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E3 Press Conferences, 11 June

There are three press conferences planned for today at E3; Square Enix, Ubisoft and Sony. I'm definitely going to cover the Square Enix event, which is happening shortly. I may not be able to cover the others due to time zone differences. If anyone wants to cover the others, they're welcome. --ProtoDrake (talk) 15:49, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PC Gaming Show is today too. --Masem (t) 17:32, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Square Enix

  • A feature on Shadow of the Tomb Raider, featuring the opening cutscene, gameplay sequence. Very much more stealth oriented compared to previous entries. Full underwater exploration confirmed, plus second trailer.
  • A trailer for the newest content for Final Fantasy XIV Stormblood.
  • Developer comments and short piece of new footage for the Life Is Strange 2 free prequel.
  • New trailer for Dragon Quest XI. A new collaboration with Brave Exvius.
  • A new game titled Babylon's Fall, coming in 2019. Looks a little Dark Souls-ish.
  • Reprise of Nier: Automata for Xbox One.
  • A new short trailer for Octopath Traveller.
  • A short piece on Just Cause 4.
  • A new game titled The Quiet Man for PS4 and Steam. Looks like an action game with deaf protagonist.
  • A remixed trailer for Kingdom Hearts 3. Frozen, Ratatouissle, Rapunzel, Monster Inc, Toy Story worlds shown.

And that's it. --ProtoDrake (talk) 17:30, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Maybe this is off-topic, but we should really move all the Electronic Entertainment Expo pages to just E3, as that is the overwhelming WP:COMMONNAME for the event. "E3 2018" on Google received 24 million hits on Google versus just 286,000 for "Electronic Entertainment Expo 2018". I'm surprised this hasn't been done yet at any time Wikipedia's history. If it's too much work to do during the event, then we have all the time to fix it afterwards. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:13, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It won't be too much work. A bot will automatically fix all the double redirects after the move. --The1337gamer (talk) 18:18, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sony

Why are we in a church? (I'm on this one.) Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 01:02, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Last of Us Part 2. So Elle has a romantic relationship with another woman and goes around brutalizing people while being brutalized herself. Okay...
  • Destiny 2: Forsaken. September 4th. Expansion, perhaps?
  • Ghost of Sushima (probably spelling that wrong) looks like a Samurai game...or something. I'm very confused.
  • Control by Remedy and 505, out 2019.
  • Resident Evil 2 is getting a remake, January 25th, 2019.
  • Bathtub guy, playing a game with the creator of Rick and Morty. Missed the name.
  • And another KHIII trailer. A single package of all KH games will be available at some point.
  • And there's Kojima's thing, Death Stranding. Still no idea what this game is, what its about or anything.
  • Nioh 2 will be a thing.
  • Activision's Spiderman is up. It feels very much like Arkham based on the combat but they have the UI off screen too much to tell. Also, he seems to have been at this for the last eight years, which is an interesting detail.
  • New VR title from FromSoftware and JapanStudio. Deracine? Spelling that wrong I think.

Are we done? This presentation style is very confusing. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 02:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

E3 renaming

(apologies to Dissident, this deserves a higher placement for discussion)

  • Maybe this is off-topic, but we should really move all the Electronic Entertainment Expo pages to just E3, as that is the overwhelming WP:COMMONNAME for the event. "E3 2018" on Google received 24 million hits on Google versus just 286,000 for "Electronic Entertainment Expo 2018". I'm surprised this hasn't been done yet at any time Wikipedia's history. If it's too much work to do during the event, then we have all the time to fix it afterwards. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:13, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It won't be too much work. A bot will automatically fix all the double redirects after the move. --The1337gamer (talk) 18:18, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My concern is that in while "E3 2018" is easy to link and remember, "E3" is a very narrow term within video games and technology (It is not as ubiquitous as "NASA"). On any linked page, we are going to need to spell it out first use. I think renaming to E3 will encourage sloppiness in VG articles, and while the full name is a PITA to write out once, it's more proper. (Obviously, redirects back and forth deal with linkage issues). --Masem (t) 04:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
But if it's not the common name (and it clearly isn't), why bother? We could just keep the base article at Electronic Entertainment Expo, and move each individual show to E3 YEAR. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 08:36, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with Masem that we should keep the pages at "Electronic Entertainment Expo" rather than E3. The "Google test" is a poor indicator of proving notability—the "search result" might be a random number generated by a process that nobody understands (see this article). Not everyone knows what "E3" means (it isn't as big as NASA, PETA, DC, etc). It's helpful to a general audience. "E3 20XX" already redirects to the respective pages. JOEBRO64 12:30, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Does lack of knowledge by the general population override the common name? The entire purpose of Wikipedia is about educating people about new topics after all, so I don't think this should be used as an argument. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:16, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think its important to keep the name "Electronic Entertainment Expo" for the main article because it educates readers what it stands for. However, I do believe that the individual E3 articles like "E3 2018" should be renamed to "E3 2018" not "Electronic Entertainment Expo 2018".Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 18:36, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How to address "hero shooters"

An edit war is presently going on regarding the handling of the term "hero shooter" on Team Fortress 2 and Overwatch. According to Solino, "hero shooter" is a proper genre while others disagree. So to seek clearer consensus, how should we address these games as "hero shooters"? Lordtobi (✉) 08:11, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think we should handle it in the same way we do with open world as a genre. Meaning, we'd avoid using it as a replacement for first-person shooter (in the infobox and opening sentence), but still allow prose to say "Described as a hero shooter, the game..." This is, of course, if sources even consider the game as one. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 08:34, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • This - it's presently a WP:NEO term that is useful to document but not yet established as a genre. It's also still a relatively new thing. (Contrast to Battle Royale, in that while PUBG popularized it, the concept had been around for a while but not really formalized as a genre until PUBG). --Masem (t) 14:13, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree that it can be added exactly the way open world is treated, not as a replacement for first person shooter, but an addition to it. The term is mentioned by several game websites, including IGN and PC gamer, specifically for TF2, Overwatch and Paladins. So I don't see why its addition would be a problem. Solinothe Wolf 14:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here are the sources I used when I wanted to add it to the lead, of course not replacing any of the existing descriptors.
IGN prominently uses this term for Overwatch and other games on multiple articles and reviews.
PC Gamer has a dedicated article about the Hero Shooter genre and its future Here. The article mentions a list of games including Overwatch, TF2 and Battleborn.
Gamasutra published an article about Hero Shooters.
I'm sure there might be more sources. But these are the ones I initially used. Solinothe Wolf 06:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • If multiple of the more prominent sources are using the term "hero shooter", we can certainly include it one way or another. But it is not a genre, should not be in genre field in infobox, and it should definitely not replace any of the existing genres or descriptors. In other words, I guess similar to open world. I don't think there's anything wrong with using it in lead, as long as later overview and/or history sections make it clear how sources are describing it as such. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 18:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bad handling of important subject: VG remastering

We have Video game remake as a stand-alone article. We also have Remaster#Video games, a section that is poorly written and researched, and is treating the concepts as if synonymous when they are not. (I caught the Video game remake article doing this in a handful of places, too, and fixed it).

We either need to have a Video game remaster article (presently a redir to Remaster#Video games), or a section at Video game remake that is all about remasters in particular and is more detailed and accurate than the WP:SUMMARY material at Remaster#Video games (which needs revision no matter what direction we go in).

See also User talk:Interqwark#Remasters and remakes for some background discussion, stemming from a terminological dispute about this stuff.

PS: The material also needs to distinguish these concepts from a) porting; b) emulation (including packaging of a game inside an emulator as a quick-and-dirty porting alterantive); and c) creation of alternative game engines for original game content (e.g. OpenMW, which comes with no game content, and uses the original content files of Morrowind but any of its .EXE, .DLL or other related code).
 — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  02:31, 14 June 2018 (UTC); revised: 05:26, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The difference between a remake and a remaster are extremely subtle that they don't need separate articles and should be described within the same one. However I know from my own research that getting very exacting terms (such as how to distinguish this from an emulation, or the like) is not well sourcable. "Everyone" knows it, so no one documents it. --Masem (t) 05:43, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The two phrases are for different things, and certain games have both (Potentially Final Fantasy VII for example). Remasters are generally graphical updates, wheras Remakes generally work on new engines, or have vastly different gameplay. Obviously an article on the subject would be nice, but surely it's just a glossary type thing? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:15, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We here at VG all know that, but try to reliably source that. That is not easy. Because they are close-enough terms, they should be in the same article, and we should describe the differences, but there's so little sourcing to explain those differences to justify two separate articles. --Masem (t) 13:57, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This is another one of those things that is less about our bad handling of it, and more about the industry's band handling of it. The lines are often blurred or distorted for marketing purposes. Argument often break out in articles. I'm sure it could be improved (so go for it) but some of the larger issues are easier to talk about than actually resolve. Sergecross73 msg me 14:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remastering, remake, reboot, reimagining? My 2¢:
  1. Ratchet & Clank (2016 video game) is a reimagining; it tells pretty much the same story as the original and goes through story and gameplay beats intentionally calling back for nostalgic players but is a completely new game, new engine
  2. Tomb Raider 2013 is a reboot -- not only is it brand new gameplay and engine, it's also a brand new continuity and basically exists completely disregarding any prior games
  3. The Last of Us Remastered is a remaster, it's the exact same game and engine with a renewed coat of paint; pretty much a port on newer gen
  4. Pokémon FireRed is a remake, in that it is fundamentally the same game, with the same design core, same elements, but practically every bit of graphics and sound was redone, there's a few additions to gameplay.
Seems quite subjective IMO. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 14:22, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Dangit, I know I found an academic source at one point for an article that described these terms well that I used here, and now I can't remember where. --Masem (t) 14:25, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Here we go [3] (It's an open access paper) and this book The Game Developer's Dictionary:: A Multidisciplinary Lexicon for Professionals and Students (google books has preview pages), but when checking, they don't differ remaster from remake. (But I'll link these as decent references). --Masem (t) 14:45, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 June 2018

The title was relaunched on May 8th 2018, following its own reception: http://pr.funcom.com/pressreleases/conan-exiles-out-today-over-1-million-sold-2501619 77.126.27.7 (talk) 09:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. -- ferret (talk) 15:23, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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E3 edition! The bot was down for the last two days, but that still leaves us quite a lot up through the 14th. The other two days will make it onto next week's report (hopefully). --PresN 12:37, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much, PresN! Nomader (talk) 23:06, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Metacritic & GameRankings

Hello. Is there a way to add or submit a review for a video game to those sites ? Regards. --Archimëa (talk) 17:13, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No. These sites have set reviewers that they take scores from. See The MetaScore explination page for details. What were you trying to do? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:29, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I found some review for few games that don't have score review on those sites. But well, if it's impossible...
Thanks for your help. --Archimëa (talk) 20:07, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Metacritic uses a list of reviewers that it scores from. If it is a review from one of these sources, and it's not listed, you could potentially email them (It may simply be an oversight!) But, if it's just a review from a site they don't take reviews from, that's deliberate. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:Lee Vilenski : Do you know were i can email them ? --Archimëa (talk) 16:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Devil May Cry organization

See Template talk:Devil May Cry series#Organization of games about whether or not the reboot DmC deserves its own section.Tintor2 (talk) 23:09, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A valuable tip when writing articles using sources in another language.

In the past I have typed out sources word by word into Google Translate when the information is within unsearchable content (such as an photo from a Polish gaming magazine). This was the only solution I could think of that didn't require a poor Polish Wikipedian to manually translate the thing. These days I now have a much better solution.

I would recommend that Wikipedia users instead use this (free) website https://ocr.space, which turns an image into text. You choose the language / languages contained in the image, and the algorithm does the rest.

When copy/pasting the output to Google Translate, I've had issues with sentences being broken between lines, so you might have to manually go through each line, deleting the dead space and ensuring the sentences are being translated whole rather than in out-of-context fragments. It may be annoying but it's certainly better than the other way.

Just wanted to throw it out there because it took a bit of sleuthing to come to that solution and I think it should become standard practice here.

--Coin945 (talk) 02:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You can also download the Google Translate app for your phone, and use your phone's camera to take pictures of text. The app will automatically transcribe and translate the text. Really handy if you have physical printed materials in other languages.
Typically I do the same thing you said: manually go through and ensure it was transcribed correctly. If a period or comma was missed, it messes up the translation. With Japanese, sometimes the kanji are misinterpreted but it's surprisingly accurate for the most part. TarkusABtalk 02:56, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DirectX lists

Are these lists silly? I thought DirectX was a fairly common API used for Windows games.

TarkusABtalk 02:48, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Too commonly used, these are indiscriminate lists. Categories are fine. --Masem (t) 05:37, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you're correct, it's extremely common. I don't think they're necessary either. Sergecross73 msg me 13:45, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK I sent them all to AFD. TarkusABtalk 14:14, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Probably would have made sense for this to be a multiple deletion topic, rather than 4 seperate ones. But, yes, this is pointless. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:48, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion requested

At Talk:Fortnite#Making a possible "Fortnite: STW" article?, I offer a solution that may be need to stop an endless string of requests to mark the game as for Switch (when only the Battle Royale version is) and clear up confusing that was created by the naming schemes. It's a bit unusual solution so would like a few extra eyes. --Masem (t) 05:39, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to add a little bump to this so it can get more attention. it does sound complicated.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 22:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Anybody has this?

I just found that Udon's artbook for Street Fighter X Tekken has a lot of information about how the staff handled the cast. I am primiraly searching for information of Kazuya Mishima but I managed to find somethings thanks to a blog focused on Nina Williams. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 23:26, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Street Fighter articles

Hi all, I've recently been working my way through some of our Category:Video game cleanup articles, but there are a few Street Fighter articles that seem to be complete Game guide style articles in their gameplay sections. I'm not a fan of the series, so I don't know much about it.


The articles are:

And, looking at the series as a whole, the articles in general have an awful lot of information, but need serious cleanup. Would anyone with more knowledge of the subject (or even fighting games in general) take a look at them for me? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:51, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fighting games in general seem to have a lot of gamecruft, such as lists of character rosters. I've always considered it a grandfathered clause, but we probably should have a discussion about this. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 02:35, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rushed article?

A fellow user has just rebuilt Nero (Devil May Cry) but it lacks items fellow Devil May Cry articles lack. I'm pretty sure there is a lot of material about his creation (I remember that once his English actor said it was one of his favorite characters) but I don't think I can work on it that much. Any idea? I would be bold and merge but from my point of view the user is aware about the notability guidelines based on how he created the article. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 20:22, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say it's an obvious merge and delete (And if you were so inclined, you would have to take to AfD), but the character doesn't seem non-notable. The fact that other DMC articles are WP:GA or WP:FA doesn't mean that this article is bad; but it does suggest that work could be done. I'm not familiar with the series, so I can't help, but even if the reception section was expanded slightly, it would be a fine article (If close to the WP:GNG border.) Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:30, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I managed to add some more sources. I'm pretty sure the site Anime News Network also gave their opinion on Nero but I can't find the article even though it's supposed to be new.Tintor2 (talk) 18:51, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Managed to improve it to at least to two paragraph. The problem is that Nero's character only appeared in DMC4, the two novels (never translated) and the upcoming DMC5 so there's not much to expand. I'll see if I can find more creation info if the consensus is that the article can pass notability.Tintor2 (talk) 19:21, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Lee Vilenski: I managed to find a lot of creation information about the character and expanded a bit the reception. What do you think?Tintor2 (talk) 23:56, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Interest in Steins;Gate characters?

This project is really good at making articles for characters. I don't know what makes cahracters notable, but I have personal favorites coming from steins;gate. Not sure if they are notable. Specifically Suzuha Amane, Ruka Urushibara and MOeka Kuryu.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 20:56, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend you checking Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources since there is even a Google engine. I'm not familiar with them but if the games have had animes I would advise you searching for critical reception in [www.animenewsnetwork.com ANN] and UK Anime.Tintor2 (talk) 20:59, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
ok, i'll look into it and see what I can find for them.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 21:13, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would suggest looking into the Science Adventure series in general rather than just Steins;Gate. I don't know if these characters have a lot of coverage, though - I have searched for development and reception related sources a lot when working on the articles, and there's not a lot of stuff out there.--Alexandra IDVtalk 21:55, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In recent years a lot of "list of [X] characters" have been deleted, often because they lack stand-alone notability. I'm not familiar with the series and perhaps they do have plenty of coverage, but there's nothing wrong with having a properly referenced section on a general article. My 2¢. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 01:28, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, when I saw this discussion earlier, my recommendation was to check with Alexandra IDV, who is the biggest S;G fan I've seen on Wikipedia. But she's already responded now. I'm personally a big fan, but I've written very little on it on Wikipedia, as editors like Alexandra have beat me to the punch usually. I will say though, in my experience, it's generally pretty difficult to meet the notability requirements for video game characters. If you do attempt it, I'd recommend starting with a starring character though. I've wanted to create character articles for a bunch of video games, and the few I've ever had any luck with finding sources for were main characters. They're the ones who generally get the needed coverage. Sergecross73 msg me 02:22, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ok if its a shared universe, than i'm not qualified for it. I've never played the other games. If the characters never interact between series, would it still make sense to keep them separate?Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 06:54, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If you wee interested in, I'd check for sources before all else. It's not like characters AREN'T independently notable in general, as there are still a lot of these lists. The ones that get deleted are the ones that are either not sourced, or really poorly sourced. I know nothing of the series, but it might pass. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:22, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA notifications

One of Flowerpiep's works, Hinata Hyuga, became a GA yet the user received a message that the review failed. Could this be related to the article's history as it once failed the review? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 17:29, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Probably; given the lack of articlehistory template, and the presence of both a GA and GAfailed template, I bet the bot that posts to talk pages looks at the article talk page, checks for GAfailed, then checks for GA. --PresN 20:29, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I posted this on Talk:List of Commodore 64 games (A–M) but thought maybe I should post here too.

Hello, I am currently attempting to look at all games released for the Commodore 64 listed on Wikipedia. I have been fixing some dead/broken links as I go along, but there are many issues I am unsure about proper procedure. I have a few questions I would appreciate feedback on:

According to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Assessment#Quality_scale, lists should be lists of LIVE links to Wikipedia articles. However, according to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Video_games#Essential_content, an article should have a minimum amount of information to warrant its own page. So my question is, what do I do when I find a dead link referring to a game that has mentions in sites like Moby Games, Lemon 64, or My Abandonware? If I find a link that refers to a game that I can't find anything about, I should presumably flag it somehow, but I am not sure how to do that either.

Any feedback is appreciated. RampagingCarrot (talk) 11:00, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The second half of E3- an explosion of Drafts! Also, some tagging sprees for both articles and categories. Also, should Category:First-person video games even exist? If so, it probably should have more than 1 article and 1 subcat (FPSs)... --PresN 20:27, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lumines Live! is now an article.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 23:45, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ataricompendium.com

I wanted to check with others if it's okay to use it as a source. Govvy (talk) 21:02, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to just be an archive site which, if used in the correct way, is fine. --LichWizard talk 21:31, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have any idea if it's reliable or not, but it is a fascinating site. I know a lot about DC Comics but never knew they published Atari-themed titles. JOEBRO64 21:34, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
k, thanks, Govvy (talk) 21:38, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

VGHF magazine archive available for requests

FYI. I (finally) was able to get in touch with Frank Cifaldi of the Video Game History Foundation. He is willing to take source requests from his magazine archive as needed. He's pretty busy and we don't know what the request volume could be, but we can at least try it out. So if you're looking for a scan, send me a message, and I can act as the middle man.

His library consists of:

  • #1 through December 1999
    • EGM
    • GamePro
    • Game Informer
    • Nintendo Power
  • #1 through December, 1997, 1998-1999 missing a few
    • GameFan
  • All issues
    • Video Games & Computer Entertainment
    • Video Games
    • Game Players
    • Game Player's
    • Game Player's Nintendo
    • Game Player's Sega
    • Game Player's Game Boy
    • Electronic Game Player
    • Sega Visions

TarkusABtalk 22:45, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TarkusAB:Have you already checked archive.org? There's now every single issue of GameFan magazine available up until the very last issue (December 2000/Vol. 8, Issue 12). That's how i've managed to find missing Atari Jaguar reviews + reviews for other systems as well from the magazine. Type "GameFan Vol x" and there 'ya go!. Hope that helps. KGRAMR (talk) 01:44, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It would be great if he could connect with archive.org to get all those scanned or something. --Izno (talk) 03:02, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
ehhh we need to be careful with that. Cifaldi knows well enough about video game preservation, and for that we have the exceptions on the DMCA that allow use to emulate games that cannot work on available hardware (hence why archive.org can host all those old DOS games and other things). But magazines, these still have standard copyright. The one-off article someone made need is within fair use, but not full issue runs, at least, without permission of the publisher. --Masem (t) 03:38, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, but beyond the copyright concerns, it takes time too, time he'd rather spend combing through preview carts from Game Informer's archives to make sure the ROMs are copied before they die. But yea, remember when there were a bunch of Nintendo Power magazines up there? Then they all disappeared one day? Since he's now a designated non-profit, perhaps he is more concerned about copyright too. TarkusABtalk 11:33, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Blade Strangers cover art

Hello there! I've been working on overhauling and updating the recent Blade Strangers article after a banned user created it in a poor, unfinished state. I think I've nearly managed to update it to meet both notability guidelines and a minimum standard of quality, but one of the remaining tasks is to replace the current cover art, which is only a small portion of an outdated piece of box art, with the full final box design (either for Switch or PS4; both are functionally identical, save for the presence of the last playable character on the Switch cover). However, as I'm only an IP and choose not to make an account for personal reasons, I can't replace the image myself, and would appreciate it if someone here would be so kind as to do so. On the same topic, I'd also appreciate it if someone could give my work a quick evaluation to see if it can be moved any higher on the quality scale. I've also pulled some information for the article from this interview with the game's producer, but I'm not sure if it qualifies as an acceptable source. Can someone verify if this would be permissible to cite? Thank you very much -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I bumped it to start, taking into account that it doesn't have a reception section at this time, and the refs are a bit weak, some from unreliable sources. I don't see a problem with citing the video but I tend to stay away from interviews which do not appear in WP:RS, because of WP:WEIGHT. You might add it as an external link. --Izno (talk) 18:39, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind; I definitely intend to build a proper reception section once actual reviews start appearing when it's released in a few months. Any sources in particular I should try and replace in the meantime? I'm still on the hunt for a good source that covers the development information from the press release.
EDIT: Replaced the Shoryuken and Destructoid articles with IGN and Gematsu. I think all the sources are acceptable now, though I'd still like to find a source I can use in place of the official site and press release. Also, I'd still appreciate it if someone could replace the article's cover art as was my original request. (Thank you, Alexandra IDV!) -- 136.181.195.25 (talk) 18:47, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Criminal Case (game) tables

Previously, I removed the list of cases from the above game series. The article suffers from this ridiculous list, which seems to be a list of in-game information, which isn't notable. The article doesn't follow the MOS at all, and I'm not sure it's notable (It's borderline).

It does seem to be really reliably updated, but I'm not sure if a complete re-write is in order. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:00, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

These are WP:GAMECRUFT and should be removed. --Izno (talk) 12:13, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the fictional "location" and "partner/character" fields, but if this was an episodic game, and the "release date" field isn't in-universe stuff but rather actual release dates of the episodes, then listing the names and release dates wouldn't be gamecruft. Sergecross73 msg me 12:30, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't that seem rather in-depth? Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:52, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, it seems in-depth, but I think that's just because there aren't many 100+ part episodic games? I mean, it doesn't matter to me, I don't have any plans to edit or maintain the article, so you can remove it whole-sale if you want. But if a dispute broke out over it, I'd argue in favor of inclusion of a name/release date column. Sergecross73 msg me 13:36, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I just removed the section. A whopping 63k+ characters long list. Gives no actual information whatsoever about the game. WP:NOTCATALOG and WP:GAMECRUFT. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
On a related note should it instead be titled Criminal Case (video game).--76.65.41.59 (talk) 22:44, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Garry Newman

Would anyone happen to know if there are any photos of Garry Newman (developer of Rust and Garry's Mod) floating around with Commons-allowable licenses? I tried searching for some but I came back empty handed. I'd like to add his photograph to the development section of Rust. Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:35, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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