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Nieva (Spanish group)

Hi, remember the Noemi Carrion listing. Here is the entry for Nieva, her rock group. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nieva_%28Spanish_group%29 The album is due for release. Can you check the listing if you have time. Thanks. [||||]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Zanze123 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • When you leave messages, please remember to "sign" your name, by putting ~~~~ (four tilde signs) at the end. This will add your name, and the date and time.
  • When you mention an article or something, please put it as a wikilink, for example just put [[Nieva (Spanish group)]], which will appear like this: Nieva (Spanish group)
  • I'm sorry, but a) I have a terrible memory, and b) I tend to deal with loads of articles every day; can you remind me what this is in connection with? Was it something I nominated for deletion or something? What did you want me to do?
Please reply below, cheers,  Chzz  ►  22:20, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I just wanted you to check it to make sure it's OK. It supports the work of Noemi Carrion - (you previously helped with that). Thanks. [[[User:Zanze123|Zanze123]] (talk) 12:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)][reply]

Ah, so you want a quick review of Nieva (Spanish group)? OK, here goes;
  • antipop.es is a primary source; it says that it is "the Antonio Escobar music production personal studio"
  • wikipedia itself should not be used as a reference; see WP:SELFREF
  • ua.es is a press-release, so another primary source
The article needs some references showing press coverage, otherwise it could be deleted as not meeting the notability guidelines.
  • It is not neutral; phrases such as, for example, "dark but vibrant, epic sound, takes an innovative step" are not appropriate for Wikipedia
  • The "Reference points" - ie the other bands that influenced them - appears to be original research
  • Almost all the facts lack references; anything that is not referenced can be removed by any user. Currently, most of the article cannot be verified - for example, "Nieva was launched in 2004" - how could I, as a reader, check that fact for myself? The same applies for every fact given; we need some independent reliable sources
  • There are far too many external links; please see the external link policy to see what links are appropriate.

Please review WP:FIRST, which offers general advice about writing articles  Chzz  ►  13:21, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Changes are being made. How do we get Nieva to come up in the search. Currently it lists a place, not the group. How to get a choice of Nievas when typing in Nieva, like say, when typing in New Order. Thanks. {||||} —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zanze123 (talk • contribs) 18:21, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that's the black art of disambiguation - I've just done it for you; see Nieva. Also, I've redirected Antonio Escobar to the article (for now - they can always have an article of their own one day, over-writing the redirect).
I notice that you still seem to be having trouble 'signing' your messages; you should either type in ~~~~ (four tilde signs), or you can do the same thing by clicking the 'sign' button, pictured here.  Chzz  ►  18:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it's interesting that you redirected Antonio Escobar, because in fact, there was already a Wiki English entry for an Antonio Escobar - famous historical figure. But now, when I search, that no longer appears. It's like when you re-directed, as a result, the original page was lost. I wonder where it went. In fact this Antonio Escobar has a link here: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Escobar_N%C3%BA%C3%B1ez at Wiki Spanish. Thanks again.--Zanze123 (talk) 22:08, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You probably mean Antonio Escobar y Mendoza or Luis Antonio Escobar? Previously, there was no page called "Antonio Escobar", so if a user entered that, it would take them to the search matches and show a list of articles that partially matched. That can still be seen by putting in "Antonio Escobar" and clicking 'search' instead of 'go'. As they are not actually quite the same name, I didn't think that a disambiguation would be necessary.  Chzz  ►  22:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are you nuts?

So a legitimate commercial software package that was used on feature films, commercials, and video games does not deserve a Wikipedia entry, but the "Boothill Foottappers" and "Red Cunt Hair" do? Some band that nobody outside of the UK has ever even heard of and some completely obscure profanity? Are you serious?

People like you should not have authority to decide what does and does not get on Wikipedia. Just because you are unfamiliar with something does not render it irrelevant, and just because some band or swear word appeals to your apparently juvenile sensibilities does not make it noteworthy enough to warrant inclusion on this site. Grow up. --Ajerimez (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alias Eclipse  Chzz  ►  14:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OTRS for austinmemories.com

Go ahead and upload the images, and I'll add the ticket number once you are ready. I've replied to your e-mail via e-mail as well. Sorry for the time it took to reply, we are quite backlogged. -Andrew c [talk] 16:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problems. Files now uploaded as;
Thanks for the help,  Chzz  ►  17:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.-Andrew c [talk] 17:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism on the page White

Hi. I'm sorry about the vandalism on the page White. I didn't mean it. I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thanks,

DarthGravy DarthGravy (talk) 21:15, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on user talk

 Done  Chzz  ►  21:34, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bingley Hall, Stafford, England

HELP !! I need you to create an article about Bingley Hall in Stafford, England.

Evangp (talk) 21:46, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that an article about it would be nice; I'd like to write one, but I will have to add it to my very long list of 'things to do', so I might not get to it for a very long time. You could always write it yourself?  Chzz  ►  22:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OR tag on Search for a Method

You recently placed an original research tag on the Search for a Method article I started. When you add an OR tag to an article, you are supposed to explain your concerns on the article's talk page. I can't fix any OR problems if I don't know what they are. Most of the article is a summary of Sartre's book. I realize that working from a primary source is can be cause OR problems, but I am aware of Wikipedia's policies: I'm not analyzing or interpreting the book, only summarizing. If you think I've gone beyond summarizing, please explain why.--Bkwillwm (talk) 23:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've just removed the tag; my concern is that it is pretty much impossible to even summarize the content of a book, and especially something about a topic like this, without introducing opinion. I've had a quick look, and I do appreciate what you said - indeed it does look like a good summary. The trouble is, by relying only on the primary source, even neutral statements constitute original research. For example - and don't take this as a literal request to change this bit - "He describes an early attraction to Marx's thought" - and that isn't quite what Satre wrote. I might agree with you that that is a fair summary, but others may not. Hence, merely summarizing, using just the primary source, inherently introduces OR. The only true solution for Wikipedia, in order to provide non-OR facts, is to use appropriate secondary reliable sources.
I hope this explains my tagging; as I've said, it's not a big deal, hence I removed it. I tagged it at the time as I saw the article under development, and wanted to flag up the issue to avoid more problems down the line. I don't have the time to read the book and detail my issues right now; perhaps I'll be able to another time. Thanks for responding.  Chzz  ►  22:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try, try again

Dear Chzz,

Haven't talked in a while. Hope you're well.

I've reworked the Troutman draft, please take another look. I really tried to address all of your issues from September 9.

1) Troutman is a professional author, since she is paid for her writing and her books are for sale - the hallmark of a professional is that they earn their living by their activities. I think the P word is fully justified here. I took it out in "designs professional resumes" but kept it for "job searching for career professionals" because that's exactly who Troutman's clients are. This is not puffery, imho.

2) The Resume Place is officially designated by the USG as a small, woman-owned business - this is not opinion but an actual USG classification, shown in the reference (both the small and the woman-owned part).

3) I've changed the wording from "Thanks to her first book..." to "In her first book...". The references really do back this up.

4) Troutman's publications are extensively referenced in footnotes 3 and 5.

5) Took out the Monster.com since this was in the past, it turns out, no longer active.

6) I referenced mentions in Federal Diary Live, Federal News Radio, Fedmanager.com, and 40Plus of Greater Washington.

7) Took out her prior affiliations, too hard right now to dig up those old references.

Please let me know how you like this revised draft. Are we ready to go live yet?

Thank you,

--Burkeguy 19:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burkeguy (talk • contribs)

1) Can you provide an independent reliable source that states Troutman is a professional in all those fields? Otherwise it'd be {{fact}} tagged or just removed, per WP:V. Even if it can be sourced, I still contend that it introduces POV. I don't see featured articles starting off with "William Barley was a professional English bookseller", "Jenna Jameson was a former professional pornographic actress", "Frank Zappa was a professional guitarist" etc. See what I mean?
2) That same reference states that "this business has a BBB Rating of D- on a scale from A+ to F. Reasons for this rating include: Failure to honor commitment to arbitrate or mediate disputes, One complaint filed against business that was not resolved." - so will you add that too?
3) "www.federaljobs.net" are trying to sell the book, so they're not an appropriate source for the fact. "military.com/Opinions" - is that a primary source? www.abc2news.com seems to be a self-published/press-release/advert for a course; the gao.gov PDF does not contain "federal resume" or "troutman"; I cannot see in "govexec.com" where it states that Troutman popularized it; pentagon.mil doesn't mention troutman
4) I can't remember what this is in connection with
5,6,7 OK  Chzz  ►  23:49, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Casper Andreas

Hi. I know you're an experienced editor. It looks like you've added copyrighted material in the Casper Andreas article. It comes from the bio on his website. Based on the edit summary, it looks like you were trying to help User:Adambentley by adding the material because of some problem he was having. If so, it would be appropriate to inform this new user that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material. Could you explain what's happening? Thanks! -- Whpq (talk) 21:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, right, didn't notice it was copied - yes, I was trying to help them (via IRC) because they couldn't add the info due to false edit-filter hits due to certain dodgy words in the film titles etc. The easiest "norules" answer to which seemed to be for me to add it myself.
I will certainly advise why it was removed; thanks.  Chzz  ►  22:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A QUESTION :)

Just a question, but are you the creator of Wikipedia? Also, I was wondering why my computer won't connect to the chat place for Wikipedia :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zurgle99 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  1. No, I'm not, see Wikipedia.
  2. I'm sorry it won't connect; there are various reasons why IRC may be blocked on your computer. Usually it is caused by firewalls or filtering software, that kind of thing.  Chzz  ►  22:08, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adopt Me

Hey thanks a ton for helping me get through that hassle!!!! Hopefully whoever did this will not let it happen again. But I was interested in the wiki adoption are you familiar with this? --Cjones132002 (talk) 02:35, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm familiar with it; I don't go in for the formal 'adoption' thing, but, there are lots of people who I've helped out, who regularly ask me stuff, and I have no problems with that at all...I just don't bother with calling it 'adoption'. Please feel free to ask me anything you like, at any time, and I'll answer as soon as I can. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  02:42, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You

Thank you for your help and your advice. I know that the article that i submitted, Unplaced in APG II was unusually hard to deal with. 128.171.106.205 (talk) 07:35, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No trouble at all; if you need more help with it (or anything else), just give me a shout here. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  07:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He-l-en1959

    • Hi! Good day (or anything else)! Why didn't you write to me so long? I succeeded in making the "List of TF Armada episodes" like a table. I hope to finish this job very soon at last (thanks to your advices). I'll be glad to help you in turn if you once need my help User:He-l-en1959--Mirabella Star 13:54, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I did reply to your last message (23 Sep, only a week ago) here only about 2 hours after you left it - but perhaps I forgot to notify you that I'd replied? Sorry about that.
Glad to hear things are going OK. And yes, as always, ask for help if you need it.  Chzz  ►  14:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, i didn't see the message you tell about. But you can be sure that your advices and messages are of great importance for me. Can I consider you to be my friend as well as I am your friend? (Excuse my poor English…) User:He-l-en1959--Mirabella Star 14:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I try to be friendly with all Wikipedians.- but remember that Wikipedia is not a social networking site. You might want to join one of the IRC channels, like #wikipedia-en - people chat there, although we do try to stick to the topic of Wikipedia. There are plenty of other websites designed for socializing :-)  Chzz  ►  14:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

Hi Chzz,

Hope you are ok.

I am still working on capitalization, especially in the pages on religion. Manual of Style states the movements should not be capitalzed. I am trying to correct "Word of Faith" movement to "Word of faith" but I need an editor to change to article name. Please check it and let me know. Thanks. R/T-รัก-ไทย (talk) 15:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if it should be caps of not - perhaps it counts as a proper noun, if it is a registered org, etc. I had a quick look on Google [32] and it does seem to be mostly capitalized. But anyway - if you wish to change the title, you can do so by clicking move at the top of the page, and putting in the new name. If you decide to do that, I suggest that you put in the edit summary "[[WP:BRD]] - see talk page", and then make a section on the talk page explaining your reason (with a link to the appropriate policy) - if someone disagrees with your change, then discuss it on the talk page.
Best wishes,  Chzz  ►  16:19, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article Creation Request for In My Rosary

I think the band is notable (not to mention old) enough to have an article. Here are some sources:

http://www.public-republic.net/artist-of-the-week-in-my-rosary.php (Artist of the Week interview in an online zine) http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=4371_0_2_0_C (News release in a major dark music magazine) http://www.inmyrosary.de/discography/reviews/1.php (A whole slew of reviews for their most recent album, with links to the original sites)

On top of that, the band was already notable enough to have a German Wikipedia article:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_My_Rosary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.157.123.101 (talk) 15:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks, I'll add those to the proposed article, and try to work on it a bit ASAP.  Chzz  ►  18:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ref. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/In My Rosary  Chzz  ►  19:46, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia Marble Company

Georgia Marble Company  Chzz  ►  19:48, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of PROD from Bo Crese

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Try, try, try again (Troutman article)

Chzz,

Okay, I deleted the language about "professional," the Resume Place being a small, woman-owned business, and about Troutman popularizing the Federal Resume format in the 1990s. If I can dig up better references in the future, I'll post them.

The only outstanding complaint you had other than the above was about online references to Troutman's books (#4 in our last exchange). Her books are referenced in footnotes 3 and 4.

If that's ok, can we go live with the article?

Thanks, --Burkeguy 22:05, 1 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burkeguy (talk • contribs)

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Thanks

Þjóðólfr (talk) 00:25, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ironic Addition! Þjóðólfr (talk) 01:29, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of PROD from Be At TV

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User:Hersfold/ArbGuide

User:Hersfold/ArbGuide

the equationa are seems to be wrong all the editors need to be sent to primery schools

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