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Bitcoin

Hi Drmies, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.90.167 (talk) 05:43, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I am concerned that people are using the bitcoin article to lure victims to "invest" in bitcoins, and are deliberately including highly misleading information. For example, the article seems to assume that "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a real person, when in fact such a person has no web footprint whatsoever. Further, while discussions of the present value of bitcoins is allowed to stay, discussion of the fact that they have risen from six cents in the last ten months and that the price has daily fluctuations of over ten per cent is not mentioned. You look like an upright guy, but I think there are people with a monetary stake in putting misleading information into the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.90.167 (talk) 05:41, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry I didn't see this earlier--new messages go at the bottom. Thank you for your note, though please do not assume I'm upright, or a guy. Drmies (talk) 00:40, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Freedom Riders

Hi Drmies,

I'm not watching the program but I'm recording it to watch later.

With respect to the actions of ordinary people, never underestimate the crowd mentality. Sometimes a force for good, sometimes for evil, but too often people in crowds stop thinking for themselves.

Ah, enough philosophizing. I have some vandalism to revert. Talk to you later. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:52, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• You know, James Zwerg was a very goodlooking man, even after he got his face kicked in. But you know my favorite, since you helped cleaning it up, James Peck (pacifist). Anyway, Zwerg is here in town on Wednesday; they're finally opening up a museum at the old bus station. I wish I had a better camera, but I'll do my best to take some pictures. Hey, come on down--I'll buy you a hotdog from Chris's on Dexter. Drmies (talk) 03:01, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
• Here's the list of events. Drmies (talk) 03:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation. I'll look you up when I make it to Alabama. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

It's a shame you can't be in two places at once. Sorry I can't be there with you, but I'm happy to support you at RfA. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 05:13, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

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Massimo Negrotti

It's not possible to delete the article 'Massimo Negrotti'? It creates a conflict with the correct article 'Massimo negrotti' (though the last name should be with N capital). I tried a redirect from 'Massimo Negrotti' to 'Massimo negrotti' and it works but the former page remains. I would like to delete it. Thanks, Max Schwartz —Preceding unsigned comment added by Max Schwartz (talk • contribs) 15:39, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense. How can 'Massimo Negrotti' be incorrect when 'Massimo negrotti' is correct except for the capital? Anyway, the capitalized version is correct; you shouldn't have made the redirect. I moved the 'negrotti' to 'Negrotti' over the redirect.

  But there are other problems: you are the subject, it seems, so I placed a COI tag on it, besides some other templates--the citation style, for instance, is entirely unclear and quite unelegant. I see that an earlier version was likely removed as a copyvio; I hope this one is sufficiently rewritten, and will (hopefully) be rewritten more to comply with our Manual of Style. But thank you for your question. Drmies (talk) 17:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

@Max Schwartz, I'm also sorry to find it was the exact same article which was deleted as copyright violation -- with text copied from the website and the lede copied from a book. I have deleted the article because it is foundationally copied text. If you wish to recreate an article about this individual, please do so only using original language. Thanks. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 18:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

CactusWriter, I repeat what I said in a now-deleted edit summary: thanks for keeping an eye out. Not that I appreciate you upping my deleted edits count, but hey, it had to be done. And let's hope that a next (different) version uses any of the many available citation formats used on Wikipedia. Drmies (talk) 18:17, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

By the way...

I did notice your edit summary and was taken aback about your lack of x-ray goggles. For whatever reason, I thought you already... well, you know the line. That needs to be changed -- I think you should be fitted for a pair. Cheers. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 18:26, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hej, how many of you are there? Are you all taking over? And BTW, do you have an opinion on this edit? Drmies (talk) 22:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

IMO, you chose the proper redirect: the team nickname was actual reason for the sit-com episode's title. (Besidea, Langt fra Las Vegas was only okay -- it was certainly no Klovn.) — CactusWriter ^(talk) 00:32, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Man in the Moone

Would you please verify that this disambiguation was correct? It wasn't even one of the options on either of the Christ College or Christ's College dab pages, but based on the Francis Godwin article, I think it's correct.

And no, it's not just you. WP's very sluggish for me; I had to reload your talk page a few times to get an edit link. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Eh, Mandarax--are you using Wikipedia as a source for Wikipedia? You could lose your tenure over that, you know! Anyway, this confirms it as well. I have to go back and pull up the article (through JSTOR, I imagine) to see what "Christ College" really is--maybe I made a mistake. Thanks for your due diligence. Yes, the last few days WP has been frustratingly slow, though you are really trying to tell me, between the lines, that I should archive my talk page. I can read you like a nook, you know. Drmies (talk) 22:25, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hehe, yes, I admit that I didn't research that very thoroughly (but it was just a dab, and you'd already supplied a source). Sorry that my "due diligence" is creating a little extra work for you, due to your due diligence. As for allegations regarding hidden subtext in my note, I must confess that the size of this page was on my mind. (You do get a lot of activity here. And think how much more there'll be when you're an admin....) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:51, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Ron "Bumblefoot Thal

Hello Drmies.

My name is Patrick and I'm a 48 year old male residing in the U.S. I love to write and have just begun 'dabbling' in the Wiki world!

I thank you for your excellent suggestion of using the Preview feature! :) I didn't realize that I would be creating a lot of unnecessary edits unless I use the preview feature prior to doing the actual edit. I'm new at this and still learning and I hope to become much better and to be a contributor in the Wiki community for many years to come! Warmest regards, Patrick —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaos Choir (talk • contribs) 19:41, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for your note. (You are also the IP? Don't forget to log in--when you log in, there's a box you can check for "keep me logged in".) Yes, preview is an invaluable tool for proofreading. The problem is that the history gets clogged up with edits and then it is difficult to see who did what when. Listen, if you want to improve that article, the most important thing to do is to find references to reliable sources. It is a BLP, a biography of a living person, and those need strict verification (have a look at the policy and the guidelines). Also, not every fact is relevant (that is, for instance, not every guitar is--they can't all be Blackie or Old Black), and usually such lists of instruments need to have verification for every single one; verification here means to reliable secondary sources. See, for instance, Albert_King#Instruments. So plow through your Guitar Player archives. Good luck, and let me know if I can help. Drmies (talk) 19:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

• at my talk... LadyofShalott 03:06, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
  • A handwritten note! That's so exciting! Drmies (talk) 03:26, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
    • My pleasure. Hey, Drmies, there's a nifty tool. It's called Miszabot. ;-) LadyofShalott 03:46, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
      • Is it named for me? Drmies (talk) 03:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
        • Hah! The spelling's a little off. You'll have to battle that one out with Misza. LadyofShalott 03:57, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
          • We don't need no stinking bots. Drmies (talk) 03:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
            • <grin> LadyofShalott 04:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again for joining in on that article, as well as being willing/interested in doing the dyk thing. It's much improved over what I initially had. In case you haven't seen it, I ask one favor of you in my most recent post on my talk page. LadyofShalott 04:25, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Battle of Brunanburh (poem)

I meant to tell you: I posted a link to that on my sister's Facebook with no commentary. Her reply was, "You know what I like!" :) LadyofShalott 04:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

• Eh...she likes people who write about Anglo-Saxon battle poems? She likes Norsemen who invade England? She likes anyone by the name of Amlaíb? She is secretly in love with...me? (Does she know I'm [still!] carrying Moonriddengirl's child? Do you?) Drmies (talk) 05:00, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
• By the way, that's not a bad little article, if I say so myself. I was surprised there wasn't anything on it yet. Drmies (talk) 05:01, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Anglo-Saxon poetry is right up her alley. She's ABD for a linguisitics degree focused on AS and other Germanic languages. It is a nice article. I am not versed(!) in Anglo-Saxon language and literature as she is, but enjoyed reading it! Your carrying MRG's baby sounds like a personal problem to me. LadyofShalott 05:08, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. Where is she at? (well, don't disclose if it's personal, or if she's at South Carolina or some such place.) Drmies (talk) 05:09, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Replied off-wiki LadyofShalott 05:18, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for clearing my user page of the nonsense Calabe1992 (talk) 03:27, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

• My pleasure. Drmies (talk) 03:29, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

RfA nomination

• Whoa. Hey, can we wait till I'm at 80,000 edits? Drmies (talk) 03:39, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
  • You've put it off long enough Mies, wish I was in on the nomoination, I would like to have had my revenge from two years ago. Best of luck, you'll do great. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 09:03, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
    • I remember it well, K. I think about it often, and it's one of the reasons I've waited so long. Yeah, I could have asked you as well, but I think the lady and I were talking about this during one of your extended vacations down in a mine shaft or so. Hey, maybe I'll fail, and then I'll ask you in a year? (Are you going back up? I think you should.) Drmies (talk) 13:49, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry to say

...that things are not going well for you on your RfA. Currently, it's 62/0/0. Ah well... ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 16:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, I got two neutrals now... Drmies (talk) 14:21, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Only one more day to get 10 more votes and join the WP:200 club. Time to start WP:CANVASSING (joking, joking). I think your book went out on the 23rd. Congrats on the new GA, you are going to have to teach me to write some day. I need to find some more decent topics again, I think I might have finished the internet.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:18, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Forget about canvassing to achieve 200. Think big. Mobilize an army of sockpuppets to go for 300! [To quote kelapstick, "(joking, joking)".] MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:54, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't see that happening, Mandarax, though I can't tell you how tickled I am with the support I've received so far, including ayes from some people I highly respect. Now--when are you going up? Do you want to? Would it help you in your gnomish work? Drmies (talk) 17:35, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

RFA

Ah, drat. I watchlisted your RFA before the page was created and I can't remember if I did that so I could vote for or against it. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, how about playing it safe and voting for me, so you won't be the first one I block? Drmies (talk) 04:30, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
• Hey Sarek--you just jumped through this burning hoop. Can you help a lady out? Drmies (talk) 04:34, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please do if you know what I've done incorrectly in that edit. LadyofShalott 04:38, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

*shrug*Darned if I know, I didn't add that to my own. :-) Should be covered by the hidden counters halfway down the page, though, and I think everything else goes on talk, rather than the main page. Maybe. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:39, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Looks like you were right; others have fixed it now. Now we just plan a party for a week from now. LadyofShalott 04:46, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid to look. I'll just go reference some BLP or something. Let's hope it's not an athlete. Finnish directors and German politicians I can handle. Drmies (talk) 04:52, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Hm. A Belgian DJ. That's just great. Drmies (talk) 05:00, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

vaublock

I've seen a lot worse, believe me. Daniel Case (talk) 14:47, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, I'm glad I don't have your job. Drmies (talk) 14:48, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

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Ahalya

Thanks for noticing Ahalya.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:29, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Go the Fuck to Sleep

Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Your copy should be on its way soon. -kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:56, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Very cool! LadyofShalott 01:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

We are going to be SO popular! Thanks again, K. Drmies (talk) 01:10, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Anton Graff

Hi Drmies. Thanks for all your advices. Much appreciated! John Jason Junior John Jason Junior (talk) 05:31, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

• You're welcome--thanks for your contributions. I hope you'll keep at it. Drmies (talk) 05:32, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
• You might be on the front page soon, in the Did you know section. Drmies (talk) 05:40, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
• Thanks, looks great! A Swiss painter with a German career in the focus of the World of Wikipedia. Very international! John Jason Junior (talk) 09:43, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Query re: visibility of Hathitrust content

Like this?

Hi, I'm curious as to whether people in the US can see in full view some items that in the UK are available only as "limited (search only)" on the Hathitrust website. Specifically, is volume 8 on this page available in full? I know that GBooks sometimes differentiates according to location (presumably based on IP range detection). Do you have time to check this please? There's a potentially useful article in volume 8, if only I could see the thing. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 07:18, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Update: it is actually at GBooks also, but in snippet view here. - Sitush (talk) 07:21, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

DUDE: Work: the illustrated weekly journal for mechanics, Volume 8??? You seriously need a life. Get a motorcycle! Drmies (talk) 13:51, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, I could read it on-screen, but could not download it as a PDF without logging in. Does that help? Let me have another look later; I'll get back to you. Drmies (talk) 14:19, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

LOL. I can log in but can't see it, so it must be a geo-IP lock out. Got a bike, btw. BSA DBD34 Gold Star, 500cc 1956. Need to be a mechanic to keep that thing on the road ;) - Sitush (talk) 18:47, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

No kidding! Did you upload a photo? I'll upload one of mine soon, but I'll tell you what, if I had to work on either one of them, I'd take the BSA. What a beautiful bike! BTW, that article needs work. Don't tell me you got nothing on your bookshelf. Drmies (talk) 20:54, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

The photo looks like s DB34 to me, not a DBD34. I might be wrong, though. Between myself and my two brothers, we have (I think) 11 bikes. Two are new-ish (Ducati and a Honda of some description - I close my eyes when I go in the corner it inhabits, so as not to offend my senses). The others are all Brit bikes: BSA C11, Arial Square Four, Triumph Speed Twin etc. Oh, there was a pre-WW2 Humber 900cc side-valve that I found in a hedge but I had to sell that - did it up, got it running reasonably but needed to wait on a batch of tyres to be produced, and in the interval became unable to work. :(

The Goldie was my dad's last bike; the rest have been acquired by us. I can't ride any of them any more due to insurance issues re: my health, so they're on permanent loan with my brothers. There s/b photos knocking about somewhere but both myself & one brother have moved house recently. Might be some at my mum's, but they'll be old. In my brother's case, the place he has bought includes a barn, intended to be converted for bike storage etc. I'm supposed to be going down there later this year if my health improves, in which case I'll take pics of some of them.

Here's looking at you Sitush. More speed and technology than your brother's entire barn could muster.

I didn't actually read the article, merely grabbed the link. I'll go back to it. - Sitush (talk) 21:09, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Nice bikes. Sorry to hear about your health. I'm going to get as many miles as I can from my father's bike, as long as I last; my oldest daughter already wants it (she's 5). Now close your eyes, 'cause I'm going to put a picture of my bike (well, mine's red) up here. Bwuhahaha! Oh, if you get any more xenophobic, just ship the Duc over to me and I'll pick it up in Jacksonville, Florida. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 02:05, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Algeria

Hi, I made a map and added an infobox, hope this is OK. Funnily enough I was going to contact you last night and request an article on Guy Legay.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:36, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Ahhm, I think you have the coordinates wrong for the desert, its much further south...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:40, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks Ernst! I appreciate the help. Those coordinates, I don't know exactly where I got them from, but I'll tell you, putting together that little bitty stub took forever--sources hard to come by. As usual, what's in the article is every single thing I could find electronically. Drmies (talk) 13:49, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Battle of Brunanburh (poem)

The article Battle of Brunanburh (poem) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Battle of Brunanburh (poem) for things which need to be addressed. -- Cirt (talk) 17:02, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks Cirt--in all the excitement I had forgotten about it. I'll have a looksee later today: my laptop is out of juice, and my youngest needs papa play time. Later! Drmies (talk) 17:03, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Alright, keep me posted on the GA Review subpage ... and good luck! ;) Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 23:51, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
    • Well, I see now that in places the article is a bit skinny; there are a few more articles I need to look at (JSTOR) and I will have a look at the Old English Bibliography (check it out--it's fantastic). So in a day or two I'll drop you a line, and hopefully there will be a bit more meat on them bones. Thanks! I'm looking at a salad with fried salt pork on it. Very tasty. Drmies (talk) 00:42, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

RFA

I think you can probably weather a couple of neutrals, daft as they are... :) Good luck, not that you need it! Catfish Jim & the soapdish 17:10, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

No worries

I honestly don't recall the argument (nor, I'm embarrassed to say, can I find more than one instance of us interacting). In any case, you're clearly well over the bar. Best of luck! Hobit (talk) 01:34, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, I remember, and that may well be the only interaction we've ever had. Thanks for your response and your vote--you will, of course, be richly rewarded for it. What would you like? Wine? Young, nubile lovers? An iPod nano goes to every "aye" anyway. Drmies (talk) 02:00, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
  • The iPod will do. :-) Could you link me to the discussion you are referring to?Hobit (talk) 02:11, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
    • Honestly, I probably can't. It was months ago, maybe a year--you accused me of being a deletionist, and I said you should have some article edits before you started calling me names. I'm embarrassed to repeat that here. It may have been in some discussion of House episodes, in an AfD that was doomed early and got screwed up even more after I followed someone else's advice and bundled some episodes. Does that sound familiar? Anyway, it's water under the bridge, and since I don't remember apologizing to you, maybe this somewhat shameful reiteration will do. Oh, you know what I always wanted to tell you? What a cool user name you have. It's not Hobbit--it's much edgier. Are you in a metal band? Drmies (talk) 02:20, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
      • Ah, vaguely recall that but really can't find it. I did find about 10 cases where we argued opposite sides in AfDs (always me keep, you delete), but saw nothing problematic. In any case, I shouldn't be tossing names around so I think that's more embarrassing for me. In all cases, best of luck! Hobit (talk) 03:10, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
        • Haha Hobit, you are a keeper, aren't you! Drmies (talk) 20:02, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Eaton DYK

Responded at T:TDYK on this. BarkingMoon (talk) 02:19, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

You said you made tweaks to Jeanette Eaton, but you didn't. You edited Genevieve Foster. Maybe you got the two articles mixed up? They are both Newbery Honor winners.BarkingMoon (talk) 02:24, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

OOPS, it was me. Sorry. Fixed now.BarkingMoon (talk) 02:27, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

As for the unclear, the ref probably states it better, but I was trying not to directly copy it. Can you help reword it? Eaton felt women's magazines helped men because they maintained the status quo/kept women "in their place", so to speak. BarkingMoon (talk) 02:32, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Ha, I conflicted with you at DYK; it's straightened out now. I left you a longer comment there, but I don't know if you'll like it. Listen, I understand perfectly what she is saying (after looking at the original) and perhaps there is a way to rephrase it better. As I noted at DYK, the problem is that what you're doing is interpreting a primary source, and while you interpret that correctly, it's still an interpretation--that is, original research. I'm going to look at the source again. Drmies (talk) 02:40, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, we're not supposed to make an entire article a series of quotes either are way? Sounds like a thin lined tightrope. BarkingMoon (talk) 02:43, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

It's often a tightrope in the absence of secondary sources. BTW, I plowed through MLA and JSTOR and couldn't find anything recent on her. What would be nice, of course, is a discussion of her feminism. Now, I think what you could do is the following: cite the entire next-to-last paragraph ("The woman's magazine....such reading") (it's a nice quote, and you can use the <blockquote></blockquote> format), and introduce it with something you pull from the introduction in the reader, some of which you've already mentioned in the article. I think I have a tweak for your hook. Drmies (talk) 02:51, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

LoS made some edits. Added the blockquote. Thanks for the improvements. See DYK nom page too.BarkingMoon (talk) 11:26, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Is there an issue still pending? You haven't put the check of approval on it yet. BarkingMoon (talk) 16:21, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Patience, grasshopper! The doors in our house don't paint themselves, you know, and those dumb dogs can't paint either. I checked it off. Hope you get lots of hits, Drmies (talk) 17:48, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Sensei, Grasshopper understands. We took the family strawberry picking, washed the cars, and tended the garden. Thanks for all the help. Both articles are better now. It's nice to make good, helpful new wiki friends. BarkingMoon (talk) 18:06, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Strawberry picking! Now that is a much better way to spend a Sunday, esp. the day after the world ended. One of these days I'll come hollering at you for help in creating some more of these women writer articles. Do you know anything about Dutch lighthouses? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:12, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Not really, but if enough sources are in English, I can try it. As for the strawberries, they were so plentiful all I had to do was sit inbetween two rows,move only about 2 feet and my strawberry box was full. Since you missed out, here's a berry ripe for the picking just for you:

Strawberries for you

BarkingMoon (talk) 18:22, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

CRAZY!!!!

AHHHHH! INSANE AND CRAZY!!!!!!!!! Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) ^{T or M}/_{Sign mine} 02:26, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

• That's what she said. Drmies (talk) 18:12, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

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My opinion

I was not aware of your RfA until a few moments ago. I'm here to apologize for not piling on my support there as I have been avoiding that project page recently (and I see no future in which I would be able to opine there...but things may change). I wanted you to know that my absence does not mean lack of support. Indeed, I believe that WP needs your help in an admin capacity. See ya 'round Tiderolls 07:23, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks Tide. I hope you know I have the greatest respect for you as an admin, and if it succeeds, I'll be knocking on your door for help, no doubt. Later, Drmies (talk) 19:29, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

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Agnes Hewes

Drmies and My Lady: Here's another Newbery writer. The facts are there but it could use a good copyedit and there's very little on her personal life (more is out there on her family). Perhaps you could check your offline sources and help copyedit? It's also listed at DYK. BarkingMoon (talk) 01:11, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

User:LadyofShalott/Camak House

How much should I talk about James Camak? (I haven't yet at all.) LadyofShalott 03:15, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hm. A juicy paragraph? Was he exciting? Drmies (talk) 03:19, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Depends on your definition of exciting. He was apparently important - after teaching math at UGA, he headed up the Georgia Railroad and was head of a bank. He probably deserves an article of his own, but I don't want to write it. LadyofShalott 03:24, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Ha, you don't like writing biographies either? Well, do you need to get the house up to DYK length? I think a fat paragraph, well-sourced, is more than OK, and place a redirect to the house for the man's name. At least that's a start. Have fun...! Drmies (talk) 03:26, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I haven't had the energy to put into it yet. A surprise 12-hour shift Monday (umm... that would be yesterday) plus too many insomniac nights this past week or so have not done wonders for my article-building. However, I got a few minutes to run up and make a copy of that magazine article I had made note of. I'm hoping that's going to give me lots of good stuff to add. Apparently we have a vertical file folder on Camak House too - so I'm going to have to figure out when I can get into it. (I bet there's one on Franklin House too...) LadyofShalott 22:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Franklin House (Athens, Georgia)

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

File:Pope and boniface 1980.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Pope and boniface 1980.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Damiens.rf 13:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

RfA

I do hope you realize my neutral vote is a joke :) --PoliticallyCorrectEditorCabal (talk) 14:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, at RfAs it can be difficult to spot the jokes sometimes, sorry, and on my (small) screen at home there is a lot of space between the boobies and the note on boobies. And I was not entirely truthful: I am no longer addicted to bacon; in fact, even during the heyday of my bacon period I scored below 75% on the quiz. I'm a salt pork man now. Thanks for clarifying--but I'd still rather have your support! ;) Drmies (talk) 18:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

• You don't need my support. Besides, anyone willing to stand for RfA is too crazy to be an administrator. Mainly, I just wanted to add some levity to the RfA, based on your userpage. I was an aspiring ornithologist when I was young. Always have a warm spot in my heart for blue footed boobies. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:43, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

• In that case, please add a violation to my user page by turning Category:Birds of the Galapagos to a bluelink! BTW, I have great respect for ornithologists. They are generally very friendly and quiet people. I hope you didn't become a WWF commentator or accountant. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

• No, I became a Wikipedia editor instead. *sob* --Hammersoft (talk) 19:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Crooked timber of humanity: FYI

Ludwig Wittgenstein, 1946, Culture and Value

It is remarkable how hard we find to believe something that we do not see the truth of for ourselves. When, for instance, I hear the expression of admiration for Shakespeare by distinguished men in the course of several centuries, I can never rid myself of the suspicion that praising him has been the conventional thing to do; though I have to tell myself that this is not how it is. It takes the authority of a MILTON really to convince me. I take it for granted that he was incorruptible.---But I don't of course mean by this that I don't believe an enormous amount of praise to have been, and still to be lavished on Shakespeare without understanding and for the wrong reasons by a thousand professors of literature.

• This is true: Milton is incorruptible, which explains a lot about his life. If only 'Samson Agonistes were required reading. This is also true: we often repeat these words about Shakespeare and others without having properly read their work. Drmies (talk) 19:29, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I forgot to wink.

Given your recent acknowledgment of having failed in your attempt to "corrupt" one administrator, LOL, I thought that you would enjoy the quote about Milton. You may also enjoy the quote about your fellow workers in the vineyard, even supposing that you are less critical than "Morris Zapp".  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 19:53, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Obscenity in Alabama: "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"

Hej Drmies! I thought that you would appreciate this title:

• Karthik Subramanian, “It’s a Dildo in 49 States, But It’s a Dildon’t in Alabama: Alabama’s Anti-Obscenity Enforcement Act and the Assault on Civil Liberty and Personal Freedom,” 1 Ala. Civil Rts. & Civil Lib. L. Rev 111 (2011).

Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 10:17, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, a charming matter, isn't it. If you leave my town you pass a sign, "Go to church or the devil will get you." A couple of miles further there is a jumbo-sized Stars and bars. Drmies (talk) 01:53, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Church Lady will continue to be redundant when reality satirizes itself.  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 08:08, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Miners of Muzo

Do you know these guys?--kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:55, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Are you following me around?

I've been gently trying to slide the ferret article towards something more encyclopedic and less "my ferret is wonderful, here's a pic" for some time now, but slowly slowly catchee monkey. Malleus Fatuorum 00:33, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Monkey? Ferret? Is this some mutation I've not yet read about? - Sitush (talk) 00:37, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Kipling IIRC. Malleus Fatuorum 00:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Really? Do both species eat cakes? ;) - Sitush (talk) 00:41, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Like many other carnivores they have an appetite for chocolate, which is lethal in any quantity, but ours would go to any lengths to get hold of some. A little bit of what you fancy ... Malleus Fatuorum 01:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

• Anytime I watch Recent changes and I see you do something, I'm interested, yes. You're my father figure, don't you see? Anyway, I personally don't care much for ferrets (I'm more of a weasel man myself--read "The Miller's Tale"), but I thought I might make myself useful by finding a reference for that unverified statement that you let stand inexplicably. Did you see the redlink in one of the images in that article? Queen Mary Psalter is my new little project. Drmies (talk) 00:49, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Good luck with that. The truth though is that "ferrets" are widely misunderstood. Malleus Fatuorum 01:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
• BTW, Malleus, [1]. Drmies (talk) 00:52, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Hansweert

Someone could use a little help with their Dutch-to-English. I think I know what they mean in the history section, but I'm not certain enough to fix it the way I would. LadyofShalott 03:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

•  Done. Drmies (talk) 04:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Ask, and you deliver far more than was meant! I only meant for you to make what was there comprehensible, but wow (and I should have known)! I followed up on your proofreading request. Only question now, what is a dweilband? LadyofShalott 04:22, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

A dweilband is a kind of little orchestra, with horns and stuff, playing popular folksy kinds of tunes--they are most notably present during speedskating events. Usually beer is involved. If I'm wrong, perhaps Ucucha can come along and set me straight. Drmies (talk) 04:25, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

That's quite an image. LadyofShalott 04:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Your big red button gave me a Kazakh politician...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:33, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry K. Romanian poets are more fun. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Here's an example of a dweilband (courtesy of my mother). Ucucha 08:31, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

RE: Clan of Xymox edits

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Luis González-Mestres

Hey dr - I was wondering if you had any thoughts about potentially AfD'ing Luis González-Mestres? I was looking at WP:PROF and don't think he actually meets any of the notability criteria laid out for academics or scientists. Kevin (talk) 22:03, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

• Are you ready for a mud fight? I think this is a borderline case, but do as you see fit; I'll have another look at the references. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:07, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations!!

Talk:Battle of Brunanburh (poem)#GA passed - very nice! LadyofShalott 01:37, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

• Huh? I guess I need to have a look... Drmies (talk) 01:43, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

admin

I has faith in you to be a good administrator. Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) ^{T or M}/_{Sign mine} 04:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

One of your responses at RfA was "I like to think I can bring people together. Drmies (talk) 14:09, 24 May 2011 (UTC) ". Well, if you cannot then I haven't got a clue who can. I thought about adding my support a few days ago but feel that it is really a peer review type of process & that it would be inappropriate. However, you have it in spirit and I knew from very early on that would be all which was needed. I still remember your first note to me and it settled me down enormously in what was at that time a quite challenging situation for me. Now, about JSTOR ... ;) - Sitush (talk) 23:35, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah yeah Sitush, what do you need this time...bare-knuckle boxing? hydraulic pump manuals? some recipes for turning anthracite into wholesome meals? Feel free to vote, haha--I have no moral qualms in accepting support from anyone. Well, I'm glad I ran into you as well. You strike me as a friendly spirit who seeks to increase our coverage in topics that you know and care about. And if you need something and you need it quick, you can always email me directly. Thanks for your note, Drmies (talk) 23:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I owe you a photo or two from CARDBOARDBOXSTOR, when I find it. You are on rotation for JSTOR stuff: my list of helpful people for that comprises you and, er, you. (Not really, one or two others have been very helpful for that stuff also, but they do not like bacon.) - Sitush (talk) 23:54, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

And this was it. - Sitush (talk) 23:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Unbelievable. Honest, I wasn't expecting this. I've been doing some work at Nair, with the usual POV-warring etc that is concomitant with Indian caste articles. Sometimes I am just a glutton for punishment. Anyways, someone put me onto a JSTOR article earlier today, I got it via Resource Exchange & as I am wading through I keep finding cites for this. I think it might be worth my while reading that in its own right, rather than relying on secondary commentary about it. Not that I do not trust academics to represent their colleagues fairly, of course <g> Please, pretty please? - Sitush (talk) 00:27, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

It's in the mail, Sitush. Give my regards to MatthewVanitas, and good luck to you both. Drmies (talk) 00:33, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Ounce received, thank you. Not sure how it fitted down the wires. - Sitush (talk) 00:59, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Holy cow, 200 supports! You deserve it; congratulations!! ceranthor 01:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

200!! Skomorokh put you over the top. LadyofShalott 01:53, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I think you just broke the record for the most support !votes in an RfA! The previous record was like under 190. Nice!! Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) ^{T or M}/_{Sign mine} 03:10, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately not, see here.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 03:13, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I happened to look at that a minute ago and I saw that. too bad :( Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) ^{T or M}/_{Sign mine} 03:17, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, they can't all be zingers. But I'll tell you what tickles me most--the admins, the crats, the deletionists, and the rescue squad people, a lot of them are on there. The only one missing is that traitor to the state of Alabama, User:Tide rolls. He's high on my hitlist. Probably an Auburn fan secretly anyway. Drmies (talk) 03:19, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:

Remember you will always protect the wrong version. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5) Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll. Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block. Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology. and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able. KillerChihuahua?!?

DISCLAIMER: This humor does not reflect the official humor of Wikipedia, the Wikimedia Foundation, or Jimbo Wales. All rights released under GFDL.

DYK for Anton Graff

Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I read the article, then went to check out the author, and was surprised to find this. Thanks for the kind words! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:54, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I don't need to click on that to know what that is--you're welcome. I wouldn't have said it if it weren't true. Drmies (talk) 02:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Psalters

Sorry, I can't see the BSB pics, get an error message - but I'm travelling, not my own PC (can't even check if I expanded Hans Vogt (composer) enough), perhaps I'll see the pics next week, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

• You'll enjoy them. Happy trails, Drmies (talk) 16:04, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Referenz

what is that, look i just put a reference, i am new on Wikipedia and i made it under User:ErwinFilipovic, i believe this should be fine. this is a public paper published in the World press (science), i dont know whats the problem about that, In general it takes a long time to tip those information in, i do not like to do this all the time over and over again so you guys have something to do, for me it is time expansive ( so maybe in the future give me some time to response instead to delete it immediately, thank youErwinFilipovic (talk) 18:52, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

• I removed some of the code you stuck in here--whatever that was supposed to do wasn't working. What I asked an administrator to delete was a template containing what appeared to be bibliographical information. The template wasn't written correctly, and what you may have wanted it to do, that's not what templates are for. (And I think that template had been there, unused, since April, so there was plenty of time.) I suggest you get a bit more practice, and for templates, please see Help:Template. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 19:06, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Emma wb

Hello, fyi I've tagged this redirect for speedy deletion since I think it's really too unlikely to be useful. That's all, folks! De728631 (talk) 19:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

• I indicated as much in my edit summary; thanks for confirming my suspicion. Drmies (talk) 19:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Question...

What do you think would be needed to bring Camak House up to GA level? LadyofShalott 22:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

• Wow! Great work. No wonder I didn't see you at the cocktail bar this week. Well, not so much--an expansion to the lead, to include more of its history and characteristics, and a scrubbing (I'll be glad to help). List it, and see what the initial response is. Well done, Lady! Drmies (talk) 00:10, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I'm not likely to be around much this weekend to address issues; so I'll wait until next week before actually attempting the gauntlet. I've never done that before. LadyofShalott 00:28, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

If I were you, I'd ask to get kissed first. Have a nice weekend! Drmies (talk) 00:38, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I'd better get hugs and kisses too. I get to see the nieces. The four-year-old has a dance recital. LadyofShalott 02:25, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Aw that is so cute. Did I tell you what happened at ours last year? 4-yr old is on stage, totally messing around and missing everything, 1-yr old sees her and yells out her name--4-yr old stops, looks, sees, waves... It was the funniest thing. Now she's 5, and apparently has learned to dance like a slut women in music videos. She did so today when we went to eat pizza. You know, they're still not asleep! Go the F*** to Sleep! (And K, the book still isn't in...) Drmies (talk) 02:29, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

LOL that's funny. She can team up with the two-year-old of my nieces - she likes to strip, and it doesn't matter where she is. One day my sister was writing out a check when peals of laughter erupted behind her. The little one had gotten buck naked and was dancing in circles with her hands over her head. LadyofShalott 02:45, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Too bad, I don't think mine is in either, at least the latest report from home hasn't said anything. It was supposed to go out early this week.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:49, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

(off topic) Do either of you know how to make a steam car, preferably coal powered. The Russians have canceled all fuel exports and the government is siezing all fuel assets (4 million litres for us)...My suggestion of invading Venezuela has not been implemented (yet), although I have been mobilizing an army. So this is what a state of emergency is like, I believe that the Mongolian government has excercised their equivalent of the notwithstanding clause.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:49, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hmmm...who made that car that ran on wood? Of course Mongolia isn't rich in trees, I imagine. Can't you produce oil (or an oily product) from yak dung? Drmies (talk) 00:56, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Afraid I can't help you with the steam car... That doesn't sound like a good situation! LadyofShalott 01:36, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

News is nonexistant on what is going on (at least in English), but as of the 10th the country had enough to last until the end of the month. I am thinking that a car that runs on pork fat might be more suitable. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:49, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd rather drink gasoline and walk than make my car run on pork fat. Come on Kelapstick, say that one more time and I'm revoking your zionist bacon star. Soon I vil have ze power! Drmies (talk) 03:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't know Doc, it's pending closure and is pretty close...I am sure there will be some debate.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:42, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Nah, no debate. The first crat to swing by will close it as success - but gone are the days when we had enough crats that uncontentious RFAs usually closed within a couple of hours. So congratulations and welcome to the Admin cadre, feel free to raid my monobook, the script that gives you a dropdown menu for blocking is pretty good, even though IAR, per IRC and "This hurts me more than it hurts you" somehow don't seem to be on the menu. ϢereSpielChequers 07:24, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations

I'm happy to inform you that, due to your successful request for adminship, you have now been promoted to an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or stop by the administrators' noticeboard. Congrats! Andrevan@ 07:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Congrats! ^Bongo_matic 07:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Also, congrats on making it to the WP:200! Andrevan@ 07:41, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Well done Doc, couldn't have happened to a nicer fella. I will have a Cass in your honour tonight.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 07:46, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
    • From me too! Good thing those two rather peculiar entries were added to the "oppose" section. Otherwise it would have looked too much like a !vote in the good old Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union. Happy mopping! Favonian (talk) 08:46, 27 May 2011 (UTC) Semper Bacon
      • Good job! I never had the slightest doubt you'd be successful. Congratulations on achieving such an overwhelming level of support. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 08:53, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Well done but shame on you for knowing people who are atheists interested in atheism. Catfish Jim (ex-soapdish) 09:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Congratulations at such an overwhelming result! Including the comic relief - RfA without drama are strictly forbidden. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Your uniform issue T-shirt has arrived. Heel veel gedaan! Mjroots (talk) 12:35, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
  • • And of course THE MOP! --Ron Ritzman (talk) 14:02, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
  • Good luck with your new job! Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:38, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations! You'll wield the mop well, I am certain. LadyofShalott 13:47, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Agree with all of the above. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 15:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

That thing the above people are calling a 'mop' is really a festering, rotting mass that's been sitting in a disused lavatory for the last 18 months. I know you're obsession with bacon has fractured your olfactory sense, but trust me...it stinks high holy. Good luck 'using' it. I recommend sticking it in a oil drum filled with bleach for a few days, at least. Of note; all requisitions for new mops have of late been denied due to the sheer number of prior user resignations. It's a cost saving measure, plus its reusing resources. Go green! --Hammersoft (talk) 16:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Careful Hammersoft, or I'm blocking you as a sock puppet of this editor based purely on coincidence and my whim. If anything is bothering my sense of smell, it's the fact that we're painting just about everything in the house. Drmies (talk) 17:31, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• !!! Admin abuse already?!!?!?!? You big boobie! that edit summary is hysterical! BTW, I'm already an abusive sockpuppet of Betacommand. Your lack of knowledge of that shows grave incompetence. :) --Hammersoft (talk) 17:47, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Congrats! I actually have seen you around, and thought that you were already an admin. A very successful nomination and run, indeed! --Doktor Plumbi (talk) 17:55, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Adding mine to the peals o' praise. Geoff ^{Who, me?} 21:26, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Drmies/Rob Hoeke

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• Look, "Drmies", don't mess with things in my user space, alright?

Congratulations

thumb|right|150px|It's like that.

EvilDrmies is watching you!

Breaking the "200" barrier is a very rare event. Nice going. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 19:12, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks Michael. I'm tickled. I need to write up some thankspam or message of some sort--but right now I'm sort of playing around with the buttons. Did you know that with my new admin powers I can tell what you're wearing? That polo looks really nice on you, by the way. I hope you won't tuck it in when you leave the house, though. Drmies (talk) 19:17, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
• A late congratulations from me too. By the way, when you're using that orb, if you see any flaming eyes turn it off. I still can't sleep most nights. -- Atama頭 20:00, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

And an even later congrats from me! If you need any advice, feel free to drop me a line. GedUK  15:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

ANI comment illogical

(Posting here since ANI thread closed.)

Your comment regarding patience [[2]] is not reasonable, as the insult referenced [3]:

1. occurred 16 hours after I pointed out such remarks were inappropriate [4], and

2. calling someone "shit" is an obvious insult in any culture I'm aware of.

To be clear, I have no problem with the thread being closed with a warning from another editor -- it simply would have been redundant for me to make a second posting to the user's talk page on the same issue. Gerardw (talk) 20:01, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. Of course "Shit" is an insult, but your pointing out that an earlier remark was inappropriate (diff above) isn't a very clear warning, to be honest: "Statements like "take writing classes...community college..." are not appropriate here" sounds more like a gentle nudge than a warning. This warning, which came after Deng's warning, is a bit more clear. And in the end, editors need to be given a warning in no uncertain terms and then violate a policy or guidelines again before an admin is going to take action. Please read the headnote to ANI: it is for cases that require "incidents on the English Wikipedia that require the intervention of administrators", and this didn't require the intervention of an administrator, since the editor (unless I'm mistaken) changed their tune after that final warning. The rest of that back and forth between them and Jasper Deng, well, as Jasper Deng indicated at ANI, that's water under the bridge. In short: warn, and warn clearly (we have those templates for a reason), so there is no misunderstanding about what an editor has done wrong in your opinion. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 20:11, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

K. Gerardw (talk) 21:00, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I'll say one more thing: Y'all are talking on the talk page, and there seems to be consensus for what you and Jasper proposed. The sourcing for the other version, so to speak, simply isn't there, and the 'shorter version', as it is called on the talk page, does not suffer from the fairly obvious issues of POV. Keep an eye on it, and keep it cool. Clear insults should be met with a warning, and if they persist, reported to AIV where they will be swiftly dealt with. If an insult like that to Jasper is repeated, a block is the next step. Let's hope it doesn't get that far. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 21:45, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Based on Wikipedia:DR#For_urgent_situations, I thought ANI was the place for (beyond WQA) personal attacks? And thinking about it some more, I still think your comment isn't logical -- what you seem to be saying isn't that I'm not patient enough, it's that I was too wimpy on the warning. ;) Gerardw (talk) 22:00, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Want some practice?

I just came across my first adminly task since your ascension: moving Florenz Ziegfeld to Flo Ziegfeld. This move seems completely obvious, common-sense, and uncontroversial per WP:STAGENAME. But if you're not sure how to do it yet, or you think it might not be as uncontroversial as I think it is, I'll just slap a {{db-move}} on the target page. I just figured I'd give you first shot at it. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:12, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Mandarax, I am not sure you appreciate how complicated these situations can be. I will be glad to have my secretary place it on the calendar--provided that, of course, by that time the paperwork is in. Oh, tomorrow is Saturday, and Monday is Memorial Day, and Tuesday I have a hair appointment. In other words, I'll get to it. As soon as I check your credentials, naturally. Drmies (talk) 23:33, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
  • OK, there is a page history: [5]. That's all it was. Is that a "minor" history per Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Closing_instructions#Moving_procedures? I'm not entirely sure. The other thing, Wikipedia:New_admin_school has no step-by-step for moving over a redirect (or, in this case, merging histories, since I assume that's what needs to be done even for such a tiny history). In other words, I'm going to have to call a lifeline. Is anyone around? Or, if you like, place the template on there and suggest to the admin who does it that they drop me a line. I appreciate the practice and apologize--sorry, this is my first day on the job! ;) Drmies (talk) 23:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
    • (talk page stalker) ... and you are already as good as the rest of 'em :-) Sitush (talk) 00:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, let me try to talk you through it... hang on, this will take me a few minutes to type up probably. LadyofShalott 00:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

• Tell it to move Florenz Ziegfeld to Flo Ziegfeld.
• When it asks if you want to delete to make way for the move, click the box that says yes, you really want to do that, and then press the button to tell it again to make the move.
• At this point, you will have the article located at Flo Ziegfeld, with that (probably minor enough to have been avoided, but what the heck, it hurts nothing to save it, and this is a learning experience) history deleted.
• Now, go into the history tab (well, I think it's that one... I've having a little trouble remembering without actually doing it)... if it is not that, try under delete this page - maybe it's really that one... Anyway, in one of those, you'll get an option to view deleted edits. Choose that, and then then tell it to restore those edits, using a summary along the lines of "merging histories".
• Now you'll have that useless page as the current version. So you'll have to go into the history, and get the most recent good edit and make it the current one by editing that version and saving it.

I hope this makes some sort of sense. I was afraid for the longest time even to try history merges until I decided (I think because of prodding from you) that I had to learn it, and I did so in my sandbox. I suggest you go ahead and try it, but if you would rather not yet, let me know, and I'll do it. LadyofShalott 00:53, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I've created such a fuss. I wouldn't have suggested it on your first day if I'd realized how complicated it would be. I thought that since that edit was so extremely minor, and was created a month after the main article existed, that the page could simply be deleted and the other moved in. Thanks to both of you. BTW, I'm astonished that the page has existed for seven years without being moved! Having the article with the "Flo" title just seems like such a no-brainer to me. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:16, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, you're just a sucker for show tunes, I imagine. Take back your mink... Anyway, it's that "simply be deleted" that made me hesitate, that one little line of text that was there. See below, my question to Fetchcomms. Drmies (talk) 02:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Boom. See how easy that was? I didn't even have to pull out my pocket-sized atom smasher or anything. Just a few mental calculations about the impact this would have on the space-time continuum to check that nothing would blow up and voila! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:28, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, thanks Fetchcomms, there goes my learning experience! But you deleted that very first entry, the one before the redirect was made. It wasn't much, but that's what I was trying to save.

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• Anyway, here I am: User:Drmies/Flo. I have moved User:Drmies/Florence, and, Lady, it was that tiny little note, top left, 'view/restore deleted edits' or something like that. I selected it, clicked 'restore', and it placed it at the bottom of the history but left the current article intact. Mandarax, thanks for asking: I'm glad I got to do this exercise. Lady, thanks for taking the time to type this stuff up. Fetchcomms, thanks for what you're going to do next: write a page for new admins where you explain this patiently, in English, and where you also explain what 'minor' and 'major' is. Because, if I understand it correctly, that first edit is now gone but that doesn't seem to be a problem. Am I reading your action correctly? Drmies (talk) 02:16, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, so it must have made some kind of sense then. Glad it wasn't totally useless. :) LadyofShalott 02:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Far from it, Lady. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Check it out, Lady: I restored the one single edit, and it put it in its place automatically--so your last point, "Now you'll have that useless page as the current version", was handled by the machine. Drmies (talk) 02:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Huh. Interesting. I have had to do that last step. See, e.g. [6]. Maybe I did it backwards. LadyofShalott 02:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, interesting. Wait--I see now that I didn't restore the redirect (the second and last edit), only the one edit with text--does changing text into a redirect need to be reflected in the history as well? Let's see what happens--done, and here it is. Could it be related to when that redirect was made, so that in your case it was the most recent one, maybe? Drmies (talk) 02:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, maybe... I'm just not sure at this point. LadyofShalott 02:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC) In related matters, you can see that I tend to be of the major/minor/who-cares-it's-part-of-the-history mindset - and just save it all (assuming it's not just grossly insulting or has some other reason it should not be saved). LadyofShalott 02:49, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I think I am too. CoM once set me straight on that point, in Creepmime. Since then I'm merging where others might simply blank and redirect. Wow, that was three years ago already. Drmies (talk) 03:08, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, if you're restoring something, it goes to its original timestamp, so that first edit was in 2004 and got stuck where it was supposed to be. If the edit on the redirect was in May 2011, then it would've gotten stuck as the current version and have to be reverted after restoration. Also, for major/minor, I usually don't bother with those kinds of very old edits because there's no attribution that needs to be preserved. But restoring it is no problem and I'm just lazy :P. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:12, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

• Well, I got some exercise out of it, that's always useful. Now get to writing that manual! Drmies (talk) 03:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Drmies, I think you handled this admirably. Rather than just pushing ahead when you weren't absolutely certain, you asked for advice and used it as a learning experience. Consider this Question 12, and you gave a good answer.

As for restored revisions, I wish Wikipedia dealt with them differently. There's no indication that they're restored, and the logs don't specify which revisions were restored. To anyone going through the history, those restored edits do not appear to be constructive at all. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:58, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. It was interesting. One of the problems I ran into at new admin school is that my pull-down menus etc (you know the word for it) are different from what the instructions propose, so I'm looking around a little bit more. Wait--is this my editing interface? Is that what you would call it? Anyway, Mandarax, you have a point: if you look at that first IP's edit you'd think they're a vandal or something. But then--consider the enormous amount of information that would have to be stored. I already suffer from information overload, esp. with these new buttons! And I'm going to use this as a jumping point into...

...a new learning experience

Hey Lady, I tried to do a decent thing at Amaya (TV series), as you can see--copyvio. Obviously it's not enough to just delete the one. What do I do? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

psst! delete all of the affected revisions. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I thought so--I wanted to check since this also removes free (though not helpful) text. So that's just a kind of collateral damage? And did I do it right? I checked the box that only removed text, not the rest. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 17:50, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to jump into this convo, but that begs a question I've had for a while. When I find blatant, large copyvios:

• On NewPages, can I presume that G12 tagging is sufficient to ensure it's deleted and there's no available revision?
• On existing pages, besides blanking out (or reverting) the copyvio'd text, should I be requesting a revdel of the appropriate revisions? I'm guessing doing so may make it easier for you guys to jump in with the mop and clean it up (as opposed to me simply removing the content and not pointing it out).
• How important are the revdels in such matters, and do such get equally applied to all blatant copyvios?

I run into all sortsa things via newpages and recentchanges, and probably should have asked these questions before. Thanks, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 18:16, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Good question. G12, followed by deletion, should take care of that, yes. The second point, I used to do the same thing, simply revert, but it does leave the offense in the history. I'll leave this for any talk page stalkers. Thanks Robert, Drmies (talk) 18:19, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I tried to reply to this last night, but connection issues didn't allow me to make the post. It does make sense to delete any copyright violation versions so that no one can just revert to one. If they are in the history, even a good faith editor might revert to one that looks like a better version - without realizing that it's a violation. I'm not sure what the policy is about deleting all versions with the violation. I'm not that experienced with these. (I tend to recommend taking any questions like these to Moonriddengirl as the copyright guru.) As for new articles, I agree that G12 should take care of the issue. LadyofShalott 12:27, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

My experience has been that the strictly correct thing to do is to delete all versions of the article from its history up to the one immediately before the copyright violation was introduced. Malleus Fatuorum 14:27, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

That all makes perfect sense. Thank to both of you. Drmies (talk) 17:02, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks all. I'll remember to make it a personal policy to request a revdel in such cases... which of course brings me to the next question (apologies if this is simply because I haven't dug far enough to find the correct board). Is there a specific place to request revdels, or should I just annoy bug pile more work on find an admin and drop them a note? Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 04:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Koninginnedag

If you are done trying out all your shiny new tools (used Special:Nuke yet?), could you have a look at WP:Featured article candidates/Koninginnedag/archive1? I have opposed because I don't think the article is comprehensive, but it's quite possible that I am wrong. Ucucha 11:04, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. I had a look and made some quick comments. I'm perusing the archives right now, but I think I agree on the general point re: newspaper sources. Surely there are books, articles, dissertations... Drmies (talk) 18:15, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Please continue to look and let me know what you find. I am certainly willing to obtain any necessary books. I am not a Dutch speaker but between google translate and doublechecks by people who do speak Dutch, I think it will be OK. As I noted in my other post, I am pulling the FAC.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:23, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congrats on adminship! Too bad I wasn't there to vote. Have you seen RfPP lately? Like this and this. Elockid ^(Talk) 15:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks! I could have used your vote--it was close. But I needed twenty more, I think, to tie Newyorkbad. I'll have a look, Drmies (talk) 17:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

My sincere condolences congratulations!!! Good luck to ya in your expanded Wiki-endeavors!!! Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | ^TK/_CN 18:11, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh well

I'm pulling the article from FAC. I trust you'll be willing to look in from time to time as I rework it? I don't plan to renom it soon, perhaps late this summer. Also, have they actually said what will happen to Koninginnedag when the Queen retires or passes away? Given the proximity of WA's birthday ...--Wehwalt (talk) 19:21, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hi Wehwalt, I'm sorry to hear that. And actually I haven't been able to look at all the archives and databases I wanted to (kids...), but I will later and will let you know. Feel free to pass on whatever you find: I will be happy to help and translate. Did I see you've been to six of 'em already? (Did you ever see the queen?) It's my favorite day of the year, and haven't been able to "be" there for it since the 90s. Thanks for your note, Drmies (talk) 19:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Subduing your very aggressive bacon

I've taken the liberty of playing with your user page a bit. I didn't like the way the bacon was attacking the admin. I've made the bacon slightly smaller (to reflect your move from bacon to salt pork) and left it in the same relative position, but both of those attributes can easily be changed now. Or, of course, if you prefer it the way it was, I won't mind if you revert it. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:03, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you so much, Mandarax! I'm no good at such things. Drmies (talk) 23:30, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Blurb at The Signpost

Hi, could you check the blurb I wrote, and edit if necessary. Thx. Nice musical interests! Tony (talk) 15:04, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hey Tony, thanks. I'm really not very active with the novels project, I have to say--in fact, I'm not active in any official project at all, I think. If I'm active in anything more or less official, it's DYK. Hey, when did I acquire music interests? That's the second time I hear that. Did Mandarax forward you a copy of the Hendrix album I sent him? Thanks again! Drmies (talk) 17:19, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
  • First on your list of article created, and more. I'll change the blurb. Tony (talk) 03:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Notable?

Theatre Tour. ^Bongo_matic 04:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

• No. You're probably dealing with a fan who turns every thing into articles and sticks it in templates. Drmies (talk) 04:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: note on aiv report

"it doesn't rise to the level of a single, blockable offense...". So what in your opinion is *enough* offense to report to administrator then ? "man, people have thin skins" - and this is really beyond me to understand .... He attacked me, so I reported breaking Wikipedia:Etiquette to administration, what was wrong with that ? Regards, Sir Lothar (talk) 08:17, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

So, I suppose I should've talked back to this user in the same manner as he did (calling him names etc.) ? OK, I'll remember it for next time. Sir Lothar (talk) 08:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Besides, administrator who undid my report didn't answer my question why he felt it's not enough to report to administrator so I've repeated on WP:AIV. Sir Lothar (talk) 08:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

• You report something to AIV. I am an administrator, and in my opinion what that person said was not bad enough to be blocked for. The rules for what should be reported to AIV are quite clear, and they are listed on top of the page. No, you shouldn't talk back to them in the same manner. That's a silly thing to suppose. And you should not report someone to AIV for such an offense--a level-2 NPA ("no personal attacks") warning is more than enough. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
  • OK, I see. So the only thing I can do is to put him warning on his user talk, right ? Regards, Sir Lothar (talk) 05:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I never could figure out...

...why anyone would want to be a Wikipedia admin: such a thankless job, and you can't even use your powers to get even with people! But, I guess that's just me (and explains why I'll never be an admin and should never be an admin), for you: congratulations, and I hope you enjoy having the mop. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:25, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

• BMK, your job is much more thankless than mine, all those SPI things that you do. What's the joy? It needs to be done and I'm glad you're doing it. I've only been on the job for a day or two, but so far so good. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 19:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

thanks

Hi Drmies, and thank you for the nice words at the Bridge of Remembrance, Christchurch dyk nom. It also appears that congratulations are in order as you've been handed the "mop"!! Would be glad to collaborate with you on an article if you were to suggest one. Cheers, --Rosiestep (talk) 00:48, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hey, sure thing. I've been admiring your work, see it often enough at AfD. And thanks! As for the last thing, I got a few things on the back burner that I need to bring up to higher status. When I clear my mind and decide on what to get busy on I'll let you know; I can always use a hand. BTW, I'm partial to your name--one of the women in my life, a two-year old, is named Rosie. Drmies (talk) 02:31, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Redirect to CAT:CSD

No problem. I'm surprised, as I wouldn't have expected a redirect to appear in the category. Nyttend (talk) 03:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Isabella Psalter

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DYK for Queen Mary Psalter

The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Hm. This page appears to be getting peppered with psalters. - Sitush (talk) 08:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

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Would you please look at the recent history of that page and see what you think of the issue? (I'll admit up front that I didn't notice the addition of the other publishers; I have no objection to adding them, but I do object to removing the ISBNs.) LadyofShalott 22:46, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

• That's a bunch of nonsense. More is better, always, and the argument that since it's incomplete it's better to be more incomplete is hogwash. Does that help? And will you trim the EL section, or do you want the bad cop to do it? I'm on kale, by the way. Drmies (talk) 22:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I'll see if I can do it tomorrow, or later if I can make my computer behave. It's having some weird "issues". LadyofShalott 22:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

That's what she said. Drmies (talk) 23:09, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, I got it functional again. Now to wait for the cries of dismay that half the links are gone. LadyofShalott 00:16, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

I made a redirect based on text in your article that says Dinoraur kale. Then I looked at "what links here" and saw you had already redirected Dinosaur kale. So, do you have a typo and I need to speedily delete an improbable redirect? (If it really is dinosaur kale, the article needs to explain that name!) LadyofShalott 00:23, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

The Larousse Gastronomique has a curious lack of kale. LadyofShalott 00:33, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

• Well, their lack is nothing compared to what the science and biology databases have to offer on our species--not a damn thing! And I need some science stuff, esp. since I just found this. Drmies (talk) 01:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Oops. Well, you try this with two screaming kids, dinner needing to be cooked, and an open house on Sunday. I've been painting for days, and it's hardly over. Aw, I just got an invitation to come to the marching band party--and it has a very life-like picture of me on the front. My oldest daughter finally writes her "J" the right way around, haha, which she couldn't resist but point out to me. Drmies (talk) 01:29, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

06:48, 1 June 2011 (UTC) XAЯAbИAM ʕTЭY TI bAЭЯ UOY ЭVAH .ЭTOИ YM ИOITИЭM OT ЭMIT ЭTAIЯqOЯqqA ИA – YAW ЭHT Yd !OOT YAW TAHT ЯЭTTЭl A ИЭTTIЯW ЭVAH YAM I

Heehee, I really was asking at first, not trying to give you a hard time - I had actually made the redirect, taking the spelling at face value until I saw the other one! That's cute about the J - it's a big deal when writing's new to you. LadyofShalott 01:35, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

I think 'dinoraur' ought to be a word. Do you care to expand the new gardening section? I have come across dozens of references already in Google books (my search term is simply 'lacinato'), but I have writing about gardening--almost as much as I hate writing about living people. Drmies (talk) 01:40, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll give it a whirl. Any particularly juicy refs I should start with? LadyofShalott 01:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

<--And now you're throwing out my repellent. (Sheesh! thanks....) That's it--no more WPing while the kids are running around. Drmies (talk) 02:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

No worries, did you see the correction I've beem getting on my talk page about history? Apparently I repeated a common mistake (since removed) in the Franklin House article. BTW, did you see that someone has translated it to the de.wikipedia? I'm not done with the kale cultivation, but I think I'm about done for the night. LadyofShalott 02:57, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

I did see that, yes. I think you and Mr. Quibbler should go on a date. Drmies (talk) 03:19, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Hahahaha! Mrs. Q. just might have a problem with that! LadyofShalott 03:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm getting the impression that a lot of the basic information about cultivation is just general kale info, rather than specific to this cultivar. If I could come up with any scholarship about the 18th c. origins of it, that would be good. I don't know whether that exists or not though. LadyofShalott 03:54, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've done it...

I've nominated Camak House for GA. Now I'm nervous. I see that there's a backlog at GAN; so who knows when someone will get to it. LadyofShalott 13:01, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

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DYK May 25

Hi Drmies!

You have a good grasp of WP canon law, and experience with DYK, and maybe you could look at the latest objection to the (May 25th) Social Democrats, USA nomination? Thanks! Best regards,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:43, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Bringing home the bacon

Hey Doc, do you think you can expand this? Actually if you could delete it that would be good too. What about User:Kelapstick/Turbaconducken, would be nice if it could be DYKd, but I don't think it can be expanded much...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:48, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

You might not like this suggestion, but... I think you should merge the latter into Turducken#Variations. LadyofShalott 13:37, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

And you call yourself a member of the Bacon Cabal...actually you are probably right...Doc, want to practice merging histories?--kelapstick^(bainuu) 13:48, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

I feel like such a party pooper. LadyofShalott 00:41, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Mitch Skandalakis

Well, thank you for this article Victuallers (talk) 08:03, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Skandalakis was re-elected to a full term in 1994, running as a moderate Republican and openly courting gay voters. Are you sure that courting is the correct word to be used? I understand the context, but...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:16, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Aw Dodo...

Getting mushy, eh? =) Might want to read the last entry of my FAQ then. Get the tissues! The message I left is really my own personal template. I got tired of writing the same thing. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)