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June 22, 2024
- (Discuss) – Anti-Americanism → Anti-American sentiment – This would be in line with almost all other articles on xenophobia, such as Anti-Albanian sentiment, Anti-African sentiment, Anti-Afghan sentiment, Anti-Armenian sentiment, Anti-Assyrian sentiment, Anti-Azerbaijani sentiment, and that is just those beginning with 'A'. It is very commonly used in academia, although I don't know whether it is marginally more common than the status quo. Alexanderkowal (talk) 16:48, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Favonian (talk) 17:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:00, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Piracy in India → Koli piracy in India – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. 106.196.36.70 (talk) 20:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chinilpa → Korean collaborators with Imperial Japan – See my talk post above this; this article is currently titled using a term considered derogitory, and isn't exclusively a discussion about the word itself per WP:WORDISSUBJECT. It actually significantly talks about the people alleged to be collaborators. That'd be like talking about a people group under an article titled with a slur for them; that's clearly not neutral, it feels like it's validating the slur. Note: I'm not expressing sympathy for nor opposition to collaborators here, I am purely trying to apply WP:NDESC. My proposed new title matches Category:Korean collaborators with Imperial Japan; I just chose to use it for consistency and because it's an adequate title, open to suggestions for other titles. Side note, but the term itself is possibly independently notable and could eventually get its own article, but current article lengths suggest to me that it should all be in one. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 20:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mont Brulé → ? – Unlikely that the extra diacritic is sufficient for WP:SMALLDETAILS here. I'm however unsure about a disambiguation tag, since these are both in the Pennine Alps. 162 etc. (talk) 16:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Mont Brûlé → ?
- (Discuss) – Monte Mars → Mont Mars – "Mont Mars" is far more widely sourced on the Internet that "Monte Mars". --Simoncik84 (talk) 13:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Simoncik84 (talk) 12:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Favonian (talk) 09:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Class 360 → Class 360 (disambiguation) – I feel as though that the Class 360 in the UK is the most popular and primary topic hence the rename. One other editor wanted to bring back the class 360 as a disambig page. I think it should go thru a proper RM to change the name again because of the disagreement between editors. JuniperChill (talk) 23:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 10:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Kasai River disaster → 2024 Kwa River disaster – Sources say that this happened on the Kwa River. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:59, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ghiyath al-Din Muhammad I → Ghiyath al-Din Muhammad (Eretnid) – Current title is confusing. There was no "Ghiyath al-Din Muhammad II". He is just Muhammad I of the Eretnids. There was a Muhammad II, but he wasn't a Ghiyath al-Din. Srnec (talk) 18:11, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Execution of Nguyễn Văn Lém → Saigon Execution – This event is notable because of the photo. The photo itself is subject to focused academic study, the photo appeared everywhere on the news and had arguable effects on public opinion, and the photo is the reason anyone even knows this happened. In addition this is a title that is commonly circulated, easier to find than the current descriptive title written ourselves. I'm also not really a fan of the article's use of the word "execution". Sources and draft replacement lead @Ceoil Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 18:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lawrence Roberts (scientist) → Larry Roberts (computer scientist) – Move over redirect to a more common name for the article subject, and a more accurate disambiguator Whizz40 (talk) 17:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Royal Palace (Venice) → Royal Palace of Venice – Consistency, see Royal Palace of Milan as example Gryffindor (talk) 17:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Irish hunger strike → Irish hunger strike (disambiguation) – "1981 Irish hunger strike" is a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC on the basis of page views, so WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT applies. "Irish hunger strike" should redirect to "1981 Irish hunger strike", and the disambiguation page should be at "Irish hunger strike (disambiguation)" Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 16:14, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Life of Chuck (film) → The Life of Chuck – The film is notable enough for its own article, where the underlying novella is not notable enough to have its own article and is adequately covered in the book article If It Bleeds. This is already the approach for the novella "Mr. Harrigan's Phone" (in the same book) whose film adaptation has a standalone article at Mr. Harrigan's Phone. A hatnote at the film article can point to the book article that encompasses the novella. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 13:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shi Ping (politician) → Shi Ping – I recently moved the page Shi Ping from the former aircraft designer to a disambig page due to him being not the only Shi Ping and with seemingly no clear PTOPC. However, this particular Shi Ping was a former politician, soldier and academic who held many notable posts in government and academia, while also being (supposedly) the oldest living person in all of China, seems to be the PTOPIC of this name (he is also the first thing that comes up when looking up Shi Ping for what its worth). Zinderboff(talk) 08:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Shi Ping → Shi Ping (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Cross-Strait relations → Cross-strait relations – MOS:CAPS and MOS:HYPHENCAPS. The words "strait" and "cross" are not proper nouns and should not be capitalized. Google Ngrams show that the term "cross-straight relations" is not consistently capitalized in sources. Previous discussion indicate that vague shortened names should not be capitalized merely to indicate significance – see MOS:SIGNIFCAPS and the fairly recent discussions at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 227#Capitalization of "the Strait", "the Bay", etc. and Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters/Archive 13#Use of capitals in a shortened title. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 06:26, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- History of Cross-Strait relations → History of cross-strait relations
- Cross-Strait charter → Cross-strait charter
- 2004 Taiwanese cross-Strait relations referendum → 2004 Taiwanese cross-strait relations referendum
- Cross-Strait propaganda → Cross-strait propaganda
- Cross-Strait high-level talks → Cross-strait high-level talks
- (Discuss) – Sadh Vaishnavism → Sat Vaishnavism – Spelling correction. The word "Sadh" has no meaning, it's "Sat" meaning "True" in Sanskrit. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 07:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 12:13, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 04:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hong Kong Film Award → Hong Kong Film Awards – The plural form is the one in both common and official usage, including in the article itself and whenever referenced elsewhere on Wikipedia, and makes the most sense given that there are multiple awards. Moreover, pretty much all other awards ceremonies are in the plural (eg, Academy Awards, Golden Horse Awards), so this would be consistent with that; indeed Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals) says that articles about groups of things should be plural, and this is very much a group of awards. Pinging @UnitedStatesian: you moved the article to the singular form a long time ago citing a discussion at WP:NC, and while I was not able to find a discussion post referencing this page, I don't doubt its existence, but I do think its reasoning should be revisited in light of the overwhelming usage to the contrary. In fact I tried to move this page myself but found myself unable to because the plural was previously in use so the page already exists. ChromeGames (talk · contribs) 04:15, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Suhas Pagolu → Suhas (Telugu actor) – The current name is a product from a single database source. No other source uses this name. Meanwhile this new name proves to be more worthwhile [1] vs. [2] DareshMohan (talk) 22:57, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Tube → The Tube (disambiguation) – Move dabpage, and make The Tube a primary redirect to London Underground. 162 etc. (talk) 00:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisted. Renerpho (talk) 01:58, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
June 21, 2024
- (Discuss) – Press Your Luck scandal → Press Your Luck episode, May 19, 1984 – It has been debated whether the title should include the word "scandal". Jax 0677 (talk) 23:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Hajj disaster → 2024 Hajj extreme heat disaster – The current title does not mention extreme heat, which seems to be a principal cause of the disaster (1, 2, 3) (though unregistered pilgrims seem to be a contributing factor (4)). I propose the new title should be 2024 Hajj extreme heat disaster, 2024 Hajj extreme heat, 2024 Hajj heat wave disaster, or 2024 Hajj heat wave. BurqueMesa (talk) 22:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arabian Gulf Champions Cup → GCC Club Cup – The page was moved from its original title of GCC Club Cup without any discussion being had or any source to support the move. I assume this was done because the Arab Gulf Cup Football Federation announced it will be holding a tournament for Gulf clubs, however there is no confirmation of even the name of the tournament yet, let alone whether it will be considered as a continuation of GCC Club Cup or as a new separate tournament. This page needs to be moved back to GCC Club Cup please. Hashim-afc (talk) 22:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TPC Eagle Trace → Eagle Trace Golf Club – The course has not had TPC branding since 2018, therefore the current page title is inaccurate. ArcAngel (talk) 21:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:Keyboard shortcuts → Help:Keyboard shortcuts – Seems more like help for using wikipedia than tips for building wikipedia Aaron Liu (talk) 20:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bale Province, Ethiopia → Bale Province – A disambiguation page is not necessary, per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Socialwave597 (talk) 23:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of flags containing the color purple → Purple in heraldry – The List of flags by color has a section for purple; it is Wikipedia's actual list of flags with purple. This article talks about the meaning of purple in heraldry. Georgia guy (talk) 18:43, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Machine Identification Code → Printer tracking dots – or Tracking dots. Several sources (and the Wikipedia article) refer to these patterns as "tracking dots" or "printer tracking dots", but I have found only one that refers to them as a "machine identification code" (MIC). The one organization that used the MIC term (the Electronic Frontier Foundation) uses lowercase, not title case, and it also does not use the same term consistently (it also calls them "DocuColor tracking dots", "tracking dots", "printer tracking dots", "printer dots", "yellow dots of mystery", "tracking codes", etc.). Ngram analysis shows "tracking dots" more popular than "machine identification code". The Ngram chart also shows substantial pre-2004 use of "machine identification code", which means that the term is also used for other unrelated topics, since the widespread use of these codes wasn't publicly known until 2004. The 2004 PC World article just calls them a "hidden code". I think including "printer" in the name can help make the topic recognizable and clear, since there doesn't seem to really be a very dominant name for the subject. The one possible downside I see for using "printer" in the name is that it could lead to the impression that the codes are used only generated by printers, whereas they are apparently also produced by copiers (although most recent copiers are also printers). — BarrelProof (talk) 19:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alcaeus → Alcaeus (disambiguation) – The Greek lyric poet Alcaeus is the clear primary topic in both likely usage (WP:PT1) and longterm significance (WP:PT2). Likely Usage: There is really no debate that the lyric poet considerably dwarfs the others in page views. He is competing with comparatively niche cultural and mythological personalities; it is telling that all of the other Nine Lyric Poets are named monogamously on Wikipedia (although Simonides of Ceos is not, the name Simonides redirects there regardless). “Alcaeus of Mytilene” is simply not the common name for the lyric poet. Longterm significance: Alcaeus the lyric poet has been canonized in ancient literature, with an oeuvre described as “highly esteemed in the ancient world” ([3]), and an entire lyrical meter named after him (the Alcaic stanza). He is the subject of repeated monographs and studies; the other Alcaeus personages receive no where near this much attention. The previous move request spurred into a tangential analysis of how Alcaeus is presented in classical scholarship. The sources consulted were Brill's New Pauly and the 200 year-old Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology; both do not list the the lyric poet first. Since this is blatant cherrypicking, I’ll have a go myself: the 2014 Oxford Classical Dictionary, more comprehensive and up-to-date than both, lists the lyric poet first. In any case, Wikipedia is not a classical encyclopedia, it is a general encyclopedia. Other general encyclopedias simply call him "Alcaeus" (see Britannica and Oxford Reference) – Aza24 (talk) 18:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nippon TV → Nippon Television – official full company name, matches with the NNS page which mentions NTV's full name VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 15:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Six Flags → Six Flags(1965-2024) – Cedar Fair will be the surviving entity come July 2nd. A merged article would be arguably too long. DisneyAviationRollerCoasterEnthusiast (talk) 14:45, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nazi crimes against the Polish nation → Nazi war crimes in occupied Poland during World War II – Per above - to make it clear this is a subarticle to War crimes in occupied Poland during World War II about Nazi crimes (not Soviet), and move the focus away from the strange phrase "against Polish nation" that does not seem to be commonly used in sources or in the article itself. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Eddie Clarke (musician) → "Fast" Eddie Clarke – I just thought of this from the RM. I think he's definitely better known by his stage name, as like "Weird Al" Yankovic. Rolling Stone obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [4], NPR obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [5], New York Times obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [6], The Guardian obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [7], ABC News obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [8], Pitchfork obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [9], BBC obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [10], Hollywood Reporter obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [11], CBS obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [12], Entertainment Weekly obituary: "Fast" Eddie Clarke [13]. And on and on. This is also a clear case of WP:NATURALDAB, although I would also argue that he'd be primary topic for Eddie Clarke anyway. Note that whether "Fast" Eddie Clarke or Fast Eddie Clarke doesn't really matter to me, but it's the clear common name. --Quiz shows 12:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Justine (de Sade novel) → Justine (Sade novel) – In the French naming custom, the prefix "de" is not considered part of last name and is not capitalized. It is not used when the first name or the title is not used, i.e., it is correct to say "Guy de Maupassant" or "Monsieur de Maupassant," but it is incorrect to say "De Maupassant" by itself. This is not a controversial take, it's linguistic fact found in all articles regarding the topic of French naming conventions. Now, the second question to be settled is whether or not "Sade" is the common English usage as well, like Maupassant is. There are cases like De Gaulle where the incorrect rendering is so prevalent in the English-speaking world that it'd be incorrect to redirect a page to refer to him as "Gaulle." However, it can be argued that this is not the case with Sade. While "De Sade" is also common and may even be found in some (generally older) credible sources (the most important of which is Britannica), almost all prominent works regarding him today refer to the correct last name, Sade. This is also a non-controversial take in my opinion, as it is evident in the writer's own article and the works it mentions or lists as sources (such as the famous "Must we burn Sade?" by Simone de Beauvoir or "Sade, Fourier, Loyola" by the famous Roland Barthes. Even further research (outside the body of Wikipedia itself) would show that most prominent, modern, credible works in English refer to him by the universally correct variant and that it's not obscure by any means. Painfully, it seems that this article was originally titled correctly and it was moved to the current title in 2016, whose "support" which I'm reading now in the talk page includes some very questionable statements (such as "...it is quite rare in sources in that form and is mostly only found in obsolete ones...") and even some blatantly incorrect and clearly refutable ones (such as "...the name used as a human name is de Sade"). Without any intention of speaking ad hominem, it seems highly likely that the people in charge of the 2016 move were neither familiar with French nor with works referring to Sade. P. T. Tabayi (talk) 07:35, 14 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Allspark → Deleted to make way for a move – I just looked at the "Allspark" DAB page and I have a statement (not thought) that the Transformers charater and the entry at the "See also" section can be incubated into a hatnote, which I've already done. What do you think? Intrisit (talk) 08:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Laura Blindkilde → Laura Blindkilde Brown – Based on current sources and recent news reports such as Aston Villa's, we should probably use this proposed title as WP:COMMONNAME. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 07:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – International reactions to the Israel–Hamas war → Reactions to the Israel–Hamas war – the word "international" here seems slightly redundant and meaningless. Josethewikier (talk) 04:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 05:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robert John "Mutt" Lange → Mutt Lange – Previously discussed, most recently in 2013. Current title violates WP:NICKNAME. Known as "Mutt Lange" in reliable sources. 162 etc. (talk) 02:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Temu → Temu (disambiguation) – At almost 10,000 pageviews per day, clearly the primary topic per WP:PT1. Nothing on the dabpage strikes me as particularly notable. 162 etc. (talk) 02:13, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Licentiate of Theology → Licentiate in Theology – Move to the name currently used for the qualification, allowing Licentiate of Theology to become a disambiguation page pointing to the relocated page and the Licentiate of Sacred Theology page. Robminchin (talk) 01:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
June 20, 2024
- (Discuss) – List of surviving Boeing B-29 Superfortresses → List of preserved Boeing B-29 Superfortresses – I would like to make a proposal of this being renamed to List of preserved Boeing B-29 Superfortresses since there could be some B-29s that were preserved but were scrapped during preservation. Airbus A320-100 (talk) 06:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 16:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dina (disambiguation) → Dina – Dina is just a redirect to Dina (disambiguation). No incoming links Special:WhatLinksHere/Dina showing some special meanings. MrKeefeJohn (talk) 07:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 16:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – KiKA → Kika (television channel) – Unnecessary stylisation, worthy of a mention in the article but not fit for the title. No consistently used spelling method is in place: Kika and KiKa are both common variations and are used by media outlets ([14], [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26]). The official stylistic choice has also been subject to change over the years, i.e. when KI.KA turned into the current KiKA. Per MOS:TMRULES, the best and least conflicting way to approach this would be using sentence case. Agwjkl (talk) 16:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Pune car crash → 2024 Pune Porsche car crash – The word "Porsche" is a big identifier of this case - the brand of the car crashed is a big assosciation and that is how the case is often talked about in the media. People know it as the "Pune Porsche" case rather than the "2024 Pune car crash". Hence, for this article and this case, I believe the word Porsche should be added. The article thumbnail contains all references, more can be researched. To help my case, the article's thumbnail image is already the Porsche car model. Pharaoh496 (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – National Democratic Party of Germany → Die Heimat (political party) – When a party changes its name, it seems more than natural to rename the page too. Current English-language sources on the party refer to it by its new original name, Die Heimat, which should therefore be the title of the page. It doesn't seem sensible to me to keep a name that has been abandoned for a year now. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 13:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma → Louis Mountbatten – Move to match policy. WP:COMMONNAME is most certainly not the tortuous and tautological "Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma". WP:NCBRITPEER states [use the title except] for 1)
Peers who are almost exclusively known by their personal names, e.g. Bertrand Russell (not "Bertrand Russell, 3rd Earl Russell").
, and also 2)When one holder of a title is overwhelmingly the best known: e.g. Alfred, Lord Tennyson and Lord Byron.
Lord Louis Mountbatten would also be an acceptable title. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sand Pebbles → Sand Pebbles (rock band) – No indication that The Sand Pebbles (novel) is primary over Best Picture Oscar-nominated The Sand Pebbles (film). Both The Sand Pebbles and The Sandpebbles can redirect to the proposed Sand Pebbles disambiguation page. If consensus skews towards moving The Sand Pebbles (film) → The Sand Pebbles, I would also support such a primary topic option. Another primary novel / film nomination is currently active at Talk:The Ice Storm (film)#Requested move 17 June 2024. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Farhang Khosro Panah → Farhang Khosropanah – It's not really a controversial move. in his surname "panah" is a suffix, not a separate word. but one source put a space between them and the others simply copy/pasted the same mistake. two major sources write his name correctly instead, 1948 Olympics official report, page 437 and International shooting federation. Sports2021 (talk) 00:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
June 19, 2024
- (Discuss) – LGBT in the United States (disambiguation) → LGBT in the United States – Based on this ongoing discussion. --MikutoH talk! 23:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:TSGN and SE Stations → Template:Railway stations served by Govia Thameslink Railway – While a move is required to remove the unnecessary caps in "Stations", the move will also make the naming convention of this template consistent with other TOC station templates, as indicated by the consensus reached at the RM at Template talk:Railway stations served by c2c. The suggested title stems from the fact that Thameslink, Southern, and Great Northern are all a part of Govia Thameslink. At the same time, I'd like to request the Southeastern content be split into a new template called Template:Railway stations served by Southeastern for the same reasons. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 23:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:SWT Stations → Template:Railway stations served by South Western Railway – While a move is required to remove the unnecessary caps in "Stations", the move will also make the naming convention of this template consistent with other TOC station templates, as indicated by the consensus reached at the RM at Template talk:Railway stations served by c2c. The last TfD for the intended title is here, and if successful, a consensus here would solve the issues raised by that discussion. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 23:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Clapham Junction → Clapham Junction (area) – This is a very clear scenario where the area is named after the train station, not the other way round. At least the first two pages on Google for "Clapham Junction" [27] are about the station, not the area. The station is clearly the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Then we can redirect this page to Clapham Junction railway station as I'm pretty sure it's a naming convention to put "station"/"railway station" after a station name on Wikipedia (even for "junction" stations). —Matrix(!) {user - talk? -
uselesscontributions} 18:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Taskmaster (TV series) → Taskmaster (British TV series) – Insufficient disambiguation; see Taskmaster (American TV series). 162 etc. (talk) 18:14, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pavel Kotov → Pavel Kotov (disambiguation) – The tennis player is the clear primary topic for this name, with ~6000 monthly pageviews (and growing) compared to 17 and 6 for the other 2 sportsmen with the same name [28]. Iffy★Chat -- 15:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Foxley → Foxley, Norfolk – Yet another disambig without a primary topic, as evidenced by page views. The village of Foxley in Norfolk is hardly the only place listed (there are five others). Duckmather (talk) 15:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jinder Mahal → Raj Dhesi – Yuvraj is currently using his ring name Raj Dhesi, since he left WWE and returned to independent circuit in 2024. Anonymy365248 (talk) 13:02, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Asian Men's Volleyball Challenge Cup → AVC Men's Challenge Cup – Per WP:UCRN, the article's cited sources refer to the event tournament either as the AVC Men's Challenge Cup or the AVC Challenge Cup for Men, never as the Asian Men's Volleyball Challenge Cup. Also, per WP:CONCISE, inserting the word "Volleyball" is unnecessary as it produces a redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 02:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:24, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Asian Women's Volleyball Challenge Cup → AVC Women's Challenge Cup – This move request requires a technical move, as the proposed new title already exists as a redirect page. The reason for the move is per WP:UCRN, as the article's cited sources refer to the event tournament either as the AVC Women's Challenge Cup or the AVC Challenge Cup for Women, never as the Asian Women's Volleyball Challenge Cup. And per WP:CONCISE, inserting the word "Volleyball" is unnecessary as it produces a redundancy. Bagoto (talk) 02:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:24, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Public Sector Undertakings in India → Public Sector Undertakings – Redundant natural dab as there's no other article with the same title. It is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Besides, the name is exclusively used in India alone. 2409:4073:4DC3:7C3B:5CDA:ABCB:B969:9871 (talk) 10:02, 3 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 10:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Haymarket railway station → Haymarket station (Edinburgh) – Since Edinburgh Trams served Haymarket station for ten years, why hasn't it been renamed yet? WP:UKSTATION. JuniperChill (talk) 19:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:05, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Brighton hotel bombing → Brighton bomb – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Sources overwhelmingly use the name ‘the Brighton bomb’ to deal with this event. While there is some use of ‘Brighton hotel bombing’, these are much less common. Support the move, of course. - SchroCat (talk) 02:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gubbi Gubbi people → Kabi Kabi people – Per above discussion and new information added to the article. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vice-President of Malawi → Vice President of Malawi – that is the official name as per Malawi's government's website at https://www.malawi.gov.mw/index.php/parliament/cabinets# Josethewikier (talk) 04:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Alex Ellis → Alex Ellis (racing driver) – not WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per page views Joeykai (talk) 04:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque missile strike → Ibrahim al-Maqadma Mosque attack – It is not at all clear that what happened was the result of missiles launched by a manned aircraft. Forward quotes lieutenant colonel in the Israel army calling it "a drone attack", while The Guardian blames "Israeli shells" and "artillery fire" for the attack. An article in the Journal of Palestine Studies also calls it "shelling". The most detailed account is given in the Goldstone report as "The attack on the al-Maqadmah mosque".VR (Please ping on reply) 04:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pemberton Ferry, Florida → Croom, Florida – Croom is the current correct name of the forner community. Pemberton Ferry is the old name, and the renames to Pemberton Ferry and Pemberton Ferry, Florida should be reverted. -----User:DanTD (talk) 14:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:54, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – CHCO-DT → CHCO-TV – No record of callsign change, even with switch to digital Mvcg66b3r (talk) 19:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Judicial disqualification → Recusal – Most common term for this concept, most accurate term for this concept since the article and the idea is not limited to justices, and 4/4 editors on talk page so far agree Superb Owl (talk) 22:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). --Ahecht (talk) 17:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Urfa sanjak → Urfa Sanjak – Consistent with other articles on Ottoman sanjaks. See articles within Category:Sanjaks of the Ottoman Empire. Scholarship uses both lowercase and uppercase letters and actually appears to favor uppercase more. Aintabli (talk) 20:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:52, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Slowpoke → Slowpoke (disambiguation) – No obvious competition for primary topic. Everything else is either a WP:PTM, different per WP:SMALLDETAILS, or has no article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 00:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
June 18, 2024
- (Discuss) – Come On Down (disambiguation) → Come on Down – No article with this name. -- Jax 0677 (talk) 21:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ABC News → ABC News (United States) – Australia's ABC News is its national broadcaster and is its most widely watched newscast. The Australian broadcaster reaches 8 digit levels of people on a weekly basis, while the U.S. company averages around 7 million on nightly newscasts. And, in absolute terms, Australia's ABS is quite a major news organization. I don't think the U.S. subsidiary of Disney is more of a WP:PTOPIC here, so I propose moving this to the proposed target and moving ABC News (disambiguation) to take over this page's title. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 20:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shoop → Shoop (disambiguation) – 30+ years on, the long-term notability of this hit song is clearly established. Also this is the only article listed at the disambiguation page that sees any kind of traffic.[29] 162 etc. (talk) 18:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Michael Cusack → Michael Cusack (disambiguation) – Per WP:PTOPIC, this page has been getting a hundred times the views of all other pages with such name consistently, demonstrating that at this moment, it is definitely the primary topic when it comes to Michael Cusacks. Zinderboff(talk) 08:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jackie Young (basketball) → Jackie Young – There are only two people named Jackie Young, and the other person gets 1 pageview per day. The basketball player is the primary topic, making the title "Jackie Young (basketball)" totally unnecessary. Helpfulwikieditoryay (talk) 06:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Jackie Young → Jackie Young (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Jutish → Jutlandic – I'm requesting a move to the new article, along with its associated talk page, because while the terms "Jutish" and "Jutlandic" can be synonyms and refer to either anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes', anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark, the terms "Jute", "Jutish" and "Jutic" normally refer to anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes' (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jute, Jutish and Jutic), while the terms "Jutlandic" and "Jutlandish" normally refer to anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jutlandic and Jutlandish), while the term "Jutlander" normally refers to anyone from the Jutland peninsula in Denmark (according to the entry on Wiktionary). But this definitely warrants further discussion. It seems we have five options here: # Retain the status quo, with the disambiguation page as the primary topic, # Move Jutlandic dialect to Jutlandic and retarget Jutish to Jutes, # Retarget Jutlandic to Jutish, # Move Jutish to Jutlandic and then do either of the following: :: a. retarget Jutish to Jutlandic, :: b. retarget Jutish to Jutes My personal preference is (4b), to move Jutish to Jutlandic and then retarget Jutish to Jutes, so I've styled the RM that way. But editors are also free to suggest whichever option they want in this RM. PK2 (talk) 03:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Digital Light Processing → Digital light processing – Per MOS:CAPS, WP:NCCAPS, MOS:EXPABBR. This is not a proper name, it's an improper over-capitalization of something generic just because capital letters are in the acronym, which is against the guidelines. In fact, this is virtually the same example as the first one that appears at MOS:EXPABBR. DLP is in the same category as LCD, LED, DSP, etc. – generic technologies. It is not like HTML, NTSC, CUDA, and IBM which are (both in abbreviated and full form) proper names, being trademarked standards, product lines, or company names; nor another sort of proper-name acronym/initialism like ANZAC, ACLU, NASA, or USSR. NB: The lower-case version already redirects here, so there is no disambiguation issue to solve. 2001:5A8:4260:3100:C444:87AF:E299:2F41 (talk) 02:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Randolph House (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) → Laurel Hill Mansion (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania) – It seems unreasonable to me to keep the old name of this mansion as the article title. 333fortheain (talk) 23:30, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Emerging Infectious Diseases (journal) → Emerging Infectious Diseases – WP:PRECISE, WP:CONCISE, WP:DAB. Short title already redirects here, so the long one is unnecessary "pre-emptive disambiguation" of a title that is not ambiguous. 2001:5A8:4260:3100:C444:87AF:E299:2F41 (talk) 01:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
June 17, 2024
- (Discuss) – Exit strategy (disambiguation) → Exit Strategy – Since all other "Exit Strategy" entries use an uppercase "S", so should the disambiguation page main title header. Users researching titles of films, novels or albums will type "Exit Strategy", while those who type "Exit strategy" will see the hatnote pointing to the Exit Strategy dab page. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lineage Logistics → Lineage (company) – Lineage Logistics rebranded to Lineage in April 2024, as evidenced by sources including Food Logistics and CNBC (source; source). Following Wikipedia's naming conventions, the page should reflect the current and most recognized name of the company to ensure accuracy and consistency. Mrmctorso (talk) 18:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zuya (disambiguation) → Zuya – Zuya is just a redirect to Zuya (disambiguation). No incoming links Special:WhatLinksHere/Zuya showing some special meanings. MrKeefeJohn (talk) 20:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Jeffrey Northrup → R. v. Zameer – The event of Northrup's death is fundamentally the core issue surrounding the trial of Crown v. Zameer, which realistically should be the primary topic on this matter. This topic should fundamentally be about that with the inclusion of Northrup's death and additional details in their totality, not a cursory discussion around just the LEO's death. That presents an undesirable bias centered on the LEO and not on any other substantial issues produced by and/or resultant of the death/trial (notably criticism of the Crown's arguments and theories by the judicial system, possible evidence of collusion admist Crown witnesses, jury instructions, etc). The fact that the trial has concluded, there exists extensive reporting through both legal filings and multiple media sources to substantiate a much more thorough representation of the event described and its greater consequences (as evidenced by judicial and jury outcomes and public discussion). Himay81 (talk) 19:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Thammudu (film) → Thammudu – Despite what the disambiguation page says, Thammudu only refers to this film. DareshMohan (talk) 18:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thammudu → Thammudu (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – 2024 Oregon House of Representatives election → 2024 Oregon House of Representatives elections – similar to 2024 United States House of Representatives elections, shouldn't it be plural because its technically multiple elections for each seat? cookie monster 755 04:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – AFC Champions League → AFC Champions League Elite – New name of the competition for the upcoming 2024–25 season (1, 2, 3) Snowflake91 (talk) 14:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – PBS NewsHour → PBS News Hour – Following last week's rebrand (https://www.newscaststudio.com/2024/06/10/pbs-news-rebranding/), "News Hour" is now two different words. JE98 (talk) 14:42, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Danilo Guades → 2007 Calbayog spree killings – He is only known for one event, the 2007 Calbayog spree killings, automatically failing Wikipedia:BLP1E. TheNuggeteer (talk) 12:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – France–Africa relations → Africa–France relations – Alphabetic order — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 05:15, 14 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 11:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Western Desert (Egypt) → Western Desert – The Western Desert in Iraq has a different title, making this the primary topic. PhotographyEdits (talk) 10:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Western Desert → Western Desert (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Twitter under Elon Musk → X (social network) – See Talk:Twitter#Requested move 17 May 2024 elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Ice Storm → The Ice Storm (novel) – According to pageviews, The movie article has been viewed daily by hundreds of readers; the novel one, less than one hundred daily. The film should be the primary topic of the title using "The". (Ice storm warning may not count.) Alternatively, the dabpage should take over the base title if neither is proven to be primary topic. George Ho (talk) 08:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ford Evos (concept car) → Ford Evos – This is currently the only page with the name. The Evos crossover has been renamed the Mondeo Sport. Fixer88 (talk) 05:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – BYD Company → BYD – and BYD should be moved BYD (disambiguation), as the other uses for "BYD" are either uncommon abbreviations (for example, there is no mention of BYD being an abbreviation for Bury Your Dead in its article), or code-related (NYSE and station code). Also, WikiNav data shows that most people are looking for BYD Company or its largest subsidiary BYD Auto. Andra Febrian (talk) 04:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- BYD → BYD (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- (Discuss) – Table of General Standard Chinese Characters → List of Commonly Used Standard Chinese Characters – "General" is an unnatural translation for 通用, which means "commonly used" or perhaps "in general use". I wouldn't be able to understand the current translation without additional context. The English title of the related document Stroke Orders of the Commonly Used Standard Chinese Characters is official, and it would make most sense to reflect that for consistency. The Chinese word 表 is admittedly ambiguous. I'm not tied to using "list" instead of "table", but I understand the document as a numbered list, not a table; that is, I don't think the document is meant to draw meaningful correspondences between the numbers and the characters, but merely to list them out with indices. Also, List of Commonly Used Characters in Modern Chinese has been translated as "list" (and as "commonly used"), and I think we should maintain consistency by renaming one of the articles. pacificboy (talk) 04:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Atakapa → Atakapa-Ishak – The people are referred to as the Atakapa, the Ishak, and the Atakapa-Ishak. Referring to them as simply Atakapa or Ishak doesn't make since in that context. As well, they are referred to Atakapa-Ishak by media sources (https://www.texasobserver.org/mapping-indigenous-communities-of-texas-atakapa-ishak/, https://64parishes.org/keyword/atakapa-ishak-nation) and by the major tribal organization (https://www.atakapa-ishaknationofswla.org/); MiniYaChi (talk) 21:29, 13 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). MiniYaChi (talk) 04:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Three Musketeers (game) → Three musketeers (game) – Per WP:GAMECAPS, we don't cap game names unless they are trademarked (e.g. product names), as Dungeons & Dragons is. This one is not (I search the US trademark database, and didn't it). It's more like Texas hold 'em. Dicklyon (talk) 01:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 03:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of bus routes in Perth, Western Australia → List of bus routes in Perth – By consensus of other article names such as Perth, Buses in Perth, Railways in Perth - the primary topic for "Perth" is the Australian city and not the Scottish city. Hence, this article name doesn't need disambiguation. I would add a hatnote linking to Public transport in Perth and Kinross#Bus though. Fork99 (talk) 02:52, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Filip Turek → Filip Turek (ice hockey) – Filip Turek (racer) has just been elected to the European Parliament, so (racer) is now a misleading disambiguator, and this is probably also a case of the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC shifting in his favour over the ice hockey player. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 23:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 02:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ray Brown (Negro leagues pitcher) → Ray Brown (baseball) – Per WP:INCDAB a move discussion is necessary. INCDAB states:
In individual cases consensus may determine that a parenthetically disambiguated title that is still ambiguous has a primary topic, but the threshold for identifying a primary topic for such titles is higher than for a title without parenthetical disambiguation. As with any other term with a primary topic, it should either be the title of the article for that topic or redirect to it.
There are 2 Ray Brown baseball players, both pitchers: this one, a Hall of Fame Negro league pitcher; and Ray Brown (National League pitcher) who pitched 1 game for the Cubs in 1909. The pageviews (Negro league pitcher & Natinal League pitcher) over the last year are 3428:170, or ~20:1, which is about what it takes according to List of reported partially disambiguated article titles and their characteristics. I am arguing this Ray Brown is the primary baseball player topic (under WP:PT1) becauseit is highly likely [...] to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term
. -- BX (talk) 00:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
June 16, 2024
- (Discuss) – Sahaj (disambiguation) → Sahaj – No other article with this name. Jax 0677 (talk) 23:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ae Fond Kiss → Ae Fond Kiss (disambiguation) – Move to primary topic, undoing a poorly-attended RM from earlier this year. Clear long-term notability advantage over the film and album. 162 etc. (talk) 21:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:17, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 22:59, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kerma → Kerma (city) – proposal at Talk:Kerma kingdom#Requested move 9 June 2024 to move Kerma culture to Kerma with this page specifying the city/archaeological site Alexanderkowal (talk) 22:56, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – History of the People's Republic of China (1949–1976) → History of China (1949–1976) – These articles are in line with the history of China which primarily is the People's Republic of China. Interstellarity (talk) 22:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – IMP. → IMP (group) – The group's name is short for their previous name, "Impactors" but is also pronounced as an acronym now. The period seems to be a stylization and should be removed per MOS:JAPAN#Titles of media. lullabying (talk) 22:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 22:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – DiCaprio (disambiguation) → DiCaprio – No article with this name. Jax 0677 (talk) 21:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Clapeyron's theorem (elasticity) → Clapeyron's theorem – If this is the WP:PRITOP for "Clapeyron's theorem", then it should be at that title. If it isn't, then Clapeyron's theorem should be converted from a redirect into a disambiguation page. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:05, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bashira (film) → Bashira – Per the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 29#Bashira moved here:
...With that being said, I am neutral in this discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 21:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Move Bashira (film) to Bashira, as the article about the film at least has citations and seems more notable than the newspaper in Iraq which had zero sources for 16 years and which we weren't able to find any sources for now. If/when sources are found for the newspaper, the article could be recreated as Bashira (newspaper). Cielquiparle (talk) 21:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mezhdunarodnaya (Moscow Metro) → Moskva-Siti (Moscow Metro) – The station was officially renamed on 31 March 2024 212.3.130.205 (talk) 15:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). ASUKITE 13:57, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:42, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Re:SET Concert Series → Re:Set Concert Series – Alternatively, Reset Concert Series; minus the colon, which I'm not sure how we should handle regarding stylization. I think it could be taken as having a double meaning ("set" as in a concert; see sense 18 here) which could affect how it should be presented. Regardless, the capitalization should change, but I want additional opinions on the punctuation before anything changes. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – October 2012 Beirut bombing → Assassination of Wissam al-Hassan – per WP:CRITERIA and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC; nearly every article I've seen about this bombing either explicitly mentions Wissam al-Hassan outright, or say that it killed a high-level Lebanese official as a reference to him (with some sources in this very article calling it an assassination). It's pretty clear that this fact is by far the most significant aspect of the bombing, and changing the title to something that mentions al-Hassan would be an easy way to make this article distinguishable from the many other Beirut bombings. XTheBedrockX (talk) 08:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – ASAP (TV program) → ASAP Natin 'To – Current exact title of the program, and not ASAP. ScarletViolet (talk • contribs) 13:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:37, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Caffè macchiato → Macchiato – This is the proper English name, as the current title is in Italian. R.L (talk) 01:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). R.L (talk) 14:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 14:15, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:37, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Frisco Station → ? – Opening as a procedural matter as article has been moved many times, so we should figure out a stable article title. More details: I granted OrdinaryScarlett's technical move request (permalink) to revert undiscussed moves from the last longstanding title. Usually I would have declined as the last move was in 2023, but this was to correct a misspelling in the article title. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 11:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:37, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bill Jones (American football coach) → Bill Jones (American football coach, Indiana State) – avoid confusion with Bill Jones (American football coach, Notre Dame) Joeykai (talk) 14:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 17:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:35, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Order of the Nation (political party) → Conservative Right Party – Order of the Nation – Current name pf the party, see https://aplikace.mvcr.cz/seznam-politickych-stran/Vypis_Rejstrik.aspx?id=369 2A00:11B1:1045:9E4E:2BB:C367:F85B:5D85 (talk) 21:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 11:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 18:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:34, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tony Kemp (baseball) → Tony Kemp – Primary topic per pageviews.[30] A hatnote link back to the Anthony Kemp dabpage will take care of any possible confusion. 162 etc. (talk) 19:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:34, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Densha Otaku → Densha otaku – It's not a proper noun; shouldn't in title case, should be in sentence case. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 05:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:37, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kerma kingdom → Kingdom of Kerma – Requested move, misuse of WP:PROD on the redirect. More consistent with English grammar than the current title. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:28, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Unified list of Indigenous minority peoples of the North, Siberia, and the Far East of Russia → Unified list of indigenous minority peoples of the North, Siberia, and the Far East of Russia – Here "indigenous" is a common adjective, not the proper name,merely stating the fact that these people lived there until Russian Empire grabbed their land - Altenmann >talk 00:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:11, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Premier of the People's Republic of China → Premier of China – Per the recent move of the President of the People's Republic of China article to the President of China. When people are searching for the "premier/vice premier/vice president of China", they are most certainly searching for the premier/vice premier/vice president of the PRC, meaning WP:COMMONNAME and Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC applies. The Account 2 (talk) 08:12, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Premier of China → Premier of China (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Vice President of the People's Republic of China → Vice President of China
- Vice President of China → Vice President of China (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
- Vice Premier of the People's Republic of China → Vice Premier of China
- (Discuss) – Fairfield Metro station → Fairfield–Black Rock station – I already moved it back, but the previous user undid my edit stating the app doesn't reflect the new station name of "FairField-Black Rock". FlushingLocal (talk) 13:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nagi Yanagi → yanaginagi – current name is wrong, see above for explanation, I cannot move it as I am not autoconfirmed, please make the "y" in the name small letter if possible, thank you. Sohryu Asuka Langley Not Shikinami (talk) 09:41, 26 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 14:17, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 20:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fraser Island → K'gari – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGES. While this is a contentious topic and it has been just under a year since the most recent move request, I believe it is time to finally make this change. Since the island was officially renamed to K'gari in June 2023 the new name has been overwhelmingly used in sources that talk about the island. I have manually assessed each result in a google news search for both names since the change took place (there have been a lot of dingo attacks...). Of the 353 results, 317 primarily use the name K'gari, and a further 30 either use a dual name or use K'gari equally with Fraser Island. Only 6 sources used Fraser Island on its own, indicating a clear preference for the new name in news sources posted after the name has been changed. Crucially, the preference for the new name is strong across all sources, and in international examples - it's not just one or two outlets frequently posting and skewing the results. Many of the articles do mention that Fraser Island is the former name, but this is typically a passing reference in an article that otherwise demonstrates a preference for K'gari. I also manually assessed google scholar results for this year, and after filtering out a lot of false positives, duplicates, and sources which only had the names used as part of the references (mostly Google getting caught out by authors named K. Gari) I was left with 42 articles. Interestingly, an equal number used K'gari as used Fraser Island (15 each), with 7 either using a dual name or using the names an equal amount. However, the majority of articles were passing references which used the island as a navigational point (eg. "the coast north of K'gari") or as one of several locations (eg. "Specimens were found in the Blue Mountains, the Whitsundays, and Fraser Island"). Articles which focused primarily on the island itself tended to use K'gari, with the total count of references for each name across the academic sources coming in with K'gari at 230 vs. Fraser Island at 69 - again, indicating a stronger usage of the new name. WP:NAMECHANGES states that
If the reliable sources written after the change is announced routinely use the new name, Wikipedia should follow suit and change relevant titles to match.
The above unambiguously demonstrates that sources written after the change routinely use the new name, and make a strong case that the WP:COMMONNAME of the island is now K'gari - which we should reflect. The most recent move closure saw that usage had shifted and there were grounds to move as of July 2023, but that scholar sources still used Fraser Island predominantly. This has now shifted, with usage even stronger in favour of K'gari. I would also note (as I have seen it come up in previous moves) that the sources used in this are reliable, English sources - WP:USEENGLISH states that we should use the name used in English sources, not that the name needs to be English in origin. As such, the proposed title is still compliant with that. Turnagra (talk) 04:20, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nova Direita → New Right (Portugal) – WP:EN. English names are preferred for all political parties. Curiously, this page already opens with the name in English. This very simple name is easily and uncontroversially translated to English, as opposed to more interpretive names like Sumar and La France Insoumise. Sources using this name in English (within brackets or outright) include [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] Unknown Temptation (talk) 12:15, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Environmental damage caused by the Israel–Hamas war → Environmental impact of the Israel–Hamas war – As noted in #Suggested rename above, there is well-established precedent for naming these types of articles Environmental impact of .... This is a more neutral description than Environmental damage of ..., as required by WP:NDESC. @Vice regent @Amakuru @Launchballer @Bruxton @Schwede66 @Lightburst @SafariScribe all of whom were involved in previous discussons of this topic. RoySmith (talk) 16:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 17:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sri Lankan state-sponsored colonization schemes → Sinhalese colonization – The current article title is too broad compared to the content, which focuses solely on contested colonization schemes in the north and east where Sinhalese were settled. There are many "Sri Lankan state-sponsored colonization schemes" throughout Sri Lanka, including in the wet-zone, and there schemes where Tamils were the majority of colonists. SinhalaLion (talk) 16:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2MASS J19383260+4603591 → Kepler-451 – For consistency with all other stars with planets discovered by Kepler. New title fits all criteria for article titles, it is natural, recognizable, precise, concise and consistent. Old title is not natural concise, and consistent. 21 Andromedae (talk) 16:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2MASS J09393548−2448279 → 2MASS 0939−2448 – No one will search for this star using the full designation. 21 Andromedae (talk) 15:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Finnish government formation, 2011 → 2011 Finnish government formation – Matching the style of other government formations (See Category:Cabinet formation) Dajasj (talk) 15:21, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Chairperson → Chairman – "Chairperson" has almost negligible usage compared to "Chairman" [36]. This page should be titled "Chairman" which is the indisputable common name of this article unless another term surpasses it in future. Besides, per WP:NATURALNESS, we should be using the term that readers are most likely to search for, which per Google trends [37] is also chairman, with "chairperson" again having almost negligible searches in comparison. Lastly, the term "chairman" is gender-neutral which you can see in the Oxford Dictionary definition. PadFoot2008 14:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Bremen Town Musicians (film) → The Bremen Town Musicians (1969 film) – Same year title for "The Bremen Town Musicians". 49.150.0.134 (talk) 11:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bremenskiye muzykanty → The Bremen Town Musicians (2023 film) – Per WP:USEENGLISH. 49.150.0.134 (talk) 11:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Together (coalition) → Ensemble (political coalition) – I don't recall seeing the coalition named as "Together" anywhere. I renamed it to its current name, thinking that all French pages used English translations (which I was mistaken). As a result, I've found more references to it being called Ensemble than Together.[38][39][40][41][42][43] ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 09:45, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Milnor conjecture → Milnor conjecture (K-theory) – Based on pageviews, it is no longer clear that this is the primary topic over Milnor conjecture (Ricci curvature). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Favonian (talk) 09:07, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Brat (Charli XCX album) → Brat (album) – WP:PTOPIC. Brat (Nnamdï album) received 1,283 pageviews last year (as well as being questionable in notability), while Brat (Charli XCX album) has gotten over a quarter of a million views in the past 10 days. Any recent views the Nnamdï album has gotten lines up with the Charli XCX album releasing and is purely for the association. Koopastar (talk) 06:53, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – George Floyd Square → George Perry Floyd Square – official name and common name Josethewikier (talk) 06:49, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – History of the United States (1776–1789) → History of the United States from 1776 to 1789 – These date ranges are an integral part of the identification of the subject matter. They look like disambiguation terms, but that's not what they are. No one would refer to any of these subjects as the "History of the United States". Each of these articles covers only a small part of the history of the United States. — BarrelProof (talk) 00:05, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- History of the United States (1789–1815) → History of the United States from 1789 to 1815
- History of the United States (1815–1849) → History of the United States from 1815 to 1849
- History of the United States (1849–1865) → History of the United States from 1849 to 1865
- History of the United States (1865–1917) → History of the United States from 1865 to 1917
- History of the United States (1917–1945) → History of the United States from 1917 to 1945
- History of the United States (1945–1964) → History of the United States from 1945 to 1964
- History of the United States (1964–1980) → History of the United States from 1964 to 1980
- History of the United States (1980–1991) → History of the United States from 1980 to 1991
- History of the United States (1991–2008) → History of the United States from 1991 to 2008
- History of the United States (2008–present) → History of the United States from 2008 to present
June 15, 2024
- (Discuss) – Disposable and discretionary income → Disposable income – More common usage. Literature search for "Disposable and discretionary income" gives few hits. HudecEmil (talk) 22:37, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bejte → Bejtexhi – Albanian bejte just means ‘bayt, couplet’ (the Albanian article "Bejte" is connected to "Bayt (poetry)"). The common name in Albanian and English for the poet who writes such couplets is bejtexhi (also, it should be singular, like "Troubadour" and similar articles). Givennames (talk) 21:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Elapsed listings
- (Discuss) – James V of Scotland → James V – The Scottish king appears to be the WP:PRIMARYMEANING of "James V". Векочел (talk) 17:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Cremastra (talk) 20:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Battle of El Fasher → Siege of El Fasher – .. FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:39, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Backlog
- (Discuss) – Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Sexual violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – Gender-based violence is defined as "any type of harm that is perpetrated against a person or group of people because of their factual or perceived sex, gender, sexual orientation and/or gender identity".[1] It is not currently clear that this article deals with any such violence other than that of a sexual nature, and even then, the lede states that male Israelis were also subjected to sexual violence (which if true suggests that it was not gender-based). A previous discussion on this topic has also shown that many people do not understand what the term "gender-based violence" actually means, so whether including it in the title is usefully descriptive is quite questionable.
References
- ^ "What is gender-based violence? - Gender Matters". Council of Europe.
- TRCRF22 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 15:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – TOPS System → Total posterior spine system – I don't believe WP:ACROTITLE is suitable, most RS seem to introduce by the full name first, and the abbreviation seems to be ambiguous with at least some other uses. There are a few possible title options though, and I'm less sure about the case. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ponwar cattle → Ponwar – unnecessary disambiguator no need to add extra disambiguation as it's a primary topic. 2404:3100:181C:6939:1:0:DC2B:E37E (talk) 08:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:43, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sloboda → Sloboda (settlement) – This word means "freedom" in the original Slavic languages, and while there is a significant usage in Russian and Ukrainian history as well as some usage in modern-day Russian administrative divisions, described at this presumed primary topic, its usage and long-term significance does not actually overshadow the ambiguity over the other uses of the word for the average English reader. In preparation for this move, I went through the list of ~200 incoming links to preemptively disambiguate them. The usage is typically clerical, to explain the strange term, which is most commonly placed in italics. This indicates that the fact that the explanation was directly at "sloboda" was a very easy way to get the etymological explanation. However, that's a possible description of editor behavior, which is not necessarily the reader behavior (WP:RF). It should also be noted that Russian toponymy lists are quite weird from the perspective of a navigation purpose for set indices, with an apparent habit of linking these kinds of terms contrary to what MOS:DABONE would advise. It's not that I'm opposed to having a link somewhere in such a set index to explain the term, but the volume of this skews the statistics. After going through the list, I was left with 19 links (~10%) where I couldn't identify a clear connection to this particular subject. Mostly they seemed to be generic references to the Slavic word for "freedom". This also extended to Russian topics. Some were references to specific places named Sloboda, not the concept. I had also disambiguated numerous others by linking Foobar Svoboda instead of keeping a largely useless partial link (sadly I didn't keep a count of these to be able to note the percentage). A search in Google Books for me does not identify this meaning to be primary - I get more references to people named this way. Likewise for Google Scholar. I don't have reason to believe that this would differ for the average English reader. WikiNav for Sloboda and meta:Research:Wikipedia clickstream archive indicate that the hatnote is consistently one of the most commonly clicked links on the page - even in months where we see a larger readership, it's still among the most commonly clicked links (for example in March '24, with 162 clickstreams to 9 identified destinations, the hatnote was #3 with 17). This is typically indicative of a navigation issue. Another editor reverted the initial preparatory move, thinking this broke links (it did not) and saying this changes a 'long established' status quo - I don't see an actual rationale there. Just because this grew organically as is - doesn't mean it's not subject to evaluation and adjustment. In addition, similar terms like svoboda and swoboda are not short-circuiting here and are indeed disambiguated, so this change would seem to make things more consistent. Joy (talk) 23:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Philip of Sweden → Philip, King of Sweden – Per consistency with other Swedish kings who were without a regnal number, such as Birger, King of Sweden, Valdemar, King of Sweden, and Albert, King of Sweden. 2601:249:9301:D570:940A:52B5:CCA9:A4A3 (talk) 04:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Slatina protests → Death of Flavius Magraon – This looks more notable, in any case. The article should be centered on the main event and not on the protests that were a consequence of it. The death of a person is also more relevant than seemingly small and unconsequential (beyond the local level) protests. This title format, consistent with other articles, also puts the scope onto the person who was a professional footballer which is something that can be written more about in the article. Super Ψ Dro 23:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Polish–Russian War (1605–1618) → Russo-Polish War (1609–1618) – Sources tend to put the start date of the war to 1609 [44][45], when there was a declaration of war, excluding invasions in the preceding years. This is also consistent with and , as well as consistent with Russo-Polish War (1654–1667). Mellk (talk) 19:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Parachromis managuensis → Jaguar cichlid – So, the last time a name change for this article has been discussed was back in 2007 (see "article title" up above). This article used to be named "Managuense cichlid," but was later changed to the Latin name and current title, Parachromis managuensis, on the basis that it was the least ambiguous epithet for the species. Which is true. Latin names are almost always less ambiguous than vernacular names, but they're almost never as concise or recognizable - for the same reason we have articles named Great white shark and Largemouth bass rather than Carcharodon carcharias and Micropterus salmoides, I'm going to propose that this article be renamed to Jaguar cichlid. For the WP:CRITERIA of recognizability and naturalness, I present the Google Search results for the names listed in the article's lede (in order from most hits to least): * "jaguar cichlid": ~93,700 results * "parachromis managuensis": ~40,900 results * "jaguar guapote": ~9,680 results * "managuense cichlid": ~8,720 results * "guapote tigre": ~8,640 results * "aztec cichlid": ~4,090 results * "managua cichlid": ~1,470 results * "spotted guapote": ~812 results "Jaguar cichlid" is more than twice as prevalent on the web as the Latin name. It's nearly a full order of magnitude more prevalent than the next most popular vernacular name, "jaguar guapote" - and if that's where we draw the line, then names like "managuense cichlid" and "guapote tigre" aren't even in the running. This is supported by Google Trends, which shows that on average, "jaguar cichlid" is searched for 47 times more than "parachromis managuensis" and "managuense cichlid" worldwide. We should name the article accordingly. Simple as. Kodiak Blackjack (talk) • (contribs) 00:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Cremastra (talk) 22:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hit-Girl & Kick-Ass → Kick-Ass (comic book) – Series is most commonly known as "Kick-Ass". Even the original "Hit-Girl" miniseries was collected under a "Kick-Ass" title. Mark Millar's official web site mentions "Kick-Ass", but not "Hit-Girl". 2002:620D:3AF:0:F89C:267A:F5A2:2C10 (talk) 22:08, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Principality of Halych → Principality of Galicia – Per WP:COMMONNAME, see Ngram as an example. The Latinized name is also used in Principality of Volhynia and Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia. This is also a name used in English-language works by Ukrainian historians,[46] which reflects the historical name for the region. Mellk (talk) 16:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The New York Times Crossword → The New York Times crossword puzzle – (restoring longstanding title) Per WP:AT,
Although official ... or trademarked names are often used for article titles, the term or name most typically used in reliable sources is generally preferred
(in other words, the NYT's branding does not matter). Ngrams strongly support lowercase. Web searches too: competitors of the Times lowercase it almost exclusively. Lowercase also makes linking easier; running text in the encyclopedia should generally not use brand-y capitalization. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 05:57, 5 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rallying → Rally (motorsport) – "Rallying" remains vague, as it can apply in literally every other type of sport "rally" is a term as well as the stock market. It is not an adequate disambiguation. Britannica calls it "rally" [47] so that's what I went with here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – European political party → Political party at European level – More precise; uses the official term; avoids erroneous implied scope of all of Europe's political parties at every geographic level. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 08:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Funding of European political parties → Funding of political parties at European level – The current title erroneously implies that all political parties in Europe are included. "political parties at European level" is the proper name. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nuseirat refugee camp massacre → Killing of civilians during Nuseirat raid and rescue – The word "massacre" is listed as a non-neutral term at WP:POVNAMING and should not be used unless it's a WP:COMMONNAME, which it isn't in this case. "Killing of civilians" is perfectly neutral (see WP:KILLINGS) and covers the idea of "massacre" but in a neutral way. Two anticipated objections: *While there is currently a discussion to merge this article, I don't see any consensus there. If consensus does develop to merge/delete this article, then an admin is perfectly capable of closing this RM and redirecting this article. But until then, this article must still follow WP:NPOV. *While Israeli and Palestinian officials dispute how many civilians were killed, the fact that at least some civilians (including children) were killed during the raid is a established fact that RS state in their own voice: **"At the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in the nearby town of Deir al-Balah, the dead and wounded arrived in waves — men, women and children." Associate Press **"Many Palestinians, including children, were killed and injured in the area where the operation took place, with images and footage showing a large numbers of casualties." BBC News **"Video in the aftermath of the raid showed charred bodies scattered across streets in Nuseirat, while Palestinians could be seen gathering the remains of those killed. Bloodied children could also be seen arriving at a local hospital". NBC News Finally, the move target should be "Killing of civilians during X", where X is the name decided for 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation article per WP:CONSISTENT. Currently there seems to be a lot of support for moving that article to "Nuseirat raid and rescue". VR (Please ping on reply) 04:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Al-Sardi school attack → Al-Sardi school airstrike – For starters, the attack itself was an airstrike, so it would be a more precise name. Secondly, there seems to be a lot of sources not saying “attack”, but rather “strike” as in airstrike. #Associated Press — “Israeli strike” #BBC — “Israeli strike on UN school” #The Guardian — “Israeli strike on UN school” #ABC News — “Israeli strike on UNRWA school” #CBS News — “Israel says deadly strike on Gaza school” #CNN — “Israel strike on UN school” #The Washington Post — “Israel used U.S. munition in deadly strike on U.N. school” #UN News — “Israeli airstrike on UNRWA school in Gaza” #Reuters — “Israeli strike on UN school” #Australian Broadcasting Corporation — “Israeli strike kills” #Fox News — “IDF says terrorists hiding in UN school killed in strike”…”The predawn strike hit the al-Sardi School run by UNRWA” Even clear-bias sides note “strike”: #Al Jazeera (pro-Hamas) — “Israeli airstrikes on UN-run school” #Times of Israel (pro-Israel) — “IDF strikes UN school in central Gaza” So, I propose and support a renaming of this article to “Al-Sardi school airstrike” to more closely match RS and common naming/description of the event. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 09:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mokai Tramway → Taupo Totara Timber Company Railway – The proposed title makes this article easier to find. Many readers will have heard of the "TTT", the tourist town of Taupo, or Lake Taupo. Few people will be familiar with the sawmilling village of Mokai, which today has only a few houses and a marae. The name also distinguishes the main Putaruru to Mokai line from the bush tramways radiating from Mokai. Many of these tramways were accessible only to selected TTT Railway rolling stock. In contrast, all TTT locomotives including the Mallet and the four-wheeled locos were able to run through to Mokai, where the company had its main mechanical workshop. The proposed new title also distinguishes the TTT Railway from the Kinleith Branch, which covered only part of the route and was built on formation that was largely new. (The original TTT formation north of Tokoroa is still visible in some places). I have a large collection of source material on the railway and the company and I hope to add more info and true primary citations as time permits. I will also propose that a separate page be set up covering the TTT company itself Kbwc56 (talk) 00:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Srebrenica massacre → Srebrenica genocide – I suggest that we rename this article to "Srebrenica genocide" now that the UN has issued its resolution on the matter today, designating July 11 as the International Day of Reflection and Commemoration of the 1995 Genocide in Srebrenica Please also check the discussion above. Njamu (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Zürich → Zurich – Zurich appears to be the name most commonly used in English-language sources, including by the city itself[48], Zurich Airport[49], Swiss Railways[50], airline Swiss[51], and Zurich local transport newtork[52]. I agree that there are some English-language sources that spell it Zürich, but they are either those that consistently prefer localised spelling (Düsseldorf, Łódź, or Hồ Chí Minh City; BBC and Britannica often fall here), or those that follow Wikipedia. Yet, non-umlauted spelling, even if not universal, appears to be the English norm. — kashmīrī TALK 06:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 08:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip → Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (disambiguation) – Just like we don't have a date on Israel-Hamas war, as that is by far the most significant of the wars between Israel and Hamas, the current invasion of Gaza Strip is by far the most significant of the invasions of Gaza Strip. It is the longest in duration, most extensive in damage, the highest in casualties and received the most international attention. VR (Please ping on reply) 18:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 07:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation → Nuseirat raid and rescue – Most sources are dual referencing this as a raid, attack or assault rather than just as a rescue. Guardian "Israeli attacks in central Gaza killed scores of Palestinians, many of them civilians, on Saturday amid a special forces operation to free four hostages held there, with the death toll sparking international outrage." NYT "Israeli soldiers and special operations police rescued four hostages from Gaza on Saturday amid a heavy air and ground assault",CNN "Israel’s operation to rescue four hostages took weeks of preparation and involved hundreds of personnel, its military said. But the mission began with a trail of destruction in central Gaza and ended in carnage, according to local authorities." Selfstudier (talk) 15:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Anti-Normanism → Normanism – The article starts with "Anti-Normanism is an opposition to Normanism, the mainstream narrative..." I find it weird that the mainstream theory of Normanism is but a section inside the fringe theory. The article must be moved and reshuffled upside down. - Altenmann >talk 19:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 14:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes → September 2022 Azerbaijani attack on Armenia – I have not seen a single reliable source saying that Armenia attacked Azerbaijan. But multiple reliable sources say the opposite. Various sources describe the events as an “invasion”, “offensive”, “attack”, or “assault.” There is consensus that Azerbaijan was the one who initiated the hostilities. Some talk about “Azerbaijan’s Invasion of Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Offensive on Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Attack on Armenia”, but they all agree on one thing: Azerbaijan was the initiator of the clash, and it was Azerbaijan who attacked. Therefore, the title “Attack of Azerbaijan on Armenia” perfectly reflects the vast majority of reliable sources and is the least ambiguous. I will provide the overwhelming evidence below: * Human Rights Watch: :“The killings took place during fighting between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces that broke out in mid-September, when Azerbaijan made incursions into Armenia...” * Genocide Watch: :“Azerbaijani military attacks on Armenian territory show Azerbaijani disregard for Armenian sovereignty.” * Freedom House: :“Freedom House Condemns Azerbaijani Attacks on Armenia” :“The Azerbaijani armed forces must immediately cease their deadly attacks on Armenian territory” * Axel Gehring, Ph.D., political scientist and expert in the field of foreign and security policy and researcher at the Institute for Critical Social Analysis of the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation in Berlin: :“On September 13, regular Azerbaijani troops launched a large-scale attack on Armenian territory. This attack took tensions between the countries to a new level.” * Laurence Broers is a specialist in conflicts in the Transcaucasus, founder of the scientific journal Caucasus Survey: :"Azerbaijan's recent attack seeks to enforce terms in negotiations with Armenia" “ The recent large-scale cross-border attacks inside Armenia by Azerbaijan...” * Maximilian Hess, Research Fellow for Central Asia at the Foreign Policy Institute, in Foreign Policy magazine: :“Azerbaijani forces who marched into Armenia continue to occupy part of its territory, in particular heights around the town of Jermuk.” * David L. Phillips, conflict analyst in The National Interest: :“The United States criticized Azerbaijan's recent attacks on Armenia proper” * European Parliament Resolution: :“Strongly condemns the latest military aggression by Azerbaijan on September 12, 2022 on the sovereign territory of Armenia” :“calls on the Azerbaijani authorities, therefore, to immediately withdraw from all parts of the territory of Armenia “ * Wojciech Gorecki, senior researcher at the Department of Turkey, Caucasus and Central Asia: :“in September 2022 Azerbaijan attacked targets located on Armenian territory.” * The Guardian: : “This week, with attention focused across the Black Sea in Ukraine, fighting on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia killed about 100 troops after Azerbaijan shelled a number of towns in Armenia, with both sides accusing each other of “provocations”.” * Der Spiegel: : “Peace negotiations mediated by the European Union have been at an impasse since Baku also attacked territory in the Republic of Armenia in September 2022.” * TIME: : “...democratic nation that was recently invaded by its authoritarian neighbor” : “...but also Armenia, which has been suffering from Azerbaijan's invasion for almost three weeks now.” * BBC: : “I don’t think anyone doubts that Azerbaijan started this operation on the territory of Armenia. Even Azerbaijani commentators admit this. Armenia is currently weak, has little interest in disrupting the status quo.” * Eurasianet :"Azerbaijan launches large-scale attacks on Armenia" :“Azerbaijan launched a large-scale attack on targets in Armenia, an unprecedented expansion of the long-running conflict into Armenian territory.” * Michael Rubin, senior researcher at AIP: :“Last week, Azerbaijan attacked Armenia proper. (Last week Azerbaijan attacked Armenia directly)” * Paul Stronski is a senior fellow in the Carnegie Russia and Eurasia Programs, specializing in Russia and the South Caucasus: : “..the fact that Russia is preoccupied, certainly led to what looks like an Azerbaijani offensive at this time” : “And what we even saw just in the last few days is actually attacks inside and shelling inside cities inside Armenia, not just along the border." * Kapil Komireddy, political columnist for The Telegraph: : “But so little about Azerbaijan's attack, which goes beyond the disputed territory of Karabakh and targets Armenia proper.” *Seth Franzman, Middle East analyst for The Jerusalem Post , contributor to Defense News, The National Interest and Digest of Middle East Studies: :“Attacks on Armenia represent dangerous escalation” *Carnegie Europe: :“Nearly 300 soldiers died in a large-scale Azerbaijani incursion into the territory of Armenia on September 13-14.” Vanezi (talk) 21:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Cremastra (talk) 14:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Genocide of Indigenous peoples → Genocide of indigenous peoples – "Indigenous" is only a proper name when adopted as conventional for a particular ethnic group, and when applied to the specific groups who have done so. As a general, global adjective it is not and cannot be a proper name (any more than the opposite, "colonial"), so should not be capitalized. See in particular the lead paragraph of MOS:CAPS: WP does not capitalize that which is not capitalized consistently across nearly all independent reliable sources, and "indigenous peoples" is not so capitalized (indeed, it is overwhelmingly lowercase [53][54], except in highly retrictive contexts that refer to specific populations who have adopted the term self-referentially as a name in English). This same situation is true of all such terms such as "native" and "aboriginal". "Aboriginal" is capitalized in reference to autochthonous Australians, and "Native" is capitalized in "Native Americans" in reference to the autochthonous peoples of what is now the US and sometimes (in mostly US usage) all of the Americas. But "native" is not capitalized (by the preponderance of modern reliable sources) in reference to Australians, nor "aboriginal" in reference to Americans, and neither is capitalized in "the native (aboriginal) peoples and languages of Siberia and Central Asia before the Soviet Union", etc. PS: There may be other over-capitalized articles of this sort, but perhaps take them one at a time, since some might pertain more narrowly to groups that have taken on "Indigenous" as a self-referential name/label. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 04:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC); revised 06:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tel al-Sultan massacre → Rafah tent camp attack – News sources have called it "attack", "massacre", "strike" and "airstrike". It is not yet clear which is the most WP:COMMONNAME. "Massacre" carries value judgement, and "airstrike" obscures the fact that many of the casualties weren't killed directly by the airstrike, but were burned alive in the resulting fire. "Strike" is very similar to "attack", but "attack" is consistent with other similar events like World Central Kitchen aid convoy attack. I also think "Rafah tent camp" is more recognizable than "Tel al-Sultan" and most sources seem to use "Rafah tent camp" or "Rafah displacement camp".VR (Please ping on reply) 18:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza → ? – I'm unsure what the new title should be, but I'm sure that this one has an issue. The Israeli attack on Gaza has gone past 2023 into 2024. So, we can't keep the "2023 Israeli attack on Gaza" part. Perhaps we could change it to "Allegations of genocide perpetrated by Israel in the Israel–Hamas war", "Allegations of genocide in Gaza in the Israel–Hamas war", or something different. Note that "2023 Israeli attack on Gaza" just redirects to Israel–Hamas war. Paul Vaurie (talk) 19:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
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