (talk) 19:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Onceinawhile: I felt that "was tasked to organize" works for "co-founded", but I'm okay deferring to an slightly alternate hook. How about
Alt1:… that Sun Jianai organized China's first national university in 1898?
(again citing the Lin 2005 source) Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: ALT1 good to go! Onceinawhile (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generalissima Peking University says that Tianjin University was older; is that incorrect? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AirshipJungleman29 Tianjin was established as a law school with state approval, but it wasn't a national university initially - although it is now. If this seems problematic, I'm okay changing it to "one of China's first universities". Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 15:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Eddie Sheldrake

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  • ... that before selling KFC and pies, the 5-foot-9-inch (1.75 m) Eddie Sheldrake played basketball under coach John Wooden and broke UCLA's single-game scoring record?
  • Source: "Polly’s Pies will hop back in time this week as the a local comfort food and pie chain ... Her grandfather, Eddie Sheldrake, co-founded the chain with his brother Don with their first restaurant in Fullerton in 1968 after they decided to expand from being Kentucky Fried Chicken franchisees to opening an original restaurant" (Press-Telegram) "This Angeleno is something of an oddity in basketbalL, as it is played these days, for he is a little runt of five feet-nine" (Press-Telegram) "Eddie Sheldrake, a longtime friend of Wooden, was a sophomore in his first year on the Bruins varsity the season the coach arrived." (John Wooden : An American Treasure) "The five-foot nine-inch forward broke the Southern Division basketball scoring record for a single game when he tallied 38 points in leading his team to a 90-67 triumph over Stanford Saturday night. Sheldrake’s total also broke the UCLA school record held Jointly by Don Barksdale and Bill O’Brien, with 30 points." (Citizen-News)
Created by Bagumba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 108 past nominations.

—Bagumba (talk) 16:43, 29 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi @Bagumba: This article, created on the 29 September, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, BLP-compliant, copyvio free, neutral, and presentable. The hook is cited and the QPQ is done.
My only problem would be that this hook is a bit busy/unfocused. I'd like workshop it a bit. Might I suggest "... that before selling chicken and pies, 5-foot-9-inch (1.75 m) Eddie Sheldrake broke UCLA's single-game scoring record in basketball?". Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 12:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tenpop421: If we're simplifying the basketball portion. I think there's more cachet to mentioning the legendary coach Wooden. And I'd prefer the globally-recognized KFC over chicken. I propose:
ALT1 ... that before selling KFC and pies, the 5-foot-9-inch (1.75 m) Eddie Sheldrake played basketball under UCLA coach John Wooden?—Bagumba (talk) 17:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bagumba: I think "selling KFC" is not incorrect, but it is a bit awkward. He ran a KFC, which sold chicken, and he ran Polly's Pies, which sold pies. We wouldn't say "selling KFC and Polly's Pies". The phrase "selling KFC" implies, to me, selling a company. Subjectively, as a person who isn't so into basketball, its more interesting to hear that a person broke a record themselves than that they were coached by someone renowned. But the latter fact might be more remarkable, I just don't know enough about the sport. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 17:53, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 ... that before selling pies and KFC chicken, the 5-foot-9-inch (1.75 m) Eddie Sheldrake played basketball under UCLA coach John Wooden?
ALT3 ... that before selling fried chicken and pies, the 5-foot-9-inch (1.75 m) Eddie Sheldrake played basketball under UCLA coach John Wooden?
@Tenpop421: How about ALT2 (preferably) or ALT3?—Bagumba (talk) 12:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bagumba: I prefer ALT3, but I'll let whoever closes the DYK decide. I'm satisfied that these ALTs are sharper than the original hook. Good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 13:03, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll also add my ALT for completeness's sake. Tenpop421 (talk) 15:37, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4: ... that before selling chicken and pies, 5-foot-9-inch (1.75 m) Eddie Sheldrake broke UCLA's single-game scoring record in basketball?


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Wasswa Serwanga

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  • ... that Wasswa Serwanga and his twin brother were the first two NFL players from Uganda?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Society for Crypto-Judaic Studies
  • Comment: Could expand his twin brother's article (Kato Serwanga) to add to the hook if needed. Might also work to have a hook on the aspect of his wealthy father narrowly surviving an attempted murder from Idi Amin and selling his possessions in exchange for a plane ticket to bring Wasswa to the U.S. (not sure how it'd be best worded though...). Also, the QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 258 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Malik Arslan

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  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Aintabli (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Aintabli (talk) 16:15, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not needed as nominator has 5 or less nominations. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 16:46, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pablo Barragán

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2119 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: New and long enough, at 2223 characters; the hook isn't interesting enough, so could you suggest an alt hook? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Figureskatingfan: I've taken a look at the article, hoping to propose an alternate hook, but unfortunately nothing stands out that would meet WP:DYKINT. Even the review quote seems to be more about Schumann Quartet rather than Barragán specifically. Unfortunately the article as currently written doesn't seem to have any content that would make for non-specialist hooks, so I would recommend failing the nomination for lack of DYKINT-meeting material. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5:, I respectfully disagree. If Gerda doesn't mind, I have a suggestion:
  • ALT1: ... that clarinetist Pablo Barragán from Andalusia has performed in music festivals and played as a soloist with orchestras throughout Europe? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:30, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the offer, but why would you prefer such a general thing - which says about nothing about the quality of those venues, and nothing about the specific gifts of this person because it's true for almost all performers with an article on Wikipedia. It's so general that he could be a jazz clarinetist or a klezmer clarinetist. Wigmore Hall is The hall for chamber musicians. - I am sorry that I don't have time for a better hook right now, just returning from travel, with an article on the Main page about a person who just died, and whom I saw a few weeks ago. His hook was specific, and I go for hooks that are true for the person in question and nobody else. Patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ps: the 2011 hook for Epitaphium, remembered in the context, also mentioned Wigmore Hall: ... that Epitaphium, composed for string trio by Graham Waterhouse, is performed today in Wigmore Hall in a memorial concert for his father, the bassoonist William Waterhouse? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Gerda, that's the trouble with non-experts trying to come up with something about something they know very little about. I was going for something more general, but if you and Grimes2 are fine with the hook being about something as specific as your hook, I'm fine with that. I will also take your word that playing Brahms in London is impressive and interesting. As your reviewer, I'm also fine with your taking as much time as you need. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:45, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. I heard this impressive player at the Casals Forum which is possibly the #4 hall in the world, but I refrained from mentioning that event because he was part of a mixed program (watch), while in the Clarinet Quintet, as the name tells, he is the first (among equals). Playing chamber music is actually more demanding than playing with an orchestra, more individual so to speak, and it tells a lot about this person that he pursues it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    With the best will in the world, a hook that boils down to "a musician from a place played a piece by one of the most famous composers in history with other musicians in a concert hall" is about as general as you can get. If a hook relies on specialist knowledge—such as Wigmore Hall being the hall for chamber musicians, or chamber music telling you a lot about the person—to be interesting, then it's fairly clear that WP:DYKINT is not met. I'd also request that Gerda write another hook. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I doesn't "rely" because we have links, to both the hall as well as the the music. Those who know both will be intrigued, and for others, they should still get that this person from southern Spain plays German music with a German quartet in England, which - for my taste - says the same as "all over Europe" but more precisely and therefore better. Did you watch him play? I had the alarm clock before 5 in the morning, - please have patience. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's ... not what "played all over Europe" means at all ... but sure, have as much time as you want (within WP:DYKTIMEOUT, ofc). ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, I was not clear perhaps. Phrases such as "all over Europe" drive me crazy as saying nothing in their general vagueness, - promotional speak. Mentioning international collaboration of Spanish and German musicians at an English place seems so much more honest and precise, and now that place is even the most highly appreciated one you could think of, and then you tell me it's not interesting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The main issue here is that, as mentioned above, such a hook would require knowing Wigmore Hall's prestige or at least familiarity with it, which most readers would not have. It would not meet WP:DYKINT, specifically likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest (emphasis mine). Knowing Wigmore Hall, its prestige, or its context, counts as special knowledge and thus limits the hook's audience. Even with the link, the interest of the hook has to be self-evident. Without the context, readers would just think that performing at the venue was no different from performing at any venue. Many readers will not bother to click the link and learn more, so ideally, the context has to be apparent right from the get go. This is not to say that the angle is unsalvageable, just that there might be a better way to present it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I patiently disagree. Repeating: the hook speaks of collaboration between Spanish and German musicians in England (even without knowing Wigmore Hall, but our 2011 readers know Wigmore Hall already). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Financial Times : "If western chamber music has a mecca, it's London's Wigmore Hall." https://www.ft.com/content/605a4f2a-d7a8-11e0-a06b-00144feabdc0

ALT2: ... that after Pablo Barragán played the Brahms Clarinet Quintet with the Schumann Quartet at London's Wigmore Hall, a reviewer said they were "poised and searching", with Barragán as first among equals? Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine. Grimes2 (talk) 09:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The hook is 199 characters which is just under the length limit. It also crams in a lot of details that might distract readers. At the very least it is prime for a trimming. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2a: ... that after Pablo Barragán played the Brahms Clarinet Quintet with the Schumann Quartet at London's Wigmore Hall, a reviewer said they were "poised and searching"?
As said above, in a clarinet quintet the clarinetist is always the first among equals. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reading the review that the hooks are based on, what I come away with is that "poised and searching" refers to the first movement of the Brahms only, as does the reference to the clarinetist being first among equals. Why isn't "first among equals" being quoted in the article when it's the phrase the reviewer wrote? (In talking about the opening string quartet by Brahms, the reviewer also uses "first among equals" for the viola in the third movement.) Phrases like "fully involving performance" (referring specifically to the quintet) or "an evening of fine music-making throughout" might be more to the point than a "poised and searching" opening movement.
However, none of these really make an interesting a hook. The problem is that there really aren't any hooky things about Barragán: this article is mostly culled from versions of his bio, almost certainly written by him or his agents and published by presenters, plus awards from when he was a young, talented clarinetist, starting out. There's nothing that stands out as unusual, or special: he sounds like an excellent clarinetist, but that in itself does not make an interesting hook. The proposed hooks are all about a single well-received chamber music concert, which is something that could be said of a great many instrumentalists: Wigmore Hall must have dozens of such concerts every year. I was puzzled by the sentence "He became a lecturer of the foundation in the Near East", and then realized that this was probably referring to the Barenboim-Said Foundation in the previous paragraph, though I think "Near East" needs a more precise location if you're going to includes this statement, and a reintroduction of the foundation's name, since this comes right after the mention of the Western-Eastern Divan Orchestra—I thought maybe Western-Eastern Divan were backed by a foundation since that's the context and it's still the same paragraph. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:19, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with what you said about the article, and writing more was why I asked for patience. - I don't agree with the "hookiness" requirement. I believe we should say something interesting about this person, as we do for some worms and songs, - it doesn't have to be sensational or quirky. This player is great in chamber music. It shows better by a wonderful piece in a great hall that the general statement. I don't need any reviewer's wording which is always subjective, nor "first among equals" which is normal for the clarinet in a clarinet quintet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The issue is that WP:DYKINT is a guideline, one whose current wording was upheld via an RFC, so regardless if you agree with the requirement or not, hooks should follow it. They don't have to be "sensational" or "quirky", but they do have to be hooky, and in particular, they have to appeal to a broad audience. BlueMoonset is right in that, while Barragán is undoubtedly a talented musician, the hooks themselves are not hooky to a broad audience. If no possible or hooky hook can be proposed, then unfortunately the nomination may have to be rejected. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You and I obviously disagree about the meaning of the word "guideline". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not directly stated at WP:DYKG, but generally speaking, guidelines are standards "that editors should attempt to follow, though occasional exceptions may apply." Those rules should only be ignored for a good reason, if there is a pressing need to do so. Given how central the interestingness criterion is to DYK and how it works, there usually isn't a good reason to be exempted from it just because you don't agree with it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added a CD, with a review (from 31 October) and a fun trailer (in English). If you want a little piece of more general public appeal instead of the mature and extraordinary Brahms:

The arrangement was written for his teacher. I gave you the yt above, - hope you enjoyed it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is his actual recording and therefore promotional content. We should avoid this. Grimes2 (talk) 17:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I heard it in concert (also the Hartmann, - will have to write that article, another piece banned by the Nazis). The hook doesn't speak about recording. I also believe that I expressed my preference for Brahms clearly. Off to choir rehearsal. Anybody out there to write a lead? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:15, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did a cursory google search on Barragan and found nothing non-promotional. On his webpage, there are some reviews, but they didn't bother to include any reference material, so you may need to do a search for each non-promotional item. More work, I know, but it'd help improve the article, too. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Without having seen this comment, I added an interview, also music ;) - Have you listened! - Getting close to midnight: no more today. Tomorrow, my first objective is to improve the Bach cantata for yesterday, second a Benjamin Britten piece for his birthday, as all last years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are also issues with ALT3. Again, it's reliant on specialist knowledge (most readers don't know who Bartók is, not helped by a lack of a link), and it's a "person is doing his job" hook, something that several editors suggest avoiding. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There could be a link to Bartók in the hook, but not in the article, per music projects, to avoid a sea of blue. When a piece has an article, the creator doesn't need one, because whoever really doesn't know who Bartók is (or Mozart) could be sure to find it in the piece's article. What you do, discrediting facts around classical music as "not interesting", feels discriminating. Perhaps 4meter4 can explain Bartók to you, as Puccini before, and perhaps also Brahms. - You have been told before that musicians don't "do their job", but create something new in each performance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:58, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bartok is a major 20th century composer who is well known and frequently performed globally. I don't think referencing him would be considered "specialist knowledge" anymore than referencing a major novelist like Charles Dickens would be. He isn't an obscure or trivial composer. I do however, think the Romanian Folk Dances by Bartok is a rather obscure work by that composer and the instrumentation alteration is a specialist set of knowledge. The hook is therefore inappropriate under our "specialist knowledge" guideline. That said, I don't think any of these hooks are particularly compelling. In general it's better in biographical hooks to attempt to find a hook based on the musicians personal life rather than focus on critical reception or specific repertoire unless there is something really shocking or unusual about a particular work or the critical reception, or if the musician played a well known piece at its world premiere. None of these really fit that description. They are all pretty boring routine kinds of content about a classical musician. We need something better than this to draw the reader in.4meter4 (talk) 23:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't classical music itself being uninteresting. Both 4meter and CurryTime7-24, among other editors, have proposed multiple hooks in the past about classical music and opera that met the interestingness guidelines just fine. See for example two of CurryTime's nominations about classical music performers, Harvey Shapiro and Sofiya Vakman. They are similar to your nominations in that they too are about performers, the difference is that CurryTime made an effort to make the hooks meet WP:DYKINT and not be reliant on specialist knowledge of classical music. The hooks also avoid being pure work-based hooks. To repeat: there is no discrimination against classical music the topic area, and plenty of acceptable classical music hooks have run in the past. The issue has always been the choice in hooks, wordings, and sometimes articles, rather than an issue with classical music itself.
In Vakman's case, she ran with a hook that went "... that Sofia Vakman relinquished a career as a concert pianist because a skin disorder she contracted after swimming made it painful for her to play?" instead of a hook that went "... that Sofia Vakman performed in the world premiere of Shostakovich's Six Poems by Marina Tsvetayeva, serving as accompanist to Irina Bogacheva?" The latter hook would certainly appeal to you and is probably similar to the hook you would have proposed for Vakman had you written her article, but it would simply not attract non-classical music fans. The former, while undoubtedly sad, is more likely to get readers given how it's not reliant on classical music knowledge, and is also a surprising fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are proving my point, do you realize that? You suggest to avoid a fact about classical music in favour of a fact about her career. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Vakman's hook was not mine and I never participated in the discussion, I only gave it as an example of what would make a good classical music hook. And sometimes, especially for biographies, what 4meter4 said is correct: it's often the case that information about personal life is hookier or more appealing to broad audiences than something directly related to their job. Once again, the example of Winston Churchill, who ran on DYK not with a hook about his long political career, but rather his little-known hobby of bricklaying. Or how when Charles III and Prince William ran on DYK, their DYK hook facts were about unusual incidents in their life rather than something directly related to them being royalty. There seems to be a fundamental conflict between how you interpret DYK's guidelines and how DYK works in practice, because you want your hooks to always be about the subject's job or claim to fame directly, whereas DYK does not require that and there's nothing against hooks not being about what a subject is best known for, if there are better options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt I don't think you are being fair to Narutolovehinata5. What I think Narutolovehinata5 is trying to express is that hooks on biographical articles should be biographical in nature. When we make the hook more about a piece of music then the person who is the subject of the article it inherently makes for a weaker and non-interesting hook. I agree with this. When writing on people, the hook should be predominantly focused on the person and not the music. That's not saying music can't be included, it just needs to be clearly centered on the human being and not the music repertoire. Ideally, biographical hooks on classical musicians incorporate a musical fact that is biographically centered on the person and is interesting. It's a challenging balance to get just right.4meter4 (talk) 00:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not just that. There's nothing wrong with having a hook that's about their performances or career, but the context or point of the hook has to be easily appreciated even by non-classical music fans. A hook that is too reliant on specialist knowledge of the field is almost always a bad hook, and this is an issue that is not only limited to opera. Ideally, we have to appeal to broadest possible audience, requiring the most common knowledge or context, instead of relying on information that even most fans of a field or industry may not know. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think specialist knowledge is as big of a problem as the CV aspect of most of the hook proposals. "Such and such person performs this particular piece at this theatre" is a really boring "resume formula" that doesn't usually have anything interesting to say about the person as a person or as a performer. The hook should reveal something about the person beyond the kind of repertoire they are performing and where they are performing it. Likewise, I don't think critical reception blurbs are particularly great when focused on an individual piece of music. It's too esoteric in most cases, and arguably so specific as to have very limited appeal. Much better is an overall assessment of a performer across time, or a critical review that has a bigger broader overview of a performer outside of just a single piece of music. Big picture analysis is far preferable to assessment inside one particular performance. The "first among equals" critical assessment is actually the closest to this among the quotes discussed on this page as it places him in comparison to his peers. To me that's interesting and could make for a good hook. I strongly encourage adding that quote into the article and using that quote in a hook proposal. I would avoid naming specific repertoire in the hook, but focus on the assessment against his peers.4meter4 (talk) 00:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT5: ... that classical clarinetist Pablo Barragán was described by one music critic as "first among equals" when compared with his peers? (this would be contingent on Gerda adding this content into the article with a citation)
This is not very creative by the music critic: "Fuchs, like Brahms, treats the clarinet as first among equals." First coined by Alfred Einstein for the Mozart Clarinet Quintet: the clarinet "predominates as primus inter pares" Grimes2 (talk) 00:57, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, so it wasn't even about Barragán. I struck it.4meter4 (talk) 01:12, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4: Are you okay with some variant of ALT4? The current version might be a bit long or otherwise need trimming (it's 188 characters), but would you be okay with a shorter version of it? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is workable if we reverse the order and trim it to make it hookier:
Alt4a ... that Pablo Barragán, a classical clarinetist who has performed at music festivals and with the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra, originally wanted to be a jazz saxophonist? 4meter4 (talk) 01:34, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Even better might be to trim the orchestra which isn't all that well-known outside of classical music fans living in Spain and the Middle East (most wikipedia readers on the English wiki won't know it):
Alt4b ... that Pablo Barragán, a classical clarinetist who performs with orchestras and at festivals in Europe, originally wanted to be a jazz saxophonist?
I like ALT4b. @Grimes2: Are you okay with it? If you are I can give it a tick. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:45, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer ALT4a. West–Eastern Divan Orchestra is an interesting project (Israelis and Palestinians), that should get a wider audience. Grimes2 (talk) 01:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Grimes2: I guess as a compromise, we can leave the decision to the promoter. In any case, I've struck all hooks except ALT4a and ALT4b. The issue right now is that the jazz saxophonist part is currently not in the article, and thus would need to be added. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:59, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eunus

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Bronze alloy coin minted by Eunus under the name of King Antiochus. On the obverse is the head of Demeter, while the reverse shows a grain ear.
Bronze alloy coin minted by Eunus under the name of King Antiochus. On the obverse is the head of Demeter, while the reverse shows a grain ear.
  • Source: Urbainczyk, Theresa (2014). Slave Revolts in Antiquity, pp. 52, 56. Park Square, Milton Park, Abingdon, 711 Third Avenue, New York, NY 10017, USA: Routledge. ISBN 978-1-84465-101-6.
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Improved to Good Article status by Harren the Red (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Harren the Red (talk) 18:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, well sourced, hook is interesting and QPQ is completed. I don't see anything that would hold this back from DYK, so I approve. Only thing I will say is that I don't think this image should be used, as I don't find it particularly informative, and the caption is also quite long. However, if anyone disagrees, feel free. TheBritinator (talk) 22:42, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On a second look, it would appear that the website the image is sourced from declares that the image is published under a CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 license, which would make it incompatible with commons. If I am missing something, please feel free to correct me. TheBritinator (talk) 22:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can certainly edit the caption to be shorter (more concise), but from what I gather the image is a no go? I am not the original uploader of it to Commons, nor am I super familiar with copyright, so I will defer that judgement to you, though the image on commons itself says CC 4.0 international license. Also, would I edit the caption here, submit a new entry, or something else? How does the process work exactly? Thank you! Harren the Red (talk) 23:16, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Harren the Red:, no need for a new nomination, we'd just not use the image. Is that good for you? TheBritinator (talk) 13:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheBritinator:, yes, certainly! Thank you for the help :) Harren the Red (talk) 15:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, then I approve of the hook. TheBritinator (talk) 16:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The proposed hook has two non-bolded links next to each other, which is discouraged by WP:DYKMOS. Since "slave" is linked to the more specific page Slavery in ancient Rome, I think it's better to unlink "Syrian". jlwoodwa (talk) 05:52, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jlwoodwa: I'm perfectly fine with unlinking Syrian. Harren the Red (talk) 16:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TheBritinator and Harren the Red:, you cannot be "king of a war", right? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:18, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: hi, the verbage is a bit of an oversimplification. Eunus became king of the revolting slaves; so I guess it could be that he "rose to become leader and king of the First Servile Revolt", but the name of the article on the war is First Servile War, so it reads a bit strangely. It can certainly be edited toward that end. Harren the Red (talk) 16:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: Does the above satisfy your concerns? Z1720 (talk) 23:17, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good to me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Genesis (Lebrun)

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Genesis (1960)
Genesis (1960)
  • ... that Rico Lebrun refused to provide the Pomona College Board of Trustees with sketches for approval of the Genesis mural (pictured) they commissioned from him? Source: Art Journal "The president of Pomona then suggested that a committee of trustees should see sketches for approval. Both Selz and Lebrun objected on the grounds that the work of a well-known artist should be evaluated on the basis of his accomplishments. The donors took the same position. After a year's delay, while Lebrun was at Yale, the president and trustees agreed to give the artist a free hand."
    • ALT1: ... that Genesis (pictured) is "a religious painting created during a non-religious age"? Source: Benton Museum of Art "In the words of art historian Peter Selz, 'by and large, he stands as a controversial and solitary figure, and the Genesis mural, a religious painting created during a non-religious age, remains a unique act.'"
    • ALT2: ... that Rico Lebrun's preparatory drawings for Genesis (pictured) covered most of the tables in the Pomona College dining hall where he painted it? Source: The History of Pomona College, 1887-1969 Lebrun had planned to paint the mural during the summer of 1960 and arrived in June with drawings so extensive that they covered most of the tables of Frary Hall.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rabbit
    • Comment: Given that the subject is a mural, an inherently visual topic, I would much prefer this to appear with the image (even if it means having to wait longer for a slot to open).
Created by Chirpy-slirpy-BURPY (talk) and Sdkb (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 42 past nominations.

Sdkb talk 06:34, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great to see this article! One issue with the hook: it is worded fine, but the article text currently says that the Board asked for sketches, whereas the source says it was the President. Since creator requests use of image, let's get another opinion on clarity. Maybe a better image can be obtained from Pomona? This is my first DYK review, so would welcome comments or a second review. Update: No other reviewer commented, as requested. See discussion of wording of the hook. ProfGray (talk) 03:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Genesis (1960)
Genesis (1960)
Detail of Genesis (1960)
Detail of Genesis (1960)
Thanks for taking a look and doing the review, ProfGray! My understanding from the sources is that the president suggested there be a review, but that the actual review would have been done by the trustees' Buildings and Grounds committee, which is why I used the wording I did.
Agreed with you that the alt hooks are significantly less interesting, so let's focus on ALT0.
Also, good catch that the details are a little hard to make out at 100px. Pomona hasn't ever responded when I've asked them to donate images in the past, but luckily since the work itself is PD we don't need their permission to have some options. One is to crop the existing image a bit to zoom in. And the second is to use a detail from the center of the mural rather than trying to capture the full thing. Lmk which you prefer!
Cheers, Sdkb talk 21:07, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Image looks better on my computer! In terms of President vs Board, I'm happy to trust your understanding of the sources, just be sure that the hook and article wording are consistent.Cheers, ProfGray (talk) 01:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ProfGray: Are there any other concerns with this hook? If not, is this approved? Z1720 (talk) 23:19, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. The proposed hook still needs to be rephrased, so that "sketches for approval" does not need to be in quotes. For example: that Rico Lebrun refused to provide sketches for the Pomono College Board of Trustees to sign off on the Genesis mural they commissioned?
Afaik, this can be approved even though the ALT hooks are weak.@Sdkb:@Z1720: ProfGray (talk) 01:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Three words generally isn't considered long enough for there to be any copyright issues. If you're ready to sign off, ProfGray, you need to provide the green check, {{subst:dyktick}}. Sdkb talk 05:41, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For text as visible as DYK, seems best to err on the side of caution. It's not the number of words per se, see examples at WP:NOCREATIVE with two words. Should be feasible to revise the hook, even keeping the exact word 'sketches.' Indeed, the article itself doesn't use the phrase as is. Presumably there are reasonable alternatives to the word 'approval.' (FWIW, the paraphrasing in the overall article is skillfully done.) ProfGray (talk) 13:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ProfGray, per the essay you just linked, there is no copyrightable creative expression in that factual phrase "sketches for approval" (I arrived at the wording independently after rephrasing the Wikipedia article) — this is not borderline. I do not find the rewrite to flow as well. I'd appreciate it if you could answer my query from above about which image alternative you'd prefer, and then let's please wrap this up. Sdkb talk 03:59, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sdkb I'm giving my green approval, for lack of a better of a word. It's a fine article and certainly deserves a DYK. Use whichever image you think would be best. All the best, ProfGray (talk) 02:30, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 4

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Echoes of Life Tour

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  • Reviewed:
Created by Henni147 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Henni147 (talk) 04:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC). Alright, I'm going to attempt reviewing this. First review for me, so it'll take a bit of time. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - refer to comments
QPQ: None required.

Overall: 3.8% at earwig, not too sure about hookinterest. Will need a second opinion. Pinging User:Sky Harbor. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Hook discussion
Thank you very much for taking on this review! I was not sure about the hook myself. Alternatives could be that it's (1) the second solo ice show tour to be ever produced or (2) that the show deals with the ethics of artificial intelligence among others (which is a rather unusual topic for an entertainment event). Do you think, that might work? If yes, I will try to figure out how to phrase and source the hook best. Henni147 (talk) 07:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the current hook would pass scrutiny per WP:DYKSO: The hook should not put emphasis on a commercial release date of the article subject. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Henni147:, I guess ALT1 (...that Echos of Life Tour is the second solo ice show tour to be ever produced?) may do the job? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5 and AlphaBetaGamma: Then let's go with ALT1? I just need to find a source that explicitely mentions 'Echoes of Life' as the second solo tour production. It's quite a clear fact because Hanyu's Repray Tour in 2023–24 was the first one, and no other skater has ever produced or performed a solo ice show. But we need to support it by a reliable secondary source. Henni147 (talk) 08:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 is probably not a good idea as it is an exceptional claim and thus would require exceptional sourcing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: We just got the news that a full story book will be published before the first show for better access and understanding of the story. Would that be suitable for a hook text? It's quite unusual that a show or concert tour is accompanied by a book. I expect Japanese newspapers to publish some detailed reports within the next few hours. Henni147 (talk) 09:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, because a hook about a book being published would arguably count as advertising and would not fly among the DYK regulars. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: True, didn't think of the promotional aspect. There is one more idea for a hook:

ALT3: "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko who also choreographed the Tokyo handover segment at the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?"

This hook is supported by the source above and this one by the Japan Times newspaper: "The Tokyo handover segment of the Rio 2016 closing ceremony balanced cool imagery, references galore and meme-worthy moments. That team included musician Sheena Ringo and choreographer Mikiko Mizuno [...]" Henni147 (talk) 11:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the tool I'm using, the hook is 203 in prose, which exceeeds the 200 limit. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AlphaBetaGamma: Oh okay, so the "that" at the beginning is not included in the count. Does this adjustment work?

ALT3 (shortened): "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko who was also involved in the choreography of the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?"
Sources: Hanyu Yuzuru to unveil 'Echoes of Life' show on 30th birthday (Olympics.com) and The Olympic opening ceremony that wasn't (The Japan Times).

This hook should have 195 characters now, but better check as well to be sure. Henni147 (talk) 07:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's 195 characters. Guess that's a wrap? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 09:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AlphaBetaGamma and Narutolovehinata5: Thank you very much for checking the hook and taking on this review in general. I hope, all issues have been fixed now. I wonder if the review template at the top needs to be updated to conclude the review? I'm not familiar with the system. Henni147 (talk) 10:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Hermance Edan

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  • Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795
  • ALT1: ... that little is known of Hermance Edan before she patented her first board game in 1908, at the age of 57? Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795
  • ALT2: ... that L'Attaque, the board game that became Stratego, was patented in 1908 by its designer, a 57-year-old woman? Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farrest (talk • contribs) 05:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I translated this article from the French, so the references in the article may need some work, but Edan's age at the time of her patent seems well-attested. Thanks for your consideration!
Created by Farrest (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Farrest (talk) 20:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 6

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John Hawks (architect)

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5x expanded by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 86 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:00, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is new enough and long enough. In regards to your comment above, it looks like this actually was nominated without seven days of the 5x expansion. The hook is interesting and cited. No copyright problems. There's probably not a picture of him out there anywhere. I didn't see anything on a quick search. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 7

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Sequenza XIV

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  • ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, in 2002 the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by the artistry of Rohan de Saram including traditional Kandyan drumming? Source: [8]
    • Reviewed: to come
    • Comment: This is one of the key works of 21st-century classical music.
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2118 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - ?
Overall: Hi Gerda Arendt, happy to do the DYK review. The article has a readable prose size of 4310 characters. It was created yesterday. Every paragraph in the body of the article is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyright problems. QPQ has not yet been done. I have a minor quibble about the hook: it seems to me that it tries to convey too many individual facts. What about something simpler like

or

Thank you for reviewing, and the suggestions. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mind. I believe that the one thing fascinating "Maestro Berio" (as he is called by the cellist) as well as the ordinary Main page reader is this drumming. We can rather do without the series if it's really too much. I can also imagine to improve the series article to make it a double hook. ALT1 is no option for me because some kind of reverence for the cellist (and drummer) was the motivation to write the article. Making him GA seemed harder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I see. If we want to go without the series, we could use something like
ALT3: ...that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio was inspired by the childhood experiences of cellist Rohan de Saram with Kandyan drumming?
But I think your original suggestion also meets the DYK requirements so the decision may be more a matter of taste. Approved. Phlsph7(talk) 07:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I think that ALT3 is a bit smallish, - the childhood drumming is just part of the inspiration, the playing of one of the most inspiring cellists of all times should not be left out completely ;) - I learned of his death from a friend who is a cellist, and felt his enthusiasm remembering a live concert of Xenakis. Berio knew why he added to a series that had already been considered complete ("complete" recording in 1995), - it's an outstanding piece in every respect and deserves a little longer hook, imho. We can't use any of the pics, sadly, because de Saram's is not free, and Berio's is way too young for one of his last works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One last alternative if we want to go for the full package: what do you think about the following, a version of ALT0 copy-edited only for better flow:
ALT0a: ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, completed in 2002 as the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by Rohan de Saram's artistry, including traditional Kandyan drumming?
Phlsph7 (talk) 10:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Celie Ellis Turner

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  • ... that despite the classical music education her wealthy family had her study, Celie Ellis Turner chose to join comic opera and farce theatre over her parents' objections?
  • Source: * "Miss Ellis is a graduate of the Villa Maria Convent of Montreal, Canada, and received her musical education under Mme. Kartel, taking a post graduate course at the Metropolitan College of Music in New York." - Celie Ellis, The Sentinel
  • "She comes from one of the best families in New York, her father having been a Congressman from that State and her mother a near relative of ex-Gov. Seymour. Her family objected strongly to her going on the stage..." - At The Gardens, St. Louis Post-Dispatch
  • "Miss Celie Ellis, who has been prominent in comic opera and farce comedy for a number of years..." - Dramatic, Minneapolis Daily Times
Created by Silver seren (talk) and FloridaArmy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 131 past nominations.

SilverserenC 19:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Johann Friedrich Hartknoch

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First edition of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
First edition of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
Created by Yakikaki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 141 past nominations.

Yakikaki (talk) 21:42, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Yakikaki, review follows: article created on 8 October and exceeds minimum length; sources are cited inline throughout; sources look to be reliable; I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing from the English-language sources; hook fact is interesting, stated in the article and checks out to source cited and elsewhere (and the image of the book itself!); image is good and well out of copyright. Just awaiting a QPQ, I think - Dumelow (talk) 06:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All good - Dumelow (talk) 13:01, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 9

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Veiqia

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Nundua, seated, veiqia tattoos visible at her hips
Nundua, seated, veiqia tattoos visible at her hips
  • ... that when young Fijian women reached puberty, their hips were tattooed with veiqia (pictured)? Source: "In nineteenth-century Fiji, when a girl reached puberty, she was tattooed in a secluded enclosure by a daubati (female specialist)." https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv18kc0px.19 & for hips, see " following account of tatuing (veinggia) is brief and incomplete partly because it is a custom restricted to the female sex and then confined to that portion of the body surrounding the pudendurn muliebre and adjacent areas which are covered by the short fringe skirt (liku)" https://www.jstor.org/stable/2790097
Improved to Good Article status by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 107 past nominations.

Lajmmoore (talk) 20:55, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Recent GA. Article is well-referenced throughout with no copyvio detected. Hook is interesting and referenced. Image confirmed to be PD. Good to go with the QPQ done. Juxlos (talk) 06:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Helmut Bauer (bishop)

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Maria im Aufgang chapel in Schimborn
Maria im Aufgang chapel in Schimborn
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2120 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Date, length, hook, QPQ, close paraphrase check checks out. Image free on Commons (albeit not great quality). --Soman (talk) 13:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Soman and Gerda Arendt: a couple of things. Firstly, on English terminology: notwithstanding the direct translation of "Feldkapelle", a "chapel" in English is usually a room in a larger building. I would instead call this a "shrine" or similar.
      Secondly, on WP:DYKINT: perhaps we could trim the bits about his various jobs and focus on the chapel? To me, it is interesting that it is now a hiking destination, or that a ceremony has been held on the same feast day since 1984, the day of its consecration. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    learning English: this is the first time I hear that chapel has a different meaning from Kapelle. We could do nothing, relying on "usually". We could use the original Feldkapelle, which would clarify better that it is in nature (which the image shows - open to the front) but not clearly. "Shrine" tells me that there are some relics, such as those of Hildegard of Bingen in the village church of Eibingen (not the abbey). Wrong? - As for shortening: yes we could stop right after Gotteslob which speaks of responsibility for the common German-language hymnal (for German-language countries that is), far beyond the Würzburg diocese, and far far beyond some little open space in the fields. I only picked it because of the image, and because he loved Mary as well as church music. Yes, there was one piece to Mary sung in the Requiem, but the heavy weight was on Mozart's Requiem. - Just today I remember a 10-years-old hook about Mela Tenenbaum, and am happy that it says something about geography in her life and dedication of music to her, and not just that she played a piece with an unusual instrumentation, or just that she played on Queen Elizabeth 2. Happy also to have mentioned Ukraine in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, perhaps using the original Feldkapelle would be best. The image is also rather low-quality and probably shouldn't be used. With that in mind, I'm rather struck by his work on confirmations—including the 500 in Tanzania. If he considered that work his prime duty, he'd probably prefer a hook on it—and you get something about geography in his life too. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1: ... that Helmut Bauer, responsible for church music in Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, confirmed around 150,000 young people, including 500 in Tanzania? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok for ALT1. I'm still also ok with the original hook, a kapelle is a chapel and a feldkapelle is a field chapel. See for example "feldkapelle, or field chapel, a Northern European tradition of building small chapels in rural and agrarian landscapes." ([10]) --Soman (talk) 09:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael F. Adams

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Adams in 2013
Adams in 2013
Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Earwig comes up high, but everything seems to be long names of organizations Valereee (talk) 20:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Personally I find ALT1 the most interesting, ALT0 as second choice. Not wild about all the affiliated sources for the hooks, can we find somethng from places he didn't work? Valereee (talk) 20:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Chislehurst

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  • Source: "The exiled Emperor himself died in 1873 and was buried on 15 January 1873 in St Mary’s ... she transferred the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin in 1888," from Taking Stock, by Historic England.
Created by Cardofk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Cardofk (talk) 08:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Cardofk, review follows: article created 9 October and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources for the subject; I didn't pick up anything I considered overly close to the main source in a check for close paraphrasing; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; a QPQ has been started. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 11:52, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cardofk: The source indeed says: "in 1881 the Empress founded St Michael’s Abbey at Farnborough, where she transferred the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin in 1888" but down the bottom it also says: "both the Emperor’s sarcophagus and the Prince’s coffin were removed by the Empress to Farnborough, Hants., in 1889. There is a memorial to the Prince Imperial on the East wall of the church erected by Monsignor Goddard his friend and tutor on the spot where the Prince’s coffin rested from 1879-89." Do we have another source? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Hawkeye7: Thank you for catching that, yes I've added another source. The "list description" at the bottom of that source is the original property listing made in the 1970s by Historic England, often done very quickly with little evidence of verifiability. The long text above was done in the 2010s and often corrects the listing by providing more detail. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For confirmation the reburial took place in January see, for example, this contemporary report from The Tablet of 14 January 1888 - Dumelow (talk) 08:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 10

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Samuel Lander

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Lander c.1873–74
Lander c.1873–74
Moved to mainspace by PCN02WPS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 80 past nominations.

PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 19:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting life and work, on fine sources, offline source accepted AGF, no copyio obvious. Sorry I find both hooks not what would interest me about his life, and the second lacks any bold link to his name. The image is licensed and gives a good idea of not only him but his era. How about that he wasn't just some minister with many children, but founder and president of that early place for women's higher education? We women readers would prefer that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: thanks for the review. I have added ALT2 and ALT3 per your suggestions. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:17, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I like those better ;) I could also imagine to combine to one:
ALT2a: ... that Samuel Lander (pictured) founded in an abandoned hotel the Williamston Female College which grew into Lander University? - Good luck with the GAN! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 11

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Ross Mihara

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Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I will review this. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Approve ALT0. Interesting article. New enough (submitted on day of creation); long enough (4176 characters). Has multiple sources in English, appears BLP-compliant. (Small nit is that "Anonymous" is non-standard for references; if you can't find a byline, just leave it out, especially if you're citing a newspaper article. The one exception I might make is if someone went out of their way to use "Anonymous" as their byline.) Reads neutral; the large number of direct quotes makes it read a bit like a magazine article rather than an encyclopedia entry, but this isn't a show-stopper either, as the quotes appear to appropriately cite their sources. Spot check suggests copyright violation is not a problem. The single boldlinked article looks presentable. QPQ is done. There is no photo. This leaves the hooks. Strongly prefer and approve ALT0 which is interesting and cites a reliable source. Striking ALT1 on the basis that it's not that interesting (lots of people do things like that for charity) and it assumes readers know who Mark DeCarlo is. Other general comments: Is it worth explaining what some of those Japanese terms in the article mean? Not everyone wants to leave the article while reading it to click on the wikilinks. Happy to review additional ALT hooks if needed. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very kindly for the review. I may take you up on your offer on alternative ALTs. Please give me about a day to work on this. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 12

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Hasan Ali (activist)

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Created by Juxlos (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 230 past nominations.

Juxlos (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing. Sources are mostly in Indonesian so assuming good faith for them, although the PhD dissertation is in English and the stuff it verifies is verified. I will leave the choice in hook to the promoter. There are just two issues, one for each hook. For ALT0, I'm not actually sure if a PhD dissertation is a suitable source in this case, although it's not giving an exceptional claim perhaps it might be usable. For ALT1, the sentence saying that it was finished in 2002 (and thus the dictionary took 24 years to finish) lacks a footnote, so right now it doesn't meet WP:DYKCITE. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos: Almost there. I tried opening the Tempo link used to cite ALT1 but I got redirected to the website's front page. Is the article only available in Indonesia or is the link dead? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Weird, that worked when I made the nom. Seems like the website changed how its hyperlinks worked very recently. Added an archive.org link ([13]) from 2021.
Thank you, that should work. Assuming good faith for the Tempo source, although a GT translation checks out. Hook choice will be left to the promoter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Veylma Falaeo

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Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 261 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article looks good, giving a complete overview of the subject's biography, thoroughly citing its sources and presenting facts in a neutral manner. Per WP:DYKHOOK, "first" hooks are given greater scrutiny, but I think this meets the criteria for exceptional sourcing as RFI and other sources all draw attention to Falaeo being the first; the fact can also be independently verified by looking at the list of presidents of the congress (linked in the hook). Only thing currently missing is a QPQ, feel free to ping me once that is done. Grnrchst (talk) 14:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Following up on the QPQ. In the future I would highly suggest having a stash of reviews and/or doing the reviews before making the nomination, in order to avoid cases like this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Charles J. M. Gwinn

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Charles J. M. Gwinn
Charles J. M. Gwinn
Created by Queen of Hearts (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 03:32, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Going to review this one! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Article is new enough, having been moved from draftspace on October 12.
    • Three times the required length, certainly long enough.
    • Very well sourced, copyvio doesn't show anything substantial, no POV or BLP issues to be found.
    • Article is presentable. If we want to quibble on the details, the second picture is staggered from the infobox on V10, but that's not the kind of presentability issue that really matters at DYK.
    • Thankfully, the book is in open access! The first hook is fully cited there, and the second one is mostly cited there, although it does not mention that the will was drafted prior to him becoming Attorney General. To be fair, as Hopkins died two years prior, the inference is pretty obvious.
    • Both hooks are short enough.
    • The first hook is not necessarily amazing, as it already presumes knowledge of what a state's attorney in a city is (I didn't realize it was a distinct position from "attorney general" at first), and it isn't that surprising that someone drafting a constitution would get one of the offices it established. ALT1 is more interesting in my opinion, although it might depend on how recognizable Johns Hopkins is.
    • All images used in the article are public domain, and the hook image is present in the article and clear at a diminished size, so it is a good image.
    • QPQ has been done ahead of time.
    • No other issues, as far as I can see.
  • Should be fine for ALT1 at least! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kiki Wong

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Wong at a 2024 Smashing Pumpkins show with Green Day
Wong at a 2024 Smashing Pumpkins show with Green Day
  • Source: NME, June 2024: "Kiki Wong, the new guitarist in The Smashing Pumpkins, has spoken about the “mind-blowing” experience of playing her first shows with the band over the last week. [...] Among her claims to fame is playing drums for Taylor Swift's performance of "Shake It Off" at the 2014 MTV Video Music Awards."
Created by Jonathan Deamer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ: Unknown
Overall: Nice work! The pic especially is a great find. Innisfree987 (talk) 08:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 13

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Socialist Party of India (1955)

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Election symbol of the Socialist Party of India
Election symbol of the Socialist Party of India
  • ... that in its 1962 election campaign the Socialist Party of India (election symbol pictured) demanded that twice yearly inter-caste dining be made a mandatory criteria for government employment?
  • Source: Sinha, L. P. THE LEFTWING PARTIES AND THE GENERAL ELECTIONS, 1962. The Indian Journal of Political Science, vol. 23, no. 1/4, 1962, pp. 361–70. JSTOR
Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 403 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 15:08, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Bethwel Henry

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  • ... that Bethwel Henry was the first Micronesian to receive a degree in his field and served as a United Nations delegate at age 25?
  • Source: degree, UN (the source says he was 26, but he was born in 1934 per [14] and his own words ([15]) and thus would have been 25)
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 262 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is well sourced, hook is somewhat interesting and QPQ is completed. Playing a bit loose with the timing, but I don't see that being an issue, so I approve. TheBritinator (talk) 15:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mały Brzostek

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  • ... that there's a town in Poland which has disappeared?
Created by Filipny (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Filipny (talk) 20:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - AGF on the hook citations due to the fact that I don't speak Polish. ALT2 is ineligible due to the fact that it doesn't appear in the article (and also is somewhat contradicted by the map showing its location in the article). I'm not sure ALT1 is totally factual, is it really correct to say that a town that became a suburb of another was absorbed by it?
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Pass ALT0 only, other two hooks are ineligible for reasons described above. ALT0 probably also needs a minor reword, may I propose ALT0a: "... that a medieval town in Poland disappeared?". Although this isn't strictly a requirement, some copyediting to clean up awkward grammar/phrasing in the article before it appears on the front page would probably be nice. Thank you for this well researched article! 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ewa Ligocka

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  • ... that Ewa Ligocka cooked another mathematician's goose?
Created by David Eppstein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 187 past nominations.

—David Eppstein (talk) 00:19, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • template:


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A pleasure to read, thank you! Good to go. Innisfree987 (talk) 09:10, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 14

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Francis L. Sampson

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Official portrait of Major General Sampson, 1967
Official portrait of Major General Sampson, 1967
Improved to Good Article status by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • No QPQ needed. Passed GAN. Sources are reliable and article is long enough. Image is properly licensed. I think the first hook is too misleading, as when I first read it I thought it implied that Sampson's story played a big role in the film, but the article barely mentions that he suggested something to someone who's story did play a big role. I think that ALT 1 is better, but it should change the link to [[D-Day landings]] rather than the present [[Normandy landings|D-Day landings]] to keep it under the 200 character limit. Source is verified. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 08:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jabulani Mabuza

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  • Source: the majority of sources refer to him by the nickname, e.g. refs 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 13.
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 263 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 06:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laws of London

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  • ... that according to the medieval legal compilation known as the Laws of London, also known as IV Æthelred, merchants from lands ruled by the German emperor appear to have enjoyed special trading privileges in eleventh-century London?
  • Source: Robertson, Laws, p. 324; Naismith, "Laws of London", p. 2

Robertson: 'Subjects of the emperor appear to be specially privileged.' Naismith: 'Traders in London came from all over northern Europe: those of Rouen, Flanders, Ponthieu, Normandy and Francia are singled out, as well as others from specific towns in the Low Countries (Huy, Liège and Nivelles) and a group referred to as ‘the men of the emperor’ (homines imperatoris) who had especially wideranging

privileges.'
    • Reviewed:
Converted from a redirect by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Xifeng concentration camp

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Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 689 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article new and long enough, well-referenced throughout. Both hooks confirmed in the Muhlhahn book, and both interesting, either will work. QPQ is done, and copyvio not detected (Earwig only flagged long names). Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 07:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 15

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Rincón Chileno

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Rincón Chileno's delicatessen in 2024
Rincón Chileno's delicatessen in 2024
  • ALT1: ... that Rincón Chileno was described by Jonathan Gold "as much community center as it is a restaurant"? Source: [18]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aniello Prisco
  • Comment: I ask the reviewer's indulgence to please give me until Saturday (PDT) to upload an improved photo of Rincón Chileno's exterior. This one image here is the only one I have handy; thought I had more, but it turned out not. OK, new image added.
Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 50 past nominations.

CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is newly created, large enough, and sourced throughout. Hook fact is cited. I'm not fluent in Spanish but can translate "el segundo consulado de Chile en Los Angeles". ALT1 is also cited and supported by the reference, though I think it's less interesting. Earwig finds a copyvio to be unlikely. Image is appropriate and looks good at that size. QPQ review is provided. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Moore (basketball)

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  • ... that after learning that UCLA's student body president was Black, John Moore's mother said "this is where he's going to school"?
  • Source: "'You mean there are fifteen thousand students at this school, and out of all these people the student body president is black?' ... 'Well,' Johnny's mother said, 'this is where he's going to school.' "(Wooden: A Coach's Life)
Created by Bagumba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 111 past nominations.

—Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough. Hook is interesting, reads good, and is short enough. Everything in the article is cited. I read the entire article and just fixed a few minor things. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 16

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He Fucked the Girl Out of Me

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  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Not sure if this is the best hook, so feel free to make suggestions
Created by Vrxces (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Iostn (talk) 19:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: (t · c) buidhe 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Someone added the tag since I nominated this, despite it being in the lede and for material which is discussed further and cited in the same article. Iostn (talk) 22:44, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Buidhe: Are your concerns resolved, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like the citation needed tag is no longer there, so sure (t · c) buidhe 03:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KTSF

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 716 past nominations.

Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tea production in Indonesia

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Created by Juxlos (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 232 past nominations.

Juxlos (talk) 06:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Per WP:DYKCOMPLETE please expand the section Impact to more than a one sentence paragraph RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:16, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Easier to merge it to Statistics. That better? Juxlos (talk) 02:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos: works for me. Thanks for the efforts to create this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Smart (police officer)

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James Smart
James Smart
  • ... that Keir Starmer described Chief Constable James Smart (pictured) as "one of the founding fathers of the Scottish Police"?
Created by Sahaib (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 34 past nominations.

Sahaib (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Sahaib, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 16 October and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I hadn't heard of the publisher used for the citaiton for the hook but the author looks like they are reliable, holding a PhD and having written on the history of Scottish police elsewher (and being a former police superintendent); hook fact is mentioned in the article and supported by the source; image is OK and looks to be public domain by virtue of age; I didn't pick up any issues with overly-close paraphrasing from the online sources; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ McGowan, John (30 November 2022). Policing the Metropolis of Scotland: A History of Police in The City & County of Edinburgh, 1833-1901 (Volume I). Turlough Publishers. p. 1554. Retrieved 15 October 2023.

Articles created/expanded on October 17

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Derrick Harden

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  • ... that working at a post office was how Derrick Harden became an NFL player?
  • Source: Capital Times ("Another Wisconsin native is wide receiver Derrick Harden, a former Milwaukee South standout. Former Green Bay Packer Lionel Aldridge, who worked with Harden at a Milwaukee post office, recommended him to the Packers." - i.e. he became a Packer because he worked with Aldridge at a post office, since the latter was able to get him a tryout in the league)
Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 265 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Fishing cat

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  • ... that in Bangladesh, fishing cats are often confused for tiger cubs and are killed whenever they come into contact with humans?
  • ALT3: ...that the fishing cat diverged from its sister species at least 20,000 years ago?
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Wolverine XI (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Wolverine XI and BhagyaMani: A common ancestor of just the fishing cat or of the Fishing cat and the hybridized Leopard cat, or of the fishing and both leopard cat species? Also, the conflicting divergence estimates shouldn't be an "and" connector, they should be an "or", as they are in conflict with each other.--Kevmin § 21:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The fisher is not part of this scenario AT ALL, but is not even a cat. The fishing cat and the leopard cat are members of the same genus, hence had a common ancestor. Estimation of genetic divergence time from this last common ancestor was performed by two different author teams and derived from two different sets of genetic material + analysis. The 1st estimate for this divergence time of 4.31–1.74 million years ago (mya) was based on mitochondrial gene segments, and the 2nd of 4.25–0.02 mya on SNP genotyping. – BhagyaMani (talk) 01:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The snark is NOT appropriate, we're both aware the taxa in question here. Are you saying that the estimates are for the full genus then its also including the flat face cat and I get that two divergence dates are present, but it doesn't change that the wording "between 4.31 to 1.74 million years ago and 4.25 to 0.02 million years ago" is fallacious. The two dating results are mildly contradictory so saying "and" between them is not correct unless we are explicit about the genes involved, which the article does not do at this point. The clarification of mitochondrial and SNP genotyping is needed. I also feel that alt1 will run afowl of being to specialized for a broad audience as its currently worded.
There are also close paraphrase issues in the distribution and Behavior sections that should be dealt with. Full sections of sentences are pulled directly from the source material with no attempt at reqording.--Kevmin § 16:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kevmin: @Wolverine XI: What would you both think about this hook:ALT3 "... that the fishing cat is threatened by the destruction of wetlands in Southeast Asia?"
.. in Southeast Asiais erroneous, because destruction -- and conversion -- of wetlands is a threat EVERYWHERE in fishing cat range. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And how about amending ALT1 to ALT4 "... that the fishing cat diverged from the genus Prionailurus at least 20,000 years ago?" ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The close paraphrasing is dealt with, and ALT3 ALT4 hooks are sourced and more hooky for general audiences. GA is new enough and article is very well cited to neutral sourcing. For hook Alt4 @BhagyaMani: we could go with "... that the fishing cat diverged from its sister species at least 20,000 years ago?"--Kevmin § 16:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think using Prionailurus is more appropriate, as the words 'sister species' are not in the text. And I once learned that words in DYK phrasing needs to be in text. I also suggest to discard ALT1 with the details and source, the more so as this source is not the same as referenced in text. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thats an easy fix, add the words "sister species" into the molecular dating section of the article, the term is uncontroversial. I agree that ALT1 should be discarded.--Kevmin §
Since Wolverine XI proposed ALT1, shouldn't we wait with discarding this for them to comment and agree ? Though I proposed this to them initially, before I added ALT2. – BhagyaMani (talk) 19:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't receive those pings, because I had changed my username (quite surprised you guys didn't notice). Rest assured, nevertheless, that I should continue using this username throughout my tenure. So I've been keeping an eye on this DYK but recently I've been dealing with the worst kind of stress you can ever imagine, so I advise you all to choose something appropriate for this DYK without my involvement. I need some much needed time to heal 😞. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 04:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kevmin and BhagyaMani: Better? Green flag, yellow flag or red flag? Just let me know. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 20:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alt2 approved, with AGF on paywalled sourcing. no article or policy issues identified now and article appears stable. ook cited and sourced to references 11 and 44 respectively for first and second sections. Looks good to go.--Kevmin § 01:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kevmin: Not trying to bikeshed here, but wasn't the Alt2 part about "strongly associated with wetlands" found to be a component of the original concern over copyvio? The phrase "Fishing cats are strongly associated with wetlands" is present verbatim in the IUCN report. I was also thinking that "and preys foremost on fish" reads a little weird and might be replaced with something like "and has a diet which is about 75% fish" (substantiated by paragraph 2 of 'Behaviour and ecology') or "preys mostly on fish". Your guys' call since this has already been approved. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 06:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Fripp

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  • ... that Johnny Fripp was "a bundle of football-toting dynamite"?
Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 264 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article promoted to GA on 17 October and (just!) nominated within 7 days; article is well written and sources look to be reliable; I didn't pick up on any concerns over paraphrasing (note that the Earwig score is thrown off by proper nouns and attributed quotes); hook fact is simple and effective and checks out to source cited; QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 21:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rich Romer

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5x expanded by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Great work on the article! Both hooks are interesting and verified as being sourced in the article. ALT0 relies on this source to say he worked as an engineer. According to the About Us page for the East Greenbush Education Foundation, "The East Greenbush Education Foundation, Inc. is an audited 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose sole purpose is to raise funds to support student achievement. Founded in 1985 and located in East Greenbush, NY, the Foundation is governed by a volunteer Board of Directors." I think this is a marginally reliable source. If there are concerns that this source is insufficiently reliable, I recommend using ALT1 instead. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tyromancy

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  • Source: Eater: "There wasn’t any sort of central repository of tyromancy information; I had to go back into antique spell manuals, dream interpretation book transcripts, and more."
Culture: "Holes made from gas, like those found in Swiss cheese, could draw upon numerology, whereas the veins in blue cheese often formed images."
Created by Jonathan Deamer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Jonathan Deamer (talk) 09:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Waltiea Rolle

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  • ... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by a talent scout while walking home from school?
  • Reviewed:
Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Would it be quirkier to replace "talent scout" for Rutherford with "Olympic track and field medalist" i.e. different sport, cachet of Olympics?[21] For ALT2, this is a bit better source that she became the first instead of relying on one anticipating that she "will" be be the first. —Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which of the alts should I revise? Do I just edit them directly or do I add an ALT3? Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm OK with the ALT0 format, which I assume was also your preferred one? Typically, in the spirit of WP:TALK#REPLIED, it's best to just create a new ALT, to avoid anyone looking at the discussion getting confused.—Bagumba (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9: The new ALTs needs to have Rutherford's medal background mentioned and sourced in the WP page as well (WP:DYKHOOK).—Bagumba (talk) 12:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ref added to Rutherford. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9: Sorry if it wasn't clear. Everything in the hook must be mentioned in prose and sourced in the bolded link i.e. Rolle's page, not Rutherford's page (though you can improve that too, it's just not required for DYK). The focus is on the bolded target.—Bagumba (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 04:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 seems more interesting as it mentions Rutherford's background being in a different sport. If a backup is somehow needed, ALT2 also checked out.—Bagumba (talk) 05:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 18

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The rent strike in Independence, Missouri
The rent strike in Independence, Missouri

2024 Kansas City metropolitan area rent strike

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Moved to mainspace by LunaEclipse (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

💽 LunaEclipse 💽 ⚧ 【=◈︿◈=】 00:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new and long enough. Article is well-sourced, neutral, and only pings on Earwigs for some long proper titles. Hook is cited, short enough, and interesting. QPQ has been completed. Image is freely licensed, clear at a diminished size, and used in the article. Morgan695 (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Checheyigen

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  • Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 240–241
5x expanded by AirshipJungleman29 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy

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Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy
Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy
Created by Sir MemeGod (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 694 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Approving. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Panhandle Gap

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Trail crosses the gap in the center
Trail crosses the gap in the center
Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 253 past nominations.

(t · c) buidhe 04:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Beautiful photos here! It is new enough, long enough, the QPQ is good, the article is well-written and reliably sourced, and the photo is clear and attractive at this size. But I don't think there's anything unusual or interesting about this fact—that a hike is popular, long, and elevated is not that remarkable. I also tagged an issue with "Summerland" being referred to without introduction. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 19

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StoneToss

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  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by TarnishedPath (talk) and Alalch E. (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

TarnishedPathtalk 23:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I remember when this happened. I saw everything in real time; it was simulaneously sad and hilarious (I don't use Twitter that much anymore, I'm more active on Bluesky). Anyways, this is GTG, nice job! 💽 LunaEclipse 💽 ⚧ 【=◈︿◈=】 14:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lockheed Martin FB-22

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  • ... that a bomber version of the F-22 Raptor called the FB-22 was once considered by the U.S. Air Force in the mid-2000s?
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Steve7c8 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Steve7c8 (talk) 02:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

John Green (basketball)

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  • Source: "John Green, All American senior guard, was the team's high scorer with 559 points in 29 games, a 19.3 average." (The California Eagle) "At 6 feet 3, he started for the first of Wooden’s 12 NCAA Final Four teams." (Pioneer Press)
Created by Bagumba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 111 past nominations.

—Bagumba (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • 1. New enough - Green tickY Article created on the day of the nomination
  • 2. Long enough - Green tickY 4451 Readable prose size, not a stub
  • 3. External policy compliance - Green tickY. Well-sourced, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Spot checked sources 11, 19, 21, and 26 (11% of sources used) shows no copyvio or close paraphrasing
  • 4. Presentable - Green tickY No article improvement or citation needed tags.
  • 5. Sourced - Green tickY. Verified both sources provided, meets RS.
  • 6. Hook short enough - Green tickY Brief and to the point.
  • 7. Hook interesting - Green tickY
  • 8. Images - Green tickY - No image included for main page publication
  • 9. QPQ - Green tickY - Done.
  • 10. Other Green tickY - No problems.

Kaunas Carillon

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  • Source: 1) "Nuo 1940 08 01, iškilmingai nuleidus Lietuvos valstybinę vėliavą, varpais nebeskambinta" (English: From 1940 08 01, after the solemn lowering of the national flag of Lithuania, the bells were no longer rung; first source);
    2) "Trumpam varpai suskambo 1941 metų birželio 23-iąją, per Kauno radiofoną paskelbus, jog Raudonoji armija išvyta iš miesto" (English: The bells rang briefly on 23 June 1941, when the Kaunas radio station announced that the Red Army had been driven out of the city; second source);
    3) "Kariljonas vėl suskambo 1956 pradėjus koncertuoti (nuo 1957 reguliariai) kompozitoriams V. Kuprevičiui ir jo sūnui G. A. Kuprevičiui" (English: The carillon rang again in 1956 when the composers V. Kuprevičius and his son G. A. Kuprevičius started performing (since 1957 regularly); again first source).
Created by Pofka (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

-- Pofka (talk) 19:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I repeat the comment I've made elsewhere that "Nazi German" is redundant and doesn't make for good English; as an adjective, it is found almost exclusively in works by Eastern European authors. (t · c) buidhe 23:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Buidhe: Thanks for pointing this out. I have updated the DYK hook by removing word "Nazi" to harmonize it with article German occupation of Lithuania during World War II. -- Pofka (talk) 20:48, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Pofka put in a lot of work on this article translating Lithuanian-language sources. The article is sufficiently long and fact-based. At their request, I copyedited the article. This effort is worthy for a DYK. I'd also offer to copyedit the hook: (ALT1) "that the Kaunas Carillon stopped playing music for sixteen years (except for one day in 1941) due to the Soviet and German occupations of Lithuania?" I think this is a bit more naturally worded and not too detailed. Thrakkx (talk) 03:48, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thrakkx: Thanks for copyediting the article and for reviewing this DYK nomination. I agree that your suggested ALT1 version is better and is easier to read, thus this updated version should be preferred when adding a DYK hook about the Kaunas Carillon to the main page of Wikipedia. -- Pofka (talk) 18:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pofka: Approved ALT1 hook.

The Empire Brunei

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Atrium of The Empire Brunei hotel
Atrium of The Empire Brunei hotel
Moved to mainspace by Chipmunkdavis (talk), Pangalau (talk), and Azuru79 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

CMD (talk) 08:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shadia Abu Ghazaleh

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Improved to Good Article status by Grnrchst (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 42 past nominations.

Grnrchst (talk) 14:43, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: All three hooks were verified, but I prefer ALT1 as I believe it to be the most unique hook of the three. Yue🌙 19:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feelie

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Badge from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Badge from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 693 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Looks good to me. Expansion is fine (this has nothing in common with the earlier collection of unverified trivia), the first hook is verified, I don't see any plagiarism, paragraphs are sourced, the image is properly licensed, etc. I like the first hook best. Drmies (talk) 01:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qian Jin Bao

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January 22, 1926, issue of Qian Jin Bao
January 22, 1926, issue of Qian Jin Bao
  • Source: Alexander V. Pantsov, Steven I. Levine. Deng Xiaoping: A Revolutionary Life. Oxford University Press, 2015. pp. 34-35
Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 407 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 21:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough and long enough. Earwig is showing me 0%, which may be an error, but spotchecking I haven't found any issues. Image is sufficiently clear for what it is – one doesn't expect newspapers to show up well at 100px. Looks good to go!  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eternity in Flames

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Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 692 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Length, date, hook, QPQ, close paraphrase check ok. Article says pulled from circulation, not banned, but in this context this is a very narrow semantic difference, so ok. --Soman (talk) 21:54, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 20

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Kere (famine)

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Created by Zanahary (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:35, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi @Zanahary: this article was a really interesting read. It is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, copyvio-free, presentable. Hook is short, interesting, and cited. I have made some minor edits, but I have a couple more major things I want to address before I give it a good to go:
First, with regards to the table of Kere events, in the lede it says that there has not been a year without a Kere event in several decades, but the table would imply that there are some years (e.g. 2018-2019) where there have not been Keres. Is this only a table of notable (or named) Keres? Secondly, since there is already an article on the 2021–2022 famine, is it possible to make the two sections on it in the article briefer? The current state of these sections is that they list a lot of individual reports, without much summarizing. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:13, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Tenpop421! Thanks for the review. Weirdly, the discrepancy you note comes from the same source. I'll just remove the claim about them happening annually lately, absent further clarity. I'll cut down the 2021–2022 section, too. Thanks again! ꧁Zanahary꧂ 01:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dog

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Various types of dogs.
Various types of dogs.
Improved to Good Article status by Wolverine XI (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

All the better for views if you ask me, but technically that hook would be about dog meat and thus it would fail WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE, so with regret I've struck it. ALT0 is available for review; might have a rummage for hooks myself. (Also, that image of 'a female dog nursing' is adorable.)--Launchballer 19:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doing a tick to make clear that this comment is not an objection, but just excerpts from the two sources verifying the hook fact. The earlier article says, "The researchers determined that dogs were probably domesticated from now-extinct wolves between 11,000 and 16,000 years ago — before humans began farming around 10,000 years ago."[22] and the more recent article pushes this timeline back further,[23] "Dogs were the first domesticated species and the only animal known to enter into a domestic relationship with people during the Pleistocene [...] dogs were domesticated in Siberia by 23,000 years ago, possibly while both people and wolves were isolated during the harsh climate of the Last Glacial Maximum. Dogs then accompanied the first people into the Americas and traveled with them as humans rapidly dispersed into the continent beginning 15,000 years ago [...] The earliest generally accepted dog dates to 15 ka (from the site of Bonn-Oberkassel, discussed below). However, claims for the existence of domestic dogs as early as 40 ka (22–28) have been made on the basis of morphological (22, 24–27), isotopic (22, 29), genetic (22, 28, 30), and contextual assessments (24, 31) of ancient canid remains. Yet, none of these potential domestication markers is fail-safe, owing to the fact that wolves and early domesticated dogs can be difficult to distinguish from each other." Rjjiii (talk) 00:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feelie (Brave New World)

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Created by Zxcvbnm (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 695 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 14:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 21

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Marcia Moore (actress)

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Created by Silver seren (talk), FloridaArmy (talk), and THEFlint Shrubwood (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 132 past nominations.

SilverserenC 18:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Very interesting! Good to go. Skyshiftertalk 20:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xu Xinfu

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  • ... that Xu Xinfu adapted the fictional Chinese-American detective Charlie Chan for Chinese audiences?
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 696 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is interesting and well-sourced, but I highly recommend the promoter change the hook to "... that Xu Xinfu adapted the fictional Chinese-American detective Charlie Chan for Chinese audiences?" I think most readers will be unfamiliar with the character, as I myself was until I read both articles. Yue🌙 04:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Georgina Sutton

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  • ... that Georgina Sutton was the first woman to be appointed as chief pilot of an Australian airline?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: 2024 Talerddig train collision
Created by MaxnaCarta (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

— MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Just waiting on the QPQ for final approval @MaxnaCarta: this is a straightforward hook, that checks out. The article is new enough and long enough, it is well sourced (reliable and accessible) and there are no copy-vio issues. The hook is referenced in the lede and the body of the page, and is the obvious story-line to use. Chaiten1 (talk) 07:37, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MaxnaCarta: Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible: DYK rules now require a QPQ at the time of the nomination, and a nomination can be rejected without further warning if a QPQ is not provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5:, my fault, sorry for the delay. Done now. Thank you. Ditto @Chaiten1:. — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Gust of Wind (Renoir)

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Created by Viriditas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 27 past nominations.

Viriditas (talk) 01:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Approve, a well-done and well-sourced page. My only concern is that the image is too small and should be enlarged in order to highlight both the page topic and a good example of Renoir's unique style. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

240 Centre Street

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New York City's former police headquarters at 240 Centre Street
New York City's former police headquarters at 240 Centre Street
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 681 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 14:52, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article 5x expanded starting on 19 October. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks good. Thriley (talk) 19:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 22

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Al-Shaykh Badr

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5x expanded by Al Ameer son (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 177 past nominations.

Al Ameer (talk) 17:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Al Ameer, review follows: article more than 5x expanded from 22 October; largely from a single, reliable source; other sources used look to be reliable also; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in article and checks out (as far as I can tell from my rudimentary French) to the source (albeit the online preview gave me a different page number, I am assuming you may be working from a printed copy?); happy to AGF there are no copyright violations (principal source is in French, others offline, Earwig check is fine); a QPQ has been carried out. My only query is with the "Climate" section, I wasn't sure how I verify the information in it, a search for "Al-Shaykh Badr" at the cited source of "Climate-data.org" doesn't yield anything - Dumelow (talk) 07:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine - Dumelow (talk) 19:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shunten

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  • Source: Smits, Gregory (2019). Maritime Ryukyu, 1050–1650. Honolulu: University of Hawai'i Press. 154–155
  • Source: Itō, Yūshi (2011). "The Legend of Minamoto no Tametomo: Controversy and Connections Between Ryūkyūan/Okinawan and Japanese Histories". In Edmond, Jacob; Johnson, Henry; Leckie, Jacqueline (eds.). Recentering Asia: Histories, Encounters, Identities. Leiden: Brill. doi:10.1163/9789004212619_006. ISBN 9781906876258., pp. 90–100.
Improved to Good Article status by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 88 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:57, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Generalissima, this article was an interesting read! Article long enough, well-sourced, copyvio-free, and presentable. This nomination is just within the 7 day deadline. QPQ done. Hook is interesting and sourced (offline accepted in good faith).
I can't help but think a hook along the lines of: "... that the myth of Shunten, the legendary first king of Chūzan, was used to justify the 1872 annexation of Okinawa?" would be more interesting, if just because it shows how late this myth still had currency (I also suspect front page readers would be more familiar with Okinawa than Ryukyu). I'll leave it up to your judgement if you want to include such an alt. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 18:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tenpop421: That's actually a good point. I'll use the recommended alt hook, with Itō, Yūshi (2011). "The Legend of Minamoto no Tametomo: Controversy and Connections Between Ryūkyūan/Okinawan and Japanese Histories". In Edmond, Jacob; Johnson, Henry; Leckie, Jacqueline (eds.). Recentering Asia: Histories, Encounters, Identities. Leiden: Brill. doi:10.1163/9789004212619_006. ISBN 9781906876258., pp. 90–100 as the source. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice, I've added the alt. Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oun Yao-ling

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  • ... that the weightlifter Oun Yao-ling was asked to compete in the South African Games, but the opportunity was swiftly rescinded once the organisers found out he was Chinese?
  • Source: Blutstein, Harry (2021). Games of Discontent: Protests, Boycotts, and Politics at the 1968 Mexico Olympics. Montreal: McGill–Queen's University Press. pp. 34–35. ISBN 978-0-2280-0675-6. Retrieved 2024-10-26 – via Google Books.

    This source verifies that Oun Yao-ling is also known as Günter Wu. The book notes: "To assure the white population that South Africa was held in high regard by the sporting world, it was important to have a large contingent of international competitors at the Bloemfontein Games. To this end, nearly 100 invitations went out to foreign athletes; white athletes. There were, however, some embarrassing slip-ups. Inadvertently, the organisers invited German weightlifter Günter Wu, who was Chinese, and New Zealand runner Kevin Ross, who was Maori. Both invitations were promptly withdrawn when this unforgivable mistake was discovered. In the months running up to the South Africa Games, Brutus lobbied athletes, asking them not to participate."

  • ALT1: ... that the weightlifter Oun Yao-ling was asked to compete in the South African Games, but the opportunity was swiftly rescinded once the organisers found out he was Chinese, not white? Source: Same source as the first hook.
  • ALT2: ... that Oun Yao-ling, who did not speak Mandarin Chinese, represented Taiwan at the 1964 Summer Olympics? Source: Ji, Cheng-jin 吉承進 (1964-10-12). "項耀林 惡補國語 拜師鐵人" [Oun Yao-ling Intensifies Mandarin Studies with the Help of a Mentor]. United Daily News (in Chinese). p. 3.

    This source verifies that he competed at the 1964 Summer Olympics. The article notes: "不會說國語的我國舉重選手項耀林，最近幾天困擾極了，因為每當隊伍集合時，他無法聽懂口令，常常有不知適從的感覺。"

    From Google Translate: "Oun Yao-ling, a Taiwanese weightlifter who cannot speak Mandarin, has been extremely troubled in recent days because whenever the team gathers, he cannot understand the commands and often feels at a loss."

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rich Romer
Created by Cunard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 87 past nominations.

Cunard (talk) 07:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Recently expanded, long enough, solidly written. Verified by source, QPQ done. The article is good. I think ALT0 is the best, but ALT1 is perhaps clearer on why it was rescinded so maybe we should go with that. ALT2 is also very interesting, but I think slightly less than the first 2.
Unrelated to DYK eligibility, but does any source say what language he spoke if it wasn't Mandarin? I am curious. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:31, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the review, PARAKANYAA (talk · contribs)! I didn't find any sources that directly confirmed what language he spoke. But he was born in Germany in 1940, his mother is from Germany, he studied at the German university Stuttgart Technology University of Applied Sciences, and he was living in Germany in 1963 right before the 1964 Summer Olympics. So it is high likely that his native language is German. Cunard (talk) 09:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Talerddig train collision

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Created by Mjroots (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

JuniperChill (talk) 20:55, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The merge issue will need to be resolved before this can be approved — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:09, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MaxnaCarta: that merge template is about history merging, not the one you would expect. JuniperChill (talk) 12:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JuniperChill: ah, I see. Is that template not a barrier to passing? I wouldn’t have thought it’s okay for an article to appear on the main page while it has some sort of call to action template. Also, is your username referencing the Juniper Inn from Hotel Hell? — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:25, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MaxnaCarta: The reason why a history merge is being presented is because this page was (possibly) cut and pasted from Draft:Talerddig rail accident. And that will be accepted/declined well before it hits the main page anyway. And with regards where my username came from, I got it from my favourite plant. I also wanted to add a little chill to my username. I never watched Hotel Hell or even heard of it, but heard Gordon Ramsay. JuniperChill (talk) 16:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JuniperChill: Consider the antepenultimate version of the draft, i.e. that before it was blanked and redirected, and also consider the version of the article as it stood at the same moment. There are significant differences; it is clear to me that there was no cut-and-paste. They were started independently, both in mainspace, although the one that is presently in draftspace was moved there by Discospinster (talk · contribs). I don't think that a histmerge would be useful. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:35, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redrose64 is correct. There was no cut and paste involved, therefore there is no need for a history merge. I've removed the template. Mjroots (talk) 09:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's good to hear. Now we'll have to wait for the original reviewer to approve this. I would also note (as seen from my comment at the top) that I also created my own version of this crash, but since I realised one was already made, I redirected that. That's why I normally do DYKs on articles I created and don't really do drive-by nominations (in fact, most DYKs are self-noms). JuniperChill (talk) 11:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We are all good to go, merge issue resolved — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:01, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MaxnaCarta: You're using the wrong checkmark for DYK. Its supposed to be {{subst:DYKtick}} JuniperChill (talk) 22:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gilbert Wilson (geologist)

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  • ... that geologist Gilbert Wilson declared his favourite expression was “I’m in love” in his McGill yearbook in 1924?
  • ALT1: ... that when geologist Gilbert Wilson went to school he was the fifth Wilson, so was known as "Quintus"? Source: Source – offline obituary '[he] went to school in Windermere where as one of five attending Wilsons he was known as Quintus' - source (ref 1) JGR and JC (1986). "Dr G Wilson (1899–1986)". Annual Report, Geological Society of London: 34–35
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Georgina Sutton
Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 20:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Thank you - fixed! Chaiten1 (talk) 17:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thanks for the adjustment. The article was created on 22 October 2024. It has a readable prose size of 6461 characters. Every paragraph is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyvios. QPQ was done. The language of the article is neutral.

I'm not sure that the article should include the sentence with the quotes from the McGill yearbook since this sounds to me like trivia. Do comparable articles do that or do secondary sources discuss them? If the sentence is removed then we could not use the ALT0, which would leave us with ALT1. ALT1 is cited and interesting. I would make a slight grammatical adjustment:

ALT1a: ... that when geologist Gilbert Wilson went to school he was the fifth Wilson, so he was known as "Quintus"?

I think it would be better to move the section "Family" before the section "Awards and recognition" but this is optional. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you; good point about trivia, I will edit this and am very happy with ALT1a Chaiten1 (talk) 17:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC) All fixed now! Phlsph7 Chaiten1 (talk) 18:19, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, approve ALT1a. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Helliwells Ltd

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1939 advertisement
1939 advertisement
  • ... that British aerospace engineering firm Helliwells Ltd (advertisement pictured) began as a maker of fireplace accessories?
  • ALT1: ... that Helliwells Ltd (advertisement pictured) produced a motor scooter that was used by British police? Source: "Swallow 'Gadabout' motor scooter, 1948. The Swallow Coachbuilding Co. Ltd was bought in 1945 by the Helliwell Group, an aircraft servicing and repair company. They started to produce the Gadabout in 1946 ... was confirmed successful when adopted by public bodies including the Staffordshire Constabulary." from "Gadabout Motor Scooter". Science Museum Group Collection. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James Smart (police officer)
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 892 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 20:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article moved to mainspace on same date as nomination. No issues with article writing, earwig & citations, and it is long enough. AGF on both hook sources. QPQ done. Good to go, nice work! B3251(talk) 03:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Smith (moneylender)

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Smith depicted on his memorial
Smith depicted on his memorial
  • ... that a charity founded by Henry Smith (memorial pictured) in 1628 now has assets of over £1 billion?
  • Source: "The Charity was founded in 1628 by Henry Smith, a businessman working in the City of London." from: "About Us". Henry Smith Charity. Retrieved 16 October 2024. and: net assets listed at Charity Commission for 2023 are £1.26 billion see: "The Henry Smith Charity - Charity 230102". Charity Commission. Retrieved 16 October 2024.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 891 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 11:54, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Fascinating article. Long enough, well-written and recent enough. Hook is very nice and properly supported by an inline citation to a reliable source. QPQ is done and the image has the correct license tag. Should be good to go. Yakikaki (talk) 20:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abortion in Equatorial Guinea

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  • Source: [24] The 10 other countries that require spousal consent are Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Equatorial Guinea, the United Arab Emirates, Taiwan, Indonesia, Turkey and Morocco, according to the Center for Reproductive Rights.
Moved to mainspace by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 20:09, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new enough, having been moved to mainspace on October 22. QPQ done. No image. Hook is very interesting and inline cited to the Washington Post, which is RS. Article is long enough and NPOV. Earwig indicates low likelihood of copyvio. Looks good! Chetsford (talk) 02:52, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sack of Delhi (1757)

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  • ... that during the Afghan sacking of Delhi, over 30 to as high as 300 million rupees worth of goods were plundered?
  • Source: Ahmad Shah Durrani: Father of Modern Afghanistan - Gandha Singh pg. 186
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Noorullah21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Noorullah (talk) 16:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Can we say something like "between 30 and 300 million rupees"? The grammar is a little weird here.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Let's clean up the hook, but otherwise good to go. Congrats on the GA.. ThaesOfereode (talk) 01:31, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ThaesOfereode: So, something like this; "that during the Afghan sacking of Delhi, between 30 and 300 million rupees worth of goods were plundered?" Noorullah (talk) 01:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Noorullah21: Yep, that works for me. Approved. ThaesOfereode (talk) 02:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 23

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Rust Red Hills

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  • ... that Rust Red Hills is being sold to renovate student housing, a court-approved move that museum associations say violates the ethics of deaccessioning?
  • Source: Boucher, Brian (September 4, 2024). "A Court Approves Valparaiso University’s Controversial Plan to Sell Paintings From Brauer Museum Collection". Artnet. News. Quote: "The Brauer Museum of Art at Indiana's Valparaiso University has been at the center of controversy for a year and a half, as the school has moved to sell three valuable artworks from the museum’s collection to fund improvements to freshman dormitories. The paintings, by Frederic Edwin Church, Childe Hassam, and Georgia O'Keeffe, have been valued in the area of $20 million. Now, the Porter County Superior Court has approved of the university's plan, according to a court order dated August 29...The plan to sell the works was met with an outcry from many in the university community, a lawsuit filed by namesake founding director Richard Brauer, and condemnation of the sale in a joint statement issued by the leadership of the Association of Art Museum Directors, the American Alliance of Museums, the Association of Academic Museums and Galleries, and the Association of Art Museum Curators. "This remains a fundamental ethical principle of the museum field, one which all institutions are obligated to respect: in no event shall funds from deaccessioned works be used for anything other than support for a museum's collections, either through acquisitions or the direct care of works of art".
  • Another source: Cui, Liya (September 4, 2024). "Indiana Court Allows Valparaiso University to Sell O'Keeffe Painting". Reuters. Quote: "An Indiana judge has ruled that Valparaiso University can sell a Georgia O'Keeffe and two other paintings...The private Lutheran university in Indiana last February announced its intention to sell the most valuable paintings in its Brauer Museum of Art collection, estimated to be worth $20 million in total, to fund a dormitory renovation...When a museum sells its artwork to raise funds, the money is typically used to acquire, store or preserve other works, according to guidelines established by the Association of Art Museum Directors."
  • Older source that was published before the court approval: "Richardson, Kalia (March 10, 2023). "Its Georgia O'Keeffe Is Worth Millions. And Its Dorms Need Updating". The New York Times. Quote: "Schools typically court controversy when they announce they will sell artworks to raise funds, an act known as deaccessioning. Several sales have resulted in sanctions from art associations....Valparaiso's desire to pay for work on the dorms with proceeds from the paintings has received pushback...Valparaiso's announcement alarmed art associations because of a long-held principle among museums: Revenue from deaccessioned pieces should be used to acquire new works, not for operating costs...Four art associations issued a joint statement condemning Valparaiso and the idea that the works in the Brauer's collection were "disposable financial assets." One of the groups, the Association of Art Museum Directors, also told the museum’s director, Jonathan Canning, that if the university proceeded with the sale, it would consider censuring and sanctioning the museum."
Created by Viriditas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 28 past nominations.

Viriditas (talk) 23:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • the article certainly new enough, long enough, and very well-sourced. Nominator has also reviewed enough. The hook is short enough, and touches on an interesting and ongoing issue. Cardofk (talk) 17:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Smith (canoeing)

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Carmen, canoe designed by Smith in 1882
Carmen, canoe designed by Smith in 1882
Created by Yakikaki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 142 past nominations.

Yakikaki (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Yan Ruisheng

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Advertisement for Yan Ruisheng
Advertisement for Yan Ruisheng
  • ... that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured) was China's first full-length feature film?
  • Source: Xiao, Zhiwei (1998). "Chinese Cinema". In Zhang, Yingjin; Xiao, Zhiwei (eds.). Encyclopedia of Chinese Film. New York, London: Routledge. pp. 3–30. ISBN 978-0-415-15168-9., among many others
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 697 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article looks good. Nice work. A minor point: @Crisco 1492: Is it appropriate to say in the hook that it was China's first full-length feature film when the article seems to be a little less certain (Yan Ruisheng is commonly identified as the first Chinese-made full-length feature film / has been considered China's first full-length feature film)? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Castle Knob

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Castle Knob
Castle Knob
  • ... that the mediaeval Castle Knob in Derbyshire, England, was the site of a Cold War nuclear monitoring station?
  • Source: Date of foundation is unknown but likely 12th century and certainly before 14th century: "there is no documentary record for this site before the fourteenth century, and the date of construction is unknown. Nevertheless, from the present remains it appears to have been a motte-and-bailey construction and would be consistent with those constructed during King Stephen's reign" from: Boston, Hannah (2024). Lordship and Locality in the Long Twelfth Century. Boydell & Brewer. p. 82. ISBN 978-1-78327-783-4. and " Excluded from the scheduling are all perimeter fencing, the sheds and stable within the area of the north bailey, and the underground MOD installation in the central bailey although the ground beneath all these features except the MOD installation is included." from: "Castle Gresley motte and bailey castle, Castle Gresley - 1011209". Historic England. Retrieved 18 October 2024.; the plaque on the site makes it clear this is a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 893 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 13:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 15:34, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 24

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Ontology

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Improved to Good Article status by Phlsph7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

Phlsph7 (talk) 16:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to me! I prefer ALT0 or ALT2. Nice work on getting it to GA, Phlsph7! paul2520 💬 17:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Soviet atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II

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Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 531 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:15, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks great! Very good work, thank you. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1939 Liechtenstein general election

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Created by TheBritinator (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

TheBritinator (talk) 15:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Always nice to see small countries like Liechtenstein get decent coverage. Article looks good as a newly-promoted GA. AGF on the hook source. Appears good to go! BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 25

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Boxheim Documents

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SPD poster for the 1932 Prussian state election using these documents to attack the NSDAP
SPD poster for the 1932 Prussian state election using these documents to attack the NSDAP
  • Source: Press and Politics in the Weimar Republic. OUP Oxford. pp. 186–187.
Created by Jean Po (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Jean Po (talk) 15:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article was made on the 25th, so is new enough. At many times the required length, it is long enough. The article reads neutrally and properly uses in-line citations. The copyvio detector finds nothing outside of explicit quotes in the article. Both hooks are interesting and cited in-line and utilized properly from the listed sources. The suggested image is in the public domain and visibly identifiable. No QPQ needs to be done. Looks good to go! SilverserenC 01:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lily Golden

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 61 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 18:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: This does have promise. It's new, of sufficient length, neutral, and well-sourced without plagiarism. However, I do feel the hooks could be rewritten to be clearer and more concise to be more interesting to a broad audience. Lazman321 (talk) 21:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lazman321: I added what should be enough clarity, but this is the clearest and shortest I could do without losing their hookiness.
Hope that help, ミラP@Miraclepine 23:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I'm in favor of ALT0B and ALT1C. Lazman321 (talk) 01:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Light Vessel 95

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Light Vessel 95
Light Vessel 95
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 894 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 20:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks great, both hooks equally interesting in my book. ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 21:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Symonds St Public Conveniences and Former Tram Shelter

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Conveniences and Shelter after restoration in 2022
Conveniences and Shelter after restoration in 2022
  • Reviewed:
Moved to mainspace by TarnishedPath (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

TarnishedPathtalk 14:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Herbert Smith (mineralogist)

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  • ... that in 1927, museum administrator Herbert Smith hired a special train so that civil servants could watch a total solar eclipse in North Yorkshire?
  • Source: [25] ‘he arranged a special train to take members (of the society of civil servants) and other civil servants to Richmond, Yorkshire, to view the total eclipse of the sun in 1927’
  • ALT1: ... that gemmologist Herbert Smith had two minerals and a wallaby named after him? Source: Sources – herbertsmithite [26] 'named for GF Herbert Smith' smithite - [27] 'named for G F Herbert Smith] Herbert’s rock-wallaby (Petrogale herberti Thomas, O. 1926. On various animals obtained during Capt. Wilkin's expedition in Australia. Annals and Magazine of Natural History 9 17: 627 [June 1926]) ‘named in honour of G.F. Herbert Smith Assistant Secretary of the Museum’ (offline reference)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/E-Defense
5x expanded by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 21:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Chaiten1, review follows: article more than 5x expanded from 25 October and is well written; sources used are good with inline citations throughout; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing; hooks are interesting and largely check out to sources cited (I don't have access to the wallaby one but it is verifiable elsewhere eg here, the national archives link isn't working for me at the moment but I have supplemented it in the article with the Nature ref you've provided here); a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me. This is a solid traditional encyclopaedia article, really nice to see - Dumelow (talk) 08:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel Marseilles

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The Hotel Marseilles
The Hotel Marseilles
Created by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 682 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 15:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting building and history, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Before going for GA perhaps check for repetitions (the building, also). The image is licensed and a great illustration! None of the hooks is impossible. I prefer ALT2, but I think the "later" serves little purpose ;) - The "private rooms" of the first two are said by one writer to be for "some", - that's a bit too weak for my taste. I think "Holocaust" will create more interest than the specific people of ALT3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 26

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Alan Rosen (restaurant owner)

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Moved to mainspace by Schwede66 (talk) and 184.153.21.19 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 164 past nominations.

Schwede66 03:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 27

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Chiu Yuh-chuan

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  • ... that future Olympic weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan received a job offer in marketing after media coverage about his difficulty securing employment?
  • Source: "舉重國手邱毓川失業 北市一公司願提供工作機會" [Weightlifting Champion Chiu Yuh-chuan Unemployed: A Company in Taipei Offers Job Opportunity]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1984-07-11. p. 10.

    The above source was published on 11 July 1984. Chiu Yuh-chuan competed in the 1984 Summer Olympics, which took place between 28 July and 12 August 1984. The article notes:

    屏東縣唯一入選一九八四年奧運國家代表隊的舉重國手邱毓川，五次打破全國紀錄獲頒多面中正體育獎章，但自省立體專畢業迄今一年多卻苦於一職難求，經報導後，台北市慶宜股份有限公司深表同情，昨日特打長途電話到本報屏東採訪辦事處，表示願主動提供工作機會，解決邱毓川就職問題，熱忱感人。

    台北市慶宜貿易有限公司進口科長李聰哲在電話中表示，該公司經營多種商品貿易，為一頗具規模公司，因閱報獲知舉重國手邱毓川一職難求困境，基於為國家培育選手立場，願提供推廣企劃工作機會，除每月待遇一萬八千元左右外，并有業績獎金制度，只要邱毓川願意屈就，該公司竭誠歡迎。

    From Google Translate:

    Chiu Yuh-chuan, the only national weightlifter from Pingtung County to be selected for the 1984 Olympics national team, broke national records five times and was awarded multiple Chiang Kai-shek Sports Medals. However, it has been more than a year since he graduated from the provincial three-dimensional college and he has been struggling to find a job. After reports, Taipei City Qingyi Co., Ltd. expresses its deep sympathy. Yesterday, it made a long-distance call to the Pingtung office of this newspaper to interview and expressed its willingness to proactively provide job opportunities to solve Chiu Yuh-chuan's employment problem. The enthusiasm was touching.

    Li Congzhe, the import section chief of Taipei City Qingyi Trading Co., Ltd., said on the phone that the company is engaged in the trade of a variety of commodities and is a large-scale company. After reading the newspaper, he learned that the national weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan was in a difficult position. Based on the stance of cultivating athletes for the country, The company is willing to provide marketing and planning work opportunities. In addition to a monthly salary of about 18,000 yuan, there is also a performance bonus system. As long as Chiu Yuh-chuan is willing to give in, the company wholeheartedly welcomes him.

Created by Cunard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 86 past nominations.

Cunard (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Expanded day before DYK, from 138 to 5600, and article is up to snuff. All the sources but SR are offline so I'll AGF; that reminds me... Cunard, kudos to you for expanding a PRODed stub with sourcing that can't be reached easily. I recommend fixing the lede by blending in the info about his Olympic career so that it looks less like the cookie-cutter stub it originally was or adding an ALT1 showing that he was still looking for work post-Olympics even after the pre-Olympics job offer, but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:08, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amalric of Nesle

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Amalric divorces Agnes
Amalric divorces Agnes
  • ... that Patriarch Amalric was snubbed at the royal court because of his role in a royal divorce (pictured)?
  • Source: Hamilton (1980) p. 76
5x expanded by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 184 past nominations.

Surtsicna (talk) 22:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Surtsicna, review follows: article well in excess of 5x expanded from 27 October; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable offline sources; happy to AGF there are no copyright violations from these sources, the Earwig check is fine; hooks check out to the source cited (from Google Preview at least), for ALT0 I have amended "divorce" to "annulment of a royal marriage" as there is a difference; a QPQ has been carried out. Image needs a US PD copyright tag but is undoubtedly in the public domain, if you can address this and check you are happy with the amendment to ALT0 I should be able to approve - Dumelow (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tag added! I am not quite happy with the amendment, Dumelow, because it does not flow or catch attention nearly as well as "royal divorce"; and while divorce and annulment are different things in modern law, in the Middle Ages the annulment was the divorce, and indeed historians of the Middle Ages use the terms interchangeably, "divorce" even more commonly. See the source for this hook, for example. Surtsicna (talk) 18:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Surtsicna. Fair enough, thanks for the explanation. I have returned ALT0 to its original wording and am happy to leave the final decision up to the promoter - Dumelow (talk) 19:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edmonds (brand)

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Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 52 past nominations.

―Panamitsu (talk) 23:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Panamitsu, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 27 October and exceeds minimum length; sources used look to be reliable for the content cited and inline citations are used throughout; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing in a spot check; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to source cited; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 08:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zhou Houkun

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Zhou in 1914
Zhou in 1914
  • ... that Zhou Houkun (pictured) wrote a thesis on the use of bamboo to reinforce concrete?
Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 00:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

The Crystal (tabloid)

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  • ... that The Crystal was one of few publications in early 20th-century China to regularly cover same-sex intimacy?
  • Source: Kang, Wenqing (2006). Male Same-Sex Relations in China, 1900–1950 (PhD thesis). University of California, Santa Cruz. p. 169. ProQuest 305350088. "In China during the first half of the twentieth century, many newspapers circulated in big cities, but only Crystal in Shanghai and Heavenly Wind in Tianjin regularly had discussions and stories about same-sex relations. "
  • ALT1: ... that The Crystal contained regular coverage of Shanghai's courtesans? Source: Hershatter, Gail (1999). Dangerous Pleasures: Prostitution and Modernity in Twentieth-Century Shanghai. Berkeley: University of California Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-520-20439-3. "Perhaps the most famous of the tabloids was Crystal (in Chinese, jingbao), published every three days beginning in 1919 for more than two decades. Crystal overlapped with the guidebooks in content, but devoted a great deal of column space to tracking relationships between courtesans and the city’s elite, as well as personality quirks and quarrels among courtesans, business successes or reversals, reminiscences about famous courtesans of earlier times, and lists of courtesan-house names and phone numbers."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tore Skeie
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 699 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: On good faith. As this contains sources not accessible by internet. 184.153.21.19 (talk) 02:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 28

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Trilobite Wilderness

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Sign welcoming visitors to the area
Sign welcoming visitors to the area
Created by Blervis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Blervis (talk) 04:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • This is a newly created article, which is well referenced, long enough and passes copyvio. The hooks check out; ALT0 is intriguing, to the point and validated by the source (AMNH). QPQ is not required. The image is appropriate and has the correct permissions. This is a nice self-contained page, and I shall add it my bucket list of places to visit! Chaiten1 (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KEXC

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 717 past nominations.

Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Great work!! Thriley (talk) 20:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nayib Bukele

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Nayib Bukele in 2019
Nayib Bukele in 2019
Improved to Good Article status by PizzaKing13 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 09:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Wu Tsai-fu

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  • ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu was unable to generate urine for a drug test so drank six huge glasses of beer to help him urinate?
  • Source: "世界杯舉重賽花絮 吳再富灌酒逼尿 大醉一場" [Highlights from the Weightlifting World Cup: Wu Tsai-fu Forced to Drink Beer to Urinate, Ends Up Drunk]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1991-10-05. p. 2.

    The article notes:

    驗尿也會酒醉？信不信由你，這次世界杯，只要成績還可以，尤其是男選手，一達到明年巴塞隆納奧運選拔標準，鐵定被「點名」接受禁藥測試，採取的方法就是「驗尿」。

    中華隊第4級選手吳再富，出賽當天挺舉未完，就被通知驗尿，不知是緊張？還是排汗旺盛，怎麼尿也尿不出來，無法交差。

    最後逼得沒辦法，只有強灌啤酒，向來不喝酒的吳再富這下可吃足了苦頭，在連續喝下6大杯後才排尿，大功告成之餘，他人也醉了，必須勞動隊友攙扶，才能回到選手村。

    From a translation:

    Can you be drunk during a urine test? Believe it or not, at this World Cup, as long as the performance is acceptable—especially for male athletes—if they meet the qualification standards for next year’s Barcelona Olympics, they are guaranteed to be "called in" for drug testing, which involves urine tests.

    On the day of the competition, Wu Tsai-fu, a Level 4 athlete from the Chinese team, was notified to take a urine test even before finishing his lifts. Whether it was nerves or excessive sweating, he found himself unable to produce any urine.

    In the end, with no other options, he had to resort to drinking beer. Not typically a drinker, Wu suffered significantly, and after downing six large glasses, he finally managed to urinate. However, he ended up drunk and had to rely on teammates to help him back to the athletes' village.

  • ALT1: ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu drank six huge glasses of beer to help himself urinate for a drug test? Source: Same as the first hook.
  • ALT2: ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu set nearly 20 national records? Source: He, Chang-fa 何長發 (1997-07-14). "大雞慢啼 吳再富揚州償宿願" [Late Bloomer: Wu Tsai-fu Fulfills His Dream in Yangzhou]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). p. 2.

    The article notes: "吳再富十四歲首次參加舉重賽以來，先後打破全國紀錄將近二十次，但在亞洲大賽奪牌這還是第一次，算是「大雞慢啼」的老選手。"

    From a translation: "Wu Tsai-fu has broken national records nearly twenty times since he first participated in a weightlifting competition at the age of fourteen, but this is the first time he has won a medal in an Asian competition, and he can be regarded as a veteran player of "Late Bloomer"."

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zhou Houkun
5x expanded by Cunard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 85 past nominations.

Cunard (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Page was 5x expanded recently enough, is long enough, the hook is interesting and quite funny, and QPQ has been done. I think that ALT1 is preferable because it's more concise. I'm going to AGF on the Chinese sourcing. Overall, seems good! Di (they-them) (talk) 23:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 29

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Miracle in Motown

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Improved to Good Article status by Gonzo fan2007 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 48 past nominations.

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Overall, hook and article meet all criteria for DYK, no reason not to approve. JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St Francis of Assisi Church, Notting Hill

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Created by Cardofk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Cardofk (talk) 17:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks great! Very fun hook. Great article, thank you for writing it! ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 21:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 30

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Piri Reis

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  • ... that there was limited appreciation for Piri Reis' cartography during his own life?
    • Source: Soucek, Svat (2013). "His uniqueness among cartographers and hydrographers of the Renaissance". Cartes & Géomatique. No. 216. pp. 135–144. Arrested by the Ottoman governor of Egypt, Piri Reis was executed in 1553 in compliance with an order issued from the imperial headquarters. The sultan probably never recalled – if in fact he ever noticed it – that the aged mariner had at the time of his enthronement dedicated a book called Kitabı Bahriye to him, and that still earlier he had made a strange map whose mutilated remains lay forgotten in the library of Topkapı Palace. [...] Piri Reis and his work occupy a special place in the framework of the exhibition "L'Age d'or des cartes marines: Quand l'Europe découvrait le monde". They show that although the Ottoman Empire had the potential to participate in the discoveries, its ruling elite spurned the attempt to blaze a trail in this direction made by a representative of a marginal group whose other members too ran into dead ends. [...] Piri Reis ran into a dead end as a cartographer [...]
    • ALT1: ... that Piri Reis transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
    • ALT2: ... that Piri Reis advocated for and took part in Suleiman the Magnificent's 1522 Siege of Rhodes?
      • Source: Soucek, Svatopluk (2004). "Navals Aspects of the Ottoman Conquests of Rhodes, Cyprus and Crete". Studia Islamica (98/99): 222. ISSN 0585-5292. JSTOR 20059216. 6. It was one of these gazi-corsairs, Kemal Reis, who suggested repeatedly to Beyazit II that he embark on conquests of potential bases on Rhodes and the Peloponnese, and offered expert advice on how to do it. This was recorded by Kemal Reis's nephew Piri Reis in his Kitab-i bahriye, a book of sailing directions for the Mediterranean compiled in two versions, the first in 1520 and the second in 1526. Advice on how to conquer Rhodes is included, understandably, only in the first version.
      • İnan, Afet; Yolaç, Leman (trans.) (1954). The Oldest Map of America, Drawn by Piri Reis. Ankara: Türk Tarih Kurumu Basimevi. p. 14. OCLC 2435662. Piri's taking part in the Turkish fleet going to the campaign on Rhodes in 1523 is to be regarded as only natural.
      • Source: The context in the end-of-paragraph source makes the above more clear → Isom-Verhaaren, Christine (2022). The Sultan's fleet: seafarers of the Ottoman empire (First published ed.). London New York Oxford New Delhi Sydney: I.B. Tauris. p. 101. ISBN 978-0-7556-4173-4. Also, Kemal Reis or, in actuality, Piri Reis offered this advice to the sultan clearly noting that any plans would be contingent on the sultan's approval. No plan of conquest would be followed unless the sultan was convinced of its feasibility or benefit to the empire. Kemal or Piri also advised against allowing some individuals to consider themselves too important to be required to bring a bag of dirt to help construct a fortress on Kumburnu. Kemal and/or Piri warned against the pretensions of the elite, who considered themselves superior to the men who would be recruited to implement this plan. The conflict between the administrative elite and seafarers echoes throughout this advice.
    • ALT3: ... that Piri Reis did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Albright
    • Comment: There are some photos of sculptures of Piri Reis (like File:Piri reis.jpg) but so far as I know, no likeness was made during his lifetime. ALT3 summarizes the "Legacy" section, but this may be stretching things too much.
Improved to Good Article status by Rjjiii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Rjjiii (talk) 06:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New GA, very well written and referenced article. Did some minor tweaks, but otherwise it looks fine, QPQ has been done and I see nothing standing in the way of this going forward. From the hooks, ALT3 would be the most interesting, followed in my personal view by ALT1. Question to the nominator, Rjjiii, why not include an image of Piri in the DYK nomination? It would help to ensure greater visibility. Constantine ✍ 19:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Altan

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  • Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 168–169.
  • ALT1: ... that although the details of Al-Altan's 1246 execution were censored, an unintentional slip in a chronicle reveals who killed her? Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188.
  • ALT2: ... that although Eljigidei was originally rewarded for killing the Mongol princess Al-Altan, he was later hunted down and executed in revenge? Source: For his reward, Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188; for his death, pp. 220–221.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diaspora Revolt (2nd nomination)
Improved to Good Article status by AirshipJungleman29 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 10:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article is new enough (GA passed on 30 October 2024), is long enough (8743 characters of prose), has no copyright violations (per GA review), and is presentable (per GA review and readthrough). The hook is cited to a reliable offline source (accepted in good faith) and interesting. ALT1 is too complicated and ALT2 centers around her executor. QPQ was done. – Editør (talk) 11:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Valse in A minor (Chopin)

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Manuscript in the Morgan Library & Museum
Manuscript in the Morgan Library & Museum
  • ... that the discovery of a new waltz by Chopin (pictured) has been announced by The New York Times?
Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 66 past nominations.

Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Note to DYK reviewer: article was moved per talk page discussion ("Title"). I have tried my best to update the templates; there seems to be no need to move this DYK subpage itself. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 13:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • New enough, long enough and well-written. The hook is good and supported by an inline citation to a reliable source (in fact, the rediscovery has been reported quite widely in civilised media). QPQ has been made and copyright tag of the image is fine. There should be no problems. One thing to watch out for before promoting would perhaps be if there are any major updates to the article between the review and the posting, considering it is a bit of a developing story. Nice article, great piece for DYK. Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regulus (painting)

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Regulus
Regulus
  • ... that a man stabbed the painting Regulus (pictured) because he disliked the "misty state of the picture"?
Created by CitrusHemlock (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

CitrusHemlock 13:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi CitrusHemlock, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 30 October and far exceeds minimum length; it is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable (largely offline) sources; I didn't pick up on any issues with overly close paraphrasing; image is obviously magnificent and PD by virtue of age; no QPQ is required as nominator has only one prior DYK credit; ALT01 is stated in the article and checks out to source cited. I have struck ALT1 as the article states there is doubt that Regulus himself appears in the piece and ALT2 as the article only says that "Gilbert claims" the driving in of the paint was done. Happy to consider alternative hooks if you want to suggest any? - Dumelow (talk) 14:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dumelow: Thanks for reviewing the nom so quickly! I was a bit sloppy with the phrasing of the ALTs, the first could probably be rephraised to "...that the painting Regulus is based on a Roman general who was blinded by the sun?" and the second "...that J. M. W. Turner reportedly repainted Regulus by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas?" Regardless, the stabbing is the most compelling hook in my opinion, but any of them would work well. CitrusHemlock 17:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 31

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Mountain Landscape

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Created by Viriditas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

Viriditas (talk) 06:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hook is interesting, good to go. Sahaib (talk) 23:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Burrito Express

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Burrito Express sign in 2020
Burrito Express sign in 2020
  • ... that the founder of Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, styled himself as the "king of the flying burrito"?
Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: You are burying the lede. Why is Burrito Express called the "king of the flying burrito"? Because they used to run a mail order business that shipped frozen burritos across the U.S. That's your best and most interesting hook. But it's not here. Everything else checks out. Pass ALT0 as first choice, followed by ALT2. I do not support ALT3 as it breaches the bright line of contentiousness, and I don't support ALT1 because "threatened with closure" is too ambiguous and makes it seem like there's a negative component to it when it is just the nature of the business environment during COVID, not the quality of their food. Viriditas (talk) 04:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for reviewing. I'd appreciate it if you could be more specific as to what the shortcomings are so that I may remedy them. Are you asking me to contextualize ALT0 by mentioning the mail order business? I had thought about it, but was worried it would make the hook too long. If you feel this is necessary, however, please let me know and I will provide a modified hook. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sorry—I totally misread your review. You're right, it slipped my mind to make a hook based on their mail order business. Please give me until tomorrow morning (PDT) and I'll have a new hook ready for you! Thanks again. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WOGX

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 718 past nominations.

Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:44, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

6th National Eucharistic Congress (United States)

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Pilgrims outside of St. Cecilia Cathedral during the closing procession
Pilgrims outside of St. Cecilia Cathedral during the closing procession
Moved to mainspace by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has 4 past nominations.

User:Darth Stabro (talk) 00:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 1

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Peter Capaldi

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Capaldi at the 2019 GalaxyCon Richmond
Capaldi at the 2019 GalaxyCon Richmond
Improved to Good Article status by OlifanofmrTennant (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xinwen Bao

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  • ... that the Xinwen Bao was first published during the Lunar New Year to take advantage of its competitors being on hiatus?
  • Source: Tsai, Weipin (2014). "The First Casualty: Truth, Lies and Commercial Opportunism in Chinese Newspapers during the First Sino-Japanese War". Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain & Ireland. 24: 145–163. doi:10.1017/S1356186313000515. "To make sure Xinwenbao would get off to a good start, Cai deliberately choose 17 February 1892, the first day of the Chinese New Year, to launch the first issue, when both Shenbao and Hubao had a three-day break, and people were hungry for news. "
  • ALT1: ... that the Xinwen Bao was one of the most widely circulated newspapers in the Republic of China? Source: Hung, Chang-tai (1994). War and Popular Culture: Resistance in Modern China, 1937–1945. Berkeley: University of California Press. ISBN 978-0-520-35486-9. "In 1933 both Shen bao (founded in 1872) and Xinwen bao (founded in 1893) had a daily circulation of 150,000, the largest in the country; two Tianjin newspapers—Dagong bao (L'Impartial, founded in 1902) and Social Welfare (Yishi bao, founded in 1915), a Catholic-sponsored journal—trailed distantly at 35,000 each. The rise of Shen bao and Xinwen bao as the circulation giants of modern Chinese journalism reaffirmed the growing importance of Shanghai as the financial and cultural center of China."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Falcón state (2 of 2)
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 701 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article looks good. Nice work. A minor point: could you add a direct citation for the sentence The first edition was issued on 17 February 1893 – the Lunar New Year, a day when both the Hubao and its fellow major newspaper the Shen Bao were on hiatus – to comply with WP:DYK's requirement that The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear? Everything else looks good. Preference for the initial hook. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Light Vessel 93

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Light Vessel 93
Light Vessel 93
  • ... that Light Vessel 93 (pictured) was converted into a photography studio?
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 900 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 16:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Dumelow, nice work on this article. Do you still want to run this as a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, because that nomination has already been reviewed? Epicgenius (talk) 01:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Epicgenius, I am happy for them to run separately. Was just putting the option out there as there is usually a backlog of approved hooks - Dumelow (talk) 09:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All right, then. My previous approval is unchanged. Epicgenius (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)

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Created by Tokisaki Kurumi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 09:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hook is interesting and true,

I made a small copy edit but beyond that the content is fine, earwig has less then 10% overlap. QPQ not need congrats on your first DYK! Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant: Thanks! But it seems the DYK template not working well? ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 18:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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