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Heck knows. 2008! Thats five years ago. Do what you want. Cheers Five Years 14:10, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: CEA

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I love it, I'm just trying to keep all the images from sandwiching up. Hopefully there's room for it after I expand the sales and do a final pass for any info. If not, I wanna put in a commons link for the other images. :) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 02:09, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Luigi code

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Good catch on this one. I nominated it at AFD, but somehow I missed that it was a blatantly harmful hoax. Andrew327 17:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question

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Hi Czar,

Thank you for reading my wiki page, and Writopia's. I added my former name, Rebecca Segall, to the wiki page and the footnotes will be added this week connected to pieces that I wrote prior to the founding of Writopia. Will this help verify that I am a journalist--haven written about a wide range of topics beyond Writopia for years? Thanks for your help.

Rebecca — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.27.157 (talk) 18:15, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Rebecca—not sure if you're following this talk page or if you'll see this message, but while the footnotes are a start, the deletion discussion (called AfD, articles for deletion) is to establish whether an entry it fit for inclusion in the encyclopedia. In a nutshell, a biography needs to pass the general notability guideline and the associated biography notability guideline (particularly WP:AUTHOR). To keep a page on Rebecca Segall, we'll have to find links to reliable sources that discuss her (and solely her, not just mentions) as a notable figure (things self-published under her name don't count). This would ideally be a bio in a major newspaper or magazine about her/your accolades, etc. If you have those sources available, let me know and I can help you add them. (For all of this summarized more eloquently, check out WP:42.) czar · · 18:47, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Czar -- Thank you for your help. I will gather these sources that you suggest. I have many questions about this. Is it possible to speak on the phone? Or only in this fascinating, highly mysterious wiki-sphere? Best Rebecca WS PS I can't log into my wiki account because it tells me that my username is not my username and I am confused yet once again. But I love wikipedia and this community still. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.243.166 (talk) 01:52, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can't say that's a common request, but I personally would oblige. You can send me an email. czar · · 07:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

NAC's

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Hi there. I think you are doing a great work with the AfD's, but I wanted to let you know that I've reverted your closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pahal Singh Lama and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Still Life With Eggplant, as I believe that non-admins shouldn't close AfD's as no consensus. After reading through WP:NAC one more time, I realize that this text has been added, which I guess is the exact thing you did so I've undone my reverts of your closures, and you should keep up the good work. :) Mentoz86 (talk) 09:43, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anniversary

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Many thanks. I didn't even realise it was my anniversary! -- Necrothesp (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Banned or blocked (no, not you...)

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I've refactored your posts at the AfD for Steve Wilik. The sock is blocked, not banned, so far as I know. Only extremely persistent and pernicious sockmasters get to be banned. It's a tricky difference... Peridon (talk) 18:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that—I saw your edit and wanted to send thanks, but was mobile at the time. Appreciated. czar · · 23:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Deathrow OXM review

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Here you go, --Surachit (talk) 21:55, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

AFD Relisting

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Just for my education, I was hoping you could clarify the process for re-listing AFD discussions. If there is no discussion apart from the original nomination, how many times will an article be re-listed before a decision is made? Cheers. FlatOut 01:46, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At most, twice (see WP:RELIST). It's generally done to give any discussion (or severe lack of discussion) a bit more time to take its course. If there is literally no response, it's usually closed as "no consensus with no prejudice against speedy renomination" (which is effectively the same as "keep for now") unless an admin feels a case is made otherwise. If you're thinking of a specific inactive AfD, you may want to ping its related WikiProjects for more input (and note said messages on the AfD page). czar · · 01:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank-you much appreciated FlatOut 05:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review

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Just so you know, you started the peer review for Super Mario (series), but you haven't responded in a week. Do you mind if you start peer reviewing the article? I just want to get the series articles all up to GA, but you can only have one peer review active... If you can respond soon, thanks. (I don't mind if you respond here or on my talk page, by the way.) Darrman (talk) 06:09, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The PR is open for comments from all, it's not limited or linked to a single person like a GAN. Either way, I didn't forget, just have been working on a multi-day copy edit. I'll be to it shortly! czar · · 06:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks for cleaning it up. Darrman (talk) 06:17, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No offence, but do you mind finishing my peer review? I think it will be archived soon... If you are in the middle of something, fair enough. I don't think you responded in the peer review in two weeks. Here's a shortcut to the review: Wikipedia:Peer review/Super Mario (series)/archive1 Darrman (talk) 15:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

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re: Hey—I completed your Film Annex nom: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Film Annex. I saw it got a little messy. You may want to consider activating Wikipedia:Twinkle, which gives you a tab atop the article for easy one-click nominations. Take care czar · · 22:05, 8 May 2013 (UTC) re: re: Thank you for your help czar. I usually don't nominate much, only when I see something. But yes, I will investigate twinkle, it looks like a good tool. Thanks again, kudos to you.Wikipatrolwatch (talk) 00:37, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BadGif tagging

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Can I suggest that if you want the image in a different format, then convert and upload it yourself. Tagging GIFs serves no useful purpose and is a waste of your time. --Surturz (talk) 03:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Responded on original thread (your TP) czar · · 03:42, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is not Association football, it is Rugby league. LibStar (talk) 04:08, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch—corrected czar · · 04:16, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I dug up the original license declaration, which was "public domain." As the image contains non-PD Wikimedia Foundation elements, the uploader can't declare it to be PD, but he can - and did - disclaim any rights he has, leaving only the Foundation's rights in place. In light of this, I removed the deletion template. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:12, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If I understand correctly, the derivative image would have to be GNU FDL or CC-by-sa-3.0 compatible to comply with the File:Wikipedia-logo-v2.svg license, no? And since the author is the only person who knows where the other elements come from, wouldn't he have to be the one to set the proper license? (That's why I delayed speedied it.) czar · · 05:35, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have a point - if we can't trust the author to know what he created and what parts he didn't create, I'll conceded that we can't rely on his declaration of "public domain." However, 7 days may not be enough time to get the author's attention. I would recommend FdF with an aggressive attempt (i.e. email + talk page) to notify the author. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 05:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2013 May 10#File:World Knowledge Medal.gif czar · · 07:52, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Amakazu clan

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Please take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amakasu clan. I tried to add the appropriate notices, but something seems to have gone wrong. Akamasu doesn't appear on any of the the linked pages. If you can figure out what I did wrong, please try to explain so that I can do better next time. --Ansei (talk) 18:30, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're halfway there—you have to transclude the AfD on each of the sort pages after posting the notices (it's automatic if you use FWDS). Go to edit each page and follow the lead. I left it alone so you could practice, but just give a holler if you'd like a hand. czar · · 02:14, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. --Ansei (talk) 18:45, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: TFA

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Nom it if you want. I've always found the TFA process a chore, so I leave that to the people who are invested enough :P Still gotta' work on CEA and your notes anyhow! Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:33, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

God of War: Betrayal FAC

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Took care of the two things you pointed out. --JDC808 15:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

? --JDC808 18:20, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
? (Cool. Don't have time to leave a full review—just saw that one thing and wanted to leave a quick comment.) czar · · 13:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

re:Game Informer 214 (February 2011)

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No problem, I can scan that page for you sometime on Saturday. I'll post a link to the image on Talk:Illusive Man when I do. Cheers, sesuprime 03:56, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE April Copy Edit of the Month Gold!

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The Guild of Copy Editors' Award
Thanks for your submission to the April 2013 Copy Edit of the Month contest, and congratulations! For your work on Illusive Man, you've earned the Gold. Great job! —Torchiest talkedits 14:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I was wondering if you could revisit the article and let me know if there are still additional concerns. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 22:14, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just a prod. I plan on looking through it once more meself and then talking it back to FA next week. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 12:38, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey—I responded on the talk page on the 16th (link). czar · · 18:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, missed that entirely, doh! Thanks! Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 21:47, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've started a new FAC at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary/archive2. I've addressed the critical issues you've pointed out; I didn't tweak the ending, and unfortunately there are no hard sales numbers (they basically have to be given out by the actual publishers now since the tracking firms don't release numbers, just rankings now.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GOCE May backlog drive awards

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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This award is hereby presented to Czar for tirelessly editing more than 20,000 words during the Guild of Copy Editors May 2013 backlog elimination drive. Thank you and congratulations! We'll see you in July! —Torchiest talkedits 00:42, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Guild of Copy Editors' Award – Leaderboard award – Word Count – 3rd Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Czar for copy editing a total of 22,273 words–3rd Place–during the Guild of Copy Editors' May 2013 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thank you so much for your contributions to the project. – Dianna (talk) 02:34, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Guild of Copy Editors' Award – Leaderboard award – Oldest articles – 5th Place (tie)
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Czar for copy editing two of our oldest articles–a 5th-Place tie–during the Guild of Copy Editors' May 2013 Backlog Elimination Drive. Many thanks for your help! All the best, Miniapolis 19:17, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Guild of Copy Editors' Award – Leaderboard award – Largest article – 2nd Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Czar for copyediting a 12,839-word article for 2nd place during the Guild of Copy Editors' May 2013 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks again and all the best, Miniapolis 19:17, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Guild of Copy Editors' Award – Leaderboard award – Most 5K Articles – 1st Place (tie)
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Czar for copy editing three 5K articles for a 1st-place tie during the Guild of Copy Editors' May 2013 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks again and all the best, Miniapolis 19:31, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

AFD NAC

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Hi mate, you non-admin closed this AfD after it was speedy deleted (all perfectly fine). The original author has recreated the article, though, claiming there are better sources and that it should not be deleted. I tagged it for speedy deletion but have agreed that should be declined provided the AFD is reopened and allowed to run its course. That would mean reversing your close. I assume you'd have no objection (it was procedural after all) but thought I should let you know that is what I have suggested. Cheers, Stalwart111 05:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting circumstances. I wouldn't mind reverting the close, but wouldn't it be more appropriate to renom it instead since the previous discussion did end in a speedy deletion? That would indicate that it has already gone through AfD once and that it has been recreated and you can present the circumstances, etc. czar · · 05:44, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, except it didn't really "go through AFD". But, yeah, I might nominate it a second time instead. Ha ha. Stalwart111 05:51, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Muthu Alagappan

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:23, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Triboniophorus aff. graeffei

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Gatoclass 16:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

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Thanks so much for the very nice new hot pink slug article, and for the DYK! This is all very helpful for Wikipedia:WikiProject Gastropods, and we appreciate your work very much! Invertzoo (talk) 12:28, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Gastropods
I've noticed your edits on pages relating to Gastropods; perhaps you'd be interested in joining WikiProject Gastropods?
If you would like more information, please visit the project page or the project talk page.


DYK for Fantasia: Music Evolved

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:05, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Microconsole

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Allen3 talk 11:08, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion for Flashback (2013 video game)

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An article that you have been involved in editing, Flashback (2013 video game) , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. MASEM (t) 22:53, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Basic, HD remakes rarely get detailed attention to warrant new articles, and I don't see any case for this one to be an exception. If it does, we can always expand later, but it is nearly always best to expand the original article than to make a new one for remakes. --MASEM (t) 22:53, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article already states why it isn't a simple HD remake—responded under the merge request czar · · 01:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I remembered you giving the Illusive Man a nice peer review; I don't suppose you have thoughts on my... newest creation. "Newest creation". Feel like Dr. Frankenstein when I say that. Except, you know, without the stitching. Or the monster. Unless man is the real monster, though I'm still low on stitching in that case.

Anyway, my point is, all great Wikipedian work is cool and collaborative, and if I can get you to look at it without having to wait for someone else to, that's groovy. It's looking well enough in my eyes, though two of the sections probably could use a bit more expanding.

If you're busy or not interested, I understand. But thanks for reading, nonetheless. I got to ramble on about Frankenstein for some reason. – Bellum (talk) (contribs) 21:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll edit for you any time—you do good work. I'll try to get to it ASAP. czar · · 09:03, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Peer review/Tali'Zorah/archive1 czar · · 04:23, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relist of Fresh Healthy Vending

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Please reconsider your relist at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fresh Healthy Vending. Nobody has voted to delete and mine doesn't even count since the article has improved since I nommed it. Kilopi (talk) 08:10, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting is more of a procedural thing than a decision, but since you've withdrawn your nom, I've closed it up czar · · 09:03, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Super Time Force

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The DYK project (nominate) 17:19, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

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The Barnstar of Diligence
I have noticed your non-admin closures at AfD, and I have admired your diligence and your high degree of clue. I hope you are considering applying for admin status sometime in the not too distant future! --MelanieN (talk) 21:57, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

iTunes Radio Screenshot

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You removed my Mage from the article iTunes Radio because you couldn't verify I didn't steal it off a developer. I got it from the official press release were apple gives out images for editorial use. I then cropped it down so it would be just the screen. Look here. It is the only image with one device in it. You can compare the screens and you will see they match exactly. FalkirksTalk 13:45, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it since I couldn't verify the listed source, which you just changed. Also I had previously removed a similar screenshot that was not okay to use. I'll also note that the press site makes all downloaders approve a usage agreement that includes, "You may not alter, or modify the Image, in whole or in part, for any reason." Anyway, let's move this to the talk page: File talk:ITunes Radio Screenshot.jpg. czar · · 17:20, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit-a-thon Invitation

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CHF small logo
Please join the Chemical Heritage Foundation Edit-a-Thon, June 20, 2013.
Build content relating to women in science, chemistry and the history of science.
Use the hashtag #GlamCHF and write your favorite scientist or chemist into Wikipedian history!

Love the image on your user page, BTW -- I felt myself relax just seeing it. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 14:48, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Titanfall

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Disrupt with Karen Finney

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:18, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kerala ministries

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Thanks for closing the deletion discussion on E. K. Nayanar Ministry Term 2 and the three other Kerala ministries with "no consensus". I did not see them until after they were closed. They are lists of cabinet members for sequential governments in Kerala. I have provided a citation for them and rewritten the leads for context. What I did not understand was why the nominator picked those four articles out of the nine or so articles on Keralan ministries. But, alls well that ends well. Any comments I might have made likely would not have changed the "no consensus" outcome. --Bejnar (talk) 23:09, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for ITunes Radio

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:02, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Hohokum

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for World of Tanks Xbox 360 Edition

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi mate! Your note is fair enough but an admin did apply a range block on the basis of that SPI, it just happened not to include that particular IP. This response from the same IP is quack-eriffic given his previous style. Anyway, we can let it run for a few days. Cheers! Stalwart111 09:53, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know. Your sleuthing is good (and it's very unlikely that a brand new user would speak from authority on AfD policy in zer first hour). I only left a note to show that another human had seen and considered your work and that it wasn't unnoticed. czar · · 17:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well I certainly appreciate that and I did suspect you might have been making it more obvious to encourage a vote which in turn might allow for a close. I actually posted that diff hoping it might prompt you to do something about that particular IP, only to then recall my own recent note to you about an NAC of yours. Then I saw MelanieN's recent star and suggestion. She is absolutely right - you should consider it. I've often been impressed by your relisting and general AfD work and your recent advice has been outstanding. I would certainly co-nom with her if you were to consider it. Stalwart111 17:49, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the compliment and support. I enjoy doing the AfD rounds and I'd happily take the bit to do the non-non-admin closures if the community was on board. RFA is a brutal gauntlet from what I've seen, so I'm not confident I've done enough to satisfy all of their wants. If you have any suggestions, I'm open to hearing them. Thanks again czar · · 18:39, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would just keep doing what you're doing. I've always seen DYKs as a bit of a triviality but they seem to be popular at RFA so keep doing those and any GA and FA work. I imagine people might say your WP-space contributions are high compared to your article-space contributions and at the moment there's a big push for "content creators" (though few of the people pushing seem able to explain what that means). If you are genuinely interested I can raise the issue with a couple of the RFA regulars and get some proper, useful feedback for you. If you're not ready yet, just keep plugging away doing your "rounds" and collecting supporters. Stalwart111 21:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you're serious about this and it wouldn't trouble you, I'd absolutely appreciate the feedback. No rush, though. My WP-space contribs will be high due to delsort. If that proportionality bodes badly for me, I'll cease my activity there and focus on my GA and FAs in the pipeline. Thank you, again czar · · 22:23, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to! Might be worth starting User:Czar/feedback or something so that people can leave notes relating to this without clogging your talk page. A bit like an informal editor review. Then I can ask a select few people for some comments. You might also like to go to your edit count summary and create the Month counts and Top edited pages things there. They are required by RFA anyway and are actually pretty helpful tools for feedback either way. Stalwart111 00:27, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Woohoo! Looks like the seed I planted might be beginning to grow. You would be a great admin, and the tools would allow you to do more of what you are already doing. You won't actually want me as a nominator - you should get some well-respected admins for that - but I might privately do a little victory dance when your RfA succeeds. 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 15:15, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Madden NFL 25

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:03, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE June Blitz barnstar

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The Minor Barnstar
For copy editing at least one article during the Guild of Copy Editors June 2013 blitz, I hereby award Czar this Minor Barnstar. Thank you very much for participating! Diannaa (talk) 23:01, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

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Thanks for your help at The Rachel Maddow Show. By writing a couple of neutral, well sourced sentences you helped to avert an edit war! --MelanieN (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note

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As I said to the first guy, these were up for deletion, just not what I was nomming them for personally. It was basically done on behalf of WP:AURD (Australian Roads Wikiproject), as part of a continual run of article cleanups. It was an entirely possible outcome that everyone else could have voted for deletion and I wouldnt have had any say (not that I would have minded deltion too much in this case). If I had taken them to proposed mergers and that happened we'd need a second discussion after a potential failed merge :), here they can be sorted out in one go. If the individual articles were obviously to be kept but merged, I would have taken it there instead. You should also note that Speedy keep #1 only applies if deletion is not offered at all as an option (ie. only non-deletion options are offered), So it fails speedy keep 1 as I offered it. Im not going to challenge the closure, because the outcome was as desired, but please keep what I have said in mind.

As for the Nom bit, I hadnt explained it in the initial text (i just gave options for others), and it was a courtesy for yourself so votes could be easily tallied in the case that more people bothered to vote. (I had only explained my personal position in the discussion)

Thanks, Nbound (talk) 16:10, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was just a note on what I observed for future consideration. I agree that the AfD was not a candidate for speedy keep. Also I believe noms are asked to not repeat bullets especially because AfD is not a vote, though I appreciate the thought. czar · · 16:24, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Just Dance 2014

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:04, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for National Council on Teacher Quality

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:04, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for EA Sports UFC

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Orlady (talk) 03:53, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you/Citations question

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Hi Czar, thanks for your feedback on my recent contributions. Although it may appear promotional, my focus is primarily on taking relatively unused sources and putting them into articles in order to boost the citations and the accuracy contained in the articles. With all due respect, I must disagree that BoomPopMedia is not a reliable source - their Alexa ranking in the U.S. is below 150,000 (the metric I was taught to use to measure reliability) and on the Titanfall article that you edited, they are one of the earliest sites that appears on a search for information about the game. As information on the game is somewhat limited, I felt that it was an appropriate source.

I have not, however, edited Wikipedia in some time, so the metrics may have changed for what is and is not reliable. What is an appropriate traffic ranking to look at for web content? Despite my disagreements, I genuinely do appreciate your help. Wikipedia has meant a lot to me personally and so as I have had time this summer, I wanted to give back to the community that has helped me so much. I appreciate the work that individuals like you do on a consistent basis! I will be happy to focus on other sources in the future if you can provide me with an appropriate measure to use. AtlasBurden (talk) 15:15, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I replied on your talk page to keep the conversation together czar · · 16:07, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi czar, I have petitioned for BoomPopMedia to be added as a reliable source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games/Sources) and have disclosed my own personal connections to the site, per your suggestions. I will not edit any video game articles to include BoomPopMedia as a source until a decision has been reached and I will instead focus on other websites. Thank you for your guidance! AtlasBurden (talk) 15:32, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ignite (game engine)

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Gatoclass (talk) 19:22, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tried to make the changes as you recommended. Will this work?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:31, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for help. You are a great copy editor!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:57, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I looked, but could not find an appropriate infobox for this article. Which one would you suggest? (thanks)--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:54, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Infobox isn't absolutely necessary, but Template:Infobox restaurant (via Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink) looks like a good choice. Also thank you for the compliment and interesting article czar · · 19:59, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I was totally stumped what infobox might work. Now I have a lead. I'll play with that the next few days and see how it looks. I've look everywhere for a picture for it, even Flickr, but with no luck. I imagine one will show up someday.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's not still around, is it? If so, I can take a picture next time I'm in the city. czar · · 20:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Last I heard, it is still there. I assume you have the address. I stumbled upon the address while looking for a picture - so could find it again if you don't have it. I had the feeling that someday someone would take a picture of it and enter into the article. It looks like that day is coming sooner than I ever imagined.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:14, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the address. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:19, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Virtuix Omni

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The DYK project (nominate) 03:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Sarah Harrison (journalist)

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Gatoclass (talk) 10:52, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for The Crew (video game)

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Gatoclass (talk) 18:38, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Project Spark

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Gatoclass (talk) 17:53, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Below (video game)

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The DYK project (nominate) 01:38, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for TowerFall

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Gatoclass (talk) 09:21, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ridiculous Fishing

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Gatoclass (talk) 00:54, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Rymdkapsel

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:37, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

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[1] PantherLeapord (talk) 09:42, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Secret Ponchos

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:08, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you participated in the first deletion discussion for this article; it's up for deletion again at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Future Korean War (2nd nomination). If you'd like to comment again, feel free. Thanks, Ansh666 03:50, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Broforce article!

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Wanted to say thanks. Yes, I am one of the developers of Broforce.

I don't intend editing the Broforce Wikipedia page much (if at all) in the future. But in this instance there was a factual error (that was wrong in the Polygon article as well). The mistake had been mine in not understanding the context of a question (which was posted afterward in email), and I believe Alexa is kindly seeing to its correction in the source. I'm very inexperienced with Wikipedia editing, but I thought it better to fix the error before it propagated further.

Our website should have some screenshots on it: http://www.freelives.net Do we need to specify that the images are all under a free license? (I assume so now). (Our website is being redone slowly, it's kind of a mess).

I'll see what we can do about an animated gameplay gif. I should be able to get that done for Monday.

btw. Did you have anything to do with the TVTropes Broforce article? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Broforce

In any case. It's totally awesome that you did this for Broforce!

If you need to contact Free Lives it's probably best to get hold of Shaz (shaz@freelives.net) She is handling our marketing. EvanRobertGreenwood (talk) 09:09, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When I saw the fix, I had a feeling it was more than vandalism. (Looks like the article has been updated.) I'll email Shaz about the free license stuff—it either needs a license on the page or (alternatively) a WP:CONSENT form from y'all when submitted to Wikipedia. Let me know about the GIF? czar · · 18:10, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
TowerFall is a good, recent example of an article with an excellent GIF (see more) czar · · 19:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question from a talk page stalker

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Just a question, and forgive me if it's none of my business: how come your talk page doesn't display an index? With such a long talk page it would make it a lot easier to find current discussions. (For that matter, why not archive more often?) Just wondering. --MelanieN (talk) 05:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have NOTOC in a transcluded template—never expected my talk page to ever get this large, really. Re: archiving, maybe you can help with a thought I had. I don't like archiving partly because it breaks links to sections once they're archived. I know what the WP page says about redirects, but have you heard of someone redirecting to User_talk:Name/2013 (current year) or something of the like in order to circumvent the aforementioned archiving issue? Would appear as an edge case to me, especially if users archive to user_talk subpages anyway. czar · · 21:19, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't heard of that, and frankly hadn't thought about links to section titles. What I do: I delete procedural sections (like bot notices, talkback notices, invitations to comment etc.) immediately. I archive by hand rather than by a bot, once every six months. I do it by hand because there are a few discussions I want to keep live, plus I like to keep my barnstars live (out of vanity, frankly). There's no rule, everybody does it differently. But I have noticed at RfA some people look for a well organized talk page. Not to mention a little more substantial user page. MelanieN (talk) 23:07, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Noted. I'll give it an upgrade in the next few days, if only for ye talk page stalkers (ho ho ho). I'm not as much into the user page pomp, but I suppose I can curb my minimalism a bit in the name of transparency. I appreciate the advice czar · · 23:15, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
About talk page stalkers: Get used to it. Personally I have 65 people who have apparently put me on their Watchlist, and I have absolutely NO idea who most of them are. When you first become aware of this it is startling and even a little creepy, but it's to be expected if you are at all active around this place. --MelanieN (talk) 06:10, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind, really, though I assume having 65 makes it much weirder for you czar · · 15:07, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you should have closed the AfD just a few hours after another user relisted it for another week. I agree with you on the substance, but it's bad form. -- Y not? 22:05, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I felt that consensus had been clearly reached within the closing conditions and (per WP:RELIST) the relist had run its course, but I'll undo my closure as premature so it can run the remainder of its relist. czar · · 22:50, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
don't bother undoing, won't make a difference... -- Y not? 00:01, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Estadio Chile (poem)

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:02, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Terry Myerson

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just a reminder

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When you remove a link to a deleted article, consider also whether or not the text itself should be removed. Having a "see also" without a link makes no sense whatsoever. Daniel Case (talk) 18:48, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actually in the process of doing that right now (the original unlinking is tool-assisted), if you take a look at my contribs. Thanks for the tip czar · · 18:51, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. OK. Sorry about that. Daniel Case (talk) 19:13, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jacobsen

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Czar, I have already told you that I rephrased the problematic phrases. Above all, those little parts of the sentences such as the term "seven-year-old" and "Bedouin family" do not constitute plagiarism. Those are descriptive words used in the sources that I added to the article. There is no problem with that. I suggest the tag be removed or if you have any problems with close paraphrasing, edit them yourself. I already told you, blockquotes are the only thing that are not paraphrased for obvious reason because they are represented as quotes. Proudbolsahye (talk) 22:22, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please, let's not split the discussion. The issue was entire phrases and sentences being closely paraphrased or directly copied, not single terms. The onus of repairing those issues is on the DYK nom, not the reviewer, though I wish I had time to help. czar · · 22:33, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you !

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Just saw this, notifications worked! Thanks again, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:44, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

afd closes

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I agree with your recent close for Samantha Chase, but a redirect is an acceptable close under AfD, and an article for which both deletion and redirect are possibilities can be submitted there, even if the submitter prefers redirect, to see what the community thinks. It also makes sense to go there if the nom thinks that it could be redirected if there is a redirect possibility, but if there isn't it should be deleted. I think it has become the practice to use it as a better place to discuss these sort of complicated or really disputed redirect problems than the talk page. The WP policies, as usual, are inconsistent, and the guiding principle is NOT BURO. Where rules conflict is one of the best places to use IAR. DGG ( talk ) 03:23, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm aware that "redirect" is a fine AfD result—the note was for the nom, who was recommending redirection from the get-go and could have handled it from the talk page. As I've understood it, even if the nom "prefers redirect", AfD is not the right avenue (Wikipedia:Speedy keep #1). I know there have been many proposals to make the "D" in AfD into discussion from deletion, but they've remained proposals. Perhaps it is so that common practice has changed to be more lenient—I haven't quite observed that myself, though it may be so, but everything I've read in my attempts to be a good little NAC'er has said that AfD noms require explicit deletion arguments. As per NOT BURO, I get it, and I'd have acknowledged if the nom's intent was IAR for lack of a better avenue of discussion, but (as I imagine) in the Sam Chase case as in most others I've closed, the nom usually isn't aware that AfD is intended solely (or at least primarily) for deletion arguments and not general article discussion, so I try to leave a friendly, informative note. czar · · 03:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I saw a first AfDiscussion proposal about 5 years, and it was rejected; the second time, about 4 years ago, I made the proposal, and it was accepted, but nobody actually did the work to change all the policies, and by the time someone got around to it, there' wasn't enough consensus. Same lack of strong enough consensus has occurred twice after that, once my proposal, once someone else's. As is the case with many provisions of deletion policy, it's easier to get agreement on individual cases. And beyond redirects, AfD is in practice useful for forcing improvements in a hopelessly owned article: I usually say something like promotional, and though in principle it could be rewritten in practice it can't.
Obviously, NAC closes should be orthodox, and you're right to do only ones that fit the rule. IAR NACs have gotten several people into considerable trouble, as I'm sure you know. But I still have doubts about admins or nonadmins giving reasons not necessary to the case at hand, and which might to seen to foreclose workable possibilities. DGG ( talk ) 04:49, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I viewed my comment as a note of procedure rather than commentary, like leaving a comment on the nom's talk page, but faster and public for the rest of the watchers. Is it your position that I shouldn't have done that in the Chase case and for the future? And that NACs should not include speedy keeps by lack of deletion arguments? Because I've done those before, and I haven't had any negative feedback. Or are you just recommending discretion? czar · · 04:59, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My recent edit

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Hello, you seem to have reverted my recent and valid edit, on the Agror page. If you please read the section titled 'Companies' you will find that it has only 1 line giving an ad or website of a company. The rest of the section is in fact history and should be part of the history section. Thank you. 39.54.142.5 (talk) 06:04, 23 July 2013 (UTC)Prof Dr Ilyas Khan, Pakistan[reply]

You're right. I had intended to remove the companies line but you appear to have just beaten me to it. Good work and thanks for letting me know czar · · 06:11, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Czar, I notice you've accepted the copy-edit request for the above article at the GOCE Request page but haven't yet begun copy-editing it. Do you still intend to copy-edit the article? Please indicate your intentions within seven days, otherwise I'll strike your acceptance and allow another copy-editor to take the request. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:09, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for updating your intentions Czar; it's much appreciated. :-) Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:30, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Broforce

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Flashback (2013 video game)

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Orlady (talk) 21:32, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: VG FPCs

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I read your recent WPVG newsletter feature about FPCs. I've collected a number of free-use images and animated GIFs from indies recently, including Ridiculous Fishing, Vlambeer, TowerFall, Broforce, Virtuix Omni, Dan "Artosis" Stemkoski. Do you see anything that may be a good candidate (perhaps after some cleanup)? czar · · 22:23, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

One thing I'm concerned about is the size of the pictures. The criteria says that "Still images should be a minimum of 1500 pixels in width and height". A few seem to be close to the ballpark (Example). Though the some images with people in it might fail since reviewers might complain of the headroom and whatnot. GamerPro64 22:50, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I asked mainly to know your personal opinion as to which in specific have the highest EV and chances of passing, as this would be my first submission (assuming you have experience with the process, and especially because there don't seem to be many video game-related precedents to follow). Also do you know whether animated GIF submissions would be more or less preferable to stills? czar · · 00:19, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly the only thing Picture related that's under my belt was a picture from the Vietnam War that made it to Wikipedia:Valued pictures. And clicking on that shows that's not saying much. About GIFs, I know that File:Dustforce Trailer.webm was nominated but failed because it didn't get enough supports. So you may have to be aware that sometimes the nominations are on a time limit and have to get at least 5 Supports before promotion. GamerPro64 00:48, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good (just figured, since the feature article). I'll give it a go soon. czar · · 03:46, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dan Stemkoski

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Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Nick Plott

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Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE June Copy Edit of the Month Silver

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The Guild of Copy Editors' Award
Thanks for your submission to the June 2013 Copy Edit of the Month contest! For your work on Tali'Zorah, please accept this award from the WP:GOCE. —Torchiest talkedits 01:23, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Punta della Dogana

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Orlady (talk) 08:02, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Peer-Review/Copy-edit Help

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Hello! I'm looking for an editor who would be willing to give "Home" a look-over before I submit to FAN. Is there any chance you could review it? Thanks!--Gen. Quon (Talk) 03:40, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have other editing priorities (wikiwork backlog) right now, but let me know if you don't have any bites by mid-December, and I'll try to help out. czar · · 14:15, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Understandable. Thank you very much.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 14:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:GOCE July backlog drive award

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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For tirelessly copy editing more than 20,000 words during the Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 Backlog Elimination Drive, please accept this award along with the Guild's thanks. —Torchiest talkedits 05:29, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: 5K Articles, 4th Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Czar for copyediting 3 long articles (actually one LONG article worth three 5,000-word articles!) during the GOCE July Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! — Jonesey95 (talk) 03:43, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Longest Article, 1st Place
This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Czar for your copy edit of the 15,732-word article Gamal Abdel Nasser during the GOCE July Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for taking on this long article! — Jonesey95 (talk) 03:43, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Naughty Boy peer review

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Hi, If you get chance, would you consider taking a look at the following peer review request for List of songs written or produced by Naughty Boy? Many thanks → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 22:51, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar with the music FL standards and I'm running a wikiwork backlog right now, so I recommend asking within the WikiProjects for help. I can give the prose a quick copyedit if you can ping me in a few weeks and would still like one then. czar · · 14:09, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Czar, a copy edit of the prose would be much appreciated! :) → Lil-℧niquԐ 1 - { Talk } - 20:09, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mega Man

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Hey Czar. Letting you know that I'm taking you up on your offer to copyedit Mega Man (video game). GamerPro64 23:15, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping—fully finished now. Also left a peer review on the talk page. (diff) czar · · 13:57, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hoping for advice

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I'm watching The Legend of Dragoon and saw the most recent edit by the IP vandal (Plague Rat???). I was about to revert and give him a stern warning, but then I noticed you left him one already, sterner than I was planning. I'm now thinking I should let you revert it and block him (I get the idea that you can), but I was wondering: I'm fuzzy on the technical details of revert war rules. If I run into a guy that cannot be reasoned with and will only stop when he's blocked, do I still get in trouble for repeatedly reverting him? I'm thinking of the three-revert rule. I'll watch your page, so feel free to reply here. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 06:01, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(Plague Rat) I don't have the admin tools to block users, but I know how the usual pathways go. Mind the three-revert rule (which I know you do) and ask other editors for help instead of going back and forth. It's better to escalate the situation into a block or page protection than to passive-aggressively go back and forth. I recently moved and have been busy, but I'll be more responsive when you ping me in the future. czar · · 14:28, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July Copy Edit of the Month Gold!

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The Guild of Copy Editors' Award
Thanks for your submission to the July 2013 Copy Edit of the Month contest, and congratulations! For your work on Gamal Abdel Nasser, you've earned the Gold. Great job! —Torchiest talkedits 22:41, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox school district

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Thanks for pointing out the need for an example. checkY
SBaker43 (talk) 01:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC) So many opportunities; so little time. :-)[reply]

In general

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Leverage the possibility that you might volunteer for a professor in exchange for influencing the syllabus/grading system to better benefit and educate the professor about how to edit Wikipedia. That's my idea. =) Biosthmors (talk) 10:09, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More details and ideas at this page. I didn't quite give you as warm of a welcome so... Welcome to the education program. Best. =) Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 18:18, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Algo Henderson

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

History of feminism

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(please, kindly note that capitalization is for emphasis, not yelling purposes, and hope this note finds you in good health.)

I apologize for the length, and hope you will indulge me and read to the end. I am not seeking reply, simply expressing my thoughts on the matter you brought up to me. I am not interested in further debating the subjectivity of what is before us and I assure you I won't make a big deal over it after I hit the save button here, but I affirm that you are wrong that my reference was POV. You might want to check your own sense of "objectivity?"

As, the very reason Sanger fled the country was because she was to be prosecuted for her overt support of eugenics and racism, the very subject of her FAMILY LIMITATION writing, which was that which was mentioned in the feminism article directly (have you actually read that?). IF you have actually read FAMILY LIMITATION, you would be repulsed! ... not opinion, at all, but fact. Follow the link, read it. I did, and was shocked. Unless you believe in race supremacy, you will be repulsed. I could care less either way, I just wanted to know WHY (you know, one of the five W's of writing) Sanger's writing of FAMILY LIMITATION would make her have to flee the country (without having to follow a link to get there). My POV didn't decide the writing was illegal, and worthy of prosecution, the US courts did. Pertinent fact surrounding the writing.

As I was reading that particular section on the history of feminism, there was a gaping hole about why her writing would cause her to need to flee, and I had to search for the answer. The question WHY was glaring. If I wondered, I figured others must wonder, too, is all ... no agenda, no POV, see?

I now ask: Do you have a problem anytime someone points out fact, even if uncomfortable? Is Sager one of your personal heroines or idols? Are you for or against abortion? A feminist? (rhetorical questions, as I do not need/want to know) It is not POV on Sanger's biography page (in fact, it is treated specifically as two separate divisions), it is fact there, and here, too. But, if you feel the need to edit out facts about a person and her writings which have been specifically illustrated in an article, then all the power to ya, my friend! Do you like racists, I ask? (again, rhetorical) Looks to me like you just made a subjective POV edit (to protect your hero? rhetorical), but, don't fret I won't correct it. I leave that up to you to actually do the research and then fix it. and don't worry, I won't hold my breath. :-)

Because my inclusion in the article was not a POV, I don't care what you do with it, or, you can feel free to change it back to include the fact about WHY the subject of her writings would require the fleeing a country for fear of prosecution.

I hope I have not come across as snarky as it might possibly be read, as it was most assuredly not intended with any animosity. Did you know Sanger was, in fact, a race supremacist? It surprised me, too. whew! that was long! apologies for that. 76.180.38.195 (talk) 04:09, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One of WP's pillars is a neutral point of view. Your edit added undue weight to an aspect of her life (regardless of the claim's or her own veracity) that also affects the article's impartiality. That's quite frankly my only interest in this discussion. If you have reliable secondary sources you would like to add on Sanger's past, I suggest first discussing any controversial edits on her article's talk page. Take care czar  04:47, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Alas, I knew you wouldn't get it, which was why I knew I did not require a reply ...... however, thanks for trying anyway. (P.s. It was not, nor ever will be a "point of view," as I do not create someone's personal and documented history, so never mind anyway, maybe one day you will get that ....) And, again, the fact that you offered a reply when clearly none was required, and in fact requested none be provided, you proved my premonition, and shows me you can be confrontational about getting your way when you think you are correct, instead of moving on when clearly you already have "your way," regardless of your pov.
Peace, Love
It is your opinion (read:POV) that the inclusion "added undue weight to an aspect of her life," however, if it was so "weight"less, why did she flee the country? Why is it treated so extensively in her full biography page? (If that were the case, then, by your rule, for example, hitler should be a hero too, except don't mention that pesky "mass extermination / world domination" thingie (POVs) in the references).
It should be noted, however, that the knowledge of the beliefs a person holds, allows the reader to more correctly understand what exactly the author has written. This is a fascinating area of study called "historical context."
Regardless, in you I have already planted this seed, and perhaps one day it will be tall and bloom, so .... Again, no reply wanted. As I have said, I am not changing your edit, don't be afraid, so it is safe to move on, thus so, "czar," without further ado .... thanks? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.38.195 (talk) 14:15, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My aforementioned link explains how I and Wikipedia as a whole use the term and principle "NPOV". If you actually want to discuss this edit's content, please take it to the article's talk page. Also I would also appreciate a less condescending tone. czar  04:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I truly have no animus, as I have clearly stated. This isn't at all about POV. You demonstrate clearly that you have trouble following directions, yet you point out I need to follow "POV directions," so you get the concept of "directions, but still, you keep going on when you have clearly been asked to STOP. Is it that you must get in the last word, I ask? In grade school, we called those "sore winners." You got "your way." I tried to walk away. You mumbled something behind my back as I was leaving.
It is entirely ironical that you came to me with your POV, I explained mine, politely acquiesced (a definition you need to learn: accept something reluctantly but without protest.) to your predicted inability to reason, then, you spitefully throw out the condescension card when I clearly asked politely for no further contact. You see, one meets similar folk all the time on wiki, as you know, and it is best to politely "acquiesce," just as I have done (and will politely continue to).
Yet on and on you go. If you think I have been condescending, you need to revisit the dictionary .... at least my chosen screenname isn't "czar" (which can read:oppressive dictator).
It is to be no shame when one has much yet to grow, padawan (intended to be a cute mentoring, not condescending remark), growth I have much experienced, and continue to experience (intended demonstration of humility, look it up). Do not be angry, hostile or embarrassed, we all start somewhere (demonstration of empathy, read:been there, done that).
Now, can we silently (read:without ado) go our separate ways yet? (this is a test) I know I would like to... Honestly, I require no further contact. In fact, I beg..... ugh 76.180.38.195 (talk) 13:31, 18 September 2013 (UTC) P.s. I even brought you flowers ..... that is not condescending. I politely tried to end (avoid) this. I again repeat: I truly require no reply. (pretty please?)[reply]

List of book references for Rishi Valley School article

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Hello. As you had suggested I am providing a list of books that we will be using as references, so do let us on proper referencing formats. Rishi Valley School: The First Forty Years, by Roshen Dalal, editors Hans and Radhika Herberger, 2nd ed, 2007, Krishnamurti Foundation India, Rishi Valley, Andhra Pradesh, India. Life at School: An Ethnographic Study, Meenakshi Thapan ISBN 13: 0195679644 Birds of Rishi Valley and Regeneration of their Habitats, by S. Rangaswami and S. Shridhar, 1st ed, 1994, Krishnamurti Foundation India, Rishi Valley, Andhra Pradesh, India. Poetry with Young People, Gieve Patel, ISBN: 8126024291 Remembering G. V. Subba Rao: A Life of Dedication to Education, 1st ed 1980, G. V. Subba Rao Trust, Madras, India.

This is a partial list but we hope to add more. Dirachta (talk) 10:16, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Continued at Talk:Rishi Valley School#Sourcing. czar  01:07, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article hasn't undergone another's copyedit yet, so I'd appreciate if you could help out there. :> - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 09:21, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done, if you want to take a look. I left somewhat of a peer review on the talk page. Ping me back if you'd like a response, but it should be straightforward. czar  18:38, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

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See you are online and i would realy need some professional help. Would you pls so kind to have 5 minutes for me? kind regardsAdniim- (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Adniim-: Sure, what's up? Also, is your name a play on "admin"? czar  07:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah , good i found someone finaly witch is online and got some time. :)

There is a user from germany with is doing vadalism all the time in a article about a journalist. He is writing bad stuff in it, unsourced and then he is trying to delet it. I am pretty sure he is personal motivated cause he dont like this journalist. I am not quite sure how to deal with that and how to protect the article. He is coming all the time with diffrent ips and make new accounts specialy for that. I allready wrote it in "protect request" but seams everybody is sleeping. counld you support me a bit with that? its about this article Michel Von Tell Here is the link to protect request.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Michel_Von_Tell_.28edit.C2.A0.7C_talk.C2.A0.7C_history.C2.A0.7C_protect.C2.A0.7C_links.C2.A0.7C_watch.C2.A0.7C_logs.C2.A0.7C_page.C2.A0views_.2890d.29.29
thank you : no this is my first real nameAdniim- (talk) 07:14, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


hello - are you still here my friend? Adniim- (talk) 07:30, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) (Yes, was responding.) @Adniim-: Some quick advice at this late hour: first, since you are writing a biography of a living person, every statement must be sourced by a reliable source. Anything unsourced can be deleted. Second, the two other user accounts are indeed recent, and if you suspect they may be the same person, you can look into the rules for filing a "sockpuppet" report at WP:SOCK. Be careful not to get into a revert war. If you have a disagreement, the Wiki way is to start a dialogue on the article's page or that of the other editor and try to find consensus before going the nuclear option. Try to find common ground. As it stands, the article will likely fail page protection since any activity has been infrequent (and I'm relatively sure the edits in question don't even count as vandalism. Also if the AfD listing is illegitimate, post a comment on its page calmly instead of deleting it off the article. Wikipedians will add it back as a matter of procedure. And to clarify, you're saying "Adniim" is your real first name, because there are no such hits online. czar  07:33, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.facebook.com/adnin.zomba

it are 3 other user accounts- 2 ips and one special made account to do this. but dont you see this person just comes here cause he dont like this article and want to damage it? if you look in who is ip - you see it allways comes from same city from germany. you also see he knows the journalist and special found it here very quick but says he is not notable. he also changed the article 3-5 times with every time the same bad stuff - all unsourced and just to make it look bad. do you support such this? finaly you see a lot of sources in this article witch made it clearly notable? so i dont see there something to discuss? specialy not if it comes from a ip user witch clearly comes with some accounts and just 1 reason to wikipedia - to damage this article. what should i do now? do look this article now every hour to protect it agains this vadalism? i am a bit sad you cant help me - i specialy come to you and friendly ask for support - but now it looks like u more support the guy who is doing vadalism  :( Adniim- (talk) 07:45, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Adniim-: From the article edits I checked, it didn't look like vandalism (which is usually on par with adding "poop" in the middle of an article). I'd try to take the edits as constructive, but if you doubt the independence of the different editors, I'd file that sockpuppet report to sanction it from happening again. You'll have to present a detailed case, though. Dispute resolution is more than taking sides, but resolving issues. Writing an article is expected to be collaborative—people will change things and it's important to understand their edits when they do, otherwise you'll risk not collaborating well. I can help more in the US morning, if you drop me a note then. czar  07:53, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
hm ok thank you - maybe you could write a note under the delet disscusion tht this request comes from a sockpuppet.

thank you eaven if i am a bit sad you couldnt help me a bit more. have a nice day my friend Adniim- (talk) 08:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Czar. Why are you changing my signature in the AFD page and imply that i am a sockpuppet? I'm a german wikipedia user who created a new account for en.wikipedia. Adniim was banned from german wikipedia due to sockpuppet use and personal attacks. I can give you a link if you want. The article Michel von Tell is pure self promotion and it is my right to request deletion. I'm no troll or vandal--Richardharrison999 (talk) 12:19, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@Richardharrison999: If you read my responses above, I said, "it didn't look like vandalism", so no accusation there. Adniim had a question about multiple users/IPs being used by the same person, which I advised him on how to carefully handle. Re: the AfD, I added the {{spa}} notice, which is for single-subject users (those who have not edited outside an AfD article's subject), and is standard procedure—having nothing to do with sockpuppetry. If you have information on how the Michel Von Tell German article's AfD went down that would be helpful for its English AfD, it would be useful to calmly add it to the AfD page, which will sort itself out by way of procedure if everyone is calm. czar  13:34, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I am a bit alarmed because Adniim reported me on several sites (checkuser and article protection). Sorry if i overreact. The problem is, i did some reasonable edits on the article (as an ip) and Adniim simply reverted everything without responding or giving any reason. Next I made an account to nominate the article for afd and he just tried to deletete this and accuses me of being a sockpuppet, single purpose account or whatever. Because he was very agressively towards me on the AFD page and was clearly giving wrong information, i had problems to stay calm. Here are two links to german wikipedia. The first link goes to a checkuser result about sockpuppets sourrounding the M. von Tell article. Because of this a user called Adnnin was banned. [2] The second is the afd talk from the german article about the journalist and the movie. The result was that both articles were deleted.[3]. Sorry for any inconveniences. Thank you --Richardharrison999 (talk) 14:22, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
you see now what i was talking about - personal motivation - mr 1 edit account spend hours stalking me, descrediting me everywhere and and and unbelivabel how lonly this life must be Adniim- (talk) 15:15, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Isnt this the point? You dont think it is very unusal someone never did just 1 edit on wikipedia spend soooo much work and time to make delet a article? What else can this be then personal motivation? He is stalking me, following me everywhere, whole day, no arguments, just trying to descredit me, says i am a known sockpuppet also with no evidence, saying i am manipulationg his post the story got no end. i cant belive you allow all this. he allready broke many rules here. he shows very good he is a profi with wikipedia, he knows how everthing works perfect but 1 edit account, he edits articles witch are under construction, he put their information without source, he make deletion request to a article under construction, he say he is not personaly motivted but spendes 10 hours to do this, he says this guy is notable but also he says he knows evry detail of all shows and movies, following me everywhere, writing assertions everywhere and call it facts, writing 10 times the same offensive assert everywhere the story dosent end. he sure broke 10 wikipedia rules with his 1 edit account right now. i did not. sorry i dont get this how many room wikipedia gives to such a behavior Adniim- (talk) 16:47, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ok my friend. i say good bye. i spend enough time with wikipedia. this shows me here is quite a lot wrong.

and its not usful to spend time here if such a behavior of people witch are clearly no new users but act like it, witch are doing here stuff with CLEARLY personal ideological motivation, offensive behavior, stalking, discreting users everywhere , braking every rule - this guys are tolerated. and normal users like me witch spend their time here to improve wiki - made a lot of usefull edit, do nothing wrong finaly get no support at all against them. not good - you should support your good users much more and your bad users much less. and all his posts, his edits, his behavior - everything shows he is a person nobody needs here. and i am quite sure. after this - no more edits at all. but ok - you like it like that - so do. have a nice time here Adniim- (talk) 17:10, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You feel slighted, but it's worth considering what this other person feels. You are both relatively new to the English WP, so it would be wise to spend some time observing how the other WPedians do things here. We are here to build an encyclopedia collaboratively, which includes reducing friction and substantively building articles. I recommend spending most of your wiki time sourcing your articles and the little rest making succinct arguments. There is usually little need for debate if you make yourself clear the first time. czar  17:21, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]


this all got nothing to do with : wiki rules : honesty : or what other feel. you see from the beginning this is a personal motivated witch count. make your eyes up. he acts here like a wiki super pro. but is a 1 edit wonder, he found the article about guy "nobody knows" on a side "he never was before" within some hours,he spend now over 10 hours killing me and this article and did not a single other edit!!!, he was writing every detail out of the shows and the movie he knows 50 hours material but says he dont know him, he got no good arguments at all just unsourced stuff, he is telling everywhere i am a well known sockpuppet without any reasoon, all the arguments in the delet discussion are not real, read it!, the guys there seams to be his friends, they came all same time are against everything and if you bring an argument they have nothing against it - they just say no and write WP : BIO new like they like it, and finaly he is at least talking with them on their talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thomas.W#Sockpuppets , i dont want to know what he is doing privat. can you or dont want you to see all this??

Adniim- (talk) 20:34, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

seams half wikipedia is behind me :) look in the history of your talk page. someone deleted my last post :) and then he wrote me in my talk page. LAST WARNING - next time you get baned. then he undo it . said he thinks i wrote somewhere else. but then i wonder why he knows where i write. and why he give me a LAST WARNING because of a normal post. it seams there are many people watching me and looking for any chance i do something they can attack me for. tell me? what is wrong here???? i am just a normal user who did a lot of nice edits and wrote an article about a good, known swiss journalist. thats all. and now all huntig me. and mr 1 edit account, calls me everywhere sockpuppet and do the big conspiracy can do whatever he wants. he did not 1 usefull edit. but 20 bad. attack me 5 times and mobody cares. everybody seams to like that. am i realy the only person witch thinks something is very wrong here??? Adniim- (talk) 21:02, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

u seams to be for me the only normal person here. sad to say.

i spend a way to much time here talking about a small article. the one edit user spend way to much time to get it delet. the other guys spend to much time. and finally you spend way to much time on this. i told you whats going on here. and if you have a look at all the stuff our one edit friend did, how many energy and time he spend and how he is acting you see something smells a lot there. this time wasting crassness cant go on a week like this. this article should be listed already just for the fact it is the longest delet discussion in WP history :) you are an admin. the wp rules are more or less clear. read the end of the deletion dis. there i gave many reasons to keep. watch the article. keep in mind Switzerland is a small country and the article is new and under constitutions and do me (and yourself) a favor. save us all a lot of time and make a discussion yourself. or do it with 2-3 other admins u like. this is fair, the very fast and we dont got the problems with all this conspiracy, one edit account , personal motivation stuff. Adniim- (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2013 (UTC) this would be the by far best and only fair solution.[reply]

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Thank you for your participation in the ThatCampPhilly 2013 Edit-A-Thon, September 27, 2013, at the Chemical Heritage Foundation. We hope to work with you at more fun edit-a-thon events!

Great work on the new article and DYK! Thanks so much, Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:25, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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Hi Czar,

We just wanted to appreciate your assistance with our project to improve the Stedelijk Museum Amsterdam page. In particular, the comment you left about list-defined refs helped me keep cool under fire and fix a number of errors that resulted in scary red bolded text. As a new Wikipedian, I did not know that they existed, and your recommendation to try them out really helped our team.

Thank you so much! :) IchiniSanti (talk) 00:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, just wanted to encourage you to try your hand at crafting a better intro to Sega Genesis (re your edit summary). I've tried a couple of things locally, but I can't seem to do better than what's there now, but I agree that what we have is still clunky. (If only we could do the right thing and treat "Genesis" properly as the exception, rather than the rule - it would be far easier to make that thing flow elegantly.) — KieferSkunk (talk) — 07:34, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Sega Genesis#Lede rewrite czar  14:50, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Your GA nomination of Patio 29

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Thank you for advising student Wikipedians

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Thanks so much for offering advice to my students working on the achievement gap pages. Let me know if you have any concerns as they begin their work. DStrassmann (talk) 19:43, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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John Davis Pierce

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I found a reference for the John Davis Pierce article. He served in the Michigan House of Representatives and I found the legislative journal for 1848. There is a Michigan Legislature members database of past and present members that I had used. However, this database has vanished. I think it is still being worked on. I hope this helps. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 23:08, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good work. I was curious, myself. Where did you find the journal if you didn't have the database, and is there any other way I can verify his listing? czar  04:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Need help on Dragon's Crown (video game) row

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Hey, you offered help before to resolve a revert war over the "controversy" section on the Dragon's Crown. We have one (possibly two) contributors who are playing goalkeeper, even though the section in question was placed into a hidden, editable mode, the deletions continued. If you were to edit this section, perhaps it would carry more weight than the rest of us who have encouraged restraint. I'd hate for disciplinary action to be a consequence, but if this continues, I don't see any other path. BigJackman (talk) 00:24, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@BigJackman: I'd be happy to do that. Here's my recommendation: spend the time building out the reception section with summaries of the critical reception, things critics had in common, specific issues or praise from reviewers. (This is where any such edits would go, so I need a substrate otherwise those "controversial" comments stick out in undue weight.) Anyway, once the reception section is bigger, I'd be happy to help balance it or to address any sensitive additions that you may have avoided yourself. czar  00:31, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I will do this. I will try to add additional sources (there are many) that support the underlying allegation. It won't be labeled "controversy" for the time-being. When the section's larger, I'll let you know. Thanks. BigJackman (talk) 00:43, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@BigJackman: To clarify, I recommend avoiding the allegation for now, adding a well-balanced criticism section (about the game) and only then working in points critics have in common (representation of women, bad graphics, etc.). Let me know when you'd like a another pair of eyes. czar  00:56, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Now. The content is present again, per your suggestion. It's even-handed, though I took additional steps not to call attention to it. BigJackman (talk) 01:02, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I think we had a miscommunication. I'm suggesting that the article have a detailed Reception section similar to Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary#Reception where the general aspects of the game as seen through the eyes of critics are discussed. When that's done (several paragraphs worth), then we can talk about incorporating the "controversial" aspects of the reviews, and I'd be happy to do that part myself as a third party. czar  01:11, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I see. Give me a half-day to put together something of good quality. I have 80% of the necessary references there already, though the text is only about 50% of the way complete. BigJackman (talk) 01:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
With the latest revision being rejected i really think it is time to put this section to bed. There is not even agreement on the issues within elements creating the "controversy", it has not been argued or discussed merely stated that the character designs are sexist without room for a counter opinion. Negative reviews are few and far between and as i have argued before are already represented in the metacritic aggregate in the reception section, including individual reviews from a small minority of sites to support this idea that there was a supposed widespread outcry (despite the game being Vanillaware's most successful ever) within the write up gives these reviews undue weight.
If BigJackman had shown any interest in the rest of the article or had shown basic knowledge of the game itself outside of this supposed "controversy" then i would happily continue but at the moment all we are doing is treading the same old ground and the community consensus seems to be leaning towards dropping the section all together. Bigpigeon (talk) 12:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No contentiousness on my talk page, please. While I'm not sold on a monolithic "controversy" worthy of its own section, a few reviewers obviously spent significant space bemoaning an aspect of the game, which should have a small line or two in a detailed Reception section. That's a line (at most two) in a three paragraph Reception, not its own paragraph in a two paragraph section. We really don't need to discuss adding any lines on those reviewers until a balanced Reception section is built out, per undue weight rules. czar  13:39, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies, i didn't mean to sound contentious, i'm just am tired of discussing this one paragraph over and over again when there is work to be done and the page history shows there is little support for it within the community. I'll stick to the talk page itself from now on. Bigpigeon (talk) 16:05, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I completely understand. I think BigJackman understands that the content shouldn't come back until the article first has a weighted Reception section. I'm not watching the page, but I'm happy to come back and balance the section once all the content is there if someone pings me. czar  16:26, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE September Copy Edit of the Month Gold!

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Thanks for participating in the September 2013 Copy Edit of the Month contest. For your work on Golf (Virtual Boy), you've earned the Gold. Congratulations! We hope to see more from you in the future. —Torchiest talkedits 02:38, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Carl Kaestle

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DYK for Jamie Stewart (musician)

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DYK for Henry Caldwell Cook

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DYK for John Davis Pierce

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Comment

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My apologies for not getting back to you-

On John Davis Pierce I typed in: "Journal of the House of Representatives of the State of Michigan" (1848-Michigan state printer) on Google and the journal would popped up in form of a book. Then I would typed in John Davis Pierce's name and that is how the information would come up. As for Michigan Legislators database I think it was taken out for further improvements. The database was new. Hopefully I can add that as a citation once the database is up and running.
On Glenn Frank there is a link at the Wisconsin Historical Society about Glenn Frank that I added to that article.

I notice you live in Madison, Wisconsin; I hope you will join the WikiProject Wisconsin. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 00:30, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

John Hanson Twombly

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Hi-I was wondering if you would be willing to start an article about John Hanson Twombly? Twombly was President of the University of Wisconsin 1871-1874 and had problems with the UW Board of Regents to the degree they asked him to resign even though he was liked by the faculty and students. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 21:45, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds interesting. I'll give it a go next weekend. czar  23:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Voilà! DYK length. czar  17:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Progressive schools

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OK The category has been emptied. Are you an administrator? If so please delete. JMcC (talk) 16:49, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Second thoughts. I have put a subst tag on it myself. JMcC (talk) 19:11, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There was a subst error in the CFD, but it qualified for speedy and is gone now czar  17:44, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Your GA nomination of Arnold Ross

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The article Arnold Ross you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Arnold Ross for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Bruce1ee -- Bruce1ee (talk) 07:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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re:Deathrow req

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I'm sorry to say that I don't currently have access to my GI collection. I recently moved, and most of my things are in boxes at the other end of the state. Sorry about that, sesuprime 18:49, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. Best regards with the move! czar 

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November 2013 GA Thanks

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This user has contributed to Arnold Ross good articles on Wikipedia.

On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, I thank you for your editorial contributions to Arnold Ross, which recently was promoted to WP:GA.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:00, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for tagging it on Commons - will try to get the source to email OTRS with permission. Hopefully that will help! Daria Cybulska (WMUK) (talk) 09:09, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi-The Wisconsin Blue Book 1942, pg. 583 has information about the Wisconsin 1940 Fall Primary Election. Even though Glenn Frank was killed in an auto accident 2 days before the primary election he came in third in the primary election. You may want to look at it and see if you should add it as a citation. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 14:06, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like fifth place after La Follette, Clausen, Koehler, Finnegan based on [4]. Do you have a reference in prose somewhere? czar  19:39, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirected instead of prod on List of Xbox Live Arcade games (Xbox 360)

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I went ahead and redirected List of Xbox Live Arcade games (Xbox 360) to List of Xbox Live Arcade games since I thought it was a plausible search term. If you want to send it to AfD instead, I would have no problem with it. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:42, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me. Thanks for letting me know czar  19:25, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for creating this article, i wish this got more attention now.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:59, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm planning to bring that whole era to featured topic status, but it's going to take a while. In terms of getting attention, I think that's a good place to start czar  19:28, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Deathrow (video game)

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DYK for Sifting and winnowing

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Article feedback

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Hi Czar,

I saw you checked off a couple of reader comments as 'useful' (the feedback page for GTA V). For instance, "sales figures in copies sold world wide by country should be shown." or "is there any pc cd/dvd for gta5?" Maybe I don't fully grasp the reader feedback system yet, but for a lot of these questions my answer would either be a) read the article more carefully or b) requests go against general guidelines. What is it that makes these remarks as useful? I also noticed on other articles that a lot of times ratings are requested. Should this mean we need to reinsert the ratings system? --Soetermans. T / C 11:18, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's "useful" only in the sense that it's actionable and it could help the page. If you feel the comment has been addressed, feel free to file it as "resolved" (or if not sure, bring it to the talk page). Lots of stuff has changed since that feedback was collected. What ratings system are you referencing? czar  05:19, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But how is it "actionable"? You marked "is there any pc cd/dvd for gta5?" off as useful, but the article clearly says that the game was released for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. I would say "no action needed", as to me that person didn't read the article carefully enough.
Three comments say something about having ratings there, but per the WP:VG discussion, there was decided not to have them on VG articles. I noticed on other articles also that ratings are often requested, but maybe to bring them back is better for a WP:VG discussion. --Soetermans. T / C 18:35, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If it's resolved, you can clear the item. (The PC comment's only there because someone had trouble finding it.) I don't have feelings on whether the ESRB rating is included in the article, but I'd only make a point of including it if the RS do the same. That's the type of feedback I'd bring to the talk page for discussion. I'm not active on the article, so it's left for someone else to investigate, if they so choose. czar  20:47, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if you could give it another review quick. I'm a bit out of sorts at the moment so it's hard for me to really read in myself as to how much of what you found still remains. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 04:23, 13 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Took a quick look and left notes on the talk czar  15:41, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The article University of Wisconsin Experimental College you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:University of Wisconsin Experimental College for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Quadell -- Quadell (talk) 13:52, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Holiday wishes!

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Czar, thanks for your hard work this year, you deserve wonderful holidays!

I wish you success and happiness in your endeavours for this coming year, and I hope we'll be able to carry on improving the wonderful project that is Wikipedia together! Keep rocking on! :)

  • Salvidrim!, wrapping up another great year of collaboration with y'all!

I have nominated List of Virtual Boy games for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Red Phoenix build the future...remember the past... 22:40, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edits to Dix Hills, NY and Todd Baker

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With all due respect, I am completely baffled by your deletions and warnings on the above referenced pages. As part of an after-school project at the Dix Hills library, we have given workshops on research. One of the assignments has been to add research findings to Wikipedia. It has become rather frustrating because more often than not, the entries made are often deleted. What we've taught here is to be respectful in editing. Editing is not simply deleting, but requires research and re-writing skills. The changes you made did ot rely on research. In fact, it appears that you also failed to even read the annotations given, which clearly state that Mr. Baker resides in Dix Hills. Further, one cannot volunteer for a town's fire department unless they are actually a resident of that town. You also took things a step further and have attempted to disparage Mr. Baker with claims on his page that he is not as described on the page. Let me tell you, we chose Mr. Baker as one of our subjects because he is indeed a resident here and is known for his work in television and the fire department. Your changes thus amount to malicious defacing of Wikipedia. I ask that you revert to the earlier changes or at the very least, do your own research. If you do not comply, I will personally contact Mr. Baker as well as senior executives at Wikipeda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by2600:1001:B11F:F1D5:E9D1:D22C:65EA:911F (talk) 01:35, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you are baffled, you can start by following the policy links that I posted (for the plainest version, start with WP:42). If you are as familiar with WP as you say you are, you'd already know about the notability criteria and that Twitter and LinkedIn are never considered reliable sources. I understand that Baker may do wonderful work in your community, but he doesn't meet WP's inclusion guidelines as an article topic and your library workshop is not adequately preparing you for WP editing. I would think that if you are having trouble with your entries being deleted, you may want to introspect on your own actions before WP:THREATening people with experience who might otherwise be in a position to help you out. Happy holidays czar  05:06, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Czar, there is some confusion. By no means are we saying that Mr. Baker deserves inclusion because he is also a firefighter, no matter how noble that line of work is. He was chosen because of his many years as a producer, as the man who created the world's first all female formula race team, and as a producer with the high profile Howard Stern Show. That most definitely qualifies him for inclusion as per WP rules. As for other sources, my students have already sent links to me this evening from The New York Times, Newsday, and the Huffington Post and these will he added shortly. And as these very resourceful kids have shown tonight, editing involves research and not simply deletion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.236.98.144 (talk) 05:47, 28 December 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

All of those accolades do not matter to WP if they do not culminate in coverage in reliable, independent, secondary sources. I look forward to seeing suitable references added. And please remember to assume good faith when condescending about what constitutes "research". I had found no substantive mentions in The New York Times or Newsday, and I'm sure you know that there is a difference between The Howard Stern Show and the defunct Howard Stern on Demand/Howard TV. Take care czar  06:07, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunately the students have found substantive mentions in those periodicals. So, thank you for the push. It gives the kids real life experience as to what they may at times experience in a real life work situation. We trust too that given your integrity that you'll continue to remove names from the Dix Hills page where reference exists and that this is not a one-time effort direted at the subject in question or at the efforts of these kids. A residual benefit to all of this can be to leave the students with a positive impression of Wikipedia. And we too can be of help where Dix Hills is concerned. Many of the entries for notable residents are for individuals who no longer live in the community or have never lived in it at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1001:b104:527c:5945:120:86d:b880 (talk) 20:41, 28 December 2013‎ (UTC)[reply]

The tradition here is WP:SOFIXIT. Also your reference to "real life" belittles the much realer life your students lead when free from your class. czar  20:46, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's incredibly inappropriate and uncalled for. Maybe this has become some strange territorial vendetta on your part. I hope not, but perhaps a moderator is needed. is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1001:b104:527c:5945:120:86d:b880 (talk) 22:22, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing to discuss, as this is completely off topic from the article and its unresolved issues. You are welcome to stop moralizing and threatening me on my talk page whenever you wish. czar  23:21, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]