User talk:Dr. Blofeld

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Concise wikipedia proposal

Made a proposal at here for a concise edition of wikipedia which is formatted much like an old book encyclopedia with the bare main facts and a smallish word limit for articles as a reference point. Can't imagine all would support, but any input from anybody would be warmly welcome.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:45, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Not a bad idea but why should it be formatted like an old book? Maybe the first priority would be to define volume in terms of both length of individual articles and overall length of the publication. Maybe max. 500 words per article and 100,000 articles for the enterprise. --Ipigott (talk) 21:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I was thinking that, a virtual book. And yes, 400-500 words I was thinking of. Also proposed a scaling of the Geograph project to a global one, imagine having access to photos of every square kilometre of Danish islands for instance!! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:27, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

WikiGeograph (or perhaps WikiGeophotograph) seems a better name. I was not aware of the existence of the UK Geograph and have just been playing around with it. I found the navigation very easy and discovered lots of photos of places I know well. Yes, it would indeed be great to have the same approach for Denmark - and of course for Luxembourg too. But maybe it would be more manageable to take it one continent or country at a time, starting with Europe, at least to assist project management. --Ipigott (talk) 08:22, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Isn't that already kinda what Simple Wikipedia does? The articles are shorter, simpler and don't have all the details of the WP ones and if the person wants a longer one they can come here. Kumioko (talk) 09:22, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Not really. Simple wikipedia is simple English and articles may be as long as anybody wishes. Simple and concise are not the same thing.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:51, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I am fairly new to it but have been editing there quite a bit this month and it seems that the general attitude there is that the article should be simply written and short, lacking many of the deep in the weeds details that would be required for an article here to make it to FA. The general attitude seems to be that if the reader wants to get more details then they can simply go to the larger more complete article (presumably) here if they want more info. Kumioko (talk) 14:06, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

First, I am thrilled to see that you are still active, Kumioko. I have been thinking for some years about trying to do something there, but bloody things keep popping up on an almost daily basis here. Basically, my own impression, for what little that might be worth, is that a lot of the content there is, more or less, a bit longer than the lede sections in the main wikipedia are supposed to be. That is in no way bad, but I myself think, maybe, it might not be a bad goal to have most of the articles for a possible "concise wikipedia" to be basically about as long as our ledes here, with maybe some of the more involved articles, like United States, Christianity, Physics, and others a bit longer, serving as sort of an equivalent to the Britannica macropedia articles. Maybe. Anyway, Kumioko, if you ever deal with any content relating to Christianity over there, and think that maybe some discussion of it in the Christianity newsletter here would help, let me know, or, if you want, maybe even write out what you want to include in it. John Carter (talk) 01:29, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Kumioko (talk) 02:00, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes, technically every wikipedia article should have a book encyclopedia type lead summary. Unfortunately the vast majority don't have a decent lead...

Since I don't keep track of going ons on Meta much, please keep me abreast of any developments in relation to this project. Thanks. Volunteer Marek  02:32, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Not likely much, the response has been a little underwhelming. When 10 times as many people comment on an RFA than a new encyclopedia proposal it makes you wonder why you bother...♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:28, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

I still think this is an excellent proposal. The only reason for my hesitation in becoming actively involved is that I tend to commit myself to too many things at the same time. But I am nevertheless a strong supporter of the idea. --Ipigott (talk) 21:27, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, I think we all have the same thoughts about commitment to such a project. but its just those who are interested in the concept initially I guess. Such a project would pick up contributors anyway if it was created.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:50, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I think we do have enough support, but just not clarity in them. Maybe a plan on the issue might help. Everyone has different ideas about everything else. So a point-by-point discussion might help. (P.S. I dont check the meta much so it might help if you just tell me when something happens there) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 06:48, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Blofeld! I like your idea a lot, so I've been playing around a bit with a demo which I think you might find interesting: http://waldir.github.com/primerpedia/ Let me know your thoughts! --Waldir ^talk 22:04, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Cool!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 09:44, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Myopia in animals

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for High cheekbones

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Guldborg

Good morning. Nomed it and used your QPQ. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:05, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Hola

Hi, great to see you back. I wish you drop by and say hello. smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 17:26, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Keep up the good work on Bollywood!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 17:47, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Count me in the folks glad to see you back, Dr. B. Perhaps soon you'll have my employment application for Spectre... --j⚛e decker^talk 19:45, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Joe!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:04, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Eugene Turenne Gregorie

Dr. Blofeld, I'm trying to follow your lessons (recent and past). Could you look over this article to make sure I haven't done anything gross, especially the Fair Use picture of Eugene Turenne Gregorie. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:49, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

This source. You should format the title, publisher. author, date and access date info.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:04, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done - Thanks for noting. You are really sharp. When you get working intensely on an article you develop tunnel vision. Your fisheyes are wide-angled. Let me know IF you see anything else and I will correct and improve accordingly.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:51, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Remove empty fields in the citation plates, take up unnecessary room. Try to format the dates consistently, I write them as 1 December 2012 as I think it looks neater. Like LA Times, Find a Grave needs publisher split from the title and the exact title given. Lead needs significant expansion to summarize the article.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:56, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

O.K. will go to work on that. Muchas gracias for hints.

On the hook I opted for ... that Eugene Turenne Gregorie was a designer of the 1936 Lincoln-Zephyr referred to as "the first successfully streamlined car in America"?

However the source you noted has a potential hook line, which I reworded in the article as Gregory was ultimately given the accolade of being the "grand old man" of Ford car design.[9]

Any ideas on improvement on hook line? If you don't mention anything, I'll assume the hook line I submitted is alright.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:10, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Cornish settlements

Thank you for the barnstar you sent me recently; it was interesting working on those but they do vary in quality. Even if no citation was added I have at least found them on a one-inch, 1:50: 000 OS map or (when a Commons image was available) OS Get-a-map. --Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 09:49, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Railway station names

I have proposed that all railway station names in India be suffixed only with ‘railway station’ and all pages named otherwise be suitably altered. Kindly give your views on this subject in Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 14:01, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Maison Novelli

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Dimple

I'm looking at finalizing the review process. Everything seems fine except "buzzintown", which needs to be replaced. —Vensatry _{(Ping me)} 17:51, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Soyuzivka

Greetings, Dr. Blofeld! (I was appropriately amused when I saw your name) I noticed you had some edits on the Soyuzivka page and was wondering if you could find some time to improve the page? I dropped some links on the Talk page which can be researched. Cheers, toward World Domination. Gamweb (talk) 22:02, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Bit busy this week, but I'll see what I can do.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Guldborg

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Administrator's penis

I saw this the other day and immediately thought of you. It is Warsaw's Palace of Culture and Science or as the local's call it, Stalin's penis. I'm sure you could add that to one of your penis articles someplace. Hmmm, I see a penis and think of you... there are so many ways to spin that.

Not sure if you knew about the adopted changes regarding administrator's coming back. Bgwhite (talk) 21:46, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

So when you have a pee, you think of me too LOL? Yes I am aware of the changes which was why I returned in the knowledge they were about to be passed and I just barnstarred Bisanz for helping enact them.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:49, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

BG, I can't imagine why you would think of Blofeld...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 14:03, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Ernst: I'm married, therefore my wife forces me to pee while sitting down.

Kelapstick: Yea, I don't know why. Ernst is bald, plays with cats and has penis envy, no wonder he wants to destroy the world. Bgwhite (talk) 19:56, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Iran

• 11.5 done 19.5 to go. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:52, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

provinces

Sure, will look at sourcing Luang Prabang Province history. Still tidying up the refs, tedious, but it has to be done. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:30, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Looks like much of the history is verbatim from here. I'm too tired to chop it out (probably should just blank out the history to be safe), but it needs a total re-write. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:12, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Ergh, I got it from the main city article. I can't actually access that source though..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

How close are we to getting this project done, i.e. can you figure out which provinces need more work vs. which ones have enough content? I want to concentrate on the right ones vs. bouncing around the way I've been doing it. Also, I see you're currently at 991. Do you have other noms which will take you over the threshold, or are you still shooting for the Lao mega-hook? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:37, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Cool! BTW, I'm working through these today. I'll be editing "Protected area" section of the specific province, so shouldn't interfere with your edits. In the main sandbox, I created a header for "Meets requirements"; when you think an article is ready, please move it into there. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:16, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Definitely will not move anything!! Figure you'll be the one to pull the trigger on that. Great about the maps; and BTW I love the montages. Just saw the Luang Namtha map; it's awesome! Will do at the end of the day. Regarding the new maps: I love them, just not sure about the forced left placement. Try looking at them from firefox and chrome (don't know what you use). Wonder what they'd look like in the Admin/Districts section on the right as there's a gaping while space on the right. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Map placement in the infobox in Attapeu is perfecto. Go for it. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Uploaded imgs are in the gallery section of the articles. I am still in the process of adding text to the Laos articles. Hope to complete this weekend.

• I think I have covered all the articles. You may now like to finalise them. If some more text is required in any of the articles, please let me know. However, in a few articles some paragraphs need citations.--Nvvchar. 17:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Phongsaly Province - History is done. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:40, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

• Reference says cm but I have now taken it as mm as the conversion with cm to inches becomes a very large figure of rainfall. Please correct the reference format. I could not do it even after repeated trials.--Nvvchar. 01:33, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry Dr.B, I could not upload images from the French wikipedia article. I tried a lot. May be I am not very conversant with the procedure for transfer from one wikipedia to another, but from the flickr there is no problem. I have completed/added demographics inputs to the articles mentioned in the sandbox user pages but could not correct the reference even though I have checked thoroughly. My be the Google Map url is missing. Also, I could not add more on history of another article since I could not find any in books.--Nvvchar. 10:00, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Dimple

Hey! Thanks for getting it to ga. It seems the list of notable articles was fixed by Vensatry.--Dwaipayan (talk) 01:46, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

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Removed something from an article

Okay, so I was just wondering if I did something right. If you look at the edit history on Shammi Kapoor, there was this bit of stuff in the lead section, and I removed it, because it was a direct lift from the reference, and it wasn't capitalized properly. But what worries me more that it was sort of slandering Rajesh Khanna. OK, slander's a strong word, but still. If the editor comes back, rephrases it and puts the reference back, will it still qualify to be put up there? Also, the notice on the article about it being edited by a source related to the subject, but there's no proof for that. It's been there for eons and eons. Red Hat On Head (talk) 00:46, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Just revert such edits, they're common on Indian articles. I see you have done so.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, what about the notice? Ryan tried contacting the editor - no response. It's been a couple months now. Can I just remove it? And I did see you got Dimple Kapadia to GA! Good job! Red Hat On Head (talk) 23:31, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Just remove it, yeah. Thanks, Rekha and Amitabh sometime maybe..♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:39, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Okay! :D One last question - do YouTube videos count as references? I'm not saying those lousy user-made ones, but like the "Shammi Kapoor Unplugged" stuff as references? They're recounted by Shammi Kapoor himself, so is it okay? Red Hat On Head (talk) 17:11, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

If it's an interview or a reliable news report, yes, I've used them myself on various articles.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 09:42, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Carl Breer

Dear Big Brother,

I need some consultation from you, if you can help me. This article that I just wrote up and submitted to DYK needs a picture of the person. I can not seem to locate a copyright free image - so, may have to enter a Fair Usuage picture. An example I would like to use is from Carl Breer, Executive Engineer is the second picture down of a portrait of him from the Jim Benjaminson collection . Do you think that would be alright as a Fair Usage picture for the article? I'll capture it and enter as Fair Use if you think it is alright. Its a low quality picture, so I don't see a problem - and you?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:31, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

He's dead, and died over 40 years ago so yeah, a fair use image of him is fine.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:25, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Picture looks good in article.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:57, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, File:Carl Breer 1900.jpg is a free image. Unless the image in the infobox is pre 1923 then you can't use it. You can only use a fair use image if no free alterative is available. As it is, the fair use justification is invalid and you should use the 1900 image which in my opinion is a superior image anyway...♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

O.K.  Done--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:09, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Course corrections

	Guidance in the right direction
	Thanks for steering me in the right direction. I appreciate any course corrections you give me. Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:31, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

LOL, thanks!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:48, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Monegros Desert

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Christoph Nichelmann

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

3 Star Michelin Restaurants

Thought you might be interested in this site by Andy Hayler. It's beginning to make me wonder if it might be possible to simply have an article with every three star restaurant on the same table, rather than splitting them up amongst countries as I previously thought. Although I'm wondering if the historic French restaurants might throw a spanner in the works... but I just can't see there being more than an extra fifty restaurants - after all, its not like those types of restaurants simply come and go. I might see what I can "cook" up over the Christmas period. Miyagawa (talk) 09:08, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Allan Holdsworth

Ach, must've been my early morning itchy revert finger kicking in. I can sometimes be like a grumpy bear being awoken from one's winter slumber—impulsive and quick to swat things away. Many thanks for bringing it to my attention. Looking back on it, I totally understand what you mean about the lead section stuff. Hence, I've added your contributions back with some bits cleaned up and many words linked to their respective articles. I think it looks pretty decent now, but do tell me if you spot anything disagreeable. I've been eager for some help on this article for the best part of four years, but nobody's come forward with anything new for a while. I really, really appreciate the fresh images too, since that grainy sepia one from 1976 was rather.. shall we say, outdated, for an infobox of a living musician! Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:06, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Acoustic has never really been my thing. I do have tremendous appreciation for the skill and musicianship involved (Paco de Lucia comes to mind) but, as far as my listening preferences go, I'm strictly a distorted tone kinda guy. Nonetheless, for what's it worth, I rate this as the finest guitar performance of all time (at least since I first watched it in 2006, so I wouldn't rule out something else blowing me away.. one day). Mac Dreamstate (talk) 23:52, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Compositions

Sure - it'll have to be later tonight, though. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:18, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Major pt 2

Since you asked I've kept an eye out. He simply cannot resist! Regards, Ericoides (talk) 17:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pencoedtre

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Another good one! Looks like you have to be careful not to reach 1000 sooner than you want it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Doubt it, my current motivation to edit wikipedia is still pretty low...♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:02, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Grisha Goryachev

I'm not finding anything reliable after a quick search, but according to a comment on this page, the Classical Guitar in Russia and the USSR encyclopedia published in 1992 shows his date of birth as December 29, 1977. I'll keep looking.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 11, 2012; 15:45 (UTC)

I've also found another page (on some guitar wiki) which gives the same date. Google books search for "Гриша Горячев 1977" also returns page 416 of the encyclopedia I mentioned above, although neither text nor snapshots are available. As far as guesses go, this one is pretty good methinks, but of course it would be better to find either another source confirming this date, or someone who can check the paper copy of that encyclopedia.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 11, 2012; 16:02 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Sidi Bou Othman

Mifter (talk) 16:01, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Danish

That's an awesome barnstar, the Danish Barnstar of National Merit, and a new one for me. Thx! --Rosiestep (talk) 21:59, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Savannakhet is done. Then I reviewed each article. Made sure every non-Lead paragraph has an inline citation. Fixed some refs and headers. Four articles have minor issues which I'm too tired to work on tonight. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:03, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

A trivial note

This really is trivial but since one of my stalkers has recently drawn attention to the fact that I mentioned another contributor and didn't let them know that they had been mentioned, see User_talk:Salvio_giuliano#Legalese for a mention of your good self. This is a pointy notification: the stalker will see it, I am fairly sure ;) - Sitush (talk) 00:33, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

I better come clean too. I stubbed my toe, a car cut me off and my wife came home. I uttered your name with other expletives each time. Bgwhite (talk) 01:33, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Does BG stand for Big? ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:38, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Klaus Hofmann

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Cornish settlements

Re: Cornwall === Yeah, it twasn't a good idea to stub them all, I took for granted they were all settlements as such but a lot appear to be farms. I'm all for coverage of tiny hamlets/farms which only appear on OS maps like Goldsland as I think it makes us more valuable as a resource, but only of course if sources can be found. I think a lot of the farms should probably be redirected to nearby villages. I've created Category:Farms in Cornwall anyway, might have missed some from the geography cat, if you could catch those I'd be grateful. Always open to working with you on any expansion of any Cornwall article, sure Gilderien and Rosiestep would also be keen. Just let me know what you want to work on! Regards♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:44, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry not to reply earlier but I have got involved with other topics. For the time being I am unlikely to do much sustained work on these as it is rather time-consuming and some of them are so small they could fail a notability test. One way of improving them would be to work through Craig Weatherhill's A Concise Dictionary of Cornish Place-Names (Evertype, 2009) ISBN 978-1-904808-22-0 (I have a printed copy) noting the earliest record and the etymology he gives. Other editors who have been active in this area in the past have been User:AndyF (retired) and User:Zangar who has made an annotated list of Cornwall-related stub articles.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 10:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Laos provinces

	Provincial and Prefecturial barnstar of Laos
	For expanding wikipedia's coverage on the 16 provinces and 1 prefecture of Laos. Rosiestep (talk) 15:57, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion regarding WikiConcise

Your proposal for WikiConcise seems to be hitting the dust. I see three reasons why this would happen- 1. Not enough coverage in village pump etc so other users can notice 2. Not enough active users on meta (I personally use en wiki a hundred times more than meta) 2. Not enough consensus and clarity among the editors to put it into action - Everyone simply proposed whatever struck their imagination, without realising what others had been saying.

What I suggest is that we make an optional group/WikiProject/Userspace project or anything of some sort, where we invite others to make concise versions of Original Wikipedia articles, and store them in the unified Userspace. Being in the En wiki domain, we can get much more coverage; and having only a few people initially, (Possibly contacting only those who signed on the WIkiConcise page), we will be much more efficient in decision making. Once the project is decided upon more-or-less, and picks momentum among editors willing to contribute we can then invite other editors to join in (through Village pumps) and if it becomes big enough, we can always propose to make it separately under Meta, and simply move all our userspace articles there.

What do you think of this idea? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 19:19, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

It has had more of a response than most proposals made there with 22 supports so far but yes, given that over 100 people turn out at a single FA the response has been rather underwhelming. I'd hoped that the foundation would take the initiative to discuss it further amongst themselves and see how much potential such a project could have and help publicize it more. Yes we could do that, but my feeling is a lot of editors here would think of such a project as a fork and would rather but the effort into WP:LEAD which gives a summary and benefits us. And they have a point.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:24, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

The problem with WP:LEAD is that it still remains a part of the article, and as it turned out, quite a few people would rather see a concise version than have the entire article load on their screens, and having to browse down if the lead is not succinct enough.

As long as we have an initial group of editors who think that Concising is better than WP:LEAD, our work shall be done. I dont think that once the project starts rolling, people will still not see why we want concise, not lead. They possibly might realise the larger of the two benefits. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 19:33, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Exactly, not to mention that WP:LEAD does not give a summary of articles in a category which this concise edition would. I think it could be an important learning tool and especially useful as a reference using mobiles. I don't know about other people but I really want a traditional sort of encyclopedia layout in which articles are short but adequately written which highlights the main points and is consistent, without having to go through the bloat or visit articles devoid of even the basic info. Anyway, help in promoting this would be much appreciated.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:53, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I would also love having a traditional encyclopedia which can be updated to meet the needs of the times, and the changing news (The one place wiki scores over EB if we were to go traditional). Although I would personally prefer only a limited number of articles, say the 1000 most important articles. It would ensure we do not see unimportant stubs on some obscure albums by an equally obscure band. What do you think of that?

What can be done to promote this? And how can I personally help in doing that? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 20:12, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Don't know about 1000 most popular articles as most of them would be Justin Bieber, Kanye West, Britney Spears, sex positions and evil American politicians, but certainly the initial aim could be to cover the Britannica topics of its last publication as a starting point or to highlight 1000 important articles ourselves and what we consider to be core/high importance articles we really need reliable consistent length articles on. I would rather prefer a virtual book format too which in searching for something would bring you to the page with it on and also give the option to explore the category it is in as if in a chapter of a book. I'll ask Jimbo tomorrow what he thinks the best thing to do with this is. I think you may be right about trying to get some foundations laid on here first.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:17, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

I did say 1000 most important articles, not popular. Maybe you misread that.

Alright. With luck, some other users shall also respond positively and we might make some progress and get people to actually get started with something here TheOriginalSoni (talk) 20:36, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, to have much stricter content requirements, anything which would not be found in a traditional encyclopedia excluded. I'd accept notable albums which have extensive book coverage like Dark Side of the Moon or Revolver, but the criteria would have to be strict. Of course there are thousands of articles, geo articles or biographies, even plays or films or whatever which never appeared in old general encyclopedias but if they are encyclopedic appropriate include them. Stick to traditional encyclopedic subjects generally though I think. Minor Pokemon characters, James Bond villains, Chris Brown's new single, Buffy the Vampire episodes, Crappy My Space bands wouldn't cut the mustard.. ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:50, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

I am much more in favour of strictly allowing only a given (x) number of articles. That will force us to focus only on the highest quality and importance articles, rather than have 4 articles on preparation, background, aftermath and response of 9/11. We could also merge very closely related articles, and get things shown in the true Concise way. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 18:11, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Now You Has Jazz

Great work on jazz standards tonight. We've needed these articles for such a long time, thank you! Gareth E Kegg (talk) 23:13, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I aim to not only get the missing ones started, but complete the list from I-Z over the next few days. Help fleshing them out is always appreciated of course! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:15, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps Ralph Patt's Vanilla Book is worth informal consideration. (He is arguably a reliable source, as a professional musician with 2-3 booklets whose website has been nicely mentioned by academics Sethares and Griewank, but for its major thirds tuning material.) Kiefer.Wolfowitz 00:53, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Good evening your evilness. There is some untapped gold in the nether reaches of jazzstandards.com for you, and in my errant youth I created an article for virtually all of the songs from Ella's songbook series, many of which have barely advanced beyond stubs in the intervening time..."In Your Own Sweet Way" looks great now! Gareth E Kegg (talk) 23:19, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi there

Hello good doctor, see you are busy as always. Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Vietnamese)#Capitalizing Province etc., your name cited in good context here. Would appreciate checking with you on how you intended your advice implemented. Your advice on capitalization seems to have been entangled with undiscussed moves countrary to recent VN RfC majority and countrary to VN geo RMs to retain Vietnamese names for Vietnamese provinces, which I don't think you support. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:09, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've asked a follow up question there. My concern is to avoid moves capitalizing provinces, which is fairly anodyne, being associated with disruptive db-G6 moves and Vietnamese-accent stripping. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:54, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Ravi Shankar

Very sad demise of a Bharat Ratna awardee, an iconic sitar player. We can write some related articles. You may like to contribute to these Maricha, of epic Ramayana, which is almost finished and Kaurwaki, a historical figure who was the wife (first, second or third is not known) of Emperor Ashoka. I ahve asked Redtiger also to contribute. The Laos template is yet to be moved to DYK talk page, but I don't know how to add names to all articles as at present names of authors for 8 articles appears.--Nvvchar. 08:42, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

One of the greatest musicians of the 20th century and one of the greatest Indians of the 20th century indeed, and a bridge between eastern and western music. That's how he will be remembered. RIP Sir Shankar. Nvv please answer your email!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Wills Brothers of London

[1] - any interest? Specialists in water fountains, apparently. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:57, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Wills Brothers

Shucks, we didn't I think of that?! Martinevans123 (talk) 12:33, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

How incredible. The Wiki Faery Godfather has once again waved his magic stubby wand. Impressed. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:36, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Can you send me a gold shell suit with Savile's name on the back as a reward hehe?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Haha, yes that was so funny. But you're not having mine!! "ah may be infertile.. and am facin' up da fact dat me-Julie may never be able to have anuvva abortion... " Martinevans123 (talk) 15:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Copyedit Ananda Marga

I have started working in this article Ananda Marga. But, I don't know what to do with Ananda_Marga#Chronology, Organisation and Activities. Any idea? And can you please help in copyediting in 1-2 section(s)? --Tito Dutta (talk) 02:07, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

There are far more serious issues than copy–editing in that article. The article is almost wholly based on primary sources. The non–Anandamurti sources like Lombardo (Xlibiris) and Garda (AuthorHouse) are WP:SPS (could also be primary if the authors are disciples or members of AM). Right now the article looks more like a AM pamphlet and less like an encyclopedia entry. Correct Knowledge^«৳alk» 05:59, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd be tempted to practically start from scratch with it, too big to even begin to look at currently I think.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree, the article needs to be rewritten from scratch using reliable secondary sources. Correct Knowledge^«৳alk» 15:52, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Fries Scheepvaart Museum

Fries Scheepvaart Museum - I nomed it. Can you QPQ? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:17, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

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Collabs

Right now I am working on getting Priyanka Chopra to FA. It is awaiting a copy edit from the guild, but I also have almost half a dozen "helpers" on that one. I wouldn't mind you giving some opinions. I was also working on Kuch Kuch Hota Hai for GA, but I am somewhat stuck for new info on that one right now. Do you want to have a look at it? After that I will be free to try something new, maybe non-Bollywood related. Any ideas? BollyJeff | talk 14:30, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Balan, FA etc

Hi Blofeld. I do remember asking for your suggestion on Kajol's article, quite some time back, but I never heard back from you. :( I personally admire your work here and have always wanted to collaborate with you on an article, and I still hope we can do so, sometime in the future. With Balan, however, I give the credit completely to Dwaipayanc for encouraging me to take up the FAC. I still hope, that you are happy that we made it this far. Cheers. :) --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 14:35, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I get pretty busy, if you want to collaborate you need to be persistent hehe!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, ok. So let's collaborate on Shahrukh Khan's article. Reading the current version of it gives me the creeps. Up for it? --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 15:03, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

It needs a complete overhaul, and better sources I think. Yes, why not, it certainly gets near the highest page views for Indian cinema.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 15:05, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Great. I plan to begin with the acting section first. Let's see where to take it from there? --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 15:13, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I realise that until I possess Anupama Chopra's biography on Shahrukh Khan, I cannot progress with the article. :( --smarojit ^{(buzz me)} 13:58, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Turkey

Sure - maybe even tonight, once I'm done with my Christmas shopping.

I just stubbed a bunch of French Polynesian atolls, incidentally...it felt good. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:38, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Good luck. I'll be in a meeting for a while, so I'll be off-radar again. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:00, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I have to defend him - he went to my alma mater. :-) He's obnoxious, yes, but he's also sharp as a tack. One of the few reasonably intelligent people on American television, I'd say. And he doesn't pretend to be a pundit; he's sort of been turned into one against his will. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:39, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Colbert is intelligent, but I've never liked his delivery as much as I like Stewart's. He actually got his start on Comedy Central working with Jon Stewart, though, so they come from the same school of thought. Letterman's a nasty little man; I try to avoid watching him as much as possible. Chelsea Handler is a waste of space. Jeremy Kyle I don't know, but I gather I don't want to find out. I didn't watch a lot in the 90's, so I'm not sure who it could have been - Ricki Lake, perhaps? She's back on TV now. The other one is Sally Jesse Raphael, but I don't think she was a brunette. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:39, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, she's back, apparently - she's doing another talk show now. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:07, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Bernard Lee on stage, radio, screen and record

Hi Doc, Unless you have any objections, I'm going to rename the page as Bernard Lee on stage and screen, as that's a better reflection of the content. Is that OK with you? - SchroCat (talk) 16:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I was following the John Le Mesurier example rather too closely LOL.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:18, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon (Hong Kong)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon (London)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Fatima-Zahra Mansouri

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Found quite a bit more on your St Paul's Church, Aarhus. --Ipigott (talk) 11:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, very nice job! 1000 DYK milestone has been reached!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:09, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Welcome and Congratulations

Hi and welcome again (sorry for the late welcome message). Great to see you back and also congratulations on your 1000 DYK. If you want to expand some Bollywood films then just msg me. I am looking forward to help you expanding Bollywood film articles. Thanks and keep up the good work. Torreslfchero (talk) 11:24, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks mate! I was going to continue with some Bollywood films in the next few days.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:27, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations on reaching 1000 DYKs! I'll try and finish the Turkey fixes today. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 11:42, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks TAP!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:42, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Whoho! That's really cool. --Soman (talk) 13:31, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

You have 1000 barnstars!

	The Exponential Editor Award
	For not just a single good DYK, or 10, or even 100, but for all 1000 DYKs. Your hard work makes the rest of us look bad, but you do it by making Wikipedia look good. Thanks again! Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 13:46, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

+1. Excellent stuff! - Sitush (talk) 14:31, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Well done, my evil friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:32, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:33, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

• No ordinary, off the shelf barnstar would do for such a momentus occasion. We owe you more than a pint, and should pick up your entire tab for the evening. Just send the bill to Jimbo. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 14:40, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well. --Meno25 (talk) 15:57, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:25, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:44, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I was telling someone else that you are now the only editor who can express his number of DYKs as 10³ now. You need just two dozen more to hit 2¹⁰. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 17:34, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes indeedy. Well done. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:49, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations on reaching four figures! Impressive work! BlueMoonset (talk) 17:52, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Ser and Moon!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 18:12, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Really impressive stuff! Congratulations. Correct Knowledge^«৳alk» 18:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Indeed congratulations on such an impressive milestone! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:17, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

1000 DYKs, there you go in, eh, Vegas style!

Thanks both. Somebody needs to make a new 1000 DYK award, it'll be you and Nvv soon enough!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 18:19, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

• Yay, congrats! Yngvadottir (talk) 19:47, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

• This is indeed a great achievement, especially as they have all been so well researched. We look forward to many, many more. I suppose Jimmy's promised main page will be coming tomorrow. --Ipigott (talk) 21:24, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, look forward to more, and some with you of course!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:29, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

A remarkable achievement. My heartiest congratulations on this feat. I hope Rosiestep and self will be able to achieve it. I am not sure about myself but I am certain Rosiestep will make it. I am sure you will not relax with this achievement and continue your unique talent to enhance the knowledge base in Wikipedia. My best wishes.--Nvvchar. 12:34, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Nvv and Martin.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld

Congratulations

	1000 points of light
	Congratulations on your 1000th DYK, Dr.! Kiefer.Wolfowitz 19:42, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:59, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, an amazing achievement. Incredible. Very well done. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:38, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Stephen Colbert has his 1000th show today. Coincidence? 20:18, 18 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk • contribs)

Amazing coincidence indeed!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:42, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

That looks like a funny show. We Brits are rather partial to satire, I think. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:45, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Richard von Hegener

I think I'm almost done mucking about with this chap - is that more or less what you wanted done to him? Yngvadottir (talk) 19:47, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Excellent! ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:59, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm assuming you'll nom this one? I'll nom Crocodile Zoo, Falster when you're done with it. Can you find more refs for Juan Gómez "Chicuelo"? Manuel Jiménez Moreno "Chicuelo" may interest you; more in his es article. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:31, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Fixed the translation; added infobox; agree img would be helpful but must leave that to you as I'm no guru for bringing in from outside commons. Trinitatis Church and Trinitatis Complex. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:01, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Nomed Juan Gómez "Chicuelo". With Ipigott heading out on vacation and not accessible for a bit, can you sort out the had (not has??) at Crocodile Zoo, Falster, and then I'll nom it? Started Javier Latorre and Miguel Poveda; more in their es articles. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:27, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Marienborg Manor

1=HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:15, 16 December 2012 (UTC) 16:55, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence

		The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence
		Dr. Blofeld, congratulations on DYK number 1001! I am pleased to award this MBE to you in recognition of your stunning and numerically palindromic achievement. (Personally, I've had 10001 DYKs, but that's in binary.) Thanks for all of your hard work which has resulted in high quality articles on Wikipedia in general, and specifically in the DYK section. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:44, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld MBE. I love it!! Thanks!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:59, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

• Ernst Stavro Blofeld, Baron Blofeld of SPECTRE? Then you can be "The Right Honourable Lord Blofeld of SPECTRE"! Thine Antique Pen (talk) 22:11, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Singing along with all praises for great achievements! Welcome to the elite, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Hear hear, Blofeld. It is a remarkable achievement: congratulations. Drmies (talk) 00:37, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks amigos!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:46, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

De nada! You deserve the awards. Sooooo glad to see you're back. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:31, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dr. Blofeld! 1000 DYKs is pretty amazing. Thanks for all the hard work you put in for this project. Jafeluv (talk) 11:16, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Doug and Jafeluv!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:57, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

"Banka" village in Uttar Pradesh

According to this BBC News article, there's a temple to the Goddess of English in "Banka village, Uttar Pradesh". However, at Banka we seem to have villages of that name in Bihar state but not in Uttar Pradesh state.

Is it likely that Banka village exists in Uttar Pradesh but we don't have an article on it, or that it's referred to by some other name, or that the BBC are confused about what state it's in, or something else? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:28, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Lakhimpur Kheri District: Lakhimpur Kheri here, here and here. You will have seen the Op-Ed piece in the NY Times? But we don't list the village in the district article. Yngvadottir (talk) 06:14, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Yngvadottir! No, I hadn't seen it. I'll see what I can make out of these. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:27, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Banka, Uttar Pradesh? I'll see what I can do, sorry had forgotten about this.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:29, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Capitalization again - now Colombia

Now that the provinces of Vietnam are half way of being fixed, someone decided to introduce his style in Colombia. Maybe you can move back before templates and other links are changed? NVanMinh (talk) 08:00, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Waldir's a good guy but I'm unsure why he is moving to lower casing. The general consensus is upper casing as its the name of an admin division.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Infobox settlement - 303887 transclusions

http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=en&name=Template%3AInfobox+settlement#bottom ... I think 500 000 is not too far away. NVanMinh (talk) 08:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Not too far away? Its taken me 6 and half years to almost reach 100,000 articles, another 200,000 to go!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

NEED your help. You see now the counter is 304251. This highly likely comes from my replacements of redirects with the direct link. We can very easy get ~3000 more, with just replacements.

• http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=en&namespace=10&name=Template%3AInfobox+municipality - 749
• http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=en&name=Template%3AInfobox+district#bottom - 2460
• http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=en&namespace=10&name=Template%3AInfobox+department#bottom - 87

I have many more plans on improvements, but we need some more tool support. This streamlining may also help with going towards a concise WP. NVanMinh (talk) 22:49, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

330 000 are very easily reached. Template talk:Infobox settlement/Other templates up for TfD#Redirects for deletion - they break tools. NVanMinh (talk) 23:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Jain temples

We have not done any article together on the above subject. I have started one here User:Nvvchar/Sandbox/Palitana. You may like to expand. I am asking Rosiestep to join. The original article is not well covered. I will look into Puri article. I am asking another user who is from Orissa to also join on this. You may like to see Jagannath, which he has expanded and he is keen to take it to GA.--Nvvchar. 10:28, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Swedish localities

Hi,

The latest official data from Statistics Sweden is:

• "Localities 2010, area, population and density in localities 2005 and 2010 and change in area and population". Statistics Sweden. 29 May 2012. Archived from the original on 17 December 2012. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

Other tables are available at http://www.scb.se/Pages/ProductTables____13013.aspx

I updated all articles back in January. However, they all have the Swedish tabel as a source. Cheers --Skizzik^talk 12:16, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Bente Hammer for deletion

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Turkey

Thank you kindly. I shall work on more talkpages tonight, and add to my tally a bit. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:56, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Sure. Just need to finish these film talkpages and I'll get to it next. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

New page creation

Dr. Blofeld, this has been asked of you before, I'll ask it again now: when you create new pages with a dismbiguator in the page name, please don't use template:pagename as the start of the article, but use the article name without the disambiguator. Something like Yeşilçukurca, Bozüyük shouldn't start with "Yeşilçukurca, Bozüyük is a village" but with "Yeşilçukurca is a village". You have created numerous similar articles, all with the same problem. It is minor, but with the sheer number of articles it does add up.

The same change also needs to be made in the infobox of the article, at the "name" parameter. The disambiguator is not part of the village name, only of the article name. Fram (talk) 16:00, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Further, what checks do you make to prevent e.g. Dodurga, Bozüyük vs. Dodurga, Bilecik? Fram (talk) 16:10, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Fram, it's sorted, Thine is going through after me. And eventually pages which don't need dabbing will be moved to plain names so what is the problem? They are being created this way to ease facilitation between the Turkish wikipedia article which uses the same system.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Yep, I'm fixing them. :) Thine Antique Pen (talk) 16:46, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Yaylapınar, Bayburt created on 14th Dec. Not a problem. Anome will add coordinates in due course, I'll prompt him again now. Now go and create us some Belgium comics Fram and stop fussing, grrrrr LOL. At some point a lot of missing dab pages will need to be done, but I think that can be sorted out later; the amount of people searching for the names in Turkish will be minimal. ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 16:48, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm not talking about creating disambiguation pages, I'm talking about creating two pages for the exact same location, like the two Dodurgas above.

As for "it's sorted", things like Gökçedere, Çubuk, from July 2012, still have the same problem, so forgive me if I'm a bit sceptic of claims that these things are sorted. See e.g. a previous run, that created Yeniköy, Kuşadası, Yaylaköy, Kuşadası, Soğucak, Kuşadası, Kirazlı, Kuşadası, Çınarköy, Kuşadası, ... Fram (talk) 08:26, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

If you could evaluate which haven't been sorted I'll try to organize an AWBer to fix em.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:29, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

No idea how to find them easily now, that's the main reason why getting it right immediately is the easier solution of course. I'll try to think of something (going through all places in Turkey is a possibility, but you hava made similar runs for other countries as well of course). As long as you try not to add any new ones with the same problem, that would be a nice start. Fram (talk) 13:11, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

The old ones were created with a dodgy source, I arranged for that to be fixed with the government verifiable link. At some point I intend to go through adding population data; the text is hidden within the articles. But Thine Antique Pen is pretty on the ball with this and I trust him to take of the articles I am creating currently. I'll check every few districts to see that this is the case.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:14, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Kajetan Mühlmann

Very interesting, will you nom it at TTDYK? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:54, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, once the great Yngvadottir has finished of course, although I might still have some additions, quite a lot of material in google books I think.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 17:10, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Hah, thanks for the flattery ... since it's at or nearly at its 5-day anniversary, you might want to nominate it before I am finished loading it up with sources; all or most of the parts are there, I just have to work around the chaos off-wiki and make it less dependent on Petropoulos' books. Yngvadottir (talk) 05:11, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

This may be ready for rapid nomination. If it were me, I would consider the carrying 3 Old Masters twice on the train between Berlin and Kraków. We have articles on 2 of them. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:09, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Awesome, I'll take a look tomorrow and nom. Thanks for that.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:13, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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DYK for Fries Scheepvaart Museum

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 18:37, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Yay! This was on my to do list, see Jacobus Deketh (which I made). Thanks for making it, Doc! :D Thine Antique Pen (talk) 18:59, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Small world!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:10, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Warning

It seems you're involved in an edit war on From Russia with Love (film); you've already reverted in excess of the maximum of three times. If you revert again, I will block you from editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.138.143.220 (talk) 18:42, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, I think you'll find I've reverted twice, and you don't have admin tools to block me, loser. On the contrary, I'm awaiting for the blocking of your IP sock accounts which I predict will come not too far from now.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 18:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Please stop making personal attacks on other editors. Calling an editor a "loser" is a personal attack. If you continue to make these personal attacks, you will be blocked from editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.175.37.110 (talk) 19:00, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

You work for an IBM store or something? That's a staggering number of computers you have!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:04, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

That IP is blocked now. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 19:08, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

In Your Own Sweet Way

I tried researching it, but alas it is not my cup of tea, ami. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll do what I can. But it may be one lump instead of two.... Martinevans123 (talk) 12:47, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Infobox Settlement 24414 to Infobox settlement 304294

I just converted 500 Template:Infobox Settlement to Template:Infobox settlement, left are 24414 says:

• http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=en&name=Template%3AInfobox+Settlement

For Template:Infobox settlement there are still only 304294 transclusions according to:

• http://toolserver.org/~jarry/templatecount/index.php?lang=en&name=Template%3AInfobox+settlement

But there may be some lag and maybe in a few hours the number jumps up by 500. NVanMinh (talk) 06:30, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

A new counter tool shows 335392 including redirects. NVanMinh (talk) 07:18, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Of course it also doesn't cover the thousands of settlements which should use infobox settlement but have wikiprojects opposing the changes.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 13:30, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, this is additional. But I hope we can at least consolidate the others, where no specialized code exists. See:

• Wikipedia:Database reports/Templates transcluded on the most pages

Due to the redirects, it is only "302168" and only in position 159. This is a misrepresentation. Persondata has 1 million. Where could settlement be...

Would you help to get rid of the redirects? At least all the upper case stuff should be deleted, so no one uses this ever again: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 December 18#Template:Infobox County. I have so many plans, but the opposition against streamlining without any benefit (what are the upper case versions for?) is surprising. NVanMinh (talk) 01:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

In Your Own Sweet Way

Forgive me if I'm a bit blind, Your Evilness, but I can't find any "Image" parameter in the song Infobox (Why isn't there any?), and putting the pic in other parameters would be inappropriate. So sorry... Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 11:39, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Done! Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 12:43, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you ...

I just wanted to drop by and say thank you for all your work. Congrats on that 1000 DYK thing too. I find it so very sad that some people see a need to belittle your efforts (apparently they think it's how they become some greater thing ... idk??). Anyway .. thanks Dr. It's appreciated. — Ched :  ?  17:31, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou Ched. And thankyou for everything you've done too mate.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 17:42, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Category:Compositions by key

... has been nominated for deletion Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_December_18#Category:Compositions_by_key. Tim! (talk) 20:42, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh and seasons greeting to you too Dr. Blofeld! Tim! (talk) 20:53, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Funny isn't it how often the most encyclopedically useful categories and articles end up at AFD prematurely.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:12, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Songs by key may be useful; my own knowledge of pop music is so woefully inadequate as to be not worth taking into consideration. Personally, I'd create it; yes, songs can be, and frequently are, transposed, but if the article deals with a particular version by a particular performer then I don't see why it couldn't be used. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:54, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Thanks Kevin. I dunno, maybe something like "bugger off from wikipedia. Nobody could give a monkey's right testicle about old jazz standards and villages in darkest Turkey." Although that might bring out the civility police and speed you away in the newest company police car, bought by Sue Gardner's personal secretary.... ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:19, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

An old jazz standard for you!

	Black, Brown and Beige (Part 2)
	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xUEoqY0LTI Best wishes, -- Dianna (talk) 02:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Cool, thanks!!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 07:55, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

DYK for List of awards and nominations received by Rekha

Orlady (talk) 03:13, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Infobox settlement - control panel

I made a control panel for us:

• Statistics
• Statistics for redirects

Two more days there will be the next WP DB report. NVanMinh (talk) 07:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Herfabach

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Kindleworm (talk) 00:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

That's not a legitimate deletion rationale. Most of our articles need expansion but meet notability requirements. Did you scout for sources? You should be assessing WP:Notability NOT how much content an article has. Notable subjects will always be notable, however short.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 09:42, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Capitalization of Vietnam provinces

You asked the one that lower cased against WP style and consensus to revert. Now there is the possibility to raise your voice at Talk:An Giang province#Requested move. Upper case is also supported by WP:VIETPLACE and the people at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Vietnamese). NVanMinh (talk) 05:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Nostradamus

I had a look at the Knut Boeser book, but it isn't and doesn't pretend to be, a factual work of scholarship (it's a novelisation of a film). I also checked out Edgar Leoni's large book. The problem seems to be that the bulk of Nostradamus literature concentrates primarily on the prophecies and interpretations of them. So far as the biography is concerned I reckon the article is probably factually OK and as full as the available material permits. However, I agree with you that the article is conspicuously short of citations for many of the statements made in it. The section on "Works" has six paragraphs and a single citation, and throughout the piece there are statements that are wholly unreferenced. It wouldn't, I think, get through FAC if submitted now. – Tim Riley (talk) 14:27, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Smashes tree in half, grabs turkey leg, gives the Vs to all the family, exits...

Merry Christmas Dr B! Have a good one. All together... "12 DYKs, 11 prodded articles, 10 mods a modding..." Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 15:06, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

For the barnstar

Thanks a lot. But mind me asking what specifically is it for? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:22, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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