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This page holds approved nominations that are waiting to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. Following DYK approval, nominations are processed and moved into a Prep area, and from there, prep sets are promoted to a queue, and then to the main page.

To create a new nomination or to see those that are yet to be approved, see Template talk:Did you know. For the discussion page see WT:DYK. Click on the link to go directly to the Special occasion holding area.

  If some of the nominations are not showing up properly at the bottom of the page, these alternative pages can be used to view a subset of the most recent nominations.
Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
September 18 1
September 19 1 1
September 20 1
September 22 1 1
September 23 1
September 24 1
September 26 2
September 27 2 1
September 28 2 1
October 2 1
October 3 1
October 4 2 1
October 5 3
October 6 1
October 7 3 2
October 8 2
October 9 5 2
October 10 3
October 11 3
October 12 2 1
October 13 9 2
October 14 1 1
October 15 6 1
October 16 6 3
October 17 4 2
October 18 7 1
October 19 9 6
October 20 6 4
October 21 2 2
October 22 16 7
October 23 9 4
October 24 5 2
October 25 8 6
October 26 6 2
October 27 7 4
October 28 9 4
October 29 7 6
October 30 10 5
October 31 12 5
November 1 12 7
November 2 9 5
November 3 18 10
November 4 8 4
November 5 13 5
November 6 6 2
November 7 9 3
November 8 7 1
November 9 8 2
November 10 12 2
November 11 5 2
November 12 4 1
November 13
November 14 1 1
November 15
Total 289 122
Last updated 02:12, 15 November 2024 UTC
Current time is 03:25, 15 November 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

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This page is for those nominations that have already been approved and are waiting to be promoted. If yours has been approved but has not yet been run on the main page, it should either be on this page or will soon be moved here, or already promoted to a Prep area or Queue ahead of an appearance on the main page.

If you wish to create a new nomination, please go to the Template talk:Did you know page; there are instructions there in a section similar to this one on how to nominate an article for DYK.

Frequently asked questions

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Backlogged?

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This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until someone promotes it to a preparation area. To alleviate this problem, if the approved page has more than 120 approved hooks, then sets will change twice per day (every 12 hours) instead of once per day (every 24 hours). When the backlog falls below 60 approved nominations set frequency returns to once a day.

Where is my hook?

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If you can't find the nomination you submitted to the nominations page, and it also isn't on this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is either in one of the prep areas, has been promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Instructions for other editors

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How to promote an accepted hook

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  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted original hook to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to the nominations page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from the nominations page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

Nominations

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Special occasion holding area

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Shortcut
Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section on the regular nominations page, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began, or it was listed as a Good Article; be sure to indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made between at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: [1]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: [2].
April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
Note for promoters: please be sure to add an "invisible" comment after a hook when you've placed it in prep, noting that it's a special occasion hook and including the date it is supposed to run. This should keep the hook from being moved after promotion, as sometimes happens to hooks when a queue needs a slot filled or a prep set needs to be made more balanced by swapping hooks between preps.

November 27 (birthday)

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Rei Nakashima

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  • ... that anime singer Rei Nakashima was named after Ray Charles? Source: [3] ("“怜”という名前も、レイ・チャールズ好きな母がつけたもので。")
    • ALT1: ... that Rei Nakashima thought she had failed her music audition, only to discover that she had won over a thousand other applicants? Source: 1. Same as above, ("私、落ちると思っていたんです（苦笑）。オリジナル曲のギター弾き語りの時には緊張しすぎてストロークがガタガタに……その次に「愛・おぼえていますか」（映画『超時空要塞マクロス 愛・おぼえていますか』主題歌）を歌ったときは、緊張が一気に消えて、極度のリラックス状態になって、歌詞を噛んでしまったんですね。そこで思わず笑ってしまって。サビ前になんとか挽回したのですが、「絶対に落ちたな」と。だからびっくりしすぎて「合格ってもしかして別の意味があるのかも……？」と調べたくらいで。")
      2. [4] (1,000通を超える応募者の中からグランプリには愛知県出身の中島 怜（なかしまれい）さん、特別賞には埼玉県出身の大渕野々花（おおぶちののか）さんが選ばれました。)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jurong East MRT station
    • Comment: I would like to request that this run on November 27th, which is her 20th birthday.
Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 110 past nominations.

Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:32, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Reviewing this per request at WT:DYK. Minor quibble - the source says over 1,000 applicants, whereas our article uses a thousand as a fixed number.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Crisco 1492: Addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article is new enough, long enough, and neutral. AGF on foreign-language sources for paraphrasing. No image to review. Preference is for ALT0/original, though both are supported. I agree that holding it for her birthday makes sense. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:53, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Crisco 1492: Thanks for the review! I guess this can be moved now? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hooks approved for special occasions go into the holding area at WP:DYKNA. Maybe Z1720 knows how to explain it better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Approved nominations

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Articles created/expanded on September 19

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Chauncey Archiquette

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  • Source: Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe (Thorpe said "[Archiquette] was my football idol and in our scrub games with the homemade football I always tried to emulate him") / Carlisle Vs. Army ("[Thorpe] was particularly taken with the team's star runner, an Indian boy named Chauncey Archiquette ... One day, Thorpe told himself, I'm going to be as tough as Chauncey ... [Thorpe, after watching practice] raced back and forth over the empty field, zigging here, zagging there, trying to emulate his idol.")
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 247 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'll probably have to cite WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE here: don't assume everyone worldwide is familiar with your subject. And for what it's worth, I made a bit of an informal survey about this on Discord, and the three editors who responded said they didn't know who Thorpe is. Note that my thoughts about the hook are independent of the survey; in fact, I made the survey because I wanted to know if American editors might find the hook interesting and to check my own thoughts. As for the nomination itself, the safest option here is probably to try a completely different angle. While ALT1 is arguably a better option, as you said, it loses some of the punch with the additional context. Thorpe is no Lionel Messi or Michael Jordan to warrant the angle, methinks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm rather stunned at the idea that Thorpe isn't well known enough. I don't really see any other good options with the article as well. Would changing the hook so that it does not mention Thorpe, but still has that aspect, work? – I.e. something like ALT2 ... that the "greatest athlete in the world" was inspired by Chauncey Archiquette? (I'd need to add the quote to the article, but Thorpe has widely been called that.) BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's a better hook, but I'm not sure if it will pass scrutiny. DYK usually wants quotes in quote hooks to be attributed whenever possible, but adding an attribution to the hook would probably weaken the article's punch. It might be a good idea to seek opinions from other editors who are experts on wordsmithing like RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, or Launchballer. In any case, I'd suggest dropping any hook that directly mentions Jim Thorpe per WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and either having only ALT2 for consideration for now, or trying a different angle. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I also have never heard of Jim Thorpe, although that may be because I know little about sports in general. I quite like ALT3: ... that tacklers "bounced off" Chauncey Archiquette "as if he were a brick wall"?.--Launchballer 15:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi BeanieFan11. This article created on the 18 September (and promoted to GA since) is long enough, new enough, well-sourced, neutral, and copyvio free. The article is presentable. The QPQ has been done. I'll admit, I (non-American) was not familiar with Jim Thorpe before this DYK, so I prefer ALT3. However, I don't love ALT3, because it seems like similar things have been said about a lot of American footballers. Perhaps it is worth making people click through to see who Jim Thorpe is in order to have an interesting hook? All hooks are cited and I've verified the citations. Good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 21:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm also not wild about ALT3, both on attribution and interestingness, but I wouldn't object to someone else promoting it. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 03:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 22

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Barquq Castle

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Barquq Castle
Barquq Castle
  • ... that the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret of Barquq Castle in the Gaza Strip were still standing until 2024?
  • Source: Abu Khalaf 1983, p. 182: "Nowadays the Khan is almost demolished, but the front part, which consists of the fac;ade including the gateway and the Mosque with its minaret still stands."
Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

Onceinawhile (talk) 00:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. I have done the QPQ now. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

article is long enough, new enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is complete. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Onceinawhile:@Gonzo fan2007: This hook implies that all of these things (the front façade, gateway, mosque and minaret) are no longer standing as of 2024. However, it doesn't necessarily say that in the article, just that the site was vaguely "damaged". If we know to what extent, and if we know that all those things are indeed no longer standing, then this hook is fine, that just needs to be mentioned sourced in the article. If not the hook may need to be tweaked somewhat to reflect the fact we don't know what parts are standing or not. Kimikel (talk) 14:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kimikel: thank you for raising this. The hook was written before the article was complete, so it was intentionally vague as to what happened during the war as we had not quite figured it out. Following further research, the article now says "The castle was damaged during the Israel–Hamas war." UNESCO have verified damage to the site, and the images in this article show what is standing and what is damaged. I suggest we amend the hook to:
Onceinawhile (talk) 18:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 27

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Phoebe Plummer

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Created by Launchballer (talk) and Folkezoft (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 253 past nominations.

Launchballer 03:13, 2 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Ooh, a quadruple hook. All of the articles are new enough, long enough, and well cited. There are a few places where phrasing could be a bit more neutral (I feel like inspired would be better than empowered, for example), but those may also be stylstic considerations. Earwig isn't happy, but it's the large block quote that speaks to Plummer's inspiration in that instance. Ideally Hehir's article would have a bit more on his early life, but if the sources aren't talking about it, rather difficult. (Minor quibble: the source says "unfortunately" rather than "unfortunate", but I think it works here).  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 28

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Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds

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  • Source: Cohen, Neil (November 2, 2006). "Just Desserts - 2004 Out Far! Sensation Eating Out is Back for Seconds". Echo Magazine. Archived from the original on February 24, 2007. Retrieved February 20, 2024.
Improved to Good Article status by PanagiotisZois (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Launchballer: Thank you for contributing to the discussion. :) Taking that into account, would ALT0 work as "that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds focusing on a gay man who pretends being straight to seduce another man came from writer-director Phillip J. Bartell's desire to invert the first film's premise?"? I can come up with a few alternatives if needed. PanagiotisZois (talk) 22:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 still violates that policy I'm afraid, and I still think ALT1 is more interesting. I would however suggest a slightly shorter version of ALT1 per WP:DYKTRIM, ALT1a: ... that a scene in Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds caused many actors to drop out?. Full review needed.--Launchballer 20:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I fear that if ALT1 is trimmed, it will end up becoming less interesting. On the one hand, it can be argued that it creates a sense of mystery. As in, "why did many actors drop out?". But on the other hand, the idea that actors dropped out of a role because the character has sex in a portable toilet is definitely unique and will also catch people's attention; I think. PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can see arguments either way, I'll let a reviewer/promoter decide.--Launchballer 22:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PanagiotisZois, this is not a review either, but I'm afraid retaining ALT1's bit about sex in a toilet would be borderline "excessively sensational or gratuitous" as per WP:DYKINT; concealing the scene in question through ALT1a should arguably make for an "Intriguing hook that leaves the reader wanting to know more". Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 16:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PanagiotisZois: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:16, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think this requires PZ's attention as there is still a valid hook on this page, i.e. ALT1a. This needs a reviewer.--Launchballer 23:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I don't find any of the hooks up above usable or interesting, and I don't get the hold up on writing new hooks as there are many available in the article. The nom has had two months to offer new ones. Viriditas (talk) 00:45, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do you intend on doing a full review? Until that happens and someone reviews this nomination, why bother coming up with new ones now? Once someone actually performs a proper review, there's nothing on my part to do.PanagiotisZois (talk) 19:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's pretty much the opposite to how I work, so I'll leave the review to someone else who will work with you. The "why bother" attitude is disturbing to me, as you could easily add new hooks and attract a reviewer. Viriditas (talk) 23:53, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PanagiotisZois and Viriditas: Right, well, the way I work is that I review the oldest fully unreviewed nom when I need a QPQ, and this is it (ping me when you've finished with Hanif Kureshi). This is long enough and new enough. QPQ done and I see no article disqualifiers. I would have said that ALT1a was intriguing (I would have wondered why they dropped out) and I disagree with ALT1 falling foul of WP:DYKGRAT (this is an article about sex!), but if Viriditas disagrees then you should probably propose another hook.--Launchballer 17:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: All right, I've come up with a few alternative hooks. I do think the OG is interesting, albeit needing a bit of rewording, and ALT1 also works in either its short or long fomr, but hopefully these new ones will prove more interesting. ALT2: "... that Phillip J. Bartell, writer and director of Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds, once described the film as "gaysploitation"?" Source. ALT3: "...that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds cowriter Q. Allan Brocka, a film heavily featuring the ex-gay movement, was often asked by ex-gay groups to denounce his homosexuality?" (Source: DVD Making-Of). ALT4: "...that Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds featuring nude scenes involving the male leads caused one critic to describe the film as a "must see"?" Source.PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I agree, ALT0 is interesting, but we can't use it because of WP:DYKFICTION and we can't use ALT3 as it fails WP:DYKMAJOR. ALT2's fine, though I'd trim it as follows: ALT2a: ... that the director and co-writer of Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds once described the film as "gaysploitation"?. (Technically I'd need another reviewer for 'co-writer', but ALT3 AGF checks out factually and covers that there was more than one writer so I'm IARing.) ALT4 feels promotional, so I'm approving ALT2a only. (I still don't think a hook about toilet sex is gratuitous from an article about sex, but let's see what a promoter thinks of ALT2a.)--Launchballer 12:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the use of "co-writer" is an issue, the hook can simply state "the director of" instead. One could argue that directors are usually treated as more important roles than screenwriters when it comes to films; unlike TV shows. PanagiotisZois (talk) 13:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's probably a better idea.--Launchballer 22:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 4

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Leonardo da Vinci (Isaacson book)

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Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 50 past nominations.

―Panamitsu (talk) 03:30, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article has nothing on the writing/background of the book and next to nothing on its content. The only facts about Isaacson are in the lede (unincorporated into the article) and uncited. It therefore fails to be complete or well-sourced. If we were to remove the uncited passages, the article would fall under the required prose length of a DYK. Unfortunately, I don't think this article would be ready for DYK without substantial further work, so in spite of the interesting hook, I'm failing it. Tenpop421 (talk) 22:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu: Pinging for a response to the above review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tenpop421: I have looked for sources about the writing/backgroundof this book but haven't been able to find anything. I recall Isaacsoon saying that Steve Jobs wanted him to write the biography, but can't find where I heard that. I've added a bit on the content of the book, but there is not much to write. It's a biography of Leonardo da Vinci. I've added a source for the text about the author. With that in mind, I don't believe WP:DYKCOMPLETE applies. ―Panamitsu (talk) 08:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu: I think there is more to say here. In the introduction and acknowledgments of the book (and to some extent in this interview), he talks quite extensively about writing the biography. Reviews in The Guardian, WaPo, and Psychology Today discuss Isaacson's particular contentions in the book (he agrees and disagrees w/ other historians, he focuses or doesn't focus on various topics). Also worth writing about in the Contents section is the "Learning from Leonardo" section in Chapter 33, which is mentioned by most reviewers (and in this wiki article, but only in summarising a review). Tenpop421 (talk) 01:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tenpop421: Thanks for the help, you were right. Does it look better now? ―Panamitsu (talk) 01:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu: sorry for the delay. Yes, this looks better now. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 00:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 7

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LaTasha Barnes

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  • ... that one of the most popular places to learn swing dance and lindy hop is in Malmo, Sweden?
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Created by Wroliver (talk).


Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Wroliver (talk) 18:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Wroliver, the article says onyl that the "Herrang Dance Camp is one of the most popular places in Europe to learn swing dance and Lindy Hop" and is sourced to its Wikipedia article. This wouldn't be acceptable and would need an independent source. Additionally it doesn't seem to have much to do with the subject of the article LaTasha Barnes, a hook focussing on her would be preferred. Finally, the article has been tagged for promotional tone and unclear citations that needs resolving before it can be posted - Dumelow (talk) 09:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Wroliver, just a reminder on this. If I don't hear back in the next couple of days I will close the nomination as unsuccessful. All the best - Dumelow (talk) 21:18, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd propose ALT1: ... that jazz dancer LaTasha Barnes used to be a sergeant in the U.S. Army? Sdkb talk 05:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Marking for closure as article continues to have significant citation issues. It has also been tagged for promotional content - Dumelow (talk) 08:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wroliver has requested to keep this open for another day or so. There is significant work to be done here to address the tags on the article though - Dumelow (talk) 22:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alt DYK proposed for LaTasha Barnes article: DYK that dancer/choreographer LaTasha Barnes began her career as a sergeant in the U.S. Army? [1]

Note: I have made some revisions to the article to address concerns mentioned, including removing the Wikipedia reference and replacing it with a better reference. I've attempted to keep a neutral tone throughout, and changed some of the language for that purpose. Please let me know if any other changes are needed.Wroliver (talk) 21:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTasha_Barnes[reply]

Hi Wroliver, thanks for getting back to me. I have been through "Early years" and "Performing career" and noted a few bits that are not supported by the sources cited. Can you look to resolve these and any other similar parts of the article before I continue the review - Dumelow (talk) 10:43, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've also tagged a sentence copied verbatim from the cited source. Please address this and also any other similar instances, we cannot violate copyright in this way - Dumelow (talk) 10:49, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Wroliver, further to your message on my talk page I have looked at the next section "Cultural Ambassador and Educator". Again it is full of statements not supported by the source cited or where better sources are needed. Can you please address these and look at the remaining two sections to check for similar issues. It is very frustrating to have to go through this article line by line. It is basic policy here that anything stated in the article should be supported by the source - Dumelow (talk) 08:25, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wroliver: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 14:53, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see my comments have been addressed for the "Cultural Ambassador and Educator". Can you please confirm you have checked the final two sections of the article for similar issues (including that everything stated is backed up by the source cited) ; it is very frustrating to go through it line by line to find the same issue repeated - Dumelow (talk) 15:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Wroliver:, further to your message on my talk page saying you have checked the last two paragraphs I have started to take a look. The first sentence I checked was "All of her experiences as a performer as well as her academic work for her thesis have served as important precursors to her current show, The Jazz Continuum, an "ongoing project to close the gap between contemporary Black dances and their predecessors."" This includes some specific claims and a direct quote, but nothing to support it appears in the source cited which is just a list of the "top 5" shows on the stage at a given time. It is fairly basic stuff to make sure that everything stated in the article is supported by the work cited. I am not going to waste time checking the rest of the article. Please carefully review it and check that everything is supported properly - Dumelow (talk) 11:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wroliver:, scratch that. It was a error with the url in the ref cited that was redirecting it to a different article. I'll look over it now - Dumelow (talk) 11:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wroliver:. I've flagged a citation needed for her bachelors degrees, for her 2021 Bessie award and a better source needed for the stuff cited to Broadway World (which is listed at WP:RSP as "generally unreliable"). Other than that should be OK - Dumelow (talk) 12:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wroliver: has made changes to the sources and ALT1 should be good to go. I don't have an NYT subscription so AGF on sourcing, I amended the hook slightly to say "used to be a sergeant" rather than "began her career as a sergeant" as that could be interpreted as her having skipped the more junior ranks - Dumelow (talk) 16:14, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sequenza XIV

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  • ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, in 2002 the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by the artistry of Rohan de Saram including traditional Kandyan drumming? Source: [5]
    • Reviewed: to come
    • Comment: This is one of the key works of 21st-century classical music.
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2118 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - ?
Overall: Hi Gerda Arendt, happy to do the DYK review. The article has a readable prose size of 4310 characters. It was created yesterday. Every paragraph in the body of the article is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyright problems. QPQ has not yet been done. I have a minor quibble about the hook: it seems to me that it tries to convey too many individual facts. What about something simpler like

or

Thank you for reviewing, and the suggestions. I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mind. I believe that the one thing fascinating "Maestro Berio" (as he is called by the cellist) as well as the ordinary Main page reader is this drumming. We can rather do without the series if it's really too much. I can also imagine to improve the series article to make it a double hook. ALT1 is no option for me because some kind of reverence for the cellist (and drummer) was the motivation to write the article. Making him GA seemed harder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I see. If we want to go without the series, we could use something like
ALT3: ...that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio was inspired by the childhood experiences of cellist Rohan de Saram with Kandyan drumming?
But I think your original suggestion also meets the DYK requirements so the decision may be more a matter of taste. Approved. Phlsph7(talk) 07:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I think that ALT3 is a bit smallish, - the childhood drumming is just part of the inspiration, the playing of one of the most inspiring cellists of all times should not be left out completely ;) - I learned of his death from a friend who is a cellist, and felt his enthusiasm remembering a live concert of Xenakis. Berio knew why he added to a series that had already been considered complete ("complete" recording in 1995), - it's an outstanding piece in every respect and deserves a little longer hook, imho. We can't use any of the pics, sadly, because de Saram's is not free, and Berio's is way too young for one of his last works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One last alternative if we want to go for the full package: what do you think about the following, a version of ALT0 copy-edited only for better flow:
ALT0a: ... that Sequenza XIV for solo cello by Luciano Berio, completed in 2002 as the last work in a series begun in 1958, was inspired by Rohan de Saram's artistry, including traditional Kandyan drumming?
Phlsph7 (talk) 10:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the hooks here would be very enticing to the average reader, but I won't object if someone else wants to promote it. Just noting a bit of queasiness. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Someone runs a series from 1958 to 2002, and you think that's not "enticing"? We have no room for that the series had been deemed complete in 1995, but someone made an exception. Someone plays cello and Indian drum, and you think that's not unusual? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the part about completing a series started over 40 years earlier should be interesting to the average reader. Phlsph7 (talk) 09:13, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Completing a series of works over a long span of time is not unusual in classical music. The span of time between Shostakovich's first and last symphonies, for example, span the same number of years as that between the first and last of Berio's Sequenza. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:14, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 9

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Veiqia

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Nundua, seated, veiqia tattoos visible at her hips
Nundua, seated, veiqia tattoos visible at her hips
  • ... that when young Fijian women reached puberty, their hips were tattooed with veiqia (pictured)? Source: "In nineteenth-century Fiji, when a girl reached puberty, she was tattooed in a secluded enclosure by a daubati (female specialist)." https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv18kc0px.19 & for hips, see " following account of tatuing (veinggia) is brief and incomplete partly because it is a custom restricted to the female sex and then confined to that portion of the body surrounding the pudendurn muliebre and adjacent areas which are covered by the short fringe skirt (liku)" https://www.jstor.org/stable/2790097
Improved to Good Article status by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 107 past nominations.

Lajmmoore (talk) 20:55, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Recent GA. Article is well-referenced throughout with no copyvio detected. Hook is interesting and referenced. Image confirmed to be PD. Good to go with the QPQ done. Juxlos (talk) 06:54, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael F. Adams

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Adams in 2013
Adams in 2013
Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 79 past nominations.

PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Earwig comes up high, but everything seems to be long names of organizations Valereee (talk) 20:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Personally I find ALT1 the most interesting, ALT0 as second choice. Not wild about all the affiliated sources for the hooks, can we find somethng from places he didn't work? Valereee (talk) 20:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 12

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Kiki Wong

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Wong at a 2024 Smashing Pumpkins show with Green Day
Wong at a 2024 Smashing Pumpkins show with Green Day
  • Source: NME, June 2024: "Kiki Wong, the new guitarist in The Smashing Pumpkins, has spoken about the “mind-blowing” experience of playing her first shows with the band over the last week. [...] Among her claims to fame is playing drums for Taylor Swift's performance of "Shake It Off" at the 2014 MTV Video Music Awards."
Created by Jonathan Deamer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ: Unknown
Overall: Nice work! The pic especially is a great find. Innisfree987 (talk) 08:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 13

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Bethwel Henry

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  • ... that Bethwel Henry was the first Micronesian to receive a degree in his field and served as a United Nations delegate at age 25?
  • Source: degree, UN (the source says he was 26, but he was born in 1934 per [6] and his own words ([7]) and thus would have been 25)
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 262 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is well sourced, hook is somewhat interesting and QPQ is completed. Playing a bit loose with the timing, but I don't see that being an issue, so I approve. TheBritinator (talk) 15:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mały Brzostek

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  • ... that there's a town in Poland which has disappeared?
Created by Filipny (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Filipny (talk) 20:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - AGF on the hook citations due to the fact that I don't speak Polish. ALT2 is ineligible due to the fact that it doesn't appear in the article (and also is somewhat contradicted by the map showing its location in the article). I'm not sure ALT1 is totally factual, is it really correct to say that a town that became a suburb of another was absorbed by it?
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Pass ALT0 only, other two hooks are ineligible for reasons described above. ALT0 probably also needs a minor reword, may I propose ALT0a: "... that a medieval town in Poland disappeared?". Although this isn't strictly a requirement, some copyediting to clean up awkward grammar/phrasing in the article before it appears on the front page would probably be nice. Thank you for this well researched article! 🌸⁠wasianpower⁠🌸 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 14

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Francis L. Sampson

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Official portrait of Major General Sampson, 1967
Official portrait of Major General Sampson, 1967
Improved to Good Article status by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • No QPQ needed. Passed GAN. Sources are reliable and article is long enough. Image is properly licensed. I think the first hook is too misleading, as when I first read it I thought it implied that Sampson's story played a big role in the film, but the article barely mentions that he suggested something to someone who's story did play a big role. I think that ALT 1 is better, but it should change the link to [[D-Day landings]] rather than the present [[Normandy landings|D-Day landings]] to keep it under the 200 character limit. Source is verified. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 08:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 15

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John Moore (basketball)

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  • ... that after learning that UCLA's student body president was Black, John Moore's mother said "this is where he's going to school"?
  • Source: "'You mean there are fifteen thousand students at this school, and out of all these people the student body president is black?' ... 'Well,' Johnny's mother said, 'this is where he's going to school.' "(Wooden: A Coach's Life)
Created by Bagumba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 111 past nominations.

—Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough. Hook is interesting, reads good, and is short enough. Everything in the article is cited. I read the entire article and just fixed a few minor things. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 16

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Susanne Craig

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  • ... that Susanne Craig was born in the same hospital as Ted Cruz a year apart?
    • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Lisha2037 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Lisha2037 (talk) 00:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - Hook doesn't appear to be supported by article. Cannot find mention of Cruz in edit history.
  • Interesting: No - Is there more context that can be given that signals why this is interesting, beyond coincidence? It looks like there might be at this article, but it's paywalled.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Updated - see ALT1 and ALT2 below. Great work getting this article to GA status! It looks like this hook isn't in the article - please take a look at WP:DYKHOOK. Even if it were, I'm not sure it's the most interesting hook there could be for this article unless there's missing detail from the source. Please take a look and see if this one can be improved, or if there's another you'd suggest. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 09:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Deamer it’s my first time nominating for DYK so I’m still getting used to what that entails regarding style and interest. If you would be done to suggest something? I think since elections are coming up maybe something related to that and the Trump a tax story? Lisha2037— Preceding undated comment added 15:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about something on the fact they she received the first batch of tax return documents anonymously in her mailbox? The NPR source has some additional colour on this.
The early career section could be expanded with some of the details on her time at the Guantlet from this piece. Pullitzer prize winner only started journalism to get free dinner theatre tickets could be a fun hook if you can find the right wording :) Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonathan Deamer I think the tax idea is better for the current events. Did you know the journalist who won the Pulitzer for breaking the story on Trump’s taxes received them anonymously in her mailbox? Lisha2037— Preceding undated comment added 23:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lisha2037 Thanks! I've taken the liberty of building on this with a couple of alternatives:

  • ALT1: ... that Susanne Craig won a Pulitzer Prize for her reporting on Donald Trump's taxes after receiving his tax records anonymously in her mailbox? NBC, 2016: ""I opened it up and there was three pages of Donald Trump's tax returns there and I just went 'No way!'" she said in an interview with NBC News on Monday. Craig said she was instantly intrigued but skeptical about the authenticity of the documents she’d received anonymously." Pulitzer.org: "The 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Explanatory Reporting [...] David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times. For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges."
  • ALT2 (in case direct mentions of politicians is not desirable in DYK for the next few weeks): ... that Pulitzer Prize winner Susanne Craig advises her fellow reporters to check their snail mail? New York Times: "The whole experience has left me eager to share a bit of advice with my fellow reporters: Check your mailboxes. Especially nowadays, when people are worried that anything sent by email will leave forensic fingerprints, “snail mail” is a great way to communicate with us anonymously." Pulitzer.org: "The 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winner in Explanatory Reporting [...] David Barstow, Susanne Craig and Russ Buettner of The New York Times. For an exhaustive 18-month investigation of President Donald Trump’s finances that debunked his claims of self-made wealth and revealed a business empire riddled with tax dodges."

I think either ALT1 or ALT2 is good to go, but to avoid approving "my own" hook, and given this is potentially a contentious subject right now, could another reviewer please take a look just at these two hooks? Thanks in advance! Jonathan Deamer (talk) 20:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonathan Deamer / I like the first hook better. Let me know what I need to do next! :)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisha2037 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Lisha2037 No further action needed from you! When another editor checks these hooks we're good to go. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 16:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Lisha2037 and Jonathan Deamer: ALT1 is more interesting than ALT2, though could do with being truncated at 'taxes' per WP:DYKTRIM. Article says Craig won the prize, the article says she shared it with two others. Did they each get one?--Launchballer 18:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer The Pulitzer Prize is given digitally to all of them with all of them receiving the prize and the $15,000 award. :::::@Lisha2037:
Fine by me. For your information, pings don't work unless you sign, and you sign with ~~~~. The cited source is down and I'd prefer to see a secondary source anyway; when you've done that, I will approve this.--Launchballer 11:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer- did you mean a source citing the monetary award given? It’s here [2] Lisha2037 (talk) 20:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC)@lisha2037[reply]
No, what I meant is that the source currently being used to cite the hook - currently ref #25 - is broken. It is not displaying what it is supposed to display. I suggest swapping it out with a secondary source such as Vogue.--Launchballer 20:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer- the source works just fine for me. It’s straight from the website of the Pulitzer Prizes. Lisha2037 (talk) 23:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC)@lisha2037[reply]
Launchballer, when I click on the link for ref #25 in the article, it takes me to the Pulitzer Prizes source; that page shows the three winners including Craig and the $15,000 prize amount. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It certainly wasn't when I checked before, but it is now. Let's roll.--Launchballer 21:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Siebert, Brian. "From the Lindy Hop to Hip-Hop in One Improvising Body". New York Times. New York Times. Retrieved 2022-11-16.
  2. ^ "Pulitzer FAQs".

Tea production in Indonesia

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Created by Juxlos (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 232 past nominations.

Juxlos (talk) 06:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Per WP:DYKCOMPLETE please expand the section Impact to more than a one sentence paragraph RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:16, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Easier to merge it to Statistics. That better? Juxlos (talk) 02:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos: works for me. Thanks for the efforts to create this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT1, but it's not supported by the source – Ceylon (i.e., Sri Lanka) is named as the second largest producer, with Java and Sumatra combined being third. Pinging Juxlos.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was under the impression that Ceylon was part of the Raj at that point (kind of like Burma). Guess not. Hook updated. Juxlos (talk) 00:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Smart (police officer)

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James Smart
James Smart
  • ... that Keir Starmer described Chief Constable James Smart (pictured) as "one of the founding fathers of the Scottish Police"?
Created by Sahaib (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 34 past nominations.

Sahaib (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Sahaib, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 16 October and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I hadn't heard of the publisher used for the citaiton for the hook but the author looks like they are reliable, holding a PhD and having written on the history of Scottish police elsewher (and being a former police superintendent); hook fact is mentioned in the article and supported by the source; image is OK and looks to be public domain by virtue of age; I didn't pick up any issues with overly-close paraphrasing from the online sources; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ McGowan, John (30 November 2022). Policing the Metropolis of Scotland: A History of Police in The City & County of Edinburgh, 1833-1901 (Volume I). Turlough Publishers. p. 1554. Retrieved 15 October 2023.

Articles created/expanded on October 17

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Rich Romer

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5x expanded by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Great work on the article! Both hooks are interesting and verified as being sourced in the article. ALT0 relies on this source to say he worked as an engineer. According to the About Us page for the East Greenbush Education Foundation, "The East Greenbush Education Foundation, Inc. is an audited 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose sole purpose is to raise funds to support student achievement. Founded in 1985 and located in East Greenbush, NY, the Foundation is governed by a volunteer Board of Directors." I think this is a marginally reliable source. If there are concerns that this source is insufficiently reliable, I recommend using ALT1 instead. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Waltiea Rolle

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  • ... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by a talent scout while walking home from school?
  • Reviewed:
Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Would it be quirkier to replace "talent scout" for Rutherford with "Olympic track and field medalist" i.e. different sport, cachet of Olympics?[10] For ALT2, this is a bit better source that she became the first instead of relying on one anticipating that she "will" be be the first. —Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which of the alts should I revise? Do I just edit them directly or do I add an ALT3? Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm OK with the ALT0 format, which I assume was also your preferred one? Typically, in the spirit of WP:TALK#REPLIED, it's best to just create a new ALT, to avoid anyone looking at the discussion getting confused.—Bagumba (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9: The new ALTs needs to have Rutherford's medal background mentioned and sourced in the WP page as well (WP:DYKHOOK).—Bagumba (talk) 12:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ref added to Rutherford. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9: Sorry if it wasn't clear. Everything in the hook must be mentioned in prose and sourced in the bolded link i.e. Rolle's page, not Rutherford's page (though you can improve that too, it's just not required for DYK). The focus is on the bolded target.—Bagumba (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 04:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 seems more interesting as it mentions Rutherford's background being in a different sport. If a backup is somehow needed, ALT2 also checked out.—Bagumba (talk) 05:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 18

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The rent strike in Independence, Missouri
The rent strike in Independence, Missouri

2024 Kansas City metropolitan area rent strike

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Moved to mainspace by LunaEclipse (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

💽 LunaEclipse 💽 ⚧ 【=◈︿◈=】 00:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new and long enough. Article is well-sourced, neutral, and only pings on Earwigs for some long proper titles. Hook is cited, short enough, and interesting. QPQ has been completed. Image is freely licensed, clear at a diminished size, and used in the article. Morgan695 (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 19

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Lockheed Martin FB-22

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  • ... that a bomber version of the F-22 Raptor called the FB-22 was once considered by the U.S. Air Force in the mid-2000s?
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Steve7c8 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Steve7c8 (talk) 02:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

John Green (basketball)

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  • Source: "John Green, All American senior guard, was the team's high scorer with 559 points in 29 games, a 19.3 average." (The California Eagle) "At 6 feet 3, he started for the first of Wooden’s 12 NCAA Final Four teams." (Pioneer Press)
Created by Bagumba (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 111 past nominations.

—Bagumba (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • 1. New enough - Green tickY Article created on the day of the nomination
  • 2. Long enough - Green tickY 4451 Readable prose size, not a stub
  • 3. External policy compliance - Green tickY. Well-sourced, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Spot checked sources 11, 19, 21, and 26 (11% of sources used) shows no copyvio or close paraphrasing
  • 4. Presentable - Green tickY No article improvement or citation needed tags.
  • 5. Sourced - Green tickY. Verified both sources provided, meets RS.
  • 6. Hook short enough - Green tickY Brief and to the point.
  • 7. Hook interesting - Green tickY
  • 8. Images - Green tickY - No image included for main page publication
  • 9. QPQ - Green tickY - Done.
  • 10. Other Green tickY - No problems.

The Empire Brunei

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Atrium of The Empire Brunei hotel
Atrium of The Empire Brunei hotel
Moved to mainspace by Chipmunkdavis (talk), Pangalau (talk), and Azuru79 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

CMD (talk) 08:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shadia Abu Ghazaleh

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Improved to Good Article status by Grnrchst (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 42 past nominations.

Grnrchst (talk) 14:43, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: All three hooks were verified, but I prefer ALT1 as I believe it to be the most unique hook of the three. Yue🌙 19:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feelie

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Badge from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Badge from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 693 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Looks good to me. Expansion is fine (this has nothing in common with the earlier collection of unverified trivia), the first hook is verified, I don't see any plagiarism, paragraphs are sourced, the image is properly licensed, etc. I like the first hook best. Drmies (talk) 01:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qian Jin Bao

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January 22, 1926, issue of Qian Jin Bao
January 22, 1926, issue of Qian Jin Bao
  • Source: Alexander V. Pantsov, Steven I. Levine. Deng Xiaoping: A Revolutionary Life. Oxford University Press, 2015. pp. 34-35
Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 407 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 21:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough and long enough. Earwig is showing me 0%, which may be an error, but spotchecking I haven't found any issues. Image is sufficiently clear for what it is – one doesn't expect newspapers to show up well at 100px. Looks good to go!  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 20

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Głos Kolejarzy Ewakuowanych — Golos Evakuirovannykh Zheleznodorozhnikov

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  • Source: Ludwik Bazylow, Jan Sobczak. Encyklopedia Rewolucji Październikowej. Wiedza Powszechna, 1987. p. 118
Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 408 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 12:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Harvey Tuckett

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  • ... that cavalry officer Harvey Tuckett retired from the British Army to become an actor, but was shot in a duel by his former commanding officer?
  • Source: Siddons, J. H. "Thespic Reminiscences". Demorest's Illustrated Monthly. Vol. 15, no. 1. p. 143. [11]
Created by AntientNestor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

AntientNestor (talk) 14:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The source used is quite difficult to read but appears to put together the events of Tuckett's life at this point as described. Just need to address the access dates issue (corrected): There are access dates in the article that predate the publishing of the article on Oct 20, was this copied from a sandbox, draft or external document? Reconrabbit 21:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dog

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Various types of dogs.
Various types of dogs.
Improved to Good Article status by Wolverine X-eye (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

All the better for views if you ask me, but technically that hook would be about dog meat and thus it would fail WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE, so with regret I've struck it. ALT0 is available for review; might have a rummage for hooks myself. (Also, that image of 'a female dog nursing' is adorable.)--Launchballer 19:28, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doing a tick to make clear that this comment is not an objection, but just excerpts from the two sources verifying the hook fact. The earlier article says, "The researchers determined that dogs were probably domesticated from now-extinct wolves between 11,000 and 16,000 years ago — before humans began farming around 10,000 years ago."[12] and the more recent article pushes this timeline back further,[13] "Dogs were the first domesticated species and the only animal known to enter into a domestic relationship with people during the Pleistocene [...] dogs were domesticated in Siberia by 23,000 years ago, possibly while both people and wolves were isolated during the harsh climate of the Last Glacial Maximum. Dogs then accompanied the first people into the Americas and traveled with them as humans rapidly dispersed into the continent beginning 15,000 years ago [...] The earliest generally accepted dog dates to 15 ka (from the site of Bonn-Oberkassel, discussed below). However, claims for the existence of domestic dogs as early as 40 ka (22–28) have been made on the basis of morphological (22, 24–27), isotopic (22, 29), genetic (22, 28, 30), and contextual assessments (24, 31) of ancient canid remains. Yet, none of these potential domestication markers is fail-safe, owing to the fact that wolves and early domesticated dogs can be difficult to distinguish from each other." Rjjiii (talk) 00:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feelie (Brave New World)

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Created by Zxcvbnm (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 695 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 14:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 21

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Marcia Moore (actress)

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Created by Silver seren (talk), FloridaArmy (talk), and THEFlint Shrubwood (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 132 past nominations.

SilverserenC 18:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Very interesting! Good to go. Skyshiftertalk 20:09, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xu Xinfu

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  • ... that Xu Xinfu adapted the fictional Chinese-American detective Charlie Chan for Chinese audiences?
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 696 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is interesting and well-sourced, but I highly recommend the promoter change the hook to "... that Xu Xinfu adapted the fictional Chinese-American detective Charlie Chan for Chinese audiences?" I think most readers will be unfamiliar with the character, as I myself was until I read both articles. Yue🌙 04:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 22

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Al-Shaykh Badr

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5x expanded by Al Ameer son (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 177 past nominations.

Al Ameer (talk) 17:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Al Ameer, review follows: article more than 5x expanded from 22 October; largely from a single, reliable source; other sources used look to be reliable also; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in article and checks out (as far as I can tell from my rudimentary French) to the source (albeit the online preview gave me a different page number, I am assuming you may be working from a printed copy?); happy to AGF there are no copyright violations (principal source is in French, others offline, Earwig check is fine); a QPQ has been carried out. My only query is with the "Climate" section, I wasn't sure how I verify the information in it, a search for "Al-Shaykh Badr" at the cited source of "Climate-data.org" doesn't yield anything - Dumelow (talk) 07:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine - Dumelow (talk) 19:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shunten

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  • Source: Smits, Gregory (2019). Maritime Ryukyu, 1050–1650. Honolulu: University of Hawai'i Press. 154–155
  • Source: Itō, Yūshi (2011). "The Legend of Minamoto no Tametomo: Controversy and Connections Between Ryūkyūan/Okinawan and Japanese Histories". In Edmond, Jacob; Johnson, Henry; Leckie, Jacqueline (eds.). Recentering Asia: Histories, Encounters, Identities. Leiden: Brill. doi:10.1163/9789004212619_006. ISBN 9781906876258., pp. 90–100.
Improved to Good Article status by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 88 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:57, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Generalissima, this article was an interesting read! Article long enough, well-sourced, copyvio-free, and presentable. This nomination is just within the 7 day deadline. QPQ done. Hook is interesting and sourced (offline accepted in good faith).
I can't help but think a hook along the lines of: "... that the myth of Shunten, the legendary first king of Chūzan, was used to justify the 1872 annexation of Okinawa?" would be more interesting, if just because it shows how late this myth still had currency (I also suspect front page readers would be more familiar with Okinawa than Ryukyu). I'll leave it up to your judgement if you want to include such an alt. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 18:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tenpop421: That's actually a good point. I'll use the recommended alt hook, with Itō, Yūshi (2011). "The Legend of Minamoto no Tametomo: Controversy and Connections Between Ryūkyūan/Okinawan and Japanese Histories". In Edmond, Jacob; Johnson, Henry; Leckie, Jacqueline (eds.). Recentering Asia: Histories, Encounters, Identities. Leiden: Brill. doi:10.1163/9789004212619_006. ISBN 9781906876258., pp. 90–100 as the source. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:09, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice, I've added the alt. Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:34, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oun Yao-ling

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  • ... that the weightlifter Oun Yao-ling was asked to compete in the South African Games, but the opportunity was swiftly rescinded once the organisers found out he was Chinese?
  • Source: Blutstein, Harry (2021). Games of Discontent: Protests, Boycotts, and Politics at the 1968 Mexico Olympics. Montreal: McGill–Queen's University Press. pp. 34–35. ISBN 978-0-2280-0675-6. Retrieved 2024-10-26 – via Google Books.

    This source verifies that Oun Yao-ling is also known as Günter Wu. The book notes: "To assure the white population that South Africa was held in high regard by the sporting world, it was important to have a large contingent of international competitors at the Bloemfontein Games. To this end, nearly 100 invitations went out to foreign athletes; white athletes. There were, however, some embarrassing slip-ups. Inadvertently, the organisers invited German weightlifter Günter Wu, who was Chinese, and New Zealand runner Kevin Ross, who was Maori. Both invitations were promptly withdrawn when this unforgivable mistake was discovered. In the months running up to the South Africa Games, Brutus lobbied athletes, asking them not to participate."

  • ALT1: ... that the weightlifter Oun Yao-ling was asked to compete in the South African Games, but the opportunity was swiftly rescinded once the organisers found out he was Chinese, not white? Source: Same source as the first hook.
  • ALT2: ... that Oun Yao-ling, who did not speak Mandarin Chinese, represented Taiwan at the 1964 Summer Olympics? Source: Ji, Cheng-jin 吉承進 (1964-10-12). "項耀林 惡補國語 拜師鐵人" [Oun Yao-ling Intensifies Mandarin Studies with the Help of a Mentor]. United Daily News (in Chinese). p. 3.

    This source verifies that he competed at the 1964 Summer Olympics. The article notes: "不會說國語的我國舉重選手項耀林，最近幾天困擾極了，因為每當隊伍集合時，他無法聽懂口令，常常有不知適從的感覺。"

    From Google Translate: "Oun Yao-ling, a Taiwanese weightlifter who cannot speak Mandarin, has been extremely troubled in recent days because whenever the team gathers, he cannot understand the commands and often feels at a loss."

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rich Romer
Created by Cunard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 87 past nominations.

Cunard (talk) 07:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Recently expanded, long enough, solidly written. Verified by source, QPQ done. The article is good. I think ALT0 is the best, but ALT1 is perhaps clearer on why it was rescinded so maybe we should go with that. ALT2 is also very interesting, but I think slightly less than the first 2.
Unrelated to DYK eligibility, but does any source say what language he spoke if it wasn't Mandarin? I am curious. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:31, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the review, PARAKANYAA (talk · contribs)! I didn't find any sources that directly confirmed what language he spoke. But he was born in Germany in 1940, his mother is from Germany, he studied at the German university Stuttgart Technology University of Applied Sciences, and he was living in Germany in 1963 right before the 1964 Summer Olympics. So it is high likely that his native language is German. Cunard (talk) 09:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gilbert Wilson (geologist)

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  • ... that geologist Gilbert Wilson declared his favourite expression was “I’m in love” in his McGill yearbook in 1924?
  • ALT1: ... that when geologist Gilbert Wilson went to school he was the fifth Wilson, so was known as "Quintus"? Source: Source – offline obituary '[he] went to school in Windermere where as one of five attending Wilsons he was known as Quintus' - source (ref 1) JGR and JC (1986). "Dr G Wilson (1899–1986)". Annual Report, Geological Society of London: 34–35
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Georgina Sutton
Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 20:28, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Thank you - fixed! Chaiten1 (talk) 17:54, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thanks for the adjustment. The article was created on 22 October 2024. It has a readable prose size of 6461 characters. Every paragraph is sourced. WP:EARWIG shows no copyvios. QPQ was done. The language of the article is neutral.

I'm not sure that the article should include the sentence with the quotes from the McGill yearbook since this sounds to me like trivia. Do comparable articles do that or do secondary sources discuss them? If the sentence is removed then we could not use the ALT0, which would leave us with ALT1. ALT1 is cited and interesting. I would make a slight grammatical adjustment:

ALT1a: ... that when geologist Gilbert Wilson went to school he was the fifth Wilson, so he was known as "Quintus"?

I think it would be better to move the section "Family" before the section "Awards and recognition" but this is optional. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you; good point about trivia, I will edit this and am very happy with ALT1a Chaiten1 (talk) 17:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC) All fixed now! Phlsph7 Chaiten1 (talk) 18:19, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, approve ALT1a. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Helliwells Ltd

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1939 advertisement
1939 advertisement
  • ... that British aerospace engineering firm Helliwells Ltd (advertisement pictured) began as a maker of fireplace accessories?
  • ALT1: ... that Helliwells Ltd (advertisement pictured) produced a motor scooter that was used by British police? Source: "Swallow 'Gadabout' motor scooter, 1948. The Swallow Coachbuilding Co. Ltd was bought in 1945 by the Helliwell Group, an aircraft servicing and repair company. They started to produce the Gadabout in 1946 ... was confirmed successful when adopted by public bodies including the Staffordshire Constabulary." from "Gadabout Motor Scooter". Science Museum Group Collection. Retrieved 10 October 2024.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James Smart (police officer)
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 892 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 20:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article moved to mainspace on same date as nomination. No issues with article writing, earwig & citations, and it is long enough. AGF on both hook sources. QPQ done. Good to go, nice work! B3251(talk) 03:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Smith (moneylender)

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Smith depicted on his memorial
Smith depicted on his memorial
  • ... that a charity founded by Henry Smith (memorial pictured) in 1628 now has assets of over £1 billion?
  • Source: "The Charity was founded in 1628 by Henry Smith, a businessman working in the City of London." from: "About Us". Henry Smith Charity. Retrieved 16 October 2024. and: net assets listed at Charity Commission for 2023 are £1.26 billion see: "The Henry Smith Charity - Charity 230102". Charity Commission. Retrieved 16 October 2024.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 891 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 11:54, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Fascinating article. Long enough, well-written and recent enough. Hook is very nice and properly supported by an inline citation to a reliable source. QPQ is done and the image has the correct license tag. Should be good to go. Yakikaki (talk) 20:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sack of Delhi (1757)

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  • ... that during the Afghan sacking of Delhi, over 30 to as high as 300 million rupees worth of goods were plundered?
  • Source: Ahmad Shah Durrani: Father of Modern Afghanistan - Gandha Singh pg. 186
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Noorullah21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Noorullah (talk) 16:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Can we say something like "between 30 and 300 million rupees"? The grammar is a little weird here.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Let's clean up the hook, but otherwise good to go. Congrats on the GA.. ThaesOfereode (talk) 01:31, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ThaesOfereode: So, something like this; "that during the Afghan sacking of Delhi, between 30 and 300 million rupees worth of goods were plundered?" Noorullah (talk) 01:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Noorullah21: Yep, that works for me. Approved. ThaesOfereode (talk) 02:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 23

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Rust Red Hills

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  • ... that Rust Red Hills is being sold to renovate student housing, a court-approved move that museum associations say violates the ethics of deaccessioning?
  • Source: Boucher, Brian (September 4, 2024). "A Court Approves Valparaiso University’s Controversial Plan to Sell Paintings From Brauer Museum Collection". Artnet. News. Quote: "The Brauer Museum of Art at Indiana's Valparaiso University has been at the center of controversy for a year and a half, as the school has moved to sell three valuable artworks from the museum’s collection to fund improvements to freshman dormitories. The paintings, by Frederic Edwin Church, Childe Hassam, and Georgia O'Keeffe, have been valued in the area of $20 million. Now, the Porter County Superior Court has approved of the university's plan, according to a court order dated August 29...The plan to sell the works was met with an outcry from many in the university community, a lawsuit filed by namesake founding director Richard Brauer, and condemnation of the sale in a joint statement issued by the leadership of the Association of Art Museum Directors, the American Alliance of Museums, the Association of Academic Museums and Galleries, and the Association of Art Museum Curators. "This remains a fundamental ethical principle of the museum field, one which all institutions are obligated to respect: in no event shall funds from deaccessioned works be used for anything other than support for a museum's collections, either through acquisitions or the direct care of works of art".
  • Another source: Cui, Liya (September 4, 2024). "Indiana Court Allows Valparaiso University to Sell O'Keeffe Painting". Reuters. Quote: "An Indiana judge has ruled that Valparaiso University can sell a Georgia O'Keeffe and two other paintings...The private Lutheran university in Indiana last February announced its intention to sell the most valuable paintings in its Brauer Museum of Art collection, estimated to be worth $20 million in total, to fund a dormitory renovation...When a museum sells its artwork to raise funds, the money is typically used to acquire, store or preserve other works, according to guidelines established by the Association of Art Museum Directors."
  • Older source that was published before the court approval: "Richardson, Kalia (March 10, 2023). "Its Georgia O'Keeffe Is Worth Millions. And Its Dorms Need Updating". The New York Times. Quote: "Schools typically court controversy when they announce they will sell artworks to raise funds, an act known as deaccessioning. Several sales have resulted in sanctions from art associations....Valparaiso's desire to pay for work on the dorms with proceeds from the paintings has received pushback...Valparaiso's announcement alarmed art associations because of a long-held principle among museums: Revenue from deaccessioned pieces should be used to acquire new works, not for operating costs...Four art associations issued a joint statement condemning Valparaiso and the idea that the works in the Brauer's collection were "disposable financial assets." One of the groups, the Association of Art Museum Directors, also told the museum’s director, Jonathan Canning, that if the university proceeded with the sale, it would consider censuring and sanctioning the museum."
Created by Viriditas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 28 past nominations.

Viriditas (talk) 23:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • the article certainly new enough, long enough, and very well-sourced. Nominator has also reviewed enough. The hook is short enough, and touches on an interesting and ongoing issue. Cardofk (talk) 17:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carl Smith (canoeing)

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Carmen, canoe designed by Smith in 1882
Carmen, canoe designed by Smith in 1882
Created by Yakikaki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 142 past nominations.

Yakikaki (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Yan Ruisheng

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Advertisement for Yan Ruisheng
Advertisement for Yan Ruisheng
  • ... that Yan Ruisheng (advertisement pictured) was China's first full-length feature film?
  • Source: Xiao, Zhiwei (1998). "Chinese Cinema". In Zhang, Yingjin; Xiao, Zhiwei (eds.). Encyclopedia of Chinese Film. New York, London: Routledge. pp. 3–30. ISBN 978-0-415-15168-9., among many others
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 697 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article looks good. Nice work. A minor point: @Crisco 1492: Is it appropriate to say in the hook that it was China's first full-length feature film when the article seems to be a little less certain (Yan Ruisheng is commonly identified as the first Chinese-made full-length feature film / has been considered China's first full-length feature film)? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Castle Knob

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Castle Knob
Castle Knob
  • ... that the mediaeval Castle Knob in Derbyshire, England, was the site of a Cold War nuclear monitoring station?
  • Source: Date of foundation is unknown but likely 12th century and certainly before 14th century: "there is no documentary record for this site before the fourteenth century, and the date of construction is unknown. Nevertheless, from the present remains it appears to have been a motte-and-bailey construction and would be consistent with those constructed during King Stephen's reign" from: Boston, Hannah (2024). Lordship and Locality in the Long Twelfth Century. Boydell & Brewer. p. 82. ISBN 978-1-78327-783-4. and " Excluded from the scheduling are all perimeter fencing, the sheds and stable within the area of the north bailey, and the underground MOD installation in the central bailey although the ground beneath all these features except the MOD installation is included." from: "Castle Gresley motte and bailey castle, Castle Gresley - 1011209". Historic England. Retrieved 18 October 2024.; the plaque on the site makes it clear this is a Royal Observer Corps monitoring post
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 893 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 13:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 15:34, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 24

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Shuah Khan

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Created by AbdulRahim2002 (talk). Moved to mainspace by TParis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

paul2520 💬 13:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Linux Foundation Fellow Shuah Khan.
Linux Foundation Fellow Shuah Khan.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I added the photo to the DYK template as per the suggestion above. The QPQ was done by nominator paul2520. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1939 Liechtenstein general election

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Created by TheBritinator (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

TheBritinator (talk) 15:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Always nice to see small countries like Liechtenstein get decent coverage. Article looks good as a newly-promoted GA. AGF on the hook source. Appears good to go! BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 25

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Trisha Stafford-Odom

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Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 02:26, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: WikiOriginal-9, the article is detailed, well-written, and well-sourced. The use of eagles as a pun in the hook makes it interesting, and both sources support the claim. Earwig shows that it is copyvio free. QPQ done. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 15:11, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Every Night (Hannah Diamond song)

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  • ... that "Every Night", released ten years ago today, was called "the smartest dumb music out there"?
Created by Skyshifter (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

Skyshiftertalk 19:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great hook! Might be a good candidate for the last/quirky hook. Article is well-sourced with online references; I verified the claim in the hook. Prose is neutral and well-worded; Earwig shows no copyvio. If I had to offer a minor critique, there's a bit of redundancy in the first paragraph of the Composition section: described is used twice in a row, then compared three times, and said two times after that, to attribute critic opinions. Perhaps the word choice could be varied a bit (eg using "called it", "labeled it", or "noted its production was similar to"). Nonetheless, the article is certainly DYK level already even without those edits! Frostly (talk) 07:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lily Golden

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 61 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 18:02, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: This does have promise. It's new, of sufficient length, neutral, and well-sourced without plagiarism. However, I do feel the hooks could be rewritten to be clearer and more concise to be more interesting to a broad audience. Lazman321 (talk) 21:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lazman321: I added what should be enough clarity, but this is the clearest and shortest I could do without losing their hookiness.
Hope that help, ミラP@Miraclepine 23:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I'm in favor of ALT0B and ALT1C. Lazman321 (talk) 01:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Symonds St Public Conveniences and Former Tram Shelter

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Conveniences and Shelter after restoration in 2022
Conveniences and Shelter after restoration in 2022
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Moved to mainspace by TarnishedPath (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

TarnishedPathtalk 14:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Herbert Smith (mineralogist)

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  • ... that in 1927, museum administrator Herbert Smith hired a special train so that civil servants could watch a total solar eclipse in North Yorkshire?
  • Source: [17] ‘he arranged a special train to take members (of the society of civil servants) and other civil servants to Richmond, Yorkshire, to view the total eclipse of the sun in 1927’
  • ALT1: ... that gemmologist Herbert Smith had two minerals and a wallaby named after him? Source: Sources – herbertsmithite [18] 'named for GF Herbert Smith' smithite - [19] 'named for G F Herbert Smith] Herbert’s rock-wallaby (Petrogale herberti Thomas, O. 1926. On various animals obtained during Capt. Wilkin's expedition in Australia. Annals and Magazine of Natural History 9 17: 627 [June 1926]) ‘named in honour of G.F. Herbert Smith Assistant Secretary of the Museum’ (offline reference)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/E-Defense
5x expanded by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 21:51, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Chaiten1, review follows: article more than 5x expanded from 25 October and is well written; sources used are good with inline citations throughout; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing; hooks are interesting and largely check out to sources cited (I don't have access to the wallaby one but it is verifiable elsewhere eg here, the national archives link isn't working for me at the moment but I have supplemented it in the article with the Nature ref you've provided here); a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me. This is a solid traditional encyclopaedia article, really nice to see - Dumelow (talk) 08:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel Marseilles

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The Hotel Marseilles
The Hotel Marseilles
Created by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 682 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 15:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting building and history, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Before going for GA perhaps check for repetitions (the building, also). The image is licensed and a great illustration! None of the hooks is impossible. I prefer ALT2, but I think the "later" serves little purpose ;) - The "private rooms" of the first two are said by one writer to be for "some", - that's a bit too weak for my taste. I think "Holocaust" will create more interest than the specific people of ALT3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:04, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 26

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Ornithoprion

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A skeletal restoration of Ornithoprion
A skeletal restoration of Ornithoprion
Improved to Good Article status by Gasmasque (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Gasmasque (talk) 18:58, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article GA promotion new enough, and article long enough with full citations and neutral tone to prose. no copyvios or close paraphrasing detected in the writing, with 3 word groupings detected by earwig coming from specific terminology names and descriptors. I feel Alt0 is the strongest hook but I would suggest swapping radiography with x-rays.--Kevmin § 19:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Changed radiographs to X-rays, let me know if there are any further problems. I agree that Alt0 is probably the strongest hook, and it fits well with the given diagram of the skeleton. Gasmasque (talk) 17:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article GA'd, no detected close paraphrasing or copyvios in spot checking. Article fully cited and hooks verified to sourcing. ALT0 is approved with main page appropriate image. Good to go.--Kevmin § 17:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GeoNet (New Zealand)

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  • ... that people have tried drawing phalluses on the earthquake monitoring website GeoNet?
Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

―Panamitsu (talk) 03:43, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Length, date, qpq, close paraphrase check ok. But is there a possibility for a second reference for the hook fact? The notion that 'certain appendage' is to be understood as a dick requires a bit of reading between the lines, but the ref also talks about this as an one-off incident. --Soman (talk) 11:49, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm okay. I've had a look for another source but couldn't find one. Does this mean that I have to find another fact? I've at least changed the plurality of the hook to address that concern.
ALT1:
... that people have tried drawing a phallus on the earthquake monitoring website GeoNet?
―Panamitsu (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But still, we have one source saying that maybe someone once drew a dick using the platform. Unless there is another ref indicating that the trolling of the site would be a phenomenon, I'd suggest that another factoid be used for ALT hook. --Soman (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soman: Oh I'm getting confused. I'm not sure if you want me to change the pluralisation, or find a new fact. I'll do both.
ALT2:
"... that someone has tried drawing a phallus on the earthquake monitoring website GeoNet?"
ALT3:
"... that Aucklanders have a reputation for making false earthquake reports on New Zealand's earthquake monitoring website GeoNet?"
Source: https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/11-10-2024/whos-the-aucklander-who-claims-to-feel-every-earthquake-in-new-zealand
―Panamitsu (talk) 06:02, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks, apologies for the inconvenience. I'm ok with ALT3. --Soman (talk) 09:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 27

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Chiu Yuh-chuan

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  • ... that future Olympic weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan received a job offer in marketing after media coverage about his difficulty securing employment?
  • Source: "舉重國手邱毓川失業 北市一公司願提供工作機會" [Weightlifting Champion Chiu Yuh-chuan Unemployed: A Company in Taipei Offers Job Opportunity]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1984-07-11. p. 10.

    The above source was published on 11 July 1984. Chiu Yuh-chuan competed in the 1984 Summer Olympics, which took place between 28 July and 12 August 1984. The article notes:

    屏東縣唯一入選一九八四年奧運國家代表隊的舉重國手邱毓川，五次打破全國紀錄獲頒多面中正體育獎章，但自省立體專畢業迄今一年多卻苦於一職難求，經報導後，台北市慶宜股份有限公司深表同情，昨日特打長途電話到本報屏東採訪辦事處，表示願主動提供工作機會，解決邱毓川就職問題，熱忱感人。

    台北市慶宜貿易有限公司進口科長李聰哲在電話中表示，該公司經營多種商品貿易，為一頗具規模公司，因閱報獲知舉重國手邱毓川一職難求困境，基於為國家培育選手立場，願提供推廣企劃工作機會，除每月待遇一萬八千元左右外，并有業績獎金制度，只要邱毓川願意屈就，該公司竭誠歡迎。

    From Google Translate:

    Chiu Yuh-chuan, the only national weightlifter from Pingtung County to be selected for the 1984 Olympics national team, broke national records five times and was awarded multiple Chiang Kai-shek Sports Medals. However, it has been more than a year since he graduated from the provincial three-dimensional college and he has been struggling to find a job. After reports, Taipei City Qingyi Co., Ltd. expresses its deep sympathy. Yesterday, it made a long-distance call to the Pingtung office of this newspaper to interview and expressed its willingness to proactively provide job opportunities to solve Chiu Yuh-chuan's employment problem. The enthusiasm was touching.

    Li Congzhe, the import section chief of Taipei City Qingyi Trading Co., Ltd., said on the phone that the company is engaged in the trade of a variety of commodities and is a large-scale company. After reading the newspaper, he learned that the national weightlifter Chiu Yuh-chuan was in a difficult position. Based on the stance of cultivating athletes for the country, The company is willing to provide marketing and planning work opportunities. In addition to a monthly salary of about 18,000 yuan, there is also a performance bonus system. As long as Chiu Yuh-chuan is willing to give in, the company wholeheartedly welcomes him.

Created by Cunard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 86 past nominations.

Cunard (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Expanded day before DYK, from 138 to 5600, and article is up to snuff. All the sources but SR are offline so I'll AGF; that reminds me... Cunard, kudos to you for expanding a PRODed stub with sourcing that can't be reached easily. I recommend fixing the lede by blending in the info about his Olympic career so that it looks less like the cookie-cutter stub it originally was or adding an ALT1 showing that he was still looking for work post-Olympics even after the pre-Olympics job offer, but consider this optional. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:08, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amalric of Nesle

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Amalric divorces Agnes
Amalric divorces Agnes
  • ... that Patriarch Amalric was snubbed at the royal court because of his role in a royal divorce (pictured)?
  • Source: Hamilton (1980) p. 76
5x expanded by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 184 past nominations.

Surtsicna (talk) 22:44, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Surtsicna, review follows: article well in excess of 5x expanded from 27 October; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable offline sources; happy to AGF there are no copyright violations from these sources, the Earwig check is fine; hooks check out to the source cited (from Google Preview at least), for ALT0 I have amended "divorce" to "annulment of a royal marriage" as there is a difference; a QPQ has been carried out. Image needs a US PD copyright tag but is undoubtedly in the public domain, if you can address this and check you are happy with the amendment to ALT0 I should be able to approve - Dumelow (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tag added! I am not quite happy with the amendment, Dumelow, because it does not flow or catch attention nearly as well as "royal divorce"; and while divorce and annulment are different things in modern law, in the Middle Ages the annulment was the divorce, and indeed historians of the Middle Ages use the terms interchangeably, "divorce" even more commonly. See the source for this hook, for example. Surtsicna (talk) 18:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Surtsicna. Fair enough, thanks for the explanation. I have returned ALT0 to its original wording and am happy to leave the final decision up to the promoter - Dumelow (talk) 19:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zhou Houkun

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Zhou in 1914
Zhou in 1914
  • ... that Zhou Houkun (pictured) wrote a thesis on the use of bamboo to reinforce concrete?
Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 00:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

The Crystal (tabloid)

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  • ... that The Crystal was one of few publications in early 20th-century China to regularly cover same-sex intimacy?
  • Source: Kang, Wenqing (2006). Male Same-Sex Relations in China, 1900–1950 (PhD thesis). University of California, Santa Cruz. p. 169. ProQuest 305350088. "In China during the first half of the twentieth century, many newspapers circulated in big cities, but only Crystal in Shanghai and Heavenly Wind in Tianjin regularly had discussions and stories about same-sex relations. "
  • ALT1: ... that The Crystal contained regular coverage of Shanghai's courtesans? Source: Hershatter, Gail (1999). Dangerous Pleasures: Prostitution and Modernity in Twentieth-Century Shanghai. Berkeley: University of California Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-520-20439-3. "Perhaps the most famous of the tabloids was Crystal (in Chinese, jingbao), published every three days beginning in 1919 for more than two decades. Crystal overlapped with the guidebooks in content, but devoted a great deal of column space to tracking relationships between courtesans and the city’s elite, as well as personality quirks and quarrels among courtesans, business successes or reversals, reminiscences about famous courtesans of earlier times, and lists of courtesan-house names and phone numbers."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tore Skeie
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 699 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:58, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: On good faith. As this contains sources not accessible by internet. 184.153.21.19 (talk) 02:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 28

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Taurus 09

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Roping exercises during Taurus 09
Roping exercises during Taurus 09
  • ... that Taurus 09 (exercise pictured) was the largest Royal Navy deployment in more than ten years?
  • Source: "Joining Alpha Company, 40 Commando Royal Marines, he took part in numerous exercises, most notably TAURUS 09, the largest Royal Naval deployment in over 10 years," from: "Marine Scott Gregory Taylor killed in Afghanistan". British Government. Retrieved 9 October 2024.
  • ALT1: ... that the Royal Navy's Taurus 09 deployment (exercise pictured) was featured in the TV series Warship? Source: "Visitors included the former and present First Sea Lords, Admiral Band and Stanhope respectively, a film crew from Granada TV producing the next series of Warship for channel 5" from: "A new experience for so many of us". Navy News. September 2009. p. 4.
  • ALT2: ... that as part of the Royal Navy's Taurus 09 deployment sailors from HMS Somerset rowed the length of the Suez Canal? Source: "on the way home through Suez, 81 Somerset officers and sailors 'rowed' the canal, each one rowing two kilometres as quickly as they could, achieving the distance in a total of 10 hours 40 minutes" from: "A new experience for so many of us". Navy News. September 2009. p. 4.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Herbert Smith (mineralogist)
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 897 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 12:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral, hook interesting and cited to a reliable source. QPQ done as required. No copyvio issues. Image is relevant, used in the article, is freely licensed, and is clear at a diminished size. JuniperChill (talk) 23:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trilobite Wilderness

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Sign welcoming visitors to the area
Sign welcoming visitors to the area
Created by Blervis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Blervis (talk) 04:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • This is a newly created article, which is well referenced, long enough and passes copyvio. The hooks check out; ALT0 is intriguing, to the point and validated by the source (AMNH). QPQ is not required. The image is appropriate and has the correct permissions. This is a nice self-contained page, and I shall add it my bucket list of places to visit! Chaiten1 (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nayib Bukele

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Nayib Bukele in 2019
Nayib Bukele in 2019
Improved to Good Article status by PizzaKing13 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 09:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Wu Tsai-fu

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  • ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu was unable to generate urine for a drug test so drank six huge glasses of beer to help him urinate?
  • Source: "世界杯舉重賽花絮 吳再富灌酒逼尿 大醉一場" [Highlights from the Weightlifting World Cup: Wu Tsai-fu Forced to Drink Beer to Urinate, Ends Up Drunk]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). 1991-10-05. p. 2.

    The article notes:

    驗尿也會酒醉？信不信由你，這次世界杯，只要成績還可以，尤其是男選手，一達到明年巴塞隆納奧運選拔標準，鐵定被「點名」接受禁藥測試，採取的方法就是「驗尿」。

    中華隊第4級選手吳再富，出賽當天挺舉未完，就被通知驗尿，不知是緊張？還是排汗旺盛，怎麼尿也尿不出來，無法交差。

    最後逼得沒辦法，只有強灌啤酒，向來不喝酒的吳再富這下可吃足了苦頭，在連續喝下6大杯後才排尿，大功告成之餘，他人也醉了，必須勞動隊友攙扶，才能回到選手村。

    From a translation:

    Can you be drunk during a urine test? Believe it or not, at this World Cup, as long as the performance is acceptable—especially for male athletes—if they meet the qualification standards for next year’s Barcelona Olympics, they are guaranteed to be "called in" for drug testing, which involves urine tests.

    On the day of the competition, Wu Tsai-fu, a Level 4 athlete from the Chinese team, was notified to take a urine test even before finishing his lifts. Whether it was nerves or excessive sweating, he found himself unable to produce any urine.

    In the end, with no other options, he had to resort to drinking beer. Not typically a drinker, Wu suffered significantly, and after downing six large glasses, he finally managed to urinate. However, he ended up drunk and had to rely on teammates to help him back to the athletes' village.

  • ALT1: ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu drank six huge glasses of beer to help himself urinate for a drug test? Source: Same as the first hook.
  • ALT2: ... that the weightlifter Wu Tsai-fu set nearly 20 national records? Source: He, Chang-fa 何長發 (1997-07-14). "大雞慢啼 吳再富揚州償宿願" [Late Bloomer: Wu Tsai-fu Fulfills His Dream in Yangzhou]. Min Sheng Bao (in Chinese). p. 2.

    The article notes: "吳再富十四歲首次參加舉重賽以來，先後打破全國紀錄將近二十次，但在亞洲大賽奪牌這還是第一次，算是「大雞慢啼」的老選手。"

    From a translation: "Wu Tsai-fu has broken national records nearly twenty times since he first participated in a weightlifting competition at the age of fourteen, but this is the first time he has won a medal in an Asian competition, and he can be regarded as a veteran player of "Late Bloomer"."

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zhou Houkun
5x expanded by Cunard (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 85 past nominations.

Cunard (talk) 05:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Page was 5x expanded recently enough, is long enough, the hook is interesting and quite funny, and QPQ has been done. I think that ALT1 is preferable because it's more concise. I'm going to AGF on the Chinese sourcing. Overall, seems good! Di (they-them) (talk) 23:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 29

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Peel's Cut

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Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 898 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 17:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I updated the caption in the article to clarify the direction. You need to add the reference to the end of Alt1's sentance. I prefer Alt1 to Alt0. Used Earwig with no issues. Otherwise looked good! dm (talk) 01:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi dm, sorry I missed this while I was away. I have duplicated the ref to the sentence in the article talking about the closure of the mill for ALT1 - Dumelow (talk) 16:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Dumelow - thanks for updating. I've cleared all the objections - looks like you're good to go. dm (talk) 05:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

God of Amiens

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Head of the God of Amiens
Head of the God of Amiens
  • ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) has a protruding animal ear?
  • ALT1: ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) seems to have lost his serpent? Source: Mahéo, Noël (1990). "136. Statuette d'une divinité à l'oreille de cervidé". In Viéville, Dominic (ed.). Les collections archéologiques du musée de Picardie. Vol. 1. Amiens: Trois Cailloux. p. 236. ISBN 978-2-402-42576-6.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shunten
  • Comment: ALT1 is fun, but you might rightly reject it since it relies on a reconstruction, put forth by Lerat, of the statuette as once holding a serpent and grapes. To my knowledge nobody has rejected this reconstruction (Mahéo and Deonna explicitly concur) but it is just a reconstruction.
Created by Tenpop421 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

Tenpop421 (talk) 23:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • date, length, hook, close paraphrase check, qpq checks out. Image free on Commons. ALT1 would require a bit of rewording, something on the lines of "seems to have lost" etc. --Soman (talk) 22:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Edited ALT1 to reflect this. Thanks! Tenpop421 (talk) 23:30, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I Hotel (novel)

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  • ... that novelist Karen Tei Yamashita realized the structure of her novel, I Hotel, by cutting, folding, and writing on ten cardboard cubes, each representing a year in the book?
  • Source: ... so instead she went home and cut out 10 pieces of cardboard, which she scored and folded into cubes: one for each year leading up to the hotel’s destruction. Each cube was inscribed with precise indicators, one per side—a year paired with a world-historical event, a location in the Bay Area paired with a location abroad, a theme, and three characters, composites from her interviews and her imagination.
Source: The Nation (https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/ihotel-novel-karen-tei-yamashita-review/)
    • Reviewed:
Created by Phibeatrice (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Phibeatrice (talk) 01:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi @Phibeatrice: This article, created on 29 October, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral, and presentable. Earwig picked up no copyvio and I didn't see any close paraphrase. QPQ does not need to be done. The hook, which I trimmed a little bit going in, is interesting and cited. The hook might need a little more editing (the phrase "cutting, folding, and writing on ten cardboard cubes" is a little unwieldy, but I'm not sure how to improve it) but, as it is, I think the article is good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carrlyn Bathe

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Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Will be claiming this for review and hope to get to it soon. Among the two hooks, ALT1 is probably the more unusual or interesting once since it's less reliant on NHL knowledge (and thus specialist knowledge), although I would suggest also putting "sports broadcaster" before her name. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and I didn't find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been completed. Both hooks are cited inline and verified (I am accepting the use of Facebook and Twitter as the FB link is the official Kings page and the Twitter link is her own, so meets the guidelines at WP:SPS). As mentioned above, the second hook is the better hook as it's less reliant on familiarity with the NHL or ice hockey. Good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miracle in Motown

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Improved to Good Article status by Gonzo fan2007 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 48 past nominations.

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Overall, hook and article meet all criteria for DYK, no reason not to approve. JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St Francis of Assisi Church, Notting Hill

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Created by Cardofk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Cardofk (talk) 17:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks great! Very fun hook. Great article, thank you for writing it! ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 21:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 30

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Boise Pro Soccer

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Created by SounderBruce (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 240 past nominations.

SounderBruce 22:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article passes for newness and length (although on the shorter side, it passes the 1500 bytes test). Article is sourced and neutral throughout and plagiarism-free. Hook is interesting and cited (reviewing from Europe so blocked from viewing the source within this nomination, but can verify the details from other sources within the article). QPQ done. This one is good to go! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Piri Reis

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statue
Statue of Piri Reis
  • ... that there was limited appreciation for Piri Reis' cartography during his own life?
    • Source: Soucek, Svat (2013). "His uniqueness among cartographers and hydrographers of the Renaissance". Cartes & Géomatique. No. 216. pp. 135–144. Arrested by the Ottoman governor of Egypt, Piri Reis was executed in 1553 in compliance with an order issued from the imperial headquarters. The sultan probably never recalled – if in fact he ever noticed it – that the aged mariner had at the time of his enthronement dedicated a book called Kitabı Bahriye to him, and that still earlier he had made a strange map whose mutilated remains lay forgotten in the library of Topkapı Palace. [...] Piri Reis and his work occupy a special place in the framework of the exhibition "L'Age d'or des cartes marines: Quand l'Europe découvrait le monde". They show that although the Ottoman Empire had the potential to participate in the discoveries, its ruling elite spurned the attempt to blaze a trail in this direction made by a representative of a marginal group whose other members too ran into dead ends. [...] Piri Reis ran into a dead end as a cartographer [...]
    • ALT1: ... that Piri Reis transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
    • ALT2: ... that Piri Reis advocated for and took part in Suleiman the Magnificent's 1522 Siege of Rhodes?
      • Source: Soucek, Svatopluk (2004). "Navals Aspects of the Ottoman Conquests of Rhodes, Cyprus and Crete". Studia Islamica (98/99): 222. ISSN 0585-5292. JSTOR 20059216. 6. It was one of these gazi-corsairs, Kemal Reis, who suggested repeatedly to Beyazit II that he embark on conquests of potential bases on Rhodes and the Peloponnese, and offered expert advice on how to do it. This was recorded by Kemal Reis's nephew Piri Reis in his Kitab-i bahriye, a book of sailing directions for the Mediterranean compiled in two versions, the first in 1520 and the second in 1526. Advice on how to conquer Rhodes is included, understandably, only in the first version.
      • İnan, Afet; Yolaç, Leman (trans.) (1954). The Oldest Map of America, Drawn by Piri Reis. Ankara: Türk Tarih Kurumu Basimevi. p. 14. OCLC 2435662. Piri's taking part in the Turkish fleet going to the campaign on Rhodes in 1523 is to be regarded as only natural.
      • Source: The context in the end-of-paragraph source makes the above more clear → Isom-Verhaaren, Christine (2022). The Sultan's fleet: seafarers of the Ottoman empire (First published ed.). London New York Oxford New Delhi Sydney: I.B. Tauris. p. 101. ISBN 978-0-7556-4173-4. Also, Kemal Reis or, in actuality, Piri Reis offered this advice to the sultan clearly noting that any plans would be contingent on the sultan's approval. No plan of conquest would be followed unless the sultan was convinced of its feasibility or benefit to the empire. Kemal or Piri also advised against allowing some individuals to consider themselves too important to be required to bring a bag of dirt to help construct a fortress on Kumburnu. Kemal and/or Piri warned against the pretensions of the elite, who considered themselves superior to the men who would be recruited to implement this plan. The conflict between the administrative elite and seafarers echoes throughout this advice.
    • ALT3: ... that Piri Reis did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Albright
    • Comment: There are some photos of sculptures of Piri Reis (like File:Piri reis.jpg) but so far as I know, no likeness was made during his lifetime. ALT3 summarizes the "Legacy" section, but this may be stretching things too much.
Improved to Good Article status by Rjjiii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

Rjjiii (talk) 06:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New GA, very well written and referenced article. Did some minor tweaks, but otherwise it looks fine, QPQ has been done and I see nothing standing in the way of this going forward. From the hooks, ALT3 would be the most interesting, followed in my personal view by ALT1. Question to the nominator, Rjjiii, why not include an image of Piri in the DYK nomination? It would help to ensure greater visibility. Constantine ✍ 19:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Cplakidas: the statues, paintings, stamps, currency, and so on with his likeness were all made after his death. If that's not a big deal, I'll add two alternative versions of the preferred hooks below and an image to the DYK.
      • ALT1a: ... that Piri Reis (statue pictured) transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
      • ALT3a: ... that Piri Reis (statue pictured) did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
    • Also, the tweaks are much appreciated, Rjjiii (talk) 02:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Altan

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  • Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 168–169.
  • ALT1: ... that although the details of Al-Altan's 1246 execution were censored, an unintentional slip in a chronicle reveals who killed her? Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188.
  • ALT2: ... that although Eljigidei was originally rewarded for killing the Mongol princess Al-Altan, he was later hunted down and executed in revenge? Source: For his reward, Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188; for his death, pp. 220–221.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diaspora Revolt (2nd nomination)
Improved to Good Article status by AirshipJungleman29 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 10:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article is new enough (GA passed on 30 October 2024), is long enough (8743 characters of prose), has no copyright violations (per GA review), and is presentable (per GA review and readthrough). The hook is cited to a reliable offline source (accepted in good faith) and interesting. ALT1 is too complicated and ALT2 centers around her executor. QPQ was done. – Editør (talk) 11:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Valse in A minor (Chopin)

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Manuscript in the Morgan Library & Museum
Manuscript in the Morgan Library & Museum
  • ... that the discovery of a new waltz by Chopin (pictured) has been announced by The New York Times?
Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 66 past nominations.

Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough, long enough and well-written. The hook is good and supported by an inline citation to a reliable source (in fact, the rediscovery has been reported quite widely in civilised media). QPQ has been made and copyright tag of the image is fine. There should be no problems. One thing to watch out for before promoting would perhaps be if there are any major updates to the article between the review and the posting, considering it is a bit of a developing story. Nice article, great piece for DYK. Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regulus (painting)

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Regulus
Regulus
  • ... that a man stabbed the painting Regulus (pictured) because he disliked the "misty state of the picture"?
Created by CitrusHemlock (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

CitrusHemlock 13:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi CitrusHemlock, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 30 October and far exceeds minimum length; it is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable (largely offline) sources; I didn't pick up on any issues with overly close paraphrasing; image is obviously magnificent and PD by virtue of age; no QPQ is required as nominator has only one prior DYK credit; ALT01 is stated in the article and checks out to source cited. I have struck ALT1 as the article states there is doubt that Regulus himself appears in the piece and ALT2 as the article only says that "Gilbert claims" the driving in of the paint was done. Happy to consider alternative hooks if you want to suggest any? - Dumelow (talk) 14:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dumelow: Thanks for reviewing the nom so quickly! I was a bit sloppy with the phrasing of the ALTs, the first could probably be rephraised to "...that the painting Regulus is based on a Roman general who was blinded by the sun?" and the second "...that J. M. W. Turner reportedly repainted Regulus by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas?" Regardless, the stabbing is the most compelling hook in my opinion, but any of them would work well. CitrusHemlock 17:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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1983 Spanish floods

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Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations. Valenciano (talk) 17:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Valenciano article is new enough and long enough; I can verify the fact from the source cited; I am not familiar with Spanish sources but they look to be newspapers or similar so happy to AGF they are reliable; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources. Couple of queries on sourcing: I couldn't see in the source cited where it said 5 people were left missing and there is no source for the 150 billion pesata cost - Dumelow (talk) 16:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, looks OK to me. The hook could potentially benefit from a little work to avoid repetition of "Spanish ... Spain ... Spanish" but I don't have a better suggestion at the moment - Dumelow (talk) 21:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New World Mall

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New World Mall
New World Mall
  • Source: 1
Created by Morgan695 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 167 past nominations.

Morgan695 (talk) 16:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: Interesting and well-sourced article. No copyright problems. It is new and long enough. Both hooks are interesting (I suspect ALT1 may be more timely). Waiting on the QPQ... —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CurryTime7-24: QPQ has been completed. Morgan695 (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: Were there any additional outstanding issues, or is this good to be promoted? Morgan695 (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Morgan695: Nothing at all! Thanks for your great work! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mountain Landscape

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Created by Viriditas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

Viriditas (talk) 06:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hook is interesting, good to go. Sahaib (talk) 23:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Burrito Express

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Burrito Express in 2024
Burrito Express in 2024
  • ... that the founder of Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, styled himself as the "king of the flying burrito"?
Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: You are burying the lede. Why is Burrito Express called the "king of the flying burrito"? Because they used to run a mail order business that shipped frozen burritos across the U.S. That's your best and most interesting hook. But it's not here. Everything else checks out. Pass ALT0 as first choice, followed by ALT2. I do not support ALT3 as it breaches the bright line of contentiousness, and I don't support ALT1 because "threatened with closure" is too ambiguous and makes it seem like there's a negative component to it when it is just the nature of the business environment during COVID, not the quality of their food. Viriditas (talk) 04:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for reviewing. I'd appreciate it if you could be more specific as to what the shortcomings are so that I may remedy them. Are you asking me to contextualize ALT0 by mentioning the mail order business? I had thought about it, but was worried it would make the hook too long. If you feel this is necessary, however, please let me know and I will provide a modified hook. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sorry—I totally misread your review. You're right, it slipped my mind to make a hook based on their mail order business. Please give me until tomorrow morning (PDT) and I'll have a new hook ready for you! Thanks again. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Viriditas: Thank you for your patience. Been busy recently! A couple more ALTs for your consideration.
ALT4: ... that Burrito Express' mail order business was so successful, its owner styled himself the "king of the flying burrito"? (Source: [26])
ALT5: ... that Burrito Express began shipping out its burritos by mail because of demand from former customers who had moved away from California? (Source: Ibid.) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like ALT4, ALT5, followed by ALT0 and ALT2. I will let the prepper decide. Viriditas (talk) 02:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24 and Viriditas: ALT4's the best one, but the source doesn't really say that the style was because of the company's success. In fact, it doesn't even say that the company's successful, although its gross revenue is high. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron: I agree with your assessment. Let's go with ALT5, or combine ALT5 and ALT4 as I originally suggested in my review, without the "so successful" bit. In other words: " ... that Burrito Express began shipping burritos by mail due to demand from former customers who had moved, leading the owner to describe himself as the "king of the flying burrito"? Viriditas (talk) 08:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Issue resolved below, 01:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC) I don't think the image can be freely licensed by the photographer since the business would own the copyright to the sign. No objections to promoting without an image, Rjjiii (talk) 17:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen DYKs with images that include business signs and logos (such as this, this, and this one). Is it because the image focuses exclusively on the sign? There is another image I added to the article a couple of days ago with the sign off to the side in a wider shot of the restaurant front patio. Would that be acceptable for the DYK? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: the copyright rules in the United States are arbitrarily different for a building that you can go inside of and a free-standing sculpture or sign. Give me a moment, and I'll find some links, Rjjiii (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: Here are some links: on Commons, FoP on Commons, the legal exceptions for buildings, and an explanation about buildings. A photograph that focuses mostly on the building will not have the same issue because you can go inside of the building. The exceptions to copyright law for buildings in public spaces don't apply to 2D signs or to 3D sculptures unless they are integrated into the design of the building. Rjjiii (talk) 20:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. So I'm still confused. According to Commons, "detailed informational and educational noticeboards/signs" are unacceptable as they are almost always copyright protected. Would the Burrito Express sign qualify as such a sign? The information it imparts appears to be generic and, at least to me, not detailed at all. I appreciate your answers and patience. At any rate, I'm happy as long as the DYK runs, with or without photo, but just want clarification for the future. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: you might get a more informed answer at Commons, but I imagine the sign's doodle is the kind of "graphic image" that would clearly give it copyright protection. In the US, I think the legal bar is sufficiently creative, which is fairly low. A larger-scale photo like the one in the article where the doodle is just a minor bit is likely fine (De_minimis#Copyright). Rjjiii (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjjiii: Can we use this image instead? Viriditas (talk) 00:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: yes, I don't see an issue with that one, Rjjiii (talk) 00:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjjiii: Thank you, I've replaced it with the approval of the legendary CurryTime7-24.[27] Can we get your tickmark going forward? Viriditas (talk) 00:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: yes, and concern struck above, Rjjiii (talk) 01:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

6th National Eucharistic Congress (United States)

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Pilgrims outside of St. Cecilia Cathedral during the closing procession
Pilgrims outside of St. Cecilia Cathedral during the closing procession
Moved to mainspace by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has 4 past nominations.

User:Darth Stabro (talk) 00:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate

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Created by Viriditas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 30 past nominations.

Viriditas (talk) 04:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting painting, covered well and detailed on fine sources, subscription sources accepted AGF. I am less happy with the hook. My understanding - which of course may be wrong - is not that they found it too modern, but that they thought those who had bought it earlier should have found it too modern, which is a completely different thing. I would prefer to get a bit more info in the hook about the subject than "a 1914 painting" - painter, style, subject, whatever. The title alone didn't prepare me for the beautiful thing I saw, and the hook would not have made me look, - it was your name that hooked me ;) - If you still want that hook, I'll approve it, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: This controversy is covered by the NYT,[30] so I won't go into it too much here other than to say that this subject, American Impressionist Childe Hassam (1859–1935), was called "conservative to the core" by New Yorker art critic Peter Schjeldahl in 2004, and that is the accepted opinion by art historians. To address this slightly further, Hassam embraced an older, antiquated kind of modernism dating to about the 1870s, which represented the art of the generation before him. Ironically by the time the American art world accepted Hassam as status quo, perhaps by the time of the Armory Show of 1913 or thereabouts, the time of the American Impressionists had come and gone. Hassam was on record expressing his extreme displeasure at the ascendancy of the new Cubism, so his conservativsm as an artist was well known. I won't go into Hassam's social conservatism, as there is quite a bit written on that subject, similar to that of Renoir, and it's somewhat separate from his conservative approach to art. The quirky nature of the hook is centered around a 110-year-old painting by an artist who vocally objected to the trajectory of modern art in 1913 and yet was considered "too modern" by Valparaiso University in 2024 based on a specious legal argument that hinges on the definition and interpretation of "conservative" art, a definition that is disputed by art historians and legal experts. I should like to add one final thing: while writing a series of articles about this topic, I found that the legal argument made by Valparaiso University doesn't hold up based on the history of art. It turns out that the techniques and philosophy found in the Hudson River School, attributed to its founder Thomas Cole, which forms the underlying basis of Valparaiso's argument that Hassam's work is too modern to be included in the university collection, are in fact, almost identical to the working technique and philosophy of Childe Hassam. I laughed out loud when I realized this (and I think I woke up my neighbors at 2 AM) because it means Valparaiso's case should never have been approved by the courts. It turns out that Hassam used the same technique that Cole talks about in the 1840s and 1850s. This involves "creating compositions of both representational and imaginative landscapes, where the artist creates a fusion of what is both in the natural world and in the mind on the canvas". Hassam famously did this throughout his career, most notably in the painting Point Lobos, Carmel (1914) to such an extent, that the artist he was working with, Francis McComas (1874-1938), had a fit and complained to his wife about Hassam's conservative, anti-modernist approach, and the incident made its way into the history books. To summarize: I think it's possible you missed the point I was making. With that said, I am open to creating new hooks as always. Viriditas (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, to respond to the comment in your edit history, no, it's not supposed to be inside baseball, and if it comes off that way, it definitely needs a new hook. I will present others to choose from, but it doesn't look like you'll be around. I can make a request on DYK to have others look. Viriditas (talk) 08:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Annie Huggett

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  • ... that as a teenager in the 1900s, Annie Huggett organised suffragette meetings at her local pub?
  • Source: "Annie Huggett was born Annie Clara French in Halstead, Essex, in 1892 ... Though Annie was never arrested, she was very much part of the suffragette movement, and organised meetings for the cause in the former George Inn in Barking Broadway – known then as the Three Lamps – when she was just 18." from: Hedges-Stocks, Zoah (21 September 2016). "Post Memories: Women's centre named after Barking suffragette Annie Huggett". Barking and Dagenham Post. Retrieved 28 October 2024.
  • ALT1: ... that at 103 years old, Annie Huggett was the oldest surviving suffragette at the time of her 1996 death? Source: "Annie was proud to be both the country’s oldest surviving suffragette and the longest card-carrying member of the Labour Party. ,,, The Red Flag was sung at Annie’s funeral in 1996 when she was laid to rest in Rippleside Cemetery." from the same source
  • ALT2: ... that because of her republican beliefs, Annie Huggett's family hid from her the telegram sent by Elizabeth II to mark a British person's 100th birthday? Source: "He last saw Annie in May 1992 on her 100th birthday and remembers two cards being pride of place on her mantelpiece – one was from the Labour Party, the other was from Barking Town FC ... He said both were very important to her – but there was one birthday message that certainly wasn’t on display: her message from the Queen. When Gerry asked Annie’s daughter about its whereabouts he was told that they had hidden it for fear of offending her as she was a lifelong and staunch republican." from the same source
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Johnny Fripp
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 899 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 08:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

David Hilchen

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Created by Yakikaki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 143 past nominations.

Yakikaki (talk) 15:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting life and work, on few but fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the interesting short hook! I have a few wishes for the article: 1) give him an infobox, or it looks as if it was an article about a coat of arms, 2) avoid "would" - everything is now past, 3) bring the refs above the cited sources - no idea why German and others have it differently, but in English, that's normal, 4) formal the one source that's not yet among Cited sources like the others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...though upon reflection, in this case you're right, an infobox makes the coat of arms look less awkward. Added. Thanks again Gerda! Yakikaki (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur France

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  • ... that Arthur France founded the first West Indian carnival in Europe?
  • Source: ref 5 (url:https://lucas.leeds.ac.uk/article/the-leeds-west-indian-carnival-is-fifty) 'The Carnival in Leeds reached its fiftieth consecutive performance in August 2017, proudly maintaining its original title: The Leeds West Indian Carnival (LWIC). It was the first Caribbean-style street carnival in Europe' .. 'Nevis-born Arthur France ... pulled together the committee that created the early carnivals in Leeds'
Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 20:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new, long enough and neutral. It is sourced with inline citations. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports no crucial text similarities commenting "violation unlikely". Both hooks are well-formatted and interesting.Their length is within limit. They are accurate with reference given inline. QPQ was done. Good to go. CeeGee 10:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Capaldi

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Capaldi at the 2019 GalaxyCon Richmond
Capaldi at the 2019 GalaxyCon Richmond
Improved to Good Article status by OlifanofmrTennant (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Light Vessel 93

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Light Vessel 93
Light Vessel 93
  • ... that Light Vessel 93 (pictured) was converted into a photography studio?
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 900 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 16:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Dumelow, nice work on this article. Do you still want to run this as a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, because that nomination has already been reviewed? Epicgenius (talk) 01:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Epicgenius, I am happy for them to run separately. Was just putting the option out there as there is usually a backlog of approved hooks - Dumelow (talk) 09:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All right, then. My previous approval is unchanged. Epicgenius (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)

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Created by Tokisaki Kurumi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 09:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hook is interesting and true,

I made a small copy edit but beyond that the content is fine, earwig has less then 10% overlap. QPQ not need congrats on your first DYK! Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant: Thanks! But it seems the DYK template not working well? ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 18:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Patrick J. Ryan (chaplain)

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Chaplain Ryan, c. 1937
Chaplain Ryan, c. 1937
Improved to Good Article status by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 00:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article promoted to GA on 3 November; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources in a spot check; hook fact is interesting, stated in article and supported by citations (I note one source says "almost 10,000" and one says "more than 10,000" so I think you are OK just stating 10,000); a QPQ has been carried out; my only query is on the image: do you have confirmation that it is a work of a US military person, I couldn't see anything in the source? It is likely to be the case but we should confirm - Dumelow (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Howdy Dumelow, the photographer is a historical researcher and I can't imagine where else it would be from other than an official photo; however you're right, it's not 100%, and I don't have the time to try to confirm it this week - probably best to do it without the photo. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 14:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Darth Stabro, no worries. Happy to approve to run without image - Dumelow (talk) 14:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Codex Monacensis (X 033)

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Improved to Good Article status by Stephen Walch (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Stephen Walch (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Stephen: this article, promoted to GA on November 1, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio or close paraphrase. Hook sourced, short enough, and interesting. QPQ does not need to be done. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 02:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Gregory, Caspar René (1900). Textkritik des Neuen Testaments. Vol. 1. Leipzig: J.C. Hinrichs. pp. 82–83.

Apricot dress of Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy

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Kennedy in her apricot dress March 1962
Kennedy in her apricot dress March 1962
  • Reviewed: Viriamo
  • Comment: Would appreciate comments from Philafrenzy if possible
Created by Whispyhistory (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 202 past nominations.

Whispyhistory (talk) 18:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting dress, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the hook, but suggest to drop "Bouvier" - she is better known as Jackie Kennedy - and to link zibeline as in the article. - The image is licensed and serves well as illustration of why this colour. For formality, you still have to add (pictured) to the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oscar Goodman (basketball)

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Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 366 past nominations.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • What's a "global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amer Ghalib

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Created by Sahaib (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

Sahaib (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 12:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review comments:

  • I don't see the support for the statement "A member of the Democratic Party, he worked with what was believed to be the first all-Muslim city council in the United States." in the newsweek reference. It should be referenced to the fox news website. I can't read the NY Times reference but AGF.
  • I don't see the support for the statement "Ghalib acknowledged their disagreements on key issues but that he believed that Trump would end the Israel–Hamas war." in the two references given
  • Earwig copyvio detector shows 13.0% - violation unlikely
  • @Sahaib: Overall very good. Just minor sourcing issues listed above. Please fix and I will approve. Dwkaminski (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dwkaminski: sorry about the sources, a lot were added by another user (see history). The Newsweek source states that he was a member of the Democratic Party whilst the New York Times sources the rest. The Newsweek sources states "acknowledging some disagreements with the former president" and in the New York Times it states that "President Biden’s support of Israel and a belief that Mr. Trump will end the conflict in the Middle East." You can view the source in its archived form. Sahaib (talk) 13:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sahaib: All good. approved! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on November 3

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Gail Damerow

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Created by Silver seren (talk) and Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 133 past nominations.

SilverserenC 01:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Interesting hook but slight problems that could be resolved before I can complete a final confirmation for it to be approved for DYK. Overall the article has no copyright problems and both the hooks are mentioned in the article. But the problem is related to how the hooks are mentioned in the article. As I see when it comes to ALT1, it mentions that ' that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet?. However in the article where the hook ('Awards and Honors') is mentioned, it just states 'described by The New York Times as the authoritative book on ice cream'. Hope you can fix this issue by adding more of the ALT1's fact here. The first hook is fine. So just fix the stated issue and after that I can give green light for your article for DYK. - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Toadboy123, do you mean the part of the hook on why the book was created? Because that's in the beginning of the Career section, with the source I gave above. SilverserenC 22:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Silver seren I suggest that you mention the hook also in the 'Awards and Honors' section so that readers can easily notice it when they read the article. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Toadboy123, I wasn't aware of that being a requirement for hooks? I've had a number of hooks that involved multiple parts of an article. And the info about the inspiration for the book doesn't really fit in an Awards section, particularly since it has to do with events in her life and where she was living. SilverserenC 22:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In that case, then the article is all good to go then. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fukushima nuclear accident

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The Town of Namie (population 21,000) was evacuated as a result of the accident.
The Town of Namie (population 21,000) was evacuated as a result of the accident.
  • ... that residents evacuated in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear accident were exposed to so little radiation that radiation-induced health effects are likely to be below detectable levels?
  • Source: "Outside the geographical areas most affected by radiation, even in locations within Fuku-

shima prefecture, the predicted risks remain low and no observable increases in cancer

above natural variation in baseline rates are anticipated" page 8: https://iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/78218/9789241505130_eng.pdf;jsessionid=5D2A9C6FCDE7BA3C9686CED940B05E3A?sequence=1
Improved to Good Article status by Czarking0 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Czarking0 (talk) 20:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Czarking0: I'll start by addressing WP:DYKNEW. This article last appeared at In the news on 12 April 2011, and the on this day on 11 March 2023. This was over one year ago, so it can go on the main page again.
The article recently became a good article so it is eligible for DYK. Earwig's is not working so i'll assume good faith when it comes to copyvios. QPQ not needed.
I'll review ALT0 (I think it is the most interesting). The hook matches the article.
I'm worried about the source for this hook because it is a preliminary report, which uses predictions of health effects rather than observations. It also doesn't say about the evacuations and also says In the highest dose location ... For leukaemia, the lifetime risks are predicted to increase by up to around 7% over baseline cancer rates in males exposed as infants However, a 2020 source says that No adverse health effects among Fukushima residents have been documented that are directly attributable to radiation exposure from the FDNPS accident. So I'll approve, with caution. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jiangwan Racecourse

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Jiangwan Racecourse
Jiangwan Racecourse
  • ... that the Jiangwan Racecourse (pictured) hosted horse races, a golf club, and prisoners of war?
  • Source: Sports facilities: Chen Yangyang (陈洋阳) (5 February 2016). 老上海体育建筑遗存：江湾跑马厅民国时期面貌考 参考网 [Remains of Old Shanghai Sports Buildings: A Study of the Appearance of the Jiangwan Racecourse during the Republic of China Period]. Sports Research (in Chinese). 4. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 3 November 2024 – via Back Issue Magazine Reading Platform and Reference Network.;
POWs: "China Marks Time Till Wu Succeeds or Fails". The China Weekly Review. Shanghai. 1 November 1924. pp. 290–291. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 702 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Chris Woodrich, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 3 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I am not familiar with all of the sources (particularly the none-English ones) but happy to AGF that they are all reliable; image looks to be PD (as was in public domain at URAA date); hooks facts are mentioned in the article and check out to source cited, my preference is probably for ALT0 as the connection between the aircraft landing and dismantling the railway is not obvious to the reader; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraprasing in a spotcheck and Earwig doesn't flag up any issues. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St John the Evangelist Church, Islington

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Front of St John's Church, Islington
Front of St John's Church, Islington
  • Source: Historic England. "Islington – St John the Evangelist". Taking Stock. Quote: "Pugin castigated the Romanesque Revival building as ‘the most original combination of modern deformity that has been executed for some time past’. In response, the design was defended by Joseph Hansom in The Builder."
  • Joseph Hansom. 1 April 1843. "The Present State of Ecclesiastical Architecture in England". The Builder Volume 1, page 98. Quote: "This church, so far from exhibiting the adoption of true Catholic principles, which we have had so much pleasure in describing at Masbro’, is certainly the most original combination of modern deformity that has been erected for some time past for the sacred purpose of a Catholic church," and, "And now, we tell our readers that this new church of Islington, which Mr. Scoles has built, and which Mr. Pugin insists he ought not to have built, and which he has done no little damage to by his strictures, depriving it of the contribution of many whose purses yield more to dictation in such matters than to reason or to judgment; this church of Mr. Scoles is withal a fine and noble church."
  • Denis Evinson, Catholic Churches of London, Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press, 1998, page 140. Quote: "Scoles's neo-Norman design was severely castigated by Pugin in The Dublin review, in which he called for a rebuilding of Islington's mediaeval Gothic church. Joseph Hansom, however, powerfully defended Scoles's church in the pages of The Builder, of which he was then editor, pointing out that Catholicism had other 'beautiful forms, styles and adaptations in store for us."
Created by Cardofk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

Cardofk (talk) 21:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Cardofk, nice work on this article. Review follows: article created 3 November and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources (though I usually avoid British Listed Buildings as it is a mirror of the Historic England listing; I didn't pick up on any paraphrasing issues; hook fact is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to sources cited; image is freely licensed; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, very good point, thanks for spotting it, I really should have linked to the Reformation at the beginning. Will do. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Robertson

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Moved to mainspace by SafariScribe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Robertson entertains her doctors". UCT News. 4 May 2010. Retrieved 3 November 2024.

Abu Sulayman Da'ud

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  • Source: "Abu Sulayman worked for the king for a while, even treating his son Baldwin's leprosy..." Zimo p. 158 "He also engaged Abul’Khair, Abu Sulayman’s brother, to teach the boy to ride ... with his knees alone." Hamilton p. 28
  • ALT1: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud served both Latin Christian and Arab Muslim rulers? Source: "This Eastern Christian family thus knit together different political and religious groups of the region by bringing their medical expertise to serve both the Franks and the Ayyubids. Zimo p. 159
  • ALT2: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud treated the Christian prince Baldwin of Jerusalem, but as an astrologer sent a message to Baldwin's enemy Saladin prophesizing Saladin's victory? Source: "... he also took a message from his father, a noted astrologer, to Saladin, assuring him that he would conquer Jerusalem." Hamilton p. 186
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Czarodziejski okręt
  • Comment: Hamilton describes Abu Khayr in his 2000 book as Abu Sulayman's brother. Other cited sources, as well as Hamilton in his 1980 book, describes Abu Khayr as Abu Sulayman's son.
Created by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 185 past nominations.

Surtsicna (talk) 18:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: New article with 2380 characters, well-sourced with inline citations. I reviewed all cited sources for verification; all sources are accessible. No issues with copyvio or tone. All hooks are interesting, well-researched, and properly cited. Thank you for writing about Abu Sulayman, an exceptional figure whose life bridged cultural and religious divides. As an Arab Christian, I appreciate how this article highlights the contributions of Eastern Christians, and Arabs in general in medicine and science. el.ziade (talkallam) 10:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Big Motor

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Created by FossilDS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

FossilDS (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Interesting, copyvio free, long enough, recently created, reliable source. Both are passable but the first is far more interesting (and the second is cited into a different source in text).
However, one issue. I am worried this article is slightly NPOV, in that it has almost no content except the controversies. While their scandals are a key part of the notability I have concerns with running on the front page an article that is only scandal when they do seem to have been otherwise notable, with little historical context or other information on their activities. For comparison, the Japanese article looks more balanced on this front. I don't think anything has to be removed, but maybe add more that isn't scandal? I have no issues otherwise. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PARAKANYAA:, thank you for the review! I do also agree that the article leans a bit too heavily on the controversies, but almost all Japanese-language sources and all English-languages sources basically only talk about the scandals, so it was a bit difficult finding stuff unrelated to it. I've reorganized the article a bit and added more info from the Japanese article, I hope it's at least somewhat sufficient. I'm also happy with nominating the first DYK instead of ALT1.FossilDS (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new changes address my issue. Good to go! PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kang Ju-hyeok

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Kang Ju-hyeok
Kang Ju-hyeok
  • ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the youngest player to debut in FC Seoul history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old?
Created by Explicit (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

✗plicit 13:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Carlyle Hotel

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The Carlyle Hotel
The Carlyle Hotel
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 683 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 01:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Certainly updated recently, with a 114k-character expansion, so new enough, and long enough. It is well-sourced and not too closely paraphrased. The hooks are short and interesting. I would go for ALT1, for me it's the most interesting/surprising, but I'm happy with all of them (and who's knows what other hooks are in store). And QPQ has been done. If there is a problem, I cannot find it. Thank you. Cardofk (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael O'Kane

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Moved to mainspace by Ergo Sum (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 107 past nominations.

Ergo Sum 03:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 4

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Bunt sind schon die Wälder

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J. F. Reichardt
J. F. Reichardt
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2124 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thank you for this interesting article. I would like to hear this one. A few comments:

  • Earwig finds only quotations and proper names. No problem there.
  • The hook citation (above) for ALT0 was not in the article, so I added it there. I also gave the article a very minor copyedit. That does not affect this DYK review.
  • One issue: The citation given above for ALT0 does not confirm popularity. Popularity is mentioned in the name of the website, but not in the main text of the website. Also, the website name says (if I understand correctly) "popular and traditional lieder", so according to that, this piece could be in traditional style (which does not imply popularity). So I think we need to EITHER find another citation OR another hook. Storye book (talk) 11:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Storye book: Not really a fan of the proposed hook, since the context given does not seem to make it clear why it is important that it has remained popular, and the context of it remaining popular is not clear (what is intended by "remained popular"?). I was going to suggest a hook involving Schubert, but the meaning of "different setting" is not clear: does it mean he wrote another melody to the song, or that Reichardt's melody was later re-used by Schubert? If it's the latter then perhaps that could work as a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The wording I had in mind was something like "... that the melody of "Bunt sind schon die Wälder" (Colourful are the forests already) by Johann Friedrich Reichardt (pictured) was later used by Franz Schubert?", but I'm not sure if that was the intended context of the "Schubert wrote a different setting" part. That suggestion could probably still be worked on, I just threw it out here for brainstorming purposes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - both - for thinking. I am open to rewording. Grammar: in German, "und" says that something is both, both traditional and popular", - if it was only one, German would use "oder". As you will have seen, there were multiple melodies, before and after, but this is the one in most publications, recorded, sung. Take Hannes Wader, a singer-songwriter himself: singing that old melody. (yt at the bottom) - Schubert wrote a different setting (= different melody + different piano), which didn't become popular, - note that only one of the uses mentioned has his version, - it remained for art singers and higher school education. What word would you choose instead of "popular" for: is the one that people know and sing? Schubert is really only a side note here, his setting didn't get popular in any sense, it's not Erlkönig. I didn't know he wrote a melody, but now he wrote 700 (as DYK once informed us). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would it help to add that it was recorded among the "80 most popular Volkslieder" [33]. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new reference given by Gerda Arendt is satisfactory, and it explains the meaning of popularity in the article's context. Gerda, could you please give us an ALT1, and put the new sentence and citation in the article? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 08:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Storye bookYou mean a sentence about that collection? (In another nom, someone mentioned "promotional". Anyway, ref added, which supports "remained popular. Will search for more. As a little gift: a children's tv version ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added two more indications of popularity, a 2011 poll and a 2017 collection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0a: ... that the Volkslied "Bunt sind schon die Wälder" (Colourful are the forests already) has remained popular with the 1799 melody by Johann Friedrich Reichardt (pictured)?
to avoid the impression that only the melody remained popular. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Gerda. The citation is now in the article, and I approve ALT0a, with image. Storye book (talk) 09:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony F. Ciampi

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Anthony F. Ciampi
Anthony F. Ciampi
Improved to Good Article status by Ergo Sum (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 108 past nominations.

Ergo Sum 17:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. Either hook works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Standard-winged nightjar

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Standard-winged nightjar
Standard-winged nightjar
  • ... that during breeding season, the male standard-winged nightjar (pictured) grows a wing ornament over twice the length of its body?
Improved to Good Article status by Reconrabbit (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

Reconrabbit 22:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is fine in every respect (long enough, well-written and recently enough promoted to GA), and the hook is good, but it is not backed up by the wording in the article. In the article it simply says that the standards are "much longer" than the body, now "twice the length". There should also be an inline citation supporting the claim directly after the sentence in which it is made. It's a small fix, after which the article should be ready for DYK. Yakikaki (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe that the length given of a broad secondary flight feather[4] on each wing elongated to up to 53.5 centimetres makes sense to describe as "twice the length of its body" since earlier the bird's length is given as this medium-sized (20–23 centimetres (7.9–9.1 in) long) nightjar and 53.5÷2=26.75 > 23 cm. Though since it's "up to" I could see justifying adding "that can be" after "wing ornament" in the hook. Additionally the quote in the source describes the bird's body as "21-22 cm" and immediately after gives a minimum length of 45 cm with the standards. I could change it to say directly in the article "over twice the length" instead of just "much longer" though. Reconrabbit 00:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I wasn't arguing that the facts were not in the article or not supported by the inline citations. DYK used to have a rule, though, which stated "The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear." However I see now that the rules have changed and become more flexible, and I can therefore happily drop this minor objection and give the green light to the article. Nice work! Yakikaki (talk) 15:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yoon Do-young

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Yoon Do-young
Yoon Do-young
Created by Explicit (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

✗plicit 12:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to. Both articles new enough, long enough. Hook fact is cited in the flag article. AGF on Korean sources. FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 16:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 5

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Susan Finnegan

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  • ... that Susan Finnegan was the first female head of the arachnids section at the Natural History Museum, London, but had to resign her job in order to marry?
Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 10:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The sources say she left on marrying but not that that was the policy. You might want to consider citing this in reference to the marriage ban policy in British museums.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

History of education in Wales (1870–1939)

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  • Source: *Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (page 99)
  • James, Deborah (November 2001). "'Teaching girls': intermediate schools and career opportunities for girls in the East Glamorgan valleys of Wales, 1896—1914". History of Education. 30 (6): 513–526. doi:10.1080/00467600110072114. ISSN 0046-760X. (pages 519–520)
  • Jenkins, Beth (2016). "Women's professional employment in Wales 1880-1939" (PDF). Cardiff University. (pages 41, 47, 49)
  • ALT1: ... that 38% of Welsh university students in 1900 were woman? Source: Jenkins, Beth (2016). "Women's professional employment in Wales 1880-1939" (PDF). Cardiff University. (page 48)
  • ALT2: ... that the songs taught to Welsh Schoolchildren in the late 19th century included Let English boys their duty do and Hurrah for England? Source: Johnes, Martin (2024). Welsh Not: Elementary Education and the Anglicisation of Nineteenth-Century Wales (PDF). University of Wales Press. ISBN 9781837721818. (pages 352–354)
  • ALT3: ... that 1930s Welsh schoolchildren were more likely to go to secondary school than their counterparts in England? Source: Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (pages 128–129)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 2000
Improved to Good Article status by Llewee (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Llewee (talk) 23:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Nice work on this Llewee! Brought to GA on November 5, obviously long enough, very well-written, neutral, decorated with correctly-licensed images. I feel strongly that ALT1 is the most interesting fact here. ALT0 makes me wonder who felt that way—educators? Women? ALT2 doesn't do much for me, and ALT3 is alright. Great work! ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paora

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Paora having a snack
Paora having a snack
  • ... that following public backlash over Paora the kiwi (pictured) being mistreated, Zoo Miami stated, "We have offended the nation of New Zealand"?
Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

―Panamitsu (talk) 07:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hook interesting, article new and long enough with adequate referencing. Hook fact cited inline and verified in the relevant source. QPQ is done. Earwig gives a fairly high number but that is due to attributed quotes which are relevant to the article. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Panamitsu, have you thought of asking Zoo Miami whether they'd like to donate a free photo to Wikipedia? Maybe as part of their ongoing redemption? I do remember that their publicity officer was rather onto it. And on a different front, I encouraged User:Paora to review this article as that seemed rather appropriate. But obviously, he's missed the boat. Schwede66 07:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Schwede66: Haha yes it certainly would've been funny if Paora reviewed this nomination. As for the image, I haven't thought of that, although it sounds like a good idea. I prefer not to ask organisations for images so I won't be doing it myself. You are welcome to do it if you wish, although I do realise that you will be more focussed on other projects that are more meaningful to you. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sure, no problems. I've managed to track down an email address for the zoo's communications director, Ron Magill. I've flicked him an email. Let's see what comes back. Can I suggest that prep promoters sit tight for a few days to see whether the zoo would like to make a photo available? Panamitsu, maybe you'd enjoy giving Magill's bio a bit of a tidy up – it could certainly do with one. Schwede66 08:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Catholic Spirit

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5x expanded by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 20:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Stuff Matters

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  • ... that according to the author of Stuff Matters, holding a sample of an aerogel is "like holding a piece of sky"?
  • Source: "Most people will never hold a piece of aerogel in their hand, but those who do never forget it. It is a unique experience. There is no weight to it that you can perceive, and its edges fade away so imperceptibly that is impossible to see where the material stops and the air begins. Add to this its ghostly blue color and it really is like holding a piece of sky." Miodownik, Mark. Jan.-Feb. 2015. "Like Holding a Piece of Sky". American Scientist. Vol. 103. No. 1. pp 60-65. (The first page indicates "Excerpted from Stuff Matters by Mark Miodownik")
Moved to mainspace by DrOrinScrivello (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

DrOrinScrivello (talk) 17:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 6

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Tin mining in Indonesia

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Former tin mining pit in Belitung
Former tin mining pit in Belitung
Moved to mainspace by Juxlos (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 233 past nominations.

Juxlos (talk) 04:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 18:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan respecting the District of Zanghezour

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Ruins of the Armenian quarter of Shusha after its destruction by the Azerbaijani army in March 1920.
Ruins of the Armenian quarter of Shusha after its destruction by the Azerbaijani army in March 1920.
  • Source: Saparov, Arsène (2014). From conflict to autonomy in the Caucasus: the Soviet Union and the making of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno Karabakh. Routledge.
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Olympian (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Olympian loquere 00:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not required. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 18:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Thriley and Olympian: This is a really interesting subject. I have several concerns for WP:DYKCOMPLETE and WP:NPOV before promotion:
      • Until World War I, the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire controlled the Caucasus, and both collapsed during the war. At least some mention of this would help readers unfamiliar with the region understand the situation better. Right now, I only see this hinted at with "attaining independence from Russia".
      • Regarding "In 1920, the region [Zangezur] was invaded by units of the Red Army" why is this in the background, when it discusses events events after the agreement is signed?
      • Regarding "In March 1920, the local Armenians revolted with the support of Armenia" the same as above, why include this in the background section?
      • Saparov (2014) mentions militias in Nagorno-Karabakh throughout this conflict, I don't see these mentioned in the Wikipedia article. So when it says "the local Armenians", is this referring a widespread uprising or an ongoing military conflict with those militia groups?
      • The article quotes a historian saying the agreement was "basically a declaration of intent". Can this article expand on that? What is a declaration of intent? Do historians find evidence that either side intended to build any kind of long-term diplomatic relationship from this? The "Aftermath" section seems to imply the opposite.
      • Does the Red Army invasion of Azerbaijan render this agreement moot? It occurs just weeks after the final line of the "Aftermath" section.
    • Rjjiii (talk) 01:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Favre's Dad Game

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Moved to mainspace by Gonzo fan2007 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:11, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article looks good. The only issue is that I don't see the quote from the hook "greatest games of his fabulous career" in the article? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BeanieFan11, it is the second sentence of the article. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:27, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not referring to the source, but in the article Favre's Dad Game I'm not seeing where the quote "one of the greatest games of his fabulous career" is mentioned. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops! Added BeanieFan11. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nikolaus Mollyn

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Created by Yakikaki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 144 past nominations.

Yakikaki (talk) 16:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: While there's no hard rule or guideline discouraging it, best practice is to try and avoid superlatives if possible because as it turns out, the claim that x is first with y tends to be disputed, controversial, or a matter of opinion in many cases. I'm not sure how to best word it, so perhaps User:RoySmith would care to correct me. Viriditas (talk) 23:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The way I generally approach these is to consider how reliable the record keeping is and especially if it's possible to enumerate all the possible other examples and show that this one must be first. So, it's a safe statement to say that Neil Armstrong was the first person on the moon because I have exceptional confidence that somebody didn't get there before him and somehow the record of that just got lost. Not so with this example. I'd recommend this be qualified with something like "is believed to be", "the first recorded", or something like that. I've been slowly working on an essay on this topic. It's not complete, but User:RoySmith/essays/First is worst may provide some value. RoySmith (talk) 00:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Yakikaki: I planned to review this and request new hooks per the above, but it failed the very first spot check. I made the change in the article.[36] Please take a moment to review the article and make sure the text to source integrity holds up. Viriditas (talk) 08:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas:, @RoySmith: Thanks both for engaging in this review and trying to improve it and the article. First of all, regarding the minor change to the article concerning Mollyn's father and his printing activities in Antwerp: fair enough, the revised wording is closer to the source. I do in general try to avoid phrasing which is too close to the source, as this can be a copyvio issue. In this case I think I also got a bit confused because Mollyn junior was in the same situation later, which is described in detail in the next page of the same article, and since he doubtlessly DID print religious material critical to the Catholic church I made a minor mix-up. So thanks for spotting that. Now to the question of the claim in the hook. Well, I can live with "the first recorded" by all means. I would however like to underline that the claim that he was the first printer in Riga has been put forward at least since 1795 (but of course, since I try to be a serious Wikipedia editor, I would not dream of using a source from 1795 in the actual article) and has not been contested. In fact, all sources – reasonable, academic sources – I've been able to find on the subject confirm the claim. It is not an outlandish or grotesque claim. In fact, it used to be precisely the kind of things one was encouraged to put in DYKs (provided, of course it was properly supported). I understand that in some other cases there may have slipped through one or two claims in DYK which were on closer inspection quite fanciful (and, perhaps, politically motivated or in general sensationalist). I would argue that this is not the case here, and that we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath-water. Yakikaki (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas:, @RoySmith: A small addendum: comparing the claim in the hook here with the examples given in Roy's draft essay, I would say this one is comparable, at worst, to the Roger Bannister example. The history of early printing is a thoroughly researched area. We have a good idea at the pace in which printing spread through Europe and 1588 seems in no way unreasonable for the first printing press to have been set up in Riga. Furthermore, it was an undertaking which required financial muscles and was something of a major event in the history of a city, so it usually left a mark in archives etc. So all in all, again, the claim is not extravagant or strange. It is certainly very far from the example of the pub with the traffic lights (a peculiar claim to fame indeed!). Sorry for my wordy replies here but I thought it best to put forward my thoughts and reasoning, to let you know that it wasn't a proposal I hatched on a whim. Yakikaki (talk) 14:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. Earwig shows no problems. First part of the hook verified, second part sourced to Sander (1998) taken on good faith as I don't have access to it. The English is well written and engaging. I recommend altering the hook per RoySmith's suggestion, although I'm not going to hold up this nomination, but others might. I made a small number of minor copyedits.[37] Please review. Viriditas (talk) 02:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Cullman–Arab tornado

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  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ferrari FF
  • Comment: Although the source is a bit hard to navigate, the DAT (Damage Assessment Toolkit) is produced by the United States Government, and is overwhelmingly considered reliable.
Created by EF5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

EF5 22:18, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Haha, it's always great to see fellow weather enthusiasts! This is one of the more interesting tornadoes I've written about, and definitely one of the more infamous. :) EF5 23:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I picked up on a couple issues during my read-through of the article, and will have to hold off on a fuller review until these are addressed. The second paragraph in §Track_through_Cullman is unsourced, as is the final sentence in that section. Additionally, the second paragraph in §Fairview_and_Hulaco states that a home was completely destroyed at high-end EF4 intensity – this doesn't corroborate with the tornado's stated peak intensity of 175 mph, which is near the middle of the EF4 range. Everything else looks promising so far: both hooks are short, interesting, and cited (though I personally prefer ALT1); a QPQ has been done; and the article is both new enough and long enough, not to mention well-written. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 01:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dylan620: Issues have been addressed. EF5 13:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Much appreciated, EF5. My apologies for the late response – today was busier IRL than I had expected, and I've been having troubles with internet connection at home throughout the day. I am a little concerned that ref 10 (OKC Storm Watcher) is a WordPress blog. I am open to being proven wrong, but the blog appears to fall short of the standards set forth at WP:RSBLOG and WP:EXPERTSPS. The same could be said for ref 23 (AlabamaWX) – however, this seems to be an uncontroversial and harmless archival of a Public Information Statement from the National Weather Service, so I'm not quite as concerned here. Source-text integrity checks out—I am assuming good faith wrt Cullman Times refs 15, 22, and 24, which are dead links—and I cannot detect any instances of plagiarism or close paraphrasing. (High returns on Earwig are false positives resulting from the use of properly attributed public domain text.) I would like for ref 10 to be replaced, or its use justified, before approving the nomination, but that is the only roadblock at this point. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 23:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dylan620: Done. I just removed it, since the claims were backed up by reliable sources. :) EF5 11:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent – I'm happy to approve this. Preference for ALT1, as stated above. Great work, EF5! Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 22:04, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 8

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Fen Juhua

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  • Source: Teo, Stephen (2015). Chinese Martial Arts Cinema. Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press. doi:10.1515/9781474403887-005. ISBN 978-1-4744-0388-7. "Tianyi produced the first wuxia picture so acknowledged by film historians, Nüxia Li Feifei (Lady Knight Li Feifei), released in 1925. Beijing Opera diva Fen Juhua played the eponymous lady knight and became the first of the lady knights in the Chinese cinema. As with much of the output in the genre, the film is now lost. Zheng Junli called it a love story that was a ‘straightforward imitation of the ancients’. A young couple in love are torn apart by a marriage broker and the machinations of parents, but they finally tie the knot with the intervention of the lady knight Li Feifei."
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 705 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:48, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hey Chris, I am glad to review another Hong Kong cinema nomination! First of all, thanks for writing up Fen Juhua, a red link I came across while working on Stephen Tung and wanted to remove for some time. Both articles are well-written and well-sourced, and Earwig shows no copyvio. I would accept ALT0 since it is supported by the source, and the literal translation of "女俠" is indeed somewhat akin to "lady knight". In fact, "lady knight" is certainly more eye-catching than simply "martial artist". So I am satisfied with ALT0. Both articles were nominated on time. Two QPQs done. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 18:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kazansky District, Petrograd

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Map of Kazansky District
Map of Kazansky District
  • Source: выборы въ Учредительное собраніе, Delo Naroda. November 16, 1917. p. 3
Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 411 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 22:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Chen Dingshan

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  • Source: Nicole Huang (黃心村) (June 2014). 舊聞新語話春申： 陳定山的上海與台北 [Travels of Minor Narratives: Chen Dingshan's Shanghai and Taipei] (PDF). Journal of Taiwanese Literature (in Chinese) (24): 1–30. Archived from the original (PDF) on 14 April 2021. Retrieved 9 November 2024. (有學者將陳定山定格成遺老形象，說他是「鴛鴦蝴蝶派最後的傳承人」，「延 續了民國舊式文人的一線餘脈」。[Some scholars have characterized Chen Dingshan as an old man, saying that he is "the last inheritor of the Mandarin Duck and Butterfly School" and "continues the remnants of the old-style literati of the Republic of China"])
  • ALT1: ... that the prolific author and artist Chen Dingshan named a hotel after two actresses? Source: Nicole Huang (黃心村) (June 2014). 舊聞新語話春申： 陳定山的上海與台北 [Travels of Minor Narratives: Chen Dingshan's Shanghai and Taipei] (PDF). Journal of Taiwanese Literature (in Chinese) (24): 1–30. Archived from the original (PDF) on 14 April 2021. Retrieved 9 November 2024. (父親 去世後，陳定山回到老家杭州，曾在西泠橋邊的風水寶地上建過一個「蝶來飯 店」，取名於大明星胡蝶和徐來的名字。開業那天，請來胡蝶和徐來參加剪綵， 轟轟烈烈，一時成為佳話，同時也炒熱了飯店的生意。[After his father passed away, Chen Dingshan returned to his hometown of Hangzhou and built the "Die Lai Hotel" on the Feng Shui treasure land next to Xiling Bridge, named after the famous stars Hu Die and Xu Lai. On the opening day, Hu Die and Xu Lai were invited to participate in the ribbon-cutting ceremony, which was a great success and became a favorite story. It also heated up the hotel's business."])
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Phoebe Plummer (1 of 4)
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 706 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough (created on 9 Nov), long enough, sources are good, very presentable. Hooks are cited and I confirm the content of the hooks. One bit I might need to pick is that Chen named a "restaurant", not a "hotel", after two actresses, as "飯店" usually refers to restauarants while "酒店" means hotels. So it should be
    • ALT1a: ... that the prolific author and artist Chen Dingshan named a restaurant after two actresses?
Other than that, hooks are quite interesting. I would also prefer that you clarify in the original hook that the Mandarin Ducks and Butterflies School is a school of literature, but that's up to personal discretion. QPQ confirmed.
Finally, I wish to use this space to say a big thank you for writing the "brother article" of Chen Xiaocui! Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 19:17, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kim Kuk-song

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  • ... that a senior colonel with 30 years experience in North Korean intelligence agencies defected to South Korea in 2014?
  • Source: "Mr Kim spent 30 years working his way to the top ranks of North Korea's powerful spy agencies ... Now, the former senior colonel has decided to tell his story to the BBC ... He had to flee for his life in 2014, and since then he has been living in Seoul and working for South Korean intelligence." from: "Drugs, arms, and terror: A high-profile defector on Kim's North Korea". BBC News. 10 October 2021. Retrieved 10 November 2024.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 903 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 19:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Earwig at 8.3% is negligible. Easy pass. Good article, if pretty short, though more than understandable given the subject. First hook is better than the second IMO, but I'll leave it to the promoter to decide. ThaesOfereode (talk) 03:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2019 Timaru hailstorm

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Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 54 past nominations.

―Panamitsu (talk) 05:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Ooh, a weather DYK! I'll take this.


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good, passed. Although the "storm" section is short, it should be fine. EF5 16:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Walter G. Benz Jr.

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Created by Toadboy123 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 42 past nominations.

Toadboy123 (talk) 09:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article length and age are fine, no copyvio, source checks out. First time reviewer so would appreciate a second look 03:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

The Manhasset

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The Manhasset apartment building
The Manhasset apartment building
Created by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 684 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 18:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I'll be reviewing this today. :)


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Preference for ALT3, that one seems more interesting (and unfortunate) than the others. EF5 16:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

checkY Good to go, easy pass! :) EF5 16:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thomas Curnow

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Thomas Curnow, 1880
Thomas Curnow, 1880
  • ... that schoolteacher Thomas Curnow (pictured) used a red scarf to stop a train from derailing?
  • Reviewed:
Created by PastelLilac (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

PastelLilac (talk) 04:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Article length and age are fine, no copyright or plagiarism issues seen, but I am concerned about WP:N. The article states "lthough Curnow became a household name in Australia following the Glenrowan siege, today he is a relatively obscure figure in Australian history. In most plays and films about the Kelly gang, Curnow is a minor character..." -- If more information concerning the notoriety of Curnow in his own time in Australian press or society / outside of dramatic representations I think that would assist. -Maximilian775 (talk) 21:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I'm not sure I understand your request. I think it's clear from the article that Curnow was well known in his day. For example, his retirement 35 years after the Glenrowan siege "received press coverage throughout Australia". He hadn't sunk completely into obscurity, as much as he tried to avoid the limelight. His actions led to the downfall of arguably Australia's most famous historical person. Notability beyond dispute surely. - PastelLilac (talk) 21:07, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you can elaborate on the Cornish association source -- I'm not sure how 1 citation shows "coverage throughout Australia", and your statement of him being a household name in Legacy bears no citations at all. I'm certainly open to being convinced of notability, but as the article currently stands in my reading it's not shown thoroughly enough. Maximilian775 (talk) 21:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just jumping in here - per WP:NTEMP, once notability has been established, it does not need to be maintained. If he was a household name in Australia at one point in time, then he's notable enough for Wikipedia now, Maximilian775. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 21:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fair point, and due to my completing my initial read of the article on a smaller screen, I didn't see the portion about the Victoria Humane Society medal and the fact he had to essentially go into witness protection for a time. My apologies, PastelLilac

With that in mind, I think the article overall is fine, but the hook could include a mention of the role he played in Kelly's capture. Maybe

    • ALT1: ... that schoolteacher Thomas Curnow (pictured) used a red scarf to stop a train from derailing, leading to the capture of notorious outlaw Ned Kelly?
That's all good. I'm open to hook suggestions, and yours may get more clicks. Part of me takes pleasure in ignoring Ned Kelly though, considering so much has been written about him already. - PastelLilac (talk) 22:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All that being said, approved

Maximilian775 (talk) 23:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Campo Valdés Roman baths

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Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 25 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 04:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Kimikel, review follows: article created 14 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to what appear to be reliable sources for the subject matter; sources are all in Spanish so will have to AGF there is no overly close paraphrasing of them, Earwig shows no issues; hook facts are interesting, mentioned in the article and check out to sources cited, at least according to Google Translate. A QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 08:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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