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====[[Indiana Rangers]]====
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| hook = ... that the '''[[Indiana Rangers]]''' inspired the creation of the more famous [[Texas Ranger Division|Texas Rangers]]?
| creator = Bedford
| creator2 = Mingusboodle
| creator3 =
| creator4 =
| expander =
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*{{DYKmake|Indiana Rangers|Bedford}}
*{{DYKmake|Indiana Rangers|Mingusboodle}}
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  • DYK evaluation includes:
  • Length - The Article should contain at least 1,500 characters in main body text (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables). This is a mandatory minimum; in practice, articles having more than 1,500 characters of prose still may be rejected as too short, at the discretion of the selecting administrators.
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  • Date - The new article should be no more than five days old and the expanded article should be expanded at least fivefold with new text within the last five days.
  • Length
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  • Verification
  • Suggested facts (the 'hook') should be:
    1. interesting to draw in a variety of readers,
    2. short and concise (fewer than about 200 characters, including spaces),
    3. neutral,
    4. definite facts that are mentioned in the article, and
    5. always cited in the article with an inline citation.
  • Please note that hooks are subject without notice to copyediting as they move to the main page. The nature of the DYK process makes it impractical to consult users over every such edit. In particular, hooks will be shortened if they are deemed too long: the 200-character limit is an outside limit, not a recommended length. Also, watch the suggestions page to ensure that no issues have been raised about your hook, because if you do not respond to issues raised your hook may not be featured at all.
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  • Pictures: Pictures accompanying the DYK hook should be:
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    3. already in the article; and
    4. relevant to the article.
  • Sounds: Sounds accompanying the DYK hook should have similar qualities to pictures, and should be formatted using {{DYK Listen|filename.ogg|Brief description}}

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Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

  1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
  2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}
    To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)
    To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)
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Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below: 

{{subst:DYKsug
 | article   = Example
 | hook      = ... that this [[article]] is an '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''?
 | creator   = Jimbo Wales
 | expander  = 
 | nominator =
 | image     = Example.png
 | comment   =
}}
  • Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
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Symbols

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Symbol Code DYK Ready? Description
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Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem}} on the user's talk page, in case they do not notice if there is an issue.

Current status

The next update will be produced from queue 3.

There are five queues;

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
September 9 2 1
September 11 2
September 12 1
September 13 1
September 15 1 1
September 16 2
September 18 1
September 19 1 1
September 20 1
September 22 1 1
September 23 2 1
September 24 3 2
September 25 1 1
September 26 2
September 27 2
September 28 2
September 30 3 3
October 2 1
October 3 2
October 4 3 1
October 5 4 1
October 6 2
October 7 4 1
October 8 3 1
October 9 9 6
October 10 3
October 11 4 1
October 12 5 4
October 13 10 2
October 14 4 3
October 15 7 1
October 16 8 4
October 17 8 6
October 18 9 3
October 19 9 6
October 20 6 3
October 21 4 3
October 22 18 9
October 23 9 4
October 24 5 2
October 25 11 8
October 26 8 2
October 27 8 5
October 28 11 5
October 29 8 4
October 30 10 5
October 31 12 4
November 1 12 5
November 2 9 2
November 3 17 8
November 4 8 3
November 5 13 5
November 6 6 1
November 7 8
November 8 3
November 9
Total 309 129
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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on January 20

Fred Shaw Mayer

Template:DYKsuggestion at 03:47, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Cryptoheros septemfasciatus

Template:DYKsuggestion at 03:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

List of Miami Heat head coaches

Articles created/expanded on January 19

Indiana Rangers

Template:DYKsuggestion at 07:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


KSGF (AM)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 07:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Oslac of York

Template:DYKsuggestion at 05:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Jean Gagné

Template:DYKsuggestion at 03:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Desierto de los Leones National Park

Template:DYKsuggestion

  • The article has not been expanded enough, so far it's been expanded 3.1x. Also, the hook is implied but not explicitly stated (the article does not explicitly say the park has no lions). Shubinator (talk) 00:25, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peterson (company)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Charles Powell Hamilton

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Jaws (novel)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 22:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

G350.1-0.3

Template:DYKsuggestion at 21:31, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

  • A bit on the short side. I get 1682 characters. Also, the reference is to a forum. The forum says the European Space Agency is its source [1], so this can easily be strengthened by putting in the ESA source instead of the forum. Shubinator (talk) 23:01, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Stoller

Template:DYKsuggestion at 21:15, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

John Creed Moore

Template:DYKsuggestion Lordoliver Lord R. Oliver I His Lordship's Court 21:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NWA Hall of Fame

Template:DYKsuggestion at 20:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Article hasn't been expanded enough, only 3.5x now by my count. Unfortunately tables and lists don't count. Also, to me the hook was a bit confusing because I didn't know that the promotion refers to WWE. Rephrasing to due to his contract with WWE would help. Shubinator (talk) 00:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, I forgot to count. Your suggestion would work, but it makes no difference really since its not technically 5x.TRUCO 01:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There isn't really much more to add to the list in order to add 2,000 more characters of prose.--TRUCO 04:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BSA A7

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

MV Domala

Template:DYKsuggestion at 20:34, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Jagannatha Dasa

Template:DYKsuggestion at 18:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

McKinley Climatic Laboratory

Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Adrienne de La Fayette

Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

2009 Tour of California

Template:DYKsuggestion at 09:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Charles B. Moores

Template:DYKsuggestion at 08:51, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Devanahalli Fort

Template:DYKsuggestion at 08:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The Greatest Pharaohs

Template:DYKsuggestion at 07:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

  • 249 character hook. Also, the hook is not explicitly stated in the article. The article has been expanded much more than 5x though. Also (this has nothing to do with DYK), I'd recommend moving the "See also" (now called "More info") before the References section per WP:ALSO. Shubinator (talk) 02:51, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh gosh... I knew it's a lot more than 5x, but once I got started I wanted it to be worthy of Wiki and just kept going. I have moved the "See also" per your good advice. As for the hook... I was worried about that. I liked it, but in complete agreement with you, here's a shorter and more precise alternate:
Shubinator (talk) 03:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

George "Two Ton" Harris

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Prosperous Bay Plain

Template:DYKsuggestion at 04:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Maraimalai Adigal

Template:DYKsuggestion at 04:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Evelyn O'Rourke

Filipino Italian

Template:DYKsuggestion at 04:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 18

Charles B. Hoyt

Template:DYKsuggestion at 21:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


Cookeina

Template:DYKsuggestion at 11:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

This is the only example I've ever heard of a fungus being used as fish bait, thought that might warrant a DYK. Are any of the following more interesting to you? Sasata (talk) 16:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that Cookeina is a genus of cup fungus found in the tropics and subtropics?
ALT2 ... that Cookeina globosa, member of the fungal genus Cookeina, is known only from the Mbalmayo rain forest reserve in southern Cameroon?
ALT3 ... that Cookeina, a genus of tropical and subtropical cup fungi, have asci which mature simultaneously rather than in series?
In the original hook, does the offline source really mean a Malaysian town called "Peninsular"? It probably means Peninsular Malaysia (no comma, one link; it was once known as Malaya). The Peninsular link is about Spain. Art LaPella (talk) 02:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good catch, I've fixed the hook above. Thanks - Sasata (talk) 04:29, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph P. Williams

Template:DYKsuggestion at 02:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


Leonard Andrews and 1962 New York City newspaper strike

Template:DYKsuggestion at 02:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Both articles still need some cleanup before promotion. Strike article has repeated phrases ("Workers at the Daily News settled their issues, accepting raises of $8 per week in talks mediated by United States Secretary of Labor W. Willard Wirtz") and other grammar issues. - Dravecky (talk) 03:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for catching the near-duplicate sentences. I have reviewed both articles and I think all issues have been addressed. Please let me know if you have any other questions regarding either article. Alansohn (talk) 05:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bocuse d'Or

Template:DYKsuggestion at 01:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


Amagi class battlecruiser

Template:DYKsuggestion at 01:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

  • How about this:
"...that the Amagi class battlecruisers were to be canceled due to the Five-Power Treaty, but an exemption saved Akagi, which (after conversion to an aircraft carrier) took part in the attack on Pearl Harbor?"

Common Bottlenose Dolphin

Template:DYKsuggestion at 22:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Elliott Woods

Template:DYKsuggestion at 21:09, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Port of Livorno

Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Worm Hirsch Darre-Jenssen, Lauritz Jenssen, Hans Jørgen Darre-Jenssen

Template:DYKsuggestion at 18:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Temple of Human Passions

Template:DYKsuggestion at 18:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Bob Ward (American football)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 16:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

ALT: ... that college football player Bob Ward is the only player to have been selected by the Associated Press as a first-team All-American in both an offensive and defensive position? Strikehold (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Captivity of Mangalorean Catholics at Seringapatam

Template:DYKsuggestion at 15:57, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


St Luke's Church, Queen's Park, Brighton

Template:DYKsuggestion at 15:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Russell Wilson

Template:DYKsuggestion at 08:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Everyday I Write the Book

Template:DYKsuggestion at 15:00, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

In a statement like this, the date is always relevant.=--Wetman (talk)

Polhemus Memorial Clinic

Template:DYKsuggestion at 08:17, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

SS Benalbanach (1946)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 08:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Dance party

Template:DYKsuggestion at 07:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Noella Marcellino

Template:DYKsuggestion at 07:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Great Saltpetre Cave

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Sam (army dog)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Robert Leith-Macgregor

Template:DYKsuggestion Ironholds (talk) 03:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interstate 68

Template:DYKsuggestion Algorerhythms (talk) at 02:39, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Lewis (soldier)

Template:DYKsuggestion Ironholds (talk) 02:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leonard Goodwin

Template:DYKsuggestion Ironholds (talk) 01:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

T.I.'s Road To Redemption

Template:DYKsuggestion

  • Note: Would prefer using the first hook and not the ALTs as the first hook contains two pieces of information—March sentencing to prison and reality show. The ALTs only have information on the show, but I just added those hooks there incase. If for some reason the first hook has a problem that needs fixing, go with ALTs. — RyanCross (talk) 09:19, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Namsos Line

Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 17

Black president (United States)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 03:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Poppy seed

Template:DYKsuggestion at 02:16, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Francesco Paolo Varsallona

Template:DYKsuggestion at 16:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hryhorii Epik

Template:DYKsuggestion at 07:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

  • I got the obviously wrong impression from this hook that Epik continued to write after being executed. Can the information in the hook be re-organized? Maybe some tweaking of the tenses would help, too. --PFHLai (talk) 16:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That sure would be a good hook if true :) I added the years now so maybe it's clearer? Närking (talk) 20:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Candy cap

Template:DYKsuggestion at 00:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

NB:Moved to mainspace Jan 17th. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT 1: ... that the mushroom species Lactarius camphoratus (Candy cap) has been used as part of a pipe tobacco mix?

Alexander Scotland

Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:46, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Osulf I of Bamburgh

Template:DYKsuggestion at 15:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


UNIO High School, Satu Mare

Template:DYKsuggestion at 09:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Barack Obama's first 100 days

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

The article has been nominated for deletion. There is significant support for deletion. I am merely reporting it here. I am not stating an opinion in the AFD or DYK. Chergles (talk) 19:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of New York Islanders award winners

Template:DYKsuggestion at 02:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Singsaker Line

Template:DYKsuggestion at 00:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Wanderers F.C. Rugby Club

... that three former Wanderers players and Ireland rugby internationals – Tom Crean, Robert Johnston and Frederick Harvey – were all also awarded the Victoria Cross? Crean and Johnston served with the British Army during the Second Boer War while Harvey served with the Canadian Army during the First World War[1] … I know article has not been expanded 5x but I believe this fact is particularly noteworthy and unusual. It has to be more interesting then trivia about wrestlers, surely !!! Djln--Djln (talk) 00:00, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Very disappointed . Above answer is a lot of waffle. I really cannot be bothered reading reams and reams of unwritten rules ! Should’nt the criteria for this section be simply that fact might encourage people to read the articles further and that is cross checked as true. It is my opinion that DYK section has been extremely poor lately. I hav’nt been inspired to read an article in this section for months. And now I understand why. It has become the preserve of trainspotters, wrestling fans and pedantics ! I really do not see the point in trying to nominate anything. Djln --Djln (talk) 20:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry you feel that way, but the main problem isn't the newly renamed "Additional Rules" (formerly "Unwritten Rules"). It's the Main Page description "Did you know ... From Wikipedia's newest articles" (emphasis added), and our bureaucratic rules only clarify that this isn't a new article. Art LaPella (talk) 21:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Djln, quit complaining about how you "can't be bothered" to read the rules. First of all, the rule about expansion is prominently stated in the regular rules, not just the Additional Rules. Secondly, if you're too lazy to read the rules, then you really only have yourself to blame for not getting your article passed; people at DYK didn't force you to ignore the stnadards. Politizer talk/contribs 19:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The whole point is to expand an article or create a new one, thus it's one of Wikipedia's "newest article" as stated on the Main Page. If all you do is add some stuff and come up with a catchy hook, how is it any special or interesting? Grsz11 20:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

County Route 35 (Warren County, New York)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Tech Valley High School

Template:DYKsuggestion at 22:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)



List of Speed Grapher episodes

Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Tunku Abdul Majid

Template:DYKsuggestion at Mr Tan (talk) 16:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Helga Hernes

Template:DYKsuggestion at 15:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


Robert Millar (marketer)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 14:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


BSA Hornet

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 14:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Robert Elliott-Cooper


Marra Farm

Template:DYKsuggestion at 07:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Insert Subscriber Data

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Filipinos in the Netherlands

Template:DYKsuggestion at 03:46, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Lost Pig

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Pipe rolls

Template:DYKsuggestion at 20:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Great article, generally well sourced, but the rules do say that the hook fact must be directly followed by a reference in the text (I'm talking about the first hook here, which I prefer). Should be an easy fix. Lampman (talk) 14:38, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I prefer the first hook also, and I wasn't sure on the grammar of the second. I think either of the alternates Art gave are correct, but it's a very odd sentence. I'm fine with folks fixing it as they like. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 16

Tricholoma ustaloides

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Olive Cotton

Template:DYKsuggestion at 09:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

The fact is implied in the article. She only became a national "name" with a retrospective at the australian centre for photography in '85, and when the book came out in 1995. I'll summarise it in the introduction. She was "pioneer" because women in their own right were overlooked in the professions in that era but in a way she did make a career of it. Hope this makes sense, otherwise Xn4's alt is very helpful. Julia Rossi (talk) 23:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
PS if you use the first, please check my maths, I dated her relative anonymity from 1930s. Otherwise the second is cool. Thanks guys, Julia Rossi (talk) 23:17, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I added a comma to the hook to explain that better. Art LaPella (talk) 23:20, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much, Julia Rossi (talk) 00:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Magnolia Park (Hillsboro, Oregon)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 05:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Superstars of Dance

Template:DYKsuggestion at 01:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Note: Byte expansion between 1/12 and 1/16 is slightly less than 5x, however virtually all of the actual prose was written in this time period. --ThaddeusB (talk) 01:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Franklin B. Sprague

Template:DYKsuggestion at 21:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


Ein Avdat

Template:DYKsuggestion at 21:15, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Jonathan Battishill

Template:DYKsuggestion at 20:33, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Catch My Soul

Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

This is actually a composite hook, but all parts of it are sourced. I'm open to discussion. --Rodhullandemu 14:57, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vesicular film

Template:DYKsuggestion at 00:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


Harlington Wood Jr.

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

(alternate hook) ... that noted jurist Harlington Wood, Jr was not only an Abraham Lincoln buff, but actually portrayed him in a play that was favorably reviewed by the New York Times? — New article by Arcayne (talk). Self nom at Arcayne (cast a spell) 06:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gyromitra infula

Template:DYKsuggestion at 20:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

BSA Lightning Clubman

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 19:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Dalsenget fire

Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Fabio Barraclough

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Mark Donaldson

Template:DYKsuggestion at 16:15, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The article was initially created as a stub by Woody, tweaked by several others, and then I expanded it to meet DYK guidelines. The history probably needs a review to determine if anyone else should qualify for DYK credit. David Underdown (talk) 16:15, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hedda Berntsen, Ingrid Berntsen

Template:DYKsuggestion at Punkmorten (talk) 11:49, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why would one expect sisters to compete in the same events? Many siblings are polar-opposites of each others. Then, there are people like Venus and Serena Williams who avoid each other in most tourneys, except Grand Slams. --74.14.16.143 (talk) 02:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Port of Piraeus

Template:DYKsuggestion at 15:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

WMOB

Template:DYKsuggestion at 12:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Guro Fjellanger

Template:DYKsuggestion at 10:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't read Norwegian so I have to accept the reference in good faith but this claim seems awfully broad given the wide range of disabilities and the long history of Norway. Not one minister in all those year with colorblindness, dyslexia, or some other disability? I guess I'd feel better if either the scope of the hook were narrow or a Norwegian-fluent editor could assure me as to the contents of the source. - Dravecky (talk) 12:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The reference does say that, but as Dravecky says, it's a silly claim to make. Norwegian government ministries go back to 1814, and back then there was both less knowledge of, and less openness about disabilities, so than none of those ministers should have had any kind of disability is just a ridiculous claim. Just because a journalist says it, doesn't make it so. Of the top of my head I remember that Gudmund Hernes had dyslexia, which is considered a disability. I don't think this is a good hook. Lampman (talk) 14:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This source says she was the first to use crutches regularly at work, which sounds a bit more reasonable, though again I doubt the journalist has done the necessary research on 200 years of Norwegian government minsters. Lampman (talk) 14:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps she was the first paraplegic... Punkmorten (talk) 16:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking about it, I reckon she'd prefer that everyone doesn't focus on her disability all the time. Punkmorten (talk) 19:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT: ... that before entering politics, Guro Fjellanger studied to be a goldsmith?
That's better, I added a ref to support the hook fact. Lampman (talk) 14:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shire Brook

Template:DYKsuggestion at 10:15, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Reference to 900 years is here [2]. In the section Old Boundary: "... and for 900 years until 1967, was the boundary between Yorkshire and Derbyshire".

The Agnew Clinic

Template:DYKsuggestion at 03:15, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Improved the image and added an imagemap Victuallers (talk) 23:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
AProfessor D. Hayes AgnewDr. J. William WhiteDr. Joseph Leidy - taking pulseDr. Ellwood R. KirbyDr. Frederick H. MillikenThomas Eakins - The artistMary U. Clymer - NurseJ. Allison Scott, M.DCharles N. Davis, M.DJohn T. Carpenter, Jr., M.DJohn Bacon, M.DBenjamin Brooke, M.D.J. Howe Adams, M.DWilliam C. Posey, M.DHenry Toulmin, M.DCharles C. Fowler M.D.John S. Kulp, M.DAlfred Stengel, M.DClarence A. Butler, M.D.Joseph P. Tunis M.D.Frank R. Keefer, M.DNathan M. Baker, M.DGeorge S. Woodward M.D.John W. Thomas, M.DArthur Cleveland, M.DHerbert B. Carpenter, M.DGeorge D.Cross M.D.William Furness, 3rd, M.DWalter R. Lincoln, M.DHoward S. Anders, M.DOscar M. RichardsMinford LevisClick button to enlarge or use cursor to investigate
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Please suggest an improvement. As it says ...the painting "depicts" him being watched by the painter..this is quite unusual - usually painters do not depict themselves in paimtings. Can you suggest a way to make it less ambiguous? Victuallers (talk) 22:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's not usual but it happens as in Las Meninas which would make the alt hook okay (he was there and he painted it, and shows himself in the scene). It doesn't always follow an artist was present in order to paint a scene. Fwiw, Julia Rossi (talk) 06:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thx for noticing JR. The imagemap on Las Meninas was also my work (and that was a featured article). I have added "(use cursor)" to the hook ... do you think that is sufficient to get the imagemap noticed? Victuallers (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
To my eye yes it's fine as it is – don't know but if its really needed, would it take too many strokes to add "for names" or something like that? congratulations on the FA btw. Good work, Julia Rossi (talk) 22:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Winona

Template:DYKsuggestion 07:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Uses unreliable sources like imdb.Nrswanson (talk) 20:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but fiftiesweb.com isn't a reliable source either.Nrswanson (talk) 23:26, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is bygone tv a reliable source? Gives confirms it here[3]. Julia Rossi (talk) 05:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The New Phil Silvers Show

Template:DYKsuggestion 08:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Uses unreliable sources like imdb and tv.com.Nrswanson (talk) 20:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that IMDb is not inherently an unreliable source, as clarified in this debate. Furthermore, an entire article cannot be disqualified simply on the existence of an unreliable source, as long as the hook fact has proper sourcing. In this case the hook fact seems to be supported by a Penguin Books publication, which should earn it a . Second opinions welcome. Lampman (talk) 21:57, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Seems proper argument for hook's verifiability; being slain for that 2-edged sword, imdb is perhaps harsh for an entertainment subject. Julia Rossi (talk) 05:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 15

Santanichthys

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Length and >1500 characters verified. However, the article is woefully not inline-cited. These should be at the least cited in-line for ALT1 hook (which is more interesting): "most primitive known member of the Order Characiformes." and "in the order Characiformes, an order that includes the tetras." Furthermore, the reference to the piranha is not in the article. Jappalang (talk) 02:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Ingenuity Gap

Template:DYKsuggestion at 01:57, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


Wisconsin Highway 131

Template:DYKsuggestion at 20:15, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


John Parker (archbishop)

It's unclear in the hook if people remembered the food & drink while Parker was the archbishop and forgot after his successor took office, or people remembered the food & drink served during his time as the archbishop. I'm sure it's the latter, but the hook is a bit ambiguous. Is "while Archbishop of Tuam" associated with "remembered" or "served"? I don't know how to fix the hook, though. --74.14.16.33 (talk) 04:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I thought that was very clear: "Parker... was remembered", and "food and drink served"; "while Archbishop of Tuam" plainly refers to Parker, and not to a verb, as verbs can't become archbishops. But here is another hook which may be more interesting... Strawless (talk) 21:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnet Burns

Template:DYKsuggestion at 18:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Chesley Sullenberger

Template:DYKsuggestion at 13:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Dates, length, and ref check out but sorting the "make" credits for this one will be a bit of a nightmare. Do we want to give this article a day or two to settle down before promoting it? Given the backlog, even it were promoted right now it wouldn't appear on the home page for about a day and a half. Perhaps by then the article will have been filled out and the editing will start to settle down. - Dravecky (talk) 13:33, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I think it is a really good hook. Unfortunately, the DYK criteria says "Articles that have appeared on the main page's In the News section are not eligible" to be a DYK nom. Flight 1549 is currently featured on the In The News section. Therefore, I don't think we can have the double hook offered by Matthewedwards. I suggest we remove the Flight 1549 as a DYK nom in the alternative hook, but keep the rest of the alternative hook the same.Terrakyte (talk) 11:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I would hold this hook for as long as possible. People who are in the news may have more that is yet to be revealled. He may have hidden notable saintly (or otherwise) qualities which have yet to surface. Victuallers (talk) 12:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 3: ... that C.B. "Sully" Sullenberger, who successfully landed an Airbus A320 in the Hudson River in 2009, operates a safety consulting firm?

Note that there are perhaps hundreds of people who expanded the article. I will notify them for DYK credit if this passes. These people should get credit, not only Jrsamples.

Also, my suggested hook doesn't restate what everyone knows, i.e. that Sully landed the plane. It highlights that he has a safety consulting firm (so he might really be a safety expert who safely landed the plane in the water) Chergles (talk) 19:30, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Fathima Beevi

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The article says "the first Muslim woman to be appointed to any higher judiciary", not just any "first of any highest judiciary of a nation in Asia" as claimed in the hook. --74.14.16.33 (talk) 04:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hook: "first of any highest judiciary of a nation in Asia" <- Article: "She is the first woman judge of a Supreme Court of a nation in India and Asia." Jappalang (talk) 05:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I didn't expect every highest judiciary of nations in Asia is known as "Supreme Court" --74.14.16.33 (talk) 06:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

291 (Journal)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 04:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Perhaps I'm wrong, but "Journal" shouldn't be capitalized, right? If anyone has AWB or some other automated system running, please fix the link and everything pointing there. - Mgm|(talk) 13:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Vandiver

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Rampart Dam

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Port of Thessaloniki

Template:DYKsuggestion at 22:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. Mario1987 13:05, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go. Arsenikk (talk) 18:03, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Robbins (minister)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 21:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Yuill

Template:DYKsuggestion at 20:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


Tadeusz Kościuszko Monument, Kraków

Template:DYKsuggestion at 20:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Gråkallbanen (company)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Francis Mallison

Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:03, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


Meråker Line

Template:DYKsuggestion at 14:38, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Trondhjems Omnibus Aktieselskab

Template:DYKsuggestion at 14:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


Sunday Magazine Editors Association

Template:DYKsuggestion at 13:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


Indiana in the War of 1812, Kentucky in the War of 1812

Template:DYKsuggestion at 08:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Alpha-Parinaric acid

Template:DYKsuggestion at 08:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

not sure what the preferences are for spelling out a greek letter in this situation. The article name is Alpha-Parinaric acid, but the more common usage is to use α. Sasata (talk) 08:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is good (5x) expansion, but I suggest getting rid of the skeletal formula in the DYK (too small to discern properly), and rephrasing it as:
I also suggest copyediting the article for excessive use of passive voice. It wasn't an easy read. Xasodfuih (talk) 01:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Get Me a Lawyer

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Madhu church shelling

Template:DYKsuggestion at 04:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


George Caddy

Template:DYKsuggestion at 04:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

or,

... that Australian 1930s social history photographer George Caddy remained unknown until 2007?

::sorry abut the mess, but I just don't get it and still the four brackets. :/ Julia Rossi (talk) 04:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Julia Rossi (talk) 04:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lipari Landfill

Template:DYKsuggestion at 04:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Angie Debo

Template:DYKsuggestion at 02:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Thank you for catching the footnote pointer in the citation; I didn't intend that. I fixed the link to point to the beginning of the source article rather than the footnote. The same website has also has a pdf version of this article as printed (allowing the reader to go to the specific referenced page on Debo), but I don't think there is a way to link directly to the pdf.--Arxiloxos (talk) 22:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Brawl to End it All, The War to Settle the Score

Template:DYKsuggestion at 00:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Cyndi Lauper
Cyndi Lauper

Theriso revolt

Template:DYKsuggestion at 05:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Offline reference accepted on good faith. - K. Lásztocskatalk 14:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on January 14

Teedyuscung

Template:DYKsuggestion at 02:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Interesting article. However, there is no mention of the Walking Purchase being fraudulent in either Teedyuscung or Walking Purchase articles (land swindle, yes; under investigation, yes). I would simplify the hook by dropping the dangling arson comment. Maybe something like:
... that Teedyuscung, known as the King of the Delawares, lost much of his territory to colonial Pennsylvania in the Walking Purchase and later sought retribution for the massive land loss? -Mitico (talk) 16:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
the changes are fine with me. Thanks! Dincher (talk) 20:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

La Question

Template:DYKsuggestion at 22:56, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

La redlink est turnée bleue. :) --74.14.17.171 (talk) 15:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

History of the Han Dynasty

Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:24, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I just shortened it a bit; is it usable now?--Pericles of AthensTalk 10:05, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, no; it's 290 characters now. Click my User:Art LaPella/Long hook link for more explanation of our hook length rule. Art LaPella (talk) 02:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, my bad. To get it under 200 characters, I took out everything besides the mentioning of 200,000 cash coins, since that is the most relevant item in regards to the picture I posted to the right.--Pericles of AthensTalk 11:39, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not bad, but that's not the one that needs to be shortened; the sentence mentioning the Xiongnu Shanyu Huhanye and the gifts the Han court granted him is the one that needs to be shortened still, I believe.--Pericles of AthensTalk 23:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Schillinger v. United States

Template:DYKsuggestion at 15:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Los Carneros AVA

Template:DYKsuggestion at 07:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

My bad! I didn't realize there was an article on Napa County wine created. They both should link to the wine region rather than the political entity. So it is fixed now. 17:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Keene Fitzpatrick

Template:DYKsuggestion at 05:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

  • This hook is not accurate. Fitzpatrick was not the athletic director, and he earned less than a U.S. Senator. He was the athletic trainer and track coach, and it was he and two others combined who earned more than a Senator. The artcle is a work in process. I'll propose a hook in a couple days when the article is ready.Cbl62 (talk) 06:09, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Articles with {{construction}} should not be nominated. Be patient, Red tiger.--74.14.23.25 (talk) 17:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Entropa

A Greek squat toilet
A Greek squat toilet
  • ALT by Politizer ... that the controversial sculpture Entropa, unveiled in Brussels on January 13, 2009, depicts Bulgaria as a series of squat toilets (example pictured)? Lots of possible hooks here, I just used the Bulgaria example because it seems to be the one to have generated the most outcry. Also, being a current event, this article is being edited very heavily so we might need to add more people to the credits later, or whatever. at 00:47, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
  • The picture looks great, as long as someone can ensure that we can use it here (ie, that it doesn't count as a derivative work). If we are free to use it, someone will probably want to crop it so that Bulgaria will show up bigger (since DYK images get scaled down to 100x100px). Politizer talk/contribs 06:07, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Recently, at Commons, someone replied to my question and gave an opinion that the photo is a derivative work and as such cannot be used at Commons but well in (English) Wikipedia as fair use. However, I now read at the top of this page, that fair use should not appear at DYN. That's a pity, since then probably no part of the sculpture may be used, and without it there is probably not much to show and stay relevant (or perhaps a general picture of a squat toilet would do and then the rest is shown in the article itself?). Blahma (talk) 16:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, it sucks. You can't even show the picture on this page, whilst we're discussing it, despite other media using the pictures. The ridiculous thing is with the license you were using as well, is that it's the same for buildings built 70 years ago. Thankfully, everybody ignores the rule on buildings. Jolly Ω Janner 20:07, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, what needs to be done now, when it seems that we have identified a usable picture and also have the text? It would be nice to see thisis DYN soon. Blahma (talk) 15:33, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • There's not really anything we can do other than wait for someone to review it (which might take several days). I had hoped to get it on ITN so it would be more timely, but they don't seem to think it's notable enough (I disagree with them, but the only arguments I would have been able to bring up were WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). Politizer talk/contribs 18:46, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
length, refs, hook all check out. V. interesting story, shame it wasn't ITN. hamiltonstone (talk) 02:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Shame indeed. Oh well. Thanks for reviewing! Politizer talk/contribs 03:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is that for both of the hooks? If you haven't reviewed your own, then I don't mind reviewing it. Jolly Ω Janner 16:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Norman Lumsden

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:00, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Palamedes (romance)

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This one is better.--Cúchullain t/c 19:54, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Perry (hymnwriter)

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BSA Lightning

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 21:54, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clavulina cristata

Template:DYKsuggestion at 20:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, the α-parinaric acid article has a fact cool enough for its own DYK. My 1st multihooker will have to wait... Sasata (talk) 08:05, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


The Visitors (opera)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:56, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Edmund W. Wells

Template:DYKsuggestion at 18:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Harold Snyder

Template:DYKsuggestion at 18:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Removed "in 1985". Keeping it simple. BTW, when was Biocraft listed? You may want to check the article for typos. --74.14.23.25 (talk) 13:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC) I threw in a {CN}. Pls fix the year of listing on the NY exchange. --74.14.17.171 (talk) 15:35, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Typo was fixed. Company was founded in 1964 and listed on NYSE in 1985. Alansohn (talk) 19:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Melissa Anelli

Template:DYKsuggestion at Karanacs (talk) 17:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Samuel P. Moore

Template:DYKsuggestion at 12:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Barbara McLean

Template:DYKsuggestion at 11:37, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Article length verified, but the link appears to be faulty; I get a "Your session has timed out. Please start again." Also, the hook needs to be catchier and more concise; it well passes the 200 character limit for hooks at 256. Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 13:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Even though the hook is at 185, still needs to be thoroughly revised. Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 13:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
""revered" and "unusually influential" ?? Too PEACOCK-ish?
Article+hook+references check out. Cheers. Imperat§ r(Talk) 14:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lanny Kean

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Bank Emisyjny w Polsce

Template:DYKsuggestion at 19:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 13

Thomas D. Brock

Template:DYKsuggestion at 11:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Do you have some advice on what else to mention about him instead? This is what he is famous for, discovering this bacteria, it was a scientific breakthrough with far reaching ramifications particularly with PCR. The info in the hook is all covered in the Career section, that doesn't count? --MPerel 00:34, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I took the time to read the source [5], and it's indeed all mentioned in one article so I guess it's fine to promote this as DYK given that the article on the bacteria is unlikely to grow by 5x at this point. Let's give microbiology more coverage on the main page :) Xasodfuih (talk) 00:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The alt hook you have proposed leaves out the most important information. The DYK is 193 characters when you remove "that" and "(pictured)", two of the DYK-defined words that are not part of the DYK submission. When you leave "that" in, it is 198 chars. Adding "(pictured)", a parenthetical reference to the image that is not part of the informative content of the DYK, brings it to over 209 chars. The DYK can remain intact by removing the term "pictured" and if necessary, the image itself. It is acceptable to use the original DYK as the parenthetical is not technically part of the DYK and there is some flexibility here in regards to character count. The fact that the extremophile lives at greater than 70°C in hot springs at Yellowstone is essential information in the DYK, as this was the central thrust of Brock's scientific discovery; up until that point, most organisms were not thought to live anywhere on Earth at that temperature. And stating that this discovery was made in Yellowstone, a national park, is also important, as it was eventually used in private industry (PCR) by Kary Mullis, a subject of contention today by the NPS. Your alt hook effectively removes this overview of the most important facts related to Brock's discovery and glosses over it without regard to its necessity. I should also point out that you were recently involved in a dispute with me over character limits on Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Character_limit and you are not a neutral party in this DYK, so I ask that you recuse yourself here due to your conflict with me over character limits on the talk page. Viriditas (talk) 23:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well…there may be some pointiness going on, but, my dear co-submitter, you did sort of read the riot act over the rules not being kept rigidly enough! This is called karma. Let’s take our medicine and conform to the letter, no need for recusals. --MPerel 03:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Simple resolution, just take out the superfluous word "(pictured)" as shown in ALT2 above if it's a problem, and leave in the rest. There's no need to remove all the essential parts. : ) Or...even better yet, the following (198 chars) which ends up keeping all the essential parts, leaving in the word "(pictured)" and putting the biographical subject at the front of the sentence:

List of World Series of Poker Main Event Champions

Template:DYKsuggestion at 09:42, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

NSB Class 66

Template:DYKsuggestion at 14:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


Jastrzebie-Zdroj 1980 strikes

Laura Ann Kesling

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

WCW Hall of Fame

Template:DYKsuggestion at 22:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Aryeh Neier

Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Mountain Springs Hotel

Template:DYKsuggestion at 14:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Someone is bound to trip over this one all the important words in this hook start with ho-. Hostel, hotel, hospital. Using those in quick succession with the word hosts makes it a tongue twister. Perhaps an alternative phrasing that gives the same fact would be better. - Mgm|(talk) 22:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it was deliberate. Anyways, where's the hostel? A letter 's' is missing from the hook? --74.14.23.25 (talk) 17:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sarcoscypha coccinea

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Dennis MacDonald

Template:DYKsuggestion at 00:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

"If"? Per DYK rules, we should only use definite facts.

It's a hypothesis, a controversial one. but I could live with your wording.---Balloonman PoppaBalloonCSD Survey Results 00:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

City of Erie (sidewheeler), Tashmoo (sidewheeler)

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Secret Teaching Organization

Template:DYKsuggestion at 21:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Advance Motor Manufacturing Company

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 20:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Morgan, Jr.

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1998 Gator Bowl

Template:DYKsuggestion at 12:44, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

  • May I suggest that you include a reference to the team that actually won the game, since the hook is for an article about the game between the teams rather than one specifically about VT. For instance:
"... that, in the 1998 Gator Bowl, North Carolina beat Virginia Tech, 42–3, in what was that college football team's worst loss since a 45–0 shutout in 1983?"


Keith Larsen

Template:DYKsuggestion at 09:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

major (United Kingdom) (piped) might be a better link in the hook. David Underdown (talk) 15:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Uses unreliable sources like imdb.Nrswanson (talk) 02:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Danny McShain, Donn Lewin

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Brave Eagle

Template:DYKsuggestion at 09:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Uses unreliable sources like imdb.Nrswanson (talk) 02:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This has been discussed before; IMDb is not inherently unreliable, only when it comes to trivia. Anyway, the following hook is supported by The New York Times:
ALT:... that Brave Eagle, a 1955–1956 CBS western, was unusual for its time in taking the perspective of the Native American? Lampman (talk) 10:46, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P-19 radar

Template:DYKsuggestion at 01:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 12

Milan-Bologna high-speed railway line

Template:DYKsuggestion at 13:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Marcus Schrenker

Template:DYKsuggestion at 11:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

1998 Jesse pipeline explosion

Template:DYKsuggestion at 08:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Michelle Doherty


Anandibai

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Length, >1500 characters and sources verified. However, I suggest that the article be cleaned up, so that uses of "peshwa" is clearly defined; right now, the term is so freely thrown about that no one can discern if it is supposed to be a title, class, or race. Jappalang (talk) 01:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Philip Bartelme

Template:DYKsuggestion at 06:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Aachen

Template:DYKsuggestion at 00:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Philip De Witt Ginder

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Can two people both claim authorship for the same DYK? (This isn't a writer + nom.) Xasodfuih (talk) 01:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ménage problem

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Ames-Florida House

Template:DYKsuggestion at 03:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Length and dates okay but there is no source directly cited on the hook fact sentence. (Reference at end of paragraph is offline so I can't check to see if it applies directly to this sentence as well.) - Dravecky (talk) 08:36, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mikell Simpson

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Steve Burdick

  • The source says in its entirety, in referring to this episode of the series, "This 'Lifestories' is as much an indictment of commercial television for its skittishness in dealing with the AIDS crisis as it is a show about AIDS patients." If you can explain how that source does not support the hook, please do. Otherwise maybe random comments would be better left untyped. Otto4711 (talk) 01:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Jerome Murphy-O'Connor

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Carnegie Library, Runcorn

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Østfold Line

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I edited the above to read the doubtless intended "built for speeds"--Wetman (talk) 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clare Stevenson

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Peter Sutcliffe (race driver)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 10:20, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

  • The article is too short by at least 200 characters, the hook only partially represents his situation as a driver in 1967, and unless his parents were time travellers from the 1980s there is no way he was named for the serial killer (and likewise the 1946-born serial killer of the same name could not have been named for the driver). With expansion, a better hook, and a good reference then this could perhaps be saved. (The dates check out okay.) - Dravecky (talk) 12:46, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rephrased the hook. I'm not a native speaker of English and thought that namesake just means "has the same name" (as the German: Namensvetter), and does not claim "was named after". I stand corrected. Avoiding confusion and having a proper article to link to (eg from Günter Klass, see Jan 8 below) was my motivation to create the entry, listing at DYK should raise awareness not to link to the killer when the racer is meant. Expanded the article by well over 200 characters, too. -- Matthead  Discuß   13:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a hatnote to the serial killer's article that should help direct people looking for the race driver to the correct article. Length is good now but the hook still needs to be reworded for clarity. I can't think of one at this moment but perhaps some other enterprising editor can phrase this better. - Dravecky (talk) 20:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hook rephrased. -- Matthead  Discuß   04:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
a date of birth and disambiguation hatnote is not a great hook. His Jaguar and GT40 successes plus Ferrari works drives would be more interesting.Autodidactyl (talk) 13:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT HOOK: ... that British race driver Peter Sutcliffe was a Scuderia Ferrari factory driver in 1967?
ALT HOOK: ... that British sport car driver Peter Sutcliffe, who won the 'Grand Prix de Paris' and the 'Pietermaritzburg 3 hours', raced in Aston Martins, Jaguar D-Types, Shelby Cobra Daytonas, Ford GT40s and works Ferrari 330P4s? Autodidactyl (talk) 14:54, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, Grand Prix de Paris covers the equestrian event only. While he drove several interesting cars and races, I'd say that getting hired by the Ferrari factory team for Le Mans and the championship decider is the highlight of his (and almost any) career. That he seemingly retired after that kind of underlines this. And, as the serial killer seems to be very famous in the UK, I'd like to mention him for clarity in one form or the other. -- Matthead  Discuß   11:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Tightened/cleaned erroneous/pointless links.
It is surely inappropriate, unnecessary and somewhat tasteless to define a person/personality/hero of one generation via a shared name with a criminal of the next generation. He was a successful driver in his own right. Autodidactyl (talk) 15:39, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ps. To avoid PoV and Original research, we should rely on reputable sources rather than impute reasons for his retirement.
I've reworded the final sentences, just stating that he did not race anymore, plus a mention of the death toll of the time. As for the hook, I'm running out of ideas. How about mentioning that he entered only one Formula race? -- Matthead  Discuß   09:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin Barnes (American football)

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Howard Stevens

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List of Phoenix Coyotes head coaches

I was about to propose a hook about every (non-interim) Coyote coach before the Gretzky era had a winning record, based on Win% listed in the article. But then, how do you calculate Win%? The W's are less than half of GC's, so they should all have sub-.500 — losing! — records. Pls check your stats. Thx. --74.14.17.171 (talk) 16:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The alternate hook you suggested cannot be a hook because it is not on the prose. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 review me 07:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just fix the stats in the table. Whether you want the (corrected) info added into the prose is up to you. --74.13.129.143 (talk) 22:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why is the number 5 interesting? --74.14.17.171 (talk) 15:42, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing. What's interesting is that...holy ****. Laugh out loud, it has to be interesting doesn't it? Alternate hook down below.

ALT1 ... that Bob Francis is the only Phoenix Coyotes head coach to have won the Jack Adams Award, having won it in the 2001–02 NHL season? -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 review me 08:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you want the focus on Bob Francis, you may want to fix up his stats. Winning only 165 out of 390 games coached is a losing record and the Win% cannot be above .500 as shown in the table. --74.14.16.33 (talk) 03:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can see you're not familiar with hockey statistics. Read winning percentage. You will see that the Win% is the number of points divided the most possible points the coach can get. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 review me 04:12, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You may want to explain this in your article, perhaps as a footnote to your table, as I'm sure I am not the only one who doesn't understand this. (And frankly, it's wrong! I love the line "The name "winning percentage" is actually a misnomer..." in the Winning percentage article. Thanks for the link.) --74.14.16.33 (talk) 06:14, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The readers could just easily click on the wikilink, so doesn't really make a difference. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 review me 06:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Took me a while to find the link, but yes, it's there... --74.14.16.33 (talk) 06:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since I can't contact you in talk because of you using public computers, wouldn't it be nice if you make a account, and record the great things you have done for WP:DYK? -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 review me 09:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It would be very nice if the stats in the Bob Francis article were in table format instead of the far less attractive nowiki plain text dump format. - Dravecky (talk) 10:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The hook isn't about Bob Francis, it's about the List of Phoenix Coyotes head coaches. Also, all NHL player and goaltender article have their Career statistics in nowiki plain mode. Now, can we try to get this hook on T:DYK? -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 review me 18:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Scott Haley

Template:DYKsuggestion at 01:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

  • I was referring to this material, found in Ref#1: "During the next two years (1922-1923) he was engaged in the preparation of Bulletin 92, Gold placers of California, which encompassed all economic occurrences of alluvial gold deposits known in the entire state. This was the first comprehensive study of Tertiary fluvial (river) placers, dredge fields, and dry placers on a statewide basis." Rosiestep (talk) 16:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 11

Nigel Hamilton (author)

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Battle of Rarańcza

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Abdur Rahim (judge)

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William K. Jones

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Quiriguá

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International Congress of Americanists

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Kanthirava Narasaraja I

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:25, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

  • ALT1 (phrasing): ... that Kanthirava Narasaraja I was the first ruler in the Kingdom of Mysore to create symbols associated with Mysore royalty, such as the coins (Kanthiraya) that he named after himself? Jappalang (talk) 05:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rashid Johnson

Template:DYKsuggestion at 08:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

List of Orlando Magic head coaches

Template:DYKsuggestion at 01:20, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

  • If you want the attention on Brian Hill, pls check his stats in the table on this page. Winning 18 out of 36 playoff games is not going to get a Win% of anything but .500. Winning 191 out of 295 in the regular seasons should get .647, instead of .632 (unless my calculator is broken). While you're at it, pls check all the numbers in the table. Thx. --74.14.17.171 (talk) 16:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes; fixed. Gary King (talk) 05:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Diadema setosum

Template:DYKsuggestion at 22:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

initial wording in this one seems awkward, suggest using verbs instead, e.g.


Pretty Little Head (song)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 18:51, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

  • I don't know whether it counts as reliable or not, but it's been used in many other articles on Beatles songs (both as a group and solo). If I can find anything to replace it I will, but there seems to be silent in-project (WP:TB) consensus that it's reliable. Dendodge TalkContribs 10:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Using their FAs as their "best articles", The Beatles FAs were passed in 2004–5. The standards of FAC were much different then, the Dispatch listed above is a guideline for current FACs. Generally, the reliability of a site is determined by whether reliable sources have found the site to be reliable or an expert. Jappalang (talk) 22:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Japan–Netherlands relations

Template:DYKsuggestion at 18:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

  • In the image file name, the word "Japanese" is misspelled. So when promoting to Next Update, remember to give this a new caption (|Curious Japanese ... ), rather than allow "Japenese" to appear on the Main Page as a rollover caption. Art LaPella (talk) 22:18, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have put in a request to have the file renamed, but its one on a long list so it will take some time.--SelfQ (talk) 10:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why not upload another copy of the image file with the correct name, then request the old file with the wrong name be deleted? This way, we don't care when the Commons admins get around to fix things, DYK gets something to use right away. --74.14.16.33 (talk) 06:01, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder why I did not even think about doing that, done. File name corrected.--SelfQ (talk) 13:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rodney Landers

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SC 1880 Frankfurt

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T2000

Template:DYKsuggestion at 17:27, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Article has now been copyedited after your comment and I don't anything much that is wrong with it now. It is a B-class article, and also a GAN. I'd say it was quite all right to pass this, unless you have any other concerns? Chamal talk 12:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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