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::Thanks, hadn't thought about that angle for the second one, and thanks for revisiting the first one. Now let's hope that his edits don't indicate that you were right the first time ;-) [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 08:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC) |
::Thanks, hadn't thought about that angle for the second one, and thanks for revisiting the first one. Now let's hope that his edits don't indicate that you were right the first time ;-) [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 08:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:::You are welcome. Thank you for taking the time to thank me for my response in this matter. It is most appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 08:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC) |
:::You are welcome. Thank you for taking the time to thank me for my response in this matter. It is most appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 08:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Given the outcome of the above SPI, you might wish to take another look at your close of the DRV of [[The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University)]] at [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 October 1]]. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 14:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Other neat portal ideas for longer term
- Longer term ideas to think about from other portals:
- Events section, like: "On this day" e.g., Biography, Religion, United States; "Selected anniversaries" e.g., War; "Calendar" at Holidays. Interesting idea of "Month selected anniversaries", at Oregon.
- Model intro with some rotating images, after Portal:Oregon, Portal:Indiana, Portal:Iceland/Intro and Portal:Philosophy of science/Intro.
- Revamp DYK sections w/ free-use images, model after Portal:Criminal justice and Portal:Oregon.
- Portal palettes at User:RichardF/Palettes/Portals. Comparable color schemes can be developed from the various hue lists at User:RichardF/Palettes. Also see Portal:Box-header.
- If there are a lot of categories, then categories section to 2 columns, like in Portal:Indiana.
- Also take some time to check out style/formatting at Portal:Indiana Cirt (talk)
Note to self
- MakeRef
- Reflinks
- Citation tool for Google Books
- Citation tool for DOIs
- Tools, part 1: References, external links, categories and size
independent reliable secondary sources
- {{findsources}}
- Refs inside scroll box
<div class="reflist4" style="height: 200px; overflow: auto; padding: 3px; border: 1px solid #ababab">{{reflist|2}}</div>
- Cite templates
<ref>{{cite book| last = | first = | authorlink = | coauthors = | title = | publisher = | year = | location = | page = | url = | doi = | id = | isbn = }}</ref> <ref>{{cite news| last = | first = | coauthors = | title = | work = | language = | publisher = | page = | date = | url = | accessdate = }}</ref> <ref>{{cite journal|last =| first=| authorlink=| coauthors=|title=|journal=|volume=|issue=|page=|publisher=|location = | date = | url = | doi = | id = | accessdate = }}</ref> <ref>{{cite web| last = | first = | authorlink = | coauthors = | title = | work = | publisher = | date = | url = | format = | doi = | accessdate = }}</ref>
- Citation model
- Body text in-cite
<ref name="REFNAME">[[#LASTNAME|LASTNAME]], p. PAGENUMBER</ref>
- References section
(reference template from WP:CIT)
*<cite id=LASTNAME>REFERENCE</cite>
- Different model
- Template:Citation
- Template:Harvnb
- Example: <ref name="REFNAME">{{Harvnb|LAST|YEAR|p=PAGENUMBER}}</ref>
See models at The General in His Labyrinth and Mario Vargas Llosa.
More at Wikipedia:Harvard citation template examples.
Dispatch
Cirt, Awadewit suggested that you might be interested in writing a Signpost Dispatch article on Featured portals (the only area of featured content we haven't covered). Sample previous articles are at {{FCDW}}. We've covered:
- Featured content overview
- Peer review
- Did you know
- Featured lists
- Good articles
- Featured sounds
- Featured topics
- Images
- TFA
- And Featured articles many times: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-07-21/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-04-07/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-10-13/Dispatches
None of them start out looking like that: if an editor initially just chunks in some text, many others chip in to tweak it up to Signpost standards. For example, someone wrote this, which Karanacs, Royalbroil and I turned into this, so if you just chunk in some text as a start, others can help finish it off. Another example, I put in this outline, and Karanacs brought it up to this. Other editors have written almost complete and clean Dispatches without much need for other editing. If you're interested, please weigh in and coordinate at WT:FCDW In case you're interested, you could just begin sandboxing something at WP:FCDW/Portals and pop over to WT:FCDW to leave a note when you're ready for others to help out. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Will mull this over and most likely draft something up. Cirt (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2108 (UTC)
Razzies progress
- 15th Golden Raspberry Awards through 29th Golden Raspberry Awards = reformatting process done.
- Note: Going to have to go back and model these after the modifications made subsequently to 29th Golden Raspberry Awards.
- 29th Golden Raspberry Awards - so far only one expanded with sourcing research. (WP:FL)
- Razzie Award for Worst New Star = reformatting process done, next to use Talk:Razzie Award for Worst Picture as model to reformat other pages in Category:Golden Raspberry Awards by category (with subsection breaks by decade)
Bacon WikiCup 2011
- Pages
- Wikipedia:Bacon WikiCup
- User:SuperHamster/Bacon Challenge 2011
- User:SuperHamster/Bacon WikiCup 2011
- User:SuperHamster/Bacon WikiCup 2011/Submissions
- History
- Ideas
- Films? — Bacon Grabbers, Canadian Bacon, Slaughterhouse (film) (aka Bacon Bits)
- Books? — search on authors from prior year, also: Don't Forget the Bacon! by Pat Hutchins; Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon by Craig Fass, Brian Turtle, and Mike Ginelli
- Drinks? — Bacon and Tomato Sandwich, Bacon Liquor & Tomato
- Quality upgrade? — quality upgrade on articles from prior year: Everything Tastes Better with Bacon, The Bacon Cookbook, The BLT Cookbook, Bacon: A Love Story
-- Cirt (talk) 10:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- Started peer review for one from prior: Wikipedia:Peer review/Everything Tastes Better with Bacon/archive1. -- Cirt (talk) 10:39, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- WP:WikiProject Bacon, {{WikiProject Bacon}}, {{User Bacon}}. -- Cirt (talk) 20:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- Addressed most of the stuff from the peer review. Next up: book, portal. -- Cirt (talk) 17:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Portal done, at Portal:Bacon. -- Cirt (talk) 11:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Everything Tastes Better with Bacon peer review = done. Next up for peer review = Bacon: A Love Story. -- Cirt (talk) 10:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Bacon: A Love Story - up for peer review, now ongoing at Wikipedia:Peer review/Bacon: A Love Story/archive1. -- Cirt (talk) 21:40, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Created article = Don't Forget the Bacon!. -- Cirt (talk) 07:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Bacon: A Love Story - up for peer review, now ongoing at Wikipedia:Peer review/Bacon: A Love Story/archive1. -- Cirt (talk) 21:40, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Everything Tastes Better with Bacon peer review = done. Next up for peer review = Bacon: A Love Story. -- Cirt (talk) 10:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Portal done, at Portal:Bacon. -- Cirt (talk) 11:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Addressed most of the stuff from the peer review. Next up: book, portal. -- Cirt (talk) 17:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- WP:WikiProject Bacon, {{WikiProject Bacon}}, {{User Bacon}}. -- Cirt (talk) 20:20, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
DYK in T:AH
I don't know if there is a way to do a DYK action, but note that there is now a "dykentry" field in T:AH.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- I do not know how.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Kutch Kadva Patidar
Please review deletion of article Kutch Kadva Patidar. I have already given resons on deletion talk page i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kutch_Kadva_Patidar Thanks Kutchipatel (talk) 15:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please do not post to WP:AFD pages after closure. -- Cirt (talk) 11:25, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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Sauganash Hotel
On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, I commend you on your editorial contributions and diligent review. Please post this on your user page.
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--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you! -- Cirt (talk) 06:45, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Yellow Monkey- his abuse of authority
Please read my user pageandycjp (talk) 06:43, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Ok I am sorry if you regard it as such. Please could you undelete Buddhism and violence as the page should be improved not deleted. His judgement was too hasty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andycjp (talk • contribs)
one section has one sentence
One section has one sentence. That looks pretty no-can-do-ish. I'd move it to the section below, but leave that to you. later! • Ling.Nut 11:59, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. -- Cirt (talk) 12:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Frankie Martinez entry
Hi Cirt,
I would like to provide the additional support requested for Frankie Martinez's entry.
So do I request to have the article restored to my userspace so I can work on it to attempt to address the problems that led to the deletion?
Please advise on the next appropriate steps. Thank you.
Xenergizerx (talk) 17:49, 22 October 2010 (UTC) Gary gsu@abakuadancers.org
Done, now at User:Xenergizerx/Frankie Martinez. -- Cirt (talk) 04:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Re: extremedb
It seems to me these review periods were brief, and it seems likely that only a limited number of persons contributed to the discussion.
I know that I would have added my thoughts if I'd known a discussion of this article was taking place. After the first "defense" of the article, the deletion request was withdrawn. And then a second deletion proposal was raised and quickly finalized without any defense being given.
Arguments in favor of the article, stated in the first defense, received no response. Instead, the article was deleted based on (as far as I can see) two rather vague _opinions_ (not arguments).
Do you not agree?
I request that the discussion be reopened so that questions can be properly addressed. As I understand it, this is possible on Wikipedia.
Svpcom (talk) 21:47, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- I am sorry but this has already undergone multiple discussions, first at WP:AFD, and more recently at WP:DRV, at page Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 October 13. The deletion was endorsed. -- Cirt (talk) 04:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I believe that the "debate" that occurred surrounding this deletion was interpreted incorrectly. I request that the discussion be re-listed for the following reasons:
- No consensus was reached. This is evident in the fact that the first individual requesting deletion _withdrew_ his request, and in the second discussion, only two people gave comments. Are you arguing that two individuals make a consensus?
- The discussion leading to the deletion was superficial. In the first discussion, one editor agreed to make requested changes, and no evidence was cited to show these changes did not occur. In the second discussion, the two individuals arguing in favor did not address specific article content; rather, one stated that the page "reads like an ad" and the second used a single adjective, "spam". No justifications, based on article content, were given to support these descriptions. If re-listing does not occur, it will be correct to say the page was deleted based on the editors' whim rather than on reasoned discussion -- and that should not be permitted.
- Possible vandalism/malicious changes to article in period leading up the deletion. I would like to see the "final" article that was deleted, as well as its history. I am concerned that changes were made to the article specifically to justify the charge that it is "spam".
- Svpcom (talk) 19:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, but especially after already having gone through WP:AFD and WP:DRV, not much else to do with this particular subject. -- Cirt (talk) 22:46, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- I believe that the "debate" that occurred surrounding this deletion was interpreted incorrectly. I request that the discussion be re-listed for the following reasons:
User:Cwestllc
FYI: [1]. I'm nuking it since it's not appropriate talk page discussion, but I figured I'd let you know in case the user becomes active again, or if you wanted to follow up on it. Gigs (talk) 02:17, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Deletion review for Emily Schooley
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Emily Schooley. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Misssinformative (talk) 09:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
The page was submitted for deletion by employees at Frozen North Productions, after Schooley outed them for poor business practices. See (http://emilyschooley.com/blog/?p=185)
The page existed for months, and both myself and others made efforts to find more credible articles with neutral points of view from reliable sources.
That it was "coincidentally" submitted for deletion just after Schooley posted her blog post is suspicious. Myself and others made efforts to revise the page after the original request for deletion was submitted, and tried to include more articles that met WP:N and WP:NPOV
We would like to see it undeleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misssinformative (talk • contribs) 08:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- If you like you could work on a proposed draft version, within a subpage of your userspace. I could make such a copy available, if you wish it. -- Cirt (talk) 08:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, I suppose. Are you able to see the differences between the page when it was submitted for deletion originally and the revised version from when it was deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misssinformative (talk • contribs) 08:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Done, now at User:Misssinformative/Emily Schooley. -- Cirt (talk) 08:31, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. So what exactly can I do with that and how do I get it undeleted? How do I access the page from my pages? Misssinformative (talk) 08:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Replied at user's talk page. -- Cirt (talk) 08:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Can you tell me what is unsatisfactory or does not meet notable guidelines for actors in the current version?Misssinformative (talk) 09:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Replied at user's talk page. -- Cirt (talk) 08:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. So what exactly can I do with that and how do I get it undeleted? How do I access the page from my pages? Misssinformative (talk) 08:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, I suppose. Are you able to see the differences between the page when it was submitted for deletion originally and the revised version from when it was deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misssinformative (talk • contribs) 08:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
I am also wondering about this. Having met Emily Schooley , seen her speak at conferences, and seen her work on screen, I feel that she meets the general notability guides at least, if not the notable guidelines for actors. I can provide scans of the conference guide in which I have seen her live at if the video is not enough evidence to show that she has done public speaking on the film industry. She is not a close personal friend of mine in any way, but she is someone that I have enjoyed seeing at conferences and watching her work develop over time. She has been credited for a significant amount of work, perhaps even statistically significant outside of one standard deviation above the mean based upon the mean of colleagues in her age range and gender. I wonder how an authority such as IMDB can have a page with the popularity that it does, and a resource such as Wikipedia will remove what I see as a page on someone wholly worth noting. That being said, I am seemingly misunderstanding the guidelines considering that the article was in fact deleted. I would like to endeavor to have her page restored. Would you be willing to guide me on how to correct the page so that it is in compliance said guidelines? Chaulis1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC).
- Deletion review was closed, with result deletion endorsed, at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 October 23. -- Cirt (talk) 21:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Please close WP:BLP/N
Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Paul_Watson has run its course. — BQZip01 — talk 08:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I hesitate to protect the talk-page. Please post a request to WP:RFPP about that, linking to the WP:BLPN thread. That will hopefully draw in more admins to look into this. -- Cirt (talk) 08:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Don't really care about the page protection so much, but I see no reason to keep the BLP "discussion" open. — BQZip01 — talk 00:37, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
About Ms Sima yari
Forwarded Message ----
From: Dr. Abbas Milani amilani@stanford.edu Sent: Fri, October 22, 2010 9:14:53 AM Subject: "Sima Yari "
Dear Sir/Madam: It has come to my attention that the entry on Ms Sima Yari has been, for some reason, eliminated from the Wikipedia. I know of her work, her published poetry, and the defiance of her voice. May be it is just this defiance that has caused the malignant urge of some unknown force or person to try to eliminate her. I have been under the impression that yours is a site given to the democratic reflection of a plurality of voices; judgment on the ultimate quality of each voice is up to the readers and critics, and should not be left to those who have the patience or know-how to act as censors and forces of elimination. There is often not much of a distance between elimination from the page to elimination from the public domain, and even more, physical elimination. We must stop the shameful process where it begins. Restate her entry for she deserves presence, and not elimination. Best, Abbas Milani
Hamid and Christina Moghadam Director of Iranian Studies
Research Fellow/Hoover Institution
Stanford University
417 Galvez Mall,
Encina Hall West, Room 210
Stanford, CA 94305-6045
Tel: 650.721.4052
Fax: 650.723.3010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.158.16.248 (talk) 15:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- After WP:AFD deletion discussion, was userfied for userspace draft work, to User:Nematg/Sima Yari. Suggest you get in contact with Nematg (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 21:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
clarification please...
You closed Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Geo Swan/Guantanamo/Ibrahim Zeidan reports Abu Zubaydah image used as an interrogation tool. But you didn't explicitly say why you closed it as "delete". After re-reading WP:NOTWEBHOST I honestly don't see how this section of WP:NOT, cited by practically everyone who weighed in on the discussion, is relevant.
To what extent should I regard your closure as an endorsement of their WP:NOTWEBHOST sentiments? Geo Swan (talk) 15:31, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- It was an assessment of the overall consensus expressed by the community from the deletion discussion. -- Cirt (talk) 21:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
*pokes*
What's with you and bacon? Just wondering. :P SilverserenC 22:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Have you not seen Wikipedia:Bacon WikiCup? -- Cirt (talk) 22:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have not. O_O So, this one ends March, 2011? I want to join! :D SilverserenC 22:32, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Instructions and how to sign up, listed at User:SuperHamster/Bacon WikiCup 2011, but you may also want to leave a note for user talk page of SuperHamster (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 22:33, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have not. O_O So, this one ends March, 2011? I want to join! :D SilverserenC 22:32, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Cirt, you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/88.7 FM Campbell River, British Columbia as delete and deleted the redirect 88.7 FM Campbell River, British Columbia. Would you delete CHVI-FM as well? (The article was moved to that title during the AfD discussion.) Thanks, Cunard (talk) 02:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Done! -- Cirt (talk) 02:19, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for the quick response. Cunard (talk) 02:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 08:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for the quick response. Cunard (talk) 02:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Confusion over article creation
Hello Cirt. I just thought that I would let you know that the message that you left for Bradley0110 about the article Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (film) probably should have been left on the talk page for User:The Editor 155. In looking at the edit history here [2] Bradley created a redirect in '08. Then last week The Editor undid that redirect and created the article. Please don't think that this message is stating that you did anything wrong. I thought that the situation is a little confusing so I hoped that this info might help. Cheers and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 20:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 21:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Beautiful Heartache
The article Beautiful Heartache you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Beautiful Heartache for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:55, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University) - bit of a mess
Hi there, I'm contacting you because you because you handled the original restoration of the article after this deletion review . Following User:Racepacket's recent move of The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University) to Cornell literary societies and subsequent editing, User:Cmagha has cut and pasted the original version of that article to The Irving Literary Society and in the process removed all the edit history as well as creating an unattributed content fork. Also, Talk:The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University)/Archive 1 was not moved when Talk: The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University) was moved to Talk:Cornell literary societies and is now stranded, although I've added a link to it at the newly titled talk page.Could you sort this out, if nothing else to merge the page histories? If not, do you know an administrator who could handle this? I've got your page on watch, so please respond here. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Probably should be dealt with, via report to WP:ANI. Make sure to notify the user(s) involved. -- Cirt (talk) 08:59, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, I wasn't sure if was appropriate to bring to ANI. Have done so now (and notified all and sundry). You'll find the ANI discussion here. (I've mentioned that I was bringing it there on your suggestion.) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 10:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
WA deletions
Which RFD discussion are you refering to? Simply south (talk) 11:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- What is "WA deletions" ? -- Cirt (talk) 11:56, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- The sandbox deletions. Simply south (talk) 12:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Sandbox/test. -- Cirt (talk) 12:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Sandbox/Word_Association. Simply south (talk) 12:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- That is from 2007. -- Cirt (talk) 12:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Nonetheless it still applies. Simply south (talk) 12:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, that is incorrect. Please see WP:Consensus can change, thanks. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 12:44, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- I meant to say that i feel some of it still applies. Simply south (talk) 12:48, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- I understand that, but community processes determined otherwise. Sorry, -- Cirt (talk) 12:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- I meant to say that i feel some of it still applies. Simply south (talk) 12:48, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, that is incorrect. Please see WP:Consensus can change, thanks. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 12:44, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Nonetheless it still applies. Simply south (talk) 12:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- That is from 2007. -- Cirt (talk) 12:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Sandbox/Word_Association. Simply south (talk) 12:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Sandbox/test. -- Cirt (talk) 12:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- The sandbox deletions. Simply south (talk) 12:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
As none of the word association pages were tagged or discussed in the MfD I've started a DRV to get them reinstated, at least pending actual discussion of their merits or otherwise: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 October 25#Wikipedia:Sandbox/Word Association/Ultra Game. Thryduulf (talk) 13:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Request from KS
Kindly stay off my talk page with your contentious and unfounded accusations. If you want to discuss article improvement, I am more than willing to do so on the article talk page(s). - Best regards- KeptSouth (talk)
- Please do not: 1) refer to individual users in edit summaries [3], 2) Make controversial edits with zero edit summary whatsoever [4], and 3) Use deceptive edit summaries while making controversial edits to a WP:BLP page objected to in ongoing discussion on the talk page [5]. Thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 15:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
DYK issue
Hello! Your submission of Jessica Feshbach at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! The article does meet expansion, length and sourcing requirements, but the hook seems lacking to me. Maybe a punchier version could be created or a new hook provided from the ample material in the article. Alansohn (talk) 16:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
AfD Merge
If I close an AfD as merge, can I just copy and paste to the new article, or does an admin need to do a history merge? CTJF83 chat 21:54, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Help:Merging#Selective paste merger (with the wonderful shortcut WP:SMERGE) has the answer: no admin tools needed, but remember to put the details in edit summaries. BencherliteTalk 21:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks, CTJF83 chat 22:01, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Deletion
User:Sandbox for user warnings - why? THEMONO™ 02:43, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Sandbox/test. -- Cirt (talk) 02:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Harsh?
Hi Cirt. I'd suggest that this [6] is rather harsh and not even handed. I suspect from his/her posts that English is not a first language and from reading multiple posts the editor sometimes uses the language in a way that is not customary for a native speaker. As well, this is a contentious article and contentious discussion and there are some clear good faith concerns, which we are hopefully dealing with on the talk page. Unfortuantaly your warning isolates one editor when there are other editor concerns. Edith says the comments were not personal and given the language situation, I would tend to accept that. At any rate this is just my opinion. Best wishes.(olive (talk) 04:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC))
- Thanks for your take on it. As always, on article talk pages, users should strive to avoid comments directly addressed about other single individual editors, and instead focus on discussion of content, reliable sources, and how to improve the quality of the article. -- Cirt (talk) 04:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
OzHarvest Deletion
Hi Cirt,
On september 1st, 2009 Our page under "OzHarvest" was deleted.
Is it possible for us to get this page back? Thankyou,
Regards MichelleOz —Preceding unsigned comment added by MichelleOz (talk • contribs)
- Who is "our"? Who is "us"? -- Cirt (talk) 07:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- "Us" would be the now blocked OzHarvest (talk · contribs) and article OzHarvest which was obvious advertising and non-notable anyway. S.G.(GH) ping! 08:36, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- That account does not yet appear to be blocked? -- Cirt (talk) 08:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- It's Ozharvest (talk · contribs), I think. Jafeluv (talk) 09:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. -- Cirt (talk) 09:22, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- It's Ozharvest (talk · contribs), I think. Jafeluv (talk) 09:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- That account does not yet appear to be blocked? -- Cirt (talk) 08:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- "Us" would be the now blocked OzHarvest (talk · contribs) and article OzHarvest which was obvious advertising and non-notable anyway. S.G.(GH) ping! 08:36, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Opps, yes. Sorry S.G.(GH) ping! 17:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey Cirt, I'm coming back to you in regards to the article on Eirtakon, as you were the closing admin on the last AfD.
We've done a bit of work to the article, adding more RS', and updating the event information as of the current year, and I was going to run it by you whether or not it's suitable enough to go back into mainspace. It's not the best, I'll admit, but to be perfectly honest it's better than some of the current articles about other anime cons in Europe (e.g. Animefest, AniMatsuri (Estonia), Rumicon just to name a few).
Also along those lines, would uploading an image for use in the infobox be pushing it, or...?
Thanks for your time. TheChrisD Rants•Edits 15:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Can you make sure all the cites are formatted with WP:CIT? Also, not enough significant coverage from reliable secondary sources independent of the subject, yet. -- Cirt (talk) 23:45, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Refs updated, but that's all the sourcing that there is out there. Regardless of that though there's still more reliable sources in that bunch that in some of those articles that I linked to above and even more of the rest of the articles listed in the Anime conventions in Europe navbox. TheChrisD Rants•Edits 00:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, just not seeing enough there to satisfy WP:NOTE. -- Cirt (talk) 00:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- So where would you suggest I get some then? RTÉ, the IT, the Indo, and the Herald don't seem to give two shits about conventions like this, and the only other result that isn't some blog post or forum thread would never in a million years be a reliable source. If that bunch would never pass WP:N, then how come there are circa ten articles of even less quality that are still up? TheChrisD Rants•Edits 00:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. -- Cirt (talk) 00:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, this is going nowhere. Suppose I should get onto Stifle about this since he nominated it in the first place (which is even more of a kick in the teeth given he's an Irishman himself and this is an Irish con...) TheChrisD Rants•Edits 00:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Certainly have no objections to you doing that. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 00:19, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, this is going nowhere. Suppose I should get onto Stifle about this since he nominated it in the first place (which is even more of a kick in the teeth given he's an Irishman himself and this is an Irish con...) TheChrisD Rants•Edits 00:18, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. -- Cirt (talk) 00:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- So where would you suggest I get some then? RTÉ, the IT, the Indo, and the Herald don't seem to give two shits about conventions like this, and the only other result that isn't some blog post or forum thread would never in a million years be a reliable source. If that bunch would never pass WP:N, then how come there are circa ten articles of even less quality that are still up? TheChrisD Rants•Edits 00:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, just not seeing enough there to satisfy WP:NOTE. -- Cirt (talk) 00:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Refs updated, but that's all the sourcing that there is out there. Regardless of that though there's still more reliable sources in that bunch that in some of those articles that I linked to above and even more of the rest of the articles listed in the Anime conventions in Europe navbox. TheChrisD Rants•Edits 00:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Deletion of Railway stations in the United States
Is it OK to redirect it to Rail transport in the United States? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- I will defer to your editorial judgment on that one. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 23:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
We clashed there on AFD results (less than a minute apart but never edit conflicted), but another user has placed in a "delete" !vote there. Think it's a good idea to keep that AFD open? –MuZemike 07:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- I will defer to your judgment. ;) No worries, -- Cirt (talk) 07:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Gah, you're going to force me to dig for more sources, aren't you? SilverserenC 07:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- I went ahead and re-opened. I think it's out of fairness in a situation like this, given the conflicting message, the lack of edit conflict given between me and Cirt, and the recent "delete" !vote that happened after the fact. –MuZemike 07:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds good, thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 07:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- I went ahead and re-opened. I think it's out of fairness in a situation like this, given the conflicting message, the lack of edit conflict given between me and Cirt, and the recent "delete" !vote that happened after the fact. –MuZemike 07:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Gah, you're going to force me to dig for more sources, aren't you? SilverserenC 07:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Template:Treehouse of Horror
Please weigh in on Template talk:Treehouse of Horror#Inclusion of episode segments, so we can generate a consensus. Thanks, Fixblor (talk) 08:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
List of The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episodes
Please weigh in on Talk:List of The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episodes#Inclusion of episode segment links, so we can generate a consensus. Thanks, Fixblor (talk) 09:27, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
AfD closure: Dheerendra Singh
Is there a reason you did not delete all three nominated articles when closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dheerendra Singh, or was it just an oversight? ~ Ningauble (talk) 13:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Done! ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 13:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Unblock request on hold; you blocked the range. Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:20, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Deletion
I noticed you deleted Alliance of Valiant Arms unfortunately that deletion was discussed by people who really had no idea about the subject and who were incapable of finding the sources. Somehow I missed the notification that it had been put up for deletion. As was mentioned in the deletion discussion, the game is used to compete at a national level, it's one of the most popular shooters in Korea, it's published by a well known publisher (all of which satisfy notability requirements for western games), and searching an actual korean site for the name of the game generates nearly 10,000 hits [7], mind you there is a little overlap with the group Abba. So searching for the groups name and the korean word for"game" which narrows it down (but still drops some legitimate results) gives us over 1100 news results [8].I'll give you an opportunity restore it before I take it to DRV.--Crossmr (talk) 23:29, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Consensus at the AFD was quite clear. However, I would be most willing to provide a version within a subpage of your userspace, so you could improve the page before requesting it go to main-article-space, if you so wish it. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 23:31, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Consensus was formed by people who didn't do a proper news search. You deleted it based on a lack of notability, I've just demonstrated extensive coverage. That was missed during the discussion due to the fact that none of the three people commenting on it seem capable of reading Korean. 3 people is not a great consensus to hang your hat on, especially when it's obvious they missed a metric ton of reliable sources due to their inability to properly search for them.--Crossmr (talk) 23:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Again, I would be more than happy to provide a copy of that version of the article, within your userspace subpage, so you can attempt to demonstrate that. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 23:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- sure.--Crossmr (talk) 00:04, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Again, I would be more than happy to provide a copy of that version of the article, within your userspace subpage, so you can attempt to demonstrate that. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 23:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Consensus was formed by people who didn't do a proper news search. You deleted it based on a lack of notability, I've just demonstrated extensive coverage. That was missed during the discussion due to the fact that none of the three people commenting on it seem capable of reading Korean. 3 people is not a great consensus to hang your hat on, especially when it's obvious they missed a metric ton of reliable sources due to their inability to properly search for them.--Crossmr (talk) 23:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Done, now at User:Crossmr/Alliance of Valiant Arms. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 00:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Just thought I'd let you know that I courtesy blanked this AFD because I'm not sure if the subject is the same "Yuri Rutman that Truebobjohnson is talking about. He provides three unreliable sources and you'll find the second one very interesting. That one is defiantly not a reliable source and I should know :) --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:12, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- No objections to that action. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 00:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Cirt, I'm wondering why you deleted rather than redirected here. It seems like a darn reasonable redirect. Hobit (talk) 00:29, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Feel free to redirect as an editorial decision, post AFD. I have no objections to that. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 00:30, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Pittsburgh Tri-State
(Breathing exercise) It seems that you were simply doing your job clearing monthly delete nominees. However (although not required) I would have imagined a "Tri-State" "regional" article would have given a heads up to the Wikiproject or Portal or page creator and chief contributor. I think what may have happened here is a diagnosis was decided on the heart without talking to any cardiologists (even though they are by very definition biased). The page was a long long time contribution to Wiki with tons of sources cited that by they're very nature seem to have been used as a justification for its deletion (reading the 25 something day thread). I have to admit this is a first for me, sources for an article being the reason for its deletion, (Akron, West Virginia are sourced by some authorities as included others as not included etc.). I would be happy to re-edit or clarify this article up to higher standards if need be (as many Pgh project members would be) but as best I can tell beyond not consulting anyone with knowledge of the subject, the only rationale was that there were slightly divergent source material. That is a dangerous precedent for the vast majority of articles on wiki, sources rarely define subject matter exactly alike. Again trying to piece this together looks like it was simply a housecleaning move by yourself, not a judgment in any way but I will be happy to strengthen this article. Also the Pittsburgh Metro Area article is in no way similar, it is rigidly defined by the CBO and Census, although I could see a single article encompassing both however I don't see a lot of precedent for that on wiki. Thank you for your consideration and please consider allowing project members to discuss and improve this page. Hholt01 (talk) 02:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Consensus was determined to be delete, at the AFD. However, I would be most willing to provide a copy of the article within a subpage of your userspace, if you would like to work on a proposed draft version there. Just let me know, if you wish it. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 05:57, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. (not sure how we will have a discussion on my userspace however with all interested parties) Hholt01 (talk) 06:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
deletion review: Lee Zalben
I would like to request a deletion review for Lee Zalben.
In addition to being the Founder of Peanut Butter & Co, Lee is a published author and contributor to other writer's cookbooks, and also writes a weekly column for the food blog Serious Eats. In addition to media coverage that has come through Peanut Butter & Co, Lee has been profiled by various media including The New York Times and Gourmet News, and is a frequent source for journalists seeking commentary on the natural and specialty food business. Lee's page perhaps needed to be updated with more third party indicators of notariety, which we would like the opportunity to correct.Zalben (talk) 02:55, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Judging by your username it appears you may have a COI when trying to write about this topic. Can you confirm your relationship to the subject? Also, your use of the plural "we" implies that this account is a shared account which is not allowed under our policies. Please confirm that this account is only going to be used by one person. 7 02:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- After clarifying those points above you may want to log your reqeust at this page and reference the fact that this article was deleted as the result of this AFD. Regards, 7 03:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Since it was not incubated, could you please userfy this one to me at User:MichaelQSchmidt/workspace/Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda. I'll work on it and send it to incubation for review when it is better suited for mainspace. Thanks, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Done! ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 05:55, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Jessica Feshbach
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— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 06:03, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Cirt. Could you do something about the above redirect, too? Thanks! Location (talk) 06:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Done! ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 06:16, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Cirt the original vote on Floyd C. Bayne was more keeps than deletes so the article should not have been deleted, but at least it should be redirected to va 7th district race if not undeleted Libertyactivist (talk) 06:25, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, but you went about the completely wrong process here, which was disruptive in nature. Please, read WP:DRV. -- Cirt (talk) 06:27, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- The Tag said I could remove it if I thought it was not properly tagged with a speedy delete. I am new I thought I understood the process as the tag explained it. But cant the page be redirected to this page: United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections_in_Virginia,_2010#District_7 Libertyactivist (talk) 06:39, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- I mean Floyd C. Bayne, but I guess Floyd Bayne and Floyd C. Bayne could both redirect to va 7th district. Libertyactivist (talk) 06:42, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, a redirect can be done as an editorial, non-admin decision. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 06:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- You will do it or I will have to? And if I, then how do I do it? Libertyactivist (talk) 07:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Feel free to do so. More info, at Wikipedia:Redirect. -- Cirt (talk) 07:08, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- I hate to bother you again but the Floyd C. Bayne page won't let me add a redirect. Are you an admin can you do it? Libertyactivist (talk) 07:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, I had protected that due to the disruption, and the prior AFD. At this point in time, probably best for it to be discussed at Talk:Floyd C. Bayne, using {{edit protected}}. -- Cirt (talk) 07:17, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok see you there Libertyactivist (talk) 07:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, I had protected that due to the disruption, and the prior AFD. At this point in time, probably best for it to be discussed at Talk:Floyd C. Bayne, using {{edit protected}}. -- Cirt (talk) 07:17, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- I hate to bother you again but the Floyd C. Bayne page won't let me add a redirect. Are you an admin can you do it? Libertyactivist (talk) 07:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Feel free to do so. More info, at Wikipedia:Redirect. -- Cirt (talk) 07:08, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- You will do it or I will have to? And if I, then how do I do it? Libertyactivist (talk) 07:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, a redirect can be done as an editorial, non-admin decision. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 06:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, but you went about the completely wrong process here, which was disruptive in nature. Please, read WP:DRV. -- Cirt (talk) 06:27, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Cirt the original vote on Floyd C. Bayne was more keeps than deletes so the article should not have been deleted, but at least it should be redirected to va 7th district race if not undeleted Libertyactivist (talk) 06:25, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Username blocks
Why are names like User:Nobinism tagged and blocked? Nobin is a first name, e.g. [9]. Blocking this only because it has "nob" in it, seems to me to be serious overkill. Worse, User:Skier dudete has a username block? Why's that? Nothing offensive, nothing promotional, no bad edits... Fram (talk) 08:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Done, unblocked that first one. The other can be seen as impersonation of admin, Skier Dude (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 08:18, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, hadn't thought about that angle for the second one, and thanks for revisiting the first one. Now let's hope that his edits don't indicate that you were right the first time ;-) Fram (talk) 08:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are welcome. Thank you for taking the time to thank me for my response in this matter. It is most appreciated. ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 08:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, hadn't thought about that angle for the second one, and thanks for revisiting the first one. Now let's hope that his edits don't indicate that you were right the first time ;-) Fram (talk) 08:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Given the outcome of the above SPI, you might wish to take another look at your close of the DRV of The Irving Literary Society (Cornell University) at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 October 1. T. Canens (talk) 14:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)