User talk:Mark Arsten

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Beachwood New Jersey

I reverted the edits prior to seeing your note. I can provide a legal document from the municipality as to its public domain status. I also find Alan's opinion to be closed minded and obstinate, and have actually discussed this with the town in question and they feel the history is an accurate and logical addition to their municipal page here and wish it permanently restored in original format. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.129.134 (talk) 04:30, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

• As I have been unable to get a response at the user's talk page, I will respond here. Sorry, MA, to clog up your talk page. Even if the material is public domain it's not encyclopedic. As I've suggested numerous times, the material that has been inserted into the article is filled with trivial minutiae and needs to be drastically cut down and summarized, with a focus on significant events in the borough's history. Even if every anecdote and story is true, and even if every member of the Beachwood Borough Council votes in favor of a resolution supporting the text as is, the material focuses excessively on details that simply do not belong in an encyclopedia article. If the choice is all or nothing, the article is far better off without this lengthy screed. As I have suggested, the far better compromise option is to review the material and summarize it in your own words, compressing out about 90% of the material that has been repeatedly dumped into the article. Alansohn (talk) 16:09, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, I agree with Alan. Even if this isn't copyvio, we need consensus to add it. Not everything in the public domain belongs in an encyclopedia article. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:53, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee Mailing List for Kiefer.Wolfowitz and Ironholds case

As you were the filing party, I feel that you should know this: due to several members of the Arbitration Committee recusing on the Kiefer.Wolfowitz and Ironholds case, the Committee is using an alternative mailing list at arbcom-en-blists.wikimedia.org. If you have any questions, please don't be hesitant to ask. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 11:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC)==

Matt Eliason

Hi - Could you copy the deleted Matt Eliason article to my userspace please? Thanks. MikeOtown (talk) 12:30, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, it's at User:MikeOtown/Matt Eliason now. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:52, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Coin Toss

Since you protected this can you please remove the image as it violates WP:NFCC#9. Thanks. Werieth (talk) 15:46, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Good catch, done. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:52, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Fylbecatulous. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Rosin Jolly, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Fylbecatulous talk 16:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rosin Jolly

Hello, Mark Arsten. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Rosin Jolly, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Rosin Jolly to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.

If you don't understand this message, you can leave a note on my talk page.

Thanks, Fylbecatulous talk 16:11, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Check the page history, I didn't write the article. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

"Faith Academy" Edit Rejection

I would like to attest the rejection of my edit on the article for "Faith Academy". I have sadly been so unfortunate as to forget to add citation for the sources I used. Here is a list of my sources:

Sources: http://www.4chan.org/ http://9gag.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.31.232.197 (talk) 17:46, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but 13chag isn't a reliable source. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:49, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes ArbCom case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Evidence. Please add your evidence by July 31, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, — ΛΧΣ²¹ 17:57, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Undelete Matt Kalinski

Could you please undelete the article Matt Kalinski. Since his discovery Trojan wave packet is notable he is notable. It does not matter if he is or not tied currently to academia. It is occasional that the discoverers become notable despite their discoveries were done under their PhD supervisors. Other examples are Ising model of Ernst Ising who discovered it in his PhD under Wilhelm Lenz and Rudolf Mössbauer who discovered his effect under Heinz Maier-Leibnitz. Also the fact that he was deported from the United States in 2007 has absolutely nothing to do for the lack of importance of his discovery worldwide. I only proves that US became totalitarian and unfriendly to immigrants and foreigners as a result of Islamic terrorism. Mattedia (talk) 09:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but there was a strong consensus at the Afd that Kalinski did not meet our guidelines. You'll have to apply at WP:DRV to try to get the deletion overturned. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:48, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

deletion of page 'Rosin Jolly'

Hey I would like to appeal the deletion of the 'Rosin Jolly' wiki page. Don't know why this page getting deleted. She is an actress and is a genuine one. Yes I admit that she is a beginner in the film industry but a famous one because of the reality show she doing.I would like to have a wiki page, will you please explain what to do next to keep this page alive. If you could review the appeal that would be great! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Otnaesehgrav (talk • contribs) 18:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Have you reviewed the WP:NACTOR guidelines? Can you provide evidence (in the form of reliable sources) that she meets them? Mark Arsten (talk) 20:24, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

kindly go through this references

• Active contestant of Malayalam TV reality show 'Malayalee House'aired on Surya TV check Rosin Jolly profile.
• Rosin Jolly emerges the charmer in the ‘Malayali House’
• malayalee house in news

Her Malayalm movies are track, hero, Annum Innum Ennum — Preceding unsigned comment added by Otnaesehgrav (talk • contribs) 04:19, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't think I will restore the page by myself. But you can still apply at WP:DRV to have the deletion overturned if you like. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:30, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

deletion of page Jesse Ronson

Hey I would like to appeal the deletion of the Jesse Ronson wiki page, I truly don't understand why this page is getting deleted he Mixed martial arts fighter and is a current MMA World Champion holding the AFC Lightweight Champion fighting for Aggression Fighting Championship he fights on network television on TSN2 in Canada and is a top ranked fighter in Canada he is ranked number 2 as the top lightweight in North American. what to do next to keep this page Active If you could review my appeal I would really appreciate it greatly. JMichael22 (talk) 19:10, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Have you reviewed the WP:NMMA guidelines? Can you provide evidence (in the form of reliable sources) that she meets them? Mark Arsten (talk) 20:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thank you for bringing a very necessary case to arbitration. Bearian (talk) 19:40, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Filing Arbcom cases isn't fun, but it's sometimes necessary. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:25, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

trayvon martin edit warring

User_talk:26oo is continuing to edit war on the exact same content you page protected the article for. Please address. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

A. you only have to tell me once. B. I've left another warning on his talk page. I'll watch the page to see if disruption continues. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:18, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

mea culpa mea culpa mea maxima culpa! I was getting database locked, please retry! I thought it wasn't getting posted, so I was retrying! abject apologies. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

No worries, it's kind of funny now that I think about it. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

• He just did it again, adding the same thing in that everyone on the talk page was against having in there, and then after I reverted him he put it back in yet again. Please stop him from adding that nonsense back in when everyone else is against having it. Dream Focus 17:14, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Just beat me to it! Added it twice more today! Gaijin42 (talk) 17:24, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Huh, I thought my warning to him yesterday would be enough. Well, he's blocked now. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:26, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Regarding vandalism

I recently posted a message on the wikipedia help desk, about nefarious editing of a user. Though the matter got resolved for the time being, yet now i see that my help plea has disappeared from the page. Could you please tell why it must have been deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anami6ka (talk • contribs) 07:39, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I think the messages are automatically removed after a few days. I very seldom visit the help desk though. When dealing with "nefarious" editing, you might consider posting to WP:ANI though. Usually that will get a quick response from admins. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:29, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Mark Arsten. You have new messages at Benfold's talk page.
Message added 18:17, 19 July 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Benfold (talk) 18:17, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Locked?

• Hi there, I noticed that you just blocked Michael Jadson (name is chosen probably because of its closeness to MJ), could you also LOCKED it? Don't want to risk letting the clown to go to other wikis to create more deliberate confusion. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 18:56, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Are you talking about globally locking the account? If so, I can't do that. You'd have to talk to a steward, I think. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:59, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

• Can you speak to one to lock it? As a SysOp, you carry more weight than I do. :) --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 19:04, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the global locking standards, so I don't think I'll get involved further. Sorry! Mark Arsten (talk) 19:05, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

• Oh alright, I'll just go find one to talk to. Wish me luck~! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 19:20, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Fate/stay night scenarios article -- put in my user space?

Hey, Mark. I just saw that this article was deleted back in April 2012: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fate/stay night scenarios (2nd nomination). I remember the article being useful to me, especially as someone who had never played the Fate/stay night visual novels, and had only watched the anime (still have not played any of the games). And I'm sure it was useful to others as well. I want to know if you wouldn't mind restoring this article, but in my user space (a subpage, of course). I may be able to create a decent article out of it (whenever I get around to doing that). Flyer22 (talk) 04:49, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I see a copy of it here, and there are very likely more WP:MIRROR copies, but I'm not sure how up-to-date it/they are. Flyer22 (talk) 04:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure, not a problem. I've just userfied it to User:Flyer22/Fate/stay night scenarios. Let me know if you need anything else. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:06, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Flyer22 (talk) 19:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Disruptive edits warning missuse

IP User 114.164.113.153 added a warning to my talk page that was missused, as he did with multiple rollbackers that got sucked into his edit war. Can this warning be removed?TRL (talk) 19:03, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you can remove any warnings from you page, actually, whether they're warranted or not. Especially so in this case. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for clarification. Did not to remove hastily. --TRL (talk) 19:07, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Italian resistance movement

Hi, the article right now contains some neo-Nazi bullshit inserted by Daufer (who is blocked) and it needs to be removed. It's the both claims credited to Frank Collin ("Frank Joseph"). Thanks. --Niemti (talk) 21:27, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Unprotected. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Block evasion

You recently blocked User: 114.164.113.153 for edit warring, he has recently been edit warring via IP hopping at Ghostface Killah, and like I suspected he was back at the page via User: 114.164.140.103 under the 24 hour block period. A range block seems to be appropriate. If you want proof see the talk page, as he responded there making it pretty clear that it is the same person. Thank you. STATic message me! 02:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

And now that Ghostface Killah was protected because his block evasion he is trolling my edits and reverting them for improper reasons. See [1] and [2]. I honestly do not know what to do and it is really pissing me off. STATic message me! 03:31, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, a range block might be the best thing to do here. I'd ask about it at ANI. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:23, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Do I really have to go through ANI for it? If he comes back again I might have to do that. STATic message me! 04:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

No, you don't have to. You could ask any active admin with expertise in range blocks. To be honest, I've never done one, so I probably can't be of any more help. I just figured ANI would be a good place to find a more knowledgeable admin. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Considering you are one, do you know any off the top of your head? Now that he is going to "114...." and "118...." I do not know if it is even possible. I am just crossing my fingers he gave up for the time being. (Watch me wake up tomorrow and every edit I made today been reverted by this vandal-.-). STATic message me! 04:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

I think the best thing to do would be to go to the list of active rangeblocks and ask some of the admins who have most recently imposed them (which I guess would be the bottom of the list/higher numbers). Mark Arsten (talk) 14:03, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

A user had mentioned in the James Pants AfD that the sockmaster behind the IP is banned user User:Cvlwr. If this is true we might have a bigger problem than I thought. But he is back at 118.6.203.31 so if you could give that a block too. STATic message me! 22:38, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

I just asked another admin about a rangeblock. In the meantime, I guess we'll just WP:RBI. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:11, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the help, I will drop a message here if he comes back again considering you understand the scenario. STATic message me! 23:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Catlvr6969

Don't know where else to put this, but the name stuck out at me, as sounding awfully familiar.

The account could be a tribute to an ancient (predating Wiki) USENET troll, generally known as cattlovrr or some variant. Roughly the same MO as this one. Insult anyone, everyone, everything, persisting indefinitely. Even mentioning the connection is probably as helpful as sticking beans up my nose, but if they weren't using a proxy; might be worth checking for sleepers?--R.S. Peale (talk) 05:27, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, that is very interesting, thanks for mentioning it. You'd have to talk to a checkuser though about the sleeper check, I can't do that. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

I mentioned you in...

I've mentioned your name a few times here, and at least once in a less than positive way, so it is only fair to point to the discussion.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I appreciate when people tell me that I'm being discussed. I also welcome feedback about my admin actions, and considering the negative feedback I've received about the block you mentioned, I have no plans to do anything like that again. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:14, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Frankly, I still don't get it. I barely know you (sorry, but that may be a good thing, I tend to be aware of the, uh, more colorful contributors). I do see you have an enviable unopposed RfA, which made the decision all the more inexplicable. I wish SG would stop hinting that you should apologize, it would be better if you did it without prompting. I think it is unfair to you that this incident may be the one thing I know about you, so I'll endeavor to pay more attention.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, I'll take this as a sign that I should do a better job explaining my actions in the future. I believe my record is pretty good overall, just a few mistakes in the past year, I think. Well, I hope we see each other around more often. I'm always surprised how many long-term users, and even admins, there are that I'm barely familiar with. Most of the time I do stay out of the spotlight, I'm mostly active at Afd and Rfpp lately--not much controversy there. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:51, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

That may explain it. While I agree with the importance of AfD and RfPP, I've decided to allocate my admin work to CP issues. Every once in a while, I feel guilty about not doing more at AfD or RfPP, and pop in, but I haven't done much there.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 17:10, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

That's good though, CP is a very valuable area! Mark Arsten (talk) 17:13, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

(watching) If you don't know another editor, you may want to find out why he is precious ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:35, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda, I appreciate it :) Mark Arsten (talk) 17:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Azerbaijani people

Hi Mark, 'Oghuz Turks', 'Ethnic groups in the Middle East', 'West Asian people' category must be removed from Azerbaijanis page.There are already 'Turkic peoples' category in tHe page for Oghuz Turkic and I will add 'Ethnic groups in the Middle' East to 'Iranian Azerbaijanis page',because Northern Azerbaijan(Azerbaijan Republic) is not Middle East region,Caucasus is Eurasian. Hami232 (talk) 22:45, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't know much about this subject, so I'm afraid I can't be of any more help. I suggest you try to form a consensus about the issue on the article's talk page. Or perhaps pursue dispute resolution (WP:DR). Mark Arsten (talk) 17:50, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Savannah Smith Boucher

Given the nature of the situation (persistent blanking by a person who was claiming "identity theft" on behalf of a purported relative), I'm uncertain as to whether I'd feel comfortable unprotecting it at this time. I won't object if you or another administrator feels comfortable doing so, but I don't think I'm at the point of being willing to do the deed myself yet. Bearcat (talk) 19:13, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Interesting, I didn't realize that was why it was protected. I see now that a user was making that comment on a couple Boucher articles. I vaguely remember seeing something about this now. Odd situation, but I guess I won't pursue it further if it might be controversial. Thanks for the help. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Virginia Heffernan

I'm having trouble with this page. I know you locked it a couple of days ago because of edit warring, so I'm hoping you can give me some advice. This writer's piece on Creationism is philosophical. Many editors (and many commenters and many readers) have interpreted the piece very literally. But there have been some who've come to her defense (and I've cited them) and elaborated on the issue by saying it was controversial and linking to those who defended her and those who criticized her. I've also added biographical information, which has been deleted twice. I feel like this is unfair to this writer, and I know I seem outnumbered, but this is wrong. What can I do? --bsnyd 00:03, 23 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Briannasnyder83 (talk • contribs)

Hmm, there are a couple places you could go to get more feedback on the issue. There's the biographies noticeboard, WP:BLPN, where they watch out for unfair coverage of living people. I'd try that first. There's also the dispute noticeboard, WP:DRN, which could also be helpful. Good luck, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks protecting Mujaddid

Dear Mark, thank you for protecting the page Mujaddid against anti-ahmadiyya abuses/vandalism. BTW I am sure you would need to extend the protection beyond 29 July. The section had been under abuse since 2009 (if you would go through the talk page. Be well. --Drali1954 (talk) 10:05, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, let me know if disruption continues after the protection expires and I'll re-add the protection for a much longer period. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:33, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Blocking over BBC page

Mark, I really think you're 3rr blocking of me was not fair. I followed all required steps, In so much as I posted supporting evidence and attempted to seek a resolution by posting on the talk page of the user in question. As such it's unfair that despite me following the requested steps, you blocked me from the site for a 24 hour period, yet took no action against the other user. If Wikipedia is to continue to be the success that it has been to date, abusing people making a minor edit to a page (With supporting evidence) that is both proportionate, in context and not offensive is unfair. Ultimately I do understand that you wish to to protect and preserve wikipedia as a source of information for future users, but you don't achieve this by becoming the thought police and attempting to edit out mild criticism of an organisation or individual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.155.125 (talk) 18:28, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

• Hi IP, thanks for your comments. In this case, you were blocked because you violated the "three revert rule" (WP:3RR). None of the other editors involved broke this rule. You were blocked for edit warring, not for the content of your insertions. Even when an editor is inserting valuable information, they may still be blocked for edit warring if they keep reverting and refuse to discuss disagreements. In this case, a user attempted to convince you to discuss the matter instead of continually reverting, and your failure to do so resulted in the block. In the future, please discuss disagreements on talk pages instead of continually reverting, and you won't be blocked in the future. Let me know if you have any more questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Mark, thanks for taking the time to come back. I wanted to just make a couple of points, firstly I reverted an auto change (bot) and sent through a note explaining why. Then then one user TRLOVEJOY, decided to revert me. I went onto his talk page and commented, did not revert again. He then came back and I provided evidence, I then reverted it as it was obvious my point was supported. He then reverted me, I went onto the admin forum he created and commented about the reversion. But In fact he did not move the chat across to the article talk page, until after he had me blocked. So as such his version of events was both dishonest and unfair, I attempted to discuss this but he simply undertook to lie and have me blocked. I feel I did all I could to engage and the edit war was one sided, i.e the other side! How do I complain about this action? Wikipedia should not be abused in such a way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.155.125 (talk) 18:59, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Have you tried talking to the user? You might be able to reach an understanding with him. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:41, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

I wrote on his talk page at the time, he then without responding basically had me blocked! He then moved the discussion onto the article talk page after he had you block me. So basically, I abide by the rules and try to discuss, he keeps reverting me and then I get blocked! I understand you have a task to undertake, but he did mislead you and is just as guilty as I am. So as such I would ask that you give him a warning also, as otherwise it's just simply allowing the system to be abused. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.155.125 (talk) 20:20, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Texas Hold'em King

Why was this page considered biased? It simply stated facts about the release date and platforms it is on.

Thanks and let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by James.Magmic (talk • contribs) 18:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, it seemed to me like you were using promotional language to try to get people to buy the product. Like when you wrote:

• Enjoy a tight, fast paced and immersive 6 player table experience 
• Get free chips every day to keep the fun flowing! Create you own table and invite buddies with BBM or NFC! 

In encyclopedia articles about products, we try to neutrally state the facts about something. Using "Enjoy a ..." or "Create your own ..." and using exclamation points seems like you're trying to advertise this. Stating facts is ok, as long as you use reliable sources (WP:RS). You may also wish to review our conflict of interest guidelines (WP:COI). Let me know if you have any more questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

On the dispute

Hello,

Last Sunday you locked the page Azerbaijani People and said to try to discuss it on the talk page. The 3 days are almost over now, but there has been almost no discussion going on the talk page; I only got a single response by one user. And the two users whom I reported didn't even participate at all. The dispute has actually been going on for over a month with a few different users, but the same problem keeps on occurring after every report. This is that halfway the discussion the other party ceases to discuss (like now) or does not go against all my arguments, whether it is on the talk page or on the DRN. I think it would therefore be fair if the description would be changed to the original for now. And that the other party should start a discussion and defend himself if they disagree with the change, instead that I have to continuously do it while the other party ceases the discussion half way. Or perhaps you have other advice to give me? Thank you. Verdia25 (talk) 11:20, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

That's a tough situation. But if someone is refusing to discuss the matter and keeps on disrupting the article, you could ask for a topic ban or other sanctions for that user at WP:ANI. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:59, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Free!

Hello. It's been slightly more than two weeks since you semi-protected Free! - Iwatobi Swim Club for three month. Since it's been two weeks, would it be a good idea to (at least temporarily) downgrade it to pending changes at this point, or when the one-month mark has passsed? If vandalism picks up, the article can always be re-protected. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 23:50, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've downgraded the protection to pending changes. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Peru National Merit Award

		The Peru Barnstar of National Merit
		Per the guidelines of Wikiproject Peru, and for the major copy-editing work done at the articles Pisco Sour and Peru national football team, you are hereby awarded Peru's National Merit Barnstar. Congratulations!--MarshalN20 | Talk 01:23, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Although Peru's nft candidacy has not yet received much support votes as of this message, your contributions to it will certainly be of great help. Thank you, Mark.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 01:23, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for the award! Mark Arsten (talk) 01:24, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

re: Talk:Tea Party movement/Moderated discussion

If you'll recall, a week ago you declined to block Xenophrenic or issue a topic ban, after he violated 1RR article probation and the page was fully protected by ArbCom member SilkTork. Instead, you issued a final warning.

Since then, Xenophrenic has been the lone dissenting "vote" on two different editing proposals (the "vote" is either 4-1 or 5-1 on both), and we now have a stalemate. We have a non-admin moderator who has recognized consensus on one of the edits. If Xenophrenic had been topic-banned a week ago, the "vote" would be unanimous and this would not be happening. The page is affected by community sanctions and you, as an admin, are authorized to issue blocks and topic bans as you see fit.

Please visit the Moderated Discussion page linked in this section header, and review Xenophrenic's recent contributions to the discussion. Then please take whatever action you feel is appropriate. When you gave him a final warning, you trusted him to accept that final warning in good faith, and control his behavior. Our Moderator, C678 ("Cyberpower"), could certainly use your help. regards ... Phoenix and Winslow (talk) 20:03, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to check it out tomorrow. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:47, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Naik Foundation

Hi. about an year or sometime ago, we created an article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naik_Foundation) and it was deleted due to lack of reference - this article was moderated by yourself. Currently we have got more reference in the internet and we believe that this article would be more significant then the last time. Please would you have a look at it approve?

• http://www.mid-day.com/news/2013/apr/220413-19000-teachers-to-benefit-from-vipassana-course.htm
• http://www.amchaghar.org/news.html
• http://anandwan.in/pdf/mss-quarterly-apr10.pdf
• http://ngo.india.gov.in/ngo/naikmiddaymeal.pdf
• http://164.100.47.5:8080/members/Website/quest.asp?qref=159234
• http://mdm.nic.in/Files/Review/Reports/2011/Final%20Report%20Review%20Mission-Maharastra.pdf
• http://facebook.com/naikfoundation.org
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkuKHwetV6Q

Ramsubhash123 tc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.75.83.63 (talk) 07:19, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, to have the article restored, you'll have to apply at WP:DRV. Make sure you provide solid references for them (WP:RS). Mark Arsten (talk) 15:10, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Ten Minute Podcast

Hey, you were the admin that deleted Ten Minute Podcast after an AfD was held. I was going to start an article on it today after discovering several reviews and awards covering the subject but noticed it was previously deleted. Could you restore that copy to my userspace so as to keep previous contributions in place? Beerest355 Talk 02:34, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've userfied it for you. It's now located at User:Beerest355/Ten Minute Podcast. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:35, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Negative national stereotypes in CoH2

Why did you deleted all information about uproar, evoked by the game in Russia and other countries? What does it mean "delete; talk page discussion first" - if there is a talk page discussion? This information was about point of view, expressed in review articles, popular blogs and petitions with thousands of supporters!

You are mistaken, I didn't delete any information from the article. I simply locked the article so it couldn't be edited for a few days to give everyone a chance to weigh in on the changes. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:07, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the full protect. Azarov repeated his "why-did-you-delete-this-wahwahwah" rant on my talk page. Some people don't get it and they think a full protect is overboard.--Eaglestorm (talk) 12:09, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, dear Mark Arsten, sorry for misunderstanding. Now observation of controversy in the game looks objective and make me feel proud for Wikipedia.Konstantin.V.Azarov (talk) 09:07, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

HAES

"Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. Examples of typical vandalism are adding irrelevant obscenities and crude humor to a page, illegitimately blanking pages, and inserting obvious nonsense into a page."

The edit made to the Healthy At Every Size page was: "Note: This Wikipedia entry contains only biased information in favor of HAES, which is a program preaching that it's "healthy" to weigh anything, including in excess of 500lbs. This is by no means true. Please consult your doctor on issues of weight, not internet groups dedicated to making everyone feel good regardless of the truth."

This edit did not compromise the integrity of Wikipedia, add irrelevant obscenities or crude humor, blank a page, and was not nonsense. Whether you like and agree with me, what I added to the page does not fit the definition of vandalism given. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zshadez (talk • contribs) 01:26, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, thanks for your concern about our accuracy. I've deleted most of the page in question after you brought my attention to it. Usually when I see people add disclaimers to articles like "Warning: This article is wrong". I treat it as vandalism, but in this case you may have been right. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Sgt Reckless

Did you delete this page that I created? Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 01:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Just briefly, for a WP:HISTORYMERGE. It's history should now be viewable at Sergeant Reckless, where it redirects to. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:47, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Please restore it. A page should not be deleted without discussion & using the proper procedure. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 01:53, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

You misunderstand me: the page hasn't been deleted. It has simply been moved from Sgt Reckless to Sergeant Reckless. Everything else should still be there. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:55, 28 July 2013 (UTC)If it

If it was moved, then why doesn't it list my edit as the first one, when I launched the article? Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 01:59, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Your creation of the article is still there, just not the first edit anymore. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:01, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Because it was deleted, not moved. The Sergeant Reckless in that article was for a different horse. Please restore my original Sgt Reckless article. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 02:07, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, then I may have really messed things up. User:Froggerlaura or User:PumpkinSky, can you confirm that the two horses are different? Mark Arsten (talk) 02:16, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

It's the same horse. But FieldMarine did create the first article. The draft in my sandbox was an expansion. When the article history was moved from my sandbox, it included every edit I made to the sandbox since 2010, which aren't even about this article. Froggerlaura ^ribbit 02:34, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, then that definitely was my mistake. I think I can move some of those back to your userspace if you want. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:36, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Sergeant Reckless has nothing to do with British racing, what are you doing FM? PumpkinSky talk 02:43, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Exactly - that is why I placed the info on the warhorse Sgt. Reckless back to the orginal article created in 2012. Sgt Reckless is the name of the warhorse, not Sergeant Reckless, which is a race horse. Semper fi! FieldMarine (talk) 02:51, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

You do realize you just contradicted yourself? Sergeant Reckless, the version you put in place, doesn't even mention "reckless", it's a racing article. And prove it's Sgt. not Sergeant.PumpkinSky talk 02:53, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

The racehorse is far less notable and both should be named properly. I suggest a DAB: Sergeant Reckless may refer to: Sergeant Reckless (racehorse) or Sergeant Recklesws (warhorse). Will that work? Montanabw^(talk) 02:57, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

What Reckless racehorse? The version FM put in is a racing article and doesn't mention the word "reckless" PumpkinSky talk 02:59, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

It really looks like your version "Sgt Reckless" and the "Sergeant Reckless" PumpkinSky and Froggerlaura were writing about are the same horse. The only question now would be which title is best for the article. That should be solved by a move request though. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:09, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

The article I wrote in 2012 was on Sgt Reckless, the USMC warhorse. Her name is Sgt. Reckless according to the artcles I have in the Leatherneck Magazine. Just look on the name printed on the horse turnout in the picture. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 03:13, 28 July 2013 (UTC) (AKA Jarhead)

It is the same horse, but I can't even find a British horse of that name and why would racing results be put in that doesn't even mention a reckless? That I simply do not understand. If there were a notable enough horse of that name, Montanabw's idea would make sense. As for Sgt. vs Sergeant, Sgt. is just an abbreviation and should be spelled out. She officially held the rank and the rank is Sergeant, not Sgt. Actually, since she was promoted to Staff Sergeant....but no one calls her that. Let's say you're a Gunny. You're really a Gunnery Sergeant, not a GySgt. And I still want to know what the British racing has to do with all this.PumpkinSky talk 03:17, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

I think some of the confusion stems from when the history of my sandbox overwrote the history of the Sgt reckless article when it was moved (previously made the City and Suburban article in that sandbox). Mark Arsten has since corrected the history. I'm fine with Reckless (warhorse). Froggerlaura ^ribbit 15:42, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

You have a point about the abbreviation. However, I have always seen it as Sgt Reckless in the articles written about the warhorse, not Sergeant. As far as the British racing piece, I suggest you ask the editor who created the later Sergeant Reckless article (before the Sgt Reckless info was moved into the Sergeant Reckless article). Not sure who did that. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 03:44, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, I think Reckless (horse) might be the most accurate title. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:12, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

The British horse is a National Hunt horse that has only won 2 minor races [3]. That horse is formally called "Sgt Reckless". So if the racehorse becomes notable, the Sgt Reckless page would have to be disambiguated anyway. Froggerlaura ^ribbit 05:49, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Before I discovered Frogger's version, my draft was called "Reckless (warhorse)". I just used the name she used. Articles probably abbreviate it because that's what people normally do, abbreviate ranks....they'll use BySgt vice Gunnery Sergeant, Capt vice Captain, etc. Also, since the minor racehorse is formally Sgt., he should get that name if he's ever notable. I'm ok with "Reckless (warhorse)" if other's are. Glad we're talking this out. PumpkinSky talk 10:28, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Can you please protect this page: Penn Jillette?

Vandalism happening from several IPs, cluebot isn't picking up on all of it. Thanks! DJAMP4444 (talk) 02:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done Mark Arsten (talk) 04:13, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

re: Multifactor authentication page

The page "Multifactor authentication" has had a section related to virtual token forms of MFA for several years. MrOllie and Vipersnake have been engaged in a "promotion by censorship" campaign against this page for more than a year, attempting to censor pertinent forms of multifactor authentication under the guise of "not properly sourced" or "promotional". The specific section they object to, referencing a type of MFA called virtual token MFA, does not refer to any specific vendor, nor does it promote any specific vendor product. There are numerous vendors who describe their approach to MFA as "virtual token", just as there are many vendors offering "soft token" and "hardware token" forms of MFA. The section is properly sourced and pertinent to this page. This is not anything new. The editors of this page have included virtual token forms of MFA on this page for years. I suspect that Mr. Ollie and/or Vipersnake have their own agenda for wishing to censor other forms of MFA. Perhaps they support vendors who do not happen to offer virtual token forms of MFA? In any case, the information is pertinent to this page, properly sourced, and does not promote any specific vendor nor product. Please remove the block and revert this content. Thank you. MesaBoy77 (talk) 04:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, that's an interesting situation. Maybe you could go to WP:3O for advice? Or maybe try WP:NPOVN? Mark Arsten (talk) 20:11, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

You turned a blind eye to my use of rollback in edit warring against a fresh, undomesticated, aggressive user. I expected so. Do you recommend me to comply with the policy in such circumstances? Did I make a wrong choice? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:02, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, I hadn't noticed that you were using rollback. It's always best to use an edit summary unless it's blatantly obvious vandalism though. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:08, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the intervention on the second amendment article

It's getting a lot ridiculous lately. Granted, the article lede is a mess and the entire article could use a re-write, but that is what sandboxes are for, as I suggested in the talk page. The only thing edit warring does is make me wish for deletion of the entire mess!Wzrd1 (talk) 20:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Ivan Tomičić

Hi!

It's about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Tomi%C4%8Di%C4%87 Tomičić has made his debut in a fully pro league recently (proof: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/hnk-hajduk-split_hnk-rijeka/index/spielbericht_2326127.html )... so please reinstate the article and I'll update it :).

Zlopseto (talk) 20:59, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Ok, done. As this was a deletion by WP:PROD it could automatically be restored. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:28, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Second Amendment to the United States Constitution

Greetings, Mark Arsten. Thanks for protecting Second Amendment to the United States Constitution for three days. At this point that's a good idea. Note however that the article is already undergoing Dispute Resolution, at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. (If you reply here, I will see what you say.) — Mudwater ^(Talk) 21:10, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Page protection

Hey again Mark, I noticed you recently protected Future and I am wondering why you only protected it for a week, when the last protection was for a month, and that only ended a week or so ago. A view of the page history shows how much vandalism this BLP sees, and it would be better to have a longer term protection. STATic message me! 17:24, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Good catch, fixed. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! STATic message me! 17:27, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Reckless

Mark, an FYI that I nominated Sergeant Reckless for DYK on behalf of its lead editors. Because it is a 5x expansion moved from a sandbox, the edit history may not be clear that it's less than five days old. You may want to watchlist the DYK nom Template:Did you know nominations/Sergeant Reckless and alert the reviewer to the admin work you did with the move, the name issue and the merge. Thanks Montanabw^(talk) 00:02, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

One can always count on a horse-aholic!PumpkinSky talk 00:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Not me! Neigh! Montanabw^(talk) 18:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Italian resistance movement

Hi, any chance you could protect the above - you previously protected, then un-protected the article and it now appears that it is having the same problems again. Thanks Denisarona (talk) 05:47, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

It looks like the user disrupting the article has been blocked, so protection is probably not necessary here. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

American Masters spam

Hi Mark, I noticed that you recently blocked user American Masters for having an unsuitable name. The user was also posting external links to American Masters articles, for example, this one about Charlie Parker. Another user, AMintern has shown up and is posting American Masters links again. Here's one for Charlie Parker. PBS spam and sockpuppetry? I've never heard of such a thing! Seriously though, should these edits be reverted? It's PBS. We allow external links to IMDb and that's a commercial site. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, that is interesting. I think I blocked that account on a username violation, the spam issue is more tricky since the links are somewhat useful. First thing to do though would be to advise them of the WP:COI rules, at least. I'll think about this. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:21, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

It's so weird, because it's PBS! They've given so much! </whine> Please let me know if I can do anything to help. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:28, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

So I guess this means my taxes are funding sockpuppetry now :) Mark Arsten (talk) 18:33, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

I guess they got them all: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AmMasters. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh wow. Well, I guess that's that. A pleasure doing business with you, sir! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:48, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Same here, let me know if you run into any similar users in the future. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:55, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Heads up

One of your AfD closes is up for DRV here. All the best—S Marshall T/C 18:29, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, looks like he forgot to notify me. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:36, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I having issues, wasn't showing up properly.92.18.33.11 (talk) 21:24, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

No prob. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:54, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Jade Bailey

Just to let you know, I didn't see much wrong with your actions. If anything it was probably brave to redirect as most wanted to delete. However general notability i.e something with secondary sources apparently triumphs any project notability guidelines (trust me I've tried to remove things and have failed because of this general nota trumping everything else). But I don't blame you, that's the short comings of others and as you say first week en all probably thought here's a straight forward one. So if I were you I wouldn't take comments personally on the AFD, as my intention is not against you, if anyone suggests that again. It's against the two users who seem to think that 4 appearances for the biggest women's team and an FA Cup win is insufficient for an article and are insisting that we have this process which we shouldn't have as you redirected it rather than deleted it.92.18.33.11 (talk) 21:22, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, no offense taken. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:54, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Sergeant Reckless work

I am now done with my major work on this article. I really enjoyed it and hope you do too. PumpkinSky talk 01:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Glad to hear that you enjoyed it! Good work on that, impressive transformation. Might be a good article candidate soon? Mark Arsten (talk) 03:54, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. You think it's that good?PumpkinSky talk 09:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I think it would have a good shot at passing the GA criteria. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:29, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Christopher Worley

Hello, I'm Christopher Worley. My page of mine was deleted by you and i was wondering if you can help me out so that it doesn't get deleted again. I really want this page so that people can look me up. All I want is for people to find what they want to know about me. I also wanted to add my YouTube content in it like Toby Turner and Shane Dawson. Can you please help me?

Hi, the best way to make sure that your article is not deleted is to ensure that you meet our notability guidelines (WP:N). If you do, you'll have to add reliable sources to the article to demonstrate that (WP:RS). You might not be notable by our definition though, so in that case you'll have to wait a while to recreate the article (WP:TOOSOON). Also note that we generally advise against writing an article about oneself (WP:COI). Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:54, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the WP:RELIST

Discussion on the issue is most welcome. Eventually the realities of digital look-alikes are going to need to be taken into serious consideration and account in legal science and legistlation must be put in place to minimize negative effects. I edit wikipedia to inform people of digital look-alikes so the longer I can keep the deletionist tendencies of the deletionists at bay it's all for good. Am I supposed to or supposed to not to vote keep on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Digital look-alike i.e. do I look good or stupid respectively if I go an vote 'keep' and write elaborate reasonings. Cheers. --Redress perhaps (talk) 12:00, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi, you are free to !vote on the matter. It's good to note that you were the creator in your comment. You will look good if you offer a well reasoned argument supported by reliable sources (WP:RS). See also: Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Good luck! Mark Arsten (talk) 15:29, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Happy Adminship

	Happy Adminship	from the Birthday Committee
	Wishing Mark Arsten a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! -- BenisonPBaby 14:52, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Wow, it has been a year. How time flies! Mark Arsten (talk) 15:29, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Apr to Jun 2013 Milhist content reviewing

		Military history reviewers' award
		By order of the Military history WikiProject coordinators, for your good work helping with the WikiProject's Peer, A-Class and Featured Article reviews for the period Apr-Jun 2013, I hereby award you this Military history WikiProject Reviewers' award. AustralianRupert (talk) 10:55, 1 August 2013 (UTC) Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your user space

ANI thread Hello. There is currently a discussion at WP:ANI regarding abuse, censorship. Thank you. —Jerappelle (talk) 16:27, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Southwest Airlines Flight 345

Somebody has made it into a redirect. I G4d it and maybe you'd like to delete it again....William 16:34, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) A redirect is fine, does nobody any harm, and helps our readers find what information remains about that flight. Why would you seek to delete it? Is it "substantially identical to the deleted version"? No it is not. So it's not a credible speedy deletion target. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:40, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with Rambling Man. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:52, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/The Coral Island/archive1

Mark, why was this deleted? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:00, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

• See your talkpage Drmies. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:02, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I saw it was tagged as a G8 deletion, which didn't make sense to me. It did qualify for G7 though, since one person created it and then blanked it, so I deleted it that way. I assumed the tagger mis-clicked. I guess I can restore it if you'd like though. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:04, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

• Gotcha. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 02:05, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
  • No prob, anytime. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:06, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I Have Some Real Concerns

Hi Mark, I have some real concerns. I fear the Sikh and some India related articles are being hijacked by Sikh Militants and pro-Indian Government factions. These factions are polar opposites and are re-enacting a media battle on wikipedia. If you go through my lists of warnings I have issued in my history, you will find the mainlist of protagonists. Some are very eloquent like JDiala, some have WP:Competence issues like Jujhar Pannu. It's getting to the stage where all I seem to be doing is patrolling, tagging converting. Correcting articles ruined by people with WP:Competence issues etc. Have you any advice, apart froma large dose of valium? :) Thanks SH 17:26, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Indian articles are tough... a lot of people run into problems there. I suppose you could try asking for help on the talk pages of relevant Wikiprojects. Have you talked to User:Sitush? He does a lot of work in that topic area and might be able to help you more than I can. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:36, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Mark, I am more a consumer of SH's experience in Sikh matters than an adviser or fellow-traveller. A lot of the sources are non-English or, at best, difficult for me to obtain, and the subject area is pretty arcane even by the standards of WP's India coverage. Without having been prompted by SH, I have become ware that Jujhar Pannu might be a problematic contributor but, really, unless the WMF are going to dole out some serious cash so that I have sources to work off, there is unlikely to be much that I can do here - I'm spending enough money sorting out caste stuff as it is without delving into a whole new belief system. From my general observations I think that SH is correct in their summary - media battle etc - but, alas, this is likely to be a niche area even among niche areas. It is most unfortunate. All I can offer is a willingness to assist where I can and when asked. - Sitush (talk) 01:44, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Poor Sitush get's as much if not more grief than me. I suppose i'l just have to soldier on and hope we can attract better Wikipedian here. Thanks SH 13:42, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I have a lot of respect for you guys... I wish you got more support. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:49, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Katia Elizarova

Hi, Mark, I blocked the registered account and the IP (as far as I know, there was only one) for edit warring at this article based on a report at WP:AN3. I was unaware of the report at WP:RFPP. I don't think protection is required now. I'll leave it up to you, though, whether to remove it. Regards.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:35, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'll unprotect. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:37, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Mark, let's hope there aren't any IPs lurking out there attached to the same individual. Of course, protection (probably semi) can always be reapplied if needed.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:43, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Unwarranted block

Hello,

You didn't have the right to block me for my edits on "Wake me up before you go-go". It wasn't a 3RR violation at all and it wasn't an edit warring either ! I simply re-added the elements Laser brain reverted. Your 3RR violation doesn't work at all in this case !

He talked about MoS violation, but to write "New wave" or "new wave" instead "New Wave" is not a MoS violation, it's the correct typography for this genre. And it's not a MoS violation either to write "number 1" instead "number one" for a peak position/a rank. It's totally normal to write it like that in the body of an article, as a peak position in a singlechart or a rank in a board is always written in number.

It's evident you didn't take a look at those edits and you did a great mistake ! I only reverted Laser brain edits per Wikipedia:Ignore all rules and per Wikipedia:Manual of Style, as my edits were entirely constructive and respected your Mos.

Now I'm going to change all my edits that Laser brain reverted for nothing. You mustn't take those changes for edit warring ! Take a look at his edits instead, which were not helpful and entirely unconstructive towards what I actually did.

And just for the record, my only purpose is to improve song articles. I don't intend to make edit warring/genre warring/vandalism at all. You must understand that, from now on, you have to let me do the necessary changes in order to improve songs pages. You'd better take a look at my edits before saying I'm violating any rules, which was not the case at all !

I hope you've undertstood this message and that you won't make any mistake again. Synthwave.94 (talk) 22:08, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll try to explain: the gold standard for dealing with editing disputes on Wikipedia is WP:BRD. When someone doesn't like your edits, even if you are sure they are wrong, it is advisable to discuss the matter with them instead of reverting again and again. If you keep reverting, per Wikipedia's rules (WP:3RR) you will be blocked. Even if your edits are better than their's, you don't have the right to continually revert. You should engage in talk page discussion, dispute resolution (WP:DR), an request for comment (WP:RFC), or a discussion on one of many noticeboards (listed at the top of WP:ANI). Anything but hitting "Undo" over and over. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:46, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I already discuss what's wrong on Laser Brain talk page but you must keep an eye on him anyway. I don't want to see my edits reverted by this user any more ! Is it clear enough for you ? Synthwave.94 (talk) 22:55, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Please do continue to discuss the matter with him. Try proposing changes on the talk page and asking for input before adding them to the article. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:01, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I never had to discuss my changes so far. And I don't see why I should discuss my changes before making them, it's entirely nonsensical. As I said, my edits are all made in order to improve Wikipedia articles. It's simply other editors who must understand what I'm doing and not the opposite. Synthwave.94 (talk) 23:15, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

User:Synthwave.94

Please take a look here. I'm not sure if they fail the duck test, but IMO they are a sock-troll. Thanks! GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:26, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Will monitor the situation. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:50, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think this is going to end well. After his block he went right back to the pages that got him blocked and made the same edits again. He left a message on my Talk page indicating he believes he's done nothing wrong, and he continues to dispute that he's edit warring. For extra fun, we now have a Canadian IP undoing his edits (see [4]). For my part, I'm going to disengage as I've already spent too many cycles on it. --Laser brain (talk) 00:21, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

IMO, most of their edits are cleverly disguised vandalism. Also, I think that when you have an editor of only 6 weeks who reacts so aggressively to polite requests from respected users to stop edit/genre warring that 99% of the time they are sock-trolls. FWIW, there is some interesting "evidence" at their talk about editing under multiple IP addresses. I'm not buying the broken English bit either. Sometimes they sound like an ESL speaker and others they are quite fluent, IMO. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:43, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm sure this is a taxing situation for you all. Disruption on this articles can be very frustrating. Well, the editor has a choice to make about whether to continue pushing the same changes, I'll watch and respond accordingly. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:58, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

I see I have no other choice. I have to explain a little bit more the matter. My edits are not "disguised vandalism" at all, GabeMc. You're entirely wrong about it. I want to make understand to everyone here that my purpose is not to create troubles on Wikipedia. I really want to help improving Wikipedia, trust me ! But I seriously needs help from you : I want a better environment in order to improve articles. That's my only desire but you don't seem to understand it. If you give me all the tools and the environment I need, I can improve any song article. Please don't judge me on details, it's irrelevant. I came here in peace this time. Give me a second chance, please undo the edits of a "Canadian IP adress" (I see some of them has already been reverted by another user than me.) I'm sorry to answer "aggressively" but I've got the impression no one here (except one or two users) has understood my real purpose on Wikipedia and I'm frustrated that no one clearly understand it. Don't blame me please ! Forgive me for my last edits ! I can tell you that if my edits were so "disruptive", I wouldn't be thanked by other users. Yes, I've already been thanked for my edits, you can trust me.

To sum it up, please see my edits as "good faith" (that's the only word I'm able to use) and not as "disruptive edits". You're making a big mistake believing what I'm doing is in order to create troubles ! Synthwave.94 (talk) 02:15, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, if I assume good-faith then I would ask you to read WP:COMPETENT. BTW, you might be editing from an IP in France, but you are not a French language speaker, IMO: Je dis cela parce que vous semblez aller et venir entre plusieurs dialectes régionaux et ce qui apparaît comme des barrières linguistiques artificielles. Êtes-vous un locuteur natif asiatique, française ou britannique? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:46, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

You're right, I"m a French language speaker who can explain myself in English, but does it really matter ? You would probably ask me why I don't improve the French Wikipedia. It's because the articles are poor and not written very well. I wanted to improve Wikipedia English at first, because there is much more songs articles than on Wikipedia French that can be improved. I thought I didn't need a perfect English for this, because I thought the two Wikipedias worked the same way : users check if there is no vandalism/nonsensical things added and accept the rest (except some exceptions). I also thought I did the things right since I created an account. I forgot to explain I was literally pushed to create an account. I didn't need an account at all when I began to modify articles, at the end of May. After that, I met Flat Out, which makes me discover some good things (the fact I have to look for reliable sources to change genres for example) but after that I got some troubles. I don't remember why but Flat Out gave me this advice : to create an account in order to have benefits IP adresses doesn't have. It's not entirely wrong, but there is a side I don't like with an account. You are quickly identified by other users and it's hard afterwards to make other users think you're not here to create troubles.

I have to repeat again : my purpose is to contribute to Wikipedia articles. I have great respect for Wikipedia and I would never harm any Wikipedia articles. Can't you see all the singlecharts I created, all the wrong genres I changed with reliables sources, all the bare URLs/incomplete references I completed and samples/cover versions references I added to songs articles ? You missed a great part of my purpose and when you're saying in your edits "restore to last clean version", you're not doing the things right at all. And how am I supposed to know what are the things who are wrong if nobody tell me them ? I'm not using Twinkle or something like that, I do everything manually. To copy-paste from a precedent version is the only thing I'm able to do to re-add what you cancelled.

I've got an idea about the matter (and I suggest you to follow it) : please tell GabeMc to revert his edits and to tell me what I have to change to respect Wikipedia guidelines (I don't have the right to edit his talk page so that's why I'm talking about it here). I won't spend a lot of time for this but he and you have to help me if you want a better article at the end of the process. I'd like to know what's wrong for the following articles that he reverted :

Karma Chameleon

Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go

Heal the World

Let's Groove

Upside Down

Just an Illusion

Music and Lights

Those Were The Days

Don't Know What You Got (Till It's Gone)

Words (F. R. David song)

Din Daa Daa (song) (that I particularly improved because it was nothing else but a stub at the beginning)

Rock Me Amadeus

I hope you will really help me this time. And a last thing I have to say : if you see a song article where I modified and that you found errors, PLEASE DON'T REVERT THEM ! Simply edit my talk page and tell me what I have to change. I often go on Wikipedia and I can tell you it won't take me a long time to react to your edits on my talk page and then to correct what's wrong about my edits. Synthwave.94 (talk) 07:14, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I haven't read all this, but I would strongly recommend that GabeMc give a detailed explanation as to why your edits should be reverted when reverting them. That way you'll know what not to do in the future. Synthwave, you might also want to consider asking for a mentor to help you. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:00, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry Mark, but I don't and won't bend over backwards for rude and aggressive "newer" accounts that are likely socks, as this one clearly was. Nearly every single edit they made introduced errors and part of the success of their approach is that it takes far more effort to explain the problems then it does to rectify them. Anyway, several editors did try to explain the issue with them and it did not matter. Remember, AGF is not a suicide pact. GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:42, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, I just saw that he's been indeffed, so I guess we won't have to waste time on him anymore. Let me know if any WP:DUCKs turn up and I'll block them and semi-protect the targets. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:51, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Copyvio/protection issue at Aam Aadmi Party

Hi Mark, given that you semi'd Aam Aadmi Party and I've just reverted a reinstatement of precisely the same disputed content, I think it politic at least to let you know that I have done that thing. My revert is here and follows a request for a self-revert made several hours ago. Also in the spirit of open-ness, myself and the user who reinstated - Tall.kanna (talk · contribs) - do have a bit of history concerning this article: you will see some of it if you are prepared to trawl through the talk page.

In any event, my primary defence is the copyright issue and the fact that Tall.kanna is aware of it both from the article talk page and from comment on Commons that pre-dates their reinstatement of the image and merely reiterates stuff that has already been queried on the article talk page. If I have stepped over the 3RR bright line by making that revert then please accept my apologies. - Sitush (talk) 00:38, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

No problem, I think your edit falls under the 3RR exemption for copyvio issues. I just left a message for the user, hopefully he won't edit war over it. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:53, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok and thanks for looking into it as an uninvolved admin. This and other Indian politics articles are likely to get very messy over the next few months because there are state elections later this year, national elections next year. Some Indian politicians have now latched on to the power of the web and (I think) just how much even a small proportion of a > 1 billion population can tweak Wikipedia. Not that this particular instance is likely to be a tweaking exercise: it is a new party borne out of a populist protest movement and thus as likely to attract the naive contributor as the committed pov-pusher. - Sitush (talk) 01:34, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Indefinite logarithm

It would be a good idea to re-instate the "indefinite logarithm" article. The deletion is based on very weak arguments (quibbling, actually). The term is useful, and many other articles point to it, which makes the deletion very counterproductive. I'll be off-line for 2 weeks, not able to respond during that period. Boute (talk) 07:50, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but there was a pretty firm consensus for deletion in that discussion. If you'd like to have it overturned, you'll have to apply at WP:DRV. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:49, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Page Remover!

>:( — Preceding unsigned comment added by HoshiNoKaabii2000 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

(Redacted) A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC) They also posted on my talk page after I nominated a page they created for speedy deletion.--Forward Unto Dawn 11:31, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I've redacted some discussion and comments here - everyone, please remember that Wikipedia is not the place to discuss personal details of yourself or others, whether real or speculative. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:58, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Wow, looks like I slept through some interesting stuff... It's not every day I wake up to a half dozen oversighted edits on my talk page. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:51, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I must accept some responsibility for that; I apologise.--Forward Unto Dawn 09:49, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Can you keep an eye on this guy?

Hi Mark,

That unregistered user, 122.144.64.116, you blocked about two weeks ago for edit warring on Tubod, Surigao del Norte is back again and continuing to insert original research into the article. If this user violates WP:3RR, can you ban him/her from any and all future edits to this article? They've already been blocked twice for this reason. Regards, --Forward Unto Dawn 11:20, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Blocked for one week, hopefully this will get the point across to him/her. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:03, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. If that user resumes their insertion of original research and subsequently resumes an edit war, would an article ban be appropriate or should I request semi-protection for that article?--Forward Unto Dawn 09:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I'd say go for protection if it returns as a different IP, otherwise we can just block him again. Mark Arsten (talk) 13:27, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Request for userfication

That retains article history right ? I have a recent backups of the text for obvious reasons but it'd be preferable for you to undelete the article to my namespace so I can work on it while I find valid sources for the term digital look-alike ( e.g. like this Scientific American article ). --Redress perhaps (talk) 12:57, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I've moved the page and its history to User:Redress perhaps/Digital look-alike. Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:21, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Will work on finding sources like the one in the Scientific American and also work on the article. One thing I haven't mentioned is the digital look-alike of Arnold Schwarzennegger in Terminator Salvation but some sources complain that it does not look convincing. --Redress perhaps (talk) 20:16, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Sounds pretty interesting, hope it goes well. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:21, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 Azana Spa shootings

Can you elaborate on your close of this AfD please ? Specificity how those !voting keep addressed the articles adherence to the WP:NOT policy and the WP:NEVENT guideline. LGA _talk^edits 20:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I closed it as Keep because I thought there was a consensus to do so. I'd only throw out !votes if they were totally non-policy based. In this case, the people who supported keeping the article cited amount of coverage (some of it from international outlets). This lines up with Wikipedia:Notability (events), which indicates that international coverage can help indicate notability. Now, you certainly can disagree with their appraisal of the coverage, but in this case I think it would be wrong of me to dismiss their !votes. If you disagree, feel free to take the matter to WP:DRV. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:09, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I am not suggesting that they be throw out, just that the relative weight of them should be taken into account, for example none of the !vote keeps addressed at all the lack of any lasting effects or significance either in the article or with relation to sources this is a major thrust of the WP:NEVENT guideline and the WP:NOTNEWS policy. Also none of them address the souring is totally limited to news reports published in the 48 hours proceeding the event again another major part of the WP:NEVENT guideline. LGA _talk^edits 21:50, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I suppose they were somewhat weak. I've changed the close to "no consensus" accordingly. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:53, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, I will add the Notability|events maintenance template on to the article and explain my reasons on the Talk page. LGA _talk^edits 21:57, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Persistant disruptive edits on articles labeled "LGBT People from Italy"

Three months ago, the same user began to make systematic disruptive edits from different computers on Benvenuto Cellini, Poliziano, Torquato Tasso and Lucio Dalla among others.

The different IPs used by this person, probably Guido Lonchile (talk · contribs), are, for the more recent ones :

217.203.129.136 (talk · contribs), 95.74.248.0 (talk · contribs) and 109.52.145.74 (talk · contribs) for Torquato Tasso

217.203.139.73 (talk · contribs), 95.75.19.58 (talk · contribs)and 109.52.145.74 (talk · contribs) for Benvenuto Cellini

95.74.240.181 (talk · contribs), 217.203.139.73 (talk · contribs), 109.54.162.138 (talk · contribs) and B. River (talk · contribs), specifically created on this purpose for Poliziano.

Isn't it possible to block that person or to protect these articles ? Frimoussou (talk) 22:36, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for being so thorough. It is definitely possible to protect these articles, I think they've all been semi-protected for a while actually. Blocking the IPs might be a little difficult, but we might be able to get them rangeblocked. I'd have to check with someone who knows rangeblocks better than I do. Hopefully someone will the the ANI report you filed on the topic. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:22, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

There's a bit of an ongoing problem with Lucio Dalla, and I'm not sure what to do about it, beyond just not reverting the most recent edit because it clearly has become an edit war. I think it's pretty clear that the consensus is that Guido Lonchile (talk · contribs) is wrong about this one - and the sources are pretty clear on the subject of Dalla's sexuality. Any advice, please? Pinkbeast (talk) 14:56, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I just blocked for edit warring. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:00, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Back again 24h later. I really don't know what to do about this. On the face of it I'm edit warring too... but as far as I can see, the consensus of every other contributor is that the page should say, well, what the sources say. Pinkbeast (talk) 23:11, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

My advice is to take it to ANI. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:19, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

IP socks

Strong evidence of sockpuppetry and block evasion between 67.53.53.26 and 24.43.201.210 (and possibly more). I'm notifying Jehochman as well. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 22:46, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Interesting, it looks like 67* is blocked. 24* might qualify for a block too. His comment on the talk page of Snowden's article wasn't vandalism per se, but wasn't really understandable either. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:25, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

And 24* was blocked temporarily as well, for making death threats. The blocking admin wrote that he/she didn't block indef because it was a dynamic IP... which in hindsight is evidently not true, based on 24*'s continuing editing under the same address. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 04:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism of article, Norse dwarves

Not sure what to do.

An editor, Bloodofox, has a history of nonscholarly POV extremism, and has been doing vandalism to wikipedia for years now.

It seems that - without any permission or consensus - Bloodofox has destroyed the extensive history and scholarly citations in the “Norse dwarves” article by “moving” it to his own new POV-extreme article “Dwarf (Norse mythology)”.

Again, this is after a history of Bloodofox dealing damage to the Norse dwarves article, and apparently failing recently to gain a consensus to “merge” - thus destroy the article - into Dwarf (Germanic).

If someone knows how to repair the damage that Bloodofox has done, please, do so. To save the accumulation of academic citations.

Please restore the “Norse dwarves” article to before Bloodofox “moved” it. Haldrik (talk) 01:33, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

First of all, while his edits may or may not be misguided, they're not vandalism, per see. Vandalism has a very specific definition. But, if you disagree with his edits, the first thing to do is to explain why on the article's talk page. Then, you can possibly open an request for comment or go to another stage of dispute resolution where you'll get more input from other users. The important things to keep in mind are what reliable sources say and to be civil/not edit war. Let me know if you have any more questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:45, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Bloodofox has destroyed an entire article - and its history - and its years of content - by “moving” it. Without discussion. Without consensus. And with other editors continually needing to undo his vandalism. It is vandalism. I dont know how to recover the article that Bloodofox has destroyed. Haldrik (talk) 01:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

No, he didn't destroy the article, he just moved it. The history is visible at Dwarf (Norse mythology) now, I believe. If you think it should be moved back to the old title, you should file a requested move. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:54, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

No. The original article is Norse dwarves. But its history is now gone. Everything before the “move” is gone. The content has been destroyed. If you know how to restore it the history that existed in Norse dwarves before Bloodofox moved it. Please. Do so. Haldrik (talk) 01:58, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused, I think the old history is present at the new title. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:04, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Your information was helpful. I was able to restore the content. But unable to undo the name change. Haldrik (talk) 02:10, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

To change the name, you'll have to file a move request (WP:RM). And I strongly suggest you discuss the matter before restoring content. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:16, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Note that when Haldrik says "with other editors continually needing to undo his vandalism" he seems to refer to himself as an anonymous IP: [5] Nobody else has and the talk page is full of complaints about Haldrik's preferred personal essay. Anda also just reverted Soap (talk · contribs)'s reversion to that essay status ([6]). How many warnings and reverts does this guy get in a day? :bloodofox: (talk) 02:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

However many he's used at this point, he's just about run out. I've left a warning for him to stop edit warring and will block if he reverts again. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:28, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

• I'm having a hard time imagining this possible fight between an ox and a bunch of dwarves (or dwarfs). Do the dwarves (or dwarfs) know that they don't exist? Drmies (talk) 03:33, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Hmm, but if you think you don't exist, doesn't that mean you do exist? Or are dwarves the exception to that rule? Mark Arsten (talk) 03:35, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

But doesn't the cute little kitten make your cold heart sing? :D

An0nym0us7r011 (talk) 02:14, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

It sure does. But I will block you unless you stop vandalizing. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:15, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Aww, all I ever wanted to do was edit Wikipedia... (talk) 02:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, you're free to do so... but please no more jokes. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:20, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Okayyy... is there a page which is free to edit however you like and if not, may I make it? :) (talk) 02:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Sure, if you start User:An0nym0us7r011/Sandbox you can write almost anything you want there. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:25, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks!! (talk) 02:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

The user above has been blocked and it seems like User: John Arsten is now a sockpuppet of theirs. See the page history of An0nym0us7r011 talk page. STATic message me! 17:53, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the note... hopefully that wasn't a relative ;) Mark Arsten (talk) 18:02, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Warangal

Hi Mark, thanks for semi-protecting Warangal. If you glance at the lead of Telangana then you'll note that the proposed new state is unlikely to happen for several months and that there is a history of reneged government promises. This separatist fight has been going on for 40 years or more now. It is for that reason that I thought pending changes might be more suitable than an outright block of anon edits. I didn't explain that very well at RFPP, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 15:44, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I can switch to pending changes then. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:46, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks. That is the first time I've requested PC - I'll try to make a better fist of it if when it happens again. - Sitush (talk) 16:06, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Clemente

Hi Mark, I work for Francesco Clemente, would you be kind enough to leave the Wiki as it is ? It was written by a Clemente expert and approved by him. If you have any questions, please feel free to write me an email: [removed] Thank you for your consideration. Ricardo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.182.52.245 (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I've just posted on your talk page. We tend to discourage people from writing about people they work for, per WP:COI. The best thing you can do is propose changes on the talk page instead of directly editing the article. I recommend registering an account and asking for help, possibly at the WP:Teahouse. Let me know if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:41, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Help on Bangladesh

Thank you to protect the page Bangladesh. I also request you to revert the following edit by 203.112.78.5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bangladesh&diff=567406226&oldid=567398100) as a Vandalism, removing and corrupting the information on Bangladesh. I request you to revert this edit done by 203.112.78.5. Thank you বিজয় চক্রবর্তী (Bijoy Chokroborti) ✉ 16:18, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm not sure that edits qualifies as vandalism per our definition, WP:Vandalism. I'm otherwise not supposed to revert to a particular version of the page after protecting it. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:43, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Outing; deletion needed

I just removed this material, which probably needs revdel and an email to Oversight. Asking you because you've been putting lots of work into Special:Log/delete in the last hour. 2001:18E8:2:1020:A5A9:6E82:BFCB:13A0 (talk) 19:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I think I got it. Thanks for the note. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:54, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I guess it's not exactly outing, but is a block needed for the poster, 95.170.203.130? Can't remember what we do in this kind of case. 2001:18E8:2:1020:A5A9:6E82:BFCB:13A0 (talk) 19:59, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I just left him a warning, but I probably won't block unless he does something like that again though. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:05, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Longest word

Hello, I noticed you undid one of my recent contributions to the "Longest word" article. The edit itself is not unconstructive. I can guarentee that as a native speaker and the text I pasted in the entry can be found in dictionaries. I will search for full source. 89.164.233.235 (talk) 00:31, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, sorry about that then. You'll forgive me for thinking it was vandalism, I hope. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Danny Davis Graft Scandal

Here is my source: http://www.suntimes.com/21767105-761/2-chicago-men-charged-with-illegally-lobbying-for-mugabe.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.93.82.210 (talk) 01:49, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, but you have to cite the source in the article per our verifiability rules. See WP:Citing sources for details. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:52, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi

I replied on the talk page. It does conform to MoS so can you self revert? Edgth (talk) 03:14, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for coming to the talk page. I'll look it over tomorrow and get back to you on this. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:34, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

It´s a pretty simple edit, I don´t know what needs to be looked over. Edgth (talk) 03:55, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps that your rationale may be faulty? Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 03:58, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Impossible. Edgth (talk) 04:12, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm kind of occupied with some other things at the moment, and this is far from an urgent issue. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:17, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

Hi i'm Coyote wadi to watching userboxes of GMA Network had to watching for this WayKurat. (talk) 03:38 7 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean here. Could you rephrase your comment? Mark Arsten (talk) 04:15, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Also, I'd prefer if you didn't add userboxes to my user page, since they may not be accurate of me. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Sachin_Dev_Duggal

Dear Mark,

Someone in my team alerted me to the discussion around the article that was listed for deletion about myself. I wanted to find out if you needed any further material information to make a conclusion. Naturally I'd be happier if it was kept however in order to standardize I'm happy to submit additional information as needed.

I have kept off the deletion page itself to avoid any unnecessary confrontation; however keep in mind that wikipedia is global in nature and whats important to a US audience, an Indian Audience and an UK based crowd will be different; a large portion of the work I do is speak and schools / colleges about entrepreneurship and "thinking differently" - the wikipedia entry serves as a good place for the students to get neutral information (I must admit I'm a little surprised as how its been put together - benefits of crowd-sourcing I guess).

Finally - one of the folks on the page opted to make judgement calls about our previous businesses or about the patents issued - I think we should naturally focus on the article and not make remarks intended at anyones achievements or not. It's not friendly nor the right contextual ambience for the open-free-digitally open economy.

All the best

Sachin [removed] should you need to reach back to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.32.177 (talk) 20:01, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sachin, thanks for your message. We do prefer that people with connections to the article not cast a keep or delete opinion on the page (or edit it directly), so thanks for not doing that. You are allowed to offer potential sources that might indicate notability though. If you have examples of non-trivial coverage in newspapers, magazines, or books (see WP:RS for what we look for) you can post them on the Afd discussion for participants to review (disclosing your WP:COI, of course). That would probably be the best thing to do to help the article be kept. Admins try not to close based on their personal opinion of the article's notability, but instead to reflect the consensus that participants in the article have reached. Any admin can close the discussion, so it may not be me that closes it (although I do close a lot of them). Let me know if you have any more questions, thanks. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:29, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Chittagong Hill Tracts Conflict

Hi, just a heads-up, I proposed a course of action to solve the move/merge brouhaha at Talk:Chittagong Hill Tracts Conflict, but wouldn't of course want to to act without your input, you being the last admin to apply protection on the issue. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:55, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

I replied there, thanks for the note. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:40, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Merge request

Since you did so well on the Sergeant Reckless merge, can you merge User:Wehwalt/sherwood into Grace Sherwood? Thank you. PumpkinSky talk 00:44, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I'll take a stab at it. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:53, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I think it's done now. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Hang on a tick...

didn't actually mean to have my sandbox deleted; I was trying to test out a possible VE bug/quirk related to speedy templates. Undelete, please? Thanks for the quick action, though! Ignatzmice•talk 02:26, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

LOL, sorry about that! I'll restore it. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:27, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Ignatzmice•talk 02:31, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Cardiff West services

Hi. Just wondered why you closed this article's AfD as "no consensus" last week? The "delete" votes were all based one a one paragraph unsourced stub, before I expanded it, at which point, every subsequent vote was "Keep". The only person who explicitly restated their position was Sionk, who went from "speedy delete" to "not sure". Obviously NC and Keep look the same from the reader's point of view, but my main concern is a NC result might tempt somebody to send it back to AfD again. What do you think? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:21, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

That's a good question, and the answer is tricky. I usually weight !votes by their grounding in policy. Evaluating them based on the condition of the article at the time they were cast is difficult unless they return to the discussion at a later point. It's hard to guess whether they would have changed their minds or not. In this case, I expect a renomination wouldn't go very well since the article has been improved. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:27, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Aaqib Wikia

Can you please join this wiki link --216.54.100.70 (talk) 15:50, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure. What's the wiki about? Mark Arsten (talk) 15:51, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ASU Politehnica Timişoara

Your close of this AFD appears to have been reverted, here. I've asked the editor for clarification, but wanted you to have the heads up as well. FYI. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 18:51, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Defensor San Alejandro

Hi. (I think) I PROD'd Defensor San Alejandro but failed to realize it competes in the Peruvian Second Division, a professional league and by WP:FOOTY's guidelines, notable. --MicroX (talk) 01:43, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, so you'd like me to restore it? Mark Arsten (talk) 01:45, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

ASU Politehnica Timişoara

Unfortunately I cannot edit on WP:DRV. This redirect is incorect. There are tow teams fighting for the legacy of FC Politehnica Timișoara, populary known as Poli Timișoara: thew one with the deleted page and ACS Poli Timișoara. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acornboy (talk • contribs) 14:47, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

My advice would be to open a discussion at WP:RFD then. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:49, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

History merge request

Dear Mark:

You helped me out yesterday with a history merge, so I thought I would see if you could do another. This article: Brough Family Organization was cut from Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Brough Family Organization, but then the article creator blanked the page without explaining why, and some reverting happened. I wonder if it is possible and appropriate to merge only the part of the history up to the cut and paste date. The rest is just people trying to fix what they thought was vandalism. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:02, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I learned how to do these histmerges a couple weeks ago, and I'm glad to have a chance to get some more practice in. So, sure, I think I can handle this one. I'll just selectively undelete the revisions at the end. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:25, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I gave it a shot. How did I do? Mark Arsten (talk) 15:33, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great! And it reduced the backlog of Afc articles with missing templates by one - only 817 left to go... Since you are in the mood, here's one that's really messed up: a couple of people worked on this article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Chagos Marine Protected Area, and then one user decided to move it to mainspace, but the title already existed, so after some messing around, the redirect text was deleted and the content from the above article copied over to the existing article name, Chagos Marine Protected Area. Can you do anything with this? —Anne Delong (talk) 22:06, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, I'll try to get to it later. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:42, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I think I took care of it. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:29, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again. We get a lot of new users trying random stuff. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:24, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Steve Allison and Gregg Blasingame

You deleted two articles: Steve Allison and Gregg Blasingame. The articles were proposed for deletion based on the criteria that neither man played in a professional sports league, in this case the first Major Indoor Soccer League (MISL). When I provided sources (New York Times, LA Times, Colin Jose^[7], David Litterer^[8], Roger Allaway^[9] and Steve Holroyd) showing MISL was a professional league, other editors dismissed these sources as unreliable. Yet they provided NO sources to back up their claims. I even added this LA Times article mentioning Blasingame, a 1988 MISL All Star on a team with a a $1.275 million salary cap.^[10] To say I am flabbergased these articles were deleted based on unsupported opinion is an understatement. You can view some of the sources I provided showing the professional nature of the MISL: WT:FPL. Mohrflies (talk) 15:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Is there a consensus at the football Wikiproject that it was a fully pro league? Mark Arsten (talk) 15:41, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

No, and that has me stumped. The first time someone mentioned this issue, I threw a couple of sources their way only to be told they weren't good enough. I've done quite a bit more digging and I came across this 1982 New York Times article which seems to be pretty conclusive to me: "Minimum salaries were increased to $2,000 a month."^[11] Using the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics ^[12], that gives us a monthly minimum salary equivalent to $4,800 today for every player in the league. Major League Soccer guarantees a minimum annual salary of $46,500 which comes to $3,875 per month. So, if MLS is "fully" professional, how can a league which paid its players almost a thousand more per month be "semi" professional? It just doesn't correlate. Mohrflies (talk) 16:53, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'm going to wait until the Wikiproject has come to a consensus before I take action. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:55, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Relisting Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zenryoku Gu Shōjo!! Action!!

I'm not sure there is much point in relisting this, given that it appears that the anime series concerned is actually going to be called Zetsumetsu Kigu Shōjo Amazing Twins - and an article for that has already been created. I'd have thought a delete per WP:IAR/'self-evident non-existence' might be more appropriate... AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:12, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I was confused here, I thought both articles were up for deletion. I can redirect it then. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Apollo Talk

Hi Mark. Please extend the semi-protection of the Apollo 10 Talk to all Apollo Talk pages. An IP hopping, block evading vandal[13][14][15] keeps adding the same German conspiracy spam to all of them. Thanks, Yintan  19:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I think I took care of all of them. Let me know if he comes back when the protections expire. We might want to consider a range block though, but I'm not sure if it would be feasible in this case. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:36, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I think a range block is not such a bad idea. Guys like this are usually pretty stubborn. We'll see. Yintan  19:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm very much a novice at rangeblocks, but any of these folks could probably help. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:41, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I've been looking at the range but it is so wide (here are just two[16][17]) that it would basically block every Deutsche Telekom dial-up IP. Which would shut out many, many German editors. O, how I love the brilliant idea of allowing anonymous IP editing on WP. Sigh. Anyway, let's hope the protection helps. Thanks again. Yintan  19:57, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, the addition of 93.202* is the problem, I think. He seems to be the only one editing from the 93.23* range, but blocking that might not stop him. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:59, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Mark, thank you for the semi-protection of Apollo 10-17 Talk pages. Please do the same thing with Apollo 7, 8 and 9. Thanks Susanne Walter (talk) 19:47, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I think I got them all now. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

User:Tranquil Pepere

Any chance you are willing to impose a topic ban on User:Tranquil Pepere? This is starting to get a bit tiresome... It seems he has also been blocked on the French Wikipedia for basically the same behaviour [18]. —Ruud 08:50, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think I can unilaterally impose a topic ban here, but if you go to WP:ANI I suspect you'd gain consensus for one rather quickly. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:30, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Indo-Pakistani War of 1971

Hello again . Thanks for protecting the article. One request: could you revert to my latest revision[19]? That's the one a consensus was reached about, regarding the infobox. (See also the 'Reverting?' discussion on my Talk, and this[20] RfC). Thanks, Yintan  15:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm hesitant to revert to a particular version for fear of seeming like I'm "picking a side" in this dispute, sorry! Mark Arsten (talk) 15:31, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. BTW, I haven't picked a side either, I just followed the RfC. That war itself is irrelevant to me. Yintan  15:43, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

On Second thought, it probably is best to restore the version that the Rfc supported. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:13, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I think so too but I can't do that. By the way, the discussion has been moved from my Talk to the article's Talk, should you wish to read some more before/if reverting. Cheers, Yintan  20:18, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Kon Wapos Lodge

There is no citation for the edit I made to the Bay Lakes Council page because there is no citation existing. I was a voting member at the Merger meeting when we decided details about the lodge- including the number. Alex Derr, the current Awase Lodge Chief, along with Rudy Mosca, current Ag-Im Lodge Chief, said that there will be no number for Kon Wapos Lodge because the lodges would like to come in on equal footing.

Yours in Scouting, Preston Podolske Manakua Chapter Chief Awase Lodge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.199.222.13 (talk) 15:19, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

We do require citations to be added to support facts though. See our WP:OR guideline for details. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Derrick Jensen

Hello, I noticed you reverted my edit to this page. I replaced it, including several new citations, despite the fact that i was mostly rewording for clarity that which had been documented in the footnotes already present. I also rephrased a sentence which was making a very dubious assertion that was neither cited nor capable of being cited (paraphrased: "most feminists believe Derrick Jensen [a relatively obscure author, even within the feminist community] is transphobic"). While it would be impossible for me to provide a citation proving that this statement is absurd, it would be equally impossible to prove it is in any way accurate. I had reworded the sentence, going into more detail, and now I have added 2 more citations which express both sides of the issue. I hope these changes are now satisfactory. Feel free to remove my changes again, but either way, the aforementioned statement ("Most feminists...") is a blatant exaggeration, is unverifiable, and is part of a concerted effort to publicly and libelously discredit this person, and should definitely not be restored.

Thanks! Painted raven (talk) 18:02, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, as long as the sentence is clear and supported by reliable sources (WP:RS) I probably won't have a problem with it. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:58, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Banc de Binary libel

Hi Mark. The page protection you put on Banc de Binary protects edits made by Rybec that libel our company. Specifically, Banc de Binary does not have an F rating with the BBB. It has no rating. I respectfully request that you revert Rybec's edits and block him, Hobbes Goodyear, and MrOllie-- who added and supported those edits--from editing the page. Libel is an actionable offense in the United States. http://law.onecle.com/california/civil/45a.html

Is anyone looking at what these people are doing on Wikipedia? They are a huge legal liability for you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.77.75.179 (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, a few things: 1. for legal issues, please contact the WMF's legal department instead of individual admins like myself. Note that we don't allow people to edit while they're pursuing legal actions. 2. for content-dispute issues, you want to post on the article's talk page with you concerns: Talk:Banc De Binary. You'll have the most success if you explain how the article doesn't line up with what reliable sources say. We generally don't allow people to edit article's about their company, but if you disclose your ties on the talk page you're free to make recommendations. 3. I don't see anything about the BBB or an F-rating on the current version of the article, so I can't help you unless you're more specific about what you object to. Let me know if you have any more questions. If you're going to be editing regularly, I highly recommend registering an account. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

T-REX Helicopter

Can you undelete the information? Or can you put this in its place? http://www.rcheliwiki.com/Align_T-Rex_450 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Rex_%28RC_helicopter%29#T-Rex_450 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20.137.2.50 (talk) 18:48, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Since there was a consensus to delete the article during the deletion discussion, I can't just restore the article. To have it restored, you'll have to apply at WP:DRV. Let me know if you have any questions, thanks. Mark Arsten (talk) 19:07, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

IP range 108.128 and sexual orientation

Hey, Mark. With regard to this matter concerning the Heterosexuality article, you told me, "Let me know if it shows up elsewhere and I'll look into a range block." Well, the IP range has now showed up at the Sexual orientation article; see here, here, here and here, or just click on the edit history, for details. And since sexual orientation is a contentious topic and there is currently a pedophile matter (for example, see here) going on at that article, it might be best to give the article long-term or indefinite semi-protection anyway. Flyer22 (talk) 22:12, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

And given what the IP asserts about heterosexuality/homosexuality, at least now I have a better understanding as to why he or she was removing the sexual orientation aspect at the Heterosexuality article; to that editor, sexuality expressed between people of the opposite sex is the only natural type of sexual orientation-based sexual expression. Flyer22 (talk) 22:25, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree, this is a high-enough profile article that continued disruption is more or less inevitable. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Flyer22 (talk) 22:55, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Looks like the same user has been hitting a bunch of articles, so I guess we'll just keep our eyes open. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:02, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Indeed. I also watch and occasionally edit the Janice Dickinson and Adolescence articles, and, from the link you provided above, I see that the same person may have edited those articles as well (the Janice Dickinson article needs a lot more work than the latter, though). Flyer22 (talk) 23:11, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, sometimes I wonder if you have all 4 million pages on the wiki watchlisted... I can't tell you how many times I see you reverting vandalism when looking at page histories! Mark Arsten (talk) 23:14, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

LOL!! Yes, you've told me before...albeit with different words. Flyer22 (talk) 23:39, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh yes, I forgot I said that. Well, we need all the help we can get some days! Mark Arsten (talk) 00:00, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Looks like a sock to me.

Hey Mark, recently User: Weeman666 begun randomly blanking articles such as 2009 in hip hop music, 2012 in hip hop music, 2011 in hip hop music as you can see here, then after a final warning from me at 23:48 on August 5, 2013, he ceases editing. Then next morning User: Sntayhts94 is created and continues doing the same thing here, here, and here. Not to mention the only other article Sntayhts94 edits besides the 20-- in hip hop music articles, is Point Grey Pictures an article Weeman666 just recently created. Looks like a pretty clear case of WP:DUCK to me. STATic message me! 23:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, sock-blocked the new account. I'm not the the old one qualifies for a vandalism only or edit warring block though, so I guess just keep your eyes open going forwards. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:38, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Alright thanks, the master account has received a final warning, and if he vandalizes again he will be blocked anyways. STATic message me! 00:07, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Fondant

You cannot needlessly advertise one company's 'Fondant' products. This is an encyclopedia not a commercial website. Please rectify the source immediately; there are many other fondant companies out there in the market. As it is, the information cited to that source does not reveal anything factual about 'Fondant' as fondant recipes differ from company to company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.154.211.108 (talk) 02:08, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I think I understand what you were doing now. You are free to remove advertising sources, but please use an edit summary ({{WP:EDITSUMMARY]]) to explain your changes. Repeatedly removing the references section makes it look like you're vandalizing. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:10, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Mughal and Maratha.

Hey, first off I want to thank you on the protection log you put on the page List of wars involving India but I want to know the reason to why it is also on Mughal Empire and Maratha Empire pages?? Nikhilmn2002 (talk) 06:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I protected those two pages because there was edit warring over the inclusion of Nepal. Please try to work towards a consensus on the talk page before adding or removing it again. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:39, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I have tried to resolve the issue by providing proof that parts of Nepal were part of these empires but the person who keeps removing it won't accept it and besides Nepal was put in the page before I even knew about the page. So don't you think that Nepal should be included in the pages until someone provides evidence that it shouldn't? Nikhilmn2002 (talk) 03:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I'd suggest that you stop reverting and hold an WP:RFC on the talk page to get more input from other editors. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:56, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay I will do that thank you very much Nikhilmn2002 (talk) 04:15, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

		The Admin's Barnstar
		I just wanted to say thank you for taking care of those tagged articles. It's greatly appreciated! Ishdarian 17:22, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure, it's fun to tackle a backlog like that. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Disruptive editing and edit warring by user:Chaipau

Hello, as per your directions, we go through dispute resolution on Kamapitha, after consensus reached, user Chaipau again indulge in edit warring here. Please encourage him to accept DR process.Thanks भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 21:36, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to look into it later. Just try to practice WP:BRD for now. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:10, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Unlike BB's claim, no consensus has been reached. BB submitted the issue to WP:RSN after I asked him to do so (diff). The only objection to Gait came from user:Sitush, who associated Gait with another British officer and provided a blanket objection to all writings by British officers (diff). I have provided evidence that Gait has been quoted by other respected historians in recent times, and precisely on this very issue. Sitush has since neutralized his objection and that any consensus would now be acceptable to him diff). Chaipau (talk) 10:07, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Brad Friedel

Hi Mark, Thanks for stepping in to sort this. I thought the others who had commented were Admins so my mistake in trying to be helpful if in trying to help I overstepped the mark. Some advice please. As the IP will not engage despite being asked and encouraged by me to do several times now how do I proceed? I was hoping by the way they were claiming knowledge they might Share to provide some new insight into how things have moved on and so they could help to find a more recent article to provide a more up to date version of events. However, it is clear they do not want to participate in any dialogue anywhere or collaborate on improving the article. Moreover it occurred to me from the nature of their subsequent edit summaries that the IP was possibly closely connected to the subject of the article and was just set on wiping away the event from the record. As there are several alternative sources out there many of which are in the US that do not just regurgitate the Mirror article but record the basic facts relating to the case one of these could be used. So is it in order whilst the protection is in place for me to try and provide an RS for this brief event and add in a new sentence that meets NPOV replacing the currently deleted sentance and citation? Tmol42 (talk) 00:21, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I think the best thing to do while it is protected is to get the best sources together, write out a proposal on the talk page, and then get feedback about whether it's unproblematic BLP-wise. Again, the IP was definitely disruptive, but it's worth paying attention to his concerns regardless. Let me know if there are any more issues. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:44, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Quick question

In your highly regarded opinion, does this edit justify reversion per (Personal attack removed)? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think it's sufficient to merit the rpa template, no, but that doesn't mean it's Ok to say either. I'd have to look into it further to be able to say more. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:22, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, so maybe not the template, but is it alright to revert it based on the fact that it does not pertain to content and only disparages an editor? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:28, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't revert it quite yet, just object to it and then save the diff in case you have to bring him to ANI or something. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

• Is there any way to get this account CUed based an obvious fail of the duck test? GabeMc ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Most likely, but you'd probably have to file an WP:SPI to get an CU on it. If it's blatant enough I block based on the duck test, but it has to be really obvious for that. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:58, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Indo-Pakistani War of 1971

Mr. Mark thanks for protecting the article. But this edit was not justified. The view was not endorsed in the RfC. The RfC was only concerned with US, not with other countries. THe RfC's reslut clearly explains that. I have opted for further discussion at the article's talk. Faizan 06:49, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Bangladesh Liberation War

User Faizan has launched an edit war again over the most ridiculous issues. Can we have your opinion on the matter.--Bazaan (talk) 08:16, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Unprotection-2013 Teen Choice Awards

Now that the event is over, can we get protection lifted early? --72.64.251.152 (talk) 10:56, 12 August 2013 (UTC)